Pox in a box
06-06-2005, 09:34 AM
Isn't implantation impossible with Kartagener's syndrome patients? How does the ovum still reach the endometrium for implantation to occur? I was under the impression that both males and females were infertile.
Also, is anyone else having major problems with the forum being down?
cremasteric
06-06-2005, 10:25 AM
Only causes male infertility - not female. Ovum move down fallopian tube by peristaltic contractions - stimulated by estrogen, inhibited by progesterone. Ciliary motility do not appear to be necessary for female fertility.
HiddenTruth
06-08-2005, 02:29 AM
This is a current area of research question. There appears to be reduced fertility in females, but many are still able to conceive. And, fyi, this point has been tested.
Pox in a box
06-08-2005, 06:02 AM
Only causes male infertility - not female. Ovum move down fallopian tube by peristaltic contractions - stimulated by estrogen, inhibited by progesterone. Ciliary motility do not appear to be necessary for female fertility.
I read or heard that the female can't get pregnant due to her decreased ciliary action to sweet the egg.
Isn't implantation impossible with Kartagener's syndrome patients? How does the ovum still reach the endometrium for implantation to occur? I was under the impression that both males and females were infertile.
Also, is anyone else having major problems with the forum being down?
I was thinking the same thing during NBME exam, then Goljan's voice came up and told me that females are infertile too because cilia in the oviduct help sperm move up the oviduct, and also cilia move egg down the oviduct.
If I missed that question it is because of his lecture. :D
Pox in a box
06-08-2005, 11:13 AM
I was thinking the same thing during NBME exam, then Goljan's voice came up and told me that females are infertile too because cilia in the oviduct help sperm move up the oviduct, and also cilia move egg down the oviduct.
If I missed that question it is because of his lecture. :D
Aha, you confirmed it. I was almost certain I learned that from Dr. Eddie G. If I miss it too, I'm going to be mad. I missed a couple of questions on the path shelf for the same reason. I'm guessing you did too.
chak_de_phatee
06-08-2005, 11:19 AM
I read or heard that the female can't get pregnant due to her decreased ciliary action to sweet the egg.
http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic1220.htm
"Other features include digital clubbing and diminished female fertility. Recently, PCD has been associated with esophageal problems and congenital cardiac abnormalities."
Maybe other sources state something else but all the sources I looked at say decreased female fertility and male infertility.
HiddenTruth
06-08-2005, 11:49 AM
http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic1220.htm
"Other features include digital clubbing and diminished female fertility. Recently, PCD has been associated with esophageal problems and congenital cardiac abnormalities."
Maybe other sources state something else but all the sources I looked at say decreased female fertility and male infertility.
It is DECREASED, but they still happen--
"Although ciliary dyskinesia of the fallopian tubes impairs female fertility, the tubes are not obstructed, and women with Kartagener syndrome can conceive".
http://www.emedicine.com/radio/topic639.htm
chak_de_phatee
06-08-2005, 01:17 PM
It is DECREASED, but they still happen--
"Although ciliary dyskinesia of the fallopian tubes impairs female fertility, the tubes are not obstructed, and women with Kartagener syndrome can conceive".
http://www.emedicine.com/radio/topic639.htm
I never said it does not happen I dont understand the point of your post, I thought it was understood that diminished=impaired and infertility=no fertilization......... :confused: