Since our school is officially changing names, we got to go through a transition period too. :laugh: Use both for 6 months just like the school website. Good luck with finals...almost done with the first year 2 more weeks, then FREEDOM!!! :luck:
Wo1verine7DO
KCUMB Class of 2007

I can't believe this year is almost over! I can't wait until we are all back here for MS II :eek:
Neuro I'm gonna getcha :D
So everyone good luck with all of these finals. Cumulatives and all.

Just remember to breath, and the rest will come.

TTYL
E

Good luck with finals week. :luck:

nice work wolverine! we should see if a moderator would carry over the posts from the old thread to this new one so we can keep our stars!

We finally get to rest. :) We're MS I and half until August, but we only have 3 years left till we graduate. Have a good summer everyone...

KCUMB's kind of a funny name, especially when you say it.

KCUMB's kind of a funny name, especially when you say it.

It's especially confusing given the names of the other med schools in KC.

-KUMC
-UMKC
and now...
-KCUMB

I guess that's what Pletz is going for...in 2007 MCI and Independence Regional are combining into a new big hospital...I wonder if they'll add the schools name to that since all of the faculty work at MCI...hmm...the school is still moving in a positive direction. They're building a new auditorium, big library and student center in one of the parking lots...

Hey all! I am entering the class of 2008, and I currently work at Menorah Medical Center. We are HCA owned, as are MCI and Independence Regional. I knew about the new hospital repacing them, and HCA is planning another new hospital, we hear south of town, but not sure. Anyway, my question is, are MCI and Mercy the only 2 UHS has rotations at, or, since many of the doc's go to more than 1 HCA facility, do you actually go to various places? Do you work in a department, or with a certain doc I guess is the difference? Thanks!
fingerstick

There a dozens of KC and Kansas locations for you to rotate during the 3rd year. I just chose to do a summer preceptorship for 4 weeks at MCI since I liked Dr. Johnston...overall, I think he's the only good IM doc the school has. He teaches really well and cares about your learning...old fashion though. Anyway, you can rotate throughout the US as well and its not just the HCA hospitals in KC.As for the other question, I just stay with Johnston all day and the residents and 3rd year students, I guess I can go around with a couple of other IM doctors but don't really think they teach as well. The other day I got lucky and a FP doc, Dr. Desai let me go with him to assist in a biopsy...but not all of them are as nice and helpful.

so did everyone in the 2007 class pass the finals and move on?? if u dont what then?? summer school or do u fall behind a year??

I think all but three past the written final and then there were two other finals - patient interviewing and physical exam skills plus a small written test on heart and lung sounds and misc stuff. What you don't pass you retake - there is a schedule posted for those who have to retake the tests. I am not completely sure of what happens if you fail again.

Also if you failed a section during the year you have to remediate that section too but I believe you are just retaking the final. I think if you fail three sections you are not allowed to return.

someone please add or correct me if I am wrong

I think all but three past the written final and then there were two other finals - patient interviewing and physical exam skills plus a small written test on heart and lung sounds and misc stuff. What you don't pass you retake - there is a schedule posted for those who have to retake the tests. I am not completely sure of what happens if you fail again.

Also if you failed a section during the year you have to remediate that section too but I believe you are just retaking the final. I think if you fail three sections you are not allowed to return.

someone please add or correct me if I am wrong

I can tell you what happens if you fail the heart and lung sounds again.....absolutely nothing. I failed the heart sounds last year and I am pretty sure I failed them on the retake and I haven't heard anything about it yet. Some people from the Class 2005 said that they actually forgot to give them their retake so they didn't have to take it the 2nd time. Anyway, ya'll have a good summer. 2nd year is long, but if you made it this far you will survive.

do you have any idea what kinda loan totals your classmates are looking at on average for the 4 year duration??

PLEASE do not stay in KC for your third year rotations. Unless things have really changed in the past few years, most of the KC rotations (especially IM) are considered a huge joke! YOU WILL NOT BE WELL TRAINED. If you don't believe me, do a month at MCI, then do a month at KU, UMKC or any other large allopathic institution. UHS is great at the basic sciences, but they totally suck when it comes to clinical training. :(

PLEASE do not stay in KC for your third year rotations. Unless things have really changed in the past few years, most of the KC rotations (especially IM) are considered a huge joke! YOU WILL NOT BE WELL TRAINED. If you don't believe me, do a month at MCI, then do a month at KU, UMKC or any other large allopathic institution. UHS is great at the basic sciences, but they totally suck when it comes to clinical training. :(

ah yes... along those lines... how hard is the school to get along with if you want to do certain rotations at other places than normal?? i.e. can you easily decide where you want to rotate at???? any tips?? thx

also.. dress attire... either dressed up, or scrubs right?? is there some place we are *supposed* to get scrubs/white coat from or can any of you recommend a decent place?? many thanks in advance.

You are the first person I have ever heard of saying negative things. So what about Dr. Johnston or Arnold they don't do a good job? I have heard very positive things from other recent classes. I hear our students are soooo prepared they do so well everywhere. Please elaborate.


PLEASE do not stay in KC for your third year rotations. Unless things have really changed in the past few years, most of the KC rotations (especially IM) are considered a huge joke! YOU WILL NOT BE WELL TRAINED. If you don't believe me, do a month at MCI, then do a month at KU, UMKC or any other large allopathic institution. UHS is great at the basic sciences, but they totally suck when it comes to clinical training. :(

To Coolbreez,

Not sure. They used to be pretty flexible. Unfortunately, many/most schools won't take students who haven't already completed their core rotations so you may be stuck. However, even if you get stuck in KC during third year, you'll have plenty of time during electives and fourth year to make up for it. Just be aware of the problem and try to work around it. They have lots of rotation sites in many different states but I don't know very much about most of them. In general, you need to be at large urban hospitals or large rural facilities that are regional referral centers (they have a great site like that in southern Missouri). Also, look for hospitals that have HIGH case volume, HIGH case variety, dedicated didactics and residencies in multiple specialties (tend to be more organized and dedicated to education).

I don't know what to tell you about the dress code...we didn't have one. My class lived in scrubs and sweats. I don't understand the purpose of a dress code during the basic science years. Your class should petition to get it abolished...either that or they should increase your loan package to include funds for wardrobe! :eek:

To apass,

You misunderstand. My comments have nothing to do with individual physicians. I don't know Dr. Johnston. Dr. Arnold, although not the nicest man on the planet, is nonetheless an outstanding surgeon...or so I've heard (I only had him for clinical lectures). Is he STILL saying "men should be doctors...women should be nurses"? I always suspected he just enjoyed tormenting us! HaHa! Sorry...I digress. Anyway, the main problem is case load and variety. I did not do my cores in KC but had good friends who did. They often complained they were sitting around with nothing to do...not a good way to learn clinical medicine! As I said, this was several years ago and things may have changed. :D

Just curious, why the name change?

Yes - scrubs or dress up with white coat. You get your white coat the first week of school and scrubs you can buy on line or at the bookstore. I bought mine at the bookstore they are about the same price and I could try them on. I would say that 95% of the class is in scrubs everyday but some people do dress up because they don't like scrubs.

The first week or I guess I should say orientation - LeAnn will clue you into all the rules and regulations on the uniform.

Elizabeth or Anthony may have some suggestions.

Make sure you take everything you read on this website with a grain a salt. Sometimes this website stress me out with what I read. It is good to see negative things to wake you up sometimes but I have always heard good things from 3rd years about our rotational sites. UHS is a great school and I have really enjoyed it. There are soooo many positives about this place - you will love it.

see ya
angela






also.. dress attire... either dressed up, or scrubs right?? is there some place we are *supposed* to get scrubs/white coat from or can any of you recommend a decent place?? many thanks in advance.

okay well it sounds like you have been gone for awhile. the dress code is not a big deal people wear scrubs from the hospitals they worked in. Actually the dress code isn't even followed that much - alot of people wear tshirts and scrub pants.

Why is it that over 90 students from the class of 2006 want to stay in KC? My big sister who was a nurse prior to entering UHS wants to stay in KC.
Please explain.


Not sure. They used to be pretty flexible. Unfortunately, many/most schools won't take students who haven't already completed their core rotations so you may be stuck. However, even if you get stuck in KC during third year, you'll have plenty of time during electives and fourth year to make up for it. Just be aware of the problem and try to work around it. They have lots of rotation sites in many different states but I don't know very much about most of them. In general, you need to be at large urban hospitals or large rural facilities that are regional referral centers (they have a great site like that in southern Missouri). Also, look for hospitals that have HIGH case volume, HIGH case variety, dedicated didactics and residencies in multiple specialties (tend to be more organized and dedicated to education).

