After long waiting bench extension has been approved
just want to know how many of you took or will take any course praparaton and if yes which course ucla duggan...
or just practicing yourself
any recommendation....????

The Ucla, Duggan Courses Are Quite Helpful.

Hi Yasi,

I am not sure which one is better because I will take a review for the first time, but my decision was based on the fact that Duggans course will be longer than UCLA. I know it is not the best way to choose, but I believe that having more time with the instructors will help me more.
I made my decision yesterday. ;) Hope it is the right one.

did ucla mention anything yet regarding the revisions provided..i sent them an email, but no reply..

Yes UCLA has a 6.5 days review, check on the website.

Anyone from LA planning to take Bench exams? Anyone planning to join Duggan's at Costa Mesa?Please email me.

I was just wondering if there are ppl in the bay area gearing up for the RT exam.

here is an FYI for all those who are interested in taking a prep course at uop... this is funny guys but I just called them and they did not know that the RT Exam had been reinstated!!

plus i tried calling the Dental board and guess what... the system exits itself and you cannot even leave a message with them, let alone talk to a representative... how bizzarre is that?!! :meanie:

how do I find out if they have kept my information fromt he last time I sent in my application???

stefanels,
try extension 2339 or just press0 after the initial recorded message plays,you'll get the operator.And of course,call between the working hours of 8 a.m to 12 and 1p.m to 5.Good luck.

hi,
the DBC site says that we need to send them our NDB scores.does this mean we can send them photocopies or do they want originals?? also WHEN do we start sending them out, is anytime before 12th july ok??
anyone with any info, please help.
thanx in advance.

They want a notarised photocopy of you score before the deadline specified. This is what I was told.Hope it helps.

Hi,
You won't be needing a notarization of the score card photocopies.Just send them the Xerox copies of your mark sheets before July.That will do.

after long waiting bench extension has been approved
just want to know how many of you took or will take any course praparaton and if yes which course ucla duggan...
or just practicing yourself
any recommendation....????


I had taken the bench exam course @ duggan's.It was very helpful.There are condensed courses @ duggan's too,if u think its hard to go back and forth.

good luck,
payal
If interested in buying materials for part 3 & 4,contact me by email at
dr_payal@hotmail.com

hi
i haven't sent any application for bench test before and there isn't any information about this on cdb website
i want to know is there anyone who had this or know how to gain this
or at least tell me about its requirements (i mean transcript ,any special person to sign or something like that)
thank you

you can check it out at www.dbc.ca.gov. & call them up for new applicant form for part-3. you need to sign it by your college dean from your country.

I called the Board today and talked with someone on extension #2326 She told me that WE MUST SEND the original report. She asked me to make a copie for myself and send the original report to them.
So I took a copie of my report and also will ask for a new (original)report from ADA ( $10 cost)just in case.

hmm ok, coz the set of rules in the business n profession code reads that they want us to send them a copy of our score card.Man, these people are really out to confuse us!! :mad: I just wish they(DBC) would be a little more consistent with what they want and put it up on their site in detailed words:(

Hi all,

I called for the second time and talked with another person and he said the same thing " Send the original report".
Have anybody else tried to contact them?

hi chuchuca
didn't you ask ehe ADA to send your score part 2 to California dental board when you applied for exam in Dec
just because i did that and i think it's ok with cdb (i just called them and told my situation)

hi asha;'
i live inn northwest of LA in the sanfernando valley and going to take the bench

Hi Kosha,
Have you joined Duggan's?

ya i am finishing on 12th may

can anyone tell me whats duggans website..or any contacting information

hi web site is www.duggandds.com....u shall get rest of all the necesary info there






can anyone tell me whats duggans website..or any contacting information

Hi Kosha,
Where did you buy all the instruments and how much did it cost you? Do you know anyone who is planning to sell their instruments? Do you have any idea when the exams will be? And how was Duggan's coaching classes?

Have they set a date for the bench exam yet ?

Hi Henna,
I just checked the DBC website..No news on the exam schedule...
Are you giving your bench exams this time? Where did you buy ur instruments from?

No, I am not taking the bench exam. I was just curious.
If you guys want a temporary sticky to discuss the bench exam I'll be glad to merge all the bench exam threads and place it as a sticky.

That would be great!!

Alright ! :)

hi asha ;
i bought my instrumnets from a friend .....but duggan aslo sells them theyr at a resonable price.. the class are really good ....and ya if u want to buy second hand instrument .....then i am going to class on wed i shall get numbers for u .....

hi henna

the frist exam is likely to be held in nov 2004 . they r planning to have only opne exam this year

Hi Kosha,
Thank you so much..Kindly get me the numbers if you can, for buying the second hand instruments.It will be of great help to me..Thanks once again.

hey guys,,


I should send my original scores of NBDE to the following address

Dental Board of California
1432 Howe Ave., Ste. 85-B
Sacramento, CA 95825
(916) 263-2300

before July 12, just my scores in an empty envelope, right? correct me please, and thanks in advance,

Hi,
Send them the copy of your Step 1 and 2 mark sheets in an empty envelope.The address you mentioned is the right one..Good luck!!

Hi Theone,

the address is right, but call them first and ask about to send a COPY, because I was informed that I was supposed to send the ORIGINAL.
Let us know what they say.

Anyone who had their application returned last year ? Are we supposed to mail our scores too considering they were returned to us although DBC has them on file?

must we submit US mailing address just now or later with our application form?
because right now i am in canada

Hi ,
I called the DBC today to ask them to send me an application for RT exam and told them that I had already sent my score card copy..But they told me that I have to send the originals only...So,Chuchuca is right....Send your originals to DBC.They will send it back to you with the application form.

hi yassi,
can u plz tell me abt new extention of bench test.its somthing weird on the dental board of california's site, it says u need to pass part 2 before dec 2003 to appear for bench test. is it for 2004 bench test or is this eligibility for bench test till 2008?
and can u plz mail me duddan's courses contact number too? i 'll really appretiate it?waiting for ur reply.
harjind.
After long waiting bench extension has been approved
just want to know how many of you took or will take any course praparaton and if yes which course ucla duggan...
or just practicing yourself
any recommendation....????

Anyone who had their application returned last year ? Are we supposed to mail our scores too considering they were returned to us although DBC has them on file?

i called them a few weeks ago bec. I also had my application returned last year and they said I don't need to submit my scores it's in the system. best to call them if you like and so I also have a double confirmation.

mommyr
did you give them your mailing address in canada

yes in my returned application but I placed a U.S. address for the mailing address

i called them a few weeks ago bec. I also had my application returned last year and they said I don't need to submit my scores it's in the system. best to call them if you like and so I also have a double confirmation.
I called them and wrote to them and the reply was that i need to send the original score report preferably by certified mail, after making a copy for myself.This may be attached with the old application(which was returned) when we do submit the application. No need to fill out a new application.

Hi people,

I have good and bad news about the bench.
I went to Duggan's class today and we were informed that DBC will not change the procedure until the next examination which will be NOVEMBER 19, 2004 at USC :) , but the changes will happen eventually. They will change the wax pattern to a composite restoration on ivorine tooth.
Also, he said that by August, probably middle of the month, we will be inform on which year we will be able to sit for the bench exam. The selection will be at random :scared: , so good luck to all of us :p
The DBC will update the website anytime this week, so let's keep looking

Also, he said that by August, probably middle of the month, we will be inform on which year we will be able to sit for the bench exam.
Which year ????!!!!!! :wow: :wow:
They are being very unreasonable. I guess this means that irrespective of which year you are allowed to take the exam, yr 2008 will be the last and so the number of attempts a candidate is allowed can't be evenly distributed.
Good Luck to everyone, hope you all get selected for this year. :thumbup:

You are right Henna, lets pray...But as you signature say "I don't believe in miracle. I rely on them" :D

Does anyone know if the California board has started accepting applications for the Bench exam from applicants who have never applied to them. I have already sent in the original NDBE score report to them but am yet to hear from them. Please provide any info as to what next I am supposed to do.

could anyone pls tell me what is d cost of joinin Duggans classes?

check out the website.....www.duggandds.com.......u will get all the req info.

thanx i shall just check it out :)

Hi ..

ive noticed that a lot of people have been sending their applications in for the bench exam .. i havent seen any dates posted on the dbc website .. am i missing out on information ?? have the application deadlines been posted somewhere yet ??

or are people just talking about first-time applicants just sending proof of their qualification in ?

i am a re-taking the examination and it would really help if someone can help me out with the application ( and re-application) deadline dates ..

thanks a lot

Hi, I'm from TX too. We're on the same page. I'm also awaiting schedule for the bench exam. If you have previously taken the bench all you need to do is to wait for the schedule of the exam, and then submit your re-application. Where are you in Texas?

