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camarielle12 10-01-2005, 09:44 AM Hi,
I'm currently in my junior year and I'm highly considering UK med schools. I'm also applying to US schools next year but since my family moved to Europe a year ago, I'm also considering UK ones. I'm not familiar at all with the admissions standards and what schools to apply to so I'd greatly appreciate any help.
I'm a junior Bio major at Berkeley, current gpa is 3.78, no mcats yet (I'm taking them next year), lots of research experience (academic year, and summers since freshman year), 1 publication, TA, some volunteer work....
As I've said I have no clue at all when it comes to UK med schools so if you can give me ideas on schools to consider, how the admissions process works, etc... I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance for your help.
dr_siba21 10-01-2005, 10:36 AM Hi,
I'm currently in my junior year and I'm highly considering UK med schools. I'm also applying to US schools next year but since my family moved to Europe a year ago, I'm also considering UK ones. I'm not familiar at all with the admissions standards and what schools to apply to so I'd greatly appreciate any help.
I'm a junior Bio major at Berkeley, current gpa is 3.78, no mcats yet (I'm taking them next year), lots of research experience (academic year, and summers since freshman year), 1 publication, TA, some volunteer work....
As I've said I have no clue at all when it comes to UK med schools so if you can give me ideas on schools to consider, how the admissions process works, etc... I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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Scottish Chap 10-01-2005, 11:07 AM Hi,
I'm currently in my junior year and I'm highly considering UK med schools. I'm also applying to US schools next year but since my family moved to Europe a year ago, I'm also considering UK ones. I'm not familiar at all with the admissions standards and what schools to apply to so I'd greatly appreciate any help.
I'm a junior Bio major at Berkeley, current gpa is 3.78, no mcats yet (I'm taking them next year), lots of research experience (academic year, and summers since freshman year), 1 publication, TA, some volunteer work....
As I've said I have no clue at all when it comes to UK med schools so if you can give me ideas on schools to consider, how the admissions process works, etc... I'd really appreciate it.
I'm British, studying at a U.S. medical school. Impartial advice urges you to exhaust every option in the U.S, before going off-shore; this is not for the faint-hearted. Even after graduation, you’ll find it harder to get a U.S. residency. With a 27 or greater on the MCAT, you'll have an excellent shot at many M.D. programs in the U.S. so just make that a priority for now. Don't think about overseas schools until you've had AT LEAST two unsuccessful application cycles in the U.S. Also consider osteopathic schools, which is another very nice option for U.S. students.
Most British schools reserve around 5-8 places per year for international students. You will find it easier to get into those schools than British citizens because you’ll be paying so much money (it’s almost free for locals). You’ll also find it easier to get into British schools than you will U.S. schools, but they still have high standards. Expect to pay around $30, 000 U.S. per year in tuition, loans are very difficult to get for those schools, and I promise you that you'll never pay that back unless you work as a physician in North America. Most programs are five years long and they'll look at only your GPA (you're good to go on that front). Some schools will consider the MCAT if taken. The four-year GEP medical programs are very hard to get into and generally reserved for EU members to alleviate the acute physician shortage in the U.K.
I personally know of Americans who have gained admission at the various London Schools, and at the University of Dundee in Scotland. You need to apply to medical schools through UCAS (http://www.ucas.ac.uk/) which allows for only four choices. There are a couple of “MD style” four-year medical schools in the UK (St. Christophers, Kigezi International Medical School, London Medical College, Medical College of London etc), that operate outside of UCAS – those are satellite campuses for medical schools in Africa and other continents…..they are generally easier to get into, but the educational experience has been questioned by many people so I would go there as a very, very last option. Good luck!
Mike MacKinnon 10-01-2005, 11:18 AM Do a quick search of the forums. There is alot written about UK schools and it is easy to find as opposed to rehasing it all here
camarielle12 10-01-2005, 12:26 PM I'm British, studying at a U.S. medical school. Impartial advice urges you to exhaust every option in the U.S, before going off-shore; this is not for the faint-hearted. Even after graduation, you’ll find it harder to get a U.S. residency. With a 27 or greater on the MCAT, you'll have an excellent shot at many M.D. programs in the U.S. so just make that a priority for now. Don't think about overseas schools until you've had AT LEAST two unsuccessful application cycles in the U.S. Also consider osteopathic schools, which is another very nice option for U.S. students.
Most British schools reserve around 5-8 places per year for international students. You will find it easier to get into those schools than British citizens because you’ll be paying so much money (it’s almost free for locals). You’ll also find it easier to get into British schools than you will U.S. schools, but they still have high standards. Expect to pay around $30, 000 U.S. per year in tuition, loans are very difficult to get for those schools, and I promise you that you'll never pay that back unless you work as a physician in North America. Most programs are five years long and they'll look at only your GPA (you're good to go on that front). Some schools will consider the MCAT if taken. The four-year GEP medical programs are very hard to get into and generally reserved for EU members to alleviate the acute physician shortage in the U.K.
I personally know of Americans who have gained admission at the various London Schools, and at the University of Dundee in Scotland. You need to apply to medical schools through UCAS (http://www.ucas.ac.uk/) which allows for only four choices. There are a couple of “MD style” four-year medical schools in the UK (St. Christophers, Kigezi International Medical School, London Medical College, Medical College of London etc), that operate outside of UCAS – those are satellite campuses for medical schools in Africa and other continents…..they are generally easier to get into, but the educational experience has been questioned by many people so I would go there as a very, very last option. Good luck!
