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medstudent3563

02-28-2005, 04:52 AM

I just received my acceptance letter yesterday... can't wait until August

You won't be as excited and motivated a year from now. Be prepared to waste 100-120 hours of your life studying Dr Stepp's physiology packets which won't help you during your 2nd year (which is all systems pathophysiology) or during the boards. See the following threads:

Dr Stepp, NYCOM's Crappy Physiology Professor Extraordinaire (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=182649)

NYCOM- the school with ONLY an 80% 1st-time board pass rate (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=181853)

I know step 1 of the boards seems like a long ways away for you guys (and, frankly, for you gusy it is) but this time next year it will definately be on your mind and you will hate NYCOM for wasting your time on such low-yield Physiology.

Oh BTW, this Dr Stepp I talk about, he has a PhD in BIOCHEMISTRY yet teaches PHYSIOLOGY .

My advice to people who got accepted into NYCOM? If you were accepted into CCOM, PCOM, NOVA, UMDNJ-COM or to any US allopathic school, go there. They beat NYCOM.

But if NYCOM is the best you can do then prepare to waste 100+ hours of your life on 'Physiology' you probably won't even use (even for the boards).

Cowboy DO

02-28-2005, 05:46 AM

You won't be as excited and motivated a year from now. Be prepared to waste 100-120 hours of your life studying Dr Stepp's physiology packets which won't help you during your 2nd year (which is all systems pathophysiology) or during the boards. See the following threads:

Dr Stepp, NYCOM's Crappy Physiology Professor Extraordinaire (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=182649)

NYCOM- the school with ONLY an 80% 1st-time board pass rate (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=181853)

I know step 1 of the boards seems a long ways away (and it is for you guys) but this time next year it will definately be on your mind and you will hate NYCOM for wasting your time on such low-yield Physiology.

Oh BTW, this Dr Stepp I talk about, he has a PhD in BIOCHEMISTRY yet teaches PHYSIOLOGY .

My advice to people who got accepted into NYCOM? If you were accepted into CCOM, PCOM, NOVA, UMDNJ-COM or to any US allopathic school, go there. They beat NYCOM.

But if NYCOM is the best you can do then prepare to waste 100+ hours of your life on 'Physiology' you probably won't even use (even for the boards).

Dont listen to this looser. Im not sure what his problem is, anyone has questions about nycom feel free to pm me. It's a great school.

medstudent3563

02-28-2005, 02:20 PM

Dont listen to this looser. Im not sure what his problem is, anyone has questions about nycom feel free to pm me. It's a great school.

This guy has rose-colored glasses on. You guys want to know why he doesn't think there's anything wrong with NYCOM's Physiology course? Because he has an undergraduate degree in Physiology....he already knows it.

It doesn't bother him that Dr Stepp teaches a weird Biochemistry-Physiology hybrid that has waaaaaaaay too much biochemistry in it (there's definately some overlap between the two subjects, but Dr Stepp's version is of 'physiology' is just ridiculous; instead of calling the course 'Medical Physiology' they should call it Physio-Biochemistry or something. And there's a reason why NYCOM has a seperate Biochemistry course and a seperate Physiology course).

But if you've never taken a Physiology course before (as was the case with me as well as many of my fellow first-years) and are relying on NYCOM to teach you Medical Physiology then buddy, you are screwed! And prepare to teach yourself all the Physiology NYCOM failed to present you during the summer because all 2nd year is pathophysiology.

And if a student doesn't know standard medical Physiology (not Dr Stepp's weird biochemistry-heavy hybrid) then there's no way in hell they are going to do well in Pathophysiology. You need to know the 'normal' (learned in Physiology) before you can learn the 'abnormal' (Pathophysiology).

And the administration wonders why so many 2nd years struggle at NYCOM and so many NYCOMer's fail the boards their 1st time around. Being mistaught Physiology has A LOT to do with it.

Don't get me wrong, medical school is hard work. But I think the job of a medical school is to guide students, telling them what they need to know to become good doctors. Students are supposed to provide the hard work. But as far as Physiology goes at NYCOM, students are misled.

And that's made more unfortunate considering how incredibly important Physiology is in doing well in medicine (I really can't stress that enough).

So if you want to be mistaught Physiology by a Biochemistry PhD (Dr Stepp) then attend NYCOM. But my advice is if you were accepted into CCOM, PCOM, NOVA, UMDNJ-COM or any US allopathic school, go there. I think those schools are better than NYCOM.

NYCOM's a middling DO school (good 3rd and 4th year clinicals save it from being bottom of the barrel).

Don't say I didn't warn you.

ps- don't PM this clown if you have questions about NYCOM. Post them on this webboard so you can can both sides of the story. The rose-colored glasses version and the real version.

Dreamer

02-28-2005, 02:30 PM

This guy has rose-colored glasses on. You guys want to know why he doesn't think there's anything wrong with NYCOM's Physiology course? Because he majored in Physiology....he already knows it.

It doesn't bother him that Dr Stepp teaches a weird Biochemistry-Physiology hybrid with waaaaaaaay too much biochemistry in it (there's definately some overlap between the two subjects, but Dr Stepp's version is of 'physiology' is just ridiculous; instead of calling the course 'Medical Physiology' they should call it Physio-Biochemistry or something. And there's a reason why NYCOM has a seperate Biochemistry course and a seperate Physiology course).

But if you've never taken Physiology before (like I and many other first-years have) and are relying on NYCOM to teach you medical Physiology then buddy, you are screwed! And prepare to teach yourself all the Physiology NYCOM failed to present you during the summer because all 2nd year is pathophysiology.

And if a student doesn't know standard medical Physiology (not Dr Stepp's weird biochemistry-heavy hybrid) then there's no way in hell they are going to do well in Pathophysiology. You need to know the 'normal' (learned in Physiology) before you can learn the 'abnormal' (Pathophysiology).

And the administration wonders why so many 2nd years struggle at NYCOM and so many NYCOMer's fail the boards their 1st time around. Being mistaught Physiology has A LOT to do with it.

Don't get me wrong, medical school is hard work. But I think the job of a medical school is to guide students, telling them what they need to know to become good doctors. Students are supposed to provide the hard work. But as far as Physiology goes at NYCOM, students are misled.

And that's made more unfortunate considering how incredibly important Physiology is in doing well in medicine (I really can't stress that enough).

So if you want to be mistaught Physiology by a Biochemistry PhD then attend NYCOM. But my advice is if you were accepted into CCOM, PCOM, NOVA, UMDNJ-COM or any US allopathic school, go there. I think those schools are better than NYCOM.

NYCOM's a middling DO school (good 3rd and 4th year clinicals save it from being bottom of the barrel).

Don't say I didn't warn you.

ps- don't PM this clown if you have questions about NYCOM. Post them on this webboard so you can can both sides of the story. The rose-colored glasses version and the real version.

Listen, medstudent, don't you have anything better to do than bitch here? The fact of a matter is that Physiology and Biochem are closely related, whether you like it or not. Dr. Stepp might be boring to listen to BUT he teaches, I can vouch for that and I did not take Physio since 1989.
What I do not understand is why don't you spend your energy on learning rather than complaining.

medstudent3563

02-28-2005, 02:38 PM

Listen, medstudent, don't you have anything better to do than bitch here? The fact of a matter is that Physiology and Biochem are closely related, whether you like it or not. Dr. Stepp might be boring to listen to BUT he teaches, I can vouch for that and I did not take Physio since 1989.
What I do not understand is why don't you spend your energy on learning rather than complaining.

He teaches!?! What lectures have you been going to!? Ask anybody, he reads straight from his packets. And if he teaches anything its not the medical physiology we need for 2nd year or the boards. Just look at how many 2nd years struggle and how crappy NYCOMer's do on the boards (relative to other schools).

medstudent3563

02-28-2005, 02:59 PM

This guy has rose-colored glasses on. You guys want to know why he doesn't think there's anything wrong with NYCOM's Physiology course? Because he has an undergraduate degree in Physiology....he already knows it.

It doesn't bother him that Dr Stepp teaches a weird Biochemistry-Physiology hybrid with waaaaaaaay too much biochemistry in it (there's definately some overlap between the two subjects, but Dr Stepp's version is of 'physiology' is just ridiculous; instead of calling the course 'Medical Physiology' they should call it Physio-Biochemistry or something. And there's a reason why NYCOM has a seperate Biochemistry course and a seperate Physiology course).

But if you've never taken Physiology before (like I and many other first-years have) and are relying on NYCOM to teach you medical Physiology then buddy, you are screwed! And prepare to teach yourself all the Physiology NYCOM failed to present you during the summer because all 2nd year is pathophysiology.

And if a student doesn't know standard medical Physiology (not Dr Stepp's weird biochemistry-heavy hybrid) then there's no way in hell they are going to do well in Pathophysiology. You need to know the 'normal' (learned in Physiology) before you can learn the 'abnormal' (Pathophysiology).

And the administration wonders why so many 2nd years struggle at NYCOM and so many NYCOMer's fail the boards their 1st time around. Being mistaught Physiology has A LOT to do with it.