Hi ..

ive noticed that a lot of people have been sending their applications in for the bench exam .. i havent seen any dates posted on the dbc website .. am i missing out on information ?? have the application deadlines been posted somewhere yet ??

or are people just talking about first-time applicants just sending proof of their qualification in ?

i am a re-taking the examination and it would really help if someone can help me out with the application ( and re-application) deadline dates ..

thanks a lot

hi ,
does anyone have a rough idea as to how many new and old applicants are waiting for bench.

also the bill says that each eligible candidate will be given no more than 4 attempts to pass bench ....does that mean the attempts can be less than 4 ?

i somehow think that it may not be possible to give 4 attempts to all candidates . can dbc just end the exam in 2008 ,without giving all the attempts to the candidates.

not that we will need all the attempts ,but if it is so ,dbc will have to conduct many exams each year to make sure that all of us get a fair chance.

Hello folks!,
Since u guys r in California , I think u guys will definitely have an answer for my query!

So, after this bench exam & when u get ur license to practice -what r ur chances in other states, I mean when you want to move to other states and practice after how many years in California, u can do that? :confused:

Pls throw some light! :)

DBC just posted the schedule for the next bench exam, Nov. 19-21, filing period is to be determined! :eek:

hi!
I do have the same doubt that after how many years can we practice in other states after passing bench test.

Hello, For part 1 and 2 score report does board want us directly to send them ,or it is ok if i tell ADA and then they will send them my original score report?
as i did in this way but now somebody saying that we need to do registerd mail so now i am confused.can anyone guide me in this.

You mihgt have to check as reciprocity only applies to US or canadian grads.Be sure about it and even if you dont have any luck with it,you will still do fine in cali.

Here's a thought... once you get your license what rules and regulations apply to to you ?

.. are there any time limits after which you need to update your license by taking a new set of licensure exams?
... is there an annual number of continuing education courses that one might have to take?
... can you keep your license even if you're unable to practise for sometime?

Hi,

I have enrolled in colton classes starting from 7th July.If somebody is enrolled in same class pl let me know.I am travelling from bay area.

hello guys here,

I know i am out of tract but since all of you here are taking or have already taken the Bench exam, i am thinking that i will have a better response to my request: Anybody who has nbde part 2 dental decks for sale..pls pm me. thnx i plan to take part2 this july and afterwhich, will consider taking again part 1 again to attempt for a better score. Everybody says i need to improve my scores to be competitive for school admission.

Goodluck to all of you here!!!

hi everyone ,
was going through SDN after long .....lots of doubts !!!!
first of all y do we need to send the part 1 score report ?? the part 2 report will have part 1 scores as well ????
do we need to post our application form for bench exam right now ??? cause there isnt anything like that mentioned in the DBC website !!!!!!!
what r the chances of any first time applicant getting a chance in nov exam ?? & when will we get to know the future exam dates ??? so that we can think about other things mean while !!!
any info would be appreciated .... thanks in advance .

hey guys,
this is really important.A friend of mine sent in his original score card(part1 and 2) to dbc. and dbc has sent it back to him. he was a first timer and dbc did not have any previous record of his.. now i find this confusing because i too sent my score card to dbc at the same time and my situation is the same as his,as in i too was sending dbc my info for the first time.. so i wanted to know if their is anyone else who has sent their score cards to dbc and already got them back? please help!!! and the other info that i have is that this nov exam priority will be given to old applicants and hence forth it will be 50% of old applicants and 50% new applicants. if anyone else has any other info please let us know.

hey hi sonia....i'm ****al from sacramento..i guess we met during the u.o.p. interviews..yeah even i have sent in my original score reports thru the ada to the dbc....have not got them back as yet.and thats what most of my freinds have done but none have recieved it back...we are all first timers.so i really dont know why did your freind get it back..has yr freinds score card been sent back by the dbc....or it never reached the dbc and got returned to him....

Guys, do any of u know how many days does ada take exactly to send in the score reports to schools, after we request them? :confused:

Atleast a week :)

Atleast a week :)

U mean the reports will reach school in a week!!!!!?

hey,
the ada has written on their website that it may take 3 weeks to process ur request.it is possible that they might be able to send it earlier than that.....so in case it is possible donot delay sending the request.....so that even if it does take 3 weeks it does not affect ur application

hi, i`ve sent my part 1 & 2 score reports to dbc through ADA.but i`m not sure whether they have got them or not. I tried to contact dbc by phone & e-mail, but didn`t get any responce. shall i send my own original reports directly to dbc now? can anyone guide me in tis regard? thanks. :)

hey hi....yeah even i've sent my score reports thru ada....what i did was called up the ada and asked them wether they have sent the scores to dbc and on which date.....cuz even i did not get any response from dbc....you can do the same to confirm....

thanks docsps, i think thats what we can do.thanks again :)

Does any body know, how to get application forms for bench test. shall i call them and ask to send me forms or is there any other way out? please let me know.:)

hey docsps,
yeah i was there at uop, and i do remember meeting someone from sacramento..anyways thanks for the response. my friends score card was sent back to him by dbc itself..its all very confusing. hey maybe i am just being paranoid,but i was also thinking of something else...you know we sent our scores to dbc through ada, but if u recall in our part 2 applications we had an option of our scores being sent to any 3 boards in the US... so all students who give their boards in california will obviously want their scores to be sent to dbc and plus few others from other states may also opt for california board..so dbc has received our scores twice once when we appeared for part2 and now when we again requested ada to send them our scores...so my question is how will dbc diffrentiate as to which students are interested in taking the bench exam..becuase they receive many scores from ada....i hope i am making sense to you...so i was thinking just for precaution should we also send our original score report which we have with us..we have very little time left...let me know what you guys think...

hey hi sonia....i understand your concern....and even i was thinking the same ,but then after speaking to a couple of friends i felt there's no need to send another copy again to the dbc....they'll unnecessarily get all the more confused if we keep on sending them score reports.and then when we'll send in the application forms they'll automatically come to know who all are applying for the bench..so i guess its fine if we dont send our score cards now....tht's what i feel...may be i'm even wrong ...i dono...

hello there,
i was out of the country for a while but before i left i was told and read tht i was suppsed to send a copy of my scores to the dbc...but now i just saw tht most of u sent the original from ada......my scores havent come bac...wht should i do now...is it too late....was i supposed to send it thru ada???

please advise!!!

hey shaya,
I think u better send ur original part2 score report to dbc bcoz this is what i read in their website.

I posted before and I will say again " I called DBC and was informed to send the original report even if I had ask ada to send them one."

If you not sure and have any question, please call dbc, do not keep guessing, because time is running out and July12 is right there on the corner. That's my advice. :)

Hi Guys and Gals

I am wondering if course at Duggan Institute would be more than enough to clear the RT exam. Its long time I have been practising crown preps. I thought of getting some work done at dental school where I am presently doing my Masters in non clinical field then move on to Duggans. How much time and preparation do you think it will be enough to clear the boards. Imagine starting from scratch here in US.

