1hotaartichoke
01-02-2005, 11:27 AM
Hi guys,
just wondering if anyone has seen Swades?
:D
just wondering if anyone has seen Swades?
:D
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View Full Version : Desi Movie Review 1hotaartichoke 01-02-2005, 11:27 AM Hi guys, just wondering if anyone has seen Swades? :D H2O 01-02-2005, 12:34 PM Hi guys, just wondering if anyone has seen Swades? :D I haven't, but I think this thread is a great idea. :thumbup: priyanka 01-02-2005, 02:23 PM Yet to eyeball "swades". Should be up to snuff. PublicEnemy 01-02-2005, 02:37 PM yeah swades looks really good. i like the music a lot. i want to see kisna too. CaptainJack02 01-02-2005, 04:28 PM yeah swades looks really good. i like the music a lot. i want to see kisna too. the only desi movies I've seen in my life, hehe: (w/ subtitles, of course :D ) Dhoom - a HUGE ripoff of 4 american movies, but still unique for indian cinema. Kal ho na ho - priety zinta(sp?), enough said :D hum tum - cool movie, methinks. dil chahta hai - very nice movie. since i'm here anyway, i'll throw in that i love the music to chameli, dil ne jise..., swades, umm, what else..raaga's full blast :D and chicken tandoori and veggie. jalfreezie (sp?). yum. *edit* AND HAYWARD 5000!!! i had this the other day - never knew indians could make beer. i'm so proud of india :laugh: 1hotaartichoke 01-02-2005, 06:22 PM veer zara was good, but typical for one of his movies (devdas, hum dil de chuke sanam) etc. but still good, and the music is nice too. everyone, and i mean EVERYONE, should go see Mein Houn Na. it was really good and funny...very surprising for an indian movie...and of course Munnabhia MBBS. :D :thumbup: oh yeah, and saathiya too :) sinnah83 01-02-2005, 06:49 PM definitely watch munnabhai mbbs. its hilarious with all the bombay slang...sort of a desi patch adams. i can't believe nobody here has seen swades yet. i've heard its good from people but haven't seen it myself yet. parasiteatwork 01-02-2005, 07:41 PM Swades is good but quite predictable. I think you should watch hulchul...excellent comedy, and kuch to garbad hai(nice timepass)and i m sure everyone has watched hungama. :D H2O 01-03-2005, 12:33 AM Swades is good but quite predictable. I think you should watch hulchul...excellent comedy, and kuch to garbad hai(nice timepass)and i m sure everyone has watched hungama. :D Hungama is just plain awesome! parasiteatwork 01-03-2005, 02:48 AM Hungama is just plain awesome! :D :D :D DrAliyah 01-04-2005, 02:38 AM have u guys seen veerzara? it was a very sad movie. PublicEnemy 01-04-2005, 09:34 AM veer zaara was really good. although it was pretty overly emotional. but as a whole production, it was very good, the music, the colors, contrast, cinematography, nice. -me- 01-04-2005, 12:39 PM I for some reason didnt find Hungama to be that hilarious as some of the reviews on websites made it out to be... But got to admit, I nearly killed myself rolling literally on the ground with laughter towards the ending of this movie... I was trying to reach for the DVD remote to try and switch it off since I had a really bad stomach-ache as well as a "cheek-ache" because of all the laughing... But the remote was beyond my reach... Anyway, I really want to watch Hulchul... PS Priyadarshan's movies ROCK!!! *special mention to Hera Pheri* sohana 01-04-2005, 12:55 PM I for some reason didnt find Hungama to be that hilarious as some of the reviews on websites made it out to be... But got to admit, I nearly killed myself rolling literally on the ground with laughter towards the ending of this movie... I was trying to reach for the DVD remote to try and switch it off since I had a really bad stomach-ache as well as a "cheek-ache" because of all the laughing... But the remote was beyond my reach... Anyway, I really want to watch Hulchul... PS Priyadarshan's movies ROCK!!! *special mention to Hera Pheri* 2004 biggest hits r main ho na murder masti veerzaara mujse shadi karogi dil ne jese apna kaha hulchul /.....................swades is average not like kuch kuch hota ha ok...... DrPreet 01-05-2005, 10:06 PM 2004 biggest hits r main ho na murder masti veerzaara mujse shadi karogi dil ne jese apna kaha hulchul /.....................swades is average not like kuch