Well I ended up not getting the condo, but I still wanna get a 2 or 3 bedroom and haven't figured out a roomate yet. Anybody know about roomate listings or anything? I've been swamped at work, so I haven't had time to really think about it... I think I liked echelon glen the best so far though, even though all i hear about is kingsrow on this thing... anybody able to compare them? anyways... hopefully i will find a way to figure out who i'm living with, ahhh.. haha


LOL, well i have a small confession. I am up in the air right now about where I will be staying, i kind of liked the landings, lots of space, washer dryer hook up, i like the community... I dunno yet. Dr. Rosen...do u have any input about the landings lol...?

If this helps anyone, I think I'll be living at The Village...the main selling point for me was the washer/dryer in the apartment, no security deposit, close proximity to school (i'd like to get as much sleep as possible in the mornin), and my brother lived there a year or two back and said it was a good place (although its a bit smaller than the Echelon Glen apartments). The community seemed nice, minus the fact that one of the tenants who walked by me was wearing a belly shirt.....and he was a fat guy...its funny how you remember the things that you try your hardest to forget...

-usman

I put down my deposit at a place no one has mentioned yet. It has a 850sqft one bedroom for 800 or a 1,000sqft for $840. That includes all utilities. Looks like a very upkept community. It is just short of 5 miles from school in blackwood, nj. It is close to deptford mall which makes more convenient to go eat or chill over there. There is also a small deli store within the complex that will deliver to your unit. Imagine getting bread delivered when you run out. Some of you guys should check it out.

http://www.rent.com/media/property/593/593119_w.jpg

This complex sounds nice. What is the name of the complex? Does it have a w/d in the unit? I'm planning to go back down in a couple of weeks and check out some more complexes and make a final decision so I'd love to check it out...





I put down my deposit at a place no one has mentioned yet. It has a 850sqft one bedroom for 800 or a 1,000sqft for $840. That includes all utilities. Looks like a very upkept community. It is just short of 5 miles from school in blackwood, nj. It is close to deptford mall which makes more convenient to go eat or chill over there. There is also a small deli store within the complex that will deliver to your unit. Imagine getting bread delivered when you run out. Some of you guys should check it out.

http://www.rent.com/media/property/593/593119_w.jpg

I put down my deposit at a place no one has mentioned yet. It has a 850sqft one bedroom for 800 or a 1,000sqft for $840. That includes all utilities. Looks like a very upkept community. It is just short of 5 miles from school in blackwood, nj. It is close to deptford mall which makes more convenient to go eat or chill over there. There is also a small deli store within the complex that will deliver to your unit. Imagine getting bread delivered when you run out. Some of you guys should check it out.


Hey Alex,
I visited lakeview....i actually got lost going there...the apartments were too secluded in the woods from my taste.....coming from NY you learn that its important to be in wide open spaces lol but that was also my issue with Landings at pine lake....where yes i agree with Dr. Coords that the apts. were nice...roomy...and pretty lake. But again, i felt like it was all enclosed and i might possibly doubt how safe walking at night is to and from my car. And as jaynine pointed it out it was a BIT sketchy. Then again I am a female :) so perhaps for you gentleman this isnt a concern. My other option is to hire bodyguards lol so for anyone in our class looking to make some extra $$ let me know lol. Landings is still an option for me but they still have nothing available so who knows. As long as we all have apartments somewhere thats what matters and to each his own size shape and preference.

-Polina :D

Hey Alex,
I visited lakeview....i actually got lost going there...the apartments were too secluded in the woods from my taste.....coming from NY you learn that its important to be in wide open spaces lol but that was also my issue with Landings at pine lake....where yes i agree with Dr. Coords that the apts. were nice...roomy...and pretty lake. But again, i felt like it was all enclosed and i might possibly doubt how safe walking at night is to and from my car. And as jaynine pointed it out it was a BIT sketchy. Then again I am a female :) so perhaps for you gentleman this isnt a concern. My other option is to hire bodyguards lol so for anyone in our class looking to make some extra $$ let me know lol. Landings is still an option for me but they still have nothing available so who knows. As long as we all have apartments somewhere thats what matters and to each his own size shape and preference.

-Polina :D



What will you be paying me with :D , i expect breakfast often and the occasional home made dinner.

if you guys are worried about safety, check out voorhees, cherry hill, marlton, haddonfield

if you guys are worried about safety, check out voorhees, cherry hill, marlton, haddonfield

Yay for Marlton! I live in Marlton so I have some good ol' SJ pride. You guys have checked out craigslist right? I can personally vouch for the Marlton Meadows, it's literally within a 5 minute walk from my house. BUT during early mornings the traffic is a nightmare. Also, I think you'd be a bit farther away from others that are living in Lindenwold/Voorhees; and if you live in Lindenwold or Voorhees, PATCO is closer for those trips to Philly.

http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/search?areaID=170&subAreaID=&query=marlton&catAbbreviation=hhh

I am looking to make extra money.

I don't get on as much as I should.... But I'm a first year. Everything Nate says is valuable info. So definitely take his advice.
I was a pre-matric student. Any questions, feel free to ask me. If you were asked or invited to do pre-matric....DO IT!!!!! It was so helpful, informative and you get a head start on things.
I'm also a memebr of SNMA and currently on the e-board, so any questions are welcomed.
As far as living. I live in the Landings and I love it. It's very safe and you get the most bang for your buck. I originally was going to live in the Village. I decided on Landings because you get more square feet and all untilities except electric is included. That means cooking and Laundry and heat are free. You only pay A/C which I never used because it's already cool in my apt and electric. I pay 775 a month includin w/d in my apt. I have Comcast cable and internet that will run you $50-$100 if you get in on the promotions. My Electric bill runs $30-$60 depending on how much I leave my on if I fall asleep :0)The Village is very nice and in a very nice area but the idea of paying $800-$900 for a small space turned me off. Mind you, you have to pay all untilities separate from your rent. So really look into all of those things. I looked at a lot of apartments before I decided on Landings. If you all have specific questions on other apts, fell free to ask. I know I stated this earlier. Most people like or live at Stonington (AKA: UMDNJ City), Village, Landings, Pine Hill Gardens and Chalet Gardens. I've seen all of these places. Some people live in Echelon Glen, but I don't hear much about it and Timber Ridge for roomates. A lot of the apts that were listed on that websites are sketchy in my opinion, so make sure you take a good look at the apt, the benefits and the safety.

Hope I was helpful

FYI: I'm a female from NY who knows the importance of being safe at all times. Another incentive of the pre-matric is getting your apt and getting totally settle before school start. A lot of my fellow prematricers spent the summer moving in and furninshing their apt. They felt at ease by the time school started. Wherever you decide to move, safety should be a concern at all times especially when you come to and from school in the midlle of the night. I live alone and I've never felt unsafe... but you must be cautious at all times (that's the NY in me).

I don't get on as much as I should.... But I'm a first year. Everything Nate says is valuable info. So definitely take his advice.
I was a pre-matric student. Any questions, feel free to ask me. If you were asked or invited to do pre-matric....DO IT!!!!! It was so helpful, informative and you get a head start on things.
I'm also a memebr of SNMA and currently on the e-board, so any questions are welcomed.
As far as living. I live in the Landings and I love it. It's very safe and you get the most bang for your buck. I originally was going to live in the Village. I decided on Landings because you get more square feet and all untilities except electric is included. That means cooking and Laundry and heat are free. You only pay A/C which I never used because it's already cool in my apt and electric. I pay 775 a month includin w/d in my apt. I have Comcast cable and internet that will run you $50-$100 if you get in on the promotions. My Electric bill runs $30-$60 depending on how much I leave my on if I fall asleep :0)The Village is very nice and in a very nice area but the idea of paying $800-$900 for a small space turned me off. Mind you, you have to pay all untilities separate from your rent. So really look into all of those things. I looked at a lot of apartments before I decided on Landings. If you all have specific questions on other apts, fell free to ask. I know I stated this earlier. Most people like or live at Stonington (AKA: UMDNJ City), Village, Landings, Pine Hill Gardens and Chalet Gardens. I've seen all of these places. Some people live in Echelon Glen, but I don't hear much about it and Timber Ridge for roomates. A lot of the apts that were listed on that websites are sketchy in my opinion, so make sure you take a good look at the apt, the benefits and the safety.

Hope I was helpful

BLASPHEMY!! ok im just kidding. Good info about the landings, If a second story apt opens up im pretty sure thats where I will be. EAG, please post more, all of us future SOMers love to hear from current students.

And I live on the first floor. I got my apt late even though I was in the pre-matric program. So there were no more 2nd floor apts. If you have quiet neighbors, then you are in luck. I would say to get a 2nd floor if you can. If you can't, get one that has 2nd floor qualities. My back area is high up so it's like I'm on the 2nd floor. Also, I made sure I got an apt with a window in my bedroom and not a sliding door (safety reasons) I gues my only problem with the first floor is the person above me. But it's not that bad. It's not as crazy as you might think.


BLASPHEMY!! ok im just kidding. Good info about the landings, If a second story apt opens up im pretty sure thats where I will be. EAG, please post more, all of us future SOMers love to hear from current students.

I don't get on as much as I should.... But I'm a first year. Everything Nate says is valuable info. So definitely take his advice.
I was a pre-matric student. Any questions, feel free to ask me. If you were asked or invited to do pre-matric....DO IT!!!!! It was so helpful, informative and you get a head start on things.
I'm also a memebr of SNMA and currently on the e-board, so any questions are welcomed.
As far as living. I live in the Landings and I love it. It's very safe and you get the most bang for your buck. I originally was going to live in the Village. I decided on Landings because you get more square feet and all untilities except electric is included. That means cooking and Laundry and heat are free. You only pay A/C which I never used because it's already cool in my apt and electric. I pay 775 a month includin w/d in my apt. I have Comcast cable and internet that will run you $50-$100 if you get in on the promotions. My Electric bill runs $30-$60 depending on how much I leave my on if I fall asleep :0)The Village is very nice and in a very nice area but the idea of paying $800-$900 for a small space turned me off. Mind you, you have to pay all untilities separate from your rent. So really look into all of those things. I looked at a lot of apartments before I decided on Landings. If you all have specific questions on other apts, fell free to ask. I know I stated this earlier. Most people like or live at Stonington (AKA: UMDNJ City), Village, Landings, Pine Hill Gardens and Chalet Gardens. I've seen all of these places. Some people live in Echelon Glen, but I don't hear much about it and Timber Ridge for roomates. A lot of the apts that were listed on that websites are sketchy in my opinion, so make sure you take a good look at the apt, the benefits and the safety.

Hope I was helpful

I was wondering if you could talk more about how you financed rent, etc while you were in pre-matric. That is a huge issue for me because I am coming from Ohio and moving expenses and initial deposits for apartments etc are pretty hefty right now. Any advice?

Hi everyone. I recently received a letter indicating that I was on an "Alternate" list, and I was wondering if anyone knows if this list is ranked or if everyone in the "pile" is rereviewed when a spot opens up in the class. I will probably call the admissions office tomorrow and ask, if no one knows, but I would appreciate any input you have. Thanks!

Hi all!
I'm absolutely horrible about posting, but I just wanted to say a quick hello to my future classmates :)
I already met Polina and Jaynine at a party about a month ago, so hi to you two again :)
and hi to everyone else too :)
~Christy

If you are waitlisted send in a well written LOI, it is about all you can do besides wait.

when does UMDNJ-SOM start interiviewing and also when do they start sending interview invites? currently i have a 23O MCAT but i will take it again in august, i should designate this on the AACOMAS application that is set to come out next week right?

If anyone is looking for roommates for the entering class of 2006, let me know. My name is Brett, I'm 22 and coming to SOM from FL. You can PM on here or catch me on AIM at med1co55.

