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medstudent3563

02-28-2005, 02:20 PM

Dont listen to this looser. Im not sure what his problem is, anyone has questions about nycom feel free to pm me. It's a great school.

This guy has rose-colored glasses on. You guys want to know why he doesn't think there's anything wrong with NYCOM's Physiology course? Because he has an undergraduate degree in Physiology....he already knows it.

It doesn't bother him that Dr Stepp teaches a weird Biochemistry-Physiology hybrid that has waaaaaaaay too much biochemistry in it (there's definately some overlap between the two subjects, but Dr Stepp's version is of 'physiology' is just ridiculous; instead of calling the course 'Medical Physiology' they should call it Physio-Biochemistry or something. And there's a reason why NYCOM has a seperate Biochemistry course and a seperate Physiology course).

But if you've never taken a Physiology course before (as was the case with me as well as many of my fellow first-years) and are relying on NYCOM to teach you Medical Physiology then buddy, you are screwed! And prepare to teach yourself all the Physiology NYCOM failed to present you during the summer because all 2nd year is pathophysiology.

And if a student doesn't know standard medical Physiology (not Dr Stepp's weird biochemistry-heavy hybrid) then there's no way in hell they are going to do well in Pathophysiology. You need to know the 'normal' (learned in Physiology) before you can learn the 'abnormal' (Pathophysiology).

And the administration wonders why so many 2nd years struggle at NYCOM and so many NYCOMer's fail the boards their 1st time around. Being mistaught Physiology has A LOT to do with it.

Don't get me wrong, medical school is hard work. But I think the job of a medical school is to guide students, telling them what they need to know to become good doctors. Students are supposed to provide the hard work. But as far as Physiology goes at NYCOM, students are misled.

And that's made more unfortunate considering how incredibly important Physiology is in doing well in medicine (I really can't stress that enough).

So if you want to be mistaught Physiology by a Biochemistry PhD (Dr Stepp) then attend NYCOM. But my advice is if you were accepted into CCOM, PCOM, NOVA, UMDNJ-COM or any US allopathic school, go there. I think those schools are better than NYCOM.

NYCOM's a middling DO school (good 3rd and 4th year clinicals save it from being bottom of the barrel).

Don't say I didn't warn you.

ps- don't PM this clown if you have questions about NYCOM. Post them on this webboard so you can can both sides of the story. The rose-colored glasses version and the real version.

Dreamer

02-28-2005, 02:30 PM

This guy has rose-colored glasses on. You guys want to know why he doesn't think there's anything wrong with NYCOM's Physiology course? Because he majored in Physiology....he already knows it.

It doesn't bother him that Dr Stepp teaches a weird Biochemistry-Physiology hybrid with waaaaaaaay too much biochemistry in it (there's definately some overlap between the two subjects, but Dr Stepp's version is of 'physiology' is just ridiculous; instead of calling the course 'Medical Physiology' they should call it Physio-Biochemistry or something. And there's a reason why NYCOM has a seperate Biochemistry course and a seperate Physiology course).

But if you've never taken Physiology before (like I and many other first-years have) and are relying on NYCOM to teach you medical Physiology then buddy, you are screwed! And prepare to teach yourself all the Physiology NYCOM failed to present you during the summer because all 2nd year is pathophysiology.

And if a student doesn't know standard medical Physiology (not Dr Stepp's weird biochemistry-heavy hybrid) then there's no way in hell they are going to do well in Pathophysiology. You need to know the 'normal' (learned in Physiology) before you can learn the 'abnormal' (Pathophysiology).

And the administration wonders why so many 2nd years struggle at NYCOM and so many NYCOMer's fail the boards their 1st time around. Being mistaught Physiology has A LOT to do with it.

Don't get me wrong, medical school is hard work. But I think the job of a medical school is to guide students, telling them what they need to know to become good doctors. Students are supposed to provide the hard work. But as far as Physiology goes at NYCOM, students are misled.

And that's made more unfortunate considering how incredibly important Physiology is in doing well in medicine (I really can't stress that enough).

So if you want to be mistaught Physiology by a Biochemistry PhD then attend NYCOM. But my advice is if you were accepted into CCOM, PCOM, NOVA, UMDNJ-COM or any US allopathic school, go there. I think those schools are better than NYCOM.

NYCOM's a middling DO school (good 3rd and 4th year clinicals save it from being bottom of the barrel).

Don't say I didn't warn you.

ps- don't PM this clown if you have questions about NYCOM. Post them on this webboard so you can can both sides of the story. The rose-colored glasses version and the real version.

Listen, medstudent, don't you have anything better to do than bitch here? The fact of a matter is that Physiology and Biochem are closely related, whether you like it or not. Dr. Stepp might be boring to listen to BUT he teaches, I can vouch for that and I did not take Physio since 1989.
What I do not understand is why don't you spend your energy on learning rather than complaining.

medstudent3563

02-28-2005, 02:38 PM

Listen, medstudent, don't you have anything better to do than bitch here? The fact of a matter is that Physiology and Biochem are closely related, whether you like it or not. Dr. Stepp might be boring to listen to BUT he teaches, I can vouch for that and I did not take Physio since 1989.
What I do not understand is why don't you spend your energy on learning rather than complaining.

He teaches!?! What lectures have you been going to!? Ask anybody, he reads straight from his packets. And if he teaches anything its not the medical physiology we need for 2nd year or the boards. Just look at how many 2nd years struggle and how crappy NYCOMer's do on the boards (relative to other schools).

medstudent3563

02-28-2005, 02:59 PM

This guy has rose-colored glasses on. You guys want to know why he doesn't think there's anything wrong with NYCOM's Physiology course? Because he has an undergraduate degree in Physiology....he already knows it.

It doesn't bother him that Dr Stepp teaches a weird Biochemistry-Physiology hybrid with waaaaaaaay too much biochemistry in it (there's definately some overlap between the two subjects, but Dr Stepp's version is of 'physiology' is just ridiculous; instead of calling the course 'Medical Physiology' they should call it Physio-Biochemistry or something. And there's a reason why NYCOM has a seperate Biochemistry course and a seperate Physiology course).

But if you've never taken Physiology before (like I and many other first-years have) and are relying on NYCOM to teach you medical Physiology then buddy, you are screwed! And prepare to teach yourself all the Physiology NYCOM failed to present you during the summer because all 2nd year is pathophysiology.

And if a student doesn't know standard medical Physiology (not Dr Stepp's weird biochemistry-heavy hybrid) then there's no way in hell they are going to do well in Pathophysiology. You need to know the 'normal' (learned in Physiology) before you can learn the 'abnormal' (Pathophysiology).

And the administration wonders why so many 2nd years struggle at NYCOM and so many NYCOMer's fail the boards their 1st time around. Being mistaught Physiology has A LOT to do with it.

Don't get me wrong, medical school is hard work. But I think the job of a medical school is to guide students, telling them what they need to know to become good doctors. Students are supposed to provide the hard work. But as far as Physiology goes at NYCOM, students are misled.

And that's made more unfortunate considering how incredibly important Physiology is in doing well in medicine (I really can't stress that enough).

So if you want to be mistaught Physiology by a Biochemistry PhD (Dr Stepp) then attend NYCOM. But my advice is if you were accepted into CCOM, PCOM, NOVA, UMDNJ-COM or any US allopathic school, go there. I think those schools are better than NYCOM.

NYCOM's a middling DO school (good 3rd and 4th year clinicals save it from being bottom of the barrel).

Don't say I didn't warn you.

ps- don't PM this clown if you have questions about NYCOM. Post them on this webboard so you can can both sides of the story. The rose-colored glasses version and the real version.

ps, ps- 'Physiology' at NYCOM is not a small course either. Its massive, in fact its NYCOM's longest course. It lasts 7 months of your first year, 5 of the 6 blocks during your first year. The course requires a massive time commitment.

And that's a big reason why I'm so peeved. So much study time (100+ hours), a lot of which is spent in vain (ie- not relevant to 2nd year or the boards).

Cowboy DO

02-28-2005, 04:46 PM

medstudent3563

02-28-2005, 05:44 PM

I think its best if everyone ignores this guy, he’s obviously trolling. Thanks for ruining a perfectly benign class of 2009 thread.

If anyone is perturbed by this and wants to talk PM me. You know your going to get his opinion wether you ask for it or not but I’m not responding to it anymore, there’s no point.

Trolling? No, no. I actually attend NYCOM and all I say comes from personal experience and the experiences of my fellow classmates.

And who cares about benign?! I think they want the truth- good, bad and ugly. Take off your rose-colored glasses and try to look outside yourself. Personally, I find it hilarious how you spit all this sunshine out of your as* about NYCOM when you know the ugly facts....the scores of 2nd years struggling, a large percentage of people failing the boards on their 1st attempt. I don't need to tell you, you know the ugly facts.

No sugar coating from me. I'm just telling it as it is.

J1515

02-28-2005, 06:22 PM

when you know the ugly facts....the scores of 2nd years struggling, a large percentage of people failing the boards on their 1st attempt. I don't need to tell you, you know the ugly facts.

It's real easy to blame the professors, eh? Perhaps they should start being more selective with who they admit and start looking for students who don't need to be spoonfed and won't whine and complain about everything. Just a thought.

Cowboy DO

02-28-2005, 06:24 PM

I love how its "facts" now too.

medstudent3563

02-28-2005, 09:06 PM

It's real easy to blame the professors, eh? Perhaps they should start being more selective with who they admit and start looking for students who don't need to be spoonfed and won't whine and complain about everything. Just a thought.

Spoonfed? I don't need to be spoonfed. Notice I haven't criticized Dr Youmans or Dr Yu (the other NYCOM physiology professors) because they actually want you to learn real medical physiology. At least with their material, a student can pick up a good physiology textbook or BRS to help understand the material. In lectures, Dr Yu and Dr Youmans are boring as hell but they want you to learn concepts in medical physiology. And if I’m not mistaken, Dr Yu and Dr Youmans actually have PhD’s in Physiology. Hey, what a concept! Your professor actually having a degree in the subject he’s teaching.

But that BIOCHEMISTRY PhD, Dr Stepp, is a totally different ballgame. Its not about concepts, its about memorizing his hybrid Biochemistry-Physiology handouts verbatim. And believe it or not, with Dr Stepp's material, consulting a physiology textbook is to your detriment because its all about his crappy handouts. We're not learning the medical Physiology we need (for 2nd year and the boards) with Dr Stepp.

Unfortunately Dr Stepp teaches the bulk (60-70%) of the 7-month long physiology course at NYCOM.

Dreamer

02-28-2005, 09:29 PM

Spoonfed? I don't need to be spoonfed. Notice I haven't criticized Dr Youmans or Dr Yu (the other NYCOM physiology professors) because they actually want you to learn real medical physiology. At least with their material, a student can pick up a good physiology textbook or BRS to help understand the material. In lectures, Dr Yu and Dr Youmans are boring as hell but they want you to learn concepts in medical physiology. And if I’m not mistaken, Dr Yu and Dr Youmans actually have PhD’s in Physiology. Hey, what a concept! Your professor actually having a degree in the subject he’s teaching.

But that BIOCHEMISTRY PhD, Dr Stepp, is a totally different ballgame. Its not about concepts, its about memorizing his hybrid Biochemistry-Physiology handouts verbatim. And believe it or not, with Dr Stepp's material, consulting a physiology textbook is to your detriment because its all about his crappy handouts. We're not learning the medical Physiology we need (for 2nd year and the boards) with Dr Stepp.

Unfortunately Dr Stepp teaches the bulk (60-70%) of the 7-month long physiology course at NYCOM.

I think something has to be clarified. Last semester, before the syallabus was amended, I printed it out. The old one containes the information about the faculty that the new one does not. I have the old one in front of me and I quote: Larry Stepp "received doctoral degree in physiology with minor in microbiology from Vanderbilt University." Dr. Youmans on the other hand received his "doctoral degree in medical biphysics with a moinor from Indiana University" You are right about Dr. Yu.
Also, BRS is not a study book, it is REVIEW book. So, after we cleared the facts about the faculty, something that took three threads, two of which were closed due to medstudent abusive language, I think it is time to apologize for polluting the thread of Class of 2009, for current stident rants should not scare incoming class or diminish their desire to study medicine. Granted, NYCOM has its issues, some of them are significant, but show me the school that does not.

medstudent3563

02-28-2005, 10:53 PM

I think something has to be clarified. Last semester, before the syallabus was amended, I printed it out. The old one containes the information about the faculty that the new one does not. I have the old one in front of me and I quote: Larry Stepp "received doctoral degree in physiology with minor in microbiology from Vanderbilt University." Dr. Youmans on the other hand received his "doctoral degree in medical biphysics with a moinor from Indiana University" You are right about Dr. Yu.
Also, BRS is not a study book, it is REVIEW book. So, after we cleared the facts about the faculty, something that took three threads, two of which were closed due to medstudent abusive language, I think it is time to apologize for polluting the thread of Class of 2009, for current stident rants should not scare incoming class or diminish their desire to study medicine. Granted, NYCOM has its issues, some of them are significant, but show me the school that does not.

I haven't seen those credentials, do you have the pdf file? Maybe you can email it to me. Besides, I'm not trying to diminish anyone's desire to study medicine, I'm just advising prospective students to think twice before choosing NYCOM.

Was going to write a longer response but I need to go to bed. Going to wake up early to go through one of Dr Stepps crappy handouts.

medstudent3563

03-01-2005, 04:56 AM

I think something has to be clarified. Last semester, before the syallabus was amended, I printed it out. The old one containes the information about the faculty that the new one does not. I have the old one in front of me and I quote: Larry Stepp "received doctoral degree in physiology with minor in microbiology from Vanderbilt University." Dr. Youmans on the other hand received his "doctoral degree in medical biphysics with a moinor from Indiana University" You are right about Dr. Yu.
Also, BRS is not a study book, it is REVIEW book. So, after we cleared the facts about the faculty, something that took three threads, two of which were closed due to medstudent abusive language, I think it is time to apologize for polluting the thread of Class of 2009, for current stident rants should not scare incoming class or diminish their desire to study medicine. Granted, NYCOM has its issues, some of them are significant, but show me the school that does not.