kuch hota ha ok...... how can you guys like main hoon na? was sooo boring..the songs were good tho. lol veer zaara was a typical yash raj movie... im gettin bored with srks acting..same expressions and roles. the songs were awesome tho. Premedtomed 01-06-2005, 12:15 AM how can you guys like main hoon na? was sooo boring..the songs were good tho. lol veer zaara was a typical yash raj movie... im gettin bored with srks acting..same expressions and roles. the songs were awesome tho. Agreed 100% parasiteatwork 01-06-2005, 04:27 AM 2004 biggest hits r main ho na murder masti veerzaara mujse shadi karogi dil ne jese apna kaha hulchul /.....................swades is average not like kuch kuch hota ha ok...... Dil ne jise apna kaha was a horrible movie....more like a kids movie but i agree that hulchul was great and so was veerzara.havent seen main hun naa yet. parasiteatwork 01-06-2005, 04:31 AM veer zaara was a typical yash raj movie... im gettin bored with srks acting..same expressions and roles. the songs were awesome tho. Comeon....srk does not act for the guys...its the girls who r his fans and they like him in the same roles with the same expressions. sohana 01-06-2005, 04:44 AM how can you guys like main hoon na? was sooo boring..the songs were good tho. lol veer zaara was a typical yash raj movie... im gettin bored with srks acting..same expressions and roles. the songs were awesome tho. if u r boor of shahrukh than i think u like movies like HUM KON HAIN BLACK MAGIC ABRAA K ATABRA LIKE THAT N UR FAV ACTOR WILL BE TUSHAR WALA YA KODAYA ALLAH HAFIZ BACHA TUM KO EID KA CHAND MUBARAK HO A BACHA GALA LAG JA parasiteatwork 01-06-2005, 04:50 AM if u r boor of shahrukh than i think u like movies like HUM KON HAIN BLACK MAGIC ABRAA K ATABRA LIKE THAT N UR FAV ACTOR WILL BE TUSHAR WALA YA KODAYA ALLAH HAFIZ BACHA TUM KO EID KA CHAND MUBARAK HO A BACHA GALA LAG JA Hey ...did u really see all those movies??? :D :D :D sohana 01-06-2005, 08:54 AM Hey ...did u really see all those movies??? :D :D :D no i am not like u to waste my time priyanka 01-06-2005, 01:48 PM I watched Veer Zarra and cried like a baby. I wanta see Naach too. I ve seen the dances from that movie, they are just extraodinare! Although some people din't like 'em. antara mali :thumbup: ice_23 01-06-2005, 03:31 PM I watched Veer Zarra and cried like a baby. I wanta see Naach too. I ve seen the dances from that movie, they are just extraodinare! Although some people din't like 'em. antara mali :thumbup: Sorry to hijack, but Priyanka, I once told you I had a cousin who went to bhavans? His name was Amit Kulkarni, but I'd doubt you knew him given that he hardly talked to anyone. He lived on Grant Road in Shastri Hall in Mumbai (that's where my father comes from). And, um, I once *almost* saw an indian movie about some actor with the last name "khan" who had or was indirectly related to the subject of AIDS. It was supposed to be ok. I stop now. ;) -Ice DoctorMalki 01-06-2005, 08:17 PM if u r boor of shahrukh than i think u like movies like HUM KON HAIN BLACK MAGIC ABRAA K ATABRA LIKE THAT N UR FAV ACTOR WILL BE TUSHAR WALA YA KODAYA ALLAH HAFIZ BACHA TUM KO EID KA CHAND MUBARAK HO A BACHA GALA LAG JA so ur basically saying that any movie that doesn't have shahrukh in it is a horrible movie ? or not worth watchng? I agree with DrPreet... even though srk is a good actor and does nice romantic roles, that is all he does. he has the same expressions on his face ... he doesn't try out new roles like Amir khan or even Hrithik do. There are plenty of great movies to watch that don't have srk in them... hulchul and dhoom are examples of the most recent ones I saw. CaliAtenza 01-06-2005, 08:28 PM dhoom was hella good..finally a decent action movie that i can relate too with hotties in it..WHEN DID ESHA DEOL GET HOT AGAIN??? :D :confused: anyways..i wanna see Veer-Zara, Hulchul, Munhabai MBBS, and Aitaraz (the DVD from india is at home). priyanka 01-06-2005, 09:02 PM Sorry to hijack, but Priyanka, I once told you I had a cousin who went to bhavans? His name was Amit Kulkarni, but I'd doubt you knew him given that he hardly talked to anyone. He lived on Grant Road in Shastri Hall in Mumbai (that's where my father comes from). And, um, I once *almost* saw