Let me know

Thanks

Vennai

hi, vennai i think the duggan`s 3 month course is what all u need to clear bench test.
rest it`s upto u , what u think is best for u. all the best.

hi, i`m taking up duggan`s bench course starting on 7th july at colton. so for all these 3 months i`ll stay in colton. Is there anybody interested in becoming my room mate, so that we can discuss and prepare for bench test together.
Please let me know. :cool:

Hi, I need help out here! Iam confused that....whether we have to send our NBDE scores to DBC by July 12th if we are applying for the RT exam this year or even if we plan to take exam any time until 2008???? please help me with ur replies!
I also read in the forum that some have sent original NBDE score reports which they have with them personally to DBC . But when I called ADA and enquired about it, they said that we should not send the original score reports which we have with us to any body and they will not be sent to us again. is that true?? though I have the only option to send the score cards with me, I thought it's better to take an advice from u guys...

thanks
pallavi

Dear Pallavi:

AB 1467 stipulates that all candidates must submit their original scores 90 days after the it is signed into law, that is, by July 12. Go ahead and submit yours ASAP if have not done so. Don't hang on to the original report card. It has no personal use. If you want another one, you can always ask the ADA and pay $10 for another copy. You might have been misinformed by the person you talked to at the ADA. They just sent me another copy of my report card! I all had to do was ask in writing, and pay the required fee. Good luck.

Ivorinedust.

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Apolonia, relieve my toothache.

Hi Pallavi,

It has been a while since I posted anything here and I have missed the interaction with all of you.

I called the California Dental Board about exactly what needs to be sent in before July 12, 2004. You must send in the original score report for your NBDE results. You do not need to have the ADA send a sealed copy of the score report. I challenged the person that I spoke with on the phone and said that the information that the Dental Board posted on their website did not stipulate that an original score report needed to be sent in. The person said that "Dental Board management decided that an original score report must be sent in." I didn't argue with the person, but this seemed to me to be totally unfair to provide inadequate and incomplete information on an official state website. Further, I was told to send the score report via return receipt mail. It sounded like the Dental Board has a huge stack of score reports sitting on some desk somewhere within their offices and there is always the chance that they will misplace a score report. You may need the return receipt as proof that you actually sent in the report within the scheduled deadline.

Below is a sample cover letter to send along with your score report:


July 2, 2004


Dental Board of California
1432 Howe Ave., Ste. 85-B
Sacramento, CA 95825


Re: Submission of National Dental Board Scores Parts I and II of Adriana del Pilar Clark For Purposes of Eligibility for the Restorative Technique Examination


Dear Sir or Madam,


Please find attached a copy of my scores for the National Dental Board Examinations Parts I and II. I am sending these score reports in order to be eligible to sit for the California Restorative Technique Examination. I am sending these documents via certified mail in order to ensure their delivery to, and acceptance by, the Dental Board of California.

If these documents are not adequate to establish eligibility for the Restorative Technique Examination, please contact me immediately at adryclark@hotmail.com or at my home phone number at 415 XXX XXXX. My mailing address is as follows:

Adriana Clark
XXXX XXXX XXXX
San Francisco, CA 94121

Thank you for your consideration in this matter.


Sincerely,


Adriana del Pilar Clark


If anyone has any questions or concerns about this issue, please don't hesitate to write me. You can send an Express Mail letter to the Dental Board and it will get to the Board within one day's time. Just be sure to also send the Express Mail letter with a return receipt card attached to the envelope. Ask the postal clerk for assistance if you are unsure of how to do it.


Scott

Thanks guys! I appreciate your replies so soon. Really I could decide about sending the scores in time. Infact I mailed the originals right away after reading ur posts..great help!

thanks
pallavi

can someone in here please PM the answers to the 2000 exam?

Hi Folks,

I'm preparing for part I in December 2004. Will I still have time to apply for the CA RT exam? I'm a foreign trained dentist trying to get lincensure without doing the 2-yr advanced program.

Appreciate your advice.

Thanks.

i have already sent dbc the score card through ada for part1 and 2. should i send the original one too. will they not get confused ......it seems that they already have a lot of cards to handle .

is the card sent from ada not as good as the original ....plus we have to attach the original on the application too .what will we attach there if we send the original........ :confused:

I asked the same question to the Dental Board and the answer was a photocopy of your score card may be attached to your application. But I guess they will clarify everything once they post the application date on the website

in that Question no 7 is confusing
it says what to submit for application.

7. What do I need to submit to the Board once the application deadline is
established?
Eligible candidates must submit the following:
? Completed Restorative Technique Application
? Fees - $556.00 for first time applicant
? Fees - $325.00 for re-examination applicants
? 2 Fingerprint cards ? Non California Residents
? LiveScan Fingerprint application ? California Residents only
? Original Diploma and a copy of the Diploma (original diploma will be returned)
? Certification of Diploma Form
? Original Transcript of the Academic and Clinical Dental School Record,
and a copy of the transcript of the academic record.
? Certification of Translation Form

Do re-examinaton students also have to submit Certification of diploma form & Certification of Translation form.
& what about livescan fingerprint appication.

please any re-examiner has any idea please help here.

ivshah
waiting for reply.

Where did you find this update? I could not find. :(

its on homepage of www.dbc.ca.gov

The Board has moved the next RT Exam a week early from Nov. 19-21 to Nov 13-14. I don't think this matters much for now, but is it going to be a two-day affair instead of three(Friday being the registration day?)?

Ivorinedust

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Apolonia, relieve my toothache!

heyy, as was discussed in this thread a while back, i sent my original score card to dbc n NOW they have posted the faq`s on their site which sez that we shouldnt send them the original scores as yet.But acc to so many people within this thread, we shouldve sent our originals to them already(as i have done too!!).so can please someone tell me what am i supposed to do now?what do i attach to the application???since i no longer have my original score card!!!! i am really nervous about this........ pl help.

hey there everyone,
i hav a question. well there is no guarantee tht we will get a chance to giv the bench exam this year. so wht if someone tries for the Idp program too as a second option but wants to giv their part 1 again to improve their scores. will tht make the person ineligible to apply for the bench as the new scores wil say exam given in 2004? (first time gav part 1 in 2000 and cleared all subjects)

hi!
As for my knowledge,if u give part-1 again they will cancle your prevoius part-1 score. it is not like toefl that u can give as many time as possible & still u can send out ur best score of those.So DBC may not cosider it. but its wise to ask DBC.

hey there everyone,
i hav a question. well there is no guarantee tht we will get a chance to giv the bench exam this year. so wht if someone tries for the Idp program too as a second option but wants to giv their part 1 again to improve their scores. will tht make the person ineligible to apply for the bench as the new scores wil say exam given in 2004? (first time gav part 1 in 2000 and cleared all subjects)


hi

i donot seetheneed to infrom the dbc about yr new score.. they will never come to know unless u tell them ......and u have already send yr scores to them proving yr eligibilty ...and in the future u donot have to send them ( if i get it right ) .....
correct me if i am wrong

Exam in November and they haven't announced the enrollment period. And if the past is any indication they won't tell you whether you are admitted or not until a month beforehand. So for the next half year our lives are on hold. Can't plan anything .... can't travel .... practice everyday to sharpen our skill yet not knowing if the effort will be for naught, especially with the change in format next year :mad:

We are being treated like second class citizen and we should voice our displeasure.

- tengu

This has been beaten to death in another thread, and I don't mean to be a grammar policeman .... BUT

Teachers give exams, students take them.

and while I am at it

It is not fashionable to use "ur", "u", "plz", "r" .....

...don't mean to be a grammar policeman .... BUT Teachers give exams, students take them...


I agree. But I guess it'd be easier to spot someone who wasn't dentally trained in the Western Hemisphere? Still, I'm glad that the common language on this forum is English. I guess Spanish would be tied second to any one of the Indian languages? I'd think someone may have done a poll on the most popular native language in SDN Dental International forum? That'd be interesting to see!

Can you tell me how to get all the stuff for the bench( to practice at home)

Hi shaya/ivshah/Kosha
I spoke with some one in the examination section of Dental board of california. I asked her if I would lose my eligibility for bench exam if I was to take part 1 again and she said I would ( I have no idea as to how they can get to know that I retook the exam though). She also told me it would be wise to wait untill I finish bench exam if not part 4. anyway u should talk to them before proceeding.

i know, i called them too and they said i would be ineligible if i gav my part 1 again...:(........does the national board let the state board ppl know when we get our scores?? there must be someway they can find out eventually....like maybe they'll put it on the application asking when was the lst time u took the part 1 and then wht???
im totoally confused....i dont think my current part 1 score wil get me in ...(ive tried last year too)....and idon tknow when the bench wil happen.....but i dont want to giv up my chance of taking the bench forever either cause u neve rknow if you'll get accepted to school or not!!

hi, does anybody know , how to get finger print cards (if u r not a california resident) for bench exam? please let me know about this thing.