Better yet, if the pdf is unavailable and since you have this old syllabus, please just scan these ONE or TWO pages of the old syllabus for me and email me the jpeg(s)? I need to see this with my very own eyes. I'm a bit skeptical of your claims.

I dug up my copy of the old syllabus and class catalog and found no reference to credentials stating one way or the other. Sorry if this will be an inconvenience to you but I really need to see this for myself. Thanks.

medstudent3563

03-01-2005, 02:59 PM

Better yet, if the pdf is unavailable and since you have this old syllabus, please just scan these ONE or TWO pages of the old syllabus for me and email me the jpeg(s)? I need to see this with my very own eyes. I'm a bit skeptical of your claims.

I dug up my copy of the old syllabus and class catalog and found no reference to credentials stating one way or the other. Sorry if this will be an inconvenience to you but I really need to see this for myself. Thanks.

I'm sorry, I apologize. I actually talked to Dr Stepp in his office today (about something else) and I asked him. He does have a PhD in Physiology.

But that doesn't change my opinion that Dr Stepp's instruction of physiology at NYCOM is god-aweful. A serious disservice to NYCOM's 1st years.

Have to get back to studying. Good luck all and just consider what I've said in your final decisions on where to attend. Thanks and take care.

Cowboy DO

03-01-2005, 03:54 PM

I can respect that. Not everyone likes the same teacher. I think Dr. Stepp was a sweet old guy, but in truth i went to his class maybe half the time. This maybe was because I’ve done some of this stuff before, but I also think that his handouts are so conclusive that going to class seemed redundant if you were going to read them 4x's anyway. I think that’s his intention though, class is for people who are having difficulty or want to ask questions. Otherwise if you don’t mind reading a lot you're good to go.

Also Id like to point out that memorizing minutia in the basic science courses is the very nature of med school, and is not a unique characteristic of Dr. Stepp or NYCOM. Like I said though I respect your opinion, I didn’t like Dr. Yu. However it is by no means a reason to not pick nycom as a school to attend ( a factor maybe but it shouldn’t be your only reason). Best of luck to you, it really does get better I promise. The first 2 years are the most stressful years of medical school, we are under a lot of pressure to perform, you just have to grin and bear it. To you incoming first years, get ready for the ride of your life...:D

J1515

03-01-2005, 03:56 PM

And believe it or not, with Dr Stepp's material, consulting a physiology textbook is to your detriment because its all about his crappy handouts.

It's all in the handouts? You basically know exactly what you're going to be tested on rather than reading chapters and chapters of textbooks and hoping you studied and recall the right thing? That's called being spoonfed. So you spend 24/7 memorizing useless facts you'll never have to use as a doctor...welcome to medical school. It seems like with NYCOM's class being twice as large as the avg class size there are also twice as many whiners on this board.

medstudent3563

03-02-2005, 12:36 AM

It's all in the handouts? You basically know exactly what you're going to be tested on rather than reading chapters and chapters of textbooks and hoping you studied and recall the right thing? That's called being spoonfed. So you spend 24/7 memorizing useless facts you'll never have to use as a doctor...welcome to medical school. It seems like with NYCOM's class being twice as large as the avg class size there are also twice as many whiners on this board.

You're full of <expletive>, you don't know what you're talking about. You're an incoming right? That means you haven't attended one class at NYCOM, what do you know about how things are run at NYCOM!? You have no credibility.

We'll see in a year, when you're sweating Physiology whether you still think Dr Stepp spoonfeeds you. This time next year you'll be eating some serious crow.

medstudent3563

03-02-2005, 12:53 AM

It's all in the handouts? You basically know exactly what you're going to be tested on rather than reading chapters and chapters of textbooks and hoping you studied and recall the right thing? That's called being spoonfed. So you spend 24/7 memorizing useless facts you'll never have to use as a doctor...welcome to medical school. It seems like with NYCOM's class being twice as large as the avg class size there are also twice as many whiners on this board.

Besides <expletive>, its about how well the course prepares you for the Physiology on the boards.

And if a poll were taken among current NYCOM 2nd years asking how many of them are now using Dr Stepps handouts to prepare for Physiology boards, I would be shocked if the number were much more than zero. That's how worthless (after you complete the course) they are.

And keep in mind, 1st years are given 500-600 pages of these handouts and probably spend 120-150 hours studying them.

tkim

03-02-2005, 12:57 AM

this is getting to be out of hand. if you want to criticize a school or faculty, please do it in a constructive way.

if the sole reason you registered on SDN was to bash a school, there's no reason for your continued membership here.

medstudent3563

03-02-2005, 03:10 AM

Besides <expletive>, its about how well the course prepares you for the Physiology on the boards.

And if a poll were taken among current NYCOM 2nd years asking how many of them are now using Dr Stepps handouts to prepare for Physiology boards, I would be shocked if the number were much more than zero. That's how worthless (after you complete the course) they are.

And keep in mind, 1st years are given 500-600 pages of these handouts and probably spend 120-150 hours studying them.

ps- Sorry for blasting this incoming. But, in medicine, if you did what this guy did- which is to question someone who:

1) knows about the subject they’re talking about (in this case its the state of NYCOM’s Physio course)
2) is passionate about the subject matter (like I am)

then you’re going to get a negative reaction.

And if you’re doing it from a position of little knowledge and, especially, from a position of disrespect (like he did) then you’re going to get blasted.

J1515

03-02-2005, 03:48 PM

ps- Sorry for blasting this incoming. But, in medicine, if you did what this guy did- which is to question someone who:

1) knows about the subject they’re talking about (in this case its the state of NYCOM’s Physio course)
2) is passionate about the subject matter (like I am)

then you’re going to get a negative reaction.

And if you’re doing it from a position of little knowledge and, especially, from a position of disrespect (like he did) then you’re going to get blasted.

I honestly don't care what you think about this professor. I don't have to sit through a class and experience it to be able to tell you that I'm going to study my ass off and suck it up instead of being a whiny crybaby and complain to everyone who will listen. I'm going into medical school realizing that i'm going to study 1000's of pages of text that i'll never use again, I don't care. I'm going into this knowing that I won't like some professors and will think they're wasting my time, I don't care. I'm going into this knowing that maybe I will have to memorize some of the most uninteresting garbage in the world and won't have a second of free time to have a life, I don't care. I have a bunch of friends at NYCOM and some of them have told me there are things that suck there, yet they're still passing all their classes (and some with honors) and they don't spend all their time trying to persuade me not to go there. Nor do they spend their time b!tching and whining on a public message board because they think it's "worthless."

Doc2B-Finally

03-06-2005, 01:43 PM

Any one decided on lender yet for NYCOM?
Are we obligated to choose one from this list only?
http://www.fes.org/onlineap/easiapp/easiapp.asp?SID=00278202&SLT=S

tedd1212

03-06-2005, 10:28 PM

after seeing that some of you got your packets requesting the march payment I called NYCOM the other day to see where mine was. the admin lady said that they were waiting to see what kind of immunizations were going to be required of the 2009 students. once they decided on this they would send out the march payment request packets. she also said that if the packets don't get out in time they may push the deadline back a bit. thought this might be useful for anyone waiting to hear from other schools before shelling out 1000beans. :thumbup:

Biodork111

03-08-2005, 05:58 PM

tedd1212

03-08-2005, 06:47 PM

Is this true about the deposits? I called them yesterday to confirm when my march payment is due, they just said they were sending a letter out this week. Does that mean that the previous date (3/22) is nullified? If so that would be huge as I was just pounded with some unexpected expenses.

she said MAYBE if things didn't get sent out on time. it was contingent on when they got all their info together and sent out. sorry if i got your hopes up for nothing.

Ajooba10

03-09-2005, 08:31 AM

Is this true about the deposits? I called them yesterday to confirm when my march payment is due, they just said they were sending a letter out this week. Does that mean that the previous date (3/22) is nullified? If so that would be huge as I was just pounded with some unexpected expenses.
I also called about the letter requesting the second payment. They said there was a delay but they will be sent out and I can wait until I receive the letter before I send the payment. But you could always call again to make sure.

Biodork111

03-09-2005, 04:06 PM

The date I thought mine was due (3/22) is fine, I just also heard some people kicking around an earlier date...which would be pushing it. Granted I got myself into this mess (bought myself a car for a grad. present, and now I have to pay the taxes on it...gotta love NY), but it would be nice to have it put off a little bit. Maybe I'll try calling again, although they don't seem to like when I call. The woman practically yelled at me yesterday.

ornis4

03-14-2005, 09:37 PM

irishlaydi

03-15-2005, 08:25 AM

Just bumping this up...and also wondering who has decided on a lender for financial aid? I can't decide if it's really nice of them to give us so many choices, or if it's completely rude if one is better than the others. I've been looking stuff over all night and still can't really decide. I think maybe MEDLoans and Medinvest are two that stand out...but I can't decide. Anyone else decide or definitively determine which is best?

Hi. It took me forever to decide, but to me it looks like MedInvest is the best one. Someone else had said MedLoans looked good, but they have guaranter fees and origination fees. The medinvest doesn't and they have a better "cash back" deal (you get a certain % after each 12 payments ontime, something like that) whereas with other ones its not until 33 ontime payments...it just seemed the best once I figured all the numbers and such. The other one that I was deciding between was Total Higher Education (T.H.E) which a current med student on sdn was recommending to people. BUt that ones not on NYCOM's list, and MedINvest looked to be a better option. Just my opinion, hope it helps. :luck:

mblum151

03-15-2005, 08:55 AM

Hi. It took me forever to decide, but to me it looks like MedInvest is the best one. Someone else had said MedLoans looked good, but they have guaranter fees and origination fees. The medinvest doesn't and they have a better "cash back" deal (you get a certain % after each 12 payments ontime, something like that) whereas with other ones its not until 33 ontime payments...it just seemed the best once I figured all the numbers and such. The other one that I was deciding between was Total Higher Education (T.H.E) which a current med student on sdn was recommending to people. BUt that ones not on NYCOM's list, and MedINvest looked to be a better option. Just my opinion, hope it helps. :luck:

I chose MedPreffered. My brother worked out a spread sheet with all the different lenders, and it seems like MedPreffered will allow you to pay off the loans in the shortest ammount of time (107 months) and gives you 10% credit after 48 months. It just seemed like the best deal to me.

mblum151

03-15-2005, 08:57 AM

Does anyone know the schedule of classes and exams? I have no idea what our time in class is looking like. Also, do most students live by Old Westbury? Would it be too much to commute from Manhattan?

Thanks!

misyel

03-15-2005, 06:52 PM

Also Id like to point out that memorizing minutia in the basic science courses is the very nature of med school, and is not a unique characteristic of Dr. Stepp or NYCOM. Like I said though I respect your opinion, I didn’t like Dr. Yu. However it is by no means a reason to not pick nycom as a school to attend ( a factor maybe but it shouldn’t be your only reason). Best of luck to you, it really does get better I promise. The first 2 years are the most stressful years of medical school, we are under a lot of pressure to perform, you just have to grin and bear it. To you incoming first years, get ready for the ride of your life...:D

hahahaha I just remembered something about Dr. Yu... I came up to him during class about the stupid T wave and why it's positive... I read his handouts before hand and I tried looking it up myself... he gave me this "are you stupid" look and told me to go home and read, and then ask him again. What the heck! LoL

seacatch

03-15-2005, 07:04 PM

Doc2B-Finally

03-15-2005, 08:06 PM

Hi. It took me forever to decide, but to me it looks like MedInvest is the best one. Someone else had said MedLoans looked good, but they have guaranter fees and origination fees. The medinvest doesn't and they have a better "cash back" deal (you get a certain % after each 12 payments ontime, something like that) whereas with other ones its not until 33 ontime payments...it just seemed the best once I figured all the numbers and such. The other one that I was deciding between was Total Higher Education (T.H.E) which a current med student on sdn was recommending to people. BUt that ones not on NYCOM's list, and MedINvest looked to be a better option. Just my opinion, hope it helps. :luck:
Irishlaydi, it is my understanding that it doesn't matter which lender you go with. Even though T.H.E. is a not on NYCOM's list of preferred lender, we can still choose T.H.E. Some one please correct me if I am wrong. Based on my calculations, pay-off amount is the lowest with T.H.E. stafford loans. As a result, I intend to stick with them.

ornis4

03-15-2005, 09:14 PM

Hey Ornis. Have you decided on NYCOM? I think you interviewed in my group. Dec 7th w/ Pavia? I'll be attending for sure and am researching the loans now too.

Hey there! Yeah I interviewed on Dec. 7th, seems like years ago now...although I still have the vivid memory of steady rain and me forgetting my umbrella...

NYCOM is not a definite for me yet...although I'm leaning that way. I'm holding seats at NYCOM and PCOM, waitlisted at UMDNJ-SOM, and I have an interview at UConn this friday, and that's been my first choice from day one. So any number of things can still happen. Of the DO schools, I think NYCOM has the edge for me based on clinical years and their match. I'm not in love with the Westbury campus/area, and I'm not entirely sure I wouldn't like my first two years at PCOM or UMDNJ-SOM better than NYCOM...but when it comes down to it, I love the NYC area, and the rotation sites can't be beat. If I don't get into UConn, then I'll probably be at NYCOM! And that's fine by me, I think it will be a great experience.