I don't know what to tell you about the dress code...we didn't have one. My class lived in scrubs and sweats. I don't understand the purpose of a dress code during the basic science years. Your class should petition to get it abolished...either that or they should increase your loan package to include funds for wardrobe! :eek:

I am NOT saying UHS doesn't have good rotations sites, because they do (and always did). I should not say that KC is a bad place to do clinicals, because they may have improved. I am only saying that it was not a good place to be WHEN I WAS THERE (late 1990's). At that time, most of my class wanted to stay in KC, myself included. The VAST majority wanted to stay for personal reasons (I had purchased a home there). However, I can't think of a SINGLE person who wanted to stay for the clincial training. We really didn't know any better. I'm not going to argue with you since you obviously don't understand what I'm trying to say, so I propose you do the following. Initiate and distribute a pole among recent third year students and ask them the following questions:

1. On your IM rotations:
What was your average daily patient census?
How much autonomy did you have?
How many LPs, paracenteses and other proceedures did you do?
Did you have ICU responsibilities or a dedicated ICU rotation?
Were you taught to read chest and abdominal films? Head CTs?
Did you have dedicated didactics?
Did you have access to and lectures from specialists in GI, Pulmonology,
Heme/Onc, ID, Urology, Nephrology, Neurology, Ophtho, Derm, etc.?

2. On your EM rotation:
Was your facility a level 1 or even level 2 trauma center?
How many codes did you see and/or assist with?
How many intubations did you do?
How many lines did you place?
Were you taught to read chest, abdominal and skeletal films as well as
head CTs?
How many lacerations did you repair?

3. On your general surgery rotation:
How many surgeries did you see and assist with?
How many different types of proceedures did you see and assist with?
How many central lines did you do?
How many art lines did you do?
How many PA catheters did you do?
What was your average daily patient census?
Did you have access to surgical subspecialists or the opportunity to do
rotations on surgical subspecialties (cardiac, trauma, ortho, transplant,
etc.)?

4. On your peds rotation:
Did you have inpatient responsibilities or just outpatient?

5. On your OB/GYN rotation:
How many babies did YOU deliver?
How many C-sections did you assist with?
How many hysterectomies, tubal ligations, oophorectomies, etc., did
you see and/or assist with?
How many pelvic exams did you do?

It's your education. If you don't have the variety you won't get the experience. If you don't have the volume you won't become proficient. Get the idea?:rolleyes:

It is not that I don't understand I am just asking you to tell me why because I have heard differently. I am not just out of college and entering medical school I am 32 and take my education very seriously. I to have a house in KC and I wanted to stay but I can easily head back to St. Louis. Those are all good questions to ask. What year are you? Did you see that MCI is building a new hospital?


Most of my class wanted to stay in KC, myself included. The VAST majority wanted to stay for personal reasons (I had purchased a home there). However, I can't think of a SINGLE person who wanted to stay for the clincial training. We really didn't know any better. I'm not going to argue with you since you obviously don't understand what I'm trying to say, so I propose you do the following. Initiate and distribute a pole among recent third year students and ask them the following questions:

1variety you won't get the expereince. If you don't have the volume you won't become proficient. Get the idea?:rolleyes:

Hey everyone,
I wear scrubs to class except when we have the mock interviews or the first week of class...
ALso, MCI doesn't stink, except for Johnston, he's awesome teacher. Although the reason you don't learn much in IM is there aren't many patients to learn from. I'm at a preceptorship and for the last week and a half I've seen the same people...and a few rare things like psychiatric patients. If you want to learn, go outside to a biger location...you'll learn what you see here...its just that its not as exciting. It is also what you make of it...if you do a lot in a rotation you'll learn more than someone who just passively observes stuff. After doing my preceptorship, I wouldn't mind rotating with Johnston only, but I"m heading to another state to rotate in a large urban hospital to see it all. I've also heard good things about rotating in KC...it varies from person to person...if you have questions PM or IM me.

MCI and Indendence regional are combining, but the hospital won't be done until 2007...it might be a good residency spot. If your in KC, you might miss MCI since there are a ton of hospitals in the area...I forgot to mention that...research seems like a big hospital in the area that does a lot of procedures unlike MCI since MCI refers patients there.

do you have any idea what kinda loan totals your classmates are looking at on average for the 4 year duration??

ONE BILLION DOLLARS!! No, seriously I would be surprised if anyone got out of here in 2006 for less than 150 G's. I am looking at more along the lines of 170K myself.

do you have any idea what kinda loan totals your classmates are looking at on average for the 4 year duration??

ONE BILLION DOLLARS!! No, seriously I would be surprised if anyone got out of here in 2006 for less than 150 G's. I am looking at more along the lines of 170K myself. That is why I am going to do cardiology. :)

lol kewl..

have you heard of anyone going for NS ?? wonder how they did or where they went... :confused:

i just got back from seeing my grandmother in ohio, and came back to a letter from kcumb asking me to fill out an equipment request sheet, with check, and mail it back in. anyone else get it yet?? it says that they want it back within a month or acceptance will be withdrawn. i understand the need to not procrastinate, but comon. why do they threaten us like that??

:confused:

i just got back from seeing my grandmother in ohio, and came back to a letter from kcumb asking me to fill out an equipment request sheet, with check, and mail it back in. anyone else get it yet?? it says that they want it back within a month or acceptance will be withdrawn. i understand the need to not procrastinate, but comon. why do they threaten us like that??

:confused:

Perhaps you should ask your fellow 2008ers not the class of 2007:laugh:

But whats this about a check? They want more money?

yea... more money before we ever get the loan money... sigh...

i asked the 2007 group to see if this letter was the same for them last year... just seems weird... or maybe this is something that i just gotta get used to all the way to the end...

"you must supply us with the names of everyone who will be attending your graduation ceremony or else you will lose your seat in the class and never graduate..." :rolleyes:

I've never seen that form? Maybe they have something new for you to buy? Unless they added something stupid like giving you all the medical equipment...you don't really need all of it now.

I know there is going to be a new program for using the printers at school. Maybe it's for that. Each student will have a certain number of pages they can print a semester. From what I remember, it should be fine though for getting everything you need printed.

I hope you are all having a fun summer. I'm studying my butt off. I've never studied this much and can hardly stand it. Enjoy your summer because the next summer definitely doesn't start out so great. I think the rest of it will be good though!

what goes on during the summer between 2nd & 3rd yrs and 3rd & 4th yrs?? I though all summers were off unless you decided to go do a clerkship or something??

I will not have any summer vacation again for the rest of my life...once august starts, I'll go to school 365 days, you might not get christmas, thanksgiving, etc. when your on rotations...so second year you basically have spring break and that's all, even then you should be studying for board exams...

I believe that the 2nd years get a month off prior to starting their rotations but your only true summer off will be between first and second year. I think you get about 3 weeks off between 3rd and 4th year. The 2nd years will be taking boards this coming weekend. They have been studying their asses off since mid April for boards.

what goes on during the summer between 2nd & 3rd yrs and 3rd & 4th yrs?? I though all summers were off unless you decided to go do a clerkship or something??

PainDr - IM does LPs? I just did a two week preceptor at St. Barnabas - awesome experience and it was great to see UHS grads there. Anyways general surgery came to the ED to do LPs. I guess maybe IM does them on their floor or maybe it is just different every where you go.

Could you recommend some clerkship sites that you have heard good things about outside of MI and OH?
thanks

I like to help every once and a while...

I went to UHS and now I am in my final year of residency.

There is likely a small amount of summer vacation between years 1 and 2 and a few weeks in year 2-3. Other than that, summer vacation is for high school kids! Rotations in your clerkship years are on a July-June schedule (usually) with variation. Prior to starting residency (internship year) you will likely have a month or 2 off.

As for procedures in the hospital...it is hospital dependent but I have NEVER EVER heard of surgery doing LP's in the ED!! I do all my own procedures from LP's to intubations to central lines to joint dislocations to initial vent managment.

A respectible EM residency does all procedures...or should be willing to do all procedures. Avoid any residency that does not.

I like to help every once and a while...

I went to UHS and now I am in my final year of residency.

There is likely a small amount of summer vacation between years 1 and 2 and a few weeks in year 2-3. Other than that, summer vacation is for high school kids! Rotations in your clerkship years are on a July-June schedule (usually) with variation. Prior to starting residency (internship year) you will likely have a month or 2 off.

As for procedures in the hospital...it is hospital dependent but I have NEVER EVER heard of surgery doing LP's in the ED!! I do all my own procedures from LP's to intubations to central lines to joint dislocations to initial vent managment.

A respectible EM residency does all procedures...or should be willing to do all procedures. Avoid any residency that does not.


I was just thinking that was done because Barnabas is a teaching hospital and they came down to teach - not sure though - it just may have been a weird situation. Barnabas is a pretty cool place to learn.

Having the entire summer off between 1st and 2nd year is nice. Do you recommend any sites for your 3rd and 4th year? thanks

My 4th year was entirely in Indy through IU and at a local DO's rural FP practice. Go to an established large hospital during your 3rd year. A hospital where there are residents to learn from...they have a lot to teach you. Much depends on the area of medicine you wish to focus (ie 4th year electives).

Congrats Class of 2007, enjoy your summer

If you are looking for a unique living experience then the City Market area of Kansas City is for you. My name is Tony Murino and I am going to be a third year and UHS (KCUMB) and have been living in the City Market in a loft since I moved here from Chicago. This is by far the best place in the city to live. There are so many places to eat and drink and plus it is only a mile and a half to school. There are no bridges to cross or expressways to fight traffic every morning. I can tell you there is nothing like waking up at 7:30 and still making it to class on time.