Go to MAILBOXES ETC. I belive that's the name of the postal/office service place where they are also authorized to do the fingerprinting. That's where I had mine done but I was in california at that time. I think you can also go to a police station bec. what's important I think is that whoever is doing the fingerprinting must know what they're doing and had some form of training in proper fingerprinting. You can call also call the Board and ask them.

I read your question again and I realized I answered you incorrectly. The finger print cards will come with the application packet provided by the Board. At this time, they are not giving out any I think call them or wait for further notice.

does re-examiner also has to submit fingerprinting?

Hi,
I had also gone thru the same confusion. But I contacted people in Dental Board and Senator's office dealing with Bench and got infromation from a very senior Dental Board Officer that as long as you meet the criteria ( of passing Part 1 and 2 before dec 2003) you are eligible for bench. Even if you retake part 1 they don't care as long as you don't send them the new scrore.
I have just taken my part 1 again ( CBT) and now waiting for its results and Bench exam.
good luck!

i know, i called them too and they said i would be ineligible if i gav my part 1 again...:(........does the national board let the state board ppl know when we get our scores?? there must be someway they can find out eventually....like maybe they'll put it on the application asking when was the lst time u took the part 1 and then wht???
im totoally confused....i dont think my current part 1 score wil get me in ...(ive tried last year too)....and idon tknow when the bench wil happen.....but i dont want to giv up my chance of taking the bench forever either cause u neve rknow if you'll get accepted to school or not!!

Does anyone know if there is a training course at Uop or UCSF? I live in the bay area and will be hard to take the Duggan course

UOP but a friend who went there said it's not very good.

Hi ! I am a new user , interesting forum . I have a question for ALL YOU GUYS . Are the Californian boards still open for international dentists , I man can I still take part 1 , NDBE part 2 , Bench 1 and Bench 2.

Looking forward to hear from you,


Zeb

People:

The DBC has posted the reference numbers of the candidates eligible for the Bench exam. <www.dbc.ca.gov> click on the link "reference numbers". Thanks.

Ivorinedust
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Apolonia, relieve my toothache!

I went all the page upside down locking for the link "reference numbers" and nothing, please let me know how and where from the Home Page I could find it...Thanks in advance...

Vickdent:

The link is in the DBC homepage, right smack under the Big Red Announcement that says the date of the November exam has been changed to Nov. 13-14. You won't miss it. You must have Acrobat Reader installed in your computer to be able to see the list, though.

Ivorinedust

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Apolonia, relieve my toothache!

my goodness .... there are 1500 names on that list. How long will we have to wait for a spot?!! And will we ever get a second chance?

- tengu

hi, does anybody know , how to get finger print cards (if u r not a california resident) for bench exam? please let me know about this thing.

I wrote an email to the DBC requesting for two finger print cards and a new application form. I wrote them twice and had everything sent to a US based address. As of writing, i have only received the finger print cards. Hope this helps... Does anyone have any idea whether the list of application requirements on the FAQ article applies to re-examinees, or would resending your old application suffice? help!! really confused... :confused:

Ivorinedust,
Thanks for the replay, I found it in another computer with adobe. Let's wait, pray and leave it on God's hand to get our chance soon...

Hey all,,

1500 eligeble candidates.
exam to be held 3 times a year,
in each exam 150 candidates,
till 2008
9 exams*150= 1350 candidates,, I guess everyone has less than 1 trial, unless there is a mistake in my calcualations

please correct me ,,

hey all,
ya there are around 1500 candidates now, but the reference no. list is incomplete!! :eek: so there are gonna be more candidates soon,as soon as dbc finishes putting up the list in totality. God help us all!!!

hey theone ,

dbc will take 250 candidates for each exam not 150...
so i think in 2 years all 1500+ candidates will get one chance .

i hope they increase the number of examinations conducted each year .
lets pray

People:

The DBC has posted the reference numbers of the candidates eligible for the Bench exam. <www.dbc.ca.gov> click on the link "reference numbers". Thanks.

Ivorinedust
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how do i know what reference number is mine? are the DBC mailing us these reference numbers?

Does anyone know if there is a training course at Uop or UCSF? I live in the bay area and will be hard to take the Duggan course
yes they offer courses at UOP but not at UCSF.

how do i know what reference number is mine? are the DBC mailing us these reference numbers?
Hi Stefanels,
Do you have a copy of your NDBE result? Your reference number is written on the top portion of that...

there are 250 examinees per exam i think...i'm a bit anxious bec. i haven't seen my reference no. yet, i called them yesterday and faxed proof of my timely submission of requirements and of course, they told me to just wait they're not done posting... :(

Hi Stefanels,
Do you have a copy of your NDBE result? Your reference number is written on the top portion of that...

Thanks... I found my reference number and they have it on the list as well :)
Now we just wait for the filing period to begin , right?

I had sent in my application last yr, but it was returned to me as the october exam never took place. I guess I'll have to wait and see if the same appliction will work this time or if I'll have to re do the whole fingerprinting etc.

am i the only one from the sdner who can't see me reference no. on the DBC website? :(

hey! that was just a typo error, i meant am i the only one whose reference no. is not posted on the DBC website? :(

I just saw my reference no. on the updated list today. :)

hey all ..

im going to be retaking the bench but dont see my ref # on the list ..i know they are not done posting all the ref #'s yet, but if anyone has called the board recently, did they tell u when they were going to update that list ?? ..

thanks in advance for any info on that .. and congratulations to all who are already on the list ..atleast thats a start ..

Hi evereybody ,
Is there anybody here who has taken the Restorative Exam and can explain a bit about it and tell me about the items they test you on? I'd appreciate any kind of information 'cause I have no idea about it.

Hi evereybody ,
Is there anybody here who has taken the Restorative Exam and can explain a bit about it and tell me about the items they test you on? I'd appreciate any kind of information 'cause I have no idea about it.

there is a bunch of information if you search the other threads on here .. however you can go to http://www.dbc.ca.gov/ and get the official information ..

as for preperation u have www.studydent.com , www.duggandds.com and ofcourse www.ucla.edu .. u might want to check with the others if any new bench training centers/courses are being offered ..

try clicking on this link to access the UCLA Bench training programs

http://uclasod.dent.ucla.edu/ContinuingEducation/index.asp?id=314

there is a bunch of information if you search the other threads on here .. however you can go to http://www.dbc.ca.gov/ and get the official information ..

as for preperation u have www.studydent.com , www.duggandds.com and ofcourse www.ucla.edu .. u might want to check with the others if any new bench training centers/courses are being offered ..
Thank you very much for your reply.

try clicking on this link to access the UCLA Bench training programs

http://uclasod.dent.ucla.edu/ContinuingEducation/index.asp?id=314
Thanks for your quick reply.

Hello everybody, :)
Can anyone tell me how to get any books, CDs, or any stuff for the Bench Exam (to practice at home) ?

hi everyone,
dbc has posted the filing deadline n instructions on its website. its 10th sept n we can start applying already since its not on a 1st come 1st served basis.
Pl check the website for all the details.
good luck!!

Do you know on what date they posted this update about filing applications? I saw it yesterday night (08/14/2004). I was wondering if they had posted this few days back?

i happened to see it just last evening, so im guessing they posted it just sometime last afternoon/evening 13th august.

Thanks dentobabe. The surpising thing is, its very difficult to get Oxford End Tab File Folder H210D. I tried other companies other than oxford, but invain. I searched all the local stores but no one carries this type of folder. Some did but it was letter size not legal size. What are you guys doing? Any input is appreciated.

ram,
I'm having difficulty getting the recommended size too. I wonder why they're making it so difficult for us. :rolleyes:

yep,

I think DBC always is very good at figuring out a way make it difficult. These people can easily win a olympic gold if there was some competition like this.

Anyway, any ideas guys, I think this product is available online easily, but it seems it takes few days to get to us.

Thanks dentobabe. The surpising thing is, its very difficult to get Oxford End Tab File Folder H210D. I tried other companies other than oxford, but invain. I searched all the local stores but no one carries this type of folder. Some did but it was letter size not legal size. What are you guys doing? Any input is appreciated.