Don't get me wrong, medical school is hard work. But I think the job of a medical school is to guide students, telling them what they need to know to become good doctors. Students are supposed to provide the hard work. But as far as Physiology goes at NYCOM, students are misled.

And that's made more unfortunate considering how incredibly important Physiology is in doing well in medicine (I really can't stress that enough).

So if you want to be mistaught Physiology by a Biochemistry PhD (Dr Stepp) then attend NYCOM. But my advice is if you were accepted into CCOM, PCOM, NOVA, UMDNJ-COM or any US allopathic school, go there. I think those schools are better than NYCOM.

NYCOM's a middling DO school (good 3rd and 4th year clinicals save it from being bottom of the barrel).

Don't say I didn't warn you.

ps- don't PM this clown if you have questions about NYCOM. Post them on this webboard so you can can both sides of the story. The rose-colored glasses version and the real version.

ps, ps- 'Physiology' at NYCOM is not a small course either. Its massive, in fact its NYCOM's longest course. It lasts 7 months of your first year, 5 of the 6 blocks during your first year. The course requires a massive time commitment.

And that's a big reason why I'm so peeved. So much study time (100+ hours), a lot of which is spent in vain (ie- not relevant to 2nd year or the boards).

Cowboy DO

02-28-2005, 04:46 PM

medstudent3563

02-28-2005, 05:44 PM

I think its best if everyone ignores this guy, he’s obviously trolling. Thanks for ruining a perfectly benign class of 2009 thread.

If anyone is perturbed by this and wants to talk PM me. You know your going to get his opinion wether you ask for it or not but I’m not responding to it anymore, there’s no point.

Trolling? No, no. I actually attend NYCOM and all I say comes from personal experience and the experiences of my fellow classmates.

And who cares about benign?! I think they want the truth- good, bad and ugly. Take off your rose-colored glasses and try to look outside yourself. Personally, I find it hilarious how you spit all this sunshine out of your as* about NYCOM when you know the ugly facts....the scores of 2nd years struggling, a large percentage of people failing the boards on their 1st attempt. I don't need to tell you, you know the ugly facts.

No sugar coating from me. I'm just telling it as it is.

J1515

02-28-2005, 06:22 PM

when you know the ugly facts....the scores of 2nd years struggling, a large percentage of people failing the boards on their 1st attempt. I don't need to tell you, you know the ugly facts.

It's real easy to blame the professors, eh? Perhaps they should start being more selective with who they admit and start looking for students who don't need to be spoonfed and won't whine and complain about everything. Just a thought.

Cowboy DO

02-28-2005, 06:24 PM

I love how its "facts" now too.

medstudent3563

02-28-2005, 09:06 PM

It's real easy to blame the professors, eh? Perhaps they should start being more selective with who they admit and start looking for students who don't need to be spoonfed and won't whine and complain about everything. Just a thought.

Spoonfed? I don't need to be spoonfed. Notice I haven't criticized Dr Youmans or Dr Yu (the other NYCOM physiology professors) because they actually want you to learn real medical physiology. At least with their material, a student can pick up a good physiology textbook or BRS to help understand the material. In lectures, Dr Yu and Dr Youmans are boring as hell but they want you to learn concepts in medical physiology. And if I’m not mistaken, Dr Yu and Dr Youmans actually have PhD’s in Physiology. Hey, what a concept! Your professor actually having a degree in the subject he’s teaching.

But that BIOCHEMISTRY PhD, Dr Stepp, is a totally different ballgame. Its not about concepts, its about memorizing his hybrid Biochemistry-Physiology handouts verbatim. And believe it or not, with Dr Stepp's material, consulting a physiology textbook is to your detriment because its all about his crappy handouts. We're not learning the medical Physiology we need (for 2nd year and the boards) with Dr Stepp.

Unfortunately Dr Stepp teaches the bulk (60-70%) of the 7-month long physiology course at NYCOM.

Dreamer

02-28-2005, 09:29 PM

Spoonfed? I don't need to be spoonfed. Notice I haven't criticized Dr Youmans or Dr Yu (the other NYCOM physiology professors) because they actually want you to learn real medical physiology. At least with their material, a student can pick up a good physiology textbook or BRS to help understand the material. In lectures, Dr Yu and Dr Youmans are boring as hell but they want you to learn concepts in medical physiology. And if I’m not mistaken, Dr Yu and Dr Youmans actually have PhD’s in Physiology. Hey, what a concept! Your professor actually having a degree in the subject he’s teaching.

But that BIOCHEMISTRY PhD, Dr Stepp, is a totally different ballgame. Its not about concepts, its about memorizing his hybrid Biochemistry-Physiology handouts verbatim. And believe it or not, with Dr Stepp's material, consulting a physiology textbook is to your detriment because its all about his crappy handouts. We're not learning the medical Physiology we need (for 2nd year and the boards) with Dr Stepp.

Unfortunately Dr Stepp teaches the bulk (60-70%) of the 7-month long physiology course at NYCOM.

I think something has to be clarified. Last semester, before the syallabus was amended, I printed it out. The old one containes the information about the faculty that the new one does not. I have the old one in front of me and I quote: Larry Stepp "received doctoral degree in physiology with minor in microbiology from Vanderbilt University." Dr. Youmans on the other hand received his "doctoral degree in medical biphysics with a moinor from Indiana University" You are right about Dr. Yu.
Also, BRS is not a study book, it is REVIEW book. So, after we cleared the facts about the faculty, something that took three threads, two of which were closed due to medstudent abusive language, I think it is time to apologize for polluting the thread of Class of 2009, for current stident rants should not scare incoming class or diminish their desire to study medicine. Granted, NYCOM has its issues, some of them are significant, but show me the school that does not.

medstudent3563

02-28-2005, 10:53 PM

I think something has to be clarified. Last semester, before the syallabus was amended, I printed it out. The old one containes the information about the faculty that the new one does not. I have the old one in front of me and I quote: Larry Stepp "received doctoral degree in physiology with minor in microbiology from Vanderbilt University." Dr. Youmans on the other hand received his "doctoral degree in medical biphysics with a moinor from Indiana University" You are right about Dr. Yu.
Also, BRS is not a study book, it is REVIEW book. So, after we cleared the facts about the faculty, something that took three threads, two of which were closed due to medstudent abusive language, I think it is time to apologize for polluting the thread of Class of 2009, for current stident rants should not scare incoming class or diminish their desire to study medicine. Granted, NYCOM has its issues, some of them are significant, but show me the school that does not.

I haven't seen those credentials, do you have the pdf file? Maybe you can email it to me. Besides, I'm not trying to diminish anyone's desire to study medicine, I'm just advising prospective students to think twice before choosing NYCOM.

Was going to write a longer response but I need to go to bed. Going to wake up early to go through one of Dr Stepps crappy handouts.

medstudent3563

03-01-2005, 04:56 AM

I think something has to be clarified. Last semester, before the syallabus was amended, I printed it out. The old one containes the information about the faculty that the new one does not. I have the old one in front of me and I quote: Larry Stepp "received doctoral degree in physiology with minor in microbiology from Vanderbilt University." Dr. Youmans on the other hand received his "doctoral degree in medical biphysics with a moinor from Indiana University" You are right about Dr. Yu.
Also, BRS is not a study book, it is REVIEW book. So, after we cleared the facts about the faculty, something that took three threads, two of which were closed due to medstudent abusive language, I think it is time to apologize for polluting the thread of Class of 2009, for current stident rants should not scare incoming class or diminish their desire to study medicine. Granted, NYCOM has its issues, some of them are significant, but show me the school that does not.

Better yet, if the pdf is unavailable and since you have this old syllabus, please just scan these ONE or TWO pages of the old syllabus for me and email me the jpeg(s)? I need to see this with my very own eyes. I'm a bit skeptical of your claims.

I dug up my copy of the old syllabus and class catalog and found no reference to credentials stating one way or the other. Sorry if this will be an inconvenience to you but I really need to see this for myself. Thanks.

medstudent3563

03-01-2005, 02:59 PM

Better yet, if the pdf is unavailable and since you have this old syllabus, please just scan these ONE or TWO pages of the old syllabus for me and email me the jpeg(s)? I need to see this with my very own eyes. I'm a bit skeptical of your claims.

I dug up my copy of the old syllabus and class catalog and found no reference to credentials stating one way or the other. Sorry if this will be an inconvenience to you but I really need to see this for myself. Thanks.

I'm sorry, I apologize. I actually talked to Dr Stepp in his office today (about something else) and I asked him. He does have a PhD in Physiology.

But that doesn't change my opinion that Dr Stepp's instruction of physiology at NYCOM is god-aweful. A serious disservice to NYCOM's 1st years.

Have to get back to studying. Good luck all and just consider what I've said in your final decisions on where to attend. Thanks and take care.