As for T.H.E. Loans...if we're allowed to choose them, then I encourage everyone to do so. I have been in grad school the past two years at NYMC, and they only go through T.H.E., and I really think it's the best, hands-down. Once I get confirmation that we can go through them, I'll definitely choose them.

seacatch

03-16-2005, 05:38 AM

I'm leaning toward T.H.E. also. It seems the best option given uncertainty of future rates and the ability to consolidate. I still need to confirm NYCOM will not have a problem with it.

I remember interview day too. Not a very smooth one... lunch... rain... guides. I was the last one interviewed (and I was the oldest of us...). NYCOMs 3rd and 4th year options are great and the match is a big plus. I really like the flexibility to watch lectures over the internet. Good luck with U Conn. Otherwise perhaps I'll see you in August at NYCOM.

DrBean09

03-16-2005, 05:36 PM

hi guys i was accepted into nycom last month but i'm still not 100% sure... (reserved but not confirmed) but if i decide to go there it would be nice to meet u all everyone sounds really supportive. :)

Doc2B-Finally

03-16-2005, 05:45 PM

I called NYCOM Finaid and confirmed that borrowing from the non-listed lenders is not a problem. That clears up a way for us to consider T.H.E. or other lenders.

seacatch

03-16-2005, 06:31 PM

I called NYCOM Finaid and confirmed that borrowing from the non-listed lenders is not a problem. That clears up a way for us to consider T.H.E. or other lenders.

Thanks for clearing it up. It saves me a call tomorrow and I'm probably going for T.H.E. too.

FutureFemmeDoc

03-17-2005, 11:51 AM

Irishlaydi, it is my understanding that it doesn't matter which lender you go with. Even though T.H.E. is a not on NYCOM's list of preferred lender, we can still choose T.H.E. Some one please correct me if I am wrong. Based on my calculations, pay-off amount is the lowest with T.H.E. stafford loans. As a result, I intend to stick with them.

Hi! I wish I had known about T.H.E. sooner! I just submitted my forms last week and finally went with MedInvest. It took me a long time and some research to decide... Hope it works out!

Anybody else thinking about housing??? Is it true that at some point NYCOM will send us a website with housing options?? Thanks! :)

Peon9985

03-17-2005, 05:30 PM

BATiger

03-19-2005, 07:29 AM

Just got my second letter asking for the second deposit heheheh its due april 1st.. Anyhow weird question.. I had filled out those financial aid forms about a month ago and now NYCOM has sent them to me again... I'm wondering if any one here received the same forms twice?

I just got the same information in the mail, and yes I received the forms twice also. Does anyone know if there is any flexibility with the second deposit? Is there anyway to get even a 2 week extension on it?

djquick83

03-19-2005, 06:15 PM

For a two week extension, they will probably bump u off and get someone on the wait list who has the cash. :eek: J/K ;)

Peon9985

03-19-2005, 06:18 PM

Hmm maybe I should try and get an extension.... lol.. Man dealing with this financial aid crap is giving me a headache.. esp when you call that lady there... she just you such attitude.

BATiger

03-19-2005, 09:07 PM

NYCOM asks for a lot of money up front and I am waiting to hear from another school whose admissions committee meets 3/31. All decisions have to be approved by the dean before they are finalized, so there is no way I will hear by 4/1. $1000 is a lot of money to throw away when you only make $12/hr! :)

Peon9985

03-20-2005, 03:40 PM

Does anyone know if NYCOM will give us PDA's when we start attending? Cause I hear they did. Just wanting to make sure so that I don't go and get one myself.

FutureFemmeDoc

03-20-2005, 03:48 PM

Does anyone know if NYCOM will give us PDA's when we start attending? Cause I hear they did. Just wanting to make sure so that I don't go and get one myself.

On my interview day, I think the students told us that they are given a PDA after second year but I may be mistaken..

anars28

03-21-2005, 07:09 AM

Has anyone spoken to the director of admissions at NYCOM? I haven't received an interview and was thinking about going up there to talk to admissions. I just want to make sure I won't be wasting my time if they aren't responsive.

Thanks!

beastmaster

03-22-2005, 10:16 PM

There is a good chance that I will attend NYCOM this August. If anyone wants to IM me to discuss anything, feel free.

endAIDScom

03-28-2005, 06:32 PM

I'm going to your school. Let's collaborate.

endAIDScom

03-28-2005, 06:38 PM

Is it possible to rent a house within 20 minutes drive of campus?
Do people ever rent places and share them with other students at NYCOM?
Or are these just rumors?

djquick83

03-30-2005, 01:43 PM

Rent an apartment maybe. Rent a house ? Good luck finding other friends to help u pay the mortgage off not including yearly taxes in Nassau County. :eek: Im sure there are 2 family houses that rent out each individual family dwelling. Thats something to look into and Im sure its possible given they havent been already taken by any other NYCOM students or outside ppl.

Dr. Kasper

04-03-2005, 08:26 PM

HEY ALL -

I am 90% sure I will be attending NYCOM CLASS OF 2009 ;)

I also recieved the financial aid package and was quite confused. I called the financial aid office and I thought that lady was abrupt and rude as well.

Anyway I am a bit confused with the financial aid still. I filled out my fafsa and I am in the process of filling out all the forms that need to be sent to back to the school. Choosing a Lender has been crazy!! I think Medinvest seems the best so far.

Does anyone know how much they are borrowing though? In the prelim application (white paper question 8) can someone clarify for me how much are we allowed to borrow? I think its 38,500 Stafford Loans and then what if i need more? Im soo confused!! please help thanks

BATiger

04-05-2005, 08:34 AM

stoleyerscrubz

04-05-2005, 09:12 AM

Isn't the tuition at NYCOM over $30,000?

The maximum you can borrow for the Stafford loan is $40,722, so put that in question 8. If you need more, you need to get a private loan. The financial aid lady told me borrowing $40,722 generally leaves you with $19,000 to live on.

djquick83

04-05-2005, 10:38 AM

Isn't the tuition at NYCOM over $30,000?

Yea. Its almost $35K the first year. School is a ripoff if u ask me. NO SCHOOL IN THE WORLD IS WORTH $35K a year. Education should be a priveledge to those who want it and are able to handle it. I could understand tuition as being something to help pay for services provided, but $35K for 250 students each class is more than enough to provide for the resources we have there or anywhere else in the world. At those rates, they should give us a place to live, food, a car, an expense account, and free healthcare along with their education.

BATiger

04-05-2005, 10:51 AM

Sorry for the confusion, what I meant was they generally recommend having approx. $19,000 a year to live on for books, food and rent. You are correct, borrowing the max. Stafford loan only leaves you with $5000, so unless you are living at home I guess we all will be getting private loans in addition to Stafford. Boo.

stoleyerscrubz

04-05-2005, 12:31 PM

I am applying there this year so I got a little excited reading that. Oh well. Good luck to you all!

Sorry for the confusion, what I meant was they generally recommend having approx. $19,000 a year to live on for books, food and rent. You are correct, borrowing the max. Stafford loan only leaves you with $5000, so unless you are living at home I guess we all will be getting private loans in addition to Stafford. Boo.

Dr. Kasper

04-05-2005, 08:16 PM

Thank you all for helping me, I will be now just figuring out what lender to choose. What are you guys leaning towards?

Also did you sign the authroization statement granting or denying NYCOM use of any excess funds?? Could someone clarify this as well? I think I am suppose to sign it granting them usage.

thanks

Juniperbee

04-08-2005, 06:21 PM

I just found out that I was accepted to NYCOM. Can't wait to see everyone in the fall.

endAIDScom

04-18-2005, 12:57 PM

seacatch

04-18-2005, 03:32 PM

Hey has anyone gotten the application for the doctor patient continum yet?
If so have you filled it out?

I haven't and I'm starting to get afraid that it was a trick to make me and others pick NYCOM over (otherwise) better schools.

I spoke with the director of admissions earlier today. I didn't get the packet either. She said she would send it right out (again?). Anyway, she said we wouldn't know if we get the PBL track until the first week of school (orientation).

tedd1212

04-18-2005, 07:02 PM

I spoke with the director of admissions earlier today. I didn't get the packet either. She said she would send it right out (again?). Anyway, she said we wouldn't know if we get the PBL track until the first week of school (orientation).

I'm an idiot. what is this dr patient "continum?" i am class of 09. is this something that i should be looking for in the mail? i moved and nycom has been having a bit of a time keeping up with my address. also, have they released anything concerning curriculum modifications for 05-06?
t

Doc2B-Finally

04-18-2005, 07:39 PM

Kry

04-19-2005, 12:01 AM

Any idea what Quality Progress Indicator Exam is? I was reading NYCOM calener for 2008 class and came across it "ACADEMIC CALENDAR 2004-2005
Class of 2008 (1st year)
Orientation .................................................. .............................Tuesday, August 24 – Friday, August 27, 2004
.................................................. ....(August 26 – Quality Progress Indicator exam; August 27 – Barbeque)"

May be current NYCOM students can provide some information about it.

I'll paste a direct quote from an email I have regarding the QPI.

This exam is a collaborative venture between NYCOM and several other medical colleges (osteopathic and allopathic) in which all four undergraduate medical classes, interns and residents take a comprehensive exam for the purpose of feedback and self-assessment. It is an important component in NYCOM’s on-going effort to comprehensively assess, assure and enhance the quality of our educational continuum (undergraduate and postgraduate medical education curriculum).

Our objectives for the exam are twofold: 1) provide program evaluation through overall group performance (outcome focused), and 2) provide students, interns, and residents with individual feedback on their systematic knowledge acquisition and progression. As you probably know, the exam does not require study, there is no charge for the exam, you cannot pass or fail, and you will be able to assess your individual progress in learning.

The exam will allow you to compare your performance vis-à-vis your entire class as well as class levels above and below you (other students, interns/residents in our educational continuum). It is intended solely as a means of feedback, without any bearing on graduation or any other official recommendations. You can use the exam to determine the extent of future preparation you may require to enhance your performance on COMLEX exams.

The exam is comprised of 330 items, encompassing all basic and clinical science disciplines. Upon completion of the administration of the exam, arrangements will be made to return your exam booklet to you to facilitate your review of content.

If you have any other questions pertaining to first year don't hesitate in contacting me. Otherwise, I'll see you all during orientation.

Kry
MSS Treasurer
Class of 2008

endAIDScom

04-19-2005, 09:35 AM

I'm an idiot. what is this dr patient "continum?" i am class of 09. is this something that i should be looking for in the mail? i moved and nycom has been having a bit of a time keeping up with my address. also, have they released anything concerning curriculum modifications for 05-06?
t

DPC is NYCOM's problem based track. 2005 will be the first year it's offered.
They seem to have just decided to go foward with it the week I interviewed there (March 1st), so they may not have told you about it. We were told at our admissions presentation that it would be limited to 40 students
(2 groups of 20) and that there was a seperate application that we would be sent after signing our matriculation agreements.

tedd1212

04-19-2005, 12:20 PM

DPC is NYCOM's problem based track. 2005 will be the first year it's offered.
They seem to have just decided to go foward with it the week I interviewed there (March 1st), so they may not have told you about it. We were told at our admissions presentation that it would be limited to 40 students
(2 groups of 20) and that there was a seperate application that we would be sent after signing our matriculation agreements.

Thanks for the info. i contacted admissions this morning and the lady was like, "you didn't receive it???? I'll get another one in the mail to you right away." when i asked for some details she simply said that it was quite complex and that the info packet would explain everything...interesting.

Doc2B-Finally

04-19-2005, 07:06 PM

Just curious.
Did any one hear from NHSC about scholarship interview?
BTW, I called NYCOM about PDC and was told that the package will be mailed shortly and will include a seperate application to sign up for the same. Lots of details are still in works, so the admissions office is also not aware of all the details.

djquick83

04-20-2005, 07:39 AM

Cool, im waiting for soem more info as well.

misyel

04-20-2005, 01:39 PM

hey guys,

I know I'm completely out of topic, but I just wanted to invite all of you future NYCOMers to come and join the NYCOM team as we participate in AIDS Walk NY 2005. The event will be held in Central Park on May 15th. Considering we're the biggest medical school, I think it's important that we have a big turnout. Come support your new school, and meet some future colleagues!

For more information about the walk, please go to:

http://www.aidswalk.net/newyork

If you're around the New York City area at this time, consider walking with us by joining Team New York College of Osteopathic Medicine (9446) or clicking on this link:

https://www.kintera.org/faf/reg_new/register.asp?ievent=92100&lis=1&kntae92100=C1947B46EF6A48549B3152165BCC0BBC&jt=900362&teamsName=New+York+College+of+Osteopathic+Medicine +%2D+9446

If not, you can also show us your support by contributing to the team. Just click on this link:

https://www.kintera.org/faf/search/searchTeamPart.asp?ievent=92100&lis=1&kntae92100=EB2A3743D6E24C44A4B23B2DF7C31103&supId=0&team=900362&cj=Y

Thanks a lot everyone, and feel free to PM me if you have any questions.

Michele Malit
NYCOM Team Leader
SOMA President '05-'06

chimebo

04-20-2005, 02:11 PM

Hey guys, I though I would try to answer some of the questions I have seen about NYCOM.... You should get access to the NYCOM webboard sometime soonish, if you have not already. there is a specific posting for housing...where you can find an apartment, roommate, post a place, etc. That is how I found my housing last year. Also, there is always craigslist.com, which is also useful. I would say most people I know live in Glen Cove and the surrounding towns, but others do commute from the city. Just be aware that the LIE can be a nightmare, so the further away you live, the earlier you have to get up in the morning to drive to school. You can definitely rent a whole house, but you will porbably need a few people to do it with you. The QPI is this whole day exam, that tests all of your medical knowledge...when you first take it, you are only supposed to get around 30% and you take it again at the end of the year and every year after, into residency, I believe. You are supposed to increase your percentage. Anyways, the test is not for a grade or anything, it is just a means for the school to see statistically how the class is doing, what it is stronger, weaker in, etc. Some people take it very seriously and some don't and finish each of the two sections in twenty minutes. Also, I have heard that the Class of 2009 will be taught using the PBL model, which is really exciting. If you all have any other questions...feel free to PM me. :)

misyel

04-20-2005, 02:22 PM

endAIDScom

04-20-2005, 03:40 PM

Seriously, where does our 35k a year go ? Everytime u call the school for some info about something, they give u a blank stare like ure from Mars or something. The school is def. not up to date on handling any type of important info for the students.

