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Yay, medic! I'm so happy to be accepted at MSU!! I shadowed at the student OMM clinic several times and I got to meet some students and teachers, I just loved Kathie Schafer and Lorie Culham as well.

Well, I don't want to gush too much, because I know it can be kind of sickening, but suffice it to say...I feel really positive about MSU! :luck:

Yay, medic! I'm so happy to be accepted at MSU!! I shadowed at the student OMM clinic several times and I got to meet some students and teachers, I just loved Kathie Schafer and Lorie Culham as well.

Well, I don't want to gush too much, because I know it can be kind of sickening, but suffice it to say...I feel really positive about MSU! :luck:

We have worked hard to make it into one of the best medical schools in the nation. It's ok to "gush" IMHO! :D

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Yes, I'm still on a high from this morning! This has been a great day for me! That was so wierd yesterday when you were asking me about calling MSU-and then you went out and checked your mail and your acceptance letter was there! :D

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Yes, I'm still on a high from this morning! This has been a great day for me! That was so wierd yesterday when you were asking me about calling MSU-and then you went out and checked your mail and your acceptance letter was there! :D


I know. they said they called me last Wednesday, but somehow I missed the message. At this point, I don't care because me dream is comming true!! :D :eek:

Hey all, Just wanted to say CONGRATULATIONS! I had a tough decision last year, but decided to attend MSU-CHM. I spend many hours with COM peeps each day. Get ready to hit the books hardcore. (I'm studying biochem at 10:30pm on a Friday night). I really wish you guys the best. Try to get out and do some big things before next fall. You will have free time, but not enough to do anything to great. Exams every Monday at 7:30am come pretty early in the morning...

Congrats! :thumbup:

I may have to make the same decision this year...

Thanks for the congrats! :thumbup:

COM is a better program:). Why do I think this? Take the following as an example-- My friend who is a second year here at COM has a boyfriend who is a second year in CHM. He was over in Fee Hall (COM land) and somebody talked to him! He couldn't believe it...everybody was so friendly! He was saying that it's the exact opposite at CHM.

This was an aspect of the programs that was immensely important to me. I want to graduate with colleagues who are also good friends...not just colleagues. Not only that but the family atmosphere makes your time in school so much more enjoyable.

CMUDAN, I don't intend to rip on your program here. It may very well be that you are experiencing just as much camraderie (or maybe even more) as I am. That would, however, be inconsistent with what I've seen and heard. So, I'm just giving my opinion here...

Thank you for the opinion :thumbup:

So far I have been treated somewhat casually at MSUCHM -but have recieved great warmth from MSUCOM

I would agree with you about your program. COMers are very friendly (most) and seem more down to earth than some CHM people. You guys have great comradarie overall, more than us I would say...but CHM is a friendly student body and we are not competitive with each other. If it was a cut throat atmosphere I would not have choosen CHM. I think that COM student perspective is a little off, but I understand why you think that. I hate stuffy people that are arrogant. I am not one and neither are my CHM friends. But I do agree that COM is a great program!

Congratulations, everyone! I am a first year at COM, and it is awesome (albeit a TON of work). CHM is a good school, too, but it has a very different culture than COM. PM if you have any questions!

Well, I just found out I have an interview at MSUCHM Oct. 28th-and while I am excited-I'm worried because I have not been able to get to know the students or school environment there (like I have at COM). At COM I was able to hang out with students-including an MS1 that I met on SDN-I shadowed at the student OMM clinic-and got a good feel what the school would be like.

Its hard to get a good feel from just one day of tour and interviews - does anyone have any advice for me (about how to meet some CHM students and get a feel for the school?)

Congratulations, everyone! I am a first year at COM, and it is awesome (albeit a TON of work). CHM is a good school, too, but it has a very different culture than COM. PM if you have any questions!
Culture? I am just curious how we are perceived by the DO students. Can you explain Stacey?

I am actually just really curious, CAn you expand upon that? (I am not going to get mad or upset).

As far as getting to know CHM students shelley, you could ask to stay with a student overnight the night before your interview. You will get a pretty good feel at the interview i think though, we do have a social hour where you just sit and talk casually with current students.

PS. I cant believe CHM is getting a slightly bad rap on this forum. We are easily the most down to earth, non-competitive MD school in the state. Go figure...

hey, i did not mean to imply "different culture" in a bad way... just in a different way. and i absolutely agree with you that CHM is one of the most down to earth MD schools. i think that the general consensus amongst commies is that the people in CHM are more hard core than COM. maybe a little bit more serious? we definitely dont think of you guys negatively, though! i apologize if my post came off in that tone. i have a bunch of friends in CHM, and they rock! hope that clarifies everything? and hope you kicked some booty on the anatomy exam!




Culture? I am just curious how we are perceived by the DO students. Can you explain Stacey?

I am actually just really curious, CAn you expand upon that? (I am not going to get mad or upset).

As far as getting to know CHM students shelley, you could ask to stay with a student overnight the night before your interview. You will get a pretty good feel at the interview i think though, we do have a social hour where you just sit and talk casually with current students.

PS. I cant believe CHM is getting a slightly bad rap on this forum. We are easily the most down to earth, non-competitive MD school in the state. Go figure...

Culture? I am just curious how we are perceived by the DO students. Can you explain Stacey?

I am actually just really curious, CAn you expand upon that? (I am not going to get mad or upset).

As far as getting to know CHM students shelley, you could ask to stay with a student overnight the night before your interview. You will get a pretty good feel at the interview i think though, we do have a social hour where you just sit and talk casually with current students.

PS. I cant believe CHM is getting a slightly bad rap on this forum. We are easily the most down to earth, non-competitive MD school in the state. Go figure...

Thanks for the advice! I live about 2 miles away from campus and I don't think the travel time is going to kill me-even if I ended up walking there in high heels ( :laugh: )-so I probably won't ask to spend the night at a students house-(they might think I was a little wierd).

I guess I will just talk to the students during lunch and try to get a feeling from that. The reason I'm asking about the difference between COM's and CHM's atmosphere is because I have several friends who attend COM, but my mother attended CHM (graduated 8 years ago)-and I have very specific memories of what medical school was like for her (she was incredibly stressed out at the time)-and from her experiences I know that CHM is noncompetetive and will bend over backwards to help you get through medical school... on the other side-this is true of COM as well, and I have also heard from 3 people (2 attending COM and 1 attending CHM) that COM students seem to be more connected and friendly with each other-of course this is not a big survey :rolleyes: ALso the fact that Kathie Schafer is so warm to all the students at COM-and that my interviewer was very nice has been a big plus for me.

I'll probably end up going where I think I would feel most comfortable-I'm just hoping to get a realistic sense of that on interview day. Thanks everyone for their advice-I shouldn't worry, either way I'll be happy attending either school :luck:

Medic170,

Thank you for setting up this thread and congratulations on your acceptance at MSUCOM. Althought new to this site, I have found a lot of helpful information. I have received letters of acceptance from AZCOM, UNECOM, and MSUCOM. I really loved MSUCOM's program as well as the candor / amiability of the students, staff, and faculty. It is a very easy decision for me, as MSUCOM is the right fit. I am very excited to be a member of the 2009 class.

Medic170,

Thank you for setting up this thread and congratulations on your acceptance at MSUCOM. Althought new to this site, I have found a lot of helpful information. I have received letters of acceptance from AZCOM, UNECOM, and MSUCOM. I really loved MSUCOM's program as well as the candor / amiability of the students, staff, and faculty. It is a very easy decision for me, as MSUCOM is the right fit. I am very excited to be a member of the 2009 class.

Welcome. I look forward to studying with you.

Its a win-win situation! Both schools are excellent, and Im sure you would be happy at either. Other than the philosophies behind the education, our rockin OMM class, and few other more superficial differences, I think that they are fairly equal. Good luck!



I guess I will just talk to the students during lunch and try to get a feeling from that. The reason I'm asking about the difference between COM's and CHM's atmosphere is because I have several friends who attend COM, but my mother attended CHM (graduated 8 years ago)-and I have very specific memories of what medical school was like for her (she was incredibly stressed out at the time)-and from her experiences I know that CHM is noncompetetive and will bend over backwards to help you get through medical school... on the other side-this is true of COM as well, and I have also heard from 3 people (2 attending COM and 1 attending CHM) that COM students seem to be more connected and friendly with each other-of course this is not a big survey :rolleyes: ALso the fact that Kathie Schafer is so warm to all the students at COM-and that my interviewer was very nice has been a big plus for me.

I'll probably end up going where I think I would feel most comfortable-I'm just hoping to get a realistic sense of that on interview day. Thanks everyone for their advice-I shouldn't worry, either way I'll be happy attending either school :luck:

Thanks, Stacey! :)

I would like to have some OMM sometime. I heard there is an elective...any truth to that for us CHMers?

Congrats to the folks getting in! See you when you get here. (prepare for some pain ;))

there absolutely are OMM electives. the specific one that i am thinking of runs over the noon hour. not sure how a CHMer would go about signing up for it, but i dont see why it cant be done. if you are interested in any rehabilitation med, muscular or orthopedic, i totally recommend learning some OMM. its seriously amazing what you can do.


I would like to have some OMM sometime. I heard there is an elective...any truth to that for us CHMers?

Yes, you can take OMM electives at CHM-my mom went to CHM not too long ago and mentioned that possibility.

Congratulations some more newly accepted students (who posted in the accepted thread). I'm bumping this thread up for you :thumbup:

Yes, you can take OMM electives at CHM-my mom went to CHM not too long ago and mentioned that possibility.

Congratulations some more newly accepted students (who posted in the accepted thread). I'm bumping this thread up for you :thumbup:

Sure seems to be getting lonely on this thread, where are all my future classmates?

There don't seem to be many people on SDN who have applied to Michigan medical schools.

Oh well, all we can do is keep bumping up this thread (casting the bait)... :D

There don't seem to be many people on SDN who have applied to Michigan medical schools.

Oh well, all we can do is keep bumping up this thread (casting the bait)... :D

Hi guys,

I will be there next year, I am excited. I am at MSU for undergrad and I love it.

Where do you all plan on living, that is the only thing I have left to figure out.

There don't seem to be many people on SDN who have applied to Michigan medical schools.

Oh well, all we can do is keep bumping up this thread (casting the bait)... :D

Keep in mind that you have been accepted pretty early in the game. You'll find more MSUCOMer's trickle in as spring approaches.

Congratulations to all of you who are in already and good luck to those of you who wish to be!

Mmm hmm...thats true that more people could find SDN after they get accepted to MSU. I just meant that there aren't that many people who have noted they were invited to an MSU interview on the allopathic and osteopathic forums. :D

Mmm hmm...thats true that more people could find SDN after they get accepted to MSU. I just meant that there aren't that many people who have noted they were invited to an MSU interview on the allopathic and osteopathic forums. :D

I was accepted to the CHM program.... I am looking forward to having class with you guys next fall! :) There doesn't seem to be too many people on SDN who applied to MSU... but, i guess time will tell...

I was also wondering about housing. I have been checking out places on rent.com. This is probably a stupid question, but if it lists $500 for a 2 person apartment, does that mean $500/person or $500 total?

Does MSU send out a personality survey to try and match people for roommates? Do they send out anything on where to stay?

On a side note, I think I stayed the night with cmudan the night of my interview on the 30th...??

Hey Funstuff! So you are definitely decided on MSUCHM? Thats awesome!
In answer to your question, $500 for a 2 person apartment means the total rent is 500/month-and if you had a roommate you would each pay 250. I don't know about those other housing questions...you should ask MSU directly.


On a side note for those who were accepted to MSUCOM-they sent me an email today stating that the admissions letter they sent us had a typo on it...instead of having until Nov. 12th to make a decision and come up with a deposit, we actually have until Dec. 15th (which follows the AACOM admissions guidelines for medical schools). So thats good...gives us more time to come up with the money, interview at other schools, and make our final decision. :thumbup:

i'm reasonably sure... i have canceled my other interviews (except iowa... i am still trying to decide on them- i did research there this summer and have friends there...). I really don't think I want to go out of state though because of high tuition and my girlfriend is here.... and my mother is sick, so I would like to stay close to her. I am pretty sure I prefer MSU over wayne. I have consitently gotten a better vibe from students there.

I have never rented an apartment and have always been in dorms (as you can tell).... on average, how much are utilities for you during summer and winter?

Thanks! :)


Hey Funstuff! So you are definitely decided on MSUCHM? Thats awesome!
In answer to your question, $500 for a 2 person apartment means the total rent is 500/month-and if you had a roommate you would each pay 250. I don't know about those other housing questions...you should ask MSU directly.


On a side note for those who were accepted to MSUCOM-they sent me an email today stating that the admissions letter they sent us had a typo on it...instead of having until Nov. 12th to make a decision and come up with a deposit, we actually have until Dec. 15th (which follows the AACOM admissions guidelines for medical schools). So thats good...gives us more time to come up with the money, interview at other schools, and make our final decision. :thumbup:

I'm not the one to be asking about utilities. I lived on solar power and water from a waterfall for the past six years, and I'm lucky enough to not be paying rent at the moment. Sorry :o

I'm not the one to be asking about utilities. I lived on solar power and water from a waterfall for the past six years, and I'm lucky enough to not be paying rent at the moment. Sorry :o

Awesome... so where do I sign up for this deal?!? ;)

Awesome... so where do I sign up for this deal?!? ;)

Well, the solar power and waterfall water is back in Hawaii. :( The free rent I'm getting at the moment is called "Mom" :laugh: :laugh:

Well, the solar power and waterfall water is back in Hawaii. :( The free rent I'm getting at the moment is called "Mom" :laugh: :laugh:

phone number?! ;)

phone number?! ;)

Awww...your so cute, I just asked my mom, and she said it would be OK for you to stay in the garage. It sure is going to be nice to have a roomie-that garage doesn't get very warmed up with only one body :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Awww...your so cute, I just asked my mom, and she said it would be OK for you to stay in the garage. It sure is going to be nice to have a roomie-that garage doesn't get very warmed up with only one body :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

hahaha! awesome! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :laugh:

I was on the wait list for the class of 2008 and didn't get in this year but was guaranteed a spot for the class of 2009. I just sent in my $500 and can't wait to get started.

I know this may seem cheesy but would anyone in the Lansing area like to get together for a pre-medical school celebration?

I would love to get together with everyone to celebrate! Thats a great idea. I would be fun to meet everyone! I also wanted to walk around the campus a little more too.

I will let this message simmer a little bit to see if anyone else is interested and then set up a time in the next few weeks.

I think it would be nice to get to know people before classes start and we have no time for socializing.

I will let this message simmer a little bit to see if anyone else is interested and then set up a time in the next few weeks.

I think it would be nice to get to know people before classes start and we have no time for socializing.

My wife and I would like to go out drinkin' ;)

I was on the wait list for the class of 2008 and didn't get in this year but was guaranteed a spot for the class of 2009. I just sent in my $500 and can't wait to get started.

I know this may seem cheesy but would anyone in the Lansing area like to get together for a pre-medical school celebration?

Doesn't sound cheesy at all (although I'm not sure that I'm quite ready to give away my "secret web identity")! JK, count me in too! :D

Doesn't sound cheesy at all (although I'm not sure that I'm quite ready to give away my "secret web identity")! JK, count me in too! :D

Count me in, that sounds like fun. Are we talking going to a bar or having like a BBQ or something else?

Count me in, that sounds like fun. Are we talking going to a bar or having like a BBQ or something else?


Hpefully a bar :D :cool:

Hpefully a bar :D :cool:

I too was thinking a bar/restaurant. Things are so unpredictable this time of year it will be better to get inside. I was thinking either Beggar's Banquet (right on campus) or Claddagh's Irish Pub in the Eastwood Towne Center. I like these because they have 1. Good Drinks 2. Good Food 3. Festive Atmosphere.

Well since I brought it up I'll make a suggestion. Lets say Beggars on Friday, Nov 5th at 9:00p.m. What do you guys think? I'll be there!!

Scott

I too was thinking a bar/restaurant. Things are so unpredictable this time of year it will be better to get inside. I was thinking either Beggar's Banquet (right on campus) or Claddagh's Irish Pub in the Eastwood Towne Center. I like these because they have 1. Good Drinks 2. Good Food 3. Festive Atmosphere.

Well since I brought it up I'll make a suggestion. Lets say Beggars on Friday, Nov 5th at 9:00p.m. What do you guys think? I'll be there!!

Scott

Sorry, I work on Fridays. Any other night would work for me though. (After this weekend because I have plans for Holloween! :scared: )

Sorry, I work on Fridays. Any other night would work for me though. (After this weekend because I have plans for Holloween! :scared: )
I know it will be difficult to get a date that is acceptable to everyone. How about Saturday Nov 6th at 9:00?

If it is as fun as I think it will be we could do another one down the road and pick up some additional people.

Saturday, Nov 6th 9:00pm Beggars---Are you comin?

