View Full Version : The fountain of youth


Shredder
04-17-2005, 11:41 PM
Is anyone else planning on cheating death, and how

HessExpress
04-24-2005, 08:37 AM
Cryonics, Man!

Shredder
04-24-2005, 12:20 PM
sure...but then youre counting on someone else to resuscitate you. its definitely the way to go if you dont find the fountain of youth by the time youre senile and nearing death

Indiana Jackson
05-04-2005, 05:55 PM
When it comes to aging there is an heiriarchy of things that will work to different extents, and it goes like this: 1)Caloric Restriction - This will work. If you don't mind eating like 1500 calories a day and ultimately weighing like 85 pounds and having no energy to do anything then you can probably use this strategy to live to 120 or so easy, maybe more. 2)If you like food and/or 120 isn't enough for you, then you have to wait a few years until they figure out the idea behind the human versions of the aging genes. Start with with the Sirts and also look into the insulin receptor and anything having to do with glucose metabolism. This way, you can probably knock out or overexpress a gene and live to about 150-200 comparing to the results with animals so far, just watch out for cancer. 3)Then move on to things like telomerase and stem cells if you really want to get risky, and now were talking 500+, but there is such little knowledge of these things that you might want to start with caloric restriction first just to live long enough to fully understand their role in human aging. 4)Finally, there is my personal favorite and the oldest and most widely used/accepted of all the approaches to anti-aging, Alchemy. I would suggest starting with some background reading on religious history, mythology, and related fields because most of the alchemical texts are written in deep, obscure allegory. Oh yeah and you should probably learn Latin, Arabic, Greek, and maybe Linear A. 5)Eat lots of oatmeal and drink red wine, the latter of which will work significantly better if you are drinking it out of the Holy Grail.

DrChandy
05-13-2005, 08:18 PM
I plan on preventing my telomeres from shortening.

Shredder
05-13-2005, 09:35 PM
yeah...but thats not 100% proven and you might get cancer right

DrChandy
05-14-2005, 12:12 AM
yeah...but thats not 100% proven and you might get cancer right


Cancer is a consequence of uncontrolled cell growth, when cells bypass the G1 phase and enter into the S phase and consequently proceed into the G2 and M phase. This occurs from problems with the cyclin kinases (cell growth regulatory proteins), among several other factors. In the absence of telomerase activity, telomere shortening (and ultimately the progressive deletion of information-coding genetic material on chromosomes) occurs as a consequence of cell division, whether the cell is cancerous or not (as the lagging strand cannot be primed adequately for nucleoside addition during DNA replication).

Having overactive telomerase(s), therefore, aids in the proliferation of cancerous cells by allowing the cells to replicate indefinitely. While it is an important factor in aiding cancerous cells, and is thus implied in the development and progression of cancer, it may not be the causal agent itself. This is due to the fact that telomerase activity is irrelevant in the absence of cell growth and division.