Cowboy DO

03-01-2005, 03:54 PM

I can respect that. Not everyone likes the same teacher. I think Dr. Stepp was a sweet old guy, but in truth i went to his class maybe half the time. This maybe was because I’ve done some of this stuff before, but I also think that his handouts are so conclusive that going to class seemed redundant if you were going to read them 4x's anyway. I think that’s his intention though, class is for people who are having difficulty or want to ask questions. Otherwise if you don’t mind reading a lot you're good to go.

Also Id like to point out that memorizing minutia in the basic science courses is the very nature of med school, and is not a unique characteristic of Dr. Stepp or NYCOM. Like I said though I respect your opinion, I didn’t like Dr. Yu. However it is by no means a reason to not pick nycom as a school to attend ( a factor maybe but it shouldn’t be your only reason). Best of luck to you, it really does get better I promise. The first 2 years are the most stressful years of medical school, we are under a lot of pressure to perform, you just have to grin and bear it. To you incoming first years, get ready for the ride of your life...:D

J1515

03-01-2005, 03:56 PM

And believe it or not, with Dr Stepp's material, consulting a physiology textbook is to your detriment because its all about his crappy handouts.

It's all in the handouts? You basically know exactly what you're going to be tested on rather than reading chapters and chapters of textbooks and hoping you studied and recall the right thing? That's called being spoonfed. So you spend 24/7 memorizing useless facts you'll never have to use as a doctor...welcome to medical school. It seems like with NYCOM's class being twice as large as the avg class size there are also twice as many whiners on this board.

medstudent3563

03-02-2005, 12:36 AM

It's all in the handouts? You basically know exactly what you're going to be tested on rather than reading chapters and chapters of textbooks and hoping you studied and recall the right thing? That's called being spoonfed. So you spend 24/7 memorizing useless facts you'll never have to use as a doctor...welcome to medical school. It seems like with NYCOM's class being twice as large as the avg class size there are also twice as many whiners on this board.

You're full of <expletive>, you don't know what you're talking about. You're an incoming right? That means you haven't attended one class at NYCOM, what do you know about how things are run at NYCOM!? You have no credibility.

We'll see in a year, when you're sweating Physiology whether you still think Dr Stepp spoonfeeds you. This time next year you'll be eating some serious crow.

medstudent3563

03-02-2005, 12:53 AM

It's all in the handouts? You basically know exactly what you're going to be tested on rather than reading chapters and chapters of textbooks and hoping you studied and recall the right thing? That's called being spoonfed. So you spend 24/7 memorizing useless facts you'll never have to use as a doctor...welcome to medical school. It seems like with NYCOM's class being twice as large as the avg class size there are also twice as many whiners on this board.

Besides <expletive>, its about how well the course prepares you for the Physiology on the boards.

And if a poll were taken among current NYCOM 2nd years asking how many of them are now using Dr Stepps handouts to prepare for Physiology boards, I would be shocked if the number were much more than zero. That's how worthless (after you complete the course) they are.

And keep in mind, 1st years are given 500-600 pages of these handouts and probably spend 120-150 hours studying them.

tkim

03-02-2005, 12:57 AM

this is getting to be out of hand. if you want to criticize a school or faculty, please do it in a constructive way.

if the sole reason you registered on SDN was to bash a school, there's no reason for your continued membership here.

medstudent3563

03-02-2005, 03:10 AM

Besides <expletive>, its about how well the course prepares you for the Physiology on the boards.

And if a poll were taken among current NYCOM 2nd years asking how many of them are now using Dr Stepps handouts to prepare for Physiology boards, I would be shocked if the number were much more than zero. That's how worthless (after you complete the course) they are.

And keep in mind, 1st years are given 500-600 pages of these handouts and probably spend 120-150 hours studying them.

ps- Sorry for blasting this incoming. But, in medicine, if you did what this guy did- which is to question someone who:

1) knows about the subject they’re talking about (in this case its the state of NYCOM’s Physio course)
2) is passionate about the subject matter (like I am)

then you’re going to get a negative reaction.

And if you’re doing it from a position of little knowledge and, especially, from a position of disrespect (like he did) then you’re going to get blasted.

J1515

03-02-2005, 03:48 PM

ps- Sorry for blasting this incoming. But, in medicine, if you did what this guy did- which is to question someone who:

1) knows about the subject they’re talking about (in this case its the state of NYCOM’s Physio course)
2) is passionate about the subject matter (like I am)

then you’re going to get a negative reaction.

And if you’re doing it from a position of little knowledge and, especially, from a position of disrespect (like he did) then you’re going to get blasted.

I honestly don't care what you think about this professor. I don't have to sit through a class and experience it to be able to tell you that I'm going to study my ass off and suck it up instead of being a whiny crybaby and complain to everyone who will listen. I'm going into medical school realizing that i'm going to study 1000's of pages of text that i'll never use again, I don't care. I'm going into this knowing that I won't like some professors and will think they're wasting my time, I don't care. I'm going into this knowing that maybe I will have to memorize some of the most uninteresting garbage in the world and won't have a second of free time to have a life, I don't care. I have a bunch of friends at NYCOM and some of them have told me there are things that suck there, yet they're still passing all their classes (and some with honors) and they don't spend all their time trying to persuade me not to go there. Nor do they spend their time b!tching and whining on a public message board because they think it's "worthless."

Doc2B-Finally

03-06-2005, 01:43 PM

Any one decided on lender yet for NYCOM?
Are we obligated to choose one from this list only?
http://www.fes.org/onlineap/easiapp/easiapp.asp?SID=00278202&SLT=S

tedd1212

03-06-2005, 10:28 PM

after seeing that some of you got your packets requesting the march payment I called NYCOM the other day to see where mine was. the admin lady said that they were waiting to see what kind of immunizations were going to be required of the 2009 students. once they decided on this they would send out the march payment request packets. she also said that if the packets don't get out in time they may push the deadline back a bit. thought this might be useful for anyone waiting to hear from other schools before shelling out 1000beans. :thumbup:

Biodork111

03-08-2005, 05:58 PM

tedd1212

03-08-2005, 06:47 PM

Is this true about the deposits? I called them yesterday to confirm when my march payment is due, they just said they were sending a letter out this week. Does that mean that the previous date (3/22) is nullified? If so that would be huge as I was just pounded with some unexpected expenses.

she said MAYBE if things didn't get sent out on time. it was contingent on when they got all their info together and sent out. sorry if i got your hopes up for nothing.

Ajooba10

03-09-2005, 08:31 AM

Is this true about the deposits? I called them yesterday to confirm when my march payment is due, they just said they were sending a letter out this week. Does that mean that the previous date (3/22) is nullified? If so that would be huge as I was just pounded with some unexpected expenses.
I also called about the letter requesting the second payment. They said there was a delay but they will be sent out and I can wait until I receive the letter before I send the payment. But you could always call again to make sure.

Biodork111

03-09-2005, 04:06 PM

The date I thought mine was due (3/22) is fine, I just also heard some people kicking around an earlier date...which would be pushing it. Granted I got myself into this mess (bought myself a car for a grad. present, and now I have to pay the taxes on it...gotta love NY), but it would be nice to have it put off a little bit. Maybe I'll try calling again, although they don't seem to like when I call. The woman practically yelled at me yesterday.

ornis4

03-14-2005, 09:37 PM

irishlaydi

03-15-2005, 08:25 AM

Just bumping this up...and also wondering who has decided on a lender for financial aid? I can't decide if it's really nice of them to give us so many choices, or if it's completely rude if one is better than the others. I've been looking stuff over all night and still can't really decide. I think maybe MEDLoans and Medinvest are two that stand out...but I can't decide. Anyone else decide or definitively determine which is best?

Hi. It took me forever to decide, but to me it looks like MedInvest is the best one. Someone else had said MedLoans looked good, but they have guaranter fees and origination fees. The medinvest doesn't and they have a better "cash back" deal (you get a certain % after each 12 payments ontime, something like that) whereas with other ones its not until 33 ontime payments...it just seemed the best once I figured all the numbers and such. The other one that I was deciding between was Total Higher Education (T.H.E) which a current med student on sdn was recommending to people. BUt that ones not on NYCOM's list, and MedINvest looked to be a better option. Just my opinion, hope it helps. :luck:

mblum151

03-15-2005, 08:55 AM

Hi. It took me forever to decide, but to me it looks like MedInvest is the best one. Someone else had said MedLoans looked good, but they have guaranter fees and origination fees. The medinvest doesn't and they have a better "cash back" deal (you get a certain % after each 12 payments ontime, something like that) whereas with other ones its not until 33 ontime payments...it just seemed the best once I figured all the numbers and such. The other one that I was deciding between was Total Higher Education (T.H.E) which a current med student on sdn was recommending to people. BUt that ones not on NYCOM's list, and MedINvest looked to be a better option. Just my opinion, hope it helps. :luck:

I chose MedPreffered. My brother worked out a spread sheet with all the different lenders, and it seems like MedPreffered will allow you to pay off the loans in the shortest ammount of time (107 months) and gives you 10% credit after 48 months. It just seemed like the best deal to me.

mblum151

03-15-2005, 08:57 AM

Does anyone know the schedule of classes and exams? I have no idea what our time in class is looking like. Also, do most students live by Old Westbury? Would it be too much to commute from Manhattan?