I know it will be difficult to get a date that is acceptable to everyone. How about Saturday Nov 6th at 9:00?

If it is as fun as I think it will be we could do another one down the road and pick up some additional people.

Saturday, Nov 6th 9:00pm Beggars---Are you comin?



I can do that :thumbup:

I know it will be difficult to get a date that is acceptable to everyone. How about Saturday Nov 6th at 9:00?

If it is as fun as I think it will be we could do another one down the road and pick up some additional people.

Saturday, Nov 6th 9:00pm Beggars---Are you comin?

I can stop by...I won't be able to stay long, tho, because I'll be working early in the morning.

PS-Where exactly are we going to meet? At the bar? (Seems like the logical choice... :D ) I don't know if I'll be able to recognize accepted medical students unless we come dressed as a herd of black and blue suits like we did in our interviews! :laugh:

I can stop by...I won't be able to stay long, tho, because I'll be working early in the morning.

PS-Where exactly are we going to meet? At the bar? (Seems like the logical choice... :D ) I don't know if I'll be able to recognize accepted medical students unless we come dressed as a herd of black and blue suits like we did in our interviews! :laugh:

I will make a sign the says MSUCOM 2009 or something similar. I agree we should meet in the "bar" area. There is an area in front of the bar, on the right as you walk into the place that I will try to grab. I'm planning on going over there this week and try to work out a reservation for that area for us. I hope people can make it, bring your friends/girlfriends/boyfriends/significant others too!

bring your friends/girlfriends/boyfriends/significant others too!


umm, and wives. Yes, some of us are old and married :D

I will try and be there at 9 pm, Saturday. Looking forward to meeting everyone!

My first post as a future medical school student! :eek:
Got the phone call this morning, I don't think it's really hit me yet...but I hope I'll be sitting down when it does! :D
Now I can really relax for the rest of my interviews and just enjoy visiting great schools and new places. Whew!

Congratulations to you!!!! :hardy: :clap: :hardy:

You should come to the MSUCOM get together some of us SDNers are having this Saturday night at Beggars Banquet (9 pm).

Hope to see you there! :thumbup:

Congratulations to you!!!! :hardy: :clap: :hardy:

You should come to the MSUCOM get together some of us SDNers are having this Saturday night at Beggars Banquet (9 pm).

Hope to see you there! :thumbup:
I wish! It would be awesome! I haven't been out for a couple weeks now.
But...I'm a Cali resident, so it's a bit of a trip. Once I'm there in the fall I'll have a chance to join the class!
Have fun you guys! Drink some for me! :thumbup:

We'll do that!

I invited a first year student to come to our get together. He helped me throughout the application process and is a reallly cool guy. He's planning on telling us a little more what the first year is like. I hope this is alright with everyone.

I invited a first year student to come to our get together. He helped me throughout the application process and is a reallly cool guy. He's planning on telling us a little more what the first year is like. I hope this is alright with everyone.

That's great!! I hope he won't mind my million questions. JK. I stopped by Beggars last night with the hopes of working something out with the manager, but the bar was closed for a private party. I will try again tonight. I did see the area immediately to the right as you walk into the bar. I will try to get a spot there. Again, I will have a couple MSUCOM 2009 signs so look for those or just ask the bartender or host/hostess, I will let them know where we are. See you guys there at 9:00 tomorrow.

That's great!! I hope he won't mind my million questions. JK. I stopped by Beggars last night with the hopes of working something out with the manager, but the bar was closed for a private party. I will try again tonight. I did see the area immediately to the right as you walk into the bar. I will try to get a spot there. Again, I will have a couple MSUCOM 2009 signs so look for those or just ask the bartender or host/hostess, I will let them know where we are. See you guys there at 9:00 tomorrow.

Looking forward to it!

See you guys tommorrow. I may even have a few drinks (a rare occurence for me :D )

What happened? I went to Beggar's and there was nobody there with any sign at 9:15, and the hostess knew nothing about any MSUCOM get together :( Oh well, we went down to BW3 and had a great time anyway.

Hey Medic,
Did you ever show up yesterday? I took off about 10 pm after having only one long island :(

Edit, I just read your post.
We got there about 9 pm and looked around. They were kind of in the back (not in the smoky room where the band plays.)

Hey Medic,
Did you ever show up yesterday? I took off about 10 pm after having only one long island :(

Edit, I just read your post.
We got there about 9 pm and looked around. They were kind of in the back (not in the smoky room where the band plays.)


Well, I tried. I did not see any signs and the hostess had no idea about where you were. Were there a lot of people that showed? What did you guys talk about?

Well, I tried. I did not see any signs and the hostess had no idea about where you were. Were there a lot of people that showed? What did you guys talk about?

Sorry you missed us. I got there at 8:00 and tried to let people in the restaurant know. I told the host and the bartender and had made signs (that were on the tables). The host told me he would keep an eye out for people. I apologize for not getting the word out better.

There were seven people there I think, three were starting next year and two who have already started this year and will graduate with us in 2009 (they are on the extended program).

We talked about alot of issues ranging from being shirtless in OMM to getting into residency. I just found it comforting to talk to someone who is in the thick of it right now and still seems sane. I think the best advice I got was to take some time off in the next year and do something I want to do, travel, relax....sleep. It may be one of the last times I have the luxury.

Sorry you missed us. I got there at 8:00 and tried to let people in the restaurant know. I told the host and the bartender and had made signs (that were on the tables). The host told me he would keep an eye out for people. I apologize for not getting the word out better.

There were seven people there I think, three were starting next year and two who have already started this year and will graduate with us in 2009 (they are on the extended program).

We talked about alot of issues ranging from being shirtless in OMM to getting into residency. I just found it comforting to talk to someone who is in the thick of it right now and still seems sane. I think the best advice I got was to take some time off in the next year and do something I want to do, travel, relax....sleep. It may be one of the last times I have the luxury.


We should do it again around January, when most of the class is filled, and make sure we all know exactly where to go.

I agree it would be nice to meet again in January.

I will be there, I'd love to do it again!


and make sure we all know exactly where to go.

Alright, next time I guess we should get an estimated head count and reserve a spot. Without knowing if five or twenty people were coming really limited the bars ability to accommodate us.

Hello all,

I interviewed at MSUCOM on 10/28/04 and received an acceptance call from Kathy 11/02/04. I had interviewed at two other schools, DMU and LECOM. But I loved my experience at MSU. However, I am from chicago and am still waiting to hear from a few schools around here, but it will still be a tough decision as I really liked MSUCOM, but would like to stay closer to freinds and family. The students and faculty were extremely friendly and I felt the school had much to offer. Either way, staying closer to home or being at MSUCOM, I think I will be happy. Coming from a big city like chicago, whats the night life like out here? I stayed at a hotel in okemos on my interview, and saw only farms on my way to the school.

Hello all,

I interviewed at MSUCOM on 10/28/04 and received an acceptance call from Kathy 11/02/04. I had interviewed at two other schools, DMU and LECOM. But I loved my experience at MSU. However, I am from chicago and am still waiting to hear from a few schools around here, but it will still be a tough decision as I really liked MSUCOM, but would like to stay closer to freinds and family. The students and faculty were extremely friendly and I felt the school had much to offer. Either way, staying closer to home or being at MSUCOM, I think I will be happy. Coming from a big city like chicago, whats the night life like out here? I stayed at a hotel in okemos on my interview, and saw only farms on my way to the school.

There are 44,000 students here, there is no shortage of clubs, bars, or parties.

Oh and no summer break? eeekkk?! There must be some time off between the years?

Hello all,

I interviewed at MSUCOM on 10/28/04 and received an acceptance call from Kathy 11/02/04. I had interviewed at two other schools, DMU and LECOM. But I loved my experience at MSU. However, I am from chicago and am still waiting to hear from a few schools around here, but it will still be a tough decision as I really liked MSUCOM, but would like to stay closer to freinds and family. The students and faculty were extremely friendly and I felt the school had much to offer. Either way, staying closer to home or being at MSUCOM, I think I will be happy. Coming from a big city like chicago, whats the night life like out here? I stayed at a hotel in okemos on my interview, and saw only farms on my way to the school.

There is tons to do here, you just came in from the farm side. In fact, one of the issues MSUCOM students have is finding a quiet apartment near school (they are all occupied by rowdy undergrads, it seems).

Did you apply to CCOM as well? If I were you I would probably go there as it has awesome rotations, and would be close to home for you, the main reason I would attend there is $$$-cheaper at CCOM for you. :luck: However, you can't go wrong with MSUCOM, it is a superb school, and you should be pleased to have an acceptance there.

Oh and no summer break? eeekkk?! There must be some time off between the years?

I think they are trying to give some more time between the years. I don't think it will be implemented by next year, though. My interviewer, Dr. Gorbis, was telling me about this issue.

Currently, students get a month off in summer, a month off in December, spring break, and other times that eventually amounts to about a summer off.

Yea, I did apply to CCOM, so im still waiting to hear from them but from what I have heard and seen MSU seems great. MSU also started to offer a 15000 a year scholarship for out of state students so that should help as well if I decide to come...so who knows, we shall see what happens.

If you're used to living in Chicago, coming to East Lansing will be like coming to hick town. Yeah, it is heavily populated with alot of students and is buzzing with activity but it's really not comparable to the environment of a city like Chicago.

That being said, it is a college city and this means that there is considerable commerce geared at serving the younger population...and it's all within 10 min. of the school. I like it alot.

Yea, I did apply to CCOM, so im still waiting to hear from them but from what I have heard and seen MSU seems great. MSU also started to offer a 15000 a year scholarship for out of state students so that should help as well if I decide to come...so who knows, we shall see what happens.
Yeah, that scholarship! I need that! :laugh:
Seriously, I do, but I haven't really gotten a good answer from MSU regarding that award. Has anyone heard anything about it? What are my chances of getting it? I'm a Cali resident, so I got the out-of-state thing covered, but what else do I need to be considered, ummmm...other than my FAFSA.

If you're used to living in Chicago, coming to East Lansing will be like coming to hick town. Yeah, it is heavily populated with alot of students and is buzzing with activity but it's really not comparable to the environment of a city like Chicago.

That being said, it is a college city and this means that there is considerable commerce geared at serving the younger population...and it's all within 10 min. of the school. I like it alot.

If you get really home sick for the big city, its only about an hour and a half to downtown Detroit. The Lansing metroplex has a pop of about 500,000 I think, but the Detroit area is much closer to the size of Chicago.

Hey all. Just wanted to say congrats for your acceptances. I too will be attending MSU next Fall to become an official member of the 2009 class. I am really excited. Where is everyone from? How many of you are Michigan residents, and how may are from out of state? :)

Hey all. Just wanted to say congrats for your acceptances. I too will be attending MSU next Fall to become an official member of the 2009 class. I am really excited. Where is everyone from? How many of you are Michigan residents, and how may are from out of state? :)

Welcome and congrats. To answer your ?; I am from East Lansing.

Hey all. Just wanted to say congrats for your acceptances. I too will be attending MSU next Fall to become an official member of the 2009 class. I am really excited. Where is everyone from? How many of you are Michigan residents, and how may are from out of state? :)

i'm from the small town of whitehall, michigan........ westside

i'm from the small town of whitehall, michigan........ westside

Hmmm...what city is that near? Its not in the muskegon area by chance?

Hmmm...what city is that near? Its not in the muskegon area by chance?

yes, actually it is about 10 miles north of muskegon.

yes, actually it is about 10 miles north of muskegon.

I knew it! I used to go to Blue Lake music camp every summer-I think the closest town is Whitehall! Fond memories of that area. Great summers.

To all those in-staters: Being that out-of-staters make up such a small percentage of the incoming classes to MSU-COM, should I expect to receive raised eyebrows or open arms if coming from Southern California? :scared:

To all those in-staters: Being that out-of-staters make up such a small percentage of the incoming classes to MSU-COM, should I expect to receive raised eyebrows or open arms if coming from Southern California? :scared:

Why would anyone care that you are from So. Cal. ?

Why would anyone care that you are from So. Cal. ?

Overall, I do not believe that they would. However, when visiting I did get a lot of "well, you are far from home." This is true, but in the context within which it was said, it did make me feel a bit isolated from the mostly Michigan group.

Overall, I do not believe that they would. However, when visiting I did get a lot of "well, you are far from home." This is true, but in the context within which it was said, it did make me feel a bit isolated from the mostly Michigan group.


I don't think anyone will raise eyebrows at you. I am sure you will be VERY welcome. ;)

doesn't matter where you are from, you'll all go through the same sh*t first term. only difference regarding where you are from is where you go home to for the holidays. a friend of mine in school is from washington state, and that makes little difference to me other than he bitches about the weather alot ;) there are lots of little islands of people in each class that know one another, a good example is the msu undergrad crowd whom have know one another for awhile. you'll meet plenty of nice people at school, thats probably why you got accepted in the first place. trust me, the atmosphere is overly friendly at msu, no worries

doesn't matter where you are from, you'll all go through the same sh*t first term. only difference regarding where you are from is where you go home to for the holidays. a friend of mine in school is from washington state, and that makes little difference to me other than he bitches about the weather alot ;) there are lots of little islands of people in each class that know one another, a good example is the msu undergrad crowd whom have know one another for awhile. you'll meet plenty of nice people at school, thats probably why you got accepted in the first place. trust me, the atmosphere is overly friendly at msu, no worries

This is true.

Hey O Irish-Michigan is a pretty open minded place, don't worry.

I knew it! I used to go to Blue Lake music camp every summer-I think the closest town is Whitehall! Fond memories of that area. Great summers.

Yup, your exactly right. Whitehall is a fun... but small town. I too went to blue lake fine arts camp a couple summers in a row. What years were you there?

Yup, your exactly right. Whitehall is a fun... but small town. I too went to blue lake fine arts camp a couple summers in a row. What years were you there?

Hmmm...let me see, I went there consecutively from 1986 to 1992. My mother taught piano there during the suzuki camp. I went for piano mostly, and drama two years in a row (1991 and 1992). I think there is an age difference between us of a couple of years, so unless you went to the suzuki camp I don't think we would have seen each other.

Hmmm...let me see, I went there consecutively from 1986 to 1992. My mother taught piano there during the suzuki camp. I went for piano mostly, and drama two years in a row (1991 and 1992). I think there is an age difference between us of a couple of years, so unless you went to the suzuki camp I don't think we would have seen each other.

heh, yeah... i went there the summers of 1996 and 1997 for band.

By the way, Funstuff, how is the decision process coming along between Wayne State and CHM?

I decided to use post number 1000 to say.... MSU rocks!

(SDN rocks, too!) :horns:


Since I can't smash a guitar, I'll just have to smash a...
+pissed+

I have been accepted to MSUCOM 2009. I have been on the fence between UNECOM and MSUCOM :scared: I am drawn to both schools!!! Geez, before I have an ulcer about it... I want to know. Is it only me who feels a little intimidated by the size of the school :confused: I have never been to a big college and while I think it would be really exciting... it's a little scary. UNECOM is much smaller and seems like more of a family. What do you all think? Should I toughen' up and just do the damn thing?
All mixed up... 12/15/04 deadline looming. THANKS! :love:

To all those in-staters: Being that out-of-staters make up such a small percentage of the incoming classes to MSU-COM, should I expect to receive raised eyebrows or open arms if coming from Southern California? :scared:
Hey, no worries, I've been accepted and I'm a SoCal native and resident. We've already got something in common, and I'm sure there will be others from the West and East Coasts. Not one of the group that I was with even batted an eye when I mentioned I was from Cali, I'm sure things will be great. :D

[QUOTE=momo7430]Is it only me who feels a little intimidated by the size of the school :confused: I have never been to a big college and while I think it would be really exciting... it's a little scary. UNECOM is much smaller and seems like more of a family. [/QUOTE

Yes, the campus is quite large. I've lived in Lansing my entire life and only learned my way around campus is the last 2 years! But, you probably will never see 50% of campus unless you choose to since both of the medical schools are based on the east side of campus. The worst thing is driving because there are busses everywhere and pedestrians walking everywhere! Trust me, don't base your decision on the large campus because it will seem small after you've been there for a month. Good luck with your decision though!

I have been accepted to MSUCOM 2009. I have been on the fence between UNECOM and MSUCOM :scared: I am drawn to both schools!!! Geez, before I have an ulcer about it... I want to know. Is it only me who feels a little intimidated by the size of the school :confused: I have never been to a big college and while I think it would be really exciting... it's a little scary. UNECOM is much smaller and seems like more of a family. What do you all think? Should I toughen' up and just do the damn thing?
All mixed up... 12/15/04 deadline looming. THANKS! :love:

I know how you feel. I grew up in E. Lansing but decided to attend a small public school out of state rather than attend MSU (I was intimidated by size as well). But seriously, you will spend nearly all your time in two buildings located very close to each other for the first two years of school. Its basically a small medical school that is affiliated with a large university.

By the way, Funstuff, how is the decision process coming along between Wayne State and CHM?