I am in Mississauga, Canada and I went to 5 stores today but to no avail. Staples had the letter size too but not the legal size, I went to Grand and Toy and found it in their catalog. I am going to order it but the min. they can give me is 100 pcs. for $50.00 they said it will take 3-5 business days. I am going to order it right now if anyone wants to share with me let me know.

I was also wondering, my application was previously returned by DBC when I didn't get into last year's exams and I submitted my orginal report score card to them, so I was wondering if anyone called them already regarding what to attach to a returned application form if the original score card is with them already.

i am calling them on mon. but if anyone has any info. on this let me know

CDA really knows how to screw us up. Who makes this rule that the application must be in a specific kind of file folder - in this case the "Oxford End Tab File Folder H210D"? If my secretary pulls a similar trick she will hear an earfull, if not shown the pink slip.

What next .... do we have to buy them file cabinets too?

How hard is it for them to transfer our application from a mailing envelope into a folder?!! :mad: What are we paying the $250 application fee for? This job can be easily done by hiring a temp for 2 weeks! Instead they want 1500 applicants to go out and search for this specify kind of file folder - which I may add and others attest to, is VERY difficult to find. To add insult to injury it usually comes in a box of 100 so what are we going to do with the remaining 99?

I can not imagine them doing this to American students. They will sure receive hell. International students are the silent type, and take abuses laying down.

We should do something.

- tengu

We were united in fighting for the expansion of the RT exam, but we seem to have lost momentum in pressing CDB to hold more RT exams, and to conduct the application in a friendlier way. The latest "file folder" incident is just another episode how CDB treat foreign dentists as second class entities.

I call for others to join me in a writing campaign to CDB, the governor, state assembly members and state senators to rectify this situation. I will make appointments to see my district senator and assembly member, and see what they can do about this. The things I want CDB to improve are:

1) Hold more RT exam a year. At twice a year and 250 examinees per exam, it will take 3 years to give the ~1500 applicants ONE exam. The wait is TOO long. Since the exam will sunset in 2008, there isn't enough time for a second chance for everybody. CDB argues they don't have enough resources to hold more exams, however they have no problem holding 6 licensure exams a year. Currently there is no wait to get onto a licensure exam, but up to 3 years for the RT. This is another example of their discriminatory actions towards foreign trained dentists.

2) Establish a guideline on RT exam priority, and to give out a priority number. This way we can plan our lives, instead of waiting and preparing endlessly for the exam. Right now my wife does not know whether to apply for dental school, or wait up to three years for the RT exam. If she knows she will not get into the November exam, she will make a long overdued trip with our new born baby home. Instead she is practicing everyday in the garage, hoping for a 1 in 6 chance she will be admitted to the RT exam this November.

3) Annouce who are in the exam two months ahead. Not 4 to 6 weeks. This way we can practice more effectively.

4) Get rid of this kind of "file folder" bullsh?t.

Remember only the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

- tengu

I just filed an anonymous complain to California Department of Consumer Affairs. They oversee the CDB. I ask others to file similar complaints. Their web link is

https://www.dca.ca.gov/dca/secure/on-line-complaint.html

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California Dental Board requires all Restorative Examination applicants to file their application inside a "Oxford End Tab File Folder H210D".

Please see

http://www.dbc.ca.gov/pdf/rt_ref_number_updated_for_rt_exam3.pdf

I understand this will make THEIR job easier. However they have not considered the undue burden put on the ~1500 applicants. The specific "Oxford End Tab File Folder H210D" is very hard to find. I went to Kinko, Office Depot and Target today and were unable to find them. Other people have also expressed great difficulties finding those folders. I can only find them online. It takes more than three days to order, and come in box of 100 (which I need only one).

On the other hand it is very easy for California Dental Board to transfer our application from a mailing envelope into a folder themselves. We pay $500 for the examination, in which $250 is the application fee. The application fee is to cover the administrative cost and CDB should not shift this burden to the applicants.

I have never known of any other incidents where examinees have to submit their application inside a specific type of file folder. In fact California Dental Board does not have similar policy in other examination applications such as the Licensure Examination. This policy is discriminatory against foreign trained dentist as they are the only one required to take this examination.

I sincerely hope you will help us to smooth out this unncessary bureacratic requirement.

best regards.

I also made a similar complain to CDB through their email (and cc to California Consumer Affairs so they know they have a wider audience).

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Dear California Dental Board,

I write to urge you to reverse the Restorative Technique Examination application requirement to use the "Oxford End Tab File Folder H210D".

This particular folder is very hard to find. I went to Kinko, Office Depot and Target today and were unable to find them. Other people have also expressed great difficulties finding those folders. I can only find them on the internet. It takes more than three days to order, and come in a box of 100 (which I need only one).

I understand using a specific kind of folder will make your job easier. However this will put undue burden on the ~1500 applicants. I will think the $250 application fee will cover administrative cost like these. Since you have no such requirements on other examination applications, including the Licensure Examination, I wish you will make the policy across the board.

best regards.

some may wonder why I will raise such a big fuss over the file folder H210D, when it can be solved by ordering it online for $30. First there is the principle (okay principles sometimes get people killed), and second, more practically, is to stop this discriminatory action towards foreign trained dentists. Consider this as the first skirmish, the bigger price is the number of RT exams per year.

Stop the immigrant mentality. Stand up for your right. This is America. Don't wait for others to change the world for you.

- tengu

hi mommyr,
i have pvt.messaged you, please check it n reply soon!

hi people,
tengu is right! that specific folder is really tough to come by, not that it cant be bought online, but it seems a total waste of money to spend 30 bucks and order 100 of those damned things and use only one.its not available as a single piece(as is the case with many office supplies) and i couldnt even locate it on the office depot website.
This is really ridiculous, why does it have to just be that one particular type n brand?? isnt something more easily available or commonly used more appropriate?I mean this is all being used as a means of harrasmenttowards us, starting from making us languish for months n years on end with no signs of exams n when they finally decide to do anything, theyre creating confusion and inconvenience on every step. :mad:

Can they refuse application for not using recommended folder ?
I don't think so.
However, I appreciate great mind, who got this idea. Wouldn't it be easier to ask 30 bucks extra as an application fee.
Well guys, we can keep rest of 99 folders to file all crazy requirements, our uncertain exam schedule, weird changes in bench pattern, and all 'periodic' updates.
Good Luck.

i believe tengu has raised very impt. points here. my husband has long suggested that we all hire a lawyer to protect our interests. The Board has it's own lawyers maybe we should have one good one too representing our interests, i'm sure most would be willing to pay a fee if we all accomplish our end results

i live in canada, perhaps one from california ought to start this like dentisthusband or tengu so if worse comes to worse a class action suit is more formidable then scattered individuals. we should all make a concerted effort to protect our interests.

who's willing to volunteer? what do you think?

Hi ! I am also having trouble finding the recommended folder. Please mail me the details on how I can buy some of the folders from you....
Also, I have signed up for the UCLA course in september. I am thinking of staying at the Holiday Inn [ there is a free shuttle service to the school and it is $100/ night for 2 queen sized beds in a room] Is any one interested in sharing a room with me?
[ preferably a female!!]

typo error... the Board has its own lawyers...

to those who sent me private messages, so that i don't need to email you individually, i'll just post here when i actually get the folders and then we'll go from there

to save people a trip to the various stores, I am going to post where you WILL NOT find the folder (will appreciate somebody to post where one CAN find them)

- Office Depot
- Office Max
- Staples
- Target
- Kinko

suffice to say that particular folder is EXTREMELY rare when the major office supply superstores don't carry them :mad: Most stores carry SMEAD instead of Oxford, and usually in the letter size only.

