http://www.merritthawkins.com/pdf/2004_modern_healthcare_comp_review.pdf


heres a great site that combines all the compensation surveys and shows them on one spread sheet for each specialty


edit: Radiologists make WAYYYY too much money and I don't care if I get slammed for that comment

hmmm interesting, how about neurologist who go into neuroradiology later, are they considered neurologists or radiologists?
anybody?

K

hmmm interesting, how about neurologist who go into neuroradiology later, are they considered neurologists or radiologists?
anybody?

K


maybe you combine those salaries, now that would be nuts lol

well, I heard of an interventional neurora (or rad, can't remember) who 's making 700k per year, I don't know what I would do with such a salary :eek:

edit: Radiologists make WAYYYY too much money and I don't care if I get slammed for that comment

Don't mess with the moles man. They'll crawl up out of their darkened lairs and eat your brains.

Don't mess with the moles man. They'll crawl up out of their darkened lairs and eat your brains.

lol :laugh:

well, I heard of an interventional neurora (or rad, can't remember) who 's making 700k per year, I don't know what I would do with such a salary :eek:

http://www.auntminnie.com/index.asp?sec=mkt&sub=emp&pag=adv&item_id=22375

Title: Interventional Neuroradiologist in Washington, DC Suburbs. Top program, brand new Radiology department.

Brief Description: Interventional Neuroradiologist needed to support expanding, well respected Neurosurgery program at Washington, DC based hospital. Brand new Radiology department.

Full Description: Expanding private Radiology group in Northern Virginia has a need for a Interventional Neuroradiologist due to an expansion of the Neurosurgery program at their hospital. (snip) Your work hours will be 8:30 to 5:30 weekdays with a half afternoon off each week. Interventional Neuroradiology call will be 1:3 or 1:4. They offer 12 weeks vacation starting in your first year. Starting salary will be $300K or better with $450K at partnership.

Here's another good site for salary info. This is from the September 2005 issue of Medical Economics. It has some great charts from recent surveys. There is some surprising info.

http://www.memag.com/memag/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=179086

hmmm interesting, how about neurologist who go into neuroradiology later, are they considered neurologists or radiologists?
anybody?

K

Neurologists cannot do neuroradiology fellowships.

Neuroradiology is a fellowship for radiologists.

Outside of academia, most neuroradiologists are lucky if 50% of the scans they read are neuro.

Neurologists cannot do neuroradiology fellowships.

Neuroradiology is a fellowship for radiologists.

Outside of academia, most neuroradiologists are lucky if 50% of the scans they read are neuro.

Neurologists CAN go into neuroradiology, it's an atypical pathway but many neurologists have taken it, including one that I know.

K

Neurologists CAN go into neuroradiology, it's an atypical pathway but many neurologists have taken it, including one that I know.

K

Are you confusing neuroradiology and neurointerventional radiology?

If a neurologist would happen to do a fellowship in neuroradiology, he still would be unable to sit for the boards in radiology. Neurology trained neuroradiologists (if even 1% of neuroradiologists come from neurology I would be surprised) have no chance of securing a position in a radiology private practice group.

http://www.merritthawkins.com/pdf/2004_modern_healthcare_comp_review.pdf


heres a great site that combines all the compensation surveys and shows them on one spread sheet for each specialty


edit: Radiologists make WAYYYY too much money and I don't care if I get slammed for that comment

excellent! thanks for this link. this is way better than relying on one survey.
:thumbup:

edit: and seesh! for being nerdy, photophobic sociopaths unwilling to take on any real responsibility, radiologists certainly do make a helluva lotta ca$h.

(it's okay, i plan on going into rads).

edit 2: are these figures usually take-home? or pre-tax?

http://www.auntminnie.com/index.asp?sec=mkt&sub=emp&pag=adv&item_id=22375

Title: Interventional Neuroradiologist in Washington, DC Suburbs. Top program, brand new Radiology department.

Brief Description: Interventional Neuroradiologist needed to support expanding, well respected Neurosurgery program at Washington, DC based hospital. Brand new Radiology department.

Full Description: Expanding private Radiology group in Northern Virginia has a need for a Interventional Neuroradiologist due to an expansion of the Neurosurgery program at their hospital. (snip) Your work hours will be 8:30 to 5:30 weekdays with a half afternoon off each week. Interventional Neuroradiology call will be 1:3 or 1:4. They offer 12 weeks vacation starting in your first year. Starting salary will be $300K or better with $450K at partnership.