Not much progress... still leaning toward MSU... although i canceled 3 interviews I am still going to interview at a few other places- 1 place where i did a summer internship, and 2 other places where i have friends. I am also still waiting to hear from a few other places that i interviewed at. The thing is, is that I am almost positive that I want to stay in state... so MSU is looking like the place best for me.

Well, good luck! Still no word from U of M?

Funstuff, I got the call from Christine Schafer tonight, at 8:30.

Funstuff, I got the call from Christine Schafer tonight, at 8:30.


Congrats. they still have me on hold :mad: , but I am choosing COM anyway because I really want to be a DO. Let us know what you decide, and either way, I look forwrd to having class with you. :thumbup: I'm so sorry I missed meeting you and the others the other night, but I will go ahead and set another meeting up in January after the holidays. I'll post it on this thread and we can do a Saturday night again. That way, if I set the thing up, I know I won't miss everybody :idea:

Thanks, Medic. Yeah, we definitely need to have another get together when most of the class is filled up. :thumbup:

Thanks, Medic. Yeah, we definitely need to have another get together when most of the class is filled up. :thumbup:

That sounds like a great idea! It would be good to know some faces in the fall.

That sounds like a great idea! It would be good to know some faces in the fall.

I'm thinking Saturday, January 8 at 9pm at the Harrison Roadhouse, in the side section where the fireplace is. Any other ideas, preferences? If not, can you all make it? I will post a reminder.

I'm thinking Saturday, January 8 at 9pm at the Harrison Roadhouse, in the side section where the fireplace is. Any other ideas, preferences? If not, can you all make it? I will post a reminder.

That could work. There is a home basketball game that day though. I would expect the Roadhouse to be pretty busy afterwards.

That could work. There is a home basketball game that day though. I would expect the Roadhouse to be pretty busy afterwards.


Let's make it Saturday, January 15 2005, 7:00 pm at Harrison Roadhouse, in the fireplace section. I checked and there is only a hockey game at 7:30 in East Lansing that day. Please post your thoughts and if you can make it, and I will remind everyone in January.

Let's make it Saturday, January 15 2005, 7:00 pm at Harrison Roadhouse, in the fireplace section. I checked and there is only a hockey game at 7:30 in East Lansing that day. Please post your thoughts and if you can make it, and I will remind everyone in January.

That sounds good to me. I hope that everyone will come! :D

Let's make it Saturday, January 15 2005, 7:00 pm at Harrison Roadhouse, in the fireplace section. I checked and there is only a hockey game at 7:30 in East Lansing that day. Please post your thoughts and if you can make it, and I will remind everyone in January.


That sounds great!

That sounds good to me. I hope that everyone will come! :D

Could you invite that current student you know too?

Could you invite that current student you know too?

Sure. Last time he brought two other classmates as well. He is a great one to talk to about MSUCOM.

Funstuff, I got the call from Christine Schafer tonight, at 8:30.


hey! congrats! that's awesome! :clap: :clap: :clap:
sorry it took me awhile to respond, i've had a few presentations all due within the last few week.

i'm on hold at UM...

How are all my Michigan peeps enjoying the weather? :( or :D ?

Personally, I don't expect anyone to feel any +pity+ for me, because the first day of snow always makes me feel :) . Although I had a :( time getting home because everyone was driving like they were :scared: , which made me feel :mad: , well perhaps not :mad: , just +pissed+.

Excuse all the faces, I guess I'm just in a :p mood.

How are all my Michigan peeps enjoying the weather?

Personally, I don't expect anyone to feel any +pity+ for me, because the first day of snow always makes me feel :) . Although I had a :( time getting home because everyone was driving like they were :scared: , which made me feel :mad: , well perhaps not :mad: , just +pissed+.

Excuse all the faces, I guess I'm just in a :p mood.


This weather sucks, and I am on for 24 starting a midnight. I guess I won't plan on getting much sleep tonite at work :(

This weather sucks, and I am on for 24 starting a midnight. I guess I won't plan on getting much sleep tonite at work :(

Oh, sorry to hear that. I did a 20 hour shift last week and it was not fun. Screwed up my sleep schedule for days.

Do you work out of Lansing?

Oh, sorry to hear that. I did a 20 hour shift last week and it was not fun. Screwed up my sleep schedule for days.

Do you work out of Lansing?

I work down in Leslie. I don't mind getting up to save people, but the thing is, 9 times out of 10 (we probably will get 10 calls tonite) we are just chasing an abandoned car in a ditch on 127 that someone spotted and called 911.

:laugh: Thats too funny. I go up to Leslie a lot of Sunday mornings because I have some clients that go to church there. Its a pretty small town, not much happening there.

:laugh: Thats too funny. I go up to Leslie a lot of Sunday mornings because I have some clients that go to church there. Its a pretty small town, not much happening there.

Yeah, but the ambulance service covers Leslie city, Leslie Township, Bunker Hill, Rives, Tompkins, Onondaga, and Henrietta..like 170 square miles, so we stay busy for a small non-profit service. Dr. Deweed there in town just joined our Board of Directors, he was a former medic turned FP doc. Do you know him, he is pretty cool?

Anyway, its not all bad. Foote hospital just donated a 12 lead EKG/Defib (lifepack) and I took the 12 lead interpretation class, so at least I have a new toy to play with.

Nope, can't say that I do know him, sorry.

But being a paramedic always sounded exciting to me, if a little scary. I can see where it would be a huge adrenaline rush.

All the paramedic (guys) I have known have been buff, as well as being total adrenaline junkies. :laugh:

Nope, can't say that I do know him, sorry.

But being a paramedic always sounded exciting to me, if a little scary. I can see where it would be a huge adrenaline rush.

All the paramedic (guys) I have known have been buff, as well as being total adrenaline junkies. :laugh:

Seriously, if you ever would like to do a 3rd ride (observe) sometime when I am working I would be happy to have you. Just have to sign some HIPPA stuff. However, you should know about the infamous 3rd rider syndrome. When a 3rd rider rides a long and wants to see cool stuff, nothing ever happens until after you go home ;)

BTW, I was an adrenaline junkie for the first couple years. Most of us grow out of it, while some were just made to do this sort of thing and never get burned out.

Seriously, if you ever would like to do a 3rd ride (observe) sometime when I am working I would be happy to have you. Just have to sign some HIPPA stuff. However, you should know about the infamous 3rd rider syndrome. When a 3rd rider rides a long and wants to see cool stuff, nothing ever happens until after you go home ;)

BTW, I was an adrenaline junkie for the first couple years. Most of us grow out of it, while some were just made to do this sort of thing and never get burned out.

Sure! Maybe we can pick a 'good night' where I will be likely to see some action. Thanks, Medic!

Sure! Maybe we can pick a 'good night' where I will be likely to see some action. Thanks, Medic!\

We can talk about it in January when the class meets!

:cool: (what is it with me and talking in smiley faces today?) :laugh:

I can't believe all the snow that we are getting! I feel like tomorrow is Christmas not Thanksgiving. Fortunately for me people are coming to my house so I don't have to travel. Hopefully everyone makes it to their destination safely :o .

No kidding! Its pretty outside, but feels much more appropriate to Xmas!

I know that a few of you guys either attended MSU as an undergrad or are in the area, so can you give some advice to a So Cal kiddie? :D
Is a car essential to living off campus? I'd likely live close, perhaps within walking distance to Fee Hall and the east side of campus, provided that area is quiet and all. I managed without having a car for three years in Upstate NY just using Greyhound and Amtrak for longer distances and cabs for short ones (inexpensive cab area :thumbup: ).
I've got a job until August when classes start, should I make sure to save up for a car and insurance? :confused:

I know that a few of you guys either attended MSU as an undergrad or are in the area, so can you give some advice to a So Cal kiddie? :D
Is a car essential to living off campus? I'd likely live close, perhaps within walking distance to Fee Hall and the east side of campus, provided that area is quiet and all. I managed without having a car for three years in Upstate NY just using Greyhound and Amtrak for longer distances and cabs for short ones (inexpensive cab area :thumbup: ).
I've got a job until August when classes start, should I make sure to save up for a car and insurance? :confused:

CATA (the bus system) is adequete if absolutley necessary, but I think you are going to want a car because it makes life so much simpler.

The CATA bus system is pretty good. I live about 1.5 miles of campus and usually take the bus to campus everyday. But, on the days that I miss the bus, I definitely need my car. As far as getting around town, there are busses that go directly to the mall from campus and to Meijer (grocery store). The same bus also goes west to downtown Lansing. It is very feasible to take the bus anywhere you need to go, but honestly it would be much more convenient to have a car. Some busses only go by every 20-30 minutes so you could spend a lot of time waiting around for the next bus.

The CATA bus system is pretty good. I live about 1.5 miles of campus and usually take the bus to campus everyday. But, on the days that I miss the bus, I definitely need my car. As far as getting around town, there are busses that go directly to the mall from campus and to Meijer (grocery store). The same bus also goes west to downtown Lansing. It is very feasible to take the bus anywhere you need to go, but honestly it would be much more convenient to have a car. Some busses only go by every 20-30 minutes so you could spend a lot of time waiting around for the next bus.
Wow, I remember Meijer! :idea: I spent a good part of a week near Dayton, Ohio and that was the market chain in the area.
Thanks for the info :thumbup: , I'll have to see how much I can save from my current job. I'm thinking if I'm able to bring a car I'll pack up my stuff about 2-3 wks before classes start and drive from SoCal to Michigan. :scared: It's difficult to fly with my bird, Icarus, and I might as well have some sort of a vacation before med school starts :D . We'll see...

Wow, I remember Meijer! :idea: I spent a good part of a week near Dayton, Ohio and that was the market chain in the area.
Thanks for the info :thumbup: , I'll have to see how much I can save from my current job. I'm thinking if I'm able to bring a car I'll pack up my stuff about 2-3 wks before classes start and drive from SoCal to Michigan. :scared: It's difficult to fly with my bird, Icarus, and I might as well have some sort of a vacation before med school starts :D . We'll see...


I suggest you take that vacation in January to find an apartment, because by summer all of the good places are usually full, especially the ones close to campus like you said you were looking for.

I suggest you take that vacation in January to find an apartment, because by summer all of the good places are usually full, especially the ones close to campus like you said you were looking for.

I would have thought that the end of spring semester, when all the students are leaving for summer, would be a good time to find an apartment. Is this not true?

I would have thought that the end of spring semester, when all the students are leaving for summer, would be a good time to find an apartment. Is this not true?


Almost all the apartments close by have waiting lists for fall leases, so you can rent for the summer ok, but fall is usually full. I am already on a waiting list.

Almost all the apartments close by have waiting lists for fall leases, so you can rent for the summer ok, but fall is usually full. I am already on a waiting list.
:eek: :scared: *gasp!*

Already waiting lists! sheesh!
That's insane, I won't be able to even take a quick flight for a bit now, much less look for an apartment. I don't want to be stuck with an unmentionable apartment when I finally make the drive/flight to Michigan in August.

I know that you're quite familiar with the area, so could you post the names of some places near campus (walking distance to class if possible) that are pretty quiet and nice, but ya know...not too expensive...ie the kinda place everybody wants but only the people with trust funds actually get. *wink, wink* ;) :D

:eek: :scared: *gasp!*

Already waiting lists! sheesh!
That's insane, I won't be able to even take a quick flight for a bit now, much less look for an apartment. I don't want to be stuck with an unmentionable apartment when I finally make the drive/flight to Michigan in August.

I know that you're quite familiar with the area, so could you post the names of some places near campus (walking distance to class if possible) that are pretty quiet and nice, but ya know...not too expensive...ie the kinda place everybody wants but only the people with trust funds actually get. *wink, wink* ;) :D


http://www.rent.com/search/results/?state_nb=29&freeform_submarket_nm=east%20lansing&minimumrent_at=300&maximumrent_at=99999999&bedroom_nb=&bathroom_nb=&dogscats=0|0&landmark_id=&mode=search&searchtype=city

http://www.hfs.msu.edu/uh/campus/apartments/

http://www.123aptsearch.com/Detroit_MI/East_Lansing.htm

http://www.apartmentmatching.com/search/results.php?PHPSESSID=ecb4d5676f52bcb0e34bfde8464d ce9f

Hey everyone!
I just got accepted to MSU and am considering matriculation. While at the interview, the financial aid rep. mentioned something about out-of-staters being able to gain state residency. I wasn't really paying attention seeing as I thought I botched the interview and thought that an acceptance from MSU was about as likely as a Hitler playing hopscotch with Jesus in heaven.

Could somebody shed some light on the situation. Thanks :thumbup:

As far as I know, you can't become an in-state resident if you applied as an out-of-state resident. You need to live in Michigan for one full year prior to starting medical school, and during that year you can't be a student.
I know this because I grew up in Michigan but lived somewhere else for the past six years. I had to move back this summer in order to apply as a MI resident and qualify for the residency tuition at MSU.

As far as I know, you can't become an in-state resident if you applied as an out-of-state resident. You need to live in Michigan for one full year prior to starting medical school, and during that year you can't be a student.
I know this because I grew up in Michigan but lived somewhere else for the past six years. I had to move back this summer in order to apply as a MI resident and qualify for the residency tuition at MSU.

Shelley is right. there is no way to become a resident unless you were to defer for a year and live here or marry a Michiganian.

I have a question...
Does anyone know if MSU's "one-time computer loan" of $2,000 can be used to buy accessories such as printers/scanners? Or if it is just for the computer itself?

Hello Class mates!

It has been some time since I checked on SDN. I am trying to get done with my last chemistry class (biochem). I hate writing lab reports!! I hope we don't have to do them in medical school!!!
We are up here in Marquette and there is just a few inches of snow. We are going to buy a place down around E. Lansing while I attend school. Know of any nice areas within 15-20 minutes where we might find a nice farm house and a few acres for our chickens!
I will probably do the extended program so that i have more time with my 3 kids. I will have to find out more about this, but it seems good for us.


-see you later

-dan Cote'

PS- heh Medic 170, hope you are doing well!

Hey Dan! I think we interviewed together :idea: . Anyway, I could suggest looking either south in the Mason area, or north in the St. John's/Dewitt area. There is a pretty good radius around the greater lansing area that would probably suit you well. I used to live in Mason (about 10 miles south of campus). It is a really great town for a family. The schools there are good. To the north you will have to go a little further to find a decent size lot and even further to the east and west. I'm sure that you are used to driving a little ways to get to anything up there though so driving is probably not a big deal. Let me know if I can be any more help.

Hey Dan! I think we interviewed together :idea: . Anyway, I could suggest looking either south in the Mason area, or north in the St. John's/Dewitt area. There is a pretty good radius around the greater lansing area that would probably suit you well. I used to live in Mason (about 10 miles south of campus). It is a really great town for a family. The schools there are good. To the north you will have to go a little further to find a decent size lot and even further to the east and west. I'm sure that you are used to driving a little ways to get to anything up there though so driving is probably not a big deal. Let me know if I can be any more help.

Leslie is very nice too.

Hi everyone,

I just got the call from Kathie Schafer yesterday afternoon & it looks like I'll be joining you all in the MSUCOM class of 2009. (woo-hoo!!!!:) ) I was really surprised when she called -- I expected to wait a lot longer (I just interviewed on 12/2).

Anyway, I hope to get to know everybody & congrats to everybody else who made it!

Therese aka "raDiOnut"

Welcome to the class! I know you must be so excited! Where is Little Mexico?

Hi everyone,

I just got the call from Kathie Schafer yesterday afternoon & it looks like I'll be joining you all in the MSUCOM class of 2009. (woo-hoo!!!!:) ) I was really surprised when she called -- I expected to wait a lot longer (I just interviewed on 12/2).

Anyway, I hope to get to know everybody & congrats to everybody else who made it!

Therese aka "raDiOnut"In case you do not know already, we atre having a class of 2009 get together on Saturday, January 15 2005, 7:00 pm at Harrison Roadhouse, in the fireplace section (the one right to the left when you walk in). I hope you will be able to make it and meet with us. I will be posting reminders The week before and I will have a section reserved over there for us. Will you be able to make it? Either way, welcome to the class!!!

BTW, if anyone needs directions from out of town, let me know.

In case you do not know already, we atre having a class of 2009 get together on Saturday, January 15 2005, 7:00 pm at Harrison Roadhouse, in the fireplace section (the one right to the left when you walk in). I hope you will be able to make it and meet with us. I will be posting reminders The week before and I will have a section reserved over there for us. Will you be able to make it? Either way, welcome to the class!!!

BTW, if anyone needs directions from out of town, let me know.

Thanks for the welcome Marie and Medic.