Does anyone know the date of the white coat ceremony or when classes begin? I'm still on the waitlist for this year, but want to keep those dates open before I book up the summer... (I keep hoping for a miracle before then!!) :luck:

Does anyone know the date of the white coat ceremony or when classes begin? I'm still on the waitlist for this year, but want to keep those dates open before I book up the summer... (I keep hoping for a miracle before then!!) :luck:

Not sure of the exact dates but the ceremony is during orientation week which begin on july 30th, classes start around aug 8th

Your first day of orientation is usually White Coat which is on a Sunday (I think that's what it was for us). Orientation is a week and then you start classes. Spend orientation meeting EVERYONE in your class. Don't start studying or any of that stuff during orientation (we had some kids talk about that). If anything worry about getting books but don't buy anything new until you talk to your Big Bro/Sis cause you may be getting hand me downs.

oh and ENJOY your summer!

Thanks for the info about the white coat ceremony and orientation. I'm worried about the dates because I'm teaching a couple of classes this summer at a county college that finish during the last week of July. I hope that IF I were to get acceptance for this year, the final exams wouldn't conflict with the beginning of classes at SOM. Other than that, I plan on chillin' as much as I can before August! :)

Hey all, I'm applying to UMDNJ for the next cycle, and I'm planning on applying to both the osteopathic and allopathic schools. So I'm wondering, do you think either of them will know that I'm applying to the other? And if so, will this hurt me at either school?

I know that, typically, admissions committees don't know what others schools you're applying to, but I was thinking maybe this would be different, since both are in the same system. What do you think?

The first day of orientation for you will be July 31st, I assume the white coat ceremony will be July 30th, Sunday. There is no official schedule yet for you guys but our first day is July 31st and historically this is how it works.

Hey all, I'm applying to UMDNJ for the next cycle, and I'm planning on applying to both the osteopathic and allopathic schools. So I'm wondering, do you think either of them will know that I'm applying to the other? And if so, will this hurt me at either school?

I know that, typically, admissions committees don't know what others schools you're applying to, but I was thinking maybe this would be different, since both are in the same system. What do you think?


At least at UMDNJ-SOM, they will know because they ask you point blank at your interview. Where else are you applying? What are the results? Be prepared to answer.

It was asked of me at almost all of my interviews and I aswered honestly that I had applied to 31 schools and that I had acceptances elsewhere if that was the case. Just be prepared to answer ‘why DO’ and ‘why UMDNJ’ from there and have good reasons. My answer was that although I believed in the Osteopathic philosophy, that I could practice medicine in a holistic way with an allopathic education if need be and that I was judging where I would attend medical school by merit of the school rather than what degree it would grant me. From there I went on to explain why I loved UMDNJ and how I came upon those conclusions. Just be honest and put in some thought before hand and you will be fine. On a side note, these are NOT the ideal answers, DO schools want to hear you are most excited about the osteopathic philosophy and not just looking to get in anywhere. However, they were my honest answers and I did just fine. Good luck

Thanks for the prompt responses. I'll prepare myself with honest answers to those questions.

Hey, Well the 1 bedroom at the landings are in high demand and I might not be able to get one. If anyone is looking for a roomate to live in a 2 bedroom at the landings My name is Mike, age 22, I dont smoke. If anyone is interested just PM me.

Hi,

Can someone please tell me if Stonington Court is popular and basically a "safe" area?

thanks.

I didnt like Stonington court. I just drove through i didnt even get outta my car to look at the apartments. Polina did though so maybe when she wakes up from her nap she will have a better response.

I didnt like Stonington court. I just drove through i didnt even get outta my car to look at the apartments. Polina did though so maybe when she wakes up from her nap she will have a better response.
Hi Gotgame83,

thanks for the reply. please let me know where you plan to stay?

I did not like the studio at the Village too much because it was small and the 1 bed room is kind of expensive.

thanks.

If a place opens up at the landings at pine lake that will currently be my first choice. I was there for a second time today and It is definitly a place I would enjoy living.

At the risk of sounding like a princess, do most apartments in the area come with dishwashers? I lived happily for 10 years of my adult life without one and but I recently moved to a place with a dishwasher. I swear, it's like a choir of angels sings every time I run it. Yeah, yeah, I could live without one, but I have tasted the good life and I don't want to go back! Seriously, I'm the slowest dishwasher in the world and I'd rather spend the time sleeping or working out.

Also, a few people have mentioned safety issues. I figure I'll need to be careful anywhere, but are there areas that are specifically known for their high sketch factor?

Every place i looked at had a dishwasher. I HATE washing dishes.

a lot of students live at Stonington. I personally didn't like it because I wanted a w/d in my apartment. At Stonington, there's a laundry room for every 4 apts and you have to pay like you were at a laundry mat. But what draws a lot of people especially the women is the "california-style closets" (basically you have a lot of closet space and it's walk in) And they also have an apt set up with a den that I'm sure people use as their study.

Just another tidbit to be mindful of. Traffic sucks on Laurel road especially after 4pm going towards Stonington and the other apts on that side. It sucks around lunch time and maybe in the morning going the other way towards the Village. This might be impt for the final apt decision. I don't want to keep biggin up the Landings because it has its faults too, but it's right off white horse pike and there's never traffic for me so it literally takes me 5-10 depending on the lights each way. Whenever I leave school and see the massive traffic on Laurel road, I shake my head and thank God, I decided to live where I live. I hate traffic.

Oh, one more thing, apparently, the police love to lurk around Laurel road at night to catch people going over the 25mph speed limit. Another reason why I like where I live.... I'm a speed demon and can't stand driving that slow :0) So I know, I would've gotten pulled over a lot. And being on the budget I'm on, I wouldn't have be able to afford all of those tickets.

Hi,

Can someone please tell me if Stonington Court is popular and basically a "safe" area?

thanks.

Has anyone heard anything about an apt complex called Fox Ridge?

Okay, so I am looking to either live in Kingsrow or Stonington Court...I much prefer the layout and apartment at Stonington Court but don't know much about the apartment complex.

Does anyone live there now and how is it? Is it safe? Relatively quiet? Any additional info?

Okay, so I am looking to either live in Kingsrow or Stonington Court...I much prefer the layout and apartment at Stonington Court but don't know much about the apartment complex.

Does anyone live there now and how is it? Is it safe? Relatively quiet? Any additional info?

Well I was able to get a 1bedroom apt at the landings at pine lake. I just have a few concerns.
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=local&id=4148117

And what is this i hear about the new clubhouse being built in the lots where two buildings burnt down? Hmmm.

Well I was able to get a 1bedroom apt at the landings at pine lake. I just have a few concerns.
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=local&id=4148117

And what is this i hear about the new clubhouse being built in the lots where two buildings burnt down? Hmmm.


Ok So i dont think we are ever gonna win.....If its not one disaster its another lol...so go figure.....i didnt hear anything about buildings burnt down?? When I drove around the other places i dont think i felt THAT much safer...based on what I saw. Stratford isnt exactly cherry hill.

-Polina

when is everyone moving? I will be moving Jun 1st

hi,

how safe is stonington court?
any incidents?

thanks

I am not sure but I think more of you should take a look at lakeview

when is everyone moving? I will be moving Jun 1st

I'm moving July 15th into the Landings.

though I think I was better off not knowing about that shooting there...

It was probably a domestic dispute, just realize the fact that it WAS news is a good sign, in places like Paterson, Newark, and Camden a shooting is not news since it happens nightly. I wouldn't sweat it.

I am sending out my deposit check 2morrow. I should be moving into the landings july 15th. I like echelon but it was just too expensive as a single bedroom.

I'm moving July 15th into the Landings.

though I think I was better off not knowing about that shooting there...

haha sorry. I visited the landings 2times and I thought it was a really good place and I liked all the space. I just picked up some great furniture today so who ever wants to come over my apt should be 3805 1st floor. See everyone there!

haha sorry. I visited the landings 2times and I thought it was a really good place and I liked all the space. I just picked up some great furniture today so who ever wants to come over my apt should be 3805 1st floor. See everyone there!

I'm in 3001 (first floor)...relatively close to yours, and moving in the same day!
It's nice to know there'll be a fellow classmate nearby :)

I live at the landings and I didn't hear anything about a shooting nor have I seen police activity regarding that. Like Nate said, it must have been a domestic thing. I live by the new clubhouse and I never heard about any fire. No matter, where you decide to live, there will be an issue. These aren't buldings owned by the school with just students residing in them. These are low income housing for the most part (that's why it's so cheap) with people from all walks of life. Find what you like and be prepared for whatever life brings you. If you decide Landings, Stonington, or wherever around here, you will all be fine. This is South Jersey not South Central or other places like that... nothing is really poppin off here like that. I've been here for almost and year and there has been nothing that serious that I've heard or witnessed. Like I said in previous posts..... you just got to have common sense wherever you go. If you are still wondering about the make up of some places, check my previous posts or pm me. FYI.... you will not even have time to be concerned about a lot of these things.... you'll be studying your behind off. Maybe that's why I never heard about a shooting. For those moving to the Landings.... welcome :0)


Well I was able to get a 1bedroom apt at the landings at pine lake. I just have a few concerns.
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=local&id=4148117

And what is this i hear about the new clubhouse being built in the lots where two buildings burnt down? Hmmm.

So it looks like at the moment lots of us are going to be living at the landings...ok so whos having the first party :laugh: Sounds like it will be cool. If enough of us are around in June lets all get together! Sounds like by july everyone will be in the area.

-Polina

Hey everyone,

So who else got a big yellow envelope today with our class picture lol.I cant believe they actually send us copies of it.....feels like we are back in elementary school but a very nice touch on their part :) arent we just all so special! Also....there are only a total of 22 guys in the picture! Something is wrong this...maybe im not going to the right school lol

-Polina

Or maybe I AM going to the right school :-) I also received my financial aid award letter today.

Does anyone know when or if there will be waitlist movement this year?

I was wondering if anyone knew much about the laptop requirements for incoming students. I am interested in a Mac but the website says Windows is necessary. Is this true? Would anything the school provides be compatible with Macs?

Hi everyone, I'm currently on the waiting list, but very hopefull that I will be joining the class. does anyone know what percentage of the last year's class was pulled off the waiting list?

One of the students i talked with at accepted students day said that the school's computer requirements are not true guidelines, but more suggestions. she said that it was really more personal choice, and how you like to take notes, but i am not sure about macs vs pc....

so what does everyone think about our very famous school... i guess all news is good news :-)

I was wondering if anyone knew much about the laptop requirements for incoming students. I am interested in a Mac but the website says Windows is necessary. Is this true? Would anything the school provides be compatible with Macs?

In which sense is our school famous? did i miss something?

In which sense is our school famous? did i miss something?

maybe the recent umdnj scandals

I was wondering if anyone knew much about the laptop requirements for incoming students. I am interested in a Mac but the website says Windows is necessary. Is this true? Would anything the school provides be compatible with Macs?

you can still get an intel based mac and using bootcamp software, dual boot windows and OS X. The bootcamp software will also be a default feature of Leopard (the next version of OS X) but that will not be out until January I believe unless there is a delay but either way, the software is there NOW. Furthermore, you can get an educational discount to save you another 100 or so dollars from a macbook and a little more on the macbook pro

Question for someone in the know @ UMDNJ-SOM: I'm in the post bacc program at Drexel (bio, orgo, phys, chem). My buddy somehow got rejected for linkage to UMDNJ-SOM's incoming fall class (before his April MCAT got scored) even though he got a 4.0 in the Drexel program and a 3.3 at his undergraduate institution. I'm just a little perplexed by this. He just called to tell me he got his rejection letter. I know there's more than just grades that go into it, but rejecting someone with a 3.3 and a 4.0 for this supposed "linkage" before you even get their MCAT scores? I withdrew post-secondary to UMDNJ-SOM due to an illness during MCAT time and planned to reapply next year with a slew of allo and other osteo schools, but I smell a rat with this "linkage" thing - from Drexel's end, not UMDNJ's.