There are 4 building down here in the river market that the office that I work out of leases. All of them are great and have been recently renovated. The rent starts out at about $750 and goes up from there. These are ideal if you have someone to live with or have someone moving here with you. I work in the office mostly on the weekends but there is someone here seven days a week. So just call and set up an appointment so we can show you everything we have.

Check out the website at www.kcloftspace.com (http://www.kcloftspace.com)
Office number: 816-474-5638

Any questions post them here or call

Tony Murino

Angela,
How was St. Barnabas, wasn't too impressed with MCI, but since I'm from NJ, that's one of my choices. Could you describe how it was, did you interact with a lot of residents and interns? Are there a lot of students per preceptor, just wondering, could you e-mail me or something about your experiences, also what did yo do your 2 week preceptorship...
Anthony

hey Anthony - i had an amazing time I learned sooo much it was awesome. I worked with 3rd and 4th year residents and 3rd and 4th year med students plus the attendings. I did everything from installing iv lines, blood draws, staples to PELVIC EXAMS!!! I did the patient interviewing, physical and soap note. i had a great time and at barnabas you see everything. All the students and doctors were awesome and they wanted to teach. I relearned so many things i have forgotten like EKGs. I also got to see little things like zosters and lots of asthma, diabetes, heart disease cases. So i would recommend this place to anyone. It is an inner city hospital and there was alot of spanish speaking going on. The hospital is very organized and runs a 4 hour lecture each wednesday for the med students. I was a great place plus I stayed with a friend my mine from NYCOM and it was good to meet NYCOM students.

tell me about MCI - what did you do?

i got to go i am in florence and the hotel is annoyed i have been on the internet to long. i will check back soon

Angela,
How was St. Barnabas, wasn't too impressed with MCI, but since I'm from NJ, that's one of my choices. Could you describe how it was, did you interact with a lot of residents and interns? Are there a lot of students per preceptor, just wondering, could you e-mail me or something about your experiences, also what did yo do your 2 week preceptorship...
Anthony

I'll e-mail things about MCI to you...

if you were already accepted to uhs but still were taking some classes, would they get mad (lose acceptance) at you if you got a C in one of them??

Don't worry about the C. They won't kick you out!!

Anyone have suggestions as to which cell phone company to get in KC? I currently have TMobile but heard that sprint works alot better in KC.

Run, don't walk away from Sprint. You would think that they would have good surface in KC (since this is their HQ) and you would be WRONG!! I had Sprint when I first moved here and it sux arse!! Their customer service is the worst in America and they drop calls like a bad habit. A couple of classmates had the same problems as I did and they all got rid of Sprint. I paid mt final bill in full and completely terminated my service yet somehow I still get a bill for a "customer service fee." They will get that $5 when they pry it from my cold, dead hand. I am actually surprised that they are still in business actually. I have Verizon now and it is 10,000X better than Sprint.

Bama you live in CT correct? Does verizon work well in there? I plan on using it as my primary phone so I need it to work in my apartment.

I have Cingular and I have never had any problems.

Bama you live in CT correct? Does verizon work well in there? I plan on using it as my primary phone so I need it to work in my apartment.

Some of the exterior walls here at CT are pretty thick so occasionally you will have a dropped call while inside the apartment but this is rare. I have noticed that there are certain areas inside the apartment that it seems to lose some of the signal strength, so I avoid that particular corner or move if it gets bad, but it really doesn't happen too often. I use it as my primary phone and I haven't had many problems at all. I have free nationwide long distance which is nice if you have a lot of friends and relatives out of town.

I use verizon and it works fine in CT although I live on 10th floor on the corner...
How's everyone's summer going?

http://home.austin.rr.com/austintxmd/Pages/intro.html

Hey guys - I am not ready to head back to classes yet. I am going to need every bit of the next 4 weeks to get ready. Are any of you guys ready to go? Let me know how everyone is doing.

Hey guys - I am not ready to head back to classes yet. I am going to need every bit of the next 4 weeks to get ready. Are any of you guys ready to go? Let me know how everyone is doing.

I am definitely not ready. Im just getting in to the rhytum of being a slacker. My body is just now acclimating to the increased EtOH levels. You should see my liver.......the liver of a dedicated athlete. :eek: :meanie:

How was Italia, apass?

ciao!

I am definitely not ready. Im just getting in to the rhytum of being a slacker. My body is just now acclimating to the increased EtOH levels. You should see my liver.......the liver of a dedicated athlete. :eek: :meanie:

How was Italia, apass?

ciao!


It was good to go back. Good to see family and amazing to see more of Italy. I drank plenty of wine everyday - cheap and good. The flight seems to get harder for me though - I hate it.

I know what you mean about being a slacker - I like it too. I have not increased the alcohol though. My day consists of sleeping, running, eating, sleeping and maybe doing a few things around the house. Are you riding? I have not gone riding once and now I am fixated on the tour every morning. I am sure you are watching too. Let me know when you are heading out for a ride.

We only have 4 weeks left? WOW, I should start looking at a calendar again.

http://home.austin.rr.com/austintxmd/Pages/intro.html

I have blue cross and blue shield and I frequently get bills from the doctors office asking me to pay the difference between what they (my insurance) are willing to pay and what other insurance companies wil pay. I wonder if this doc does that.

It was good to go back. Good to see family and amazing to see more of Italy. I drank plenty of wine everyday - cheap and good. The flight seems to get harder for me though - I hate it.

I know what you mean about being a slacker - I like it too. I have not increased the alcohol though. My day consists of sleeping, running, eating, sleeping and maybe doing a few things around the house. Are you riding? I have not gone riding once and now I am fixated on the tour every morning. I am sure you are watching too. Let me know when you are heading out for a ride.

I may go tommorow afternoon and/or Friday afternoon. email me or come find me in the lab.

I have blue cross and blue shield and I frequently get bills from the doctors office asking me to pay the difference between what they (my insurance) are willing to pay and what other insurance companies wil pay. I wonder if this doc does that.

seriously?? yikes? did you tell them upfront you would, or do they just expect you to anyways?? weird...

dood, i checked out that website and actually did the math. if you notice, his payment is only for the regular visits shown. he did not include the money generated from all of the other procedures, and if you used the highest paying insurance, the guy makes 3-400k a year. not bad. the lowest one was still in the positive if you include everything else, so i think he is making it look much more grim than realistically... maybe im wrong??

I don't know whats up with that. It's been happening since I was a kid. For instance when I got some blood work done for my immuno records they sent me a bill. Not for procedures that my insurance wouldn't cover but for the difference between what they (my insurance would pay) and what they wanted for a procedure. Anyone else experience this?

I guess this is one way to combat the problem of lower reimburstments.

Anthony - you are right - ****! only a month left!!!

Daveyboy - sorry i have not been in touch. I have been cleaning my house and trying to get crap done before school starts. You know the drill -well i think my drill is alittle different from yours.

Can you Pm me your home number or is it right in the phone book? Lets schedule some easy rides before the harder ones - I have not ridden once. Did you see that Lance went down today early in the stage - he is okay though.

see you guys,
Angela

Hey guys - I am starting my second preceptor with Dr. Kolo at the Clay County Health Center. I know that if Stacy sees this - she is laughing at me right now:) Hopefully I will get to work with McClain too. Send prayers please.

Apass,
Let me know how working with Kolo goes...

WHAT HAPPENED TO uhs 2007?

WHAT HAPPENED TO uhs 2007?

HEY ANKUR - nice of you drop in again. You should know who I am. I went to Italy this summer to see family and you sometimes steal my friend's seat in the second row:) I give you crap all the time and one my bestest friend's is Divya.

What do you mean what happen to Uhs 2007 - the name CHANGED!!!! So we have a new thread.

hope you are doing well! Still not ready for class

Wassup everyone! I'm sitting in the ER @ St. John's in St. Louis, and since were not getting hammered, I thought I'd drop a line. Hope everyone's summer is going well. I'm looking forward to getting back to KC.

Angela, don't ever call call my house @ midnight when you're out w/Jack.

Justin

Justin - miss you buddy! I'll call your house whenever I want:)
Actually I didn't make the call it was Jack!!! It is his fault! Will you be working in the ED this coming week? I will be in St. Louis visiting family and I might have to come by and give you trouble.

see ya Angela

Hey guys - by the way things are good at the Clay County Health Dept. I have worked with Peters, McClain, and Kolo. I have learned alot. I did a rectal, prostate and more pelvics. All the docs want you to do the interview and physical. It has been good practice. Anthony are you doing any more preceptors right now? Do you plan on staying in KC next year?

see you guys
Justin STOP gunning it up! I know Anthony already is:)

Hey everyone. My wife and I are adding maternity coverage soon, and our premium w/BCBS of MO will be almost $400/mo!! That is a ton of money, so if anyone knows of some cheaper alternatives, please let me know.

Thanks,
Justin

Pass, and Sandall, The 2 Biggest Gunners in our class, awesome! Which one of you is going to take the spot for #1 this year?, haha , just playin!