Thanks!

misyel

03-15-2005, 06:52 PM

Also Id like to point out that memorizing minutia in the basic science courses is the very nature of med school, and is not a unique characteristic of Dr. Stepp or NYCOM. Like I said though I respect your opinion, I didn’t like Dr. Yu. However it is by no means a reason to not pick nycom as a school to attend ( a factor maybe but it shouldn’t be your only reason). Best of luck to you, it really does get better I promise. The first 2 years are the most stressful years of medical school, we are under a lot of pressure to perform, you just have to grin and bear it. To you incoming first years, get ready for the ride of your life...:D

hahahaha I just remembered something about Dr. Yu... I came up to him during class about the stupid T wave and why it's positive... I read his handouts before hand and I tried looking it up myself... he gave me this "are you stupid" look and told me to go home and read, and then ask him again. What the heck! LoL

seacatch

03-15-2005, 07:04 PM

Doc2B-Finally

03-15-2005, 08:06 PM

Hi. It took me forever to decide, but to me it looks like MedInvest is the best one. Someone else had said MedLoans looked good, but they have guaranter fees and origination fees. The medinvest doesn't and they have a better "cash back" deal (you get a certain % after each 12 payments ontime, something like that) whereas with other ones its not until 33 ontime payments...it just seemed the best once I figured all the numbers and such. The other one that I was deciding between was Total Higher Education (T.H.E) which a current med student on sdn was recommending to people. BUt that ones not on NYCOM's list, and MedINvest looked to be a better option. Just my opinion, hope it helps. :luck:
Irishlaydi, it is my understanding that it doesn't matter which lender you go with. Even though T.H.E. is a not on NYCOM's list of preferred lender, we can still choose T.H.E. Some one please correct me if I am wrong. Based on my calculations, pay-off amount is the lowest with T.H.E. stafford loans. As a result, I intend to stick with them.

ornis4

03-15-2005, 09:14 PM

Hey Ornis. Have you decided on NYCOM? I think you interviewed in my group. Dec 7th w/ Pavia? I'll be attending for sure and am researching the loans now too.

Hey there! Yeah I interviewed on Dec. 7th, seems like years ago now...although I still have the vivid memory of steady rain and me forgetting my umbrella...

NYCOM is not a definite for me yet...although I'm leaning that way. I'm holding seats at NYCOM and PCOM, waitlisted at UMDNJ-SOM, and I have an interview at UConn this friday, and that's been my first choice from day one. So any number of things can still happen. Of the DO schools, I think NYCOM has the edge for me based on clinical years and their match. I'm not in love with the Westbury campus/area, and I'm not entirely sure I wouldn't like my first two years at PCOM or UMDNJ-SOM better than NYCOM...but when it comes down to it, I love the NYC area, and the rotation sites can't be beat. If I don't get into UConn, then I'll probably be at NYCOM! And that's fine by me, I think it will be a great experience.

As for T.H.E. Loans...if we're allowed to choose them, then I encourage everyone to do so. I have been in grad school the past two years at NYMC, and they only go through T.H.E., and I really think it's the best, hands-down. Once I get confirmation that we can go through them, I'll definitely choose them.

seacatch

03-16-2005, 05:38 AM

I'm leaning toward T.H.E. also. It seems the best option given uncertainty of future rates and the ability to consolidate. I still need to confirm NYCOM will not have a problem with it.

I remember interview day too. Not a very smooth one... lunch... rain... guides. I was the last one interviewed (and I was the oldest of us...). NYCOMs 3rd and 4th year options are great and the match is a big plus. I really like the flexibility to watch lectures over the internet. Good luck with U Conn. Otherwise perhaps I'll see you in August at NYCOM.

DrBean09

03-16-2005, 05:36 PM

hi guys i was accepted into nycom last month but i'm still not 100% sure... (reserved but not confirmed) but if i decide to go there it would be nice to meet u all everyone sounds really supportive. :)

Doc2B-Finally

03-16-2005, 05:45 PM

I called NYCOM Finaid and confirmed that borrowing from the non-listed lenders is not a problem. That clears up a way for us to consider T.H.E. or other lenders.

seacatch

03-16-2005, 06:31 PM

I called NYCOM Finaid and confirmed that borrowing from the non-listed lenders is not a problem. That clears up a way for us to consider T.H.E. or other lenders.

Thanks for clearing it up. It saves me a call tomorrow and I'm probably going for T.H.E. too.

FutureFemmeDoc

03-17-2005, 11:51 AM

Irishlaydi, it is my understanding that it doesn't matter which lender you go with. Even though T.H.E. is a not on NYCOM's list of preferred lender, we can still choose T.H.E. Some one please correct me if I am wrong. Based on my calculations, pay-off amount is the lowest with T.H.E. stafford loans. As a result, I intend to stick with them.

Hi! I wish I had known about T.H.E. sooner! I just submitted my forms last week and finally went with MedInvest. It took me a long time and some research to decide... Hope it works out!

Anybody else thinking about housing??? Is it true that at some point NYCOM will send us a website with housing options?? Thanks! :)

Peon9985

03-17-2005, 05:30 PM

BATiger

03-19-2005, 07:29 AM

Just got my second letter asking for the second deposit heheheh its due april 1st.. Anyhow weird question.. I had filled out those financial aid forms about a month ago and now NYCOM has sent them to me again... I'm wondering if any one here received the same forms twice?

I just got the same information in the mail, and yes I received the forms twice also. Does anyone know if there is any flexibility with the second deposit? Is there anyway to get even a 2 week extension on it?

djquick83

03-19-2005, 06:15 PM

For a two week extension, they will probably bump u off and get someone on the wait list who has the cash. :eek: J/K ;)

Peon9985

03-19-2005, 06:18 PM

Hmm maybe I should try and get an extension.... lol.. Man dealing with this financial aid crap is giving me a headache.. esp when you call that lady there... she just you such attitude.

BATiger

03-19-2005, 09:07 PM

NYCOM asks for a lot of money up front and I am waiting to hear from another school whose admissions committee meets 3/31. All decisions have to be approved by the dean before they are finalized, so there is no way I will hear by 4/1. $1000 is a lot of money to throw away when you only make $12/hr! :)

Peon9985

03-20-2005, 03:40 PM

Does anyone know if NYCOM will give us PDA's when we start attending? Cause I hear they did. Just wanting to make sure so that I don't go and get one myself.

FutureFemmeDoc

03-20-2005, 03:48 PM

Does anyone know if NYCOM will give us PDA's when we start attending? Cause I hear they did. Just wanting to make sure so that I don't go and get one myself.

On my interview day, I think the students told us that they are given a PDA after second year but I may be mistaken..

anars28

03-21-2005, 07:09 AM

Has anyone spoken to the director of admissions at NYCOM? I haven't received an interview and was thinking about going up there to talk to admissions. I just want to make sure I won't be wasting my time if they aren't responsive.

Thanks!

beastmaster

03-22-2005, 10:16 PM

There is a good chance that I will attend NYCOM this August. If anyone wants to IM me to discuss anything, feel free.

endAIDScom

03-28-2005, 06:32 PM

I'm going to your school. Let's collaborate.

endAIDScom

03-28-2005, 06:38 PM

Is it possible to rent a house within 20 minutes drive of campus?
Do people ever rent places and share them with other students at NYCOM?
Or are these just rumors?

djquick83

03-30-2005, 01:43 PM

Rent an apartment maybe. Rent a house ? Good luck finding other friends to help u pay the mortgage off not including yearly taxes in Nassau County. :eek: Im sure there are 2 family houses that rent out each individual family dwelling. Thats something to look into and Im sure its possible given they havent been already taken by any other NYCOM students or outside ppl.

Dr. Kasper

04-03-2005, 08:26 PM

HEY ALL -

I am 90% sure I will be attending NYCOM CLASS OF 2009 ;)

I also recieved the financial aid package and was quite confused. I called the financial aid office and I thought that lady was abrupt and rude as well.

Anyway I am a bit confused with the financial aid still. I filled out my fafsa and I am in the process of filling out all the forms that need to be sent to back to the school. Choosing a Lender has been crazy!! I think Medinvest seems the best so far.

Does anyone know how much they are borrowing though? In the prelim application (white paper question 8) can someone clarify for me how much are we allowed to borrow? I think its 38,500 Stafford Loans and then what if i need more? Im soo confused!! please help thanks

BATiger

04-05-2005, 08:34 AM

stoleyerscrubz

04-05-2005, 09:12 AM

Isn't the tuition at NYCOM over $30,000?

The maximum you can borrow for the Stafford loan is $40,722, so put that in question 8. If you need more, you need to get a private loan. The financial aid lady told me borrowing $40,722 generally leaves you with $19,000 to live on.

djquick83

04-05-2005, 10:38 AM

Isn't the tuition at NYCOM over $30,000?