I know there's a UMDNJ guy on here who seems to answer everyone's questions. According to our Drexel program, UMDNJ-SOM reserves (at most) 4-5 seats in their upcoming class for those who finish the Drexel Evening Post Bacc Premed program. My classmates and I did a little undercover work and suspect there is in fact no linkage b/w our program and UMDNJ-SOM, b/c the admissions women told me on the phone 2 months ago that they were only "in the process of coming to a linkage agreement with Drexel and we were just allowed to apply late" According to our advisor (a huge moron, by the way) there was definitely a linkage and that at at most 5 spots were saved for us, but they didn't have to take any. 'Thing is, it seems like from reading this forum UMDNJ's class has been filled up for a while. Anyone want to clue me in here? Does this sound fishy to anyone else, or am I on crack again.

definitely strange. All I know is there are at least 4 (could be one more but I'm positive of 4) Drexel post-baccs in my class.

class isn't final til classes begin. we had a student accepted THE day of orientation.

definitely strange. All I know is there are at least 4 (could be one more but I'm positive of 4) Drexel post-baccs in my class.

class isn't final til classes begin. we had a student accepted THE day of orientation.

Those are Drexel IMS/MSP people. We were from the Post Bacc Premed Program. Its for people with good academic records who haven't taken their prereq's yet (orgo, chem, bio, phys), and people with 4.0's and good undergrad transcripts are getting rejection letters before UMDNJ even sees these April MCAT scores.

yea... I guess i've just been reading about the scandal in the paper and i was wondering what all of the current students thought...

In which sense is our school famous? did i miss something?

yea... I guess i've just been reading about the scandal in the paper and i was wondering what all of the current students thought...

anyways... i can't wait to get down to south jersey - i am probably moving in july 15th - see you all soon!

In which sense is our school famous? did i miss something?

Hey everyone,

Just wanted to introduce myself. I'm a rising second year, and President of the Class of 2009. I want to congratulate you all on your acceptance to UMDNJ-SOM, and congratulations on choosing to attend. You should be very proud of your decision. With just a shade over 2 months till you get started, I encourage you all to relax and enjoy your summer, but feel free to ask myself, Nate, Dr. J and anyone else on here any questions you may have.

You will all be receiving some mail from me shortly which will include a survey and information regarding how we have a Big Bro/Sis program where we are going to match you up with someone in our class. Your Big Bro/Sis is going to hook you up with lots of info, books, study guides, old exams, etc. As a class council, we are also in the process of putting together for you guys a compilation of the best study materials and tips and helpful strategies to help you get through first year. Get excited, we're also going to have some great activities for you during orientation week and beyond.

Once again, I congratulate you, and welcome you to SOM, and I look forward to meeting you all.

-DK

hey, there really has not been any kind of official linkage program in the past, though perhaps they may be in the process of establishing one. the admissions committee however does look very favorably upon the drexel progam and in the past has even encouraged students seeking admission to consider the drexel program as preparation.

it seems every year there are a handful of drexel kids that end up here. there are at least 5 in my class, class of 2009. so to both you and your friend, i would not worry at all, i think you both should not have trouble securing admission here when you do apply assuming everything else is in order and you can show to the committee that you really want to be here.

hope this helps. if you have any questions, feel free to hit me up.


Question for someone in the know @ UMDNJ-SOM: I'm in the post bacc program at Drexel (bio, orgo, phys, chem). My buddy somehow got rejected for linkage to UMDNJ-SOM's incoming fall class (before his April MCAT got scored) even though he got a 4.0 in the Drexel program and a 3.3 at his undergraduate institution. I'm just a little perplexed by this. He just called to tell me he got his rejection letter. I know there's more than just grades that go into it, but rejecting someone with a 3.3 and a 4.0 for this supposed "linkage" before you even get their MCAT scores? I withdrew post-secondary to UMDNJ-SOM due to an illness during MCAT time and planned to reapply next year with a slew of allo and other osteo schools, but I smell a rat with this "linkage" thing - from Drexel's end, not UMDNJ's.

I know there's a UMDNJ guy on here who seems to answer everyone's questions. According to our Drexel program, UMDNJ-SOM reserves (at most) 4-5 seats in their upcoming class for those who finish the Drexel Evening Post Bacc Premed program. My classmates and I did a little undercover work and suspect there is in fact no linkage b/w our program and UMDNJ-SOM, b/c the admissions women told me on the phone 2 months ago that they were only "in the process of coming to a linkage agreement with Drexel and we were just allowed to apply late" According to our advisor (a huge moron, by the way) there was definitely a linkage and that at at most 5 spots were saved for us, but they didn't have to take any. 'Thing is, it seems like from reading this forum UMDNJ's class has been filled up for a while. Anyone want to clue me in here? Does this sound fishy to anyone else, or am I on crack again.

hey, there really has not been any kind of official linkage program in the past, though perhaps they may be in the process of establishing one. the admissions committee however does look very favorably upon the drexel progam and in the past has even encouraged students seeking admission to consider the drexel program as preparation.

it seems every year there are a handful of drexel kids that end up here. there are at least 5 in my class, class of 2009. so to both you and your friend, i would not worry at all, i think you both should not have trouble securing admission here when you do apply assuming everything else is in order and you can show to the committee that you really want to be here.

hope this helps. if you have any questions, feel free to hit me up.

So Drexel lied to us. People moved here from all over the country b/c of these supposed UMDNJ "linkages" that allows us to take the April MCAT and then go straight to SOM in the fall, and it doesn't even exist? I could have just stayed in Pittsburgh, paid state school tuitioin to take my prereq's, and $500 less a month in rent, taxes, and parking to attend a program that doesn't advertise having 4 linkage spots with UMDNJ-SOM when they really don't have any agreement for SOM to reserve any spots. My buddy could have stayed at Mississippi State. My other buddy could have taken his at Stoney Brook University with state tuition while living at home on Long Island. The linkages are the only reason anyone does this program, because you can take orgo, chem, physics, and bio at any accredited school in the nation. These "linkages" are the big draw. OK, I better quit typing, but this is a bunch of **** that I'm definitely getting to the bottom of.

Hey everyone,

So who else got a big yellow envelope today with our class picture lol.I cant believe they actually send us copies of it.....feels like we are back in elementary school but a very nice touch on their part :) arent we just all so special! Also....there are only a total of 22 guys in the picture! Something is wrong this...maybe im not going to the right school lol

-Polina

Yay:)...I also got my beautiful picture and thought the same thing! Still waiting on fin aid. Getting more excited by the day. See everyone soon!

I will definitely look into this as well. I know that they do accept late AACOMAS applications and they sometimes allow or wait for April MCAT scores to make a decision for the entering class that year, so its very possible that some kind of arrangement does exists whereby qualified people are allowed to apply. I will definitely find out more about this. I know UMDNJ-RWJ has this type of arrangement with the Penn Special Sciences program, where people who do really well are allowed to apply to RWJ in May for admission that year, bypassing a lag year.




So Drexel lied to us. People moved here from all over the country b/c of these supposed UMDNJ "linkages" that allows us to take the April MCAT and then go straight to SOM in the fall, and it doesn't even exist? I could have just stayed in Pittsburgh, paid state school tuitioin to take my prereq's, and $500 less a month in rent, taxes, and parking to attend a program that doesn't advertise having 4 linkage spots with UMDNJ-SOM when they really don't have any agreement for SOM to reserve any spots. My buddy could have stayed at Mississippi State. My other buddy could have taken his at Stoney Brook University with state tuition while living at home on Long Island. The linkages are the only reason anyone does this program, because you can take orgo, chem, physics, and bio at any accredited school in the nation. These "linkages" are the big draw. OK, I better quit typing, but this is a bunch of **** that I'm definitely getting to the bottom of.

I will definitely look into this as well. I know that they do accept late AACOMAS applications and they sometimes allow or wait for April MCAT scores to make a decision for the entering class that year, so its very possible that some kind of arrangement does exists whereby qualified people are allowed to apply. I will definitely find out more about this. I know UMDNJ-RWJ has this type of arrangement with the Penn Special Sciences program, where people who do really well are allowed to apply to RWJ in May for admission that year, bypassing a lag year.

Students in my program were allowed to apply late via AACOMA, but our incomeptent program director sent out an email giving us 2 days before UMDNJ's deadline to do so (this being way past the original UMDNJ AACOMA deadline), so only a couple students were able to apply, and people were furious because they didn't even find out about the deadline until it passed. People who did apply in time were rejected without even being put on the waitlist before their MCAT scores even came in, even if they got a 4.0 in the program. This is leading us to believe our program director lied about SOM reserving spots for us when in actuality, they just let us apply way past the deadline for the few spots that are left, and classmates are talking about attorneys now. Our program director was always talking about "finalizing the contract with PCOM and SOM." She botched the PCOM linkage all togather, which pissed me off enough, and apparently she never got a real linkage for UMDNJ either, but told us she did. I'll call Paula myself and get to the bottom of this.

Does anyone know if the specific course schedule for the class of 2010 has been posted? There is a bunch of information about the new curriculum here:
http://som.umdnj.edu/education/academic_program/undergrad/3c/index.html
I'm glad most of the new curriculum will be implemented and would like to see more specifics!

Also, will UMDNJ be releasing a new education handbook for this year's incoming class? The current one is labeled 2004-2006 but still has a message from the former dean. I want to make sure I'm reading the right one.

I can't do the pre-matric program, but I wonder if there's any way to "study alongside" the pre-matric people. I spoke with Jackie Giacobbe and she suggested I study some histo, medical biochem, and physio before matriculating. I picked up a few of the recommended books and wonder if it's really necessary for me to plow through every chapter or whether there is a good way to focus my learning and review.

Finally, sorry if this topic has been done to death on SDN, but can anyone recommend their favorite laptop that meets the school requirements? I used to love my IBM ThinkPad Mini (you could hide it under a piece of paper!) but have since grown to adore my middle-aged iBook. From what I've read, a Mac isn't compatible w/the requirements without using Boot Camp -- I wonder if mine might be too old for this, but will anyone be doing this w/their Macs?

Thanks for any tips you guys can offer (and thanks for all the housing tips so far!). I can't wait to meet you all this summer!

Does anyone know if the specific course schedule for the class of 2010 has been posted? There is a bunch of information about the new curriculum here:
http://som.umdnj.edu/education/academic_program/undergrad/3c/index.html
I'm glad most of the new curriculum will be implemented and would like to see more specifics!

Also, will UMDNJ be releasing a new education handbook for this year's incoming class? The current one is labeled 2004-2006 but still has a message from the former dean. I want to make sure I'm reading the right one.

I can't do the pre-matric program, but I wonder if there's any way to "study alongside" the pre-matric people. I spoke with Jackie Giacobbe and she suggested I study some histo, medical biochem, and physio before matriculating. I picked up a few of the recommended books and wonder if it's really necessary for me to plow through every chapter or whether there is a good way to focus my learning and review.

Finally, sorry if this topic has been done to death on SDN, but can anyone recommend their favorite laptop that meets the school requirements? I used to love my IBM ThinkPad Mini (you could hide it under a piece of paper!) but have since grown to adore my middle-aged iBook. From what I've read, a Mac isn't compatible w/the requirements without using Boot Camp -- I wonder if mine might be too old for this, but will anyone be doing this w/their Macs?

Thanks for any tips you guys can offer (and thanks for all the housing tips so far!). I can't wait to meet you all this summer!

I really don't think anyone should be studying before 1st year, but if you have to, you can check out BRS Board Review Series for Physio and Biochem. Or get a Netters and start reveiwing the anatomy of the spine which will help you not only in Anatomy but OMM as well.

As far as laptops, check out the Dell Inspiron 600m. That's the one that many of us have.

And now for the shameless plug: A rising 2nd year, Rachel, has one room available for anyone interested. She lives in Timber Ridge and her apartment is really nice and already furnished. PM me if interested and I'll refer you her number/e-mail.

Ya, I don't particularly want to spend my summer studying, either (that's what med school is for!) but I graduated 3.5 years ago and feel like some of the basic science material has faded. I was a competent science major, so some of it is ingrained in my brain, but I know I could use a physio review. Another DO student recommended I get a head start on spine and brain anatomy, so it looks like I'll at least do that. Thanks for the tips!

DONT STUDY!! Oh cmon, enjoy ur summer. I will be on ebay pretty soon to get some little outdated USMLE stuff which i will start to go over with my classes however I wont even open them until school starts. And OMMfan, I just find ur avatar hilarious, you just look like a VERY happy person lol.