Summer has been going great, no rectals... however I did learn to wakeboard, and Ive been out mt biking, MBA=DRAG... Ne ways... enjoy summer remember we only have 2 weeks left, live it up!

Ankur

Pass, and Sandall, The 2 Biggest Gunners in our class, awesome! Which one of you is going to take the spot for #1 this year?, haha , just playin!

Summer has been going great, no rectals... however I did learn to wakeboard, and Ive been out mt biking, MBA=DRAG... Ne ways... enjoy summer remember we only have 2 weeks left, live it up!

Ankur

Where did you learn to wakeboard? We have more than two weeks of vacation left - don't make it start any sooner than it has to. How many actual days of vacation do you get with the MBA before classes start? Hang in there the MBA is almost over for the summer.

You better come out for Divya's birthday Friday night!

Angela,
I shadowed an Opthamologist, who is a family friend, that was about all the stuff I did since I left KC. I'm glad that you had a good experiences at Clay County, I should have done my 4 weeks there instead of MCI. You'll be ahead of the game...anyway, off to New Mexico...see you later. Anyone going to the baseball game on aug. 4th?
Hey Justin, how's it going?
Hey Ankur, I haven't seen you on SDN in a long time...
To everyone, have a good summer and rest well, I saw that Neuro schedule...I wish I hadn't... :eek:
Anthony

Anthony,

I'm doing very well. Just wrapping up the summer here is St. Louis and getting ready to move back to KC on Saturday. I'm looking forward to starting school again! I only saw the first week's schedule for Neuro, but it didn't look too bad. We'll get through it. Noticed that you, Ankur, and Angela have been giving out advice for the first years....don't know if that's bad or good. :laugh: Don't let them get too stressed.

I'm gonna go to the game on the 4th. The Royals suck, but you can't beat a nice evening at the ballpark.

See you guys soon,
Justin

bUmP!!!!!!!!!!!

Are we ready for Neuro???

bUmP!!!!!!!!!!!

Are we ready for Neuro???

Nope not ready for NEURO!

The question is...
IS NEURO READY FOR ME!!!!!!
Just kidding!
I am definitely not looking forward to anatomy the first day back!!!

Neuro won't be so bad, just long...I heard that Stephens helps you out a lot in anatomy lab, at least that's what I heard from the MS2's from last year. Isn't it really humid here this week...? Any of you going to the baseball game on Wed?

Bumping this up to the first page. See you guys/gals monday. :luck:

My application was finally mailed today. I am only applying to KCUMB as my wife was accepted last year but deferred to start in 2005 (class of 2009). I am curious about where I might stack up in the competition for interview with respect to class of 2007 which is the last class with a profile on the website.

My Science GPA is 3.15 (ugh!)
MCAT (11/11/9) 9 in bio.

Other areas of application are more subjective, but I feel my experience is pretty strong, just worried about the GPA.

Thanks,

Keith F
kafairba (at) comcast.net

If you have good experience, then get some excellent LORs, and show a lot of interest, you should be set for an interview. Do not be afraid to tell them that you REALLY WANT TO GO THERE!! :)



My application was finally mailed today. I am only applying to KCUMB as my wife was accepted last year but deferred to start in 2005 (class of 2009). I am curious about where I might stack up in the competition for interview with respect to class of 2007 which is the last class with a profile on the website.

My Science GPA is 3.15 (ugh!)
MCAT (11/11/9) 9 in bio.

Other areas of application are more subjective, but I feel my experience is pretty strong, just worried about the GPA.

Thanks,

Keith F
kafairba (at) comcast.net
:laugh:

I bet you'd get into KCUMB...with those MCAT scores, it should off-set the GPA.

Thanks for the replies.

You bet I really want to go to KCUMB. It's the only school I am applying to. My wife was accepted to Western and KCUMB. We reserved at western first and I wanted to at least see KCUMB since my family lives in southeast Nebraska. We both loved the campus and the people we met. KC is a fantastic city with a similar feel to Portland where we live now.

My wife deferred 1 year because we are expecting our first child in December. So we are hopefully going to be classmates.

Keith

does anyone know if Truman med is friendly to students from kcumb??

Yes TMC Hospital hill is DO friendly...I shadowed in the Radiology Deparment...plus our school has interns that rotate there. And we all get to go to either MCI or Childrens Mercy as a MS 1...


Good luck to everyone on our last anatomy practical...no more stinky labs... :eek:

Cooldreams...since your on SDN a lot, can you bump this to the first page once in a while...we're all busy with neuro

just as long as i get to ask u guys q's when im takin neuro :P hehehe

Cooldreams...since your on SDN a lot, can you bump this to the first page once in a while...we're all busy with neuro

Hahahahahaha :laugh:
Here Toby!
:meanie: :meanie: :meanie: :meanie: :meanie: :meanie: :meanie:

Hahahahahaha :laugh:
Here Toby!
:meanie: :meanie: :meanie: :meanie: :meanie: :meanie: :meanie:


No more questions allowed from Cooldreams!:) Cooldreams you have way too much time on your hands.

Bump...to the first page so I can still remember we have this here.
"Just movin on up to the Deluxe Apartment in the Sky...oh movin on up" I saw the Jefferson's on Nick at nite...apparently I have time to post here in Neuro...I almost got epilepsy with all those flashing pathways... :scared:

Here's a bump. And here are some great pictures from this weekend in the NFL!
http://www.nfl.com/u/nfl/photos/nfl145c_lower.jpg
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Here's a bump. And here are some great pictures from this weekend in the NFL!
http://www.nfl.com/u/nfl/photos/nfl145c_lower.jpg
http://www.nfl.com/u/nfl/photos/nfl145a_lower.jpg
http://www.nfl.com/u/nfl/photos/nfl14a8_lower.jpg
http://www.nfl.com/u/nfl/photos/nfl14a2_lower.jpg

:clap:

:clap:

dood... those savages!!.. hehe..

dood... those savages!!.. hehe..

Thugs :D

Thugs :D

Hey, The raiders might get ricky williams if he returns...allmost done with neuro :thumbup:

Hey, The raiders might get ricky williams if he returns...allmost done with neuro :thumbup:

Just what we need, another player with drug problems :rolleyes:

It ain't over till the fat lady sings... but that day is coming soon :D

Anyone from KCUMB going to DO Day on the Hill next spring?

I think there are some? No one's really talked about it.

Hey 2007--

I am sure most of you know this already, but I am joining your class next year. I was accepted as the OPP Fellow for 2004-2005.

I guess I just love school so much that I wasn't ready to get out in the real world and make money yet!!!!!
:eek: :eek: :eek:

Chris

Hey 2007--

I am sure most of you know this already, but I am joining your class next year. I was accepted as the OPP Fellow for 2004-2005.

I guess I just love school so much that I wasn't ready to get out in the real world and make money yet!!!!!
:eek: :eek: :eek:

Chris

NO!!!!!! wait.. uhh... urr... GREAT!! congrats dood hehe seriously!! :D

so what do you do as the OPP Fellow?

Congrats Chris :)
The Classes of 08 and 09 will be very lucky to have you around to be a fellow!
Welcome to our class :)

The ever growing Class of 07 :) **Which we all know rocks the house anyways **


E :luck:

Hey Chris,
Welcome... hey, I met Angel here in CT, he said he knows you and he sent you to Medicine Lodge, KS...he told me a lot about 3rd and 4th years...

We fell to page 4 and I'm extremely bored out of my mind.... :eek: Only 3 more weeks till we're done with 3/4th our first 2 classroom years...

You are BORED - are you kidding! I am soooo happy to have a few days off and thought I would see what was going on here. You are right though about the little amount of classes we have left. If you think about it we only have three graded sections after xmas and then integrative. I know we have to suck it up until the end of July. Right now I just want to make it through boards.

see you monday



We fell to page 4 and I'm extremely bored out of my mind.... :eek: Only 3 more weeks till we're done with 3/4th our first 2 classroom years...

Good Luck with Renal finals etc and have a good break...

We are falling behind guys:)

Welcome back to KC - no more vacation until mid June.

Hope everyone had a great break and see you soon.

Hey Chris,
Welcome... hey, I met Angel here in CT, he said he knows you and he sent you to Medicine Lodge, KS...he told me a lot about 3rd and 4th years...

Yeah Angel is very cool and a great source of information about rotations. If you ever have questions about rotations or anything, don't hesitate to email/call me. Hope class is going well. I suspect you guys are just starting Endocrine?? Good section but was my worst!! :eek: :eek:

Peace out!

-C

Hi Everyone -

Can someone inform me as to the positives and negatives of attending KCUMB. I'm having a difficult decision as to where it is that I want to attend. I've received acceptance from LECOM, KCUMB, and MSUCOM. Any advice?

Hi Everyone -

Can someone inform me as to the positives and negatives of attending KCUMB. I'm having a difficult decision as to where it is that I want to attend. I've received acceptance from LECOM, KCUMB, and MSUCOM. Any advice?

well since you are from michigan, i would assume financially your best bet would be msucom. personally i would chose kcumb. i think this school has a lot going for it right now, and it is only getting better.... boards, instituition, curriculum, alumni... its all great and only getting better.

good luck.

well since you are from michigan, i would assume financially your best bet would be msucom. personally i would chose kcumb. i think this school has a lot going for it right now, and it is only getting better.... boards, instituition, curriculum, alumni... its all great and only getting better.

good luck.