During my interview at TUCOM CA members of the interview panel had an open argument about whether the nursing and pharmacy schools were starting in the fall. You would think they would know since they would be teaching classes to both, but they didn't.

And my tour quide didn't know if there was a student center or not.

So we're actually pretty lucky to go to NYCOM. :D

SuperFemDoc22

04-21-2005, 03:59 PM

misyel

04-21-2005, 07:52 PM

I think I'm going to pass on that DPC program thing. I'm not a big fan of being a guinea pig for some new program. New programs are always buggy during the inception and I don't want to deal with all the annoying kinks. Especially since they decided to do it as a last minute thing (maybe to encourage undecided people to choose NYCOM). And quite frankly, I don't fully understand the whole concept so I think I'm just going to go with the regular lecture based cirriculum. Just my 2 cents.

The program at NYCOM has actually been 2 years in the making. Just so you know, Dr. Portanova is in charge of the PBL program, and he's managed other PBL programs in other schools such as OUCOM (and another MD school I believe?). The concept of PBL is new at NYCOM, but he's been managing PBL for at least 10 years. It's not like they just thought of this in 6 months just to attract more people to go to NYCOM. If it's attendance they're after, there's always someone who's willing to take up any open medical school spots.

If you feel that you don't want to choose the program because you "don't fully understand the whole concept" of it, you should research it a little bit more, or better yet, email Dr. Portanova at portanov@nyit.edu and have him clarify some of your questions, instead of making immediate decisions. You'll never know, it might be the right program for you.

eag

04-22-2005, 06:38 AM

I was wondering where I could get a list of the clinical affiliates that NYCOM is associated with. Thanks

Doc2B-Finally

04-23-2005, 11:37 AM

I was wondering where I could get a list of the clinical affiliates that NYCOM is associated with. Thanks

You can find NYCOM clinical affiliate sites here.
http://iris.nyit.edu/~nycomec/
Hope this helps.
Good luck.

Juniperbee

04-24-2005, 10:23 AM

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to know how long after mailing the initial deposit did everyone receive additional information from NYCOM and a financial aid packet. Thanks

Doc2B-Finally

04-24-2005, 10:45 AM

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to know how long after mailing the initial deposit did everyone receive additional information from NYCOM and a financial aid packet. Thanks

Hi,
I think sometime in February I started receiving Fin-aid documents from NYCOM. (2 months after my acceptance letter.)

tedd1212

04-26-2005, 03:44 AM

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to know how long after mailing the initial deposit did everyone receive additional information from NYCOM and a financial aid packet. Thanks

i got accepted in Dec and started getting packets in march. i think the delay was because they were updating some of the papers. now i would expect that fin aid ect should go out pretty quickly. i never got the DPC letter till i called the other day so if you feel like it has been a while i would give them a call just to make sure you aren't missing anything.

class of '09, represent

drjazz

04-30-2005, 02:13 PM

Hey guys,
I made the final decision to attend NYCOM yesterday and I am very excited! Hope to meet some of you soon! What are you guys doing for housing? Are you searching on your own or waiting for the school webboard stuff?
Thanks!

Cthulu

05-03-2005, 09:00 AM

I wonder when they'll give us book lists. I heard some of those texts can be hard to get ahold of so the more time to get them the better.

misyel

05-03-2005, 03:37 PM

Don't buy the books yet. The Student Osteopathic Medical Association (SOMA) will partner you up with a big brother/big sister during orientation week. You can ask your big bro/sis all about which books you'll actually need and which ones you can get by without. That way you won't be stuck buying all these books and then worry about how you're gonna sell them off later on.

Michele
SOMA President '05-'06

DotheDo

05-03-2005, 06:09 PM

Hi all,
If your looking for housing, shoot me a PM because I have two great housing opportunities for this fall.

Cthulu

05-04-2005, 03:35 PM

Thanks Misyel. Right now I'm fighting through finals and finding myself a roof for next year.

endAIDScom

05-08-2005, 12:24 PM

Upperclassment (you know who you are) - who do you use for cell service?

The major carriers all claim to have great coverage all around nycom, but a lot of the service maps on their websites make it look like roaming central.

Who has the best coverage up there?

Any horror stories?

I need to get a phone this week that I can use both in philadelphia, and in the glen cove/oysterbay area once I move.
Looking mostly at Sprint and Cingular, but I'm open.

Thanks!

Ifellinapothole

05-09-2005, 01:21 PM

can you commute to NYCOM from Manhattan or Queens (Forest Hills or Kew Gardens)?

Anyone know?

tedd1212

05-09-2005, 04:02 PM

can you commute to NYCOM from Manhattan or Queens (Forest Hills or Kew Gardens)?

I did the drive on northern blvd (25A) the other day from flushing to NYCOM. it took about 30minutes on a sunday afternoon so i am sure that you would be looking at at least 30min from kew gardens to campus during the week. also note that i am class of 09 and i live in bklyn so i don't really know what i am talking about. i am however planning on getting a place in that area so lets hope that it can be done without too much road rage. driving makes me angry :meanie:

the train from the city is gonna take 40min at least plus the cab/bus (hicksville) to get to campus. i've heard of people doing it but eeewwww is all i can say to that. then again, if you are from LI then you are probably use to the drive so it isn't thought of as a big deal. i just wish i could ride my bike there...
- senor scatterbrain

misyel

05-09-2005, 10:39 PM

tedd1212

05-10-2005, 06:18 AM

i live in nyc/bklyn and have had ATT for about 5 years. their digital service use to be great but now it stinks. there have been several occasions where i haven't gotten text msgs. they merged with cingular and are switching over to GSM. my boss is having as many problems with GSM as i am having with digital. in sept my contract is up and i think i'm gonna go verison.

cup n string is really the only guaranteed service

skiiboy

05-10-2005, 07:14 AM

I have lived about 10 minutes from NYCOM my entire life. I have Verizon and have never even considered switching companies. In my experience Verizon, hands down offers the best service. :thumbup: :thumbup:

djquick83

05-10-2005, 07:33 PM

can you commute to NYCOM from Manhattan or Queens (Forest Hills or Kew Gardens)?

Anyone know?

Yea. Its called driving a car on the LIE. Mass transit will suck, even if u take LIRR cause it wont drop u right off by the school.

endAIDScom

05-15-2005, 01:22 PM

Can anybody suggest a good place for breakfast in Glen Cove?
I'm driving up from Philly to look at housing next weekend and I'm going to be hungry when I get there :p .

DPickholtz

05-15-2005, 07:59 PM

I'm in too. Anyone have info on the housing situation in the Old Westbury area? I would prefer to not have to commute from bklyn. What neighboring towns are reasonably priced and convenient for someone looking for a 1bdroom for <$1000?

I commuted from brooklyn, it wasn't too bad.....

congrats on getting in I'll see you guys soon

Ifellinapothole

05-16-2005, 07:36 AM

I commuted from brooklyn, it wasn't too bad.....

congrats on getting in I'll see you guys soon

How far is the commute from Park Slope area or other area in Brooklyn?

Anyone know?

Also, what did you usually commute from B'klyn: take BQE to Northern State or LIE or something else?

Thanks for your help.

BATiger

05-16-2005, 07:59 AM

How far is the commute from Park Slope area or other area in Brooklyn?

Anyone know?

Also, what did you usually commute from B'klyn: take BQE to Northern State or LIE or something else?

Thanks for your help.

Hey Ifellinapothole,
I also live in park slope and everyone is telling me to not even attempt the commute. Mapquest says it will take 40 min to drive there, but with traffic it will be at least an hour, probably 1 1/2 hours . And forget about the unreliable LIRR, then connecting to a bus, no way. I think I am going to have to look for a place in long island, even though I love the slope :)

tedd1212

05-16-2005, 03:38 PM

Hey Ifellinapothole,
I also live in park slope and everyone is telling me to not even attempt the commute. Mapquest says it will take 40 min to drive there, but with traffic it will be at least an hour, probably 1 1/2 hours . And forget about the unreliable LIRR, then connecting to a bus, no way. I think I am going to have to look for a place in long island, even though I love the slope :)

i currently live in FT Greene, bklyn, right next to the BQE and as i look out my window right now at 5:30 on a monday afternoon i can tell you that traffic is backed up as far as my eyes can see. if you are use to that kind of thing then go for it. traffic makes me nuts :scared: and LI traffic is expecially bad. i'm planning on moving to somewhere in queens with the hope of finding a place tween school and the city.

take note that i am entering this fall and haven't done the drive on the reg.

misyel

05-18-2005, 09:30 PM

I commuted from brooklyn, it wasn't too bad.....

congrats on getting in I'll see you guys soon

Hey I know you.... you're lurking in the 2009 thread too, huh? =)

Ifellinapothole

05-20-2005, 12:14 PM

I commuted from brooklyn, it wasn't too bad.....

How bad is not too bad?

Can you give me some time estimates from Park Slope?

I appreciate it.. If not, I 'll have to move to Queens near Northern State.

Thanks

BATiger

05-22-2005, 08:03 AM

Has anyone received a username and password from the school yet? I would really like to have access to the website, especially for housing information...

drjazz

05-22-2005, 08:05 AM

Hey,
I stopped in at the school last week and asked about this same issue. They said all information will be posted on the website as of June 1st :thumbup:

AmieDO

05-24-2005, 08:59 AM

I have also been accepted to NYCOM and recently accepted my acceptance. I am really excited to go. I am currently searching for housing and wondered if anyone had any information or advice. I have also considered having roomates to save money if anyone was also interested and looking. Look forward to hearing from you.
Thanks, Amie :)

egurass

05-24-2005, 07:14 PM

hi there,

i'm in for this coming semeter, too - coming from Boston!!
i'm totally new to the area, and looking for roomates!!
is anyone looking for a roomate???

GqDocStar

05-25-2005, 12:22 AM

can you guys let me know how long it took between your interview and your acceptance and if you sent in letters of intent ect inbetween. i interviewed 4/21 and have yet to hear anything from nycom.

SuperFemDoc22

05-25-2005, 09:14 AM

I need a roomate too. Apartments near the school can range pricewise from $425 to $900+ per person. I'm planning on looking at a few places in a few weeks but there aren't too many places open. I believe there should be a lot of available apartments in July since thats when most people move out. It is definately a better idea to have at least one roomate to split the bills. If you are female, clean and responsible send me a private message if you need a roomate.

intelichi

05-25-2005, 11:26 AM

did everyone have to participate in the med-prep program for one month? june 1st to july 1st?

misyel

05-25-2005, 07:28 PM

I know of a housing opportunity, 2 minutes from school, 2 blocks from Pathmark, Starbucks, Kinkos, a bar (everything esential to medical school life!). Rent is $650 (not including utilities) for a room in a 2BR apartment with kitchen, bath and living room. The available room has wall-to-wall carpeting plus a ceiling fan. Plenty of on-the-street parking. No pets, and no smoking. 1 year lease starts July 1st. If interested, PM me so I can give you the contact information. Thanks!

endAIDScom

05-26-2005, 02:56 PM

did everyone have to participate in the med-prep program for one month? june 1st to july 1st?

:sleep: I didn't even hear about it. What is it?

intelichi

05-26-2005, 03:50 PM

BATiger

05-27-2005, 07:28 PM

the medprep is a month long program with classes on biochem, anatomy, phyisiology, omm intro., community med, e.t.c the classes run from 9-4 everyday (like summer school) u get to meet faculty and get a fill of the school. i guess it is only available to certain students. i got something in the mail asking me if i want to attend. it starts on wed. june 1 and then oreintation starts at the end of aug.

I was told by a nycom student who participated in medprep last year that it is a program for people who had some bad grades or a low mcat. They allow some students to take it, and if they do well, they may be accepted into the class in the fall if there is space available. That wouldn't make sense it your case, intelichi, since you were already accepted... I am confused! The student I talked to said she bombed the mcat, but the rest of her application was strong, so they offered her the medprep plan.

GqDocStar

05-28-2005, 01:12 PM

misyel

05-28-2005, 03:31 PM

that makes sense...if you had low grades in your undergrad i could see how exposure to med school environment would get you transitioned to how it will be in the comming year. ive heard of programs that are simmilar in a lot of other medical programs, DO and MD. i would like to do a medprep thing regardless of my grades because i think that its good exposure even if you did ok in undergrad...i think it would be fun ..its not too long since its only a month..i think people would make good connections and still have july and august to enjoy summer.

NOTHING can prepare you for medical school except for accepting the fact that life will never be the same after you start school. You can expose yourself to the medical school environment all you want, but you know, it's going to make a difference because it's NOT the medical school environment. The connections you make aren't that important, because you'll have plenty of opportunities to get to know the professors in the future. Unless you were required to take the course, I suggest spending as much of your free time out on the beach, vacationing, anywhere away from lecture halls because you'll have more than enough of your share of it next year.

I think the key to doing well in medical school is working hard FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. Don't fall behind, because it's going to be sooo difficult to catch up. Once you start failing block exams, it'll just start snowballing from there. Also, if you studying hard on weekdays, you'll be able to afford having weekends off to do what you want to do.

DPickholtz

05-29-2005, 11:02 AM

Does anyone have access to the message board? Isn't that the place where there are housing options? Any info would be great...Thanks.

if you are talking abou the NYCOM web board, you guys wont be able to access it untill you get the school email addresses...

yeah it sucks but there are working on something for you guys to let you know about housing/carpools/other stuff...

congrats to you guys for getting in.