DONT STUDY!! Oh cmon, enjoy ur summer. I will be on ebay pretty soon to get some little outdated USMLE stuff which i will start to go over with my classes however I wont even open them until school starts. And OMMfan, I just find ur avatar hilarious, you just look like a VERY happy person lol.

Ya, I like to smile and laugh a lot b/c otherwise I get waaaay too serious about life. Okay, thanks to peer pressure from you and Kevbot I'll definitely enjoy my summer! You've got me beat -- I hadn't even thought about getting old USMLE prep materials yet! I wonder if the 2nd years will want to get rid of theirs...

we've got TONS of crap for boards so before buying anything, talk to us!

-J

back to studying for BOARDS

When are u taking them Jay? And best of luck bro, uve been a great help with everything.

Ya, I like to smile and laugh a lot b/c otherwise I get waaaay too serious about life. Okay, thanks to peer pressure from you and Kevbot I'll definitely enjoy my summer! You've got me beat -- I hadn't even thought about getting old USMLE prep materials yet! I wonder if the 2nd years will want to get rid of theirs...

Ha, good ive gotten you to enjoy ur summer and I have gotten Polina not to do prematric and relax. I hear the 2nd years are very helpful when it comes to prep materials, and i also have a few things which I have acquired from various SDN members which will be very useful and I will make copies of for you.

Ha ha, you're not even a doc yet and you're already devoting your life to helping others like me and Polina! Thanks for the copies of that very useful stuff. I will rest easy this summer knowing everything will be taken care of in due time.

Hey guys, yeah don't sweat it, we're going to hook you guys up. You'll get old exams, review sheets, study guides, mp3's of old lectures, books, the works.

As far as studying right now, in my opinion, regardless of your background, you really don't need any special advanced preparation. Prematric is a nice program and a good opportunity, but if you're not doing it, don't worry. Your first year will start off at a very reasonable pace, and you'll have plenty of time to acclimate to the amount and type of material.

Enjoy the next 2 months! Do all of you know where you're living? If you guys need any help with anything, any questions, want a tour of the area, etc, feel free to hit any of us up.

Does anyone know when or if there will be waitlist movement this year?

the WL has started 2 move. i got a call last wed from paula watkins saying i was next on the WL and they were anticipating someone dropping, then she called again on thurs 2 say that i was officially accepted and i got the fed-ex packet by fri...and now i have 2 weeks 2 decide. but i've been told that most of the WL movement is in june/july and sometimes even til the day of the white ceremony.

Ha, good ive gotten you to enjoy ur summer and I have gotten Polina not to do prematric and relax. I hear the 2nd years are very helpful when it comes to prep materials, and i also have a few things which I have acquired from various SDN members which will be very useful and I will make copies of for you.

I completely agree with you! and I'm so glad you got them to enjoy their summer :)
I haven't had a summer in a loooong time so I know I'm enjoying it while it's still here!

the WL has started 2 move. i got a call last wed from paula watkins saying i was next on the WL and they were anticipating someone dropping, then she called again on thurs 2 say that i was officially accepted and i got the fed-ex packet by fri...and now i have 2 weeks 2 decide. but i've been told that most of the WL movement is in june/july and sometimes even til the day of the white ceremony.

Congratulations on your acceptance. :cool:

the WL has started 2 move. i got a call last wed from paula watkins saying i was next on the WL and they were anticipating someone dropping, then she called again on thurs 2 say that i was officially accepted and i got the fed-ex packet by fri...and now i have 2 weeks 2 decide. but i've been told that most of the WL movement is in june/july and sometimes even til the day of the white ceremony.

congratulations on your acceptance, I am also on the WL and was woundering if you don't mind sharing your stats and what you did when you were put on the WL, or what you think would help to get off the WL. so have you decided if you are going to accept the seat?

Did anyone get their physical yet? Its ridiculous, i feel so old. I guess actually getting chicken pox is the old way of doing things and now i have to have a titer to prove it. Not to mention UMDNJ doesnt trust immunizations so you have to have all the hep B tests done. Sorry, im just got back from having a bunch of vials of blood taken and im a little light headed while typing this. Is it also now standard procedure to do TWO TB tests spaced out by about 2-4 weeks?

Did anyone get their physical yet? Its ridiculous, i feel so old. I guess actually getting chicken pox is the old way of doing things and now i have to have a titer to prove it. Not to mention UMDNJ doesnt trust immunizations so you have to have all the hep B tests done. Sorry, im just got back from having a bunch of vials of blood taken and im a little light headed while typing this. Is it also now standard procedure to do TWO TB tests spaced out by about 2-4 weeks?


I haven't had a physical since high school (and i'm yet to schedule one) but when i volunteered at rwj they had me take 2 tb shots spaced out by 1 month.


-usman

Well then i guess im cutting it kinda close because the form has to be into SOM by july 1st. Thanks for the reply though, I thought SOM was just being cruel and unusual lol

oh crap, its due by july 1st? i better get on that stuff...thanks for the heads up.

oh crap, its due by july 1st? i better get on that stuff...thanks for the heads up.

I heard that if you don't get it in by july 1st they triple your tuition and you have to take the MCAT over. ;)

I heard that if you don't get it in by july 1st they triple your tuition and you have to take the MCAT over. ;)

Haha

Did anyone get their physical yet? Its ridiculous, i feel so old. I guess actually getting chicken pox is the old way of doing things and now i have to have a titer to prove it. Not to mention UMDNJ doesnt trust immunizations so you have to have all the hep B tests done. Sorry, im just got back from having a bunch of vials of blood taken and im a little light headed while typing this. Is it also now standard procedure to do TWO TB tests spaced out by about 2-4 weeks?


ha ha - i agree completely, especially since two tbs equals four visits - :-(, does anyone else think it's weird to not get the chicken pox anymore, i was talking with a 10-year old and told her I had to prove I had the chicken pox, and she couldn't believe that i had the chicken pox... she looked at me like I was 90 (for the record, 23 :-) )

What the heck! This is getting to be a bit much. I thought he was a really good guy and I only heard good things about him. Can anyone shed anymore light on this other then what the star ledger had to say? Who is taking his place? This is pretty serious for a friend of mine. Wallace had promised her a few things about her application this past year and hes the one she has been communicating with. Not good.

Is Shambra Hines gone too? The lady in the admissions office said that Shambra wont be in for a while and she cant tell me about when she will be back...

Hey everyone, I would like to start off by saying I will be glad to address any specific questions or concerns anyone has on an individual basis, so feel free to message me.

What i can tell you, is that there is going to be a lot of information that comes out in the upcoming days, including the departure of Dr. wallace from the university. There will likely be specific reports and details that may be confusing and may not altogether sound pleasing, however the university is taking swift action to address all concerns.

According to Dean Cavalieri, Dr. Krueger, the current assistant dean for education and curriculum will for now, be taking on the roles of dean of academic and student affairs and admissions.

I can personally assure you that as incoming students and current students alike, while its perfectly reasonable to be concerned with your school, you do not need to worry or panic at this time, as any changes will not affect your status, and the quality of your education. Under the extremely capable leadership of Dean Cavalieri and Dean Krueger, any concerns will be addressed swiftly and we'll be fine.

As class representatives, we'll do our part to continue to represent your concerns and keep you completely informed of anything and everything thats going on.

Is anyone here moving from the other side of the country? How do you plan to get your stuff to NJ? I'm looking at moving options and wonder what others have chosen. So far, a Penske truck with a car carrier or shipping my car and using a "you pack, we drive" outfit seem like the best options. The first option seems pretty expensive, but the last time I moved across the country I fit everything in my car.

For everyone who has found housing, did you need to produce a copy of the financial aid award before signing a lease? I haven't gotten mine yet, and it looks like I'll need to fly out to find a place before I roll into town with my things. I'm wary of renting a place without seeing it first!

I needed a copy of my financial aid award letter for Echelon Glenn. Since I hadnt received it at the time of my application I had to contact SOM and they mailed Echelon Glen a signed letter stating the amount that I will be receiving.

I needed a copy of my financial aid award letter for Echelon Glenn. Since I hadnt received it at the time of my application I had to contact SOM and they mailed Echelon Glen a signed letter stating the amount that I will be receiving.


Hi,

I just found out I"ll be in the Landings (107) stop by (Melissa and I will probably be moving around july 1). They asked us to show some proof that we were students (acceptance letter), and said when we recieve the financial aid letter to show it to them immedieatly.
-Amy

Im moving in July 15th to Echelon, so whats that i hear, theres a party on July 15th at 107 in the landings lol Im pretty sure theres a party going on from july 15- july 30th at Polinas too.

I know we all get free membership to the YMCA but I wonder if they will accept my acceptance letter as proof until I get some form of UMDNJ ID the first week. I know I have a small gym at Echelon but thats pretty small to use for the two weeks...

Im moving in July 15th to Echelon, so whats that i hear, theres a party on July 15th at 107 in the landings lol Im pretty sure theres a party going on from july 15- july 30th at Polinas too.

woo hoo!! come on by! Where is the YMCA by the way, I'm hoping to be able to use it before I get the official ID...
-Amy

hey folks,

I'll be moving in on the 15th of july as well at the Village and I can't wait to meet up with you guys. I was hoping the YMCA or parks nearby had tennis courts, a few baseball fields (does anyone know? i need at least one day of sports or i'll turn into a bitter bitter person) and if anyone wants to lift during the week i'm up for it.

-usman

Count me in bro. Im hoping that the YMCA will let us lift. I havent had two weeks off in over 8 years(not counting mcat studying last summer) and I would go crazy not being able to lift. I might even <gasp> have to resort to doing cardio of some sort lol

Count me in bro. Im hoping that the YMCA will let us lift. I havent had two weeks off in over 8 years(not counting mcat studying last summer) and I would go crazy not being able to lift. I might even <gasp> have to resort to doing cardio of some sort lol

haha, cardio <shudders>. sounds good to me man.

-usman

YMCA is located very close to Echelon Glen and Village

Village has tennis courts for residents, public tennis/bball courts available next to soccer field of echelon glen

there's another set of tennis courts and a softball field and bball courts behind the Hampton Inn.

-J

Whats going on! I just got my blood results back and it says im not immune to Hep B! Thats ridiculous, I had all my shots and its documented. Im waiting on my doctors call now but SOM better not tell me I cant do stuff because of it.

I dont have my health packet with me(its at the doctors office) but does anyone know the contact information for the person listed on our packets?

Disregard the last Post, OMMfan is great and just sent me the number.

If your titers show you are not immune then you have to be re-immunized. Some people need to have it done three or more times before they build the antibodies. You know it is for your own good so just do eeeeeeet!

Haha. yea i had to start those shots up today. I am going to try to just do a booster and get retested. I think shots are so bad when your a kid because you have like no muscle on you. They used to just jab it in there and 1/2 inch later I could have sworn it was hiting my bone lol or maybe im just really tough now!! (yea probably not)

I think you will need to retake the MCAT, good luck.
I got in with lower MCATS and was in top 3% of my class (guess I had a chip on my shoulder about the whole MCAT thing). Any that prob taking the best of my scores taking it three times.

Though I did have high gpa. Again over and over stat just get you the interview. You come off bad in the interview and it will not matter who you are or what numbers you have you will not get in. That is from a UMDNJ source.

That why I love they concept of considering the whole person and surrounding circumstances of his/her life exp.

does UMDNJ-SOM tell all applicants to do a secondary or does it do any screening based on g.p.a and/or MCAT?

Hey Brodaiga-
I just put a deposit in for Lakeview too. I'm moving in on July 14. I'll be down there starting Saturday though for the Pre-matriculation program. When are you moving? Do you know your apt number yet?

I haven't been on SDN in quite some time, but I thought I'd welcome the Class of 2010. Good to see the likes of Nate and PublicEnemy advising you guys. Not to mention the good DOctorJay. Enjoy your summer, and don't stress yourselves out before the work actually begins.

On a shameless side note, if any of you are planning on signing a lease at the Village and have a burning desire to save me a couple hundred bucks via referral, by all means PM me.