I called dbc today and they told me that a similar folder is fine and that the folder can be from any other company as long as it is comparable to the required folder.I was told that this would be posted on the website by thursday.

just wanted to ask if all the eligible candidates are required to submit appplication for bench on the sept 10,2004 deadline even if one wishes to be tested next year.
thank you

lamdent,
everyone eligible doesnt necessarily have to submit their applications,but im guessing everyone will(unless ur not at all prepared for the test)
I was just going through the FAQ page on the DBC website n this qs is similar to what u asked, read on:
Q.. What if i do not apply for the exam in november?
Ans:If u do not apply for the exam in november a filing deadline will be established in 2005 for the next exam.

so there, i think that should answer your doubt.
but take it from me, theres going to be hordes of people applying for the exam this time!
good luck.

i have the folders already H210D. if anyone wants one pls give me your address and money. i jsut don't know how much. a regular letter size mail from canada to the U.S. is 80 cents. A big folder in a hard envelope would probably be not more than $2. A brown for mailing the folder 1 plus cost of the folder.

Whoever wants one pls mail me 4.00 first and I'll mail it to you. My address is 205-2757 Battleford Rd., Mississauga, Ontario, Canada L5N3A8. I am not forcing anyone and this is not a business. But I don't know what I am going to do with 100 folders!

hi mommyr,
do u mean Canadian $ 4? i guess that means around 3 USD right? ok my cheque is on its way, thanks.

oh and one more thing, whom should i make the cheque out to? u can pvt msg me your name if u prefer that.thanks again.

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hi ,
i just talked to someone at dbc , and she said that other folders are ok as long as they are-- legal size, manilla ........etc (same in shape and size as oxford)and u use a 20 font to write on it .
some other company makes these kind of folders.....i hope they are easier to find.

Check out ebay. It may have some Oxford H210D folders.

ok everyone, check out the filing info on dbc website now, it says we can use any legal sized manila end tab folder, not necessarily the one they had mentioned earlier.
http://dbc.ca.gov/pdf/rt_ref_number_updated_for_rt_exam3.pdf

I sent the folder to Tengu today via Canada Post regular mail. I couldn't find an envelope big enough to put the folders without it bending so I bought a huge bubble wrap envelope and sent him 3 folders.

I underestimated the cost, postage alone was CAD5.05 as you'll see on the envelope due to the size and the bubble wrap envelope was 1.99 plus PST and GST (ontario tax is 15%) i spent a total of CAD 8.10 to send it and that was excluding cost of folders so its about USD 6.00

Again you don't have to get it from me bec. now we have the option of using another brand but for anyone needing an envelope just so you know the cost it's $6.00 USD. I sent it via regular mail so Tengu let me know when you receive it.

Did any one get any end tab folder in any store. if anyone pls let me know the name of the store.
thanks.

Dear friends and colleagues,
With regard to what everybody has written here, it seems that nobody is happy with the way CDB is carrying the RT exam for foreign trained dentists. And it really seems they are aware about what they are doing.

There are about 1500 applicants; they claim that foreign trained dentists have a chance to take the RT exam four times till 2008 but in practice they give the test 3 times a year and leave you no chance to have a second try !!! This is ridiculously unfair !!!

In America where we can express our minds and defend our rights freely, it wouldn't be wise to stay quiet. I personally would do anything in my ability to make those responsible listen to what we are saying. And I hope now that CDB has been told to give the tests till 2008, it's time we asked for fair exams. We are not second class dentists or applicants, we are asking for equal rights and we see no reason to be treated differently.

RezaKH

Hi,
I bought smead end tab folders. I have 99 of them left. If some one wants it then let me know.I live in salt lake city.

hello there,
can u giv me your address and thea mount of money i should send u?

Hey shaya,
check ur PM. I have given details there

Check your pm I just sent you an e-mail.

hi guys ;
i was a little confused. do i need to send in my part 1 &2 score report again .

To Wenbo Lu, I got your postal money order cheque and they said next time to write the name of the payee or else they won't honor it if it's left blank, apparently bec. of the postal code it was strangely more costly to send the mail to you than to dentobabe in the U.S.

Your total is CAD 11.3 and dentobabe's is CAD5.9 including enveoples. The mail to B.C. they said is about 6 days and surface U.S. mail is about 2 weeks or sooner.

I'd appreciate if you both can mail the difference.

To the rest of the SDNer's I am not selling anmymore folders. I'll just find some use for them I guess, I just find it time consuming to be going to the post office all the time and emailing the diff. postage prices. Also I just don't want to feel responsible if the postal office does not get it to you as quickly as hoped.

hi everyone,
the smead legal size folder , what DBC has mentioned in the website now is available in office depot.com may be in office depot stores too. the cost is $16.95. (in staples its $19.95). to buy it online, go to,
http://www.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do?level=SK&id=937649
bye.

hello all

the smead folders are also available online at this website

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:8DKYQC8u0egJ:www.officequarters.com/product.php/prod_id/2014989.html+smead+et2-150c&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

they are $13.97 per box plus tax and shipping ..havent seen them cheaper anywhere ..

if the link doesnt work go to www.officequarters.com and search for the folder with et2-150c

i agree they are a bunch of freaking high school graduate idiots making up ridiculous rules and regulations for a simple application procedure ..

their stupid legal size folder rule and imagine finding something large enough to send it in securely without damage and im sure ppl are going to send it via fedex or ups or certified mail ..

why the hell are we paying the application fee ?? so those stupid airhead secretaries can gossip the whole day and not work ?? are they so ****ing lazy or busy that they want us to write the ref. # in freaking "20 pitch font" and that too on a "label" ?? were they high on pot when they made the rules ?? if the *******s used even 2 % of their intellegence in making up the rules it would have been easier ..

and they are going to tell us after sep. 10 if we are eligible for the exam ?? and send the letter like 5 days before the exam like it happened to me back in aug. 2003 ??

****ing *******s .. if i ever get a chance ill stick it up to them someday


CDA really knows how to screw us up. Who makes this rule that the application must be in a specific kind of file folder - in this case the "Oxford End Tab File Folder H210D"? If my secretary pulls a similar trick she will hear an earfull, if not shown the pink slip.

What next .... do we have to buy them file cabinets too?

How hard is it for them to transfer our application from a mailing envelope into a folder?!! :mad: What are we paying the $250 application fee for? This job can be easily done by hiring a temp for 2 weeks! Instead they want 1500 applicants to go out and search for this specify kind of file folder - which I may add and others attest to, is VERY difficult to find. To add insult to injury it usually comes in a box of 100 so what are we going to do with the remaining 99?

I can not imagine them doing this to American students. They will sure receive hell. International students are the silent type, and take abuses laying down.

We should do something.

- tengu

Hi,
I bought smead end tab folders. I have 99 of them left. If some one wants it then let me know.I live in salt lake city.
Hi pkowe,
I need some folders, about 4.Pls do give me your address & the cost .I live in Southern California.
Thanks in advance.
KR

I have 50 folders if any one wants just reply . I live in Santa Clara CA.
Hi Ivshah,
I need some folders.I live in Southern California.Pls do let me know if you can mail them over to me (I shall give my address) & also the cost of each.
Thanks,
KR

Hi Bornlover
Check your PM.

Hi Pkowe,
Pls check your pm.



Hi Bornlover
Check your PM.

Hi Pkowe,
Pls check your pm.
how to private message?? tnx

Hi,
pls check your pm for mailing details.
kr


Hi Pkowe,
Pls check your pm.

I have 50 folders if any one wants just reply . I live in Santa Clara CA.
Hello,
I am interested in buying folder from you.
I live in sunnyvale.
if you don't mind give me your no and address. I can stop by some time to get the folder.Let me know the folder price.

Hello Friends,
I have participated in previous RT exam.Do I need to resumit fingers print and other documents as mentioned in FAQ no.7. Thanks!

Hello Friends,
I have participated in previous RT exam.Do I need to resumit fingers print and other documents as mentioned in FAQ no.7. Thanks!