an indian movie about some actor with the last name "khan" who had or was indirectly related to the subject of AIDS. It was supposed to be ok. I stop now. ;) -Ice Hola ice, yea I remember you telling me about your cousin. I knew a lot of amit guys...and by the way i was in andheri bhavans. I am guessing he was in the grant road bhavans? there were two bhavans':) and I think you are talking about salman khan lol.. ice_23 01-06-2005, 09:14 PM Hola ice, yea I remember you telling me about your cousin. I knew a lot of amit guys...and by the way i was in andheri bhavans. I am guessing he was in the grant road bhavans? there were two bhavans':) and I think you are talking about salman khan lol.. oops, my bad. Yea he went to that one. And it probably was salman khan. ;) -Ice parasiteatwork 01-06-2005, 11:01 PM oops, my bad. Yea he went to that one. And it probably was salman khan. ;) -Ice whats with u guys discussing some cousin in some bhavan. parasiteatwork 01-06-2005, 11:02 PM no i am not like u to waste my time well...you know their names so u must have watched them. sohana 01-07-2005, 09:26 AM well...you know their names so u must have watched them. hmmmmmmmm shk well u will surprise to hear he born in peshawar pakistan 1hotaartichoke 01-07-2005, 11:04 AM dhoom was hella good.. hella huh? you must be from northern cali :D CaptainJack02 01-07-2005, 11:15 AM dhoom was hella good..finally a decent action movie that i can relate too with hotties in it..WHEN DID ESHA DEOL GET HOT AGAIN??? :D :confused: anyways..i wanna see Veer-Zara, Hulchul, Munhabai MBBS, and Aitaraz (the DVD from india is at home). OMG esha deol was officially plastered inside my eyelids for a long period after I saw that movie. Hoooooootttttt. And I was shocked at how racy the first scene was :eek: Yeah, it was a good movie - but I hated that it was a ripoff of Oceans 11, MI 2, fast and furious, and...another one i think. IF it were more original , then it'd be 'awesomer'. parasiteatwork 01-09-2005, 08:29 AM OMG esha deol was officially plastered inside my eyelids for a long period after I saw that movie. Hoooooootttttt. And I was shocked at how racy the first scene was :eek: Yeah, it was a good movie - but I hated that it was a ripoff of Oceans 11, MI 2, fast and furious, and...another one i think. IF it were more original , then it'd be 'awesomer'. It hardly matters whether dhoom was a ripoff of any english movie or not coz indians love movies only when it has their (indian)actors in it.ofcourse i m talking about the 'mawalis' who are the maximum cinema watchers in india.So it doesnt matter even if it wasnt original parasiteatwork 01-09-2005, 08:30 AM hmmmmmmmm shk well u will surprise to hear he born in peshawar pakistan i dont give a **** about that sweetie junebuguf 01-09-2005, 11:28 AM I agree with the earlier post about Sharukh Khan having basically the same maligned expression on his face in every movie....then again, you could say that about every other Indian actor. Hrithik is really good, and his movies actually have really good production values...but everytime hes on screen, I keep watching for the 6th finger!!! Can't he do something about that? Priety (sp?) Zinta looks like a childhood friend of mine, so watching her in anything is like watching a romantic dramedy with my sister. Kareena's hot!!! But she seems like she'd be kinda prissy and prudish in person. Saif Ali Khan is my favorite actor. He has really good comedic timing and is content being a supporting actor in good movies, rather than the lead in bad ones. I dont get Esha Deol...I just don't....get....her. Shes not a good actor at all, and always looked pissed off. Also...I havent watched most (actually...any) of the movies you guys listed, but I cant believe no one mentioned Kal Ho Na Ho. I thought it was really good. So thats my 2 cents. Even though I've only seen like three movies since last summer, I watch a lot more during breaks when I visit home...ZeeTV and SET are awesome! CaliAtenza 01-09-2005, 06:49 PM hella huh? you must be from northern cali :D no im not, actually..lol :D Im from southern cali too :) But so many nor call peeps down here, so "hella" rubbed off on me. Premedtomed 01-09-2005, 07:21 PM It hardly matters whether dhoom was a ripoff