DPickholtz

05-29-2005, 11:07 AM

How far is the commute from Park Slope area or other area in Brooklyn?

Anyone know?

Also, what did you usually commute from B'klyn: take BQE to Northern State or LIE or something else?

Thanks for your help.

I live in midwood so I had my choice of ways to get to school....
from park slope best bet is the Jackie (Jackie robinson pkwy) to GCP (grand central parkway which becomes the northern state....

I know some people took the BQE to the LIE but that made little sense from where I live, from park slope it may not be that bad an idea consitering that the jackie can get horribly backed up.

if you want more info feel free to email me

misyel

05-29-2005, 02:39 PM

if you are talking abou the NYCOM web board, you guys wont be able to access it untill you get the school email addresses...

yeah it sucks but there are working on something for you guys to let you know about housing/carpools/other stuff...

congrats to you guys for getting in.

I had access to it as early as February! LoL Just email Linda at ldarroch@nyit.edu and she should be able to set it up for you. You don't need the nyit emai address to log on. The academic websites, though, are a different story.

Michele

GqDocStar

05-29-2005, 09:25 PM

DPickholtz

05-31-2005, 07:50 PM

does anyone know how many students were accepted to the class of 2008 last year...reading minutes from quarterly reports it says 300+ so i wanted to hear from some 2008ers about how many they have in their class. maybe it will alleviate the nervousness i have about getting accepted this late in the cycle

we had ~316 at the start of the year...don't know how many we lost (althought it may be ~10%), some of them are returning in your class (we won't name names), some arent. Its all good, other than the fact that I still walk into exams and look around and think who are these people.....

...then I realize I'm not in the right room.... :laugh:

DPickholtz

05-31-2005, 07:54 PM

I had access to it as early as February! LoL Just email Linda at ldarroch@nyit.edu and she should be able to set it up for you. You don't need the nyit emai address to log on. The academic websites, though, are a different story.

Michele

well michelle (trouble maker :p ),
I was just saying what I hear from linda about the policy in general, they want to shy away from non NYIT addresses linked to the web board account...

hey if youguys can get on there all the power to ya, theres some good housing info up....

DPickholtz

05-31-2005, 08:27 PM

Hey I know you.... you're lurking in the 2009 thread too, huh? =)

we have one of our own?

misyel

06-01-2005, 12:39 PM

well michelle (trouble maker :p ),
I was just saying what I hear from linda about the policy in general, they want to shy away from non NYIT addresses linked to the web board account...

hey if youguys can get on there all the power to ya, theres some good housing info up....

Yeah, I am a trouble maker... I saw that email and I'm like, WHOOPS, that's me!!!! LoL

Michele

Ifellinapothole

06-01-2005, 01:40 PM

How are the 3rd and 4th year rotation sites?

Good training?

DPickholtz

06-01-2005, 05:41 PM

Yeah, I am a trouble maker... I saw that email and I'm like, WHOOPS, that's me!!!! LoL

Michele

do you think these kids would like us to open a thread where we post the housing crap from the webboard here?

Kry

06-01-2005, 08:46 PM

do you think these kids would like us to open a thread where we post the housing crap from the webboard here?

Yeah I think we should since they won't have access to the webboard for a while according to Linda, "... they will not be getting access to the web board this year until after they start school in August and all orientation information will be posted on NYCOM web site this year."

Junebugs

06-01-2005, 09:50 PM

misyel

06-01-2005, 10:11 PM

Yeah I think we should since they won't have access to the webboard for a while according to Linda, "... they will not be getting access to the web board this year until after they start school in August and all orientation information will be posted on NYCOM web site this year."

I think it's a great idea! There's a lot of people on the webboard posting housing information, it would be such a waste if those who need housing won't be able to access it.

Hey Dov, you can do the honors! :p (Did you sign up as a SOMA Big Bro?)

jaz912

06-03-2005, 11:37 AM

I have been having sooo much trouble trying to find housing and I haven't had the time to come up to Long Island yet. So it would be great if you guys could give us some information about housing. If anyone is interested i'm looking for a female roommate or 2 to live with. I am 22. I'm a student at UMDNJ-in the School of Public Health, but will be starting NYCOM in the fall :) I'm south asian, but very atypical. I like for my place to be neat and would like roommates would would clean up after themselves and who don't smoke or have pets ( I have allergies :( , but little fish would be ok). I found a few places in Hicksville and Glen Cove. One of the places is a 3 bedroom (I think like $750 each). Send me a mes. if you like.
Take Care
Jaz

DPickholtz

06-06-2005, 06:58 PM

Hello fellow classmates! This posting may be slightly off topic, but I have a few questions about NYCOM and information they have/have not been sending to you.

How do you get access to the Web Board?

Has anyone received any financial information from NYCOM?

Does anyone know where they will be living come August?

Hopefully someone can answer my questions - thanks in advance.

-Jamie
NYCOM Class of 2009

see posts # 151-3 below
it sould have been in the big envelope - if not call up and speak with Clare Jacobi
lots of different places - see the other thread on NYCOM housing

-me

DPickholtz

06-06-2005, 07:06 PM

Okay boys and girls...here it is.....

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=204974

Dies Irae

06-08-2005, 02:17 PM

Has anyone here applied for the new PBL route?

tedd1212

06-08-2005, 09:24 PM

Has anyone here applied for the new PBL route?

I did. haven't heard anything yet.

also, i checked the NYCOM website and found a new page:
http://iris.nyit.edu/nycom/Orientation_2005.htm
it has some stuff about orientation and an email address to get housing info.

Thanks to DPickholtz for the housing info.

t

ps. i'm getting pretty excitedd. i know there was talk of getting together in the city sometime. did i miss it? is anyone interested in doing it?

Dies Irae

06-08-2005, 10:18 PM

ps. i'm getting pretty excitedd. i know there was talk of getting together in the city sometime. did i miss it? is anyone interested in doing it?

I saw that post too, but it died off a while back. It might have happened already--although I would be interested in meeting up if it is going to happen again. :)

Ifellinapothole

06-09-2005, 08:01 AM

Does anybody have a residency match list for NYCOM?

thanks

mblum151

06-09-2005, 08:13 AM

I saw that post too, but it died off a while back. It might have happened already--although I would be interested in meeting up if it is going to happen again. :)

We already had a meet up a few months ago. It'd be really fun to have another one this summer. Do you want to organize it?

Melissa

beastmaster

06-09-2005, 08:17 AM

We already had a meet up a few months ago. It'd be really fun to have another one this summer. Do you want to organize it?

Melissa

What did you guys do in the first meet-up? How many showed?

mblum151

06-09-2005, 08:26 AM

What did you guys do in the first meet-up? How many showed?

We met at a bar on the lower east side. I think 12 people showed up. It was really nice to meet our future classmates. If there's enough interest, we should plan something in the summer, so all the people who just graduated from College can attend.

Cthulu

06-09-2005, 09:16 AM

Yeah sounds like a great idea. I got snowed out of the last one.

Dies Irae

06-09-2005, 10:53 AM

We already had a meet up a few months ago. It'd be really fun to have another one this summer. Do you want to organize it?

Melissa

Sure, I would like to meet some of my fellow classmates, if there are others interested. Manhattan is perfect for me.

beastmaster

06-09-2005, 11:25 AM

We met at a bar on the lower east side. I think 12 people showed up. It was really nice to meet our future classmates. If there's enough interest, we should plan something in the summer, so all the people who just graduated from College can attend.
I work on the upper east side so I was just a train ride away. I remember posting on that thread but no one ever got back to me or anything, and I hadn't seen any further efforts to make it a go (in order to contact the supposed 'master organizer'). Need to make these things more coordinated, folks!!

Dies Irae

06-09-2005, 11:27 AM

Wait, who is the "master organizer?" :confused:

mblum151

06-09-2005, 11:28 AM

I work on the upper east side so I was just a train ride away. I remember posting on that thread but no one ever got back to me or anything, and I hadn't seen any further efforts to make it a go (in order to contact the supposed 'master organizer'). Need to make these things more coordinated, folks!!

Let's get together on Friday, July 8th at 8pm at Von. It's on 3 Bleeker Street between Bowrey and Lafayette. Take the 6 at Bleecker St; F, V at Broadway-Lafayette. If you want to come, send me an email, and I'll send out a mass email, mblum151@yahoo.com, when the date approaches.

Melissa

beastmaster

06-09-2005, 11:33 AM

Let's get together on Friday, July 8th at 8pm at Von. It's on 3 Bleeker Street between Bowrey and Lafayette. Take the 6 at Bleecker St; F, V at Broadway-Lafayette. If you want to come, send me an email, and I'll send out a mass email, mblum151@yahoo.com, when the date approaches.

Melissa

Now that's more like it. Straight to the point, with a date, time, directions, instructions, and contact. I knew there was a master organizer! I can't imagine 12 people just spit-balling potential locations and all-satisfying time arrangements.

Dies Irae

06-09-2005, 11:40 AM

jaz912

06-09-2005, 03:43 PM

Let's get together on Friday, July 8th at 8pm at Von. It's on 3 Bleeker Street between Bowrey and Lafayette. Take the 6 at Bleecker St; F, V at Broadway-Lafayette. If you want to come, send me an email, and I'll send out a mass email, mblum151@yahoo.com, when the date approaches.

Melissa

I would have loved to come meet up with you guys. i'm new to this whole sdn thing. but, unfortunately i will be in canada that weekend :(

GqDocStar

06-09-2005, 09:30 PM

good buddy of mine got a call from nycom yesterday in the early morning telling him he got in...he was a special case though whom they knew had to make serious decisions about living and family ect so they knew he needed to know asap of any decisions...he says they told him he wont get his letter for 2 weeks probably. the scary thing is that me and him interviewed on the same day so ...it freaks me out to know that they have looked at my application/file most likely and he got in. we went to same undergrad too...i hope they didnt look at us and decide to take him over me...we are both south asian decent same under grad...same interview day...lets hope they take two of a kind... :scared:

Dies Irae

06-09-2005, 10:11 PM

...it freaks me out to know that they have looked at my application/file most likely and he got in. we went to same undergrad too...i hope they didnt look at us and decide to take him over me...we are both south asian decent same under grad...same interview day...lets hope they take two of a kind... :scared:

What? You mean they're still filling racial quotas in their admitance decisions? :eek:

Have you heard from any other schools? At this point, I would take any acceptance offered to me.

I'm from USB too, just graduated this year, and I know two others from USB that recieved interviews from NYCOM. I applied early and my stats were very competative, so I guess I was lucky. I'm not sure how many seats they have left, but I wish the best of luck to all of you. If you all make it in, we can start a Stony Brook posse. :meanie:

GqDocStar

06-09-2005, 10:34 PM

uhh..by south asian i refer to indian decent...not south EAST asian/pacific islander....us brownies are definately not an underrepresented minority in medicine thats for sure...im pretty competetive but applied past deadlines..nycom requested my application still be sent to them..i interviewed 4/21...who knows...i still got hope.

djquick83

06-10-2005, 11:07 AM

Now that's more like it. Straight to the point, with a date, time, directions, instructions, and contact. I knew there was a master organizer! I can't imagine 12 people just spit-balling potential locations and all-satisfying time arrangements.

BTW, I was the one who posted it, not once but twice in both forums(osteo and pre-osteo). If u couldnt read the post and understand the directions, u shouldnt be attending any type of grad school. Just my .02 :rolleyes:

alekamax

06-11-2005, 09:38 AM

Has anyone heard from NYCOM about their financial aid reports? I just got my bill for the fall semester and not a word about whether or not I'll have any financial aid (ie. stafford).

djquick83

06-11-2005, 11:03 AM

Has anyone heard from NYCOM about their financial aid reports? I just got my bill for the fall semester and not a word about whether or not I'll have any financial aid (ie. stafford).

Same here. I like how it says, to pay the bull in full ($16,000), please charge my Visa, MC, Amex, and Discover. Yea, and my daddy is Bill Gates. :eek:

Dies Irae

06-11-2005, 11:42 AM

Same here. I like how it says, to pay the bull in full ($16,000), please charge my Visa, MC, Amex, and Discover. Yea, and my daddy is Bill Gates. :eek:

:scared: :scared: :scared:

How many people do they expect to be able to just fork over the full tuition?

Definately fill out your FAFSFA for the Stafford loans and the application for TAP if your eligible, while you wait for them to send you finanical aid info. I've been trying to called the FA office, but I keep getting a machine. (tried twice this week)

misyel

06-11-2005, 12:53 PM

:scared: :scared: :scared:

How many people do they expect to be able to just fork over the full tuition?

Definately fill out your FAFSFA for the Stafford loans and the application for TAP if your eligible, while you wait for them to send you finanical aid info. I've been trying to called the FA office, but I keep getting a machine. (tried twice this week)

Don't worry guys, just apply for FAFSA, and sign your promissory notes when prompted and you'll eventually hear from them. They usually deal with the first years last. Just don't mind the bill that keeps popping up. I think it's just because the registrar's office and the financial aid office don't communicate well with each other.

djquick83

06-11-2005, 04:14 PM

Don't worry guys, just apply for FAFSA, and sign your promissory notes when prompted and you'll eventually hear from them. They usually deal with the first years last. Just don't mind the bill that keeps popping up. I think it's just because the registrar's office and the financial aid office don't communicate well with each other.

I already submitted all the info for financial aid, like the loan from Citibank. I signed the promissary note as well. They said if there was a problem, they would notify me. They said I have done everything I was supposed to and I shouldnt worry. Then again, I am receiving a bill for 16,000 with no mention of loans or anything being applied. Seriously, who sends the letters out ? :confused: Seems like there is so much miscommunication between the school and the students.

