08-07-2004, 08:47 AM
How does work? For example, Beaumont has an integrated TY year. Do I have to apply for it on ERAS, or is it given that if you apply and interview for their residency, the TY folks interview you as well? And if not, what happens if you forget to click that box - what happens then?
And, on that note, how do the heck do you know if they have an integrated prelim? I guess that MSKCC and MDA and Beaumont are the ones that I know that have them. Any others?
I have never been so clueless in an application process as I am with the match. It's unbelievable how little the software helps you. It should say - "If you apply to _______ residency program, you will also be applying to the ______ prelim program as well. Please select 'OK' to continue."
Thanks in advance,
08-07-2004, 12:39 PM
There are programs that require you to do your prelim year there, such as Beaumont, Univ Michigan, Emory...these are considered 5-year integrated programs. Then you have programs that offer a prelim year that focuses on oncology, such as MDA and MSKCC.
For the ones that are true 5-year programs, you just apply for the rad onc program and if you match there, you're set for your prelim year...no need to apply separately. From personal experience interviewing at Beaumont...no, you don't need to apply separately....comes in a package so to speak.
The best way to find out which programs are 5-year integrated is to look at their website or ask them directly. If you filter through this forum, I believe there is a list somewhere on which ones these are.
08-08-2004, 08:03 AM
I have found this to b confusing as well. There seems like several programs that just "throw in the prelim year" if accepted to their program. I get that impression from places like Yale and Kaiser LA. I see that Cleveland Clinic has a bundled "flexible med-surg" intern year
Internal Medicine - 3 months
Hematology Oncology - 2 months
Urology - 1 months
Head & Neck Surgery - 1 month
Radiology / Pathology - 1 month
Gynecologic Oncology - 1 month
Colorectal Surgery - 1 month
Palliative Medicine - 1 month
Emergency Medicine - 1 month
I think University of Oregon has a similar program, at least I see their previous trainees list a med-surg internship. I think this is similar to the MSKCC program. As this is all new to me I can only give you my antedotal experience so far.
08-19-2004, 05:49 AM
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but from interviewing last year, I don't think the Yale program is a required 5-year program.
Like Thaiger wrote, the MSKCC and MDACC prelim programs are not required. For a person who wants to learn all about onc (and don't care as much about the other general medicine stuff), these are great programs (at least on paper). Buffalo also has a similar transitional program that I was impressed by.
08-19-2004, 07:07 AM
Correct, Yale is only a regular 4-yr program.