I agree, unless you hated MSU, then it is probably your best bet financially. I'm happy here, though.

Go to where you're happy...however, I think MSUCOM can offer a better education ...my family knows a lot of people there, if I was from MI originally I would have chose that, but 40,000 for out of state was too high for me...its one of the top 25 primary care medical schools as well...so its ranked pretty high...

you are crazy if you do not go to where it is cheaper. your education is great at all DO schools in my opinion. if you can come out with under 200 grand, unlike myself, then i would definitely got to msucom.

Just wanted to bump this up, I couldn't find it...hey everyone, how's it going?
Just a few more months to go...
Just created this new name sicne I made a new email address since I'm going to be on this earth 1/4 of my life so far...I feel old :eek:

Passee,
just to make sure you guys know I didn't decide to transfer. I assumed everyone would be on here, but I guess there's that boards thing or whatever...

I think I am going to change my ID to Inferior ILA, just sounds funnier. :idea:

Thanks for bumping the thread back up, I couldn't find it anymore :laugh:
We're finally done with Graded class...now just P or F...

Thanks for bumping the thread back up, I couldn't find it anymore :laugh:
We're finally done with Graded class...now just P or F...

Was it just me or was that entire semester low yield. I am amazed at how little endocrine we were able to do in some of the earlier sections by having that so late, and that is just amazingly central. Maybe I'm just being hypokalemic...

Hey 2007s, you're almost done with 2nd year! Then you finish out the summer and go off to the wards, where you will be kicking butt.

I'm getting a lot of emails (which is great, keep 'em coming) about COMLEX and USMLE STEP I. Here's just my .02.

For COMLEX:
make sure that you KNOW the chapter 2 in the Simmons book on innervations. Know it cold. That is huge high yield for Steps I and 2.
My test had a bunch of sacrum. Practice using your id card as a scarum an how to diagnose based on description.
My test also had a bunch of cranial. Most was just diagnosis (i.e., vertical strain patttern).

I thought the pharm over all was real easy. It asks mostly about drugs by class, not by drug. Make sure that you understand what the CLASS of drugs does and some of its contraindications (for example, no quinolones in children). Also, read up on the weird reactions, like red man syndrome, photosensitivity, Stevens-Johnson.
And remember....always....common things are common. Think "the most likely." Don;t get yourself all wound up in thinking, "Well, I think it's meningitis and you would an antibiotic, but what if it were viral or fungal??AGGH!" Go back and re-read the question and ask yourself, most likely. Is this a 27 year old AIDs patient or a six year old previously healthy child?

KNOW the adrenergic/cholinergic drugs. Those are ON THE TEST.

Dr. El-Sawi's notes are high yield for micro. You absolutely should review those. I also liked the Micro made simple. Copy the graphs and go over them, make notes on the back about the important pathogens. Again, common things are common, think most likely. Study your STDs.

electra

Thanks...elektra...I'll let you know I'm still planning a time right now to fly to Michigan...I'll let you know about the referral thing as well once I find out where everyone else in my class will be just to see what they're thinking...most likely I'll stay in the same apartment complex...I've been so busy with Kaplan...

We're almost done... :luck: Did anyone get their rotation schedules yet?

wow you actually found our thread - impressive! I heard alot of people got there schedules already just not those in KC.

see you later

BUMP

where are you guys????????????????????

BUMP

where are you guys????????????????????


BUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!


where are you guys??

they dont appear to be here much :P


i need some help if you can please!

what is the typical class hourly schedule like? do you do class in the morning and then have all afternoon to study or whatever?? are there ever a mix, or ever classes in the afternoon??? id like to try to get into a routine on how i study and exercise and class and all, any help?? please?? details details are great!

thanks!

moving to the Osteo class threads forum...

they dont appear to be here much :P


i need some help if you can please!

what is the typical class hourly schedule like? do you do class in the morning and then have all afternoon to study or whatever?? are there ever a mix, or ever classes in the afternoon??? id like to try to get into a routine on how i study and exercise and class and all, any help?? please?? details details are great!

thanks!

You will have classes 4 days a week in the morning from 8-12. One day a week is dedicated to OMM and physical exam practicing. Your class will be split into two groups.

For your first section which is foundations of medicine most of your afternoons will be free but they will not be free once anatomy is introduced into your schedule. Okay I take back what I said about foundations of medicine - you have all sorts of labs - ie micro lab, core communications classes. I guess you will have about two afternoons free a week. Micro lab only lasts 1 hour and your class is split into 4 groups.

You will get your schedule during orientation week.

Muscle Skeletal section is your second section which is 6 weeks long - Anatomy will take up another afternoon.

Goodluck.

I was wanting to do psych in KC and I was wondering if anyone could help me out with someone that is good to do a rotation in?

I was wanting to do psych in KC and I was wondering if anyone could help me out with someone that is good to do a rotation in?


You might want to go to the 2006 class thread since will just start our rotations in September. I rotate with Truman Med in November with Jarvis. I hear Truman is pretty good.

Apass...good luck... :luck: It was fun as J's party the other day...

Apass...good luck... :luck: It was fun as J's party the other day...


You too buddy. Glad to hear you did well on the USMLE! Kick butt at rotations and keep me posted on things! I will miss our class! Remember Diet Dr. Pepper is not good to chase with BEER :)

Dr. Pepper can only mean one person.... WALMART STORY IS THAT YOU?

Just wanted to get our thread back to the forefront for a little while. Yes, I am that bored right now.

Dr. Pepper...mmm...Diet Doctor Pepper...or the new Diet Cherry Flavored Dr. Pepper...bump this up...Good Luck with rotations...:luck:

This is what you read when your bored...there's always Pre-season football on TV. Apass...good luck and xxAnksxx you too...

Come on MSIII's Let's go show em our stuff.. :)

One more week....

I got lucky....Friday's are essentially free w/my family med doc. We do some colonoscopies in the morning, but we're usually done in 2 hours. I found it surprising/cool that a family med doc still did colonoscopies, I thought that they were usually referred out. Hope everyone is having fun. :)

Current KCUMB students:

I read on the site that KCUMB students have a wide range of states to choose from for their clinical years. Now do you get assigned to those locations randomly, or do you get to kind of pick? Also, does anyone know about the details of the location in Texas? Is it located in a big city like Houston or Austin?

Thanks mucho!!!! :)

Current KCUMB students:

I read on the site that KCUMB students have a wide range of states to choose from for their clinical years. Now do you get assigned to those locations randomly, or do you get to kind of pick? Also, does anyone know about the details of the location in Texas? Is it located in a big city like Houston or Austin?

Thanks mucho!!!! :)

There are tons of places to choose from, some are urban, some are rural. If you stay in KC, you will have a mix and will be commuting a lot. I'm in rural Missouri. There should be a list on the OCCE website. I'm not sure of the URL, but I'm sure someone will find it and post it for you. As for choosing your site, it is done kind of lottery style. You choose your top three and the computer does the best fit match trying to give everyone their top choice. The school talks it up as being a near perfect system, but that is far from the truth. Make sure you ask current students at the sites you are interested in about the nitty gritty details. If there are problems, and they are honest, they will let you know about them. All in all, despite the fact that I didn't get my top choice, I am happy with my site, I just miss my family :(

wbdo

Current KCUMB students:

I read on the site that KCUMB students have a wide range of states to choose from for their clinical years. Now do you get assigned to those locations randomly, or do you get to kind of pick? Also, does anyone know about the details of the location in Texas? Is it located in a big city like Houston or Austin?

Thanks mucho!!!! :)
Hi Shimmerz,

I'm a mere first year, but being from TX, I looked into rotation sites there during our Hospital Day a few weeks ago. There were two sites...one in mesquite and one in Lubbock; however, from what I was told, you can try to get 4th year rotation sites/electives at places in cities you want to be in as long as you can get approval from them.

Not sure I'm the best to give advice on this, but I'm from H-town too, so I thought I'd give you a holler.

Come on MSIII's Let's go show em our stuff.. :)

Are you kidding - is that really a picture of you?!!!

Dave R - I sure do miss you:) I hope you take your clothes out of the dryer and shake them up and at least shower a few times a week:) I miss giving you trouble.

Hope all is well and that you are glad to be back on the east coast!

your buddy.

I got lucky....Friday's are essentially free w/my family med doc. We do some colonoscopies in the morning, but we're usually done in 2 hours. I found it surprising/cool that a family med doc still did colonoscopies, I thought that they were usually referred out. Hope everyone is having fun. :)


Good to see that you are still posting!:)
call you soon

Yeah, I'm on here a lot. I don't know why but I'm addicted to these forums. Talk to you soon. Hope everything is well for everybody.

Good to see that you are still posting!:)
call you soon

Hi everyone! I'm planning on applying for DO schools next year, meanwhile, I have an important question. What's the passing rate at KCUMB? how many people per class fails out of the school each year? Is there a weeding out process even after the crazy admission process? In addition, is it possible to not be able to get a residency position even after graduation?