Peon9985

06-11-2005, 06:44 PM

NYCDawg81

06-11-2005, 06:44 PM

The last post stated that the person signed their promissory note already...Aren't we suppose to sign it after we get an award letter? I went onto that website and it said only to sign it post reception of the award letter...whats the deal with that? :confused:

misyel

06-11-2005, 09:15 PM

Yeah I just got my bill.. soo much with no financial aid.. Hey question.. I read in the letter that there was a 50% health insurance charge included.. What if you already have private insurance. How do I get the insurance charge off this bill?

Unfortunately, you can only be waived off the school health insurance if:
1) your parents cover you or
2) your spouse covers you

During the orientation week, you will be given a form to fill out which waives you out of the NYCOM health insurance. Our insurance isn't that bad; my only complaint is that my eye exam is covered, but it doesn't cover a new pair of glasses or contacts.

djquick83

06-11-2005, 11:04 PM

Dies Irae

06-11-2005, 11:33 PM

Dont u guys see the irony in future physicians becomin sick ? I say go without it for the next 4 yrs til u start residency. Put better use to the 4K than for health insurance, unless u have some serious illness or otherwise. Common flu really shouldnt qualify for health insurance. Take vitamin C. Much cheaper for u and tasty too. :D :p

I'm not sure that we are allowed to go without health insurance. The form does not indicate anywhere that we can opt out of all coverage. I've never gone to a doctor for the flu: a few bowls of chicken soup, and my immune system rips the influenza virus a new one! :meanie:

endAIDScom

06-12-2005, 10:14 AM

I got my bill today too- I'm going to call and ask if I can pay in pennies.

The FA office told me months ago that T.H.E. was an ok lender to use, but are now telling me that I need to talk to the director of
FA about getting my promisory note certified. I always get this woman on the phone who wont tell me I CANT use T.H.E., but acts like I don't trust her for picking my own lender.

As far as insurance, I'm excited. This is going to be the most comprehensive plan I've had in a long time. Time to get that appendix out finally. :rolleyes:

djquick83

06-12-2005, 10:38 AM

I'm not sure that we are allowed to go without health insurance. The form does not indicate anywhere that we can opt out of all coverage. I've never gone to a doctor for the flu: a few bowls of chicken soup, and my immune system rips the influenza virus a new one! :meanie:

Im pretty sure they cant force u to pay for something u dont want. There is another type of insurance that covers us as med students during clinical rotations in case we mess up, which im sure every student has to have. But if they are so insistent on me having health benefits, let them pay for it with the 32K a year I am paying already. In case u guys dont know, medicaid is free for all ppl who cant afford it. That means us students and of course poor ppl all over America. Hell, thats what our taxes go towards every year. Might as well use it.

Dies Irae

06-12-2005, 11:04 AM

Im pretty sure they cant force u to pay for something u dont want. There is another type of insurance that covers us as med students during clinical rotations in case we mess up, which im sure every student has to have. But if they are so insistent on me having health benefits, let them pay for it with the 32K a year I am paying already. In case u guys dont know, medicaid is free for all ppl who cant afford it. That means us students and of course poor ppl all over America. Hell, thats what our taxes go towards every year. Might as well use it.

True, medicaid is for poor people, and medical students are broke. But bear in mind that we are eligible for loans to cover all our expenses, and most of us will be making six figures ten years from now. On the other hand, many lowest income bracket people have no options, and ten years from now, they will be just as poor or worse. Of course there are also many who take advantage of the system, but still I wouldn't feel right about being on medicaid. Food stamps...maybe...but not medicaid.

misyel

06-12-2005, 11:07 AM

Im pretty sure they cant force u to pay for something u dont want. There is another type of insurance that covers us as med students during clinical rotations in case we mess up, which im sure every student has to have. But if they are so insistent on me having health benefits, let them pay for it with the 32K a year I am paying already. In case u guys dont know, medicaid is free for all ppl who cant afford it. That means us students and of course poor ppl all over America. Hell, thats what our taxes go towards every year. Might as well use it.

If you can't show proof that you are covered by your parents or spouse, they automatically charge it to your account, and you'd have to sign part of your financial aid off to them before you can pick up your refund check. (If you manage to pull it off, let me know, maybe I can also apply for foodstamps!)

beastmaster

06-12-2005, 12:21 PM

If you can't show proof that you are covered by your parents or spouse, they automatically charge it to your account, and you'd have to sign part of your financial aid off to them before you can pick up your refund check. (If you manage to pull it off, let me know, maybe I can also apply for foodstamps!)

Who at nycom would be the best person to call to work out my payment strategy. I will try opting out of the insurance and I'd need the updated tuition cost.

endAIDScom

06-12-2005, 05:30 PM

True, medicaid is for poor people, and medical students are broke. But bear in mind that we are eligible for loans to cover all our expenses, and most of us will be making six figures ten years from now. On the other hand, many lowest income bracket people have no options, and ten years from now, they will be just as poor or worse. Of course there are also many who take advantage of the system, but still I wouldn't feel right about being on medicaid. Food stamps...maybe...but not medicaid.

I'm working on an advocacy campaign around mediciaid and HIV right now and I have to agree with DiesIrae. Medicaid is going bankrupt in a lot of states right now, and getting on the rolls probably means a cut in services for someone somewhere, who probably doesn't have a 30k stafford loan to help pay for the meds it doesn't cover. But there's no way they are going to let you do it anyway. Does anyone know (just out of curiosity) if the insurance agency is affiliated with NYCOM's clinical system?

Peon9985

06-12-2005, 08:36 PM

If you can't show proof that you are covered by your parents or spouse, they automatically charge it to your account, and you'd have to sign part of your financial aid off to them before you can pick up your refund check. (If you manage to pull it off, let me know, maybe I can also apply for foodstamps!)

Well currently I have 1199 insurance and will continue to have it when I'm attending nycom.. so if I show them proof now will they take me off the school's insurance.. Besides for all you residence of NY.. you can go on a variety of free health care plans... I think we are being forced into something that need not be.

djquick83

06-13-2005, 06:25 AM

Well currently I have 1199 insurance and will continue to have it when I'm attending nycom.. so if I show them proof now will they take me off the school's insurance.. Besides for all you residence of NY.. you can go on a variety of free health care plans... I think we are being forced into something that need not be.

Thats just BS. You cant force ppl and say well if u dont have it, then use ours. Thats a persons choice to either choose what coverage they want, or if they even want any coverage at all. I was just using Medicaid as an example. Im sure there are tons of free, or low cost programs out there in comparison to those offered by the school. But quite honestly, did u guys really think that the 4K they collect goes straight to the insurance company for coverage? I would say like maybe at most, $1,000 and the rest is in NYCOMs piggy bank. Thats the only reason I can think of for them pushing so much for their students to get it. If u think about it, most employees, like my mom who works for board of ed deducts $35 a paycheck for coverage for a family of 3. Thats about $700. Where they get $4K is beyong me, unless a person goes out and buys their own personal coverage. In the end, does it really matter. Prob. not.We are buying our degree for the most part and it pays for itself in the long run. Its just a matter of the principal of it all.

misyel

06-13-2005, 08:46 AM

Thats just BS. You cant force ppl and say well if u dont have it, then use ours. Thats a persons choice to either choose what coverage they want, or if they even want any coverage at all. I was just using Medicaid as an example. Im sure there are tons of free, or low cost programs out there in comparison to those offered by the school. But quite honestly, did u guys really think that the 4K they collect goes straight to the insurance company for coverage? I would say like maybe at most, $1,000 and the rest is in NYCOMs piggy bank. Thats the only reason I can think of for them pushing so much for their students to get it. If u think about it, most employees, like my mom who works for board of ed deducts $35 a paycheck for coverage for a family of 3. Thats about $700. Where they get $4K is beyong me, unless a person goes out and buys their own personal coverage. In the end, does it really matter. Prob. not.We are buying our degree for the most part and it pays for itself in the long run. Its just a matter of the principal of it all.

I agree. With other schools, you are given the option to choose your own insurance program, but NYCOM is one of I believe three schools where it's mandatory for you to use their insurance if you aren't covered by your parents or spouse. I guess insuring a bulk amount of students eventually leads to cheaper rates (believe me, our insurance isn't bad), and I'm sure NYCOM gets some sort of %age back for every person enrolled in that health insurance policy.

Dies Irae

06-13-2005, 11:41 AM

Thats just BS. You cant force ppl and say well if u dont have it, then use ours. Thats a persons choice to either choose what coverage they want, or if they even want any coverage at all. I was just using Medicaid as an example. Im sure there are tons of free, or low cost programs out there in comparison to those offered by the school. But quite honestly, did u guys really think that the 4K they collect goes straight to the insurance company for coverage? I would say like maybe at most, $1,000 and the rest is in NYCOMs piggy bank. Thats the only reason I can think of for them pushing so much for their students to get it. If u think about it, most employees, like my mom who works for board of ed deducts $35 a paycheck for coverage for a family of 3. Thats about $700. Where they get $4K is beyong me, unless a person goes out and buys their own personal coverage. In the end, does it really matter. Prob. not.We are buying our degree for the most part and it pays for itself in the long run. Its just a matter of the principal of it all.

Your right about that. I come from a middle-lower-middle class family and no one in my houshold has ever been on a health insurance plan worth $4000. If NYCOM is skimming off the top, then I have no clue where all that money would go, since there seems to be concern that they are having finanical issues. It seems enrolling at NYCOM is also agreeing to go by their health insurance policy. I also think its unfair to those of us who want a cheaper plan and those of us who like to live on the edge and not have any medical insurance at all. But I guess it is safe for them to presume that paying back our 200k loans in the future will not be that much of a strain on our future salaries. :scared:

One thing I'm sure of is that if I'm going to have to pay for NYCOM health insurance, I'm going to get my f'ing money's worth! I'm getting a full physical every two weeks with blood tests + any and every sort of checkup that the plan covers, even if its a mammogram-hell, i'll even get a colonoscopy. :laugh:

misyel

06-13-2005, 08:05 PM

Your right about that. I come from a middle-lower-middle class family and no one in my houshold has ever been on a health insurance plan worth $4000. If NYCOM is skimming off the top, then I have no clue where all that money would go, since there seems to be concern that they are having finanical issues. It seems enrolling at NYCOM is also agreeing to go by their health insurance policy. I also think its unfair to those of us who want a cheaper plan and those of us who like to live on the edge and not have any medical insurance at all. But I guess it is safe for them to presume that paying back our 200k loans in the future will not be that much of a strain on our future salaries. :scared:

One thing I'm sure of is that if I'm going to have to pay for NYCOM health insurance, I'm going to get my f'ing money's worth! I'm getting a full physical every two weeks with blood tests + any and every sort of checkup that the plan covers, even if its a mammogram-hell, i'll even get a colonoscopy. :laugh:

If it's any consolation, students can go to the NYCOM clinic anytime and as often as they want without having to pay anything for OMM treatment, or any primary care stuff for that matter.

nycom2009

06-13-2005, 09:08 PM

Guys (especially Djquick83 and Dies Irae),

I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that your comments are just venting frustration, not the way you actually see the situation. If it is in fact how you view this situation, I think you all need to do a little research on the true costs of quality health insurance before orientation.

I understand the frustration with the price tag for the insurance, especially as the abstract idea of the cost of medical education and the associated living expenses are becoming a reality. I just sent new landlord the security deposit for my apartment, and even though it was less than a third of the cost of the health insurance, it still stung.

What are all these comments about NYCOM skimming money from the health care fees? Do you really not understand how much health insurance costs? In any case, it is irresponsible to make such accusations about our school. I highly doubt that NYCOM is making any money off this requirement; especially with all the time and personnel they need to invest in negotiating for this coverage. Quality health insurance costs a lot. If you haven’t learned it by now, you better pick up on it quickly.

In any case, even though the health insurance seems expensive (by the way, its less than $4k, more like $3500 for both Medical and Dental, Life and Disability insurance adds another $126 according to packet I received on my interview day), for a quality plan, it really is quite moderate.

Djquick83, you noted that your mother has approximately $700 deducted from her paycheck each year for health insurance. She should count herself incredibly lucky that her personal contribution is that low (especially for a family plan), for the true cost of that policy is probably closer to 10 times that amount. (I am assuming that her position is covered by a union or collective bargaining agreement, for there are very few non-union environments where the personal or family contributions for health care premiums are that low.) Ask her to drop by her Human Resources office and ask about the total cost of the policy that covers her family – the cost of the NYCOM plan won’t seem so bad after all.

Dies Irae, almost any quality health insurance policy that covers a family will cost more than $4000 a year. The total cost for my parent’s PPO plan (it also covers my sister) is over $10000 a year (it also includes dental insurance). And this doesn’t even cover everything. There is still a $500/person/year deductible for medical care.

My boyfriend has a PPO insurance plan. His policy costs over $5000 a year, of which he contributes a little less than $2000. The personal contributions for my policy are significantly lower, but my employer still contributed almost $3000 last year for my insurance policy (and that was for an HMO). The SO’s policy costs a bit more than average for a single employee, but he works for a smaller company that has a lot of older workers (both factors add to the cost of his policy).

Your mom’s personal contributions for her health plan are so low because her employer covers a significant portion of the cost for each policy. Whether this is required as part of a union contract or not, most employers pay for 50% or more of a premium policy (at least for the covered employee – family plans may have a greater employee contribution).
Most employees don’t understand the true cost of their health insurance because they only see the contribution that is taken out of their paycheck. Insurance companies require that employers cover the majority of a health plan’s cost in order to make the plan attractive for all employees, not just the employees with health issues. That way they cover employees with a wide range of health needs, not just the individuals who know they will need insurance for expensive medical problems. Otherwise, young, relatively healthy employees would sign up for a high deductible policy or just skip the company plan and just sign up for a lower cost individual plan.