It's good to FINALLY be here!!!!! I've been dying to have a real excuse to post on the Osteo forum. "Little Mexico" would be Imlay City -- we have more of a Mexican population than American (w/ 5+ Mexican grocery stores, 1 Mexican bakery, 1 Mexican discoteca/video rental, 1 Mexican restaurant, multiple Latin American and Mexican churches... and the list goes on!) Spanish is our second language. ;)

I'm going to put the class get together on my calendar -- Jan 15th should be fine for me (now that I don't have to go to OSU for an interview the 13th)

Medic170, what EMS service do you work for? I was debating trying to work a few shifts ...oops got a run (EMS)

raDiOnut

Thanks for the welcome Marie and Medic.

It's good to FINALLY be here!!!!! I've been dying to have a real excuse to post on the Osteo forum. "Little Mexico" would be Imlay City -- we have more of a Mexican population than American (w/ 5+ Mexican grocery stores, 1 Mexican bakery, 1 Mexican discoteca/video rental, 1 Mexican restaurant, multiple Latin American and Mexican churches... and the list goes on!) Spanish is our second language. ;)

I'm going to put the class get together on my calendar -- Jan 15th should be fine for me (now that I don't have to go to OSU for an interview the 13th)

Medic170, what EMS service do you work for? I was debating trying to work a few shifts ...oops got a run (EMS)

raDiOnut

Right now I am working down in Leslie for Leslie Area Ambulance. Been there for 6 years.
http://www.leslieambulance.org

I have worked just about everywhere around here in the past: Mercy, Delhi Fire, Jackson Community Ambulance. I also used to work at an urgent care down in Jackson, and next semester I am going to be working at a Doctor's office down there along with the ambulance.

Right now I am working down in Leslie for Leslie Area Ambulance. Been there for 6 years.
http://www.leslieambulance.org

I have worked just about everywhere around here in the past: Mercy, Delhi Fire, Jackson Community Ambulance. I also used to work at an urgent care down in Jackson, and next semester I am going to be working at a Doctor's office down there along with the ambulance.

that's neat. I've worked EMS in Lapeer Co. for about 1.5 yrs as an EMT-basic. I wanted to take a medic class, but didn't have time before med school! Are you going to still work/ride along during med school? I've been debating trying to do that.

I tried to write a response yesterday, but I was on duty and got interrupted by a 7wk old baby "turning blue and gasping for air." It turned out it was a case of new mommy syndrome.

later, raDiOnut

Wow, I never knew this exsisted. This is a great idea. I interviewed on Nov. 16 and was accepted on Dec. 2. I look forward to next year with all you other MSUCOMers.

Wow, I never knew this exsisted. This is a great idea. I interviewed on Nov. 16 and was accepted on Dec. 2. I look forward to next year with all you other MSUCOMers.

Welcome! You should come to the get-together we're having next month (jan 15th at Harrison Roadhouse).

Hey MSUCOM class of 2009,

I have been engrossed in work as of late and have not had time to post. Wow, this thread has been quite busy since I visited last...great to see that there are more and more MSUCOM class members I look forward to studying with everyone. I wish I could make it to the January get-together, but I will have to wait until I move to MI in July - August; hopefully we can plan a summer get-together as well.


To those who live in the EL area:
I have been considering a move to the Haslett / Forest Hills area. I am looking for a quiet middle-class suburb with a great middle school / high school system. I have done some online searching and have yet to decide. I am planning a scouting trip to the EL area in March or April and appreciate any feedback.

FYI other non-residents, here are two of the websites I have been using to research EL communities:
http://www.city-data.com/city/Michigan.html
http://www.reply.com/real_estate/research/neighborhood_profile/default.asp


btw Yposhelley, what have you found out about the 2k computer loan?


Thanks everyone,
-WM

Hey

btw Yposhelley, what have you found out about the 2k computer loan?


Thanks everyone,
-WM

Well, I found a blurb on the COM website stating that they encouraged you to buy a "package deal" from a computer company which include a printer and all that, so I took that to mean that the 2K loan does include all the basic accessories. But I still don't know for sure. Either way, I'm going to have buy a printer with it, and they don't cost that much, so I decided not to worry.

I think I'm going to buy a Mac. :D

Well, I found a blurb on the COM website... :D

Thanks Yposhelley.
This is the only information I found on the COM website.
http://finaid.msu.edu/med/computer.asp

However, I did find computer recomendations (minimum) on the ISA section.
http://www.com.msu.edu/isa/micro/hw_sw_reco.html

Thanks again,
WM

Haslett is a nice town and is very close to the Meridian Mall. That means lots of restaurants and stores nearby. I'm also very partial to Holt, which is south of East Lansing, since I was raised there. They have a great school system with a brand new high school, but Holt doesn't have much entertainmentwise. There are a couple of restaurants but that's about it.

Haslett is a nice town and is very close to the Meridian Mall. That means lots of restaurants and stores nearby. I'm also very partial to Holt, which is south of East Lansing, since I was raised there. They have a great school system with a brand new high school, but Holt doesn't have much entertainmentwise. There are a couple of restaurants but that's about it.
So I'm looking for a place for me and my bird, Icarus, in Lansing...quiet, nice, furnished!, $400-700/month I think, and close as possible to the med school. I like the way this place looks...the floor plan is great:
http://www.rent.com/apartments/michigan/lansing-and-vicinity/east-lansing/432774/1/
Anyone know about this one?

Also, when is the white coat ceremony for MSU? When we get there? After the first two blocks?
Would it be pre-mature to get a personalized stethoscope from allheart.com (Littmann Cardio III)? Or are there really awesome deals at MSU (< $120) or do we want to go in on a mass order deal from allheart when class starts. I know that there are early clinical correlations at MSU, which is something I've been looking for and really love, so I know we'll need a steth pretty early.
Any input or ideas?

So...when is the white coat ceremony for MSU? When we get there? After the first two blocks?

Based upon the 04-05 schedule:
http://www.com.msu.edu/ss/dates.html

If the 2005-06 schedule holds to the same format, the white coat ceremony should be held the last friday in August 2005; i.e., the 26th with classes to commence on Monday the 29th.

-WM

Haslett is a nice town...I'm also very partial to Holt

Thank you.
I will add Holt to my list.

-WM

Am I alone here, or is everyone else getting driven crazy by the fact that the schedule for next year is not out yet? I keep trying to ascertain the date for orientation, etc...

I guess this is the curse of being accepted early... :D


I'll take it. :laugh:

So I've got this problem, and since you guys might be (hopefully) my future classmates, I feel like you'd be the first place to turn. I'm a non-resident, as it says to the left <--- Southern California. The non-resident scholarships were handed out today, and of the eight for the class of 2009, I got none... :( :mad:

I'm really worried that I won't be able to attend.

I've been furiously going through the figures in my head, trying to figure out how to make it happen. I think my father might be able to pitch in $1000/month, so that might cover my rent and utilities and maybe some food, but tuition comes to about $52,000/year for tuition alone since we go three semesters for each year. And then there's owning a car and books and anything else, I'm just worried about the finances now.

Is the Stafford Loan cap raised for us since we have class year round?

My credit is terrible (ID theft that I didn't know about for 4 years...long story) so I worry about getting more loans.

I've seriously considered NHSC, and will likely apply, but I don't want the pressure of having to get that scholarship that late in the game in order to even go to med school, I should want the scholarship for the money and the good it does. :thumbup:

Ms. Schafer said that I should apply for all the other scholarships and that many students don't reapply for their other years, not to mention that if one of the 8 students that were awarded the non-resident scholarship should turn it down, it would go to one of the other 46 of us (52 acceptees went for the 8 awards).

What do you guys think? I mean, yeah, I'm going to live frugally, but I don't want to have to constantly wonder if I have enough pennies to buy a snack or feed my bird this month. I'm just really worried and I think I've got my heart set on MSU now. Not to mention that I don't want the added pressure of not having a school this late in the game and attending all three of my other interviews I've been putting off! :eek:

Hi Subtle,

Wow, I'm sorry to hear that. Are there going to be more scholarships for MS2, isn't this right? I'm curious as to what criteria they used to select the recipients for this years scholarship (GPA/MCAT coupled with outstanding ECs?)

I really think you should sit down (or do a phone meeting) with one of the financial aid counselors at MSUCOM, where you can talk about your specific situation and details. This is the only way you are really going to get definitive peace of mind (because we aren't authorities). I think what you want to know is "is it doable?" I think it is, although it is scary (for all us) to go so much into debt. Even for residents the total budget for one year including summer is $45,423, so I'm going to have to use another loan source to come up with the extra $8,500 - I guess using the Perkins loan (does anyone know if these are hard to get?)
I really hope you'll be able to get things figured out and that you'll be able to attend MSU...
I know the maximum stafford loans you can get per year (and this is less if you have unpaid stafford loans from undergrad) is $38,500. So for me (I have $6,000 unpaid undergrad stafford loan)-the maximum amount per year would be 1,500 less per year( I think).

So yes, you'll have to use other (and probably higher interest) loans to pay the difference. Let me see if I can find the link, and I'll edit it to this post.
http://finaid.msu.edu/med/sources.asp

I think what they will advise doing is to try and set your credit straight as much as you can in the coming year. Good luck and let me know how it goes with you! :luck:

Thanks ypo, I really appreciate the help.

I'm going to talk to my family and see if my father is willing to help at least for this first year.
Then I'll be on the phone with the financial aid office.
I like MSU and feel it's the best choice for me, best school, best opportunities, great faculty, great staff, great classmates!

I didn't know that prior Stafford Loans are considered, that will be a problem as I've got about $15,000 from ugrad, this isn't looking pretty.
My credit rating is going up as I finally got a credit card, as much as I loathe them, and I'm using it and paying as much as I can.
My parents have perfect credit records so that might help a little, and I'll talk to my sister, who went to NYMC about 10 years ago and survived the financial turmoil. Although, that was a little less $$$ and she had a wonderful husband to help with money.

I feel like I've invested too much time and happiness in MSU to just throw it away and go for another school like KCOM or UMDNJ (I have interviews to both). MSU also gives me such great opportunities in Michigan, where DOs flourish like leaves in the spring air! :p

Trust me, I'm going to do everything I can to make it work. Hopefully, I'm doing the right thing and won't end up with $280,000 in debt wishing I went to a "cheaper" private school. I'm making the right decision, right? :confused:
Just a little boost from the crowd? :thumbup:

I didn't know that prior Stafford Loans are considered...I feel like I've invested too much time and happiness in MSU to just throw it away...I'm making the right decision, right?


subtle1epiphany,

I feel you pain. I too found out the unfortunate news that I was not selected as a recipient of the Non-resident scholarship. Sticker shock has quickly set in; 52k per year for tuition, health insurance, and books/instruments is a hefty price tag to swallow.

Without an Osteopathic school in Wisconsin, I have no in-state alternatives. I only applied to Osteopathic schools as this is the type of doctor I wish to become. With two in-state allopathic schools it would have an easier financial option; however, I truly feel that MSUCOM is the best fit for me. I am excited by the program, school, & opportunities.

Yposhelley's advice to call financial aid is on point. I too am very concerned about financing my education and living expenses, so I called Judy Marks marksjud@msu.edu (517) 353-5188 yesterday. She was very informative and helpful in pointing me toward sound financial options.

Here is the loan breakdown:
Per annum Stafford loan 8,500 subsidized / 30,000 unsubsidized or any combination thereof which may total 38,500 for each 9 month period. Lifetime amount 189,125. This also includes any unpaid undergraduate loans yet outstanding.

Perkins loan changes from year to year; but you should be awarded around 1,400 - 1,500 per year.

Education Opportunity Fellowship 2,400 per year with outstanding ug loans indebtedness of 25k or greater.

Other various incoming scholarship opportunities...
http://www.com.msu.edu/ss/scholarships.html
http://www.aacom.org/financialaid/index.html
http://finaid.msu.edu/med/sources.asp


Private loans:
http://finaid.msu.edu/med/altloans.asp
Private loan interest rates are variable but (at present) range from 3.5 ~ 5.5%.

Or

You could always defer admission to 2006 and establish yourself as a resident of MI. This is not an option I am willing to pursue; I will just have to 'make it work.'

Tuition, health insurance, and books/instruments:
189,125 (lifetime Stafford) / 38,500 = 4.9 years
So, if you have little ug debt left outstanding, the Stafford loan will cover the Fall/Spring semesters for all four years (154,000)
This leaves you 35,125 applied to the summer periods ~ 2years.

Obviously, you will have to borrow from a private source, but is not as bad as you may think. Besides the non-resident scholarship only covers two years of your education, and those who were this year's recipients may or may not be selected for the following academic year.

Also, MSUCOM has tuition reciprocity for non-residents who do their residency in the state of Michigan. This is a retroactive refund to the principle borrowed for the final 12 months of your medical education. With the present rate of tuition, this is about a 26k non taxable deduction.

The debt is scary to say the least; but irrespective of your school of choice, you will incur a huge debt; I say go where you feel drawn, comfortable, and have a strong desire to attend.

I have begun looking for various housing options; if you wish, send me a pm and we can chat further.

With ALL that said, I hope that you do not let financial concerns limit your decision of becoming a physician.

-WM

The day I interviewed the finacial aid representative was not there, so I am kind of clueless. I've seen the links above, but I was just wondering if we are still suppose to fill out FASFA or if there is a different form.

The day I interviewed the finacial aid representative was not there, so I am kind of clueless. I've seen the links above, but I was just wondering if we are still suppose to fill out FASFA or if there is a different form.

:laugh: I wish I could have traded places with you. I have sat through 5 financial aid representations...

Yes, fill out FAFSA on or soon after Feb. 1st (that is the date I believe). Just designate MSUCOM or any other school you are considering attending on the list of schools. FAFSA sends your info to the school and they prepare the financial aid package for you.
(i'm sure you know all that).

At some point getting closer to the beginning of next year, they will pull us in to meet with a financial aid counselour. I'm pretty sure to apply for the stafford and perkins all you have to do is fill out the FAFSA. To apply for those medloans, we may have to do extra paper work.


DON'T FORGET---to those of us who have parents in the low to moderate income bracket-make sure you include their financial info as well-it can only help you (you may be eligible for additional low-interest loans).

Hey all! I'm now a 3rd year student at MSUCOM and I just wanted to say "congrats" and "good luck" to you all as you embark on what will be a very exciting journey! I would say that some of the best years of my life are being spent at MSUCOM and the program is wonderful! Clinical years are even better because you finally get to put into practice what you worked so hard at for the past few years. It is difficult, but with hardwork and help from your fellow classmates, anything is possible. I'm always willing to answer any and all questions you may have!

Have a wonderful holiday!

P.S. Just a note-- the OMM electives are open to COM students only!
:)

Hey Osteo! Thanks for your words of encouragement. I just graduated finally from MSU and am so excited to start my life as a medical student. I am definitely happy about having some time to rest before I start, but I wish it was only a month instead of 9 months. Have you chosen a field of interest yet? I've been thinking a lot about that lately and I just think it is going to be so hard for me to decide. Happy Holidays to everyone and travel safely!! :love:

Hi I am also a 3rd year at MSU and I would like to say congrats on making it this far and I would also like to say that I would be happy to answer any questions that you or anybody else might have about the process.

I think we've all been on vacation :) . Are we still on for the 15th? Is anyone bringing along their significant other or should I leave my husband at home :( ? I'm excited to meet everyone!

it has been quiet on here! wake up everybody!! (I'm still asleep and need some coffee, but I'm on a caffeine break)

I'm not going to be able to make it on the 15th :( :( Hope you guys schedule another meeting later on!

I just sent my deposit in to MSUCOM....and it's due today. talk about procrastination! I paid for overnight delivery on Friday, not realizing that no one would be in the office. According to USPS tracking it's not there yet! I realllly hope it gets there this morning or I'm in trouble....

it should get there, that's why I paid the $13.65, lol

later, all

Therese

it has been quiet on here! wake up everybody!! (I'm still asleep and need some coffee, but I'm on a caffeine break)

I'm not going to be able to make it on the 15th :( :( Hope you guys schedule another meeting later on!

I just sent my deposit in to MSUCOM....and it's due today. talk about procrastination! I paid for overnight delivery on Friday, not realizing that no one would be in the office. According to USPS tracking it's not there yet! I realllly hope it gets there this morning or I'm in trouble....

it should get there, that's why I paid the $13.65, lol

later, all

Therese

Hey Therese, if I were you I'd call Kathie and let her know you overnighted it. They won't bump you off if they know its on the way.

Hey Therese, if I were you I'd call Kathie and let her know you overnighted it. They won't bump you off if they know its on the way.

I just emailed Linda, but if I don't get a response in an hour or two, I'll give Kathie a call. I decided to try the email first, because for some reason, Linda doesn't seem to like me calling the office (and I've only called a few times :confused: )

thanks for the advice, will do later,

Therese/raDiOnut

I just emailed Linda, but if I don't get a response in an hour or two, I'll give Kathie a call. I decided to try the email first, because for some reason, Linda doesn't seem to like me calling the office (and I've only called a few times :confused: )

thanks for the advice, will do later,

Therese/raDiOnut

Linda is a grump. No offense to her, its just that everyone knows this. Actually I think there is something wrong with her. She escorted me to my interview and I noticed she was shaking (like tremors). Plus she was extremely scattered and unfocused. I felt kind of sorry for her.