<faint> +pissed+ why didn't I pick rads? why why why..................

I don't need to crawl out and eat your brains. I can afford to buy better brains than yours to eat while I fly to paris every weekend.

http://www.merritthawkins.com/pdf/2004_modern_healthcare_comp_review.pdf


edit: Radiologists make WAYYYY too much money and I don't care if I get slammed for that comment


Is it that radiologists make too much money or that other Docs make too little money? I say the latter.

12 weeks of vacation holy cow

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edit: Radiologists make WAYYYY too much money and I don't care if I get slammed for that comment



I don't know about this. The last time I did a Radiology rotation I went dizzy finding out how much radiologists have to know.

Is it that radiologists make too much money or that other Docs make too little money? I say the latter.

Good point. Medicine is the only field that I know of that has the most training, the most sacrfice and where you frequently (on SDN) hear that we make too MUCH money.

I assure you, there are plenty of other people and professions out there that really do make too much money. After what we go through, making a few hundred thousand a year is nothing.

Investment bankers make too much money for the level of intellect/training that they go through... it's the nature of financial world however...

Prolly the least money for the intellect/training is architecture/professor/researcher

medicine is definitely decent in terms of financial reward for work put in...

They survey did not include Occupational Medicine and Aerospace Medicine specialist. Any of you guys have any idea of median salary rates for these specialties.

Thanks.

They survey did not include Occupational Medicine and Aerospace Medicine specialist. Any of you guys have any idea of median salary rates for these specialties.

Thanks.


Aeromed has some of the lowest salaries you'll ever see. There are full-time aeromed jobs offered by the FAA right now for a whopping "$65,000-95,000". I wonder if that's "65 to start, with a peak of 95", or if its "95 if you have lots of experience". Either way, I officially dropped that ambition after reading that. Of course, you may be able to get on with NASA or something cool like that, but you're still going to be limited by the same government pay scale.

Part-time aeromed docs are highly sought after by the Guard and reserves, but that pays even less, and you run the risk of deployment.

HamOn

Aeromed has some of the lowest salaries you'll ever see. There are full-time aeromed jobs offered by the FAA right now for a whopping "$65,000-95,000". I wonder if that's "65 to start, with a peak of 95", or if its "95 if you have lots of experience". Either way, I officially dropped that ambition after reading that. Of course, you may be able to get on with NASA or something cool like that, but you're still going to be limited by the same government pay scale.

Ouch that hurt. I was really bent on doing Aerospace Medicine. I was hoping it would bridge my passion in flying. I hope things change for the better at least.

Ouch that hurt. I was really bent on doing Aerospace Medicine. I was hoping it would bridge my passion in flying. I hope things change for the better at least.

You can get a certification in performing flight physicals for pilots. You can be in any specialty I believe. Most doctors who perform these exams are also pilots.

1. You can get a certification in performing flight physicals for pilots.
2 . You can be in any specialty I believe.
3. Most doctors who perform these exams are also pilots.

1. True. FAA Aviation Medical Examiner
2. True
3. False

It's a good way to meet other pilots, but it doesn't make much money :)

1. True. FAA Aviation Medical Examiner
2. True
3. False

It's a good way to meet other pilots, but it doesn't make much money :)

I'm not sure if I agree with you on #3 and also about it not making much money. The FAA used to have a database which listed whether the examiner was also a pilot. In my area, about half the examiners were also pilots. I would be interested in knowing what that percentage is nationally.

Here is a spreadsheet which lists all the examiners.

http://ame.cami.jccbi.gov/active_ame_directory.xls

What is interesting is just how many of them are in lucrative and non-primary care specialties. You have radiologists, CT surgeons, neurosurgeons, etc., all acting as examiners. I would wager that most of those are pilots who are doing it for the love of piloting, because from a purely financial perspective their time could be spent better doing their regular work.

I wouldn't say that it doesn't pay much since the amount examiners charge isn't set by the FAA. I have seen examiners charge anywhere from $30 to $150 for a quick Class-3 exam. Usually this isn't covered by insurance so that is what the doctor collects. $150 for a 20 minute exam by a family practitioner/examiner is quite a bit.

I've had 2 exams so far. One cost $100 and one cost $30. I'm curious how much class 1 exams cost since they're much more thorough and also they're needed every year instead of every 3.

edit 2: are these figures usually take-home? or pre-tax?

The compensation is pre-tax (if you're referring to the Med Econ article).

http://www.allied-physicians.com/salary_surveys/physician-salaries.htm