of any english movie or not coz indians love movies only when it has their (indian)actors in it.ofcourse i m talking about the 'mawalis' who are the maximum cinema watchers in india.So it doesnt matter even if it wasnt original :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Feels like I am back in India Premedtomed 01-09-2005, 07:22 PM i dont give a **** about that sweetie Goes on to show that even Pakistanis know their country is crap in numerous ways parasiteatwork 01-16-2005, 04:38 PM has anyone seen Rog??? NYCDesi 01-19-2005, 01:39 PM has anyone seen Rog??? My hindi might be a little off, but doesn't 'Rog' translate into = disease?? The chick in the posters for 'Rog' is SMOKING!!!! I was just in Bombay last week and almost had an accident while driving past her billboard. desikudi 01-19-2005, 03:07 PM My hindi might be a little off, but doesn't 'Rog' translate into = disease?? The chick in the posters for 'Rog' is SMOKING!!!! I was just in Bombay last week and almost had an accident while driving past her billboard. :laugh: yup,,ROG in english means DISEASE...but may be the movie meant ROG in a different sense :cool: ...may be prem(love) ROG.. or something else....sorry havent watched the movie yet. :( CaliAtenza 01-19-2005, 08:34 PM Hulchul is preety good..i haven't finished watching it yet though. Aitraaz is hella good...Priyanka Chopra is HOTTTTT! and Kareena Kapoor, i actually like her in this movie, for once, lol. I wanna see Rog and a few other movies next. nimeshshingala 01-19-2005, 08:44 PM Hulchul is preety good..i haven't finished watching it yet though. Aitraaz is hella good...Priyanka Chopra is HOTTTTT! and Kareena Kapoor, i actually like her in this movie, for once, lol. I wanna see Rog and a few other movies next. i saw hulchul, it sucks , the movie didn't make any sence to me aitraaz was a good movie, you are right,priyanka chopra is hot i am gonna watch rog this week i saw dil maange more , what a waste of time man!!!! i wanted to see sharmila tagore's daughter, she was a big disappointment parasiteatwork 01-20-2005, 02:23 PM i saw dil maange more , what a waste of time man!!!! i wanted to see sharmila tagore's daughter, she was a big disappointment I too agree that sharmila tagore's daughter was ugly:eek: .....she has a plastic smile n needs to learn to act n the whole movie was too :sleep: :sleep: ...... parasiteatwork 01-21-2005, 07:54 AM I saw Waada lately....has different kind of story....interesting!!! H2O 01-23-2005, 11:59 AM I thought Shaadi Ka Laddoo was kinda cute. parasiteatwork 01-23-2005, 02:02 PM The most yuckiset movie award goes to-- lou,ek ehsas.The movie sucks!!!! nimeshshingala 01-23-2005, 02:25 PM hey guys by this time you all must have known that the glamour queen of the 70s Parveen babi died yesterday what saddened me the most was the way she died there was nobody besides her in her apartment and the body was only discovered after the neighbours complained of foul stench coming out of her apartment. she was diabetic and had a gangrene on her foot her body is lying unclaimed at cooper hospital morgue, isn't it sad nobody deserves this kind of death may her soul rests in peace denty 01-23-2005, 04:41 PM Not even indian but have to recommend DEVDAS...it was soo beautiful! I wish they had the book it was based on in english. desikudi 01-23-2005, 06:35 PM Not even indian but have to recommend DEVDAS...it was soo beautiful! I wish they had the book it was based on in english. well,they do have english version of the book :thumbup: enjoy :) parasiteatwork 01-25-2005, 05:59 PM hey guys by this time you all must have known that the glamour queen of the 70s Parveen babi died yesterday what saddened me the most was the way she died there was nobody besides her in her apartment and the body was only discovered after the neighbours complained of foul stench coming out of her apartment. she was diabetic and had a gangrene on her foot her body is lying unclaimed at cooper hospital morgue, isn't it sad nobody deserves this kind of death may her soul rests in peace Thats too sad.... :o :o parasiteatwork 01-28-2005, 06:27 PM Has Anyone seen "Page 3"....... Premedtomed 01-29-2005, 01:32 AM Has onyone seen Yuva?? Pretty good movie! parasiteatwork 01-31-2005, 