Anyways, this is your future, and its her job to answer the phone. Call her, or call Kathie. :luck:

I am afraid I have to cancel on the 15th also. We can reschedule it in Feb or march.

I am afraid I have to cancel on the 15th also. We can reschedule it in Feb or march.

That's fine with me. We have a couple of things going on this weekend anyway. Maybe we should pick a new date.

That's fine with me. We have a couple of things going on this weekend anyway. Maybe we should pick a new date.

I'm free most Sat/Sun; I do EMS and classes most other days. I'll definitely try to be at our re-scheduled meeting.

I was wondering about Linda...Actually, for quite a while, I was not going to go to MSUCOM mainly because everytime I contacted/called them, I got a fairly unwelcoming response (it took me a little while to realize that this was from just one person). When I went to my interview, I felt so at home, relaxed and welcome from everyone that I decided that day to go to MSU if accepted. Anyway, because of her, I almost went to KCOM/LECOM instead.

I do have to say that Linda was great yesterday -- she responded to my email nicely (hurray) and when I called her, she was great and told me that she had my deposit. Maybe she just has an unhappy life or a lot of bad days?

Anyway, I've finally paid my deposit!!! woo hoo!!!!

let me know your thoughts about a rescheduled date. I would really like to start meeting people from class

Since the orientation schedule for our class has yet to be determined / posted, I decided to review the one posted for the class of 2008. FYI...
http://www.com.msu.edu/ss/orientation.html

Does this seem like a lot of activities to anyone else?!?
I guess I expected a welcome, "getting to know you", and the white coat ceremony but not 5 days filled with activities. Quite the warm welcome, imho.

In addition, there appear to be two optional waiver examinations offered; one for Biochemistry 514 and one for Molecular Biology / Genetics. Does anyone know the details?

Thanks,
-WM

I am afraid I have to cancel on the 15th also. We can reschedule it in Feb or march.

I will be in EL at the end of March and would love to meet up with members of our class. If March will work for those who live in the EL area, just pick the place and we can firm up the date and time.

Thanks,
-WM

I looked at that schedule too. I wish the class of '09 website would become available for us! Based on the '08 schedule, orientation is a lot longer than I figured it would be too, but I can definitely see how I'll need that week to start to get myself in a "med school mindset."

I took genetics in undergrad, but it's been a couple years now and I doubt I'll be able to test out. Are the waiver exams optional??? cuz I'm not going to need them :luck:

later

Hello everyone,
I am going to be joining you all in the Fall. I am an out of state student from New York City, so this is a big move for me. I am a bit concerned over the housing situation. I am looking for a place of walking distance from campus. I have looked at the MSUCOM Apartment/Roommate Matchup Service, but have not had much luck so far. If anyone is in the same boat or has any suggestions please let me know.
Thanks

Hello everyone,
I am going to be joining you all in the Fall. I am an out of state student from New York City, so this is a big move for me. I am a bit concerned over the housing situation. I am looking for a place of walking distance from campus. I have looked at the MSUCOM Apartment/Roommate Matchup Service, but have not had much luck so far. If anyone is in the same boat or has any suggestions please let me know.
Thanks


If you want to live in walking distance of campus, you better be ready to pay a LOT of rent and you better get on a waitying list now. You couls always live in University Apartments on campus if you like living next to loud undergrads and athletes (I speak from experience).

what waitlist and how do i get on it? I saw campus housing, definitely not for me. The rooms are so tiny :(

what waitlist and how do i get on it? I saw campus housing, definitely not for me. The rooms are so tiny :(

Well, here is a link to the actual apartments that are on campus. Price wise, they are not a bad deal, but its up to luck if you get put next to loud people or partying athletes and they do NOT enforce the noise ordinance, in fact, athletes can do WHATEVER they want, liyerally (one even set off pipe bonds last year and thet did nothing about it). Also, this campus is huge and even the closest Apartments are a 25 minute walk, You need a bike or CATA bus pass. The bus system, I must say, is actually excellent. They run every 10 minutes and only cost like $40 a semester or 50cents per ride.

Here is the link:

http://www.hfs.msu.edu/uh/campus/apartments/apartment_info.html

STUDENT
RATES
One Bedroom Uncarpeted
$514
One Bedroom Carpeted
$552
Two Bedroom Uncarpeted
$569
Two Bedroom Carpeted
$612
Two Bedroom Remodeled
$677
And they go up every year. Heat and electric is included, but you have to buy a parking pass.

As far as waitlists go, that is up to each apartment. Here is a link to a list of local places with ratings

http://www.apartmentratings.com/rate?a=vccbc&name=48823

Also try:

http://www.aimco.com

http://www.apartmentratings.com/rate?a=vccbc&name=48823

MSU Campus Apartments run
Monthly rental rates approved by the MSU Board of Trustees
effective August 1, 2004 to August 1, 2005


I live in the MSU campus apartments now and I hate it. We are moving to Briarlciff on Jolly into a town home for $770 a month about 5 minutes from campus.

If you want walking distance and do not want the MSU campus apartments, then you are looking at a rediculously high rental rate. I suggest someplace close by and then eith drive or take the CATA bus (which is not too bad). Thwere is parking close to fee in lot 100, only about a 2-3 block walk and its right by life sciences where 1st year classes will be. Let me know if you have any more questions or habe spoecific questiona about apartments.

remember, MSU has nearly 48,000 students, so if you are not on a waitlist by March or April at the very latest, you are going to only be abe to get the slimmest pickins.

I recommend Briarcliff Townhomes, where I am moving. 2 bed, 2 bath with full basement and its only a 3-5 minute drive to campus. Its also on th CATA bus line, which would take you about 15-20 minutes to get to Fee on CATA.

Check the links out, and feel free to ask me if you have specific questions about particualr apartments, I know about most of them since I have been here as an undergrad and now a med student. Some places are geared fro undergrads, while others are gearded for gradualte students and professional students. You really need someone who knows the area to give opinions, so ask questions. Let me know if I can help more.

You need to do this NOW! If you wait till summer, only the worst places will be left. If you let me know more what you are looking for (price range, amenities, # of bedrooms etc) I wold be happy to give you a "top 10" list or something.
My wife and I liked Homestead, 731 Burcham, burcham Woods, HIDDENTREE , CARRIAGE HILL and Nemkoe Trail off the top of my head.

You need to do this NOW! If you wait till summer, only the worst places will be left. If you let me know more what you are looking for (price range, amenities, # of bedrooms etc) I wold be happy to give you a "top 10" list or something.
My wife and I liked Homestead, 731 Burcham, burcham Woods, HIDDENTREE , CARRIAGE HILL and Nemkoe Trail off the top of my head.
What about Knob Hill?

It's really bothersome to have to choose where I'll be living for a year when I can't go and see it in person. As for what I've seen online, Homestead and Knob Hill sound and look the best for me.
Do you put down a deposit to hold the unit until you start? :confused: Never rented before, just lived at home and at school.

I am a third year from MSU and I wasnt accepted until July, yes july, and I was able to get an apartment without many problems. I lived at Berrytree, which can be expensive, but was nice and with a great location. I paid $637 a month for a single one bedroom, this included basic cable TV (the $37). The only problems I had in my two years were the train that is near by(which you get use to), and those boxdettle, and ladybugs (I think everybody had that problem though)

What about Knob Hill?

It's really bothersome to have to choose where I'll be living for a year when I can't go and see it in person. As for what I've seen online, Homestead and Knob Hill sound and look the best for me.
Do you put down a deposit to hold the unit until you start? :confused: Never rented before, just lived at home and at school.


I don't know much about Knob Hill. Homestead is nice, but the walls seemes a bit thin. What you have to do is call them up, apply, and then you will have to put a deposit to be on the "waiting list". It is usually around $100-$200. The absolute best place to live though, IMO, is Briarcliff . $780 for town homes and you get peace&quiet, 5 minutes from campus, 2 bed, 2 bath, finished basemend with storage and washer dryer hookup, pool, sauna, jacuzzi, fitness center, pets allowed, and the security deposit is inly $99.00. That is where I am moving to.

Homestead is nice, very spacious apartments, and some have fire places even. However, the office people gaver me the creeps, they are tooooo nice, as if they may be hiding something. You knoe, like "OMG, I am so excited you called Mr. medic170, I hope we will see you on this glorious day". Aslo, they NO amenities whatsoever, but you are allowed to use the pools etc. at other AIMCO properties in the area. I checked the crime reports too, and Homestead seems to have a lot of vehicle larcenies. Lastly, from the unit I toured, you could here the traffic on Lake Lansing road (a pretty busy road) through the walls a bit.

Briarcliff also has very nice and reasonably priced 1 or 2 bedroom apartments than run from $560 to $680 depending on what you want.

BTW, Briarcliff and Homestead still have room on their lists to get you in before school, and you can choose your move in date.

Oh, one more thing. These properties are owned by AIMCO. I mention this because if, in the future, you have to move away for rotatons or residency, you can move into another AIMCO property in that area without any penal;ties or expenses, and they have properties all over the place.

Here are some links for you guys

Briarcliff Apartments and Town Homes
http://www.aimco.com/AptSearch/PropShow.asp?PropertyID=038871

Homestead
http://www.aimco.com/AptSearch/PropShow.asp?PropertyID=006050

All East Lansing AIMCO propeties:
http://www.aimco.com/AptSearch/proplist_advanced.asp


Post again or PM me and I will help you out of staters as much as I can in making a good choice. It is VERY important to make an informed choice on your living space in this area. Choose wisely, and you will live comfortably and enjoy medical school. Choose poorly, and you will be in Hell both at school and at home 24 hours a day. There really is that much difference, trust me, I have lived in both here in East Lansing during my 4 years of undergrad. I am happy to help my future classmates.

I looked at the Briarcliffe apartments online and they seem pretty nice and not expensive (at least compared to what I pay in NYC). Anyway, just wanted to see if female MSUCOM class of 2005 student would be interested in looking into sharing a two bedroom apartment with me. No pets, no smoking.
Thanks.

I have an interview on the 8th of february and am looking for tips on how to get ready and what to expect for my interview.

Also any questions that they asked you would be greatly appreciated.


Decker

I have an interview on the 8th of february and am looking for tips on how to get ready and what to expect for my interview.

Also any questions that they asked you would be greatly appreciated.


Decker
Hmmm...to tell you the truth my interview day was a blur...just had a traumatic trip back to Saratoga (home of my undergrad) and I'm still surprised I got in (not that I think I'm unworthy, just surprised).
It's a great school, the staff and students are all really nice, but do keep in mind that the admissions office is moving and that students can be "stressed" from exams (which was such an overstatement as they were chilling after).

Be yourself!
Can't stress that enough.

My interview was more stressful than the others that day, one guy I met talked with a DO about fly fishing for most of the time. My interviewer was awesome, he was a little unnerving, but I wasn't expecting the PhD in charge of curriculum development and quite simply, I hadn't prepared for MSU as I should have. I was asked about healthcare situations and personal information just like any interview, nothing was out of place. He asked if I had any questions and after asking only one, he was quite surprised at the easier questions I had posed...so if you get someone who really asks for it, feel free to grill him...heheh :p

Best of luck and enjoy! :thumbup:

judgehopkins,

For your MSUCOM interview, just be relaxed. I had a 45 min interview. Be prepared for questions about your study habits, the usual why DO, why MSUCOM, how would you tell a patient he is dying, what would be your role in his last days, how did you prepare yourself for med school, strengths/weaknesses, how do you handles stress etc.

The interview was pretty relaxed, plenty of time to ask questions afterward. The financial aid counselor was great and spent a lot of time with me. MSUCOM was the best interview I had (out of LECOM, KCOM, MSUCOM)

Take a look at the interview feedback if you haven't already

gl, raDiOnut

Could anyone comment on the need for diagnostic kits at MSUCOM? Especially those in or past their third or fourth years. Are the kits required or used often? If so, which kind is recommended by faculty or you?

I'm not purchasing now, and will likely wait until classes start before getting the kit, but having the info now would be awesome as it's a significant expense. Especially if everyone I talk to says the PanOptic kits from Welch-Allyn are the kits recommended by everyone.

Thanks guys! :D

How do you answer the question, "How did you prepare for med school?"

It seems to me that nothing really prepares you for what you will go through med school. can anyone help me...?

thanks.

decker

How do you answer the question, "How did you prepare for med school?"

It seems to me that nothing really prepares you for what you will go through med school. can anyone help me...?

thanks.

decker

Hi decker,

When I was asked the question, I asked my interviewer the same thing -- whether he wanted to know what classes I'd taken to prepare, or medical experiences I'd had, or community experiences that prepared me or what. He basically told me I could answer it any way I wanted to, so I covered things like major classes I'd taken (then he asked which was my favorite/least favorite and why; I also ended up talking about why I dropped Biochemistry last semester)....talked about working EMS...stuff like that. It wasn't a bad question actually, just focus on what you have personally done to make you feel ready to apply + start med school. gl on the 8th,

raDiOnut

Judge,

I agree with subtle1epiphany & raDiOnut; be relaxed, be prepared, and most importantly be yourself. Imho, you can prep for a myriad of questions; many of which you may or may not be asked to answer. Don't drive yourself crazy trying to come up with scripted answers, just be honest and be yourself.

How do you answer the question, "How did you prepare for med school?" It seems to me that nothing really prepares you for what you will go through med school.

In reference to your ‘preparatory question’; albeit significant, one's academic preparedness is (imho) merely a minute factor. The comprehensive aspects of one’s life and life experiences are that which prepare the individual for each of life’s tests and trials. Perhaps more succinctly stated, one’s foibles and missteps are as vital as any achievement or accolade. Each of life’s paths we select have a critical influence on that which we identify as life experience; moreover, these meandering steps are not isolated instances, they are a collective intermingling of lessons from which one acquires character and the individuality of self.

In modest terms, the culmination of one’s experiences both prepare him/her for the challenges which lie ahead; e.g., attending medical school, and develop an empathic connection to the human condition. Be it personal relationships, sport, vocation, or whatever you deem relevant, draw upon the lessons you have learned from experiencing success and failure. These are life’s venues which teach self-assurance, humility, fair-play, integrity, sportsmanship, time/stress management, teamwork, etc. Medical school is simply one of a multitude of challenges you may face in your lifetime. Again, be sincere and be yourself.

Best of luck!

-WM

Did you all get the email about classes beginning on July 11th. I was not ready for this. AHHHHHH

Did you all get the email about classes beginning on July 11th. I was not ready for this. AHHHHHH

No, I have yet to receive any 05 schedule information. I am under the impression that classes are to commence 29 August 05.
http://www.com.msu.edu/aa/apinfo/keydates.shtml
Fall session Key dates 2005 for first and second year students.

-WM

Did you all get the email about classes beginning on July 11th. I was not ready for this. AHHHHHH

I know. I was prepared to start one month later not earlier. I am moving from California, so it changes some things for me. By the way, have you received any info regarding classes or school after sending in your deposit?

I just got the email and I am so excited. Theoretically this means that we will have more time to devote to learning anatomy properly since it will be the only class we have. I'm also very anxious to get started so I will have that much less time to think about it! Woo hoo!

Now that we are starting in the beginning of July, I will probably have to move from New York some time in June to get settled in. I am going to apply for campus housing (which i am still not sure is a great idea)....Anyone else plan to live on campus???

Did you all get the email about classes beginning on July 11th. I was not ready for this. AHHHHHH
Yeah, no email for me, what's going on?
I feel left out :(

Can someone post a copy of the email so I can read it until I recieve mine?
This could really change some things for me, I mean starting earlier is cool with me, I'd like to start right now, heheheh. But my job might not like it so much when I take off in June when I said I'd be there until August :rolleyes:

Here is a copy. (I hope it is okay to post this) :confused:

Dear Students:

I'm writing to alert you to a schedule change for your class. We have received approval to offer a separate Anatomy class to COM students. To accommodate this change, your orientation program will take place on July 7 and July 8, with additional activities throughout July and August. Your classes will begin on July 11, 2005. Anatomy will be the only class you'll take in the summer. The class will run for approximately 7 weeks, and will be treated as a Fall semester class so you will not be charged tuition for the summer semester.

For those of you who have prerequisite requirements to complete, if you cannot get them in during the 1st half of summer semester, we'll be looking at mechanisms for completion during either the Summer or Fall semesters. This decision just came down this week, so we're not ready to give you details on this yet. Just be assured that you will not be penalized because of the change. If you have unbreakable plans, you will have the option of taking Anatomy in the Fall semester with the College of Human Medicine. We strongly encourage you to arrange your schedules to take advantage of this opportunity to really immerse yourselves in the study of Anatomy before you begin the rest of your medical school studies.

The Associate Deans for Academic Programs and Student Services are in the process of preparing a more detailed communication that should answer your questions.