Hello ahpin,
I too have taken previous RT exam. I think all we need to do is send in 1 sheet of application and 2 confirmation cards. If u think we need to send anythingelse let me know. Did u r reference number show up in the list ?
thanks
olety

Hello ahpin,
I too have taken previous RT exam. I think all we need to do is send in 1 sheet of application and 2 confirmation cards. If u think we need to send anythingelse let me know. Did u r reference number show up in the list ?
thanks
olety
Hi olety,
Good Morning! Thanks for telling confirmation cards.I will send the application that they returned to me.How do you think about it? My reference number is not showed up in the list yet. Thanks!
ahpin

i called dbc today and something new has come up now. they say that we(california residents) don't have to do live scan fingerprinting now.

the fees and the fingerprinting should be sent when ur name is announced for the exam.

call dbc @916-263-2300 and press extention 2340 to listen to the message.
-- they should have updated this on the website. :mad:

Anyone knows whne the DBC will let people know if you are in the exam or not? it is not another 2 weeks prior to the exam, I hope! :eek:

-- they should have updated this on the website. :mad:
Update? Fat chance. This link

http://www.dbc.ca.gov/rtsched.html

still states the RT exam filing period is TBD.

My wife already did the live scan so we are going to send the form in. Hopefully she will get in the exam before the life scan expires. :thumbdown

hi AAD
Please check your PM.

this morning at work while assisting the dentist i was trying hard to hold back my tears, they were tears of sadness...i just felt very, very sad and wondered how much longer i have to assist for...i've been doing this for a little over a year now and still have not been able to recuperate from debts incurred preparing for the bench...

earlier i was seriously considering going home but having lived in North america for 3 years I don't know whether living conditions will be better in a 3rd world country yes being able to practise but with meager pay even as a dentist...

in the meantime all our lives are on hold even planning for perhaps another child, which brings me back to the question, how much do I want this and what price am i going to pay and how long do i wait? it's physically, emotionally and mentally exhausting but i guess that's the cost of moving to another country...

hey all ..

im staill waiting for the board to post my NDB reference number .. i know the last time they updated it was 08/06/2004 but has anyones number shown up after that date ? ive triend to call the baord but never get a live person to talk to ..

thanks for the info in advance

this morning at work while assisting the dentist i was trying hard to hold back my tears, they were tears of sadness...i just felt very, very sad and wondered how much longer i have to assist for...i've been doing this for a little over a year now and still have not been able to recuperate from debts incurred preparing for the bench...

earlier i was seriously considering going home but having lived in North america for 3 years I don't know whether living conditions will be better in a 3rd world country yes being able to practise but with meager pay even as a dentist...

in the meantime all our lives are on hold even planning for perhaps another child, which brings me back to the question, how much do I want this and what price am i going to pay and how long do i wait? it's physically, emotionally and mentally exhausting but i guess that's the cost of moving to another country...
Mommyr,

I'm feeling the same was as you do, moving from another country & starting over again.

I have 2 kids in pre-school. They're both growing up so fast....& so are the expenses. I thought about going to school instead of wating for the exam but I could not afford it.And I didnt want to go back to my country to practice coz the pay isn't worth it. Plus, bec of poor economy, I get frustrated bec the patients could not afford some treatments. So, I have chosen to wait, hope & pray for this exam. I also work as a part time dental assistant. I will try to challenge the RDA exam just so I can get a salary increase. I heard RDA gets $18-$25 depending on experience & how good she/he works...

But I dont want to be an assistant for tooooo long either. But there's no other choice but to wait....... :(

Good luck to us all! :luck:

I want to know from all the people who are sending RT application that if you guys are sending your original cerificate of diploma and the transcripts or the ones ceritified by dean of their dental college back home along with the application.In case you are applying to dental schools as well,you might need the original ones and we don't know when DBC will be returning our original ones.Please let me know your opinions.

Hi There
Was wondering whether there are any classes related to the Bench Exam .. in the Bay Area.
I had heard once that Duggan was planning to come down here and have some course.
Any information will be appreciated.

Also .. any idea how many people apply for the bench exam every year .. and how many from that are allowed to sit for the exam?

Thanks very much
Swati P

hi everyone,
i have a doubt, since we have already sent our original score reports to the DBC, i dont have one right now. i have applied for a new report from ADA, but havnt got it yet. so is it ok if i send my application with out the original or may be just with a xerox copy of the score report?
is there anyone else among us whos waiting for the score report from ADA like me ??
any info would be highly appreciated.
thanks in advance.

i called DBC and asked if I could just attach a photocopy of my score report to the designated area in the application form since i have already submitted my original score card earlier and they said that's fine, they'll just match the application form with the score card they have on file.

hi everyone,
i have a doubt, since we have already sent our original score reports to the DBC, i dont have one right now. i have applied for a new report from ADA, but havnt got it yet. so is it ok if i send my application with out the original or may be just with a xerox copy of the score report?
is there anyone else among us whos waiting for the score report from ADA like me ??
any info would be highly appreciated.
thanks in advance.

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Dear friend,

I would like to know which store sells these special folders for the bench exam. I live in the UK , so I need to ask one of my friends in California to buy it for me and send it to me . I would appreciate it If you could tell me where to buy it.
Your quick response would ne greatly appreciated. I don't know how this website works, but please send me a reply to this email address:
tizad76@yahoo.com

Many thanks
tizad.

Hi Ivshah,

where did you buy your folders from ?? I mean which store ??
Thanks,
tizad

Hi Ivshah,

where did you buy your folders from ?? I mean which store ??
Thanks,
tizad

hi!
I order from www.businesssupply.com i dont know which store has it. ok good luck to you.

I live in New Mexico. I have been looking for this type of folder for several days and cannot find it any of the local stores (Staples, Office Depot, Office Max, Wal-Mart, Kmart, Target etc.). Would it be possible for you to mail one to me......please. I would really appreciate

I live in New Mexico. I have been looking for this type of folder for several days and cannot find it any of the local stores (Staples, Office Depot, Office Max, Wal-Mart, Kmart, Target etc.). Would it be possible for you to mail one to me......please. I would really appreciate

I bought from Office Depot.In store, they only have letter size (Smead). You have to order for legal size. If the price is > $ 15, free delivery. UPS will send to your address or you can pick up at Office Depot.

Hi There
Was wondering whether there are any classes related to the Bench Exam .. in the Bay Area.
I had heard once that Duggan was planning to come down here and have some course.
Any information will be appreciated.

Also .. any idea how many people apply for the bench exam every year .. and how many from that are allowed to sit for the exam?

Thanks very much
Swati P

swathi,

my friend had opened up a new state of the art RT training program in the bay area .. the website is www.studydent.com hes a great dentist and a good tutor , ud be lucky to have him train u ..

tx dentist

swathi,

my friend had opened up a new state of the art RT training program in the bay area .. the website is www.studydent.com hes a great dentist and a good tutor , ud be lucky to have him train u ..

tx dentist
hi!
do you know anyboday has taken this class. how is this class, i mean is it as good as duggan? if you can reply it will be great.

hey all ..


this is for all those who have previously taken the RT exam and have not passed it and are looking to re-apply for the Oct 2004 exam ..

i just called the board because i am re-taking my RT exam and they didnt still put my NDB Ref # up on the website and there is only 9 days left for the deadline. the lady tried to find my original application and told me she couldnt find my file because they sent my application back to me after i falied the test.

my question is: I DID not know that they send back your applications if you take and FAIL the exam. I thought the applications were returned to applicants only if you did not get in to take the test.

so now they dont have my first application and its lost..they dont have my NDB number on the website and acc. to the website they are not done posting all the numbers until the word "end" appears and it says it was last updated on 08/06/04.

On top of all this drama and confusion the application deadline is Sep. 10, 2004.

heres what im doing. im sending in my re-application irrespective of wether my NDB ref # is posted on the website or not. i am also going to attach proof that i already took the exam in aug 2003. i have the confirmation letter then sent me and i will attach my score report that shows that i failed the test. so i guess i can proove that eligible for the rt exam.


has any one in here experienced a similar **** up by the board ? and like the aldy told me today, did any of u who failed the bench get abck your original application from the baord ?? ive never heard of that before ..

?? just askin as it looks like im getting royally jacked by them again

hey thanx for the quick reply n the info....