06:18 AM Has onyone seen Yuva?? Pretty good movie! yeah..yuva is a cool movie. What abt PAGE 3(yes,thats the name of the movie.....)Its tells the truth abt movie stars n the high class....a real nice movie!! nimeshshingala 02-04-2005, 11:18 AM Has Anyone seen "Page 3"....... i saw page 3 it is a nice movie, something differant than the regular bollywood movies it is about people moving in high society circles in bombay and how they live an artificial life it is reccomended for people who like reality and serious type of movies since I spent most of my life in bombay, I really appreciated the movie Also the Director of this movie "madhur Bhandarkar" had made " chandni bar " which was a movie about bar girls in bombay and that was also a brilliant movie 1hotaartichoke 02-04-2005, 11:24 AM chandni bar was an interesting movie. it was so sad, but it showed the reality of those girls. the part where her boy is in jail and gets raped is so sad. that whole movie is sad. :( nimeshshingala 02-04-2005, 02:10 PM chandni bar was an interesting movie. it was so sad, but it showed the reality of those girls. the part where her boy is in jail and gets raped is so sad. that whole movie is sad. :( yes, chandni bar was a sad movie but unfortunately depicted the real story of bar girls in bombay, how they get exploited by the society and what they have to go through to make a living I thought Tabu was brilliant in that movie and the rest of the girls were actually bar girls in real life Athene 02-12-2005, 01:24 AM yes, chandni bar was a sad movie but unfortunately depicted the real story of bar girls in bombay, how they get exploited by the society and what they have to go through to make a living I thought Tabu was brilliant in that movie and the rest of the girls were actually bar girls in real life CHANDANI BAR was way too sad........ Raincoat is okay............sad again... I loved aitraaz.........copy of Disclosure....yet a bold step for Indian cinema.... :D sunny123 02-13-2005, 01:04 PM Anyone see the movie Flavours (http://www.flavorsthemovie.com/)? It's another ABCD type movie which was ok. I still love American Desi and American Chai. But I haven't seen "Where's the Party Yaar?" as of yet. ktat72 02-28-2005, 07:41 AM Cannot remember the name of the movie (begins with an R), but I was watching a best of 2004 songs tape yesterday and saw this really cool song with Abishek Bachan and Bipasha Basu called "One love". This song should hit MTV - mostly in English and has a really good rap tune to it. Anyone see this song? parasiteatwork 02-28-2005, 10:01 AM Has anyone seen 'the road to laddhak'.....??? sunny123 02-28-2005, 12:39 PM Has anyone seen 'the road to laddhak'.....??? Nope, is it a documentary? Or a drama based on a real story? parasiteatwork 02-28-2005, 01:11 PM sunny- i have no idea..i just wanted to know abt the movie before downloading it!!! Akshay 02-28-2005, 11:04 PM GUYS...."Black" is a must watch!!!!! Rani and BIG B have totally redefined Bollywood and kudos to Sanjay Leela Bhansali....I loved the movie parasiteatwork 03-02-2005, 01:37 PM Nope, is it a documentary? Or a drama based on a real story? Its a horrible horrible movie...dont ever watch it ...you will hate it...there is no story...no acting....no humor nothing.....look for some better way to waste your time!! :eek: :eek: parasiteatwork 03-02-2005, 01:40 PM GUYS...."Black" is a must watch!!!!! Rani and BIG B have totally redefined Bollywood and kudos to Sanjay Leela Bhansali....I loved the movie yes...Black is a Beauty....Excellent movie...Amust watch !!!! :thumbup: :thumbup: sunny123 03-02-2005, 02:04 PM Its a horrible horrible movie...dont ever watch it ...you will hate it...there is no story...no acting....no humor nothing.....look for some better way to waste your time!! :eek: :eek: Thanks for the warning para ;) I don't plan on watching Mr. Bacchan's newest flick, cause frankly, the man cannot act. :scared: *sunny runs and hides* :meanie: Truth_Betold was referring to a film by Deepa Mehta, about two lesbian women (Shabana Azmi and Nandita Das), the film's name was Fire, and it was pretty good. Earth was also good, and I am eagerly waiting for Water (who knows when the mob will get off the director's back). Anyone see Mira Nair's "Monsoon Wedding"? That was one good film, with some great direction and photography. shardul 03-04-2005, 05:00 AM yes...Black is a Beauty....Excellent movie...Amust watch !!!! :thumbup: :thumbup: Yes certainly balck is a beautiful movie but it would have been more enjoyable had it been original one. Visit www.bollycat.com parasiteatwork 03-04-2005, 05:08 AM Thanks for the warning para ;) I don't plan on watching Mr. Bacchan's newest flick, cause frankly, the man cannot act. :scared: *sunny runs and hides* :meanie: Truth_Betold was referring to a film by Deepa Mehta, about two lesbian women (Shabana Azmi and Nandita Das), the film's name was Fire, and it was pretty good. Earth was also good, and I am eagerly waiting for Water (who knows when the mob will get off the director's back). Anyone see Mira Nair's "Monsoon Wedding"? That was one good film, with some great direction and photography. sunny- you r the first person whom i have met who doesnt like amitabh's acting....why is that??? shardul 03-04-2005, 05:10 AM Has anyone seen [/I]Mugahal- e- Azam in colour. Surely a watchable movie. sunny123 03-04-2005, 06:06 AM I don't know really, I guess it is just a personal preference :D . I guess the man recieves so much attention and devotion (have you seen the shrines people make of him?) just for being an actor, that I think it is really undeserved. When growing up, Amitabh was my cousin's favourite, while Amrish Puri was my favourite (because of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom). sunny123 03-04-2005, 06:07 AM Has anyone seen [/I]Mugahal- e- Azam in colour. Surely a watchable movie. I have seen the black and white version, and I still enjoyed it. 1hotaartichoke 03-04-2005, 11:33 AM sunny- you r the first person whom i have met who doesnt like amitabh's acting....why is that??? i don;t really like his acting either... its just so monotonous now... nimeshshingala 03-04-2005, 11:44 AM I don't know really, I guess it is just a personal preference :D . I guess the man recieves so much attention and devotion (have you seen the shrines people make of him?) just for being an actor, that I think it is really undeserved. When growing up, Amitabh was my cousin's favourite, while Amrish Puri was my favourite (because of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom). georgie boy you have a preference for bald people amrish puri, geroge costanza etc etc http://www.naomisworld.com/Thumbnails/George%20Costanza%20from%20Seinfeld-Roberts%202.jpg http://movies.indiainfo.com/tales/images/2010_amrishpuri.jpg sunny123 03-04-2005, 12:09 PM ^ Apparently the baldies are the best actors out there ;) Let's not forget about Patrick Stewart (Jean-Luc Picard), Kelsey Grammer (Fraiser), Avery Brooks (Captain Sisko), Samuel Jackson, Bruce Willis, and many others... Plus, I sport the dome during the summer time (best when playing tennis). I got shaggy hair that keeps growing, but now, its on the short, presentable side (never know when an interview will come up :D ). parasiteatwork 03-06-2005, 07:34 AM georgie boy you have a preference for bald people amrish puri, geroge costanza etc etc http://www.naomisworld.com/Thumbnails/George%20Costanza%20from%20Seinfeld-Roberts%202.jpg http://movies.indiainfo.com/tales/images/2010_amrishpuri.jpg Baldness....ha ha http://www.consumer.org.nz/images/photos/baldness-hero.jpg sunny123 03-08-2005, 12:08 PM Anyone see the documentary "Born into Brothels"? It was about children in Calcutta's red light district, who were taught photography. It also won this year's Oscar for Best Documentary. Anyways, I asked my university to order it for our media library. Unfortunately, I haven't come across a trailer for the movie. Premedtomed 03-08-2005, 12:11 PM Anyone see the documentary "Born into Brothels"? It was about children in Calcutta's red light district, who were taught photography. It also won this year's Oscar for Best Documentary. Anyways, I asked my university to order it for our media library. Unfortunately, I haven't come across a trailer for the movie. Sunny boy, here's the link to the official website no trailers though http://www.kids-with-cameras.org/bornintobrothels/film.php sunny123 03-08-2005, 12:13 PM ^ Yeah I visited the site before. Thanks anyways.. |