Kathie Schafer
Director of Admissions
Michigan State University
College of Osteopathic Medicine

Osteopathic Medicine:

Okay, whoa!
Thanks so much marie, that was awesome of you to post the email, I really appreciate it! :D

What's strangest to me is that I checked my email accounts for like the 3rd time today and I still have no email from MSU at all. I guess I'm going to have to wait until Monday to call the office, but I've recieved emails from them before without any trouble (checked my spam filters and such too!).

This definitely changes things for me as I'll need to step up my efforts to find an apartment and make arrangements to get to Michigan in early to mid June so I'm settled by school. My job is not going to like this...heheh :p
But too bad because I'm happy to start ASAP!

Once again, thanks for the heads up you guys! SDN is the greatest!

...I checked my email accounts for like the 3rd time today and I still have no email from MSU at all....
Yeah, still no email for me either. Big ups to Marie for posting the email; I am quite grateful.

Thank you.
-WM

So what do you guys think? Will cramming it in to 7 weeks be better than taking it with a full load in the fall? I'm excited to start, but it's going to be thrown at us hard core I'm sure. I can't wait to get more details!

So what do you guys think? Will cramming it in to 7 weeks be better than taking it with a full load in the fall? I'm excited to start, but it's going to be thrown at us hard core I'm sure. I can't wait to get more details!

I guess it won't be so bad since that is all we are doing.

Yeah, I never received the email either. I was wondering if you guys received anything else in the mail after you sent in your deposit. I mailed in my deposit over a month ago and I was hoping to receive so more info, but so far I haven't heard anything.

Hmm, does anyone know if this means we'll be taking another class in the fall instead of anatomy, or will it be a lighter load because of the early anatomy? I am hoping the latter. That would make the fall semester a bit less stressful to adjust to.

Hmm, does anyone know if this means we'll be taking another class in the fall instead of anatomy, or will it be a lighter load because of the early anatomy? I am hoping the latter. That would make the fall semester a bit less stressful to adjust to.
As a current MSUCOM student, from what we have heard, your class will be taking anatomy in the fall in order to lighten up an excruciating load in the fall. It should make your fall semester considerably less stressful.

As a current MSUCOM student, from what we have heard, your class will be taking anatomy in the fall in order to lighten up an excruciating load in the fall. It should make your fall semester considerably less stressful.
This makes me even more pleased with MSUCOM, it's really a school that seems to care about it's students. The only other school I visited that did similarly with their curriculum was SUNY Upstate, they tapered their course load so that first semester was "easier." I think it's awesome!

Can't wait to start in the summer!
What is it like during the summer in mid-state Michigan? Is it hot? Humid? Sunny or rainy?

Hi guys,

Wow! What a surprise! I just found the email a few minutes ago. It does change my plans a bit -- I'll probably have to move into my apartment a month early. It's kind of exciting to start over a month early; I've been wondering how I'd get through the summer.

On the down side, I'd been planning to work a lot of hours this summer (the overtime adds up fast) to buy some things for my apartment. I'm not sure if I'll be able to work when class starts. On the Fall schedule from class of 08, Gross was 4x/week, and theirs wasn't a condensed class. I'm also wondering if I should commute for the summer semester since I only live 1.5 hours away. I'm thinking not, because I'm not going to want the distraction of home.

I'd also planned some small vacations (Mackinac Isl/Tahquamenon Falls and maybe a week in Montana and Colorado). I guess I'll have to try do them earlier!

catcha later...I'm going to break the news to my bf

raDiOnut

This makes me even more pleased with MSUCOM, it's really a school that seems to care about it's students. The only other school I visited that did similarly with their curriculum was SUNY Upstate, they tapered their course load so that first semester was "easier." I think it's awesome!

Can't wait to start in the summer!
What is it like during the summer in mid-state Michigan? Is it hot? Humid? Sunny or rainy?

The weather is usually hot and a little humid (the humidity is worst in late July/August) -- shouldn't be too bad, probably mid to high 70s most days, with the occasional thunderstorm. July is usually a pretty nice month.

raDiOnut

As a current MSUCOM student, from what we have heard, your class will be taking anatomy in the fall in order to lighten up an excruciating load in the fall. It should make your fall semester considerably less stressful.

That sounds wonderful! I've been trying to mentally prepare my husband for the first semester schedule and home life adjustments. I would still expect it to be rough, but maybe a little more manageable if it is a lighter load. Keep us posted if you overhear anything interesting. Thanks!

is anyone ready to reschedule our get-together at Harrison's? I can be free any Saturday/Sunday

raDiOnut

I'm pretty much free any weekend as well. We should check out the basketball schedule and plan around that.

Hey All,

I havent been around in a while. My internet is goofy so havent been on. I too am excited about starting early. Caught a little of guard though! :eek:
I need to get off my butt and get to Lansing to find an apt asap! Well I hope to see you guys sometime before July! Keep me posted on the get together. :thumbup:

See Ya!

As a current MSUCOM student, from what we have heard, your class will be taking anatomy in the fall in order to lighten up an excruciating load in the fall. It should make your fall semester considerably less stressful.
Great to hear; thanks!

Still no email for me, so I called the Admin office and had a copy forwarded. I spoke with Lorie who reiterated futruedo32's statement; but was unsure how MSUCOM planned to address orientation? Cramming anatomy into 7 weeks seems a bit challenging but I'm up for it if it reduces the stress of the fall semester.

Thanks again to all here on sdn for the head's up.

-WM

you guys should be happy with this change, it will make your fall load a little easier, but thats not why it was done. you most likely will have all of your clinical skills and DPR classes in the first term (usually spread out over two terms) as well as maybe take epidemiology first term. the push to change the curriculum is so that you all will be done with didactic work in may of year 2, take comlex in june, and be able to begin hospital rotations july 1. that gives you two more months in the hospitals than current students at COM (we start aug 29), and is a huge advantage because it means more possible out rotations. the anatomy course should be a breeze now, two hours a day of lecture and 3 days of lab a week, thats eazy time there... gl!

...you most likely will have all of your clinical skills and DPR classes in the first term...you all will be done with didactic work in may of year 2, take comlex in june, and be able to begin hospital rotations july 1. that gives you two more months in the hospitals than current students at COM...means more possible out rotations...
Ratch,
Thanks for the breakdown & information; much appreciated.

kindly,
-WM

Did everyone get today's e-mail? It basically just says that the course will run July 11-August 25. The purpose is to lighten up the fall semester. Orientation will be July 7,8. Hope this helps.

Hello everyone!
Starting so much earlier has changed our plans for buying a home over summer. We won't have our Marquette property sold in time I don't think. So, to be on the safe side we are going to look at renting the first year.
Medic 170, did they put married folks with kids right in with everyone else on campus, or were they given there own area? What you have described thus far sounds terrible! We are very much backwoods folks, and I was hoping we could live out of town a ways, keep our chickens and all. What is the driving like if you were to come in each day from some of the surrounding towns? Would they have rentals? Anyone know of a nice organic farm with a vacant trailer for rent (ok, now i am dreaming!).
What are good sources of listings for rental houses in the general area? Is there a website?

I wonder how the summer class will change the scedule of those of us considering the extended program?

-Dan

Did everyone get today's e-mail? It basically just says that the course will run July 11-August 25. The purpose is to lighten up the fall semester. Orientation will be July 7,8. Hope this helps.
Ah, the saga continues...still no email(s) for me; bummer! At least I received the secondary application email. Marie, thank you once again for the post. I am very grateful to be kept in the loop. I will have to call the Admin office again to see wtf?!?
Thanks,
-WM

I'm going apartment shopping this Saturday. I'm going to check out Briarcliffe first. I'm impressed with what I see online so far, so I'm going to have my bf check it out with me. I'm not sure where else I'll look at. I'll have to do some more online surfing. So far, I've looked at the online descriptions of mostly AIMCO properties. I've checked out the MSU Apartment Search, but I'm not really impressed with my results there.

I'm glad our orientation is only July 7-8. My 21st b-day is the 9th and I already had plans made :D

raDiOnut

I'm looking for a roommate for my 3 bedroom house. The only downside to the house is that I live in Perry, or about a 20 minute drive to campus. Upside is you will have your own garage stall, your own bedroom, and I'm working on a 2nd bath so probably your own bathroom by July, you'll have privacy as my closest neighbor is 1/4 mile away. If this sounds appealing at all please email me at forreala@yahoo.com to discuss.

It's a very beautiful home with a fireplace, hardwood floors and finished basement with a treadmill and weight bench.

See you in July, can't wait to get started!!

Scott

I'm looking for a roommate for my 3 bedroom house. The only downside to the house is that I live in Perry, or about a 20 minute drive to campus. Upside is you will have your own garage stall, your own bedroom, and I'm working on a 2nd bath so probably your own bathroom by July, you'll have privacy as my closest neighbor is 1/4 mile away. If this sounds appealing at all please email me at forreala@yahoo.com to discuss.

It's a very beautiful home with a fireplace, hardwood floors and finished basement with a treadmill and weight bench.

See you in July, can't wait to get started!!

Scott

How much for rent?

Hello everyone!
Starting so much earlier has changed our plans for buying a home over summer. We won't have our Marquette property sold in time I don't think. So, to be on the safe side we are going to look at renting the first year.
Medic 170, did they put married folks with kids right in with everyone else on campus, or were they given there own area? What you have described thus far sounds terrible! We are very much backwoods folks, and I was hoping we could live out of town a ways, keep our chickens and all. What is the driving like if you were to come in each day from some of the surrounding towns? Would they have rentals? Anyone know of a nice organic farm with a vacant trailer for rent (ok, now i am dreaming!).
What are good sources of listings for rental houses in the general area? Is there a website?

I wonder how the summer class will change the scedule of those of us considering the extended program?

-Dan

Try Perry, Mason, or Dewitt. Those are all a ~20 minute drive and I would expect rent to be cheaper out there than in Lansing/E. Lansing. I would suggest just renting a newspaper, or go to the Lansing State Journal website and look under houses for rent. I think the site is www.lansingstatejournal.com

edit-OK I did a search http://vh80040.vh8.infi.net/osform/MVCCService?osform_template=%2Fstandard%2Fquery.of t&publication=lansing&category=RealEstateRentalsForRentHomes&displayCount=50

If you go to 'homes for sale' section on the site, a map will pop up showing you where the towns are in proximity to Lansing, as well as which county they are in.
On that page there is one on Haslett Rd (which I'm guessing is in Haslett, my old town-and very close to MSU and E. Lansing) on ten acres, for $795/month.

Good Luck :luck:

Does anyone have any other suggestions for apartments I could check out (other than AIMCO apts -- some of those are already on the list)? I went to apartmentratings.com, but I'm not finding a whole lot else. advice, anyone?

raDiOnut

Does anyone have any other suggestions for apartments I could check out (other than AIMCO apts -- some of those are already on the list)? I went to apartmentratings.com, but I'm not finding a whole lot else. advice, anyone?

raDiOnut

Did you try here? http://www.apartments.com/search/oasis.dll?p=lansing&Area4=Y&page=SubArea&state=MI&rgn4=13&partner=lansing&prvpg=3

How much for rent?
And what you think is fair for what you want out of the house. I'd like to get $600/month plus utilities and you'd get your own bathroom, your own garage stall, your pick of the three bedrooms and access to massive amounts of storage.

If you want to use all three bedrooms and have me move into the basement, which I'm willing to do, and want to use two of the three garage stalls then I'd want $1200/month plus Utilities.

But if you at all interested please send me an email, these prices are negotiable and I will entertain resonable offers and will be more than happy to send pics or show the house. I just want to live with another med student so we could commute on occasion.

Send me an email forreala@yahoo.com

Thanks,

Scott

I decided to apply for campus housing. I put down cherry lane as my first choice and Spartan village as my second. Rent is around $550 for a one bedroom furnished apartment, and its graduate housing only so i dont expect it to be too noisy. In addition, the CATA bus runs regularly. It seems fine to me, although i have heard some opposition to campus housing. Anyone else going for it?

yposhelley,

thanks for the link. I found 2 more I'm going to check out (Nemoke Trails, Dover's Crossing)

later, raDiOnut

call the school and ask for the packet of information that was sent to last years incoming class for orientation, which contained a bunch of info compiled by students about where they live and the + and - of living there, along with costs and what not. i would think it is still around somewhere in the admissions office. its a good way to find out about out of the way places that are not listed in the apartment guides, or places you wouldn't think to look. call linda and ask her, she might be able to help. otherwise kathy would know the list i am talking about, you can ask her if its still available.

Ah, the saga continues...still no email(s) for me; bummer! At least I received the secondary application email. Marie, thank you once again for the post. I am very grateful to be kept in the loop. I will have to call the Admin office again to see wtf?!?
Thanks,
-WM
I hear ya, no email for me either about the recent developments. I had to call and have the last one forwarded to me, it makes the paranoid little voice in my head (the one created from two application cycles) scream that it's because I'm not really accepted or they crossed me off the lists... :scared:

Luckily, I'm not listening...much...I'll be calling tomorrow again... :rolleyes:

Yeah, Briarcliffe sounds best for me too. Calling tomorrow to place a deposit...maybe we can get a study group started there...that would be awesome :D

...it makes the paranoid little voice in my head scream...
Ditto on the paranoia. I keep checking my email and sdn oh, let's conservatively say...hmmmm....every other hour. Obsess much?!?! Damn you technology!!!


Yeah, Briarcliffe sounds best for me too...maybe we can get a study group started there...that would be awesome
If I end up there, or close by; I'm down for an 'in-house' study group.

-WM

I'll give you all my report on Briarcliffe after I check it out this Sat. I talked to the sales rep, and he said they have a "sale" on 1 bedroom apts for $519. I'm going to see if that's a legit offer and if I like the place, I'll prolly go with that. It would be fun if a bunch of us ended up there -- I'm always for study groups.

later, raDiOnut

radionut; if you are going to briarcliffe, then really close by is the place my wife and i live, and its new and nice. call 272-1000 and i am sure they will let you take a look on saturday (and give you directions, the place is not listed in the apartments guide); but you need to call them today (friday), early. gl.

radionut; if you are going to briarcliffe, then really close by is the place my wife and i live, and its new and nice. call 272-1000 and i am sure they will let you take a look on saturday (and give you directions, the place is not listed in the apartments guide); but you need to call them today (friday), early. gl.

Hi ratch, I'll give them a call. What's the name of the complex you live at? If I don't like any of the apts I check out tomorrow, I'm planning to call MSU and ask for that packet you mentioned so I can get more ideas.

later, raDiOnut

yup, I got the official letter in the mail yesterday. Class starts on July 11th. :eek:

yup, I got the official letter in the mail yesterday. Class starts on July 11th. :eek:

Just wanted to mention 2 things, I have been off sdn for awhile.

1. I am moving to briarcliff in may.
2. to whoever was applying for on campus apartments...DON'T DO IT. I LIVE THERE NOW AND IT SUCKS, IT IS VERY NOISY. It is a all pampered athletes, a few undergrads, and a FEW foreign grad students. It has literally been HELL living here and the management and cops WILL NOT reprimand athletes.

I currently live in Homestead and for the most part I love it! I have a 3rd floor apt, with fireplace, new carpeting, etc.. for $632/month. I have a two bedroom by myself. I found that to be a really good deal. It's about 4.5 miles from campus (14 min from apt to lecture).

let me know if you want more information about homestead!

PS, the office staff are way too nice. but they aren't hiding anything, I think they just really like their jobs for some strange reason. I was puzzled by it at first also.

I would also say avoid Berrytree. These are super close to where your lectures are, and really close to Fee. (probably one of the closest). They are way overpriced and a ton of med students chm/com live there, so you can never get away!!!

;) Just wanted to mention 2 things, I have been off sdn for awhile.

1. I am moving to briarcliff in may.
2. to whoever was applying for on campus apartments...DON'T DO IT. I LIVE THERE NOW AND IT SUCKS, IT IS VERY NOISY. It is a all pampered athletes, a few undergrads, and a FEW foreign grad students. It has literally been HELL living here and the management and cops WILL NOT reprimand athletes.

Hey, Medic! Haven't heard from you for awhile. Did you have your CHM interview yet? I missed the Wayne State interview.

This might sound like a stupid question (especially for a premed student), but my brother and I were wondering last night whether they store blood cold or warm. I thought it would be kept about body's temp, but he thought it was cold. Humorously, what started this was watching a vampire movie where they were drinking chilled blood. heh. I figured a paramedic would know. ;)

Just wanted to mention 2 things, I have been off sdn for awhile.

1. I am moving to briarcliff in may.
2. to whoever was applying for on campus apartments...DON'T DO IT. I LIVE THERE NOW AND IT SUCKS, IT IS VERY NOISY. It is a all pampered athletes, a few undergrads, and a FEW foreign grad students. It has literally been HELL living here and the management and cops WILL NOT reprimand athletes.

Medic, you have managed to scare me away from campus housing....I want to join the briarcliffe crew. If anyone went to see the one bedroom apartments at briarcliffe please let me know. Does CATA go to briarcliffe?