Thanks for the reply. I am still applying to US schools but right now, I'm pretty much deadset on applying (and possibly attending) a UK one. I don't think I have plans of settling down here in the US and with my family moving back to Europe (I was born and raised in Spain, before we moved to California), I'm even more eager to attend a UK school. What are the top schools out there? And do they accept international applicants?
dr strangelove 10-02-2005, 05:07 AM Thanks for the reply. I am still applying to US schools but right now, I'm pretty much deadset on applying (and possibly attending) a UK one. I don't think I have plans of settling down here in the US and with my family moving back to Europe (I was born and raised in Spain, before we moved to California), I'm even more eager to attend a UK school. What are the top schools out there? And do they accept international applicants?
All UK schools accept international graduates - usually they make up 10% of a year's intake. All the UK schools have excellent reputations, except for the ones that have just been founded in the past few years (they haven't had time to build one yet). The best ones are generally considered to be Oxbridge and the Scottish and London universities.
dr strangelove 10-02-2005, 05:09 AM Hi,
I'm currently in my junior year and I'm highly considering UK med schools. I'm also applying to US schools next year but since my family moved to Europe a year ago, I'm also considering UK ones. I'm not familiar at all with the admissions standards and what schools to apply to so I'd greatly appreciate any help.
I'm a junior Bio major at Berkeley, current gpa is 3.78, no mcats yet (I'm taking them next year), lots of research experience (academic year, and summers since freshman year), 1 publication, TA, some volunteer work....
As I've said I have no clue at all when it comes to UK med schools so if you can give me ideas on schools to consider, how the admissions process works, etc... I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance for your help.
If you're thinking of applying this year you only have 14 days left to send your application in.
camarielle12 10-02-2005, 07:37 AM I'm applying next year (my senior year).
Scottish Chap 10-02-2005, 12:20 PM Thanks for the reply. I am still applying to US schools but right now, I'm pretty much deadset on applying (and possibly attending) a UK one. I don't think I have plans of settling down here in the US and with my family moving back to Europe (I was born and raised in Spain, before we moved to California), I'm even more eager to attend a UK school. What are the top schools out there? And do they accept international applicants?
There's really no 'top' medical school in the U.K. All are pretty much equivalent and, unlike the U.S., where you attended medical school in the U.K. does not really impact your career.
FionaS 10-02-2005, 02:52 PM There's really no 'top' medical school in the U.K. All are pretty much equivalent and, unlike the U.S., where you attended medical school in the U.K. does not really impact your career.
Absolutely correct, though it's best to apply for med school in the area you'd like to work, since your first jobs will be in that area.
I'm a Brit at Birmingham Medical School, so feel free to ask questions.
There's really no 'top' medical school in the U.K. All are pretty much equivalent and, unlike the U.S., where you attended medical school in the U.K. does not really impact your career.
If you indeed plan on staying in the UK or europe, it probably doesn't matter which school you attend. If you ever intend to go to the US for part of your training, you might want to look for the schools with some name recognition over here (at times, UK physicians go for fellowship level training to the US sometime in their higher training years. Some bombastic sounding name of your medschool can be of help in that endeavour).
dr strangelove 10-03-2005, 07:39 AM There's really no 'top' medical school in the U.K. All are pretty much equivalent and, unlike the U.S., where you attended medical school in the U.K. does not really impact your career.
If you indeed plan on staying in the UK or europe, it probably doesn't matter which school you attend. If you ever intend to go to the US for part of your training, you might want to look for the schools with some name recognition over here (at times, UK physicians go for fellowship level training to the US sometime in their higher training years. Some bombastic sounding name of your medschool can be of help in that endeavour).
I'll agree with you there! My one experience of this in the US was when I was talking with the former head of the Johnson Space Centre, who was very impressed that I was attending Glasgow Medical School... even though he wasn't a doctor himself! I was chuffed that my degree's name recognition meant so much! OK, feel free to call me pretentious for name-dropping like this. :D
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Absolutely correct, though it's best to apply for med school in the area you'd like to work, since your first jobs will be in that area.
I'm a Brit at Birmingham Medical School, so feel free to ask questions.
jane2 03-23-2006, 01:52 PM Actually, since the disastrous MMC has been brought in, it's no longer true that you must work in the area in which you studied.
The top schools are indeed Oxford, Cambridge, the London Universities, and Edinburgh, Glasgow and Dundee. Generally Oxbridge are more focused on academic medicine (although the majority of students there go on to practise, the course is very very scientific and you don't even see a patient for 2 years (well, not in the same way you would do at most other universities, you might get to sit on a GP consult occasionally)- anyway, if you want to do academic medicine these would be the best places to go).
At the end of the day all of the UK schools which are GMC accredited are theoretically as good as each other, and there are people who think that various other schools are the best because of various other reasons - but generally, I think that the above are the best schools and are renowned for attracting very strong candidates and producing very good doctors.
Good luck with your applications! The UK is an excellent place to study. You could also consider Atlantic Bridge / Ireland, because the Irish schools are also extremely good.
Waiting4Ganong 03-24-2006, 03:52 PM There are a couple of “MD style” four-year medical schools in the UK (St. Christophers, Kigezi International Medical School, London Medical College, Medical College of London etc), that operate outside of UCAS – those are satellite campuses for medical schools in Africa and other continents…..they are generally easier to get into, but the educational experience has been questioned by many people so I would go there as a very, very last option. Good luck!
These fake schools aren't even an option anymore:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=268336
As for the OPs question - decide which country you want to practice in and go to school there. Simple as that. Medical training systems are incredibly parochial - you are better off being "in the club" from the start. Sad but true.
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