Now that we’re on the subject of the individual plans, they may seem a great idea for a young healthy individual, but you really need to look at them carefully before you enroll. If you decide on an individual plan, you wouldn’t have the same rights as if you were covered by a group plan. Most of the time you have to submit your medical records to the company for review and you are not guaranteed a policy. Generally, only very healthy people are accepted into those plans (unless there are state laws requiring they accept all that apply). If you have any pre-existing medical conditions (even conditions from long ago that have since resolved), you may be forced to pay a higher premium or not have coverage for those conditions at all (for at least the first year). And if you apply for a policy and are denied, good luck finding another. Insurance companies will ask if you have ever been denied a policy or had a policy canceled and if you check that “yes” box, it is a huge red flag.

In some cases, if you really are healthy, a low-cost plan may not be a bad option if you are looking to pay a lower monthly premium. You just have to understand that to get that lower rate, you’re either giving up coverage for certain things (prescription coverage is often limited), have a lower lifetime limit, or a higher deductible. As students, we’re all trying to save money. That low-cost individual plan may seem like a great way to do that. But as students, we don’t have a lot of money lying around. If you do need medical care, how do you plan to pay for the $1000+ deductible, or the out-of-pocket costs for procedures that are not covered? God forbid you get seriously hurt and have an extended hospital stay. The policies with a $100,000 limit may seem like a bargain now, but that limit can be reached by less than one month in the hospital. Then what are you going to do?

Even if your problems don’t require a hospital stay, the costs for your care can quickly add up. You don’t want to be in a situation where you need to leave school in order to pay for your medical bills.

Back to the cost of the NYCOM plan, you’re probably asking, “My employer pays for part of my health care premium, why doesn’t NYCOM contribute to the cost for the required policy?” Unfortunately, I don’t have an answer for that. My guess is that as it is not required to contribute to the cost of the policy, it won’t (think about it, even if you had coverage under a spouse or parent’s plan, your tuition money would be paying for other people’s premiums). There are other schools where students are automatically covered under a school policy and the cost is included in the tuition, but these schools tend to be large universities that have their own health services.

It may seem like it is unfair that students are required take the school’s coverage unless they can prove they are covered by another policy, but with this requirement, NYCOM is actually doing you a favor. With this requirement, the school can negotiate for a policy with better coverage. United HealthCare is a major medical insurance company. Most doctors in my area take United insurance. Have you looked what this plan provides? The annual deductible is limited to $250/person ($500/family) with an out-of-pocket maximum of $500/person ($1500/family). It was a little confusing to read, but I think there may actually be no deductible for in-network care. And as a PPO plan, you have the freedom to choose your provider and not have to deal with the hassles of an HMO. (Just compare that to the SOMA plan – especially the limits on covered services.) If you rarely use your insurance, you may think its overkill, but believe me, you never know when you’ll need it. I have a friend who was riding a motor scooter, hit some gravel and ended up underneath the scooter. She broke her elbow and it required over $30,000 in medical care to treat. Just one misplaced step during an afternoon football game and you could end up with thousands in medical bills.

Even if you could find a comparable plan, it would probably cost more than this one does. Other schools that do allow students to buy their own health insurance policies generally require that they provides the same coverage as the school policy. Where are you going to find a plan that provides the same benefits and would be available to all students? Face it, not all of our classmates are healthy 23-year olds. They’re not all going to qualify for the low-cost individual policies. If United was worried that only those students were going to sign up for the school plan, they wouldn’t offer the coverage we have. Besides, if we did all choose individual policies do you know how much time it would take verify that all 1200 students have adequate insurance? Who really wants NYCOM to have to hire more personnel just to do that?

Djquick83, your thoughts of just getting Medicaid – it probably won’t work. Federal welfare and other assistance programs do not provide assistance for students unless they would otherwise be eligible for the programs (not having an income is not enough). However, if you have children, they may be eligible if your income and assets are below a certain threshold. Here is the website if you wish to check it out. http://www.cms.hhs.gov/medicaid/eligibility/default.asp . State plans are another story. As long as the states want to pay for it themselves, the federal government says, “Go ahead.” You may have more luck there with the plans that Peon9985 suggested.

nycom2009

06-13-2005, 09:09 PM

Dies Irae

06-13-2005, 11:44 PM

Dies Irae, I hope your comment of “living on the edge” with no health insurance is in jest, because going without insurance when it is offered and feasible to enroll in is just plain irresponsible. Once you start working and see the effect that the “voluntarily uninsured” take on the health care system when they need significant medical care, you’ll change your tune.

Okay, this has become a lot longer than I intended, but I hope you get my message. Stop complaining about the cost of the NYCOM policy. You’re getting a fair deal.

I have a question: who are you?

-I mean to be prompted to such an overwhelming and patronizing response just because two students are taken back by the cost of NYCOM's insurance plan?

I would understand if you worked for NYCOM and had an administrative role in issuing the health insurance policy, but if you're a student, then what is your issue with a few complaints, misinformed or not, from some students who havent even mat. yet? I would think that any reasonable person wouldn't take my comments about "living on the edge" or NYCOM "skimming off the top" seriously.

Venting some anger and cracking a few jokes doesn't mean I am flaming the school. I am actually very excited to start school and apprieciative of my acceptance. I am sorry if it seems that I am getting frustrated without good reason, but just recently, all the new students to NYCOM recieved the tuition bill without having recieved any statements about our anticipated Stafford loans.

You are right that we (or at least I) are venting frustration. I just graduated from a state school, paying about 8000/semester for tuition, and paying double the amount going into medical school while I still owe a good 50k in loans is really something to get used to. I thank you for taking the time to elaborate on how exactly the plan works, but you do not need to paint me as an immature kid in need of a reprimand based upon two posts I made on an SDN forum, nor do you need to outline the necessity of health insurance in such an condescending tone. Most of us are well aware of the costs involved should we come under a serious sickness or injury.

I am currently covered under my parents under a group plan, but my plan is not "equivalent" to NYCOM's, so I will have to go on that plan when I start school. Yes, the coverage is not as extensive as NYCOM's plan, but with my family, it has always been trying to strike a balance between adequate coverage and finances. NYCOM has a very extensive plan compared to what I have now, but also more expensive. The reason that we complain is that we dont really have a choice in the matter. People who can opt out have coverage equal or better than NYCOM's plan and wouldn't complain.

djquick83

06-14-2005, 08:55 AM

I have a question: who are you?

-I mean to be prompted to such an overwhelming and patronizing response just because two students are taken back by the cost of NYCOM's insurance plan?

I would understand if you worked for NYCOM and had an administrative role in issuing the health insurance policy, but if you're a student, then what is your issue with a few complaints, misinformed or not, from some students who havent even mat. yet? I would think that any reasonable person wouldn't take my comments about "living on the edge" or NYCOM "skimming off the top" seriously.

Venting some anger and cracking a few jokes doesn't mean I am flaming the school. I am actually very excited to start school and apprieciative of my acceptance. I am sorry if it seems that I am getting frustrated without good reason, but just recently, all the new students to NYCOM recieved the tuition bill without having recieved any statements about our anticipated Stafford loans.

You are right that we (or at least I) are venting frustration. I just graduated from a state school, paying about 8000/semester for tuition, and paying double the amount going into medical school while I still owe a good 50k in loans is really something to get used to. I thank you for taking the time to elaborate on how exactly the plan works, but you do not need to paint me as an immature kid in need of a reprimand based upon two posts I made on an SDN forum, nor do you need to outline the necessity of health insurance in such an condescending tone. Most of us are well aware of the costs involved should we come under a serious sickness or injury.

I am currently covered under my parents under a group plan, but my plan is not "equivalent" to NYCOM's, so I will have to go on that plan when I start school. Yes, the coverage is not as extensive as NYCOM's plan, but with my family, it has always been trying to strike a balance between adequate coverage and finances. NYCOM has a very extensive plan compared to what I have now, but also more expensive. The reason that we complain is that we dont really have a choice in the matter. People who can opt out have coverage equal or better than NYCOM's plan and wouldn't complain.

For get it Dies Irae. Apparently we are bitching too much. Lets spend the 4K so we can have a years supply of amoxicillin and allegra D. :rolleyes: Im talkin to a few insurance companies now and once I get the rates, no more than lets say $500 a year, if even that, then whoever needs it, I will hook it up personally and get them the info out. Why spend 4k when u can do the same job with $500 bux, especially when the cost is an issue for us students. Im sure you could use that money in a lot better ways, like books, housing, food, cell phone bill, whatever. But I guess when u come from a family where money aint the issue, who cares right ? I will leave it at that.

djquick83

06-14-2005, 08:56 AM

If it's any consolation, students can go to the NYCOM clinic anytime and as often as they want without having to pay anything for OMM treatment, or any primary care stuff for that matter.

LOL. Like any of us will ever need OMM. :p :laugh:

Kry

06-14-2005, 09:05 AM

LOL. Like any of us will ever need OMM. :p :laugh:

It's great that you feel that way, because the waiting lists for OMM treatment are over a month long at the clinic.

djquick83

06-14-2005, 11:00 AM

It's great that you feel that way, because the waiting lists for OMM treatment are over a month long at the clinic.

I guess u didnt realize I was joking. Get it, a DO who refuses OMM. Its like a baseball player who refuses to play catch.

beastmaster

06-14-2005, 11:27 AM

I guess u didnt realize I was joking. Get it, a DO who refuses OMM. Its like a baseball player who refuses to play catch.

Realistically, wouldn't a better analogy be basketball players who don't shoot 3-pointers.

Dies Irae

06-14-2005, 01:23 PM

LOL. Like any of us will ever need OMM. :p :laugh:

I strained my back the other day when I was moving a couch. There is tight feeling just under my left shoulder. I could use some OMM right now! :love:

No, seriously.

Kry

06-14-2005, 01:40 PM

Get it, a DO who refuses OMM.

It wouldn't be the first time...

Kry

06-14-2005, 01:44 PM

Realistically, wouldn't a better analogy be basketball players who don't shoot 3-pointers.

I almost didn't realize who you were haha.

stoleyerscrubz

06-14-2005, 02:00 PM

I've never seen full medical insurance coverage under $3k in the NY metro area unless it was under a group plan. I'd be interested in the details.

Im talkin to a few insurance companies now and once I get the rates, no more than lets say $500 a year, if even that, then whoever needs it, I will hook it up personally and get them the info out.

beastmaster

06-14-2005, 04:10 PM

I almost didn't realize who you were haha.
I lurk in the shadows :horns:

Regarding insurance: I called Student Services today to discuss another issue, and they do not allow private insurance as a substitute for the United Healthcare one that is offered. Both medical and dental are mandatory -- price for dental is $300/year, the guy didn't remember exactly the price for medical but I remember it being several grand from the interview. The guy explained further that, for those who need it, waivers will be looked at during orientation and $ adjusted accordingly.

Peon9985

06-14-2005, 09:20 PM

Hmm I guess we're stuck with the NYCOM Health Insurance and Life Insurance... Anyhow does anyone know when we will get our palm pilots? Cause I heard from NYCOM graduates that we would be provided with one. But they don't recall when exactly. Does anyone here know?

Kry

06-15-2005, 09:12 AM

futdoc_09

06-15-2005, 10:18 AM

You won't be as excited and motivated a year from now. Be prepared to waste 100-120 hours of your life studying Dr Stepp's physiology packets which won't help you during your 2nd year (which is all systems pathophysiology) or during the boards. See the following threads:

Dr Stepp, NYCOM's Crappy Physiology Professor Extraordinaire (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=182649)

NYCOM- the school with ONLY an 80% 1st-time board pass rate (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=181853)

I know step 1 of the boards seems like a long ways away for you guys (and, frankly, for you gusy it is) but this time next year it will definately be on your mind and you will hate NYCOM for wasting your time on such low-yield Physiology.

Oh BTW, this Dr Stepp I talk about, he has a PhD in BIOCHEMISTRY yet teaches PHYSIOLOGY .

My advice to people who got accepted into NYCOM? If you were accepted into CCOM, PCOM, NOVA, UMDNJ-COM or to any US allopathic school, go there. They beat NYCOM.

But if NYCOM is the best you can do then prepare to waste 100+ hours of your life on 'Physiology' you probably won't even use (even for the boards).

For those of us who will be attending NYCOM in august, what do you recommend we do so we pass the step 1 in the first try?

DPickholtz

06-15-2005, 10:49 AM

during your 2nd year.

with our white coats

DPickholtz

06-15-2005, 10:55 AM

For those of us who will be attending NYCOM in august, what do you recommend we do so we pass the step 1 in the first try?

study
:meanie:

endAIDScom

06-15-2005, 10:59 AM

Dies Irae

06-15-2005, 12:28 PM

For those of us who will be attending NYCOM in august, what do you recommend we do so we pass the step 1 in the first try?

From what I've seen, this poster, medstudent3563, has a serious problem with "Dr. Stepp's" being a biochemistry Phd. rather than a physiology Phd., and teaching physiology. It sounds like he was one of the 20% who failed the boards on the first try. :laugh:

Most of it seems to be trolling, and I don't see many other who share his opinion, so I dont know how much credibility I can give it. As for the 80% board pass rate........ :scared:

Kry

06-15-2005, 03:44 PM

The orientation packet says we DO need to have a laptop.

Do you upper classmen use yours in class a lot?
If so what do you use it for?
I have a really nice desktop already and will be living 5 mintutes from school.
I'd rather wait until 3rd year (when I know I will need it) to buy one if possible.

You're not really going to be using a laptop much during the first year unless you are one of those people who uses em to type up lecture notes. Wait until you meet your big brother/sister during orientation week and see what they have to say in regards to buying laptops, books, and other miscellaneous crap.