We look forward to working with you all, and hopefully living up to the standards of second-year generosity established by the Class of 2008.

hey polina,

you still in Kingsorw? I am moving in on July 1st! i dropped out of Stonington Court, damn new management kept giving me the run-around, being evasive. It became annoying. Can't wait to see everyone and start school...despite of the UMDNJ craziness that I read on other posts. I am sure it will be cleared up!

J9

does UMDNJ-SOM tell all applicants to do a secondary or does it do any screening based on g.p.a and/or MCAT?


can someone answer this?

I cant remember about the secondary, however you can get it off the website and send it in as soon as you complete ur application. I know they do use some scores for inviting you to come interview based on gpa and mcat and maybe some other things.

just wanted to introduce myself and say hi. just got off the WL 3 weeks ago and feel like i'm playing catch up now. seems like everyone already knows each other. i stupidly thought that i could live at home 2 save money since i grew up in the hill and came back 2 my parent's place after grad school...but def not now. i looked thru everyone's old posts and it seems most ppl r living in the village, echelon glen, stonington, the landings, and kingsrow. since u's have done this already, can u warn me which places on the apt list from umdnj r ghetto holes 2 def stay away from? thx. pls recommend if u know of any pet (cats) friendly places as well that don't have outrageous pet deposits/rents and don't require declawing which is cruel, since u're cutting off the cat's 1st knuckle/joint.

also, if anyone is interested in the 2006 class match list, i have that and can email it 2 u - dunno if they sent it 2 everyone since i specifically asked 4 it.

peace out and thx in advance.

I am pretty sure the secondary is given to everyone who applies, call admissions to be sure.

Echelon Glen allows clawed cats, i think they charge me 25$ pet rent a month though and the deposit was more.

just wanted to introduce myself and say hi. just got off the WL 3 weeks ago and feel like i'm playing catch up now. seems like everyone already knows each other. i stupidly thought that i could live at home 2 save money since i grew up in the hill and came back 2 my parent's place after grad school...but def not now. i looked thru everyone's old posts and it seems most ppl r living in the village, echelon glen, stonington, the landings, and kingsrow. since u's have done this already, can u warn me which places on the apt list from umdnj r ghetto holes 2 def stay away from? thx. pls recommend if u know of any pet (cats) friendly places as well that don't have outrageous pet deposits/rents and don't require declawing which is cruel, since u're cutting off the cat's 1st knuckle/joint.

also, if anyone is interested in the 2006 class match list, i have that and can email it 2 u - dunno if they sent it 2 everyone since i specifically asked 4 it.

peace out and thx in advance.

I am not form NJ, so I don’t know which areas are ghetto, but I do know that car insurance differs dramatically depending on the zip code. Here are some pet friendly apartments where your cat can have his/her claws:

Charlet Gardens has an initial pet fee of $250 (not sure if it’s refundable) and a monthly fee of $25.

The Landings at Pine Lake has an initial pet fee of $300 (refundable) and a monthly fee of $25.

The village has an initial pet fee of $200 (not sure if it’s refundable), but no monthly fee.

I am not form NJ, so I don’t know which areas are ghetto, but I do know that car insurance differs dramatically depending on the zip code. Here are some pet friendly apartments where your cat can have his/her claws:

Charlet Gardens has an initial pet fee of $250 (not sure if it’s refundable) and a monthly fee of $25.

The Landings at Pine Lake has an initial pet fee of $300 (refundable) and a monthly fee of $25.

The village has an initial pet fee of $200 (not sure if it’s refundable), but no monthly fee.

mil gracias psychopimp. damn, these complexes make some moolah off us pet lovers. i wonder if its cheaper 2 have my car insurance from the hill (08003) or an apt near school. i noticed that soma sent sth saying that we get a discount from geico (who is my insurer) and will look into that. r u living at any of these apts? here's maya and soho (though he's much bigger now, those were from 1 yr ago), and no soho is not named after the SOuth of HOuston area of nyc
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alchemist, welcome. 08003? you're from the hill? so am i. lovely "dreary hill" what highschool? what year? congrats.

alchemist, welcome. 08003? you're from the hill? so am i. lovely "dreary hill" what highschool? what year? congrats.

cherry hill high school east class of 1991 (yes, i am an old non-trad). i'm betting u're much younger. thx 4 the welcome PE. i used 2 b into their music during college. so where'd u go 2 HS?

cherry hill high school east class of 1991 (yes, i am an old non-trad). i'm betting u're much younger. thx 4 the welcome PE. i used 2 b into their music during college.

I live in lakeview, big apts and nice area close to school. pet fee is $100 and $16 extra per month. Could you please send the match list to brodaiga@aol.com

mil gracias psychopimp. damn, these complexes make some moolah off us pet lovers. i wonder if its cheaper 2 have my car insurance from the hill (08003) or an apt near school. i noticed that soma sent sth saying that we get a discount from geico (who is my insurer) and will look into that. r u living at any of these apts? here's maya and soho (though he's much bigger now, those were from 1 yr ago), and no soho is not named after the SOuth of HOuston area of nyc
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I am goign to be living at the landings.

cherry hill high school east class of 1991 (yes, i am an old non-trad). i'm betting u're much younger. thx 4 the welcome PE. i used 2 b into their music during college. so where'd u go 2 HS?

nice, fellow east alum. class of 99 here. welcome. there are a small handful of us here.

As some of you may already know last week I got off the waitlist at NJMS. Since that time I have had to do a lot of thinking and it has been very stressful. I have had to weigh in a lot of factors. SOM is an amazing school which has some great people to whom I owe a lot to. Nate and DOcterjay have been great with advice and help throughout this entire process. Kevbot helped critique my amcas personal statement even though he doesnt remember. Polina is a great person and im sure she is going to excel at downstate. OMMfan- wow, SOM you have no idea whats in store for u with this shorty :laugh: Rana you better learn some good shoulder OMM. And thank you to all the people who i didnt just mention. You have all been great and SOM is truely a big family. I expect to keep in touch with many of you and wish everyone the best of luck. I will be coming down to SOM often to visit as a VERY good friend of mine, Kristine, who will be attending the masters program there. I hope everyone will look out for her and she is a future SOM class of 2011 hopeful. In the end i feel the NJMS is the better place for me. I hope everyone will keep in touch and if anyone knows of any housing(or roomate) by the newark area send a PM this way.

I sent in my deposit for NJMS today and I will be calling SOM on monday to withdraw. I hope this will open up a spot for someone on the waitlist.
Once again, thanks everyone and I hope to see everyone around.

~Mike

Hey Mike,

Our loss is NJMS's gain! Congratulations on your acceptance. Good luck up there and keep in touch! Be sure to visit us and your VERY good friend early and often. ;)

All the best,

OMMFan

Hi All,

Was wondering if anyone here was looking for roommate or know someone who is in the fall... I'll be doing the MBS program and hopefully the DO program next year. :)

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

hey, everyone. june 18, 2006. i think it's time to accept the fact that i'm not getting taken off any of these damn waitlists. UMDNJ - SOM it is. now don't get me wrong... i LOVE the school. visited twice, and enjoyed my time equally as much. i was at the new student reception, and everyone i met seemed amazing. just thought i'd formally introduce myself to the group; can't wait to meet everyone. :)

-ralph b.

Hi all!
So we're getting closer and closer...
I'm moving July 15th, and being from Chicago, I don't know the area at all! So I was wondering who would be around and if anyone wanted to help me explore and learn where things were before classes started.

Can't wait to meet you all!

Hi all!
So we're getting closer and closer...
I'm moving July 15th, and being from Chicago, I don't know the area at all! So I was wondering who would be around and if anyone wanted to help me explore and learn where things were before classes started.

Can't wait to meet you all!

Hi, Chicago! I'm from Northern New Jersey, and as most other people from in-state would agree, North and South jersey are two different states. I may need to join you in the exploration!!! Ha ha.

Hi, Chicago! I'm from Northern New Jersey, and as most other people from in-state would agree, North and South jersey are two different states. I may need to join you in the exploration!!! Ha ha.

i went 2 high school at cherry hill east so i've been living in the area since 1988 (with the exception of college in chicago and grad school in boston and a couple of years in korea) and can maybe help if u have specific questions about south jersey and philly. i dunno that much about philly night life though since i spent my productive party years in chicago/boston and where i hung out during high school in philly doesn't count. but i can take u 2 a damn good chinese restaurant in chinatown that's open til 2 am on weekdays 4 study break runs - its where the chinatown locals go but now its more a mixed crowd since it got written up in the newspaper and is no longer only our secret hole in the wall anymore. if u need info on voorhees/marlton/cherry hill, etc esp about shopping or restaurants (the usual suburban, like where's the target) things, i can help u with that.

i should add that i did my undergrad in philly. i know that area VERY well. i forget how close we are!!!

I probably won’t be down until the white coat ceremony. I’m hoping to meet everyone during orientation though. I'm really looking forward to it. I heard there’s a lot of parties and activities the first week, which is a definite plus. I also may need someone to show me around a bit once I get moved in. I wonder how people find out about the parties and everything going on the first week. I guess someone will fill us in when we get there.

-Chris

I probably won’t be down until the white coat ceremony. I’m hoping to meet everyone during orientation though. I'm really looking forward to it. I heard there’s a lot of parties and activities the first week, which is a definite plus. I also may need someone to show me around a bit once I get moved in. I wonder how people find out about the parties and everything going on the first week. I guess someone will fill us in when we get there.

-Chris

It's fairly easy to get acclimated with South Jersey...you can always ask us second years for recommendations, directions, etc. though I'm sure many of you will figure most of it out on your own. Having spent 6 years in north Jersey between undergrad and grad schools, I completely agree with the earlier assertion that the two halves of the state are worlds apart. As for parties and orientation week activities, don't you worry, you'll be well aware of everything that is going down. Enjoy the Summer.

Thanks Ornis... much appreciated!

You will all be paired up to one of us second years as a "big brother or sister", please use us! I am sure many of us are willing to show you around and tell you what we know of the area and the school. If your “big” sucks then ask one of us here to adopt you, I am sure Kevbot, PublicEnemy, Ornis, or myself would be more than willing to help any way that we can. As soon as you know who your “big” is contact them.

I will be down at the beginning of July! I'll definitely be up for exploring South Jersey... see you soon! Oh - and if anyone knows of World Cup parties or good places to watch the games down there or in Philly let me know - Amy

just echoing some of the sentiments already addressed. definitely feel free to hit us up for any advice on where to go where things are down here. i'm from cherry hill, so i know the area well also.

chicago was a great time, fun city, did my undergrad there.

we're in the process of planning some really fun events and activities for your orientation week.

as for world cup parties, we have one basically everyday at our place. if you're around, you're more than welcome to come. we're planning to have a bunch of people for the world cup final.

i don't know how many of you are myspace addicts (i know i am), but i started a group if anyone's interested: http://groups.myspace.com/umdnjsom2010

Ralph I might have to shift into using myspace, facebook isn’t going to cut it for medschool anymore. I’m hoping though that when I get my umdnj portal password that portal has a social aspect to it to (more than just grades etc) where students have to ability to post in a certain section what’s going on for the weekend, useful resources for class, get togethers, etc. I really know nothing about portal yet so I can't say, but I'd imagine it would be convenient because all of us are going to have it. However, a quick myspace account with an email, number, screenname and picture, is starting to sounds like a good idea too.

-Chris

Chris, facebook went out with college. Myspace is the latest fad; everyone's doing it.

Chris, facebook went out with college. Myspace is the latest fad; everyone's doing it.

haha nice. I decided to finally give into myspace, though i've been completely addicted to facebook through college.
~Chris

Nate,

Don't take this the wrong way, but do you make it a point not to smile in your pictures? ;) Come on now, you should know that smiling releases good ol' endorphins. Haha. :laugh:

Ralph B.
Villanova University '05
http://www.myspace.com/rbflick120
http://groups.myspace.com/umdnjsom2010

Smiling is a sign of weakness.

Smiling is a sign of weakness.

*Colgate and Crest Stocks immediately tank

I saw Nate smile once and lived to tell the tale. Everyone else in the immediate vicinity got turned into a pillar of salt, though.

Do any of the apt complexes have covered parking? If not, how long does it take you guys to get enough snow off your car to drive to school?