Hi txdentist
I didn't get back my application neither have the others. as far as i know they don't send it back. board representatives are misinformed sometimes so u need to call them again and confirm that u r application is still there. i know 3-4 people who have failed the previous exams and none of their numbers show up in the list.
oletyrags

hey all ..


this is for all those who have previously taken the RT exam and have not passed it and are looking to re-apply for the Oct 2004 exam ..

i just called the board because i am re-taking my RT exam and they didnt still put my NDB Ref # up on the website and there is only 9 days left for the deadline. the lady tried to find my original application and told me she couldnt find my file because they sent my application back to me after i falied the test.

my question is: I DID not know that they send back your applications if you take and FAIL the exam. I thought the applications were returned to applicants only if you did not get in to take the test.

so now they dont have my first application and its lost..they dont have my NDB number on the website and acc. to the website they are not done posting all the numbers until the word "end" appears and it says it was last updated on 08/06/04.

On top of all this drama and confusion the application deadline is Sep. 10, 2004.

heres what im doing. im sending in my re-application irrespective of wether my NDB ref # is posted on the website or not. i am also going to attach proof that i already took the exam in aug 2003. i have the confirmation letter then sent me and i will attach my score report that shows that i failed the test. so i guess i can proove that eligible for the rt exam.


has any one in here experienced a similar **** up by the board ? and like the aldy told me today, did any of u who failed the bench get abck your original application from the baord ?? ive never heard of that before ..

?? just askin as it looks like im getting royally jacked by them again

Hi txdentist
I didn't get back my application neither have the others. as far as i know they don't send it back. board representatives are misinformed sometimes so u need to call them again and confirm that u r application is still there. i know 3-4 people who have failed the previous exams and none of their numbers show up in the list.
oletyrags


oletyrags,

so would u know what ur friends are planning to do ? i suggest they send their application in even if their number doesnt show up on the website and attach proof of the admission ticket and their report card ..

i mean freaking idiots ..wether we are in their "current" pool of eligible candidates or not , legally we are eligible as we have already taken the bench .. and it was clearly mentioned that re-applicants DO NOT need to send in their NDB scores .. it was also mentioned that the list was incomplete until the word "END" showed up and they were still working on updating the eligible candidate list .. the website it still that way and there is only a week for the application deadline .. there is nothing the applicants could do from their side ..

id appreciate it if anyone in the similar situation has any more ideas ..

Hi,

I took the RT exam before and did not pass the test. My reference number also does not appear on the list. I know few of my friends who also took the RT exam and did not pass. No one got their applications back. And none of their reference numbers appear on the website list either.

What are you guys planning to do?
I will call the dental board and see what I should do?

This regards ppl who are california residents.
What is Live Scan Fingerprinting?
I havent a clue!

Hi swathi,
UOP has a course starting at the end of september.
You might wana call them up and see if they are accepting applicants.

hi there
does anybody have any idea if the deadline for application applies to everybody taking the bench exam irrespective of when....i am not prepared for the benchexams now...so if iam planning to take it next year should my application b sent now....or are they going to put up dates for applying next year.....id appreciate if someone can reply soon....
swati

Sneha,
Read Q.No 18 in the Frequently Asked Questions Section for the RT Exam on the website www.dbc.ca.gov

You have to notify DBC within 45 days after failing the RT Test that you wish to reexamine. Otherwise you loose your eligibilty for any future exams.



Hi,

I took the RT exam before and did not pass the test. My reference number also does not appear on the list. I know few of my friends who also took the RT exam and did not pass. No one got their applications back. And none of their reference numbers appear on the website list either.

What are you guys planning to do?
I will call the dental board and see what I should do?

hi
anybody joinig duggan's classes on 17 of sep?

You have to notify DBC within 45 days after failing the RT Test that you wish to reexamine. Otherwise you loose your eligibilty for any future exams.


the 45 day rule applies only after and "from" the Oct 2004 exam as it was only included in the Bill AB1457 and not stated previously ..

[QUOTE=ram7378]Hi,

I took the RT exam before and did not pass the test. My reference number also does not appear on the list. I know few of my friends who also took the RT exam and did not pass. No one got their applications back. And none of their reference numbers appear on the website list either.

What are you guys planning to do?
I will call the dental board and see what I should do?[/QUOTE

as u know im in the same spot .. im sending the appln in regardless of whether my ref # is posted or if they lost my original file ..

just mail the application with proof of u taking the previous test and ur failed test report.. there can be no better proof than that ..and include a copy of ur ndb report..

if uve noticed our NDB Ref # is NOT printed on the Bench Report .. neither is our SSN so they can match both the NDB report and the Bench report .. so they are going to move their lazy fat asses a little bit more to verify our eligibility , which they deserve..

yeah, sure try to contact them on the phone and try to work it out even if its after the application deadline .. Atleast they cant say u never appied for the Oct 2004 test before the deadline ..

Hi !

Does anybody know from where we can buy the necessary equipments for the bench exam coarse? Especially the compressor?

Thank You!

Hi !

Does anybody know from where we can buy the necessary equipments for the bench exam coarse? Especially the compressor?

Thank You!
Hi futuredentist,

I got my compressor from home depot. Very affordable. It's a little bit noisy compared to the real dental compressors, but it just work as well as the expensive ones. I just place it inside a closed cabinet whenever I use it to minimize the noise (& to avoid compaints from neighbors).

All my instruments & materials, I got it from Duggan.

Hi,

I called up the CA dental board person. When I asked her that my ref number does not appear on the website although I took the RT exam. She replied that they are not done with posting the numbers and we need to wait. She was very rude in her reply. I already sent my application and asked to her the status (if it was complete or not). She replied that if you have sent it, then it should be complete. I don't know what the heck she meant. She was rude and very lazy and did not bother to check my file.

Anyway, I think we need to wait & see what happens.

Hi,

If I haven't preapared for the exam yet , but willing to take the UCLA course in Sept. or Oct. , do u think i have a chance to be prepared by Nov.?
Do u think i would have enough time to buy the equipment before the Sept 13 course?
Do u think i should send my application now or till next year?????

Thanks.

now the rank swells to 2000 candidates :(

Wonder when CDB will annouce the lucky few to sit in the Nov exam. :mad:

Hi, guys!
I was wondering if anyone attended UOP bench course. I would like to hear your feedback. I'm planning to attend the course, but I'm not sure whether it worth it. Thanks.

hi feruza,
where did u find information about the uop course....when does it start and wht is the cost?

Hey feruza,
I'll be taking the uop course as well. I just got the list of things to buy for the course. i dont know whether to buy these things from the uop book store or the stores that they have mentioned with the list or is it worthwhile to go looking for second hand stuff.

Hey shaya,
The UOP course starts Sept' 28th and it costs $ 2,500.
Call 415-929-6486 and ask for 'Post Graduate Studies'.
You can get all the information there.

thank u for the info....is it on their website too...i couldn't find it

Hi there, here is the info from their web in the UOP:
Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Sept 28, 29, 30
Preparation for the California State Board "Bench Test"
Restorative Technique Exam
WITH Practice Sessions: Oct 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15
AND a Mock Board: Saturday, Oct 23
Course Director: James Milani, DDS
Faculty: Brian Kenyon, DDS; Ai Streacker, DDS
Tuition: $2,500
Deposit: $830 (non-refundable deposit)
Time: 7:30 am - 5:30 pm (registration 7:00 am first day)
MOCK BOARD only:
Tuition: $695
Deposit: $250 (non-refundable deposit)
Time: 8:00 am - 1:00 pm (registration begins at 7:30 am)
This is the web you can check this out http://www.dental.uop.edu/ce1/schedule.htm, is the 6th course scheduled in their continuing education link.

Then you have duggans: www.duggandds.com http://www.duggandds.com/courses/board/ca_bench/courses_ca_bench.asp

UCLA;
http://uclasod.dent.ucla.edu/ContinuingEducation/index.asp?id=314
and this one too:
http://uclasod.dent.ucla.edu/ContinuingEducation/index.asp?id=482
They have also Mock Boards:
http://uclasod.dent.ucla.edu/ContinuingEducation/index.asp?id=481

Here is a new Institute www.studydent.com, check the place before take the course and see if you like it or not...
http://www.studydent.com/corsbb.htm

Hey feruza,
I'll be taking the uop course as well. I just got the list of things to buy for the course. i dont know whether to buy these things from the uop book store or the stores that they have mentioned with the list or is it worthwhile to go looking for second hand stuff.

Hi, there!
I'll be takin UOP couse as well. As for the list of instruments - I'm trying to find the ways how to cut my expenses. Bur