I really want to become a DO and I really want to go to KCUMB, but I need to gage the workload and exactly how hard is it to finish DO school. So I know what I'm going into and if I can handle it after forking out an insane amount of money.

any input is greatly appreciated

I have some questions about the KCUMB third and fourth year rotations. Do most people end up going off site for their 3d and 4th years? Do you generally stay at the same site both years, or can you switch? Finally, how do they determine who goes where? Is it a blind lottery, or do people with higher grades get the more coveted rotations?

I'd also like to know about the quality of the rotations--what are the most sought after sites? I am from New Jersey and saw there is a Newark rotation at St.Michael's and another one in Stratford. Are those good rotations/hard to get in? Do people there spend much time in New York? How hard are the Florida and Kansas City rotations to get?

Thanks so much!

Hi everyone! I'm planning on applying for DO schools next year, meanwhile, I have an important question. What's the passing rate at KCUMB? how many people per class fails out of the school each year? Is there a weeding out process even after the crazy admission process? In addition, is it possible to not be able to get a residency position even after graduation?

I really want to become a DO and I really want to go to KCUMB, but I need to gage the workload and exactly how hard is it to finish DO school. So I know what I'm going into and if I can handle it after forking out an insane amount of money.

any input is greatly appreciated


The pass rate this year for the COMLEX was 95%. I think we had 7 out of 225 not pass the test. They may get mad at me for saying this but I truely believe this is a reflection of how much work they put into school. I really think that we have had two people fail out and a total of five people leave our class. One left due to an illness and one left and started up in the class of 2008.

Of course you can get a residency after graduation - what kind of question is that - seriously? Do you think the classes would fill every year. KCUMB has joint accrediation - we are the only DO school to have this. We are one of the first if not the first DO schools that require board passage to graduate. Still several do not require this. We have a great curriculm. There are always ongoing improvements to the school - currently building a patient simulater building and will break ground on a new library, fitness center and auditorium.

If the school interviews you then they are interested in you. Unless you really mess something up then you are a likely candidate. DO school is just like any other medical school. What you put into your education is what you get out of it. I know I study alot more than others but that is just me - Yes it is a serious time commitment but if you work hard I would think you will do fine.

Let me know if you have any more questions - the one about residency after graduation - that was annoying - sorry but it was annoying. Maybe I didn't understand your question - let me know.

I have some questions about the KCUMB third and fourth year rotations. Do most people end up going off site for their 3d and 4th years? Do you generally stay at the same site both years, or can you switch? Finally, how do they determine who goes where? Is it a blind lottery, or do people with higher grades get the more coveted rotations?

I'd also like to know about the quality of the rotations--what are the most sought after sites? I am from New Jersey and saw there is a Newark rotation at St.Michael's and another one in Stratford. Are those good rotations/hard to get in? Do people there spend much time in New York? How hard are the Florida and Kansas City rotations to get?

Thanks so much!

Okay so typically about 90 people will stay and rotate in KC. The entire class goes through a lottery process were they chose the top three places they want to go - you match during the beginning of your second year and know by thanksgiving. Most, approx. 95%, get their first choice. I think only three people got their third choice and everyone else matched with no problem. Yes the rotations in NJ and NY are good. Barnabas is a great urban hospital - sure it is not real pretty but I guarentee it will be a good education. I think the site in PA is also great. The rotations are not hard to get you just need to select your top three choices - most get what they want - promise.

You have 10 required rotations your third year and they must be done with an affilated hospital. One rotation is optional - you can choose where and what you want. Fourth year - there are three required, one month family, ER and cardio. The rest of fourth year is up to you - whereever you want to go - the sky is the limit. Most people elect to rotate in the programs they are interested in regardless of AOGME (osteopathic) or ACGME (allopathic programs). If you are in KC then you rotate at various hosptials - so far this year I have been at Research, Childrens and North Kansas City. Those who actually move out of town are typically assoc. with just one hospital. There are definately pros and cons to both.

let me know if you have any other questions. goodluck.

Okay so typically about 90 people will stay and rotate in KC. The entire class goes through a lottery process were they chose the top three places they want to go - you match during the beginning of your second year and know by thanksgiving. Most, approx. 95%, get their first choice. I think only three people got their third choice and everyone else matched with no problem. Yes the rotations in NJ and NY are good. Barnabas is a great urban hospital - sure it is not real pretty but I guarentee it will be a good education. I think the site in PA is also great. The rotations are not hard to get you just need to select your top three choices - most get what they want - promise.

You have 10 required rotations your third year and they must be done with an affilated hospital. One rotation is optional - you can choose where and what you want. Fourth year - there are three required, one month family, ER and cardio. The rest of fourth year is up to you - whereever you want to go - the sky is the limit. Most people elect to rotate in the programs they are interested in regardless of AOGME (osteopathic) or ACGME (allopathic programs). If you are in KC then you rotate at various hosptials - so far this year I have been at Research, Childrens and North Kansas City. Those who actually move out of town are typically assoc. with just one hospital. There are definately pros and cons to both.

let me know if you have any other questions. goodluck.
Thanks for the info. Do you have a list of the affiliated hospitals? I'm really curious to see what all the typical options are.

Thanks for the info. Do you have a list of the affiliated hospitals? I'm really curious to see what all the typical options are.

check out the kcumb website - go to www.kcumb.edu and go to clinical education - it is on the right . Then go to the class of 2007 clerkships and then click affliated core training sites - hope that helps.

:laugh: The pass rate this year for the COMLEX was 95%. I think we had 7 out of 225 not pass the test. They may get mad at me for saying this but I truely believe this is a reflection of how much work they put into school. I really think that we have had two people fail out and a total of five people leave our class. One left due to an illness and one left and started up in the class of 2008.

Of course you can get a residency after graduation - what kind of question is that - seriously? Do you think the classes would fill every year. KCUMB has joint accrediation - we are the only DO school to have this. We are one of the first if not the first DO schools that require board passage to graduate. Still several do not require this. We have a great curriculm. There are always ongoing improvements to the school - currently building a patient simulater building and will break ground on a new library, fitness center and auditorium.

If the school interviews you then they are interested in you. Unless you really mess something up then you are a likely candidate. DO school is just like any other medical school. What you put into your education is what you get out of it. I know I study alot more than others but that is just me - Yes it is a serious time commitment but if you work hard I would think you will do fine.

Let me know if you have any more questions - the one about residency after graduation - that was annoying - sorry but it was annoying. Maybe I didn't understand your question - let me know.

Geez, sounds like somebody just off a rough month of surgery!! :laugh:

:laugh:

Geez, sounds like somebody just off a rough month of surgery!! :laugh:

I know I am a little crabby - normally not so bitchy but I seem to get annoyed easier lately. I tell ya I am soooo tired of seeing the same topics pop up in the osteopathic threads. hope you are doing well. I am really really enjoying orthopedic surgery at OSI - north KC hospital is nice and that program is pretty nice. I like all the residents alot not sure how they feel about another female though. They just took their first female this past year. Don't lose my blueprints:) love you buddy:)

:laugh:

Geez, sounds like somebody just off a rough month of surgery!! :laugh:

I know I am a little crabby - normally not so bitchy but I seem to get annoyed easier lately. I tell ya I am soooo tired of seeing the same topics pop up in the osteopathic threads. hope you are doing well. I am really really enjoying orthopedic surgery at OSI - north KC hospital is nice and that program is pretty nice. I like all the residents alot not sure how they feel about another female though. They just took their first female this past year. Don't lose my blueprints:) love you buddy:)

Just need a place to vent my frustrations about the ****ty education I am getting down here!!! First of all I am about to start my second week of inpatient IM and have so far written a few soap/progress notes and 1 H&P and orders and that is it. I have not seen any procedures or anything worth the time I spend here. My doctors do not show up until around 9am and they leave at around 3pm. They must think that DO students are retarded because they basically give me gold stars for saying my name correctly. I am so frustrated. I feel like averyone else is getting their ass handed to them (in a good way) while I am floating along, trying to teach myself from blueprints etc. Anybody else with this problem. I am just so pissed off at this whole match thing I can't even see straight. I came to KCUMB to go to KCUMB and now I feel like a red headed step child. Not to mention the thousands of dollars I lost moving here and trying to find my husband a new job oh , yeah and the F***ing hurricane that ripped part of my roof off!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: Sorry to be such a baby but I need to get back to california for residency and at the rate I am going I will be lucky to stay in Mobile. :thumbdown

check out the kcumb website - go to www.kcumb.edu and go to clinical education - it is on the right . Then go to the class of 2007 clerkships and then click affliated core training sites - hope that helps.
thanks! that was exactly what I was looking for.