Also, does anyone know the penalty for breaking a lease in NJ? Here in CA we have to give 30 days notice, but in NJ I wonder if I would be liable for the rest of the year's rent if, say, I want to move out of my apt at the end of our first year of school.

Echelon has covered parking but it costs more (I think it's like $35/mo). It really doesn't snow enough here to make it worth it IMHO but I'm from CT where it snows a lot more.

I just wanted to say “hello” to my future Class of 2010 comrades...I have been on this message board for some time but have failed to speak up.

My husband and I will be moving into the Village at Voorhees July 15th – anybody else living there? Also, anyone currently in the Manhattan area? I live and work in midtown and feel so removed from everyone already in Jersey.

Can’t wait to meet all of you!

-Nicole

I can't believe we will be starting so soon! I think I'm going to be living in the Village...it's so expensive...does anyone know if it is worth it?

Hi all
I was wondering if anyone knew of any good furniture stores in the area.
I'll be moving in a couple of weeks, can't wait!

I can't believe we will be starting so soon! I think I'm going to be living in the Village...it's so expensive...does anyone know if it is worth it?

Yes and no. I spent my first year here in the Village. I think it may be a little overpriced for what it is, but then again, there are a lot of shady places in this area, and the Village is one of a few that don't make me nervous. I wanted to live alone, and I love having my own washer/dryer. That made the Village a good fit for me. Having said that, I am moving into a townhouse with two of my classmates this year, mainly as a financial move. You CAN live alone in the Village on financial aid, you just have to live modestly in other areas and plan accordingly. Your electric bills in the winter will be extremely high. As long as you plan wisely, living here is doable. As for whether or not it's worth it, that really depends on what matters to you. Your first year of med school will present you with plenty of challenges, you should make sure that your living situation is not an additional source of stress.

Hi all
I was wondering if anyone knew of any good furniture stores in the area.
I'll be moving in a couple of weeks, can't wait!

there's some stores in the area and in philly. there's also an ikea in south philly less than 20 min away over the WWB.

um... i still don't have a place to live!!! can anyone help me out???

um... i still don't have a place to live!!! can anyone help me out???

what r u looking 2 pay? i can give u opinions on the village, echelon glen, and kingsrow since i checked them out this past weekend. i totally feel ya. i'm trying 2 get a 1 bdrm at echelon glen but they stipulate that u have 2 make 35x the rent, which in my case would be 32k and i was only awarded 30k from finaid. i called finaid 2 increase this 2 the max (42k) but they won't send another letter til school starts and echelon glen won't accept the 30k award letter until then since its below the 35x the rent thing.

(edited) if u're in this situation u can get an 'approved student budget' letter which states that the cost of educ is estimated at 42,954 which includes 1000/mo for room and board. u have to tell the finaid office to whom/where to mail the letter - they can't fax it and if u decide 2 live elsewhere and need another letter, u have 2 ask 4 another 1 with the new contact/address info

what's important 2 u in finding a place? price, distance 2 school, safety, etc?

safety, landlord attentiveness, distance, price. in that order.

hello everyone,

so i've been incessantly reading these posts and have decided finally to introduce myself. i graduated in 2005 and can't wait to get back to school. :)

i like flick and sweetlysung also need help on the apt aspect. i really don't know the area and need to get on doing the research and apartment hunting. from the gist of the posts, it seems like a good majority of students live in village, echelon glen.

geez i can't believe school is to start so soon. wow!?!? does anyone realize that we'll all see each other in a month?

did anyone decide to do pbl?

hello everyone,

so i've been incessantly reading these posts and have decided finally to introduce myself. i graduated in 2005 and can't wait to get back to school. :)

i like flick and sweetlysung also need help on the apt aspect. i really don't know the area and need to get on doing the research and apartment hunting. from the gist of the posts, it seems like a good majority of students live in village, echelon glen.

geez i can't believe school is to start so soon. wow!?!? does anyone realize that we'll all see each other in a month?

did anyone decide to do pbl?

hi kalicokat, any help i can give u and anyone with the apt thing, i will. i live in the area in cherry hill and went 2 HS here. i'm trying 2 get a 1 bdrm at echelon glen but having trouble with my finaid letter (ur award has 2 b 35x the rent and mine is slightly below that and they won't accept it). i called up the admissions office but all the upperclassmen (except 1 dude in haddonfield farther away) r looking 4 roomies w/o pets (i have 2 cats). i wanted 2 do pbl but got bummed b/c i can't apply 4 personal reasons. they r basically only going 2 take 6 students, 8 at max is what i heard...and i know that they started interviews already.

safety, landlord attentiveness, distance, price. in that order.

4 safety: in general voorhees is nice and safe, marlton and haddonfield r as well but much farther away; i think 4 the other areas (stratford, lindenwold, clementon, blackwood, pine hills), it sort of depends on the apt and ur safety comfort zone. cherry hill is a longer drive and east side is safer than west (but i might b biased since i went 2 CH HS east and not west)

landlord attentiveness sort of dep on the place as well and some of the upperclassmen can prob comment better than me. i was told by some of them (kevbot, nate, and DOctorjay) that where they live (echelon glen), they fix things pretty much right away and they didn't raise the rent 4 them as much as the reg ppl since they knew they were students and i know they're all staying 4 2nd yr (i think) so they seem happy with it. but echelon glen (and the village and kingsrow) r run by mgmt co's so they're less likely 2 bend the rules than ur friendly neighborhood landlord. if u mean by attentiveness, fixing things, then i guess they're ok. the village and echelon glen r next 2 each other and a 5 min drive w/o traffic. kingsrow is in the other direction but about a 3 min drive w/o traffic but they have a funny layout i didn't like. u go upstairs into ur living room and the square footage was smaller. the rooms at the village were smaller and more expensive but u can move in with just 1 month's rent, no security dep, and some incidental township fee ($45, which is $46 at echelon glen 4 some reason). the village waives ur ap fee ($45) as a umdnj student. echelon glen gives u 1 month rent off with ur accept letter or a current deal going on if that is better than the umdnj rate (they don't waive the ap fee, $40 and u need 35x the market rent (rent w/o discounts) in ur award letter, $200 sec dep if u have good credit (full market rent for 1 month if u have pets), $100 reserve fee that goes 2ward ur 1st rent, and a 2nd month's rent if u move in after the 10th, and proof of renter's insurance by move-in). the places in voorhees (village, echelon glen) r more expensive (about $800-900/1 bdrm and $900-1000/2 bdrm) but i like the safety factor and the fact that there's a small community of umdnj'ers living there 2 hang out, study with and get support from if sth bad goes down, i won't feel so isolated. i think that 2-3 brdms at echelon glen and 2 bdrms at the village r not so bad b/c when u make the split with roomies, its more affordable. the 1 bdrms require more budgeting. i know that brodaiga is going 2 b at lakeview in blackwood so u can ask him about there and there's someone at the landings but i can't remember whom. alot of ppl used 2 live at stonington in lindenwold (near kingsrow) but i've heard that they got new management that just blows and they also let just about anyone in these days so u might have some noisy neighbors. i'm going 2 check out chalet gardens so i don't have anything 2 say about that yet. i can't give any opinions on brookview, woodmere, bishop/stratford court or the heathers b/c i'm not planning 2 look at places that require me 2 declaw my cats. hope this helps. if there's a certain place u're interested in, pm me and i'll c if i can swing by.

thank for your reply. my problem is that i'll read all this great stuff about a particular apartment complex, but then i'll read reviews online such as "stay away from this place." i don't know what to think. i'm going to do a little research tomorrow while i'm on EMS duty. if any upper classmen have any comments on where they live now, let me know!

Ralph B.
Villanova University '05
http://www.myspace.com/rbflick120
http://groups.myspace.com/umdnjsom2010

thank for your reply. my problem is that i'll read all this great stuff about a particular apartment complex, but then i'll read reviews online such as "stay away from this place." i don't know what to think. i'm going to do a little research tomorrow while i'm on EMS duty. if any upper classmen have any comments on where they live now, let me know!

Ralph B.
Villanova University '05
http://www.myspace.com/rbflick120
http://groups.myspace.com/umdnjsom2010

u gotta b careful about reading stuff on sites like www.apartmentratings.com (esp when they r positive ratings) cuz even the leasing consultant at the village admitted that they go on there and write good stuff about the village and bad stuff about their competitors. take it with a grain of salt. if u have the time, i'd suggest coming down here from the cliffs (maybe on a weekend) 2 check it out once u've narrowed down choices from ppl's advice (4 OOS ppl, i guess this is harder or doesn't apply)...but only u'll know what u'd b happy with. eg, some ppl might b more comfortable in places that i wouldn't b in and vice versa so someone's advice is from their POV. maybe we can all plan on meeting b4 school starts (cuz i know that getting off the WL, i missed out on meeting peeps at accepted students day). and i think that the upperclassmen r a great source of advice, esp on apts, since they've been around the block so 2 speak in terms of living in the apts we're all interested in

any pre-matric ppl or upperclassmen with advice on books 2 def get? not that i plan on studying them :) but while i'm still earning some bling, i'd like 2 c what i can get online 4 cheaper b4 i become totally jobless, penniless, and a poor student again in july. the recommended books list for 2006 is outdated cuz 4 example, i have the 2nd ed of lippincott's biochem they recommend (and i got that in college and being non-trad, i b old so that book ain't new), and i know that there's a newer 3rd ed out there now. and mathews on that list 4 biochem blows chunks so i would def recommend NOT 2 get that - my grad school used it and i didn't think it was worth the paper it was printed on so i got by with my old versions of stryer and lehninger from college and did ok. i don't wanna buy books, waste moolah and leave them 4ever in their shrink wrap if u knows what i mean. so if i can get by with my college stuff (although some subjects like cell bio esp signal transduction stuff, mol bio, genetics, immuno have added alot of info since then) and buying some review/board books that'd b great, unless someone has some def recommends while i gotz some dough...hint hint

Does Echelon Glen have elevators or just stairs? If no elevators, do any of the apartment complexes have elevators? I like to take stairs but was reminded today of how helpful an elevator is for moving heavy things.

Thanks!

Does Echelon Glen have elevators or just stairs? If no elevators, do any of the apartment complexes have elevators? I like to take stairs but was reminded today of how helpful an elevator is for moving heavy things.

Thanks!

does any of the upperclassmates know if there is an advantage in learning from pbl? i took science classes that were pbl and some of them i learned a ton more and others no. personally, i think it depended on the professor and the students with whom i was discussing.

i wonder if i should get a roommate? i understand that the first year is rough so there are pros to being alone but on the other hand it would get lonely.

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does any of the upperclassmates know if there is an advantage in learning from pbl? i took science classes that were pbl and some of them i learned a ton more and others no. personally, i think it depended on the professor and the students with whom i was discussing.

i wonder if i should get a roommate? i understand that the first year is rough so there are pros to being alone but on the other hand it would get lonely.

sorry i didn't c that part of about asking the upperclassmen, so i deleted my post about pbl but good luck finding a roommate if that's what u decide

sorry i didn't c that part of about asking the upperclassmen, so i deleted my post about pbl but good luck finding a roommate if that's what u decide


alchemist, what have you heard anything about pbl?

i'm finally finishing up my medical exams today. i've been super (actually rather excessively) procrastinating on them. however it's pretty difficult to see the doctor when everything is closed once you get out of work. in any case, they'll be done soon enough.

alchemist, what have you heard anything about pbl?

i'm finally finishing up my medical exams today. i've been super (actually rather excessively) procrastinating on them. however it's pretty difficult to see the doctor when everything is closed once you get out of work. in any case, they'll be done soon enough.

i totally feelya about the difficulty with getting the physical done. i work at a med school affiliated with a hospital so my boss is understanding and its close 4 me 2 get the med stuff done. i have 2 do my 2nd ppd 2day and then i'm done. got the blood titers already (got varicella/chicken pox the old way but got the Abs so that's all the counts). but i totally understand having difficulty doing things after work.

i know that pbl interviews started. they r planning 2 choose 6 ppl, 8 at max. basically the class sets up their schedule usually and meet about twice a week 4 a couple of hours each time 2 go over cases and discuss what students researched and found out. its more student driven that the traditional curric. they r flexible with the schedule and can have more/less and shorter/longer classes. they don't have as many tests like the regular curriculum. they do lots of presentations and a professor acts as facilitator but there is alot of discussion. they get alot of early clinical experience. they score similarly 2 the reg students on boards. although last class was a fluke cuz they had those 3 supergenius teenagers we saw in the video on interview day (they got 99%iles on usmle and comlex from what i heard) - i think they would've done just as well in any type of curriculum. u can either email dr stein, the director of pblc and i am sure he would answer questions more specifically and with more knowledge.

thanks so much for the info.

with the physicals, the most annoying part was the 2 pdds that we needed. i can understand one. but the second one? even my doc agrees one should suffice.

is anyone able to access the email through the umdnj portal?

does anyone know if it's going to be a problem that my health records won't be in by July 1?

alchemist, what have you heard anything about pbl?