PTOSIS

06-16-2005, 11:01 AM

for the people who are constantly bashing Dr.Stepp, you have no idea what u are talikng about. his notes are great. yes, they take time. but physiology is the most important class first year. you will be using these foundations your whole career. u will need them second year. where do u think the physio in pathophysiology is going to come from? they are not going to teach u pathophys, they will teach pathology. it is up to you to bridge the first year material with the second. i did not have to study physio for boards at all b/c of the class.

endAIDScom

06-16-2005, 11:26 AM

From what I've seen, this poster, medstudent3563, has a serious problem with "Dr. Stepp's" being a biochemistry Phd. rather than a physiology Phd., and teaching physiology. It sounds like he was one of the 20% who failed the boards on the first try. :laugh:

Most of it seems to be trolling, and I don't see many other who share his opinion, so I dont know how much credibility I can give it. As for the 80% board pass rate........ :scared:

Um, is anyone from NYCOM tempted to take Physiology somewhere else?
Unless there is a way to do that, I'm not going to stress about it. I'm sorry medstudent3563 had a rough time with Stepp, and I want to thank him/her for letting us know we need to for a study group early for physio. I dont think the cross discipline thing is a necessarily a conflict though. One of our anatomy proffessors is a palentologist who has a good publishing record on dinosaurs, but none that I could find on humans, and in spite of this, seems to be a favorite teacher during first year. Specialty matters more if you are learning research.

DPickholtz

06-16-2005, 08:40 PM

The orientation packet says we DO need to have a laptop.

Do you upper classmen use yours in class a lot?
If so what do you use it for?
I have a really nice desktop already and will be living 5 mintutes from school.
I'd rather wait until 3rd year (when I know I will need it) to buy one if possible.

you don't need a laptop.....

...if you have some sort of computer avliable to you...prefreably one with a high speed connection....

DPickholtz

06-16-2005, 08:51 PM

Um, is anyone from NYCOM tempted to take Physiology somewhere else?
Unless there is a way to do that, I'm not going to stress about it. I'm sorry medstudent3563 had a rough time with Stepp, and I want to thank him/her for letting us know we need to for a study group early for physio. I dont think the cross discipline thing is a necessarily a conflict though. One of our anatomy proffessors is a palentologist who has a good publishing record on dinosaurs, but none that I could find on humans, and in spite of this, seems to be a favorite teacher during first year. Specialty matters more if you are learning research.

Boys and Girls,
Bottom line: you are going to be doctors, act like it.

stop being babies and always crying....even IF step were a horrible teacher (he isn't)
if you know the material then you'll pass the test
his questions at times may seem unfair, but tough SH*&, life isn't fair, none of us will ever get 100% on all tests, work your hardest to know the material regardless of the teacher, regardless of the test. ESPECIALLY in this case - TO BE A DOCTOR YOU MUST KNOW PHYSIOLOGY (or read PTOSIS below) - you need to know how things work to understand whats going on when they stop working.
I swear, if you people (include yourself only if applicable) spent all the time that you do complaining and wasting time into studying then you average and the class average would have been much higher (and for the latter I personally thank you for keeping it low :p ).

time to grow up people and stop expecting everything to be handed to you as baby food.

okay my diatribe is done for the night, next post I'll be back to my old scarcastic self....

Dies Irae

06-16-2005, 09:53 PM

jaz912

06-17-2005, 12:13 PM

Boys and Girls,
Bottom line: you are going to be doctors, act like it.

stop being babies and always crying....even IF step were a horrible teacher (he isn't)
if you know the material then you'll pass the test
his questions at times may seem unfair, but tough SH*&, life isn't fair, none of us will ever get 100% on all tests, work your hardest to know the material regardless of the teacher, regardless of the test. ESPECIALLY in this case - TO BE A DOCTOR YOU MUST KNOW PHYSIOLOGY (or read PTOSIS below) - you need to know how things work to understand whats going on when they stop working.
I swear, if you people (include yourself only if applicable) spent all the time that you do complaining and wasting time into studying then you average and the class average would have been much higher (and for the latter I personally thank you for keeping it low :p ).

time to grow up people and stop expecting everything to be handed to you as baby food.

okay my diatribe is done for the night, next post I'll be back to my old scarcastic self....

Finally someone said something sensible!

djquick83

06-17-2005, 01:37 PM

OK, agreed! No more complaining about Health Insurance, physiology, or the 80% pass rate...back to the finanical aid issue:

I'm going there next week so I can bug the financial aid office about my student loans...anyone with me? :laugh:

Um...er...this is a bit embarrassing, but where exactly IS the financial aid office? :confused:

Same place where u had your interview. Also, spoke with the woman about her little bill she sent to my house in the amount of 16K. She said dont worry about it, financial aid hasnt been applied yet. They are in the process of doing it now.

DO2B802

06-17-2005, 04:16 PM

i went to the financial aid office today to hand in the documents and the guy there said they arent processing first year students fin. aid for another couple of weeks...

marlow

06-17-2005, 05:14 PM

I didn't have time to read through this massive post, but for all those complainers out there (i.e., physio is so hard, the 100 or so packets of physio is such a waste of time, anatomy is horrible, this professor sucked, biochem is such a drag, blah blah blah) good luck to you next year because it doesn't get any easier. You will have double the information to learn in less time without the help of faculty on campus.

I can't help but ask why NYCOM accepts 250+ kids. Wait, don't answer that. It's because the smell of cash is all too sweet. All 250+ may want to "help people," but NOT all 250+ are qualified to gain admission. These students become the stragglers that whine, complain and make the rest of NYCOM's well qualified and intelligent students look like idiots. (This is a general statement.)

It should be obvious by now that medical school is not easy. All 250+ of you will be able to memorize old TQ's and cram facts. Unfortunately, there's more to that to becoming a physician. If you work hard and have the ability to reason, make correlations, and think abstractly, you'll be okay. There's nothing you can do now to change your learning style and ability. Go and make the most out of your summer instead.

misyel

06-17-2005, 05:52 PM

misyel

06-17-2005, 06:00 PM

i went to the financial aid office today to hand in the documents and the guy there said they arent processing first year students fin. aid for another couple of weeks...

Aiyah... maybe if you guys stop bothering them with the same questions over and over, they'll actually have time to work on processing your financial aid! :p

Just to reiterate: the financial office and the registrar's office at NYCOM don't communicate (NYCOM's also bad at filing, but that's another story...) Don't worry about the tuition bills, because that will all be taken cared of as soon as your financial aid awards are processed (which will take a while because first years are their last priority, since you start school the latest among the four years).

Dies Irae

06-17-2005, 06:17 PM

Aiyah... maybe if you guys stop bothering them with the same questions over and over, they'll actually have time to work on processing your financial aid! :p

Just to reiterate: the financial office and the registrar's office at NYCOM don't communicate (NYCOM's also bad at filing, but that's another story...) Don't worry about the tuition bills, because that will all be taken cared of as soon as your financial aid awards are processed (which will take a while because first years are their last priority, since you start school the latest among the four years).

But isn't the deadline to pay the tuition bill in August?

DO2B802

06-17-2005, 06:30 PM

Aiyah... maybe if you guys stop bothering them with the same questions over and over, they'll actually have time to work on processing your financial aid! :p

Just to reiterate: the financial office and the registrar's office at NYCOM don't communicate (NYCOM's also bad at filing, but that's another story...) Don't worry about the tuition bills, because that will all be taken cared of as soon as your financial aid awards are processed (which will take a while because first years are their last priority, since you start school the latest among the four years).

i didnt go there to bother them with any questions, i simply said that i went to nycom to hand in my papers since i live 15 min away. i wrote this in a post to give all you worried ppl the info that the fin. aid for first yr students wont be processed for a while.

misyel

06-17-2005, 08:45 PM

But isn't the deadline to pay the tuition bill in August?

Yes, and your financial aid kicks in before the deadline. Besides, the registrar's office doesn't charge you interest for unpaid balances if you use your financial aid awards to pay for your tuition.

Dies Irae

06-17-2005, 08:48 PM

Yes, and your financial aid kicks in before the deadline. Besides, the registrar's office doesn't charge you interest for unpaid balances if you use your financial aid awards to pay for your tuition.

That's good to know. But what about private loans? How soon should I go on over to the office to sign a Master Prom. for those? ASAP? I'm gone! :D

misyel

06-17-2005, 09:03 PM

i didnt go there to bother them with any questions, i simply said that i went to nycom to hand in my papers since i live 15 min away. i wrote this in a post to give all you worried ppl the info that the fin. aid for first yr students wont be processed for a while.

Now, now, no need to get defensive. I only replied to yours because it was the most recent entry. It's not meant to be taken personally.

Take home message: don't worry about the bill, books or anything else during the summer. Enjoy what is left of it, because it's the last real summer of your life. Also, always remember, there are others who would like to have the "problems" you're all having right now.

Ok, I think we've beaten this poor horse beyond death. On to the next topic...

Dies Irae

06-17-2005, 09:10 PM

Now, now, no need to get defensive. I only replied to yours because it was the most recent entry. It's not meant to be taken personally.

Take home message: don't worry about the bill, books or anything else during the summer. Enjoy what is left of it, because it's the last real summer of your life. Also, always remember, there are others who would like to have the "problems" you're all having right now.

Ok, I think we've beaten this poor horse beyond death. On to the next topic...

..Dead horses... So, do you think assault plays a large factor in the current US equine mortality rates?

seacatch

06-17-2005, 09:49 PM

Question for Misyel...
About summers - I know we get the summer off between MS1 & MS2. Do we also have off between MS2 & MS3? When do 3rd year rotations begin?

Just thinking ahead.
Thanks

tedd1212

06-17-2005, 10:46 PM

That's good to know. But what about private loans? How soon should I go on over to the office to sign a Master Prom. for those? ASAP? I'm gone! :D

i'm a bit slow with this and am hoping that someone can help a brother out. if school costs $36k and we get $40k from our loans, how are we suppose to pay rent and eat. Is there another load step that i am missing? if someone could answer this for me it would be great cause i really want to get by it so i can so play in the sun for the next month or 2

t

ps for laptop buyers: my dell harddrive crashed on me this morning. don't say i didn't tell you so.

misyel

06-18-2005, 06:31 AM

Question for Misyel...
About summers - I know we get the summer off between MS1 & MS2. Do we also have off between MS2 & MS3? When do 3rd year rotations begin?

Just thinking ahead.
Thanks

After you start medical school, you pretty much only have the summer between MSI and MSII as your summer off -- for the rest of your life! LoL Ok, don't let me scare you. After your MSII school year, you would have a few weeks to study for the boards, and then rotations being on July 1st.

DPickholtz

06-19-2005, 05:13 AM

OK, agreed! No more complaining about Health Insurance, physiology, or the 80% pass rate...back to the finanical aid issue:

I'm going there next week so I can bug the financial aid office about my student loans...anyone with me? :laugh:

Um...er...this is a bit embarrassing, but where exactly IS the financial aid office? :confused:

Me too,

You need to speak with Clare Jacobi,and next week she will only be there on monday.

good luck

DPickholtz

06-19-2005, 05:18 AM

Please, stop spreading rumors that Dr. Stepp doesn't have a Physio PhD degree, because he does! He is one of the sweetest, most approachable and helpful people on campus. I absolutely loved his notes, and his diagrams are the best! It's the best review tool -- if you can explain his diagrams and figures, then it means you understand what is important in the lectures. His notes are very detailed because Physiology is a complicated subject.

michelle is right kids.

endAIDScom

06-19-2005, 10:49 PM

After you start medical school, you pretty much only have the summer between MSI and MSII as your summer off -- for the rest of your life! LoL Ok, don't let me scare you. After your MSII school year, you would have a few weeks to study for the boards, and then rotations being on July 1st.

Ah, the last summer for 6 years! (No summer before residency either) +pity+
I have to find a way to get school credit for going to Nepal or Patagonia.
Anyone know about any clinical skills rotations in the Galapagos? ;)

How long do we get off for Christmas?

Timbo0984

06-20-2005, 08:55 AM

Congrats to all of you! You made it and you're weeks away from the openning bbq. Now, someone like me would die to go to nycom, if you think you had al ow gpa or mcat, and got in, post it and be proud. I am looking at a 3.4/3.5 with a bcp (thank god no math) of like 3.8, and MCAT of like 23. I am gonna havet to pray alot.

Timbo0984

06-20-2005, 08:57 AM

GqDocStar

06-20-2005, 11:29 AM

Congrats to all of you! You made it and you're weeks away from the opening bbq. Now, someone like me would die to go to nycom, if you think you had a low gpa or low mcat, and got in, post it and be proud. Just trying to get an idea. I know the avg gpa and mcat of nycom but that doest mean much, I want to hear about those that were below and made it.

i think that IF i got in i would be a low gpa ...3.29 i THINK...i didnt save my application profile and now its gone because aacomas deleted my account at the end of the application year....i dont know what it was exactly but this i do know...most of that gpa is actually brought down by ...you guessed it ..intro science requirements!(high test averages...low recetation attendences and blew off lab a lot only to make all of it up during weekends for huge penelties)...thats a really bad thing and feels worse to know you had good grades but got poor marks due to your brazen attitude towards school. but i got a 29R on my mcat and did awesome in all my upper division bio classes (bio major ..took all the difficult bio classes available such as genetics, micro, developmental bio, mammilian physiology, cellular signalling, neurobio ect ect...not those cheezy eazy bio classes to meet requirements like evolutionary bio or ecology based bios) and also in all my psych classes (i did a b.s and mainly concentrated on biology focused psych classes such as physiological psych, or psychological pharmacology and bio psych classes) ..I got interview...and now im waiting with hopes of getting into nycom for the upcomming year. on top of all that...i applied past all deadlines, so i will be the true example of low grade, late application, but huge heart and immense potential types...a true underdog...maybe there are others who are worse then me..but to me ..not being guranteed in anything is a risky situation...so good luck and ill keep you posted on any acceptances.