Yea. Its almost $35K the first year. School is a ripoff if u ask me. NO SCHOOL IN THE WORLD IS WORTH $35K a year. Education should be a priveledge to those who want it and are able to handle it. I could understand tuition as being something to help pay for services provided, but $35K for 250 students each class is more than enough to provide for the resources we have there or anywhere else in the world. At those rates, they should give us a place to live, food, a car, an expense account, and free healthcare along with their education.

BATiger

04-05-2005, 10:51 AM

Sorry for the confusion, what I meant was they generally recommend having approx. $19,000 a year to live on for books, food and rent. You are correct, borrowing the max. Stafford loan only leaves you with $5000, so unless you are living at home I guess we all will be getting private loans in addition to Stafford. Boo.

stoleyerscrubz

04-05-2005, 12:31 PM

I am applying there this year so I got a little excited reading that. Oh well. Good luck to you all!

Sorry for the confusion, what I meant was they generally recommend having approx. $19,000 a year to live on for books, food and rent. You are correct, borrowing the max. Stafford loan only leaves you with $5000, so unless you are living at home I guess we all will be getting private loans in addition to Stafford. Boo.

Dr. Kasper

04-05-2005, 08:16 PM

Thank you all for helping me, I will be now just figuring out what lender to choose. What are you guys leaning towards?

Also did you sign the authroization statement granting or denying NYCOM use of any excess funds?? Could someone clarify this as well? I think I am suppose to sign it granting them usage.

thanks

Juniperbee

04-08-2005, 06:21 PM

I just found out that I was accepted to NYCOM. Can't wait to see everyone in the fall.

endAIDScom

04-18-2005, 12:57 PM

seacatch

04-18-2005, 03:32 PM

Hey has anyone gotten the application for the doctor patient continum yet?
If so have you filled it out?

I haven't and I'm starting to get afraid that it was a trick to make me and others pick NYCOM over (otherwise) better schools.

I spoke with the director of admissions earlier today. I didn't get the packet either. She said she would send it right out (again?). Anyway, she said we wouldn't know if we get the PBL track until the first week of school (orientation).

tedd1212

04-18-2005, 07:02 PM

I spoke with the director of admissions earlier today. I didn't get the packet either. She said she would send it right out (again?). Anyway, she said we wouldn't know if we get the PBL track until the first week of school (orientation).

I'm an idiot. what is this dr patient "continum?" i am class of 09. is this something that i should be looking for in the mail? i moved and nycom has been having a bit of a time keeping up with my address. also, have they released anything concerning curriculum modifications for 05-06?
t

Doc2B-Finally

04-18-2005, 07:39 PM

Kry

04-19-2005, 12:01 AM

Any idea what Quality Progress Indicator Exam is? I was reading NYCOM calener for 2008 class and came across it "ACADEMIC CALENDAR 2004-2005
Class of 2008 (1st year)
Orientation .................................................. .............................Tuesday, August 24 – Friday, August 27, 2004
.................................................. ....(August 26 – Quality Progress Indicator exam; August 27 – Barbeque)"

May be current NYCOM students can provide some information about it.

I'll paste a direct quote from an email I have regarding the QPI.

This exam is a collaborative venture between NYCOM and several other medical colleges (osteopathic and allopathic) in which all four undergraduate medical classes, interns and residents take a comprehensive exam for the purpose of feedback and self-assessment. It is an important component in NYCOM’s on-going effort to comprehensively assess, assure and enhance the quality of our educational continuum (undergraduate and postgraduate medical education curriculum).

Our objectives for the exam are twofold: 1) provide program evaluation through overall group performance (outcome focused), and 2) provide students, interns, and residents with individual feedback on their systematic knowledge acquisition and progression. As you probably know, the exam does not require study, there is no charge for the exam, you cannot pass or fail, and you will be able to assess your individual progress in learning.

The exam will allow you to compare your performance vis-à-vis your entire class as well as class levels above and below you (other students, interns/residents in our educational continuum). It is intended solely as a means of feedback, without any bearing on graduation or any other official recommendations. You can use the exam to determine the extent of future preparation you may require to enhance your performance on COMLEX exams.

The exam is comprised of 330 items, encompassing all basic and clinical science disciplines. Upon completion of the administration of the exam, arrangements will be made to return your exam booklet to you to facilitate your review of content.

If you have any other questions pertaining to first year don't hesitate in contacting me. Otherwise, I'll see you all during orientation.

Kry
MSS Treasurer
Class of 2008

endAIDScom

04-19-2005, 09:35 AM

I'm an idiot. what is this dr patient "continum?" i am class of 09. is this something that i should be looking for in the mail? i moved and nycom has been having a bit of a time keeping up with my address. also, have they released anything concerning curriculum modifications for 05-06?
t

DPC is NYCOM's problem based track. 2005 will be the first year it's offered.
They seem to have just decided to go foward with it the week I interviewed there (March 1st), so they may not have told you about it. We were told at our admissions presentation that it would be limited to 40 students
(2 groups of 20) and that there was a seperate application that we would be sent after signing our matriculation agreements.

tedd1212

04-19-2005, 12:20 PM

DPC is NYCOM's problem based track. 2005 will be the first year it's offered.
They seem to have just decided to go foward with it the week I interviewed there (March 1st), so they may not have told you about it. We were told at our admissions presentation that it would be limited to 40 students
(2 groups of 20) and that there was a seperate application that we would be sent after signing our matriculation agreements.

Thanks for the info. i contacted admissions this morning and the lady was like, "you didn't receive it???? I'll get another one in the mail to you right away." when i asked for some details she simply said that it was quite complex and that the info packet would explain everything...interesting.

Doc2B-Finally

04-19-2005, 07:06 PM

Just curious.
Did any one hear from NHSC about scholarship interview?
BTW, I called NYCOM about PDC and was told that the package will be mailed shortly and will include a seperate application to sign up for the same. Lots of details are still in works, so the admissions office is also not aware of all the details.

djquick83

04-20-2005, 07:39 AM

Cool, im waiting for soem more info as well.

misyel

04-20-2005, 01:39 PM

hey guys,

I know I'm completely out of topic, but I just wanted to invite all of you future NYCOMers to come and join the NYCOM team as we participate in AIDS Walk NY 2005. The event will be held in Central Park on May 15th. Considering we're the biggest medical school, I think it's important that we have a big turnout. Come support your new school, and meet some future colleagues!

For more information about the walk, please go to:

http://www.aidswalk.net/newyork

If you're around the New York City area at this time, consider walking with us by joining Team New York College of Osteopathic Medicine (9446) or clicking on this link:

https://www.kintera.org/faf/reg_new/register.asp?ievent=92100&lis=1&kntae92100=C1947B46EF6A48549B3152165BCC0BBC&jt=900362&teamsName=New+York+College+of+Osteopathic+Medicine +%2D+9446

If not, you can also show us your support by contributing to the team. Just click on this link:

https://www.kintera.org/faf/search/searchTeamPart.asp?ievent=92100&lis=1&kntae92100=EB2A3743D6E24C44A4B23B2DF7C31103&supId=0&team=900362&cj=Y

Thanks a lot everyone, and feel free to PM me if you have any questions.

Michele Malit
NYCOM Team Leader
SOMA President '05-'06

chimebo

04-20-2005, 02:11 PM

Hey guys, I though I would try to answer some of the questions I have seen about NYCOM.... You should get access to the NYCOM webboard sometime soonish, if you have not already. there is a specific posting for housing...where you can find an apartment, roommate, post a place, etc. That is how I found my housing last year. Also, there is always craigslist.com, which is also useful. I would say most people I know live in Glen Cove and the surrounding towns, but others do commute from the city. Just be aware that the LIE can be a nightmare, so the further away you live, the earlier you have to get up in the morning to drive to school. You can definitely rent a whole house, but you will porbably need a few people to do it with you. The QPI is this whole day exam, that tests all of your medical knowledge...when you first take it, you are only supposed to get around 30% and you take it again at the end of the year and every year after, into residency, I believe. You are supposed to increase your percentage. Anyways, the test is not for a grade or anything, it is just a means for the school to see statistically how the class is doing, what it is stronger, weaker in, etc. Some people take it very seriously and some don't and finish each of the two sections in twenty minutes. Also, I have heard that the Class of 2009 will be taught using the PBL model, which is really exciting. If you all have any other questions...feel free to PM me. :)

misyel

04-20-2005, 02:22 PM

endAIDScom

04-20-2005, 03:40 PM

Seriously, where does our 35k a year go ? Everytime u call the school for some info about something, they give u a blank stare like ure from Mars or something. The school is def. not up to date on handling any type of important info for the students.

During my interview at TUCOM CA members of the interview panel had an open argument about whether the nursing and pharmacy schools were starting in the fall. You would think they would know since they would be teaching classes to both, but they didn't.

And my tour quide didn't know if there was a student center or not.