I'm not alchemist but I applied to the PBLC. If you haven't yet applied, I would call the PBLC program to let them know you'll be submitting an app ASAP. And if you have applied/interviewed, good luck! Maybe we'll see each other in small group. :)

is anyone able to access the email through the umdnj portal?

Yes, I can. If you aren't able to access e-mail w/your umdnj portal password you may need to reset your password entirely and then try again to log in. Worked for me after no success w/my portal pw.

does anyone know if it's going to be a problem that my health records won't be in by July 1?

I'd guess it's fine. It might be good to communicate that you're working on it.
I won't get my Ab results 'til Friday, so I plan to call health svcs to let them know I'm putting my physical exam records in the mail then.

Thanks a bunch for the response OMM. :)

Yeh my medical forms are going to be in right under the wire. I think I'll call the health department just to give them a heads up on when to expect things.

thanks so much for the info.

with the physicals, the most annoying part was the 2 pdds that we needed. i can understand one. but the second one? even my doc agrees one should suffice.


if u haven't had a recent ppd (say like a year ago), u have 2 do the 2-step ppd b/c the 1st test may b a false negative. some ppl who've had TB years ago (or even a recent infection) may have an attenuated or delayed response 2 the 1st ppd and come out negative. so the 1st ppd acts as a booster 2 stimulate the immune system 2 react 2 the tuberculin on the 2nd ppd if indeed u truly r a "delayed or attenuated" positive. hope this explains it better.

if u haven't had a recent ppd (say like a year ago), u have 2 do the 2-step ppd b/c the 1st test may b a false negative. some ppl who've had TB years ago (or even a recent infection) may have an attenuated or delayed response 2 the 1st ppd and come out negative. so the 1st ppd acts as a booster 2 stimulate the immune system 2 react 2 the tuberculin on the 2nd ppd if indeed u truly r a "delayed or attenuated" positive. hope this explains it better.


wow that's really interesting. makes much more sense, thanks. yeh, the last ppd that i had was in winter of 2004...so not so recent i guess.

i'm going to call the technical people tomorrow to ask about a password reset.

another question: so my current laptop = really old. i got it in 2001. so needless to say, i'm shopping around for a new laptop b/c my old run is not capable of running xp or any normal program and is just really old. what is everyone doing? are you going through the dell program. i love dells so am either going through this program or buying on my own.

i think i saw that nate mentioned about pdas. these are necessary? i'm not too read up about them and not sure where to start in the market (from what's a good one, what do i need, how much to spend...) do most students have pdas?

i'm going to call the technical people tomorrow to ask about a password reset.

another question: so my current laptop = really old. i got it in 2001. so needless to say, i'm shopping around for a new laptop b/c my old run is not capable of running xp or any normal program and is just really old. what is everyone doing? are you going through the dell program. i love dells so am either going through this program or buying on my own.

i think i saw that nate mentioned about pdas. these are necessary? i'm not too read up about them and not sure where to start in the market (from what's a good one, what do i need, how much to spend...) do most students have pdas?

i got an email with a link 2 myumdnj web portal (or banweb or whatever it is called). i instinctively typed in my usual password (w/o knowing that it would work or thinking) and it did work and then was led 2 a link that asked me 2 choose a new password. i know someone else called the tech office and they reset the pwd so she can use hers now. they sent a couple of administrative emails already, one about parking handtags but the transportation office told me that incoming first years can get parking tags when we get our picture ids during o-week when i called about it. i wasn't going 2 get a pda until i really need it (prob 3rd year 4 rotations). un4tunate 4 me i got a mac laptop last year (always been a pc person but a long story) so i'll just have 2 run bootcamp if i need 2 use xp. i used 2 have a dell but the hard drive fried 3 times - thank god i had the warranty and they have good service. ibm's r pretty good and give an educational discount i think.

i'm going to call the technical people tomorrow to ask about a password reset.


From my.umdnj: "Use the My Account link (under the UMDNJ logo on the Welcome Tab) or the Forgot Password feature (on the login page) to implement a reset."

I went through My Account and it worked like a charm.

i think i saw that nate mentioned about pdas. these are necessary? i'm not too read up about them and not sure where to start in the market (from what's a good one, what do i need, how much to spend...) do most students have pdas?

i wouldn't worry about getting a pda. you definitely don't need it now. most students in first and second year do not have them. personally i feel it makes more sense to get one at the start of clinical rotations.

does any of the upperclassmates know if there is an advantage in learning from pbl? i took science classes that were pbl and some of them i learned a ton more and others no. personally, i think it depended on the professor and the students with whom i was discussing.

i wonder if i should get a roommate? i understand that the first year is rough so there are pros to being alone but on the other hand it would get lonely.

pbl has its pros and cons. the upside of pbl is tht there is much less class time and you can learn at your own pace. there is also much merit to case based learning. there is an opportunity to learn cases in a multidisciplinary format covering many areas and subjects. some of the disadvantages however of pbl are that you don't get the same social environment of the regular curriculum, and you also are not under the same pressure to keep up as the testing is different, you don't have regular tests and quizzes which basically force you to study and keep up. instead pbl students learn and maintain their own pace but are responsible for knowing an equal amount at the end of sections. so i would agree, its completely an individual thing, based on an individuals learning preferences.

as for roommates, i live with 2 other fellow classmates in a three bedroom apt at echelon glen. having roommates is pretty nice, i think we pay amongst the least in rent and all of our utilities are split 3 ways. plus, its nice to have people to study with or have a social outlet.

if you're still looking for a room mate, and can't find somebody on the forum, feel free to call up the admissions office, they're keeping lists of people seeking roommates.

I was under the impression SOM has a Honors/Pass/Fail grading system. In browsing the student handbook I notice that the grading system is Honors/High Pass/Pass/Low Pass/Fail. Is that correct?

I'm encountering a few bumps in the long-distance apt hunt (thanks a MILLION to alchemist for sharing her experiences w/me), so of course I figured reading the student handbook would be better than thinking about apt options when all the mgmt offices are closed for the night. :laugh:

Speaking of the apt search, do any students live in apts that are not in Echelon Glen-style communities? Here in Oak-town there are many independently owned and managed freestanding apt bldgs each w/20-50 units (some are nice, others are sketch-to-the-max). Is this true of the Stratford area?

Does Echelon Glen have elevators or just stairs? If no elevators, do any of the apartment complexes have elevators? I like to take stairs but was reminded today of how helpful an elevator is for moving heavy things.

Thanks!

Sorry, no elevators to speak of. You could follow in our footsteps and live on the first floor. Or you could get your classmates to do all the lifting for you. I'll volunteer our esteemed class president since he likes to volunteer me for things. :D

Thanks for offering the moving services of your class president, Kevbot! ;) I will definitely live on the first floor. I'm looking for a 2-bdrm which limits my prospects somewhat. If anyone hears of a decent first floor 2-bdrm please let me know!

I might also settle for a 1-bdrm short term lease and then move when my bf arrives in December, but I hate to spend a chunk of winter break packing and moving.

Yep the grading system is Honors/High Pass/Pass/Low Pass/Fail. In general though board exams mean more than mcats and grades mean less than gpa because medical schools scoring systems tend to vary significantly. I went with a single room, but figure if i find a friend that wants to I can always move in somewhere nicer with him/her my second year. From what I have heard Stratford is a small safe area. Its nothing like living in philly. I can tell you Brookview Manor is 1 mile from the school and gave a pretty good price. Its not as nice as the cherry hill or vorhees places of course, but it was 730ish/ month for a single. The thing is hot water, heat, and the stove are all gas and don't count toward the eletric bill. So all you have is gas, internet, cable and your cell phone. Out of curiosity anyone else staying there?

Yep the grading system is Honors/High Pass/Pass/Low Pass/Fail.

Very interesting grading scale. But does anyone ever actually FAIL?

Yep the grading system is Honors/High Pass/Pass/Low Pass/Fail. In general though board exams mean more than mcats and grades mean less than gpa because medical schools scoring systems tend to vary significantly.

u mean mcat scores and college gpas come back? 2 whom? my mcat score is fine but i don't want my college gpa 2 come back and haunt me when i try 2 match - i was hoping everything from now on would b a clean slate and would all b on me w/o my craptastic college grades following me around 4ever. i didn't think anyone would look at mcat scores again either, not that it matters. how do we get a gpa if we r basically HH/H/P/LP/F? unless that converts 2 A/B/C/D/F? what do schools with only honors and P/F do?

No no sorry I probably should of made that more clear :) College gpas and mcats don't come back into the picture. What I meant was for getting residencies as opposed to getting into medschool. For residencies, our next real step, board exam scores carry more weight along with experience and our medschool grades carry less weight. I was trying to say boards mean more for residencies than mcat did to get into medschool and that medschool grades mean less for residencies than our gpas did getting into medschool. What I was trying to say is each medschool uses a different grading system. Some are just pass fail. Some have honors, high honors, etc and each school uses different cut off ranges. To be honest I don't know if there is a real medschool gpa. I do know that long as you aren't failing the grades don't mean all that much though. Hope that helps clear up what I said.

No no sorry I probably should of made that more clear :) College gpas and mcats don't come back into the picture. What I meant was for getting residencies as opposed to getting into medschool. For residencies, our next real step, board exam scores carry more weight along with experience and our medschool grades carry less weight. I was trying to say boards mean more for residencies than mcat did to get into medschool and that medschool grades mean less for residencies than our gpas did getting into medschool. What I was trying to say is each medschool uses a different grading system. Some are just pass fail. Some have honors, high honors, etc and each school uses different cut off ranges. To be honest I don't know if there is a real medschool gpa. I do know that long as you aren't failing the grades don't mean all that much though. Hope that helps clear up what I said.

thx scorcher. that does clear it up. i had nightmares of my gpa chasing me til death do us part sorta thing at first. yeah, i've heard the same, 2 get residencies certain things count more than ur grades - board scores r at the top. i dunno as much 4 DO but 4 MD ortho (since i had an interest b4), u also pretty much need 2 b AOA (honor society), have stellar recs, and sometimes research. dunno if its the same 4 DO since sigma sigma phi isn't really considered all that much of an achievement in DO circles as AOA is in MD ones. plus, i know someone who didn't do stellar in grades (mostly passes at an MD school), almost failed biochem, but got over 95%iles on step I and II, did awesome in clinicals and got great recs, and got into harvard 4 her MD residency (and harvard was like 6th best program in her specialty). so i guess u're on spot there

Honestly I can't say if people fail, but I know that some schools if you low pass or fail will let you retake the course or get special tutoring. When you eventually pass it the low pass/fail disappears and all it shows is that you passed. I don't know what UMDNJ-SOM's policy is on though. Umdnj-som has one of the highest average mcats scores and gpas though and only about 100 seats, which indicates to me that they hand picked a lot of their students because they had faith in them. So in all honesty I doubt that people fail if they work at the class. I'm sure if there were any circumstances that caused you to do poorly such as family problems, pregnancy, etc, they would meet with you about them.

Is the student handbook online?

It does seem like the SOM grading system is similar to the traditional grading system of a's b's c's....