Just need a place to vent my frustrations about the ****ty education I am getting down here!!! First of all I am about to start my second week of inpatient IM and have so far written a few soap/progress notes and 1 H&P and orders and that is it. I have not seen any procedures or anything worth the time I spend here. My doctors do not show up until around 9am and they leave at around 3pm. They must think that DO students are retarded because they basically give me gold stars for saying my name correctly. I am so frustrated. I feel like averyone else is getting their ass handed to them (in a good way) while I am floating along, trying to teach myself from blueprints etc. Anybody else with this problem. I am just so pissed off at this whole match thing I can't even see straight. I came to KCUMB to go to KCUMB and now I feel like a red headed step child. Not to mention the thousands of dollars I lost moving here and trying to find my husband a new job oh , yeah and the F***ing hurricane that ripped part of my roof off!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: Sorry to be such a baby but I need to get back to california for residency and at the rate I am going I will be lucky to stay in Mobile. :thumbdown

Sorry to hear it's going so poorly. Hopefully things will turn around. :thumbup:

any canadian in here?

Just need a place to vent my frustrations about the ****ty education I am getting down here!!! First of all I am about to start my second week of inpatient IM and have so far written a few soap/progress notes and 1 H&P and orders and that is it. I have not seen any procedures or anything worth the time I spend here. My doctors do not show up until around 9am and they leave at around 3pm. They must think that DO students are retarded because they basically give me gold stars for saying my name correctly. I am so frustrated. I feel like averyone else is getting their ass handed to them (in a good way) while I am floating along, trying to teach myself from blueprints etc. Anybody else with this problem. I am just so pissed off at this whole match thing I can't even see straight. I came to KCUMB to go to KCUMB and now I feel like a red headed step child. Not to mention the thousands of dollars I lost moving here and trying to find my husband a new job oh , yeah and the F***ing hurricane that ripped part of my roof off!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: Sorry to be such a baby but I need to get back to california for residency and at the rate I am going I will be lucky to stay in Mobile. :thumbdown

I am sorry things are going badly too. Any other classmates there to maybe help you out? I can't even remember how many of you guys ended up there. I guess you haven't had much help from the Clinical education department. Don't worry to much about the soap notes and H&Ps I didn't write to many on my IM rotation in West Plains and then I got an overkill of it at Children's Mercy. Hang in there.

Just wanted to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Hope everyone is well.

Justin

Nobody ever posts, even though I know we have several lurkers from our class on this website. This is just a bump. How is everyone doing?

Peace out.

I forgot that I even had an account...that's why no one posts...

We're on the final part of our medical school journey...can't believe how fast its gone by. Good Luck people with the match and see you in may.

We're on the final part of our medical school journey...can't believe how fast its gone by. Good Luck people with the match and see you in may.

As someone who is about to start at KCUMB in the Fall, what are your thoughts on the school now that you're almost done? Good Luck to all you KCUMB'ers in the match. :luck:

Yeah I am also intersted in your overall opinion of your education and preparedness for the clinical years? What has been your experience of others impressions of KCUMB. I am guessing that it has a fairly good reputation from what I have heard.

KCUMB gives you a great base...
I wouldn't trade our education in for the world.
But you have to be willing to work at the rest of it...
I was prepared for 3rd year... but i made the most of each month.
I can't wait for graduation.

KCUMB does a good job first 2 years, 3rd and 4th year it depends on your base hospitals...that's about all I have. If you work hard the first 2 years, it's easy last 2 because you just add to what you already know. It's like you read something and don't know what your studying, then clinicals your like, oh I remember reading that...if you have questions PM me or whatever.

As someone who is about to start at KCUMB in the Fall, what are your thoughts on the school now that you're almost done? Good Luck to all you KCUMB'ers in the match. :luck:

these are all excellant questions. Although I feel that I have absolutely no motivation to respond. Most of us 4th yrs are pretty tired well atleast I am. Most of us have less than 40 work days left!!!!!!!!! Hooray!

My thoughts are that KCUMB is a great place to learn but it truly comes down to the effort and motivation you have. KCUMB really provides you with all the tools you need to succeed but you have to use them. In general medical school has been a great adventure. I have met some amazing people at KCUMB. Maybe Sexpanther could comment more if this classmate ever gets on and posts:) I think most of us have senioritis and would rather sit at home and do nothing all day.

I know how excited I was to get started. I really loved it here and glad I came. Goodluck to you!

these are all excellant questions. Although I feel that I have absolutely no motivation to respond. Most of us 4th yrs are pretty tired well atleast I am. Most of us have less than 40 work days left!!!!!!!!! Hooray!

My thoughts are that KCUMB is a great place to learn but it truly comes down to the effort and motivation you have. KCUMB really provides you with all the tools you need to succeed but you have to use them. In general medical school has been a great adventure. I have met some amazing people at KCUMB. Maybe Sexpanther could comment more if this classmate ever gets on and posts:) I think most of us have senioritis and would rather sit at home and do nothing all day.

I know how excited I was to get started. I really loved it here and glad I came. Goodluck to you!

Yes, I'll comment. I swear that I am addicted to this site.

My education has been awesome and I would put it against any curriculum in the country (I told my interviewers at Stanford the same thing, I think they were a little shocked). Pathology is esp. strong (IMO) and if you know path/pathophys it makes everything else easier.

You will be provided a solid base from which to build. As stated previously, a lot does depend on individual effort. I don't care if you're at KCUMB or Johns Hopkins, if you don't study you won't know anything.

3rd/4th year are really dependent on your location (most of the sites seem to be excellent from what I've heard) and once again your personal effort and motivation. I feel as prepared as possible for the reaming that starts in July.

I enjoyed my time at KCUMB immensely, met some awesome friends (apass), worked and played hard.

Good luck in the match everyone! I know apass is ortho, but what about everyone else? I finally decided on gas, but there was a time where I was switching every day.

Peace out.

Yes, I'll comment. I swear that I am addicted to this site.

My education has been awesome and I would put it against any curriculum in the country (I told my interviewers at Stanford the same thing, I think they were a little shocked). Pathology is esp. strong (IMO) and if you know path/pathophys it makes everything else easier.

You will be provided a solid base from which to build. As stated previously, a lot does depend on individual effort. I don't care if you're at KCUMB or Johns Hopkins, if you don't study you won't know anything.

3rd/4th year are really dependent on your location (most of the sites seem to be excellent from what I've heard) and once again your personal effort and motivation. I feel as prepared as possible for the reaming that starts in July.

I enjoyed my time at KCUMB immensely, met some awesome friends (apass), worked and played hard.

Good luck in the match everyone! I know apass is ortho, but what about everyone else? I finally decided on gas, but there was a time where I was switching every day.

Peace out.

Thanks for chiming in apass and SexPanther, esp. the latter for answering all of my PM's.

I'm excited about getting started at KCUMB in the Fall!

looking forward to seeing you guys again in may. seems that a lot of KCUMB people are getting into some really competitive specialties this year. Im hoping and praying for a Neuro categorical or advanced at Mayo Clinic. It'll be cold but the clinic is an amaizing place. Goodluck to all in the match, all the years of had tireless labor is going to pay off with a real job.

later.

looking forward to seeing you guys again in may. seems that a lot of KCUMB people are getting into some really competitive specialties this year. Im hoping and praying for a Neuro categorical or advanced at Mayo Clinic. It'll be cold but the clinic is an amaizing place. Goodluck to all in the match, all the years of had tireless labor is going to pay off with a real job.

later.

Good Luck you All! :luck:

looking forward to seeing you guys again in may. seems that a lot of KCUMB people are getting into some really competitive specialties this year. Im hoping and praying for a Neuro categorical or advanced at Mayo Clinic. It'll be cold but the clinic is an amaizing place. Goodluck to all in the match, all the years of had tireless labor is going to pay off with a real job.

later.

Hey did you check out the clinic's program in Scottsdale, AZ? I spent a month there for CCM (and actually interacted w/neuro residents 2/2 a pt. in status for 2 weeks). That place was super nice....and they have a gas program!

Good luck!

Hey did you check out the clinic's program in Scottsdale, AZ? I spent a month there for CCM (and actually interacted w/neuro residents 2/2 a pt. in status for 2 weeks). That place was super nice....and they have a gas program!

Good luck!

Really you are calling it a gas program - what?!! You are crazy!! That was a very nice comment in your previous post!

Just wanted to say that I completely agree with sexpanther's comments. I feel that I received a great education and really loved it.

Really you are calling it a gas program - what?!! You are crazy!! That was a very nice comment in your previous post!

Just wanted to say that I completely agree with sexpanther's comments. I feel that I received a great education and really loved it.

I am a gas man, anyone who has sat around me long enough knows this;)

I am a gas man, anyone who has sat around me long enough knows this;)

yes i know this but really this is not the way you are going to make a living.:)

Packamylase,
KCUMB was awesome for the first two years just like you have been told. I was STUPID and did not take the core site match seriously. I honestly did not realize that there would be such a disparity between core sites. I had the worst experience in Mobile, AL and then went up to Kettering, OH Grandview core site and realized what I had been missing. It was great and I regret not going to an established CORE site from the beginning. I have since done multiple rotations in California and had no problem keeping up with the big university trained students. I might even end up at UCDavis or OHSU for IM. As previously stated, if you work hard, study, and go to a great core then you will have an excellent education.