So we're actually pretty lucky to go to NYCOM. :D

SuperFemDoc22

04-21-2005, 03:59 PM

misyel

04-21-2005, 07:52 PM

I think I'm going to pass on that DPC program thing. I'm not a big fan of being a guinea pig for some new program. New programs are always buggy during the inception and I don't want to deal with all the annoying kinks. Especially since they decided to do it as a last minute thing (maybe to encourage undecided people to choose NYCOM). And quite frankly, I don't fully understand the whole concept so I think I'm just going to go with the regular lecture based cirriculum. Just my 2 cents.

The program at NYCOM has actually been 2 years in the making. Just so you know, Dr. Portanova is in charge of the PBL program, and he's managed other PBL programs in other schools such as OUCOM (and another MD school I believe?). The concept of PBL is new at NYCOM, but he's been managing PBL for at least 10 years. It's not like they just thought of this in 6 months just to attract more people to go to NYCOM. If it's attendance they're after, there's always someone who's willing to take up any open medical school spots.

If you feel that you don't want to choose the program because you "don't fully understand the whole concept" of it, you should research it a little bit more, or better yet, email Dr. Portanova at portanov@nyit.edu and have him clarify some of your questions, instead of making immediate decisions. You'll never know, it might be the right program for you.

eag

04-22-2005, 06:38 AM

I was wondering where I could get a list of the clinical affiliates that NYCOM is associated with. Thanks

Doc2B-Finally

04-23-2005, 11:37 AM

I was wondering where I could get a list of the clinical affiliates that NYCOM is associated with. Thanks

You can find NYCOM clinical affiliate sites here.
http://iris.nyit.edu/~nycomec/
Hope this helps.
Good luck.

Juniperbee

04-24-2005, 10:23 AM

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to know how long after mailing the initial deposit did everyone receive additional information from NYCOM and a financial aid packet. Thanks

Doc2B-Finally

04-24-2005, 10:45 AM

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to know how long after mailing the initial deposit did everyone receive additional information from NYCOM and a financial aid packet. Thanks

Hi,
I think sometime in February I started receiving Fin-aid documents from NYCOM. (2 months after my acceptance letter.)

tedd1212

04-26-2005, 03:44 AM

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to know how long after mailing the initial deposit did everyone receive additional information from NYCOM and a financial aid packet. Thanks

i got accepted in Dec and started getting packets in march. i think the delay was because they were updating some of the papers. now i would expect that fin aid ect should go out pretty quickly. i never got the DPC letter till i called the other day so if you feel like it has been a while i would give them a call just to make sure you aren't missing anything.

class of '09, represent

drjazz

04-30-2005, 02:13 PM

Hey guys,
I made the final decision to attend NYCOM yesterday and I am very excited! Hope to meet some of you soon! What are you guys doing for housing? Are you searching on your own or waiting for the school webboard stuff?
Thanks!

Cthulu

05-03-2005, 09:00 AM

I wonder when they'll give us book lists. I heard some of those texts can be hard to get ahold of so the more time to get them the better.

misyel

05-03-2005, 03:37 PM

Don't buy the books yet. The Student Osteopathic Medical Association (SOMA) will partner you up with a big brother/big sister during orientation week. You can ask your big bro/sis all about which books you'll actually need and which ones you can get by without. That way you won't be stuck buying all these books and then worry about how you're gonna sell them off later on.

Michele
SOMA President '05-'06

DotheDo

05-03-2005, 06:09 PM

Hi all,
If your looking for housing, shoot me a PM because I have two great housing opportunities for this fall.

Cthulu

05-04-2005, 03:35 PM

Thanks Misyel. Right now I'm fighting through finals and finding myself a roof for next year.

endAIDScom

05-08-2005, 12:24 PM

Upperclassment (you know who you are) - who do you use for cell service?

The major carriers all claim to have great coverage all around nycom, but a lot of the service maps on their websites make it look like roaming central.

Who has the best coverage up there?

Any horror stories?

I need to get a phone this week that I can use both in philadelphia, and in the glen cove/oysterbay area once I move.
Looking mostly at Sprint and Cingular, but I'm open.

Thanks!

Ifellinapothole

05-09-2005, 01:21 PM

can you commute to NYCOM from Manhattan or Queens (Forest Hills or Kew Gardens)?

Anyone know?

tedd1212

05-09-2005, 04:02 PM

can you commute to NYCOM from Manhattan or Queens (Forest Hills or Kew Gardens)?

I did the drive on northern blvd (25A) the other day from flushing to NYCOM. it took about 30minutes on a sunday afternoon so i am sure that you would be looking at at least 30min from kew gardens to campus during the week. also note that i am class of 09 and i live in bklyn so i don't really know what i am talking about. i am however planning on getting a place in that area so lets hope that it can be done without too much road rage. driving makes me angry :meanie:

the train from the city is gonna take 40min at least plus the cab/bus (hicksville) to get to campus. i've heard of people doing it but eeewwww is all i can say to that. then again, if you are from LI then you are probably use to the drive so it isn't thought of as a big deal. i just wish i could ride my bike there...
- senor scatterbrain

misyel

05-09-2005, 10:39 PM

tedd1212

05-10-2005, 06:18 AM

i live in nyc/bklyn and have had ATT for about 5 years. their digital service use to be great but now it stinks. there have been several occasions where i haven't gotten text msgs. they merged with cingular and are switching over to GSM. my boss is having as many problems with GSM as i am having with digital. in sept my contract is up and i think i'm gonna go verison.

cup n string is really the only guaranteed service

skiiboy

05-10-2005, 07:14 AM

I have lived about 10 minutes from NYCOM my entire life. I have Verizon and have never even considered switching companies. In my experience Verizon, hands down offers the best service. :thumbup: :thumbup:

djquick83

05-10-2005, 07:33 PM

can you commute to NYCOM from Manhattan or Queens (Forest Hills or Kew Gardens)?

Anyone know?

Yea. Its called driving a car on the LIE. Mass transit will suck, even if u take LIRR cause it wont drop u right off by the school.

endAIDScom

05-15-2005, 01:22 PM

Can anybody suggest a good place for breakfast in Glen Cove?
I'm driving up from Philly to look at housing next weekend and I'm going to be hungry when I get there :p .

DPickholtz

05-15-2005, 07:59 PM

I'm in too. Anyone have info on the housing situation in the Old Westbury area? I would prefer to not have to commute from bklyn. What neighboring towns are reasonably priced and convenient for someone looking for a 1bdroom for <$1000?

I commuted from brooklyn, it wasn't too bad.....

congrats on getting in I'll see you guys soon

Ifellinapothole

05-16-2005, 07:36 AM

I commuted from brooklyn, it wasn't too bad.....

congrats on getting in I'll see you guys soon

How far is the commute from Park Slope area or other area in Brooklyn?

Anyone know?

Also, what did you usually commute from B'klyn: take BQE to Northern State or LIE or something else?

Thanks for your help.

BATiger

05-16-2005, 07:59 AM

How far is the commute from Park Slope area or other area in Brooklyn?

Anyone know?

Also, what did you usually commute from B'klyn: take BQE to Northern State or LIE or something else?

Thanks for your help.

Hey Ifellinapothole,
I also live in park slope and everyone is telling me to not even attempt the commute. Mapquest says it will take 40 min to drive there, but with traffic it will be at least an hour, probably 1 1/2 hours . And forget about the unreliable LIRR, then connecting to a bus, no way. I think I am going to have to look for a place in long island, even though I love the slope :)

tedd1212

05-16-2005, 03:38 PM

Hey Ifellinapothole,
I also live in park slope and everyone is telling me to not even attempt the commute. Mapquest says it will take 40 min to drive there, but with traffic it will be at least an hour, probably 1 1/2 hours . And forget about the unreliable LIRR, then connecting to a bus, no way. I think I am going to have to look for a place in long island, even though I love the slope :)

i currently live in FT Greene, bklyn, right next to the BQE and as i look out my window right now at 5:30 on a monday afternoon i can tell you that traffic is backed up as far as my eyes can see. if you are use to that kind of thing then go for it. traffic makes me nuts :scared: and LI traffic is expecially bad. i'm planning on moving to somewhere in queens with the hope of finding a place tween school and the city.

take note that i am entering this fall and haven't done the drive on the reg.

misyel

05-18-2005, 09:30 PM

I commuted from brooklyn, it wasn't too bad.....

congrats on getting in I'll see you guys soon

Hey I know you.... you're lurking in the 2009 thread too, huh? =)

Ifellinapothole

05-20-2005, 12:14 PM

I commuted from brooklyn, it wasn't too bad.....

How bad is not too bad?

Can you give me some time estimates from Park Slope?

I appreciate it.. If not, I 'll have to move to Queens near Northern State.