Medic, you have managed to scare me away from campus housing....I want to join the briarcliffe crew. If anyone went to see the one bedroom apartments at briarcliffe please let me know. Does CATA go to briarcliffe?
We'll be happy to have you!

I'm waiting for raDiOnut's report from his expedition earlier today. Also, they lowered their prices again! I got an email from Chad that the 1 bedroom is less than $500/month!

I just don't know if that means that's the price as long as I live there, or it goes back to the norm after a set amount of time. Anyone know about that? I emailed Chad back and he hasn't responded. I guess I'll call tomorrow.

From what I've heard from Medic and the people at Briarcliffe, the CATA bus goes by q10mins and it takes 15-20mins to get to Fee Hall. Sound good to me, and if you get a car later on, it's a 5min drive or so. Very close!

Happy Apartment Hunting!

ps everyone, got the letter from MSUCOM today with more specifics about the class! Whew! Awesome! I'm in the loop :D

YPO, I was just wondering, did you ever decide btwn CHM and COM?

We'll be happy to have you!

I'm waiting for raDiOnut's report from his expedition earlier today. Also, they lowered their prices again! I got an email from Chad that the 1 bedroom is less than $500/month!

I just don't know if that means that's the price as long as I live there, or it goes back to the norm after a set amount of time. Anyone know about that? I emailed Chad back and he hasn't responded. I guess I'll call tomorrow.

From what I've heard from Medic and the people at Briarcliffe, the CATA bus goes by q10mins and it takes 15-20mins to get to Fee Hall. Sound good to me, and if you get a car later on, it's a 5min drive or so. Very close!

Happy Apartment Hunting!

ps everyone, got the letter from MSUCOM today with more specifics about the class! Whew! Awesome! I'm in the loop :D


Thank you, so when does everyone plan on moving in. I was thinking mid june. I wonder if I can pay rent for just half a month.

Hi everybody,

I survived my apartment shopping expedition yesterday :D I went to Briarcliffe, Dover's Crossing, and Nemoke Trails. After visiting all 3, I decided to sign on w/ Briarcliffe. I paid the $200 to join the "future residents club" and I'll be moving in July 1st. Briarcliffe is ~1mi off US 127 and about 5-10min from Fee (not sure exactly how far, because I took a roundabout way to get to Fee yesterday). It's very easy to find your way around Briarcliffe and the area (btw, Meridian Mall is just a couple miles away).

I went to Briarcliffe first, and Amanda gave me the tour. The rates have been lowered (temporarily) to $479/mo for the 1 bedroom apartments (790ft sq). This rate lasts for the term of your lease (1yr in my case). That was by far the cheapest of the 3 apartments and also the largest of the apartments I saw. The kitchen comes w/ a dishwasher, stove, fridge, garbage disposal, lots of cabinets and counter space. The apts use gas heat I believe and utilities are extra. One of the selling points for me was that there is a LOT of storage space -- a big linen closet, 2 closets in the bedroom [1 is walk-in], and each apartment has a fenced in part of the basement for storing bikes/grills/whatever. The living room/dining room was pretty big, and there's a ceiling fan in the dining room side.

Also, Briarcliffe's first floor apartments are not partly underground like the others were -- that was a plus. The pool was kind of interesting -- half indoors, half outdoors. It wasn't anything special, but it is a pool and the indoor part is open year round. The weight room has about half a dozen machines, just the basics. It is clean, though and doesn't smell.

I was not impressed at all w/ Dover's Crossing. The apartment was smaller, smelled bad, and the hallways were really dark. The room that the washer/dryer was in was like 100 degrees. The salesperson also took us to a dirty apartment! Needless to say, I didn't even take an application.

Nemoke Trails was nice, but more expensive and the apartment I could have afforded was almost 100ft sq less than the one at Briarcliffe. Nemoke was also a bit farther from MSU. If Nemoke had been cheaper, I might have picked it, but it was just a little too pricey for me.

So that's my report -- another A+ for Briarcliffe. Hope some more of you decide to join us there!

btw, medic I PM'ed you about Briarcliffe and the referral program

later,

raDiOnut/Therese

I survived my apartment shopping expedition yesterday...The rates have been lowered (temporarily) to $479/mo...
raDIOnut, thank you for all the info. I too was looking into Briarcliffe; great to hear...uh...read first hand about the apartments. I was planning to vist the L/EL area in March but with the change in schedule, decided wtf; I'll take a chance and go with my gut. So Friday, I spoke with Chad about the property and filled out an online application. I was sending my deposit tomorrow, but will have to call him about the $$; $479 seems very afforable. Well, it looks like another has joined the list of future residents. I plan to move on or near the 15th of June; it will be good to meet everyone irl. Thanks again to raDIOnut for all the leg work!!

ps everyone, got the letter from MSUCOM today with more specifics about the class! Whew! Awesome! I'm in the loop
btw....although via snail mail me too. I am so releived; now I just have to come up with da $$$.

-WM

raDIOnut, thank you for all the info. I too was looking into Briarcliffe; great to hear...uh...read first hand about the apartments. I was planning to vist the L/EL area in March but with the change in schedule, decided wtf; I'll take a chance and go with my gut. So Friday, I spoke with Chad about the property and filled out an online application. I was sending my deposit tomorrow, but will have to call him about the $$; $479 seems very afforable. Well, it looks like another has joined the list of future residents. I plan to move on or near the 15th of June; it will be good to meet everyone irl. Thanks again to raDIOnut for all the leg work!!


btw....although via snail mail me too. I am so releived; now I just have to come up with da $$$.

-WM

Yes, anyone signing up with briarcliff, please mention my name (Mike Mills)

Medic, you have managed to scare me away from campus housing....I want to join the briarcliffe crew. If anyone went to see the one bedroom apartments at briarcliffe please let me know. Does CATA go to briarcliffe?

CATA does go to briarcliff. If you do end up there, please mention me (Mike Mills) so I can get the referral. So, who all is moving to briarcliff now, can we get a list? I am moving in May with my wife to one of their townhomes.

Who'll be at Briarcliffe?

medic170
raDiOnut
(I'll let everybody else add their own names)

Who'll be at Briarcliffe?

medic170
raDiOnut
subtle1epiphany

Who'll be at Briarcliffe?
medic170
raDiOnut
subtle1epiphany
wisconsinmilf

please mention my name (Mike Mills)
I will be happy to.

-WM

Hi everybody,

I survived my apartment shopping expedition yesterday :D I went to Briarcliffe, Dover's Crossing, and Nemoke Trails. After visiting all 3, I decided to sign on w/ Briarcliffe. I paid the $200 to join the "future residents club" and I'll be moving in July 1st. Briarcliffe is ~1mi off US 127 and about 5-10min from Fee (not sure exactly how far, because I took a roundabout way to get to Fee yesterday). It's very easy to find your way around Briarcliffe and the area (btw, Meridian Mall is just a couple miles away).

I went to Briarcliffe first, and Amanda gave me the tour. The rates have been lowered (temporarily) to $479/mo for the 1 bedroom apartments (790ft sq). This rate lasts for the term of your lease (1yr in my case). That was by far the cheapest of the 3 apartments and also the largest of the apartments I saw. The kitchen comes w/ a dishwasher, stove, fridge, garbage disposal, lots of cabinets and counter space. The apts use gas heat I believe and utilities are extra. One of the selling points for me was that there is a LOT of storage space -- a big linen closet, 2 closets in the bedroom [1 is walk-in], and each apartment has a fenced in part of the basement for storing bikes/grills/whatever. The living room/dining room was pretty big, and there's a ceiling fan in the dining room side.

Also, Briarcliffe's first floor apartments are not partly underground like the others were -- that was a plus. The pool was kind of interesting -- half indoors, half outdoors. It wasn't anything special, but it is a pool and the indoor part is open year round. The weight room has about half a dozen machines, just the basics. It is clean, though and doesn't smell.

I was not impressed at all w/ Dover's Crossing. The apartment was smaller, smelled bad, and the hallways were really dark. The room that the washer/dryer was in was like 100 degrees. The salesperson also took us to a dirty apartment! Needless to say, I didn't even take an application.

Nemoke Trails was nice, but more expensive and the apartment I could have afforded was almost 100ft sq less than the one at Briarcliffe. Nemoke was also a bit farther from MSU. If Nemoke had been cheaper, I might have picked it, but it was just a little too pricey for me.

So that's my report -- another A+ for Briarcliffe. Hope some more of you decide to join us there!

btw, medic I PM'ed you about Briarcliffe and the referral program

later,

raDiOnut/Therese


Hey everyone,
I spoke to Chad and he told me that the $479/month is only for those who move in before March 1st. Is that what he told you? He said that if I want to move in in June I would have to pay $529/month. That sucks.

dashreda,

When I was at Briarcliffe, Amanda said that if I signed up for the "future resident's club" by paying the $200 hold-your-spot fee last Saturday, then I would be guaranteed the $479/mo when I start my lease July 1. If I didn't pay the $200, I wouldn't get the $479. I'll call them tomorrow to double check this.

later, raDiOnut

Hey everyone,
I spoke to Chad and he told me that the $479/month is only for those who move in before March 1st. Is that what he told you? He said that if I want to move in in June I would have to pay $529/month. That sucks.
dashreda,
Chad told me the same thing about the 5/1 move in date but...
...by paying the $200 hold-your-spot fee...I would be guaranteed the $479/mo when I start my lease
Ditto for me; so, I debited the deposit. I don't know if it made a difference, but I submitted the online application early Friday morning 1/28 and told him I would send the deposit on 1/31. In any event, I would call back; they seemed very nice and willing to work things out.
I hope this helps,
-WM

Has anyone bought an anatomy book yet? I'm wondering if the text listed as required last year is still recommended or if I should look for a different text. I'd like to get it soon so I can brush up a little bit. My father in law mentioned that 25 years ago he found his color atlas to be the best study guide.

Has anyone bought an anatomy book yet? I'm wondering if the text listed as required last year is still recommended or if I should look for a different text. I'd like to get it soon so I can brush up a little bit. My father in law mentioned that 25 years ago he found his color atlas to be the best study guide.

I am actually reading Moore's Clinically Oriented Anatomy which was recommended to me. The first chapter is a good review. I plan on reading just that chapter before July.

*sigh* I stopped by the MSUCOM medical bookstore the other day to see what kind of anatomy ref. books they had, but they were closed (it was a Saturday). I'm not sure how much I'll get to review before July. I'm trying to write an undergraduate thesis right now (miserable stuff) and finish my last few classes. It's just so frustrating to finish classes now that I know I'm accepted. This is especially true because these classes have little to do with med school -- ecology, intro to developmental psych for non-majors (more useful), independent study, thesis class, senior seminar in biology on race and racism, and intro to the drama (the worst). It just seems so pointless! Anyone else having senioritis?

Well, that's enough of my venting for the day, lol -- I just wish I didn't have to do these classes since they're not helping me

later all,

raDiOnut

prestudying for anatomy is not a good expenditure of your time, seriously, you will learn it very in-depth and a cursory glance over a text is time wasted. also, there isn't much need for an anatomy text because your coursepack for anatomy will be your bible (all the test Q's come from that sucker, and its the size of a textbook). and there is very little in anatomy that is hard to understand, its simply a matter of memorizing and figuring out how part A and part B work together (footnote: this does not include neuroanatomy), so another text really isn't that necessary for basic anatomy.
what you need to be doing is relaxing. trust me. you are gonna beaten like a pack mule for months on end, the last thing you need to do is beat yourself voluntarily. you will do just fine going into the summer not having cracked a text book - i didn;t and i don't know anyone who did, and i hadn't had anatomy in about 6 years. i know you all hear this but you really need to relax before school begins, its gonna be one of the last times you do for awhile. read a novel, my god i miss reading novels. anything that doesn't have a load of latin words in it. or fly a kite, whatever. but don't piss your final days away with a brand new copy of bigmoore. just show up on day one with a netter atlas, and if you need to buy more stuff, you can do so later, after you realize how you study best and what mediums work best for your learning...

*sigh* I stopped by the MSUCOM medical bookstore the other day to see what kind of anatomy ref. books they had, but they were closed (it was a Saturday). I'm not sure how much I'll get to review before July. I'm trying to write an undergraduate thesis right now (miserable stuff) and finish my last few classes. It's just so frustrating to finish classes now that I know I'm accepted. This is especially true because these classes have little to do with med school -- ecology, intro to developmental psych for non-majors (more useful), independent study, thesis class, senior seminar in biology on race and racism, and intro to the drama (the worst). It just seems so pointless! Anyone else having senioritis?

Well, that's enough of my venting for the day, lol -- I just wish I didn't have to do these classes since they're not helping me

later all,

raDiOnut

yeah, I had all my degree requirements done, so i took my last 2 classes for C, NC so I can be lazy


BTW, does anyone know, since we are starting in early july now, will we be getting our financial aid refunds early too?

I was wondering about financial aid too. You'd think it would be only fair to give us our loans early since things like housing are included in our budgets.

Has anyone checked out the MSUCOM scholarship website? There are a bunch of scholarships incoming students can apply for, but the deadline is March 1. That's coming up soon & I'm wondering why no one has told us to apply??? Most require letters of recommendation and a short essay. Here's a link to the website: [URL=http://com.msu.edu/ss/scholarships.html].

later,
raDiOnut

I was wondering about financial aid too. You'd think it would be only fair to give us our loans early since things like housing are included in our budgets.

Has anyone checked out the MSUCOM scholarship website? There are a bunch of scholarships incoming students can apply for, but the deadline is March 1. That's coming up soon & I'm wondering why no one has told us to apply??? Most require letters of recommendation and a short essay. Here's a link to the website: [URL=http://com.msu.edu/ss/scholarships.html].

later,
raDiOnut

You apply for most of those first year and they go back retro if you get them.

...BTW, does anyone know, since we are starting in early july now, will we be getting our financial aid refunds early too?
Medic,
I spoke with Judy Marks in the financial aid office; although yet to be confirmed, she felt that MSUCOM will register us as part-time students for the summer. If they do so, she felt that we should receive a prorated portion of our fall aid package about 1 business week (holiday notwithstanding) prior to 7/11; with the remainder of fall to be dispersed in the same manner prior to 8/29 and ditto for the spring (1/9ish). Anyway, this was her interpretation of the events as they stand today. So at least for now, it sounds as if we will receive some $$ for the summer…whoo hoo!!!

-WM

Medic,
I spoke with Judy Marks in the financial aid office; although yet to be confirmed, she felt that MSUCOM will register us as part-time students for the summer. If they do so, she felt that we should receive a prorated portion of our fall aid package about 1 business week (holiday notwithstanding) prior to 7/11; with the remainder of fall to be dispersed in the same manner prior to 8/29 and ditto for the spring (1/9ish). Anyway, this was her interpretation of the events as they stand today. So at least for now, it sounds as if we will receive some $$ for the summer…whoo hoo!!!

-WM
wait...if we're going to be part-timers in summer then that will be even more than they said the tuition would be...right?
ugh, how am i going to afford this? :scared:

wait...if we're going to be part-timers in summer then that will be even more than they said the tuition would be...right?
ugh, how am i going to afford this? :scared:
No; there is no additional tuition. Basically what Judy was saying is that in order for us to be eligible for financial aid, MSUCOM needs to decide upon our enrollment status; be it full or part time. At this point it is still undecided, but she felt that we would be classified as part time.
Irrespective of when the anatomy course is taken (July-Aug or Sem I with CHM) the tuition fees are part of our fall aid package not a separate or additional expense. The part time classification is simple the manner by which MSUCOM permits us to take course work for credit as well as provide aid.
Think of the fall/spring semesters as respective 4.5 month periods of time and summer as a 3 month time period. Since presenting the unique offer of summer anatomy, MSUCOM needs to change the method of aid dispersement. The summer course will cover approximately 1 month or roughly 22% of the fall semester. Accordingly, our fist aid dispersement (July) should be about 22% of fall's total with the second dispersement (Aug) comprising the remaining 78%.
Based upon 04-05 non-resident numbers, like my situation, one can expect MSI fall/spring to be $35,318 (tuition, books, & insurance). So, if you borrow the 9 month federal maximum of $38,500 there is a surplus of $3,182; $1,591 for fall and $1,591 for spring. In this case the fall may be split into the afore mentioned percentages; i.e., 22% = $350, 78% = $1,240 or....x & y%? Again, as of 2/4, the process is yet to be determined and this is simply an approximation which does not take into consideration private loans, scholarships, savings, etc. In any event, we will not need to budget for 'extra' tuition just some money for a hell of a lot of ramen noodles & kool-aid.