Words of advice: 1. Don't blow off path, you will be a superstar if you really study and go to all of ERF's lectures. I think that was definitely a strength of our school. 2.Get involved early in extracurricular activities so that you will have a cake time filling out your residency app/CV. 3.Start making your CV early and add to it every few months so that you won't forget anything you do and it will be easy to compile as a fourth year. 4.Take the USMLE, it will keep all of your doors open. 5. Don't take a month off to study for step 2, just study during a light rotation and get out of school early. I wish I had done that because I have to go to school all the way through april.

Good luck and enjoy the first two years and all the friends that will make!!

Packamylase,
KCUMB was awesome for the first two years just like you have been told. I was STUPID and did not take the core site match seriously. I honestly did not realize that there would be such a disparity between core sites. I had the worst experience in Mobile, AL and then went up to Kettering, OH Grandview core site and realized what I had been missing. It was great and I regret not going to an established CORE site from the beginning. I have since done multiple rotations in California and had no problem keeping up with the big university trained students. I might even end up at UCDavis or OHSU for IM. As previously stated, if you work hard, study, and go to a great core then you will have an excellent education.

Words of advice: 1. Don't blow off path, you will be a superstar if you really study and go to all of ERF's lectures. I think that was definitely a strength of our school. 2.Get involved early in extracurricular activities so that you will have a cake time filling out your residency app/CV. 3.Start making your CV early and add to it every few months so that you won't forget anything you do and it will be easy to compile as a fourth year. 4.Take the USMLE, it will keep all of your doors open. 5. Don't take a month off to study for step 2, just study during a light rotation and get out of school early. I wish I had done that because I have to go to school all the way through april.

Good luck and enjoy the first two years and all the friends that will make!!

Hey great words of advice. I agree with all of them but the last one. I had to take a month off to study. I think too many people take step II too lightly and take a chance on not passing. I get april off as my vacation month I guess you were interviewing all over and took your vacation month early. With the DO match for ortho - I just interviewed while on rotation. Great job on UCDavis and OHSU. I think Tom and Trisha are ranking that too.

Glad things went so much better in Ohio. See you in May!

Congrats to all who matched today; only one more month of stress to those of us who are going allopathic.

Speaking of that, I've heard from several that matched DO that our school has ~50% of the 2007 class participating in the MD match. That's pretty darn high, not saying I blame anyone for avoiding many of the DO residency programs.

I wonder what the admins @ KCUMB think about that.

Congrats again.

Hi everyone!

Long time no post! I was curious how everyone did today and last month. I matched to an ACGME FP program today :D.

I guess we'll all hear the details on Thursday.

Hey guys,

Looking forward to may. Found out today that I fully matched to an ACGME Neurology Residency and Medicine Preliminary year. Can't wait till thursday to find out where I matched. I've been playing the waiting game for too long. See ya all soon.

Hey guys,

Looking forward to may. Found out today that I fully matched to an ACGME Neurology Residency and Medicine Preliminary year. Can't wait till thursday to find out where I matched. I've been playing the waiting game for too long. See ya all soon.

Hi Neurodoc! Congratulations on matching! I really hope you get your first choice. Are you still on the East Coast? My husband saw Rutgers at the end of your message and was so excited to see that someone from RU was at KCUMB....school spirit is high in this household thanks to the recent football record :) (too bad they couldn't win while we were there!!)

As for everyone else, I hope all is well!

Smiles!

Congrats to all who matched today; only one more month of stress to those of us who are going allopathic.

Speaking of that, I've heard from several that matched DO that our school has ~50% of the 2007 class participating in the MD match. That's pretty darn high, not saying I blame anyone for avoiding many of the DO residency programs.

I wonder what the admins @ KCUMB think about that.

Congrats again.

Goodluck to everyone tomorrow! I feel confident that our class will do well. I am very happy in my DO residency program. There are several out there that are great.

Vanderbilt anesthesiology - my #1 choice!!!

I am super pumped!!:thumbup:

I too got my number 1! UMKC Family Medicine at Truman Lakewood :D

prelim med-SUNY Upstate Med University at Syracuse, NY:D
neuro-Thomas Jefferson University at Philadelphia, PA:D

Vanderbilt anesthesiology - my #1 choice!!!

I am super pumped!!:thumbup:

Wow. Congratulations, SexPanther! I'm very happy to hear of your success!

Wow. Congratulations, SexPanther! I'm very happy to hear of your success!


Thanks for the kind words. Good work everyone!!! Apass, congrats on your ortho, you deserve it! You will be awesome. Can't wait to see you on your trauma months at Vandy...........DP wants me to make you cry:laugh:

Neurodoc, sorry you didn't get your #1 but TJU is awesome and you'll make a great neurologist.

Nice job wannabedo on landing your FP spot.

I am going to do IM at University of Nevada-Reno!!!:D
My number three but I wasn't holding much hope out for UCDavis and OHSU.
Congrats to all of you, I think our class has done a great job this year!!!
Vanessa

Hey guys, KCUMB Alum here, just wanting to see how the current class faired in the match. Would you mind posting a complete match list, especiallly those going into gas. CONGRATS all, now get ready to do some real work ;).

contact the school.

is there a gym at KCUMB? If not, does anyone know of one close by?

Hey guys, KCUMB Alum here, just wanting to see how the current class faired in the match. Would you mind posting a complete match list, especiallly those going into gas. CONGRATS all, now get ready to do some real work ;).

Hey Stump, check out the KCUMB Class of 2011 for the 2007 Matchlist. These guys in this thread are superstars apparently!

hey guys sorry to bother you but would you mind sharing some of your favorite memories from the time we were in KC? I'm hoping to put them together for a little something....thanks! :)

I remember sleeping...is that you Dr. S? I remember ERF and his Dead Rock Stars Path Lecture. Or do you mean outside memories...

NeuroDocDO good luck, you'll do well there. Take advantage of Wills Eye...hehe. Talk to you soon.

Hope everyone is doing well, see you soon!

I remember sleeping...is that you Dr. S? I remember ERF and his Dead Rock Stars Path Lecture. Or do you mean outside memories...

NeuroDocDO good luck, you'll do well there. Take advantage of Wills Eye...hehe. Talk to you soon.

Hope everyone is doing well, see you soon!

haha. i was hoping to get input for a something to say at baccalaureate (? sp) ...any ideas on a topic? I'm going to write it this week....for some reason i don't remember the dead rock stars lecture....i do remember hearing "familial mediterannian fever" though!

You can talk about how we all met on SDN. How we all got through Neuro with Stephens and all his epileptic seizure causing arrows. It funny I remember a lot of stuff from my 3rd and 4th year, probably cause I didn't study as much. I remember going to some of our classmates weddings and how they formed their relationships that lead to marriage. I remember how ERF would always talk about how we'd kill a patient instead of, we'd get sued. I remember follies. Are you staying in NJ acura for residency? Congrats on getting married. I remember you mentioned it previously.

When I look back on the first 2 years at KCUMB it really does not feel like it was 2 years at all but a lifetime. Those 2 years were filled with so many new and exciting eperiences that most people probably don't experience in a lifetime. The knowledge we have gained is precious and as we graduate we will take this knowledge and make a difference in the lives of others. We have all survived one of the most difficult challenges that life can offer, but we have become stronger and wiser because of it. Besides participating in follies, studying pathology under ERF, having great KC bbq, hanging out with classmates at the plaza, I will always remember the friendliness and the moral support from the professors and staff of the university. We have more than ourselves to thank for the great accomplishment we are about to make.

Hey peeps, I'm not sure if I'll get a reply to this since I think you're all graduating very soon! (whoo hoo! congrats BTW). But I was hoping someone could chime in on what one really needs to be able to support to get the most out of KCUMBs tech (as far as notes and lectures online, etc etc).

I know very close to nothing about technology, lol, but Im trying to decide what kind of laptop I'll need (I've never had one before!). And if the "benefits" of using a Mac will outway the pain of learning a new system. I know KCUMB sends a system requirements page, but that doesnt tell me if it would be immensely helpful to have other features or if one thing is most important (if having to decide about tradeoffs).

I would REALLY appreciate any help I could get. I dont like to spend $$ unless I know that what Im getting is that best option and value. I'd be willing to spend extra $$ to make my life as easy as possible. I figure I'll have enough headaches in med school; I'd rather technology (or the lack/malfunction thereof) not be one of them if I can help it. THANKS!!

"not one of my students!"

"not one of my students!"

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You can talk about how we all met on SDN. How we all got through Neuro with Stephens and all his epileptic seizure causing arrows. It funny I remember a lot of stuff from my 3rd and 4th year, probably cause I didn't study as much. I remember going to some of our classmates weddings and how they formed their relationships that lead to marriage. I remember how ERF would always talk about how we'd kill a patient instead of, we'd get sued. I remember follies. Are you staying in NJ acura for residency? Congrats on getting married. I remember you mentioned it previously.

hey! I sent you a PM....

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Don't you remember in path lab whenever there was a dumba** move by one of the previously treating physicians, ERF would say, "not one of my students!" as in, he would have taught us better.

i think ERF said "not one of my graduates" he didn't use "students" i don't think.

i think ERF said "not one of my graduates" he didn't use "students" i don't think.

ahh yes, I stand corrected.

Congratulations, class of 2007!! We're so proud of you! Has anyone posted any pics of graduation? We'd love to see them.