Thanks

BATiger

05-22-2005, 08:03 AM

Has anyone received a username and password from the school yet? I would really like to have access to the website, especially for housing information...

drjazz

05-22-2005, 08:05 AM

Hey,
I stopped in at the school last week and asked about this same issue. They said all information will be posted on the website as of June 1st :thumbup:

AmieDO

05-24-2005, 08:59 AM

I have also been accepted to NYCOM and recently accepted my acceptance. I am really excited to go. I am currently searching for housing and wondered if anyone had any information or advice. I have also considered having roomates to save money if anyone was also interested and looking. Look forward to hearing from you.
Thanks, Amie :)

egurass

05-24-2005, 07:14 PM

hi there,

i'm in for this coming semeter, too - coming from Boston!!
i'm totally new to the area, and looking for roomates!!
is anyone looking for a roomate???

GqDocStar

05-25-2005, 12:22 AM

can you guys let me know how long it took between your interview and your acceptance and if you sent in letters of intent ect inbetween. i interviewed 4/21 and have yet to hear anything from nycom.

SuperFemDoc22

05-25-2005, 09:14 AM

I need a roomate too. Apartments near the school can range pricewise from $425 to $900+ per person. I'm planning on looking at a few places in a few weeks but there aren't too many places open. I believe there should be a lot of available apartments in July since thats when most people move out. It is definately a better idea to have at least one roomate to split the bills. If you are female, clean and responsible send me a private message if you need a roomate.

intelichi

05-25-2005, 11:26 AM

did everyone have to participate in the med-prep program for one month? june 1st to july 1st?

misyel

05-25-2005, 07:28 PM

I know of a housing opportunity, 2 minutes from school, 2 blocks from Pathmark, Starbucks, Kinkos, a bar (everything esential to medical school life!). Rent is $650 (not including utilities) for a room in a 2BR apartment with kitchen, bath and living room. The available room has wall-to-wall carpeting plus a ceiling fan. Plenty of on-the-street parking. No pets, and no smoking. 1 year lease starts July 1st. If interested, PM me so I can give you the contact information. Thanks!

endAIDScom

05-26-2005, 02:56 PM

did everyone have to participate in the med-prep program for one month? june 1st to july 1st?

:sleep: I didn't even hear about it. What is it?

intelichi

05-26-2005, 03:50 PM

BATiger

05-27-2005, 07:28 PM

the medprep is a month long program with classes on biochem, anatomy, phyisiology, omm intro., community med, e.t.c the classes run from 9-4 everyday (like summer school) u get to meet faculty and get a fill of the school. i guess it is only available to certain students. i got something in the mail asking me if i want to attend. it starts on wed. june 1 and then oreintation starts at the end of aug.

I was told by a nycom student who participated in medprep last year that it is a program for people who had some bad grades or a low mcat. They allow some students to take it, and if they do well, they may be accepted into the class in the fall if there is space available. That wouldn't make sense it your case, intelichi, since you were already accepted... I am confused! The student I talked to said she bombed the mcat, but the rest of her application was strong, so they offered her the medprep plan.

GqDocStar

05-28-2005, 01:12 PM

misyel

05-28-2005, 03:31 PM

that makes sense...if you had low grades in your undergrad i could see how exposure to med school environment would get you transitioned to how it will be in the comming year. ive heard of programs that are simmilar in a lot of other medical programs, DO and MD. i would like to do a medprep thing regardless of my grades because i think that its good exposure even if you did ok in undergrad...i think it would be fun ..its not too long since its only a month..i think people would make good connections and still have july and august to enjoy summer.

NOTHING can prepare you for medical school except for accepting the fact that life will never be the same after you start school. You can expose yourself to the medical school environment all you want, but you know, it's going to make a difference because it's NOT the medical school environment. The connections you make aren't that important, because you'll have plenty of opportunities to get to know the professors in the future. Unless you were required to take the course, I suggest spending as much of your free time out on the beach, vacationing, anywhere away from lecture halls because you'll have more than enough of your share of it next year.

I think the key to doing well in medical school is working hard FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. Don't fall behind, because it's going to be sooo difficult to catch up. Once you start failing block exams, it'll just start snowballing from there. Also, if you studying hard on weekdays, you'll be able to afford having weekends off to do what you want to do.

DPickholtz

05-29-2005, 11:02 AM

Does anyone have access to the message board? Isn't that the place where there are housing options? Any info would be great...Thanks.

if you are talking abou the NYCOM web board, you guys wont be able to access it untill you get the school email addresses...

yeah it sucks but there are working on something for you guys to let you know about housing/carpools/other stuff...

congrats to you guys for getting in.

DPickholtz

05-29-2005, 11:07 AM

How far is the commute from Park Slope area or other area in Brooklyn?

Anyone know?

Also, what did you usually commute from B'klyn: take BQE to Northern State or LIE or something else?

Thanks for your help.

I live in midwood so I had my choice of ways to get to school....
from park slope best bet is the Jackie (Jackie robinson pkwy) to GCP (grand central parkway which becomes the northern state....

I know some people took the BQE to the LIE but that made little sense from where I live, from park slope it may not be that bad an idea consitering that the jackie can get horribly backed up.

if you want more info feel free to email me

misyel

05-29-2005, 02:39 PM

if you are talking abou the NYCOM web board, you guys wont be able to access it untill you get the school email addresses...

yeah it sucks but there are working on something for you guys to let you know about housing/carpools/other stuff...

congrats to you guys for getting in.

I had access to it as early as February! LoL Just email Linda at ldarroch@nyit.edu and she should be able to set it up for you. You don't need the nyit emai address to log on. The academic websites, though, are a different story.

Michele

GqDocStar

05-29-2005, 09:25 PM

DPickholtz

05-31-2005, 07:50 PM

does anyone know how many students were accepted to the class of 2008 last year...reading minutes from quarterly reports it says 300+ so i wanted to hear from some 2008ers about how many they have in their class. maybe it will alleviate the nervousness i have about getting accepted this late in the cycle

we had ~316 at the start of the year...don't know how many we lost (althought it may be ~10%), some of them are returning in your class (we won't name names), some arent. Its all good, other than the fact that I still walk into exams and look around and think who are these people.....

...then I realize I'm not in the right room.... :laugh:

DPickholtz

05-31-2005, 07:54 PM

I had access to it as early as February! LoL Just email Linda at ldarroch@nyit.edu and she should be able to set it up for you. You don't need the nyit emai address to log on. The academic websites, though, are a different story.

Michele

well michelle (trouble maker :p ),
I was just saying what I hear from linda about the policy in general, they want to shy away from non NYIT addresses linked to the web board account...

hey if youguys can get on there all the power to ya, theres some good housing info up....

DPickholtz

05-31-2005, 08:27 PM

Hey I know you.... you're lurking in the 2009 thread too, huh? =)

we have one of our own?

misyel

06-01-2005, 12:39 PM

well michelle (trouble maker :p ),
I was just saying what I hear from linda about the policy in general, they want to shy away from non NYIT addresses linked to the web board account...

hey if youguys can get on there all the power to ya, theres some good housing info up....

Yeah, I am a trouble maker... I saw that email and I'm like, WHOOPS, that's me!!!! LoL

Michele

Ifellinapothole

06-01-2005, 01:40 PM

How are the 3rd and 4th year rotation sites?

Good training?

DPickholtz

06-01-2005, 05:41 PM

Yeah, I am a trouble maker... I saw that email and I'm like, WHOOPS, that's me!!!! LoL

Michele

do you think these kids would like us to open a thread where we post the housing crap from the webboard here?

Kry

06-01-2005, 08:46 PM

do you think these kids would like us to open a thread where we post the housing crap from the webboard here?

Yeah I think we should since they won't have access to the webboard for a while according to Linda, "... they will not be getting access to the web board this year until after they start school in August and all orientation information will be posted on NYCOM web site this year."

Junebugs

06-01-2005, 09:50 PM

misyel

06-01-2005, 10:11 PM

Yeah I think we should since they won't have access to the webboard for a while according to Linda, "... they will not be getting access to the web board this year until after they start school in August and all orientation information will be posted on NYCOM web site this year."

I think it's a great idea! There's a lot of people on the webboard posting housing information, it would be such a waste if those who need housing won't be able to access it.

Hey Dov, you can do the honors! :p (Did you sign up as a SOMA Big Bro?)

jaz912

06-03-2005, 11:37 AM

I have been having sooo much trouble trying to find housing and I haven't had the time to come up to Long Island yet. So it would be great if you guys could give us some information about housing. If anyone is interested i'm looking for a female roommate or 2 to live with. I am 22. I'm a student at UMDNJ-in the School of Public Health, but will be starting NYCOM in the fall :) I'm south asian, but very atypical. I like for my place to be neat and would like roommates would would clean up after themselves and who don't smoke or have pets ( I have allergies :( , but little fish would be ok). I found a few places in Hicksville and Glen Cove. One of the places is a 3 bedroom (I think like $750 each). Send me a mes. if you like.
Take Care
Jaz

DPickholtz

06-06-2005, 06:58 PM

Hello fellow classmates! This posting may be slightly off topic, but I have a few questions about NYCOM and information they have/have not been sending to you.

How do you get access to the Web Board?

Has anyone received any financial information from NYCOM?

Does anyone know where they will be living come August?

Hopefully someone can answer my questions - thanks in advance.