Hope this helps,
-WM

WM,

koolaid and ramen noodles, :D .... not me. Even if I had to give up my truck and walk to Fee, I'm going to be cooking real food. I've never had my own kitchen, and I'm already planning everything I'm going to be able to cook w/o having to share a kitchen with parents and 9 siblings.

lol, later

raDiOnut

Hey guys,

Is everyone still planning on meeting somewhere in EL anytime soon? I also am looking for a roomate that will be starting COM this year. If anyone is interested in sharing an apartment let me know, longtim1@msu.edu
I am looking for a non-smoking, neat person, who stills knows how to have fun when the time is right. I have also posted on the MSUCOM roomate list.

hey all - a friend of mine has a house to rent if anyone is interested. it is located a stones throw from sparrow hospital in the frandor area, probably a 5-7 minute drive from school, a quiet neighborhood, and newly remodeled kitchen and new paint and a bunch of other stuff. he would be a good guy to have as a landlord, and he would like to rent to med students if possible. anyways, please let me know if you are interested, i can give you more info.

hey all - a friend of mine has a house to rent if anyone is interested. it is located a stones throw from sparrow hospital in the frandor area, probably a 5-7 minute drive from school, a quiet neighborhood, and newly remodeled kitchen and new paint and a bunch of other stuff. he would be a good guy to have as a landlord, and he would like to rent to med students if possible. anyways, please let me know if you are interested, i can give you more info.


Ratch,
My husband and I will be moving to East Lansing for med school this Fall, and we are looking for a single family home. What you are descriing sounds perfect. When would your friend want someone to move in? What would the rent be? Any info would be great. Take care.

i sent you a private message, let me know if you did not receive it.
cheers :)

Hello,

I have a micro exam in the morning, but I am very ready to be done with this undergrad stuff and focus on the medical!
My wife and I are going to look for an apartment in the Haslett (sp?) or Okemos area during my spring break (first week of March). Guess we won't be able to afford a house the first year at least. We want to find an apartment that has some nice hiking trails near it so that I can take the kids for walks in the evenings or bike. Please let us know if there is such a place down there so we can check it out in March.
I am wondering if anyone else is considering the 5 year track?? I will probably do that so as to have more time to be with my family while my kids are still young. I don't want to be totally absent while they are this age (9, 7, and 5), later they will understand better.
I wonder what sort of things you are into? I do some of the following when I get time: Fiddle, fiddle, fiddle, (some guitar too), make bows/arrows and hunt, study nutrition/herbs/etc., play in the woods.

See you all later,

Dan Cote'
Marquette

I'm just wondering how many of you have considered specialties yet? I'm becoming more and more interested in psychiatry. I know this may change and I am very open to all fields of course, but I think I would be a good fit in psych. What is everyone else thinking about?

I'm just wondering how many of you have considered specialties yet? I'm becoming more and more interested in psychiatry. I know this may change and I am very open to all fields of course, but I think I would be a good fit in psych. What is everyone else thinking about?
Well, I'm relatively conflicted regarding my specialty, which I think is the best for me. This way I'll be forced to explore all the possibilities.

Previously I've been through "phases" where I wanted to do:
Psychiatry
Neurology
Surgery

As of now I'm interested in:
Family Practice or Medicine-Pediatrics
General Internal Medicine
Cardiology
Nephrology
Medical Oncology
General Pediatrics
Pediatric Cardiology
Pediatric Nephrology
Pediatric Heme/Onc

I guess it really is the same pattern though, cardiovascular and renal systems and cancer. But I think that I want to have a practice involving whole families, children, adults, the elderly...everyone. I enjoy working with kids, but sometimes adults and elderly persons present the most challenging cases. Unfortunately it's not a possibility to do everything in that depth, both as there isn't a specialty for that and that would take twenty lifetimes to be trained in, especially considering a subspecialty.

Third year is going to be a blast for me, and I really can't wait until that time comes! :D

MSUCOM Students at Briarcliffe:
medic170
raDiOnut
wisconsinmilf

I'll be at Homestead it turns out :( , Chad said they've essentially run out of 1 bedrooms and I want to live on my own for the first year for many reasons. But I'll visit you guys and maybe we'll have study groups together, the CATA bus line goes to both complexes :D .

I totally agree. I think I am going to love every rotation I do. Every system we studied in physiology I was fascinated by. I'm 26 though, and pursuing a subspecialty may not be very practical for me. My husband is anxious to start a family so I hope that I like something requiring fewer years in residency. I realize it's just a job at that point, but I want to have control as soon as possible.

I looked at Homestead the other day and I really liked them alot. I am trying to decide where to live next year, but just to let you guys know Homestead is running good deals for move ins in June.

MSUCOM Students at Briarcliffe:
medic170
raDiOnut
wisconsinmilf

I'll be at Homestead it turns out :( , Chad said they've essentially run out of 1 bedrooms and I want to live on my own for the first year for many reasons. But I'll visit you guys and maybe we'll have study groups together, the CATA bus line goes to both complexes :D .

My stepson plays in a premier select league (U-12), and I would like to find him a comparable program and level of competition. I have checked the Michigan State Youth Soccer Association website, but did not see any information listed for teams in the metro Lansing area or in his age bracket; I guess he could always play up a couple of years. Does anyone know of a first-rate youth soccer program in the metro Lansing area?

In addition to playing soccer, he plays baseball for his local little league team as well as for an intra-state traveling team. I checked the little league web page and Lansing visitor’s page; but did not find any information; does Lansing have a youth traveling baseball team? Any help would be appreciated greatly.

I know that we will be busy studying, but anyone up for intramural or adult league play? I’ll play soccer, baseball, softball, football, volleyball, whatever.

Thanks,
-WM

WM, I'm always up for IM soccer or volleyball. At my undergrad, I used to play intramural indoor soccer and it was a lot of fun.

I'm slowly recovering from a week with a respiratory flu. I've been in bed most of the time, missed a lot of school and work. It was a pretty bad strain cuz I'm still totally drained, with 0 appetite and a horrible hacking cough. SO, I'm trying to get over it and play catch-up before spring break in a couple of weeks.

marie, s'far as a specialty, right now I'm leaning toward Emergency. Like you said, that could change once we hit rotations, and I'm all for considering other specialties.

later all -- Shakespeare exam to study for

raDiOnut

WM, I'm always up for IM soccer or volleyball. At my undergrad, I used to play intramural indoor soccer and it was a lot of fun.

I'm slowly recovering from a week with a respiratory flu. I've been in bed most of the time, missed a lot of school and work. It was a pretty bad strain cuz I'm still totally drained, with 0 appetite and a horrible hacking cough. SO, I'm trying to get over it and play catch-up before spring break in a couple of weeks.

marie, s'far as a specialty, right now I'm leaning toward Emergency. Like you said, that could change once we hit rotations, and I'm all for considering other specialties.

later all -- Shakespeare exam to study for

raDiOnut

Sorry to hear you are ill; I hope you are quickly on the mend.
Good luck on the exam,
-WM

HI everybody,

are you guys ready to pick a date to meet in E. Lansing??? All weekends are open for me for the most part until May. March 12 7PM sound good to anyone? (it's a random date...just wanted to get some dates out there)

Any other days to suggest???

lata,

raDiOnut

BTT is that weekend in Chicago, but i dont't know how many of you care about basketball. Just thought I would mention it.





HI everybody,

are you guys ready to pick a date to meet in E. Lansing??? All weekends are open for me for the most part until May. March 12 7PM sound good to anyone? (it's a random date...just wanted to get some dates out there)

Any other days to suggest???

lata,

raDiOnut

Hi Future Classmates,

I need some help with this student loan stuff. So far I have filled out a FAFSA, and it has been submitted, I was just curious what the next step is. I know I need a loan for every living expense I have. I am a little freaked out cause I am moving into my apartment in June, and will not have a job at this time. Will we get our loan money by then. I know I am clueless, but I guess what I am asking is what is the next step after the FAFSA?

HELP! :scared:

Hi Future Classmates,

I need some help with this student loan stuff. So far I have filled out a FAFSA, and it has been submitted, I was just curious what the next step is. I know I need a loan for every living expense I have. I am a little freaked out cause I am moving into my apartment in June, and will not have a job at this time. Will we get our loan money by then. I know I am clueless, but I guess what I am asking is what is the next step after the FAFSA?

HELP! :scared:


The next step is simply to wait. The finaid office will process things in April and they will get in touch with you for your award notice. As far as june goes, you likely will not get a refund check before July, so start saving for that first month rent.

The next step is simply to wait. The finaid office will process things in April and they will get in touch with you for your award notice. As far as june goes, you likely will not get a refund check before July, so start saving for that first month rent.


Thanks Medic. PS, I am moving to briarcliffe. :p

Oh, and Medic, does the refund check typicaly cover your whole semester books, tuition, rent, etc? Or do you usualy need to get another loan along with the refund check? For the average person, how much is this check usualy? Sorry for all the questions!

Thanks!

Oh, and Medic, does the refund check typicaly cover your whole semester books, tuition, rent, etc? Or do you usualy need to get another loan along with the refund check? For the average person, how much is this check usualy? Sorry for all the questions!

Thanks!

Here is a link that will tell you exactly what you get, although they have not worked out the disbursment adjustment for starting early yet. Your refund check is all the aid awarded for that semester, minus your tuition and fees, so assuming you get the full stafford loans set, it would be around $20,000 to $25,000 for the year divided up by semester.

http://finaid.msu.edu/med/budcom.asp

BTW, be sure to mention my name at briarcliff for the referral (Mike Mills)..thanks!

I filled it out and submitted the FAFSA online, and I have filed my taxes. Does anyone know if I am supposed to send a copy of my federal tax return to FAFSA, or if I just need to provide a copy for my school? (It has been over three years since I filled one of those things out and I can't remember!)

-Thanks!

I filled it out and submitted the FAFSA online, and I have filed my taxes. Does anyone know if I am supposed to send a copy of my federal tax return to FAFSA, or if I just need to provide a copy for my school? (It has been over three years since I filled one of those things out and I can't remember!)

-Thanks!

You don't need a copy of your tax returns for either one. You are all set.

You don't need a copy of your tax returns for either one. You are all set.

Thanks! :thumbup:

Hi everyone,

My wife and I will be coming down the first week of March to look for a place to rent. What kind of drive would it be (with traffic) from the town of St. John's? Someone told me things are cheaper up that way, but I don't want to waste a lot of time on the road.
Also, I was talking to my cousin ( a MS II at MSU-COM) about having time with my kids and considering the extended program. He said with Gross over the summer it should be way better and so I will probably stick with the regular program (thank god!!).

ok, see ya'll soon, kids are yelling for me!

-dan cote'

...I was talking to my cousin ( a MS II at MSU-COM) about having time with my kids and considering the extended program. He said with Gross over the summer it should be way better...
I assumed as much, but good to hear it reinforced.
Thanks Dan,
-WM

Thanks Medic. PS, I am moving to briarcliffe. :p
So now that makes it…
MSUCOM Students at Briarcliffe:
medic170
raDiOnut
wisconsinmilf
bp1043

subtle1epiphany,
what did you decide about Homestead?


-WM

Hi everyone,

My wife and I will be coming down the first week of March to look for a place to rent. What kind of drive would it be (with traffic) from the town of St. John's? Someone told me things are cheaper up that way, but I don't want to waste a lot of time on the road.
Also, I was talking to my cousin ( a MS II at MSU-COM) about having time with my kids and considering the extended program. He said with Gross over the summer it should be way better and so I will probably stick with the regular program (thank god!!).

ok, see ya'll soon, kids are yelling for me!

-dan cote'


Dan,
St Johns is pretty far, You would be looking at about a 30 to 40 minute commute. You may want to look closer.

Yes, that does sound too far. We will probably look around Okemos and other closer towns when we come down. I dont't think the Briarcliffs have 3 bedrooms, so that's kind of out.

Man, I can't wait to start!!

Any good hiking trails or public woods in the area (< than 5 or 6 miles)?

Ok, bye,

-Dan

Yes, that does sound too far. We will probably look around Okemos and other closer towns when we come down. I dont't think the Briarcliffs have 3 bedrooms, so that's kind of out.

Man, I can't wait to start!!

Any good hiking trails or public woods in the area (< than 5 or 6 miles)?

Ok, bye,

-Dan


Briarcliff does have 2 bedroom townhomes with a finished basement though



BTW, I thought I should let everyone know....after a lot of consideration, I have decided to attend the MD school here at MSU rather than the DO. I still look forward to having class with you folks and to studying basic sciences with you, so be sure to keep in touch, especially you briarcliff folks :D I'll be doing gross anatomy in the fall, so save your notes for me this summer :thumbup:

...after a lot of consideration, I have decided to attend the MD school here at MSU rather than the DO. I still look forward to having class with you folks and to studying basic sciences with you, so be sure to keep in touch, especially you briarcliff folks...
Medic,
Good luck with MSUCHM; ditto on the studying.
-WM

Medic,
Good luck with MSUCHM; ditto on the studying.
-WMAgreed!
Congrats on the choice btw great schools, I know you made the best choice! :D

WisconsinMilf -
I'm at Homestead, just have to send back their application forms and stuff, so while I won't be "next door" at Briarcliffe, I'll be around and just a bus ride away. :p

Mike,

Glad to hear that you made a choice you are comfortable with! I have two school pals up here in Marquette, one is going to attend COM with me and the other is going to CHM, BUT we know we'll be doing a lot of the same classes and that is cool. Both are awesome schools and I know a number of great doctors from each.

Thanks for all your help with us on this forum!

-Dan

PS- anyone know of hiking trails/ nature preserves in the Okemos or general area? My wife and I might try to rent a place near something like that so that I can take the kids for walks in the evening (and pretend we were back north!)

Dan -

There are very good hiking trails at a number of parks in the area. Lake Lansing Park North, Harris Nature Center (east of Okemos), Fenner Nature Center, William Burchfield Park are some of the better ones that my family likes. You might also consider joining the Potter Park zoo and/or Impression 5 Science Museum with your family (both in Lansing and both are reasonable $).

I can't believe that there are just about 4 months until anatomy begins. There is so much time, and so little to do; wait, strike that...reverse it. I don’t know about anyone else, but for me, 4.5 months seems far enough away; however, it always seems as if time is rapidly slipping through my fingers. I am looking forward to meeting everyone (IRL) and am excited about beginning our journey.

Lately, I have been so consumed with work, housing, packing, finances, etc. that I almost forgot about the immunization requirements. Fortunately, the nature of my current job has many of the same requirements; so, I only needed the Td and confirmation of a negative Tb. Just in case this has slipped the mind of anyone else, some immunizations are required in series; e.g., Hep B., so if needed, there should be plenty of time to meet the July 1st requirement.

later,
-WM

http://www.com.msu.edu/ss/immunizations.html#requirements
http://www.com.msu.edu/ss/forms/immune_forms.html

WM,

I know what you mean -- I've been counting down the days although I know I'm going to be wishing I was back in undergrad in a few months. Eric (my bf)and I are going on a roadtrip out West in May after we both graduate, so planning for that is helping me pass the time. We're planning 2 wks between Yellowstone, Glacier Nat'l Park, Grand Tetons, Badlands and Black Hills. We decided to spend the money and take the trip because it's the last chance we're going to have for quite awhile.

On Tues, me and Eric checked out Cooley Law School where he'll be this Fall. It's a pretty nice place, very nice buildings. We also went to a Chinese place next to Briarcliffe -- it's ok, better than most buffets, worse than most regular Chinese -- def. doesn't get much business. I'd recommend the Mongolian Beef. Leo's Lodge is right next to it...I'm def. checking that out this summer.

Has anyone heard anything about the MSUCOM spring Open House? I think it's usually in April. I went 2ya, and was kinda thinking about going this year if they're still having it. The only part of the Open House I'd really be interested in this year might be the Q/A session with upperclassmen that they do. Anyone else thinking about going?

I finally did my FAFSA this morning. I had to be in to work at 6AM and figured I might as well get on the pc at work and do it. (In Lapeer Co. EMS, you get a lot of downtime.). Is anyone including their parents' info on their FAFSA?????

later all,
Therese

Dan -

There are very good hiking trails at a number of parks in the area. Lake Lansing Park North, Harris Nature Center (east of Okemos), Fenner Nature Center, William Burchfield Park are some of the better ones that my family likes. You might also consider joining the Potter Park zoo and/or Impression 5 Science Museum with your family (both in Lansing and both are reasonable $).

Thanks for posting that. I am from the Lansing area, but after moving back here in August after being away for 6 years, I have been bummed out trying to find hiking trails. :thumbup:

raDiOnut,

Thank you for the restaurant review; if you (or anyone) know of a great place for sushi (or a suitable fish market), please let me know. Good luck with the remainder of UG. Your trip sounds great; I used to live in Montana, GNP is awesome. I am heading to Las Vegas this weekend for some much needed 'rest'.

I was just reading about the open house; unfortunately, I am unable to make it the weekend of the 22nd, but it sounds interesting. http://www.com.msu.edu/admissions/openhouse.html

FYI, I did not include my parental information on my FAFSA; I am 35, so I did not feel it pertinent to my financial status.

kindly,

-WM