-Jamie
NYCOM Class of 2009

see posts # 151-3 below
it sould have been in the big envelope - if not call up and speak with Clare Jacobi
lots of different places - see the other thread on NYCOM housing

-me

DPickholtz

06-06-2005, 07:06 PM

Okay boys and girls...here it is.....

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=204974

Dies Irae

06-08-2005, 02:17 PM

Has anyone here applied for the new PBL route?

tedd1212

06-08-2005, 09:24 PM

Has anyone here applied for the new PBL route?

I did. haven't heard anything yet.

also, i checked the NYCOM website and found a new page:
http://iris.nyit.edu/nycom/Orientation_2005.htm
it has some stuff about orientation and an email address to get housing info.

Thanks to DPickholtz for the housing info.

t

ps. i'm getting pretty excitedd. i know there was talk of getting together in the city sometime. did i miss it? is anyone interested in doing it?

Dies Irae

06-08-2005, 10:18 PM

ps. i'm getting pretty excitedd. i know there was talk of getting together in the city sometime. did i miss it? is anyone interested in doing it?

I saw that post too, but it died off a while back. It might have happened already--although I would be interested in meeting up if it is going to happen again. :)

Ifellinapothole

06-09-2005, 08:01 AM

Does anybody have a residency match list for NYCOM?

thanks

mblum151

06-09-2005, 08:13 AM

I saw that post too, but it died off a while back. It might have happened already--although I would be interested in meeting up if it is going to happen again. :)

We already had a meet up a few months ago. It'd be really fun to have another one this summer. Do you want to organize it?

Melissa

beastmaster

06-09-2005, 08:17 AM

We already had a meet up a few months ago. It'd be really fun to have another one this summer. Do you want to organize it?

Melissa

What did you guys do in the first meet-up? How many showed?

mblum151

06-09-2005, 08:26 AM

What did you guys do in the first meet-up? How many showed?

We met at a bar on the lower east side. I think 12 people showed up. It was really nice to meet our future classmates. If there's enough interest, we should plan something in the summer, so all the people who just graduated from College can attend.

Cthulu

06-09-2005, 09:16 AM

Yeah sounds like a great idea. I got snowed out of the last one.

Dies Irae

06-09-2005, 10:53 AM

We already had a meet up a few months ago. It'd be really fun to have another one this summer. Do you want to organize it?

Melissa

Sure, I would like to meet some of my fellow classmates, if there are others interested. Manhattan is perfect for me.

beastmaster

06-09-2005, 11:25 AM

We met at a bar on the lower east side. I think 12 people showed up. It was really nice to meet our future classmates. If there's enough interest, we should plan something in the summer, so all the people who just graduated from College can attend.
I work on the upper east side so I was just a train ride away. I remember posting on that thread but no one ever got back to me or anything, and I hadn't seen any further efforts to make it a go (in order to contact the supposed 'master organizer'). Need to make these things more coordinated, folks!!

Dies Irae

06-09-2005, 11:27 AM

Wait, who is the "master organizer?" :confused:

mblum151

06-09-2005, 11:28 AM

I work on the upper east side so I was just a train ride away. I remember posting on that thread but no one ever got back to me or anything, and I hadn't seen any further efforts to make it a go (in order to contact the supposed 'master organizer'). Need to make these things more coordinated, folks!!

Let's get together on Friday, July 8th at 8pm at Von. It's on 3 Bleeker Street between Bowrey and Lafayette. Take the 6 at Bleecker St; F, V at Broadway-Lafayette. If you want to come, send me an email, and I'll send out a mass email, mblum151@yahoo.com, when the date approaches.

Melissa

beastmaster

06-09-2005, 11:33 AM

Let's get together on Friday, July 8th at 8pm at Von. It's on 3 Bleeker Street between Bowrey and Lafayette. Take the 6 at Bleecker St; F, V at Broadway-Lafayette. If you want to come, send me an email, and I'll send out a mass email, mblum151@yahoo.com, when the date approaches.

Melissa

Now that's more like it. Straight to the point, with a date, time, directions, instructions, and contact. I knew there was a master organizer! I can't imagine 12 people just spit-balling potential locations and all-satisfying time arrangements.

Dies Irae

06-09-2005, 11:40 AM

jaz912

06-09-2005, 03:43 PM

Let's get together on Friday, July 8th at 8pm at Von. It's on 3 Bleeker Street between Bowrey and Lafayette. Take the 6 at Bleecker St; F, V at Broadway-Lafayette. If you want to come, send me an email, and I'll send out a mass email, mblum151@yahoo.com, when the date approaches.

Melissa

I would have loved to come meet up with you guys. i'm new to this whole sdn thing. but, unfortunately i will be in canada that weekend :(

GqDocStar

06-09-2005, 09:30 PM

good buddy of mine got a call from nycom yesterday in the early morning telling him he got in...he was a special case though whom they knew had to make serious decisions about living and family ect so they knew he needed to know asap of any decisions...he says they told him he wont get his letter for 2 weeks probably. the scary thing is that me and him interviewed on the same day so ...it freaks me out to know that they have looked at my application/file most likely and he got in. we went to same undergrad too...i hope they didnt look at us and decide to take him over me...we are both south asian decent same under grad...same interview day...lets hope they take two of a kind... :scared:

Dies Irae

06-09-2005, 10:11 PM

...it freaks me out to know that they have looked at my application/file most likely and he got in. we went to same undergrad too...i hope they didnt look at us and decide to take him over me...we are both south asian decent same under grad...same interview day...lets hope they take two of a kind... :scared:

What? You mean they're still filling racial quotas in their admitance decisions? :eek:

Have you heard from any other schools? At this point, I would take any acceptance offered to me.

I'm from USB too, just graduated this year, and I know two others from USB that recieved interviews from NYCOM. I applied early and my stats were very competative, so I guess I was lucky. I'm not sure how many seats they have left, but I wish the best of luck to all of you. If you all make it in, we can start a Stony Brook posse. :meanie:

GqDocStar

06-09-2005, 10:34 PM

uhh..by south asian i refer to indian decent...not south EAST asian/pacific islander....us brownies are definately not an underrepresented minority in medicine thats for sure...im pretty competetive but applied past deadlines..nycom requested my application still be sent to them..i interviewed 4/21...who knows...i still got hope.

djquick83

06-10-2005, 11:07 AM

Now that's more like it. Straight to the point, with a date, time, directions, instructions, and contact. I knew there was a master organizer! I can't imagine 12 people just spit-balling potential locations and all-satisfying time arrangements.

BTW, I was the one who posted it, not once but twice in both forums(osteo and pre-osteo). If u couldnt read the post and understand the directions, u shouldnt be attending any type of grad school. Just my .02 :rolleyes:

alekamax

06-11-2005, 09:38 AM

Has anyone heard from NYCOM about their financial aid reports? I just got my bill for the fall semester and not a word about whether or not I'll have any financial aid (ie. stafford).

djquick83

06-11-2005, 11:03 AM

Has anyone heard from NYCOM about their financial aid reports? I just got my bill for the fall semester and not a word about whether or not I'll have any financial aid (ie. stafford).

Same here. I like how it says, to pay the bull in full ($16,000), please charge my Visa, MC, Amex, and Discover. Yea, and my daddy is Bill Gates. :eek:

Dies Irae

06-11-2005, 11:42 AM

Same here. I like how it says, to pay the bull in full ($16,000), please charge my Visa, MC, Amex, and Discover. Yea, and my daddy is Bill Gates. :eek:

:scared: :scared: :scared:

How many people do they expect to be able to just fork over the full tuition?

Definately fill out your FAFSFA for the Stafford loans and the application for TAP if your eligible, while you wait for them to send you finanical aid info. I've been trying to called the FA office, but I keep getting a machine. (tried twice this week)

misyel

06-11-2005, 12:53 PM

:scared: :scared: :scared:

How many people do they expect to be able to just fork over the full tuition?

Definately fill out your FAFSFA for the Stafford loans and the application for TAP if your eligible, while you wait for them to send you finanical aid info. I've been trying to called the FA office, but I keep getting a machine. (tried twice this week)

Don't worry guys, just apply for FAFSA, and sign your promissory notes when prompted and you'll eventually hear from them. They usually deal with the first years last. Just don't mind the bill that keeps popping up. I think it's just because the registrar's office and the financial aid office don't communicate well with each other.

djquick83

06-11-2005, 04:14 PM

Don't worry guys, just apply for FAFSA, and sign your promissory notes when prompted and you'll eventually hear from them. They usually deal with the first years last. Just don't mind the bill that keeps popping up. I think it's just because the registrar's office and the financial aid office don't communicate well with each other.

I already submitted all the info for financial aid, like the loan from Citibank. I signed the promissary note as well. They said if there was a problem, they would notify me. They said I have done everything I was supposed to and I shouldnt worry. Then again, I am receiving a bill for 16,000 with no mention of loans or anything being applied. Seriously, who sends the letters out ? :confused: Seems like there is so much miscommunication between the school and the students.