So, I just called the technical office. I have to go through this crazy reset process in order to be able to access my acct but hopefully I will soon enough. I couldn't reset my password b/c I never technically even logged in initially. SO yeh it stinks. Thanks for the info on the pda, yeh I'm not going to get one if it's not necessary. Sooo I think I'll pass on that one.

Is the student handbook online?

It does seem like the SOM grading system is similar to the traditional grading system of a's b's c's....

So, I just called the technical office. I have to go through this crazy reset process in order to be able to access my acct but hopefully I will soon enough. I couldn't reset my password b/c I never technically even logged in initially. SO yeh it stinks. Thanks for the info on the pda, yeh I'm not going to get one if it's not necessary. Sooo I think I'll pass on that one.

on the som website: som education > academic prgms > UG med educ > UMDNJ-SOM Education Handbook. it downloads as a pdf. its 4 years 2004-2006. guess they'll need 2 revise a new one 4 this year but it still has alot of good info in there.

How did everyone get an account password (portal)? I have my UIN for my login, but I cant reset because i never logged in yet. I called the office and they said we would be getting them in the mail. For some reason it seems like everyone has them already though. Is there a way admissions can just tell me my password?

How did everyone get an account password (portal)? I have my UIN for my login, but I cant reset because i never logged in yet. I called the office and they said we would be getting them in the mail. For some reason it seems like everyone has them already though. Is there a way admissions can just tell me my password?

actually i never received a letter in the mail. i got an email. but call the tech ppl and ask 2 reset ur pwd

yeh scorcher it seems like your in the same sort of predicament as me. unfortunately you have to call the technical people and give them your info.

thanks for the info re: handbook.

i am getting sooo excited for school. although i still need to get an apartment, move in and buy a computer. :rolleyes: but we have time still....

Hi Everyone!! I'm Danielle and I'm another member of the Class of 2010! First of all, I just want to say that I hope I'm doing this right... I have no idea if this post will end up in the right place but I'm hoping for the best!!

I'm a native Jerseygirl from the Shore (therefore greatly upset about the current weather situation) and I just graduated from The College of New Jersey this May. I've experienced all of the email/my.UMDNJ/account issues that I've read about above and I agree with the advice to just call the tech people-they're pretty cool and willing to help us all out. However, I still can't access my email so that will be next on the list of things to do... after I find a place to live which brings me to my purpose for registering with studentdoctor.net...

Does anyone still need a roommate? I'm desperate to not pay for a single and I'm pretty flexible... except I really really don't want to live with a smoker... anything else can be figured out later...

ok, so here's the deal with the grading system. yes, its honors/high pass/pass/low pass. but that means its not really pass/fail. its essentially like, a,b,c etc.

does everyone get honors, no. there are people that low pass or even fail a class. it happens, the schedule can be demanding, and people have all kinds of vaious personal situations and influences. there are however opportunities to remediate, (take another exam to move a grade up to low pass) and the policies regarding failing classes are detailed in the student handbook.

but don't worry, im not trying to scare you at all. though you have to work hard, its very possible to do well and maintain good grades. so just stay consistent, and you'll be more than fine.

the grades are not competitive, as in there's no curve, there's no set number of people that can get honors, or have to only get a pass or low pass. its all based on what you earn. its nice, so you're not competing with your classmates for grades. this creates a nice environment, people are always willing to help each other here and share notes and materials.

For anyone else who was wondering how to get into their umdnj portal the username is your last name followed by the first letter of your first name and your middle initial. For example if your name was john anthony smith it would be smithja. Your password is umd(4 digit year you were born)(2 digit date you were born). Now for the question. Does anyone know what the default email password is? I tried the default password for portal and it diddnt work. I also tried the new password that i changed the portal one too and that diddnt work either. So does anyone know the system for email passwords or don't we have them yet?

For anyone else who was wondering how to get into their umdnj portal the username is your last name followed by the first letter of your first name and your middle initial. For example if your name was john anthony smith it would be smithja. Your password is umd(4 digit year you were born)(2 digit date you were born). Now for the question. Does anyone know what the default email password is? I tried the default password for portal and it diddnt work. I also tried the new password that i changed the portal one too and that diddnt work either. So does anyone know the system for email passwords or don't we have them yet?

I have never used any default pw for the portal. I followed the initial instructions to set up the my.umdnj account and set my own pw. That pw worked for the portal but didn't work when I tried to access e-mail. Tech Svcs had me completely reset my pw, at which point I was able to access both the portal and e-mail. Once everything is properly set up, you will have a single pw for e-mail, the portal, and other UMDNJ svc that require a pw.

I have never used any default pw for the portal. I followed the initial instructions to set up the my.umdnj account and set my own pw. That pw worked for the portal but didn't work when I tried to access e-mail. Tech Svcs had me completely reset my pw, at which point I was able to access both the portal and e-mail. Once everything is properly set up, you will have a single pw for e-mail, the portal, and other UMDNJ svc that require a pw.


OMM when you reset, was that where you had to fax a pic id and other sorts of info? That's what I just had to do...

OMM when you reset, was that where you had to fax a pic id and other sorts of info? That's what I just had to do...

I didn't have to do that, but I was already able to access the portal, so I was able to reset my pw via the portal using the process I referred to several posts ago. I hope you get access soon, if you haven't already. You haven't missed much, but it'll be good to have e-mail access for when we do need it!

hey to avoid sending all that stuff into ist I had to use the default password that i spoke of before. When I did that it automatically had me set a new password, which i did. For some reason that was just for portal though, but when i reset that password like you guys said it reset all my passwords including my email one so its all good now. It's so weird that I basically had to reset it twice, but oh well. Thanks!

Does anyone reading this thread live at Timber Ridge? If so, how much do utilities cost (on average? in the coldest/warmest months?). Are the places well-insulated and are the windows tightly sealed? Every apt I've rented in CA has had very leaky windows (one place had a breeze in my room when it was windy!).

How do you like living at Timber Ridge? Is it worth paying a bit more than at Echelon Glen for a 2-bdrm? I'm not able to visit apts before signing on the dotted line, so I really appreciate your input!

I talked to Elaine(?) in the office and she seemed incredibly nice and helpful. I can't say I've felt that at every management office I've called.

Timber Ridge? Now ANOTHER potential apartment complex??? Can someone just TELL me where to live! haha!

Timber Ridge? Now ANOTHER potential apartment complex??? Can someone just TELL me where to live! haha!

me, 3! right now its b/t stonington and echelon glen 4 me cuz i'm getting tired of taking time off from work 2 drive around 2 look at apts. paula suggested that alot of students also live in pine hill gardens b/c its spacious and cheap, but alas no pets :(. stonington (5 min from som) on laurel road has 1 bdrms slightly smaller than echelon glen but larger than the village 1 bdrms. 665/mo 4 1 bdrm and 715/mo for 1 bdrm with a small den to the side (extra 71 sq ft). extra storage closet in both 1 and 2 bdrms. laundry is 1.25/load unless u get a 2 bdrm townhouse, they have w/d in the unit. area seemed safe but i went during the day. i liked echelon glen but unless i get a roomie, i think it'll b diff 2 pay 4 a 1 bdrm just from stafford loans (just like in grad school, i'm going 2 b paying off the interest that accrues on my unsub loans so that they don't grow 2 big so i need 2 save at least $100/mo). they allow umdnj'er 2 give just a 150 security dep instead of 1 month's rent. $35 app fee.

visited chalet gardens in pine hill (10 min drive 2 som w/o traffic) cuz other students live there. the rooms r fairly ample but i got a weird vibe since so many apts were vacant (dunno why the leasing agent told me this), the quietest place i've visited so far 4 obvious reasons. they give $50 off a month 4 umdnj'ers who sign a yr lease. 1 bdrms were 720-750/mo (only diff is whether u get upgraded apt or not) and they had an extra utility room with large full-sized washer and dryer. area seemed a little isolated esp if u come home alone late at night. $25 app 4 umdnj'ers.

also visited chadwick village (5 min from som w/o traffic) on laurel road (they also manage laurel hill on chews landing where the rooms r smaller and they don't have a model 2 show). bdrm was large but rest of apt was kinda old. 1 bdrm 1st floor 649/mo and 1 bdrm upper floor 669/mo. no w/d in unit. near laurel road and chews landing intersection so near an active area so doesn't seem like it would b isolated at night. no student discounts.

ok, so you guys have gotten a somewhat skewed view of where we all live. echelon glenn/village area does have a lot of students, but i think a disproportionate number of people who post on here happen to live there. i would say stonington has the largest number of SOM students, followed by echelon glenn and timber ridge.

timber ridge is also a very nice place to live. many students live there. timber ridge is condo style town houses. basically for around the same price as echelon glen, you're getting a two-story unit. the downstairs contains a living room, washroom, full kitchen, and laundry facilities, and the upstairs contains the bedrooms and a full bathroom. the units are quite nice. the utilities in timber ridge are a little bit more expensive than some of the other apartments, since you're paying for heating or a/c for a larger unit.

ornis is moving to timber ridge. timber ridge has doubles and triples and they have a outdoor pool there too, but no gym like echelon glen.

You also pay for water at Timber Ridge.

just curious...who did everyone go for their stafford loans lender? the default for som is medloans administered by sallie mae. i did some calculations and it looks like unless u pay off in <5 yrs, that the 3.3% off after 33 on-time payments 4 medloans isn't better than the 1.3% monthly credit that t.h.e. gives so right now i'm leaning 2ward t.h.e. (total higher education) since it will take me >5 yrs 2 pay off my loans - i still have 4k in ug loans and 24k in grad loans in addition 2 our medical school ones. i know that both medloans and t.h.e. both also do residency/relocation loans as well. i've heard that t.h.e. staff isn't as customer friendly but if i'm paying less in the end, i guess i could deal a not so snazzy website or staff issues.

the finaid office told me that they are making the awards official in the next 2-3 weeks, so if i wanted 2 change my lender from medloans 2 t.h.e., that i had 2 write them a letter stating so w/in this time frame (soon, the next couple of weeks). anyone have any comments on medloans vs t.h.e.? i know its been done 2 death on the finaid 4rum but just wondering what other umdnj'ers thought.

I don't know if there is still availability, but a lot of students live at the Landings. You all still looking for places may want to look there too. You can look at previous posts about what I've said about the apartments I looked at when I was looking for apts.

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I personally live at timber ridge with two roommates since first year and it was great. I live with a guy and girl and share a bathroom with a girl so its not that bad. The average ultilites in the winter for electricity and water are 250 and 24 respectively. However the summer months the water stays the same but the electricity (and gas) drops down to 80. If your wondering at how safe it is, I will say that (knock on wood) no student from timber ridgge has had their apartment broken in yet. The other places I know had break ins. Timber ridge is also where they pre salt the parking lot and do a pretty good job on plowing. Also rent is 1050 a month there (for 3 people) and its the cheapest out of all of them. You'll like this cost considering everyone else will be broke near the ned of the year.

I hope this helps.

Hey everyone,

i know this is a little off topic. but first, just wanted to say Hiii to everyone before starting next month. I didn't get to meet too many people on Accepted Students Day but i'm really looking forward to meeting everyone during Orientation week.

I can't remember if someone answered this already, but I was wondering if someone could answer this for me. Are lectures recorded? I was going to purchase a digital voice recorder, and was wondering if any of the current students had any recommendations..i found a lot of them to be by Olympus..so if anyone can give any feedback it would be greatly appreciated. thanks so much!!

Hey everyone,
i know this is a little off topic. but first, just wanted to say Hiii to everyone before starting next month. I didn't get to meet too many people on Accepted Students Day but i'm really looking forward to meeting everyone during Orientation week.

I can't remember if someone answered this already, but I was wondering if someone could answer this for me. Are lectures recorded? I was going to purchase a digital voice recorder, and was wondering if any of the current students had any recommendations..i found a lot of them to be by Olympus..so if anyone can give any feedback it would be greatly appreciated. thanks so much!!

hi dreamz912 :) .i dunno what the upperclassmen will say but the tour guide at my interview said that her class recorded the lectures (i can't remember if she was a 1st or 2nd yr) but no video and if i remember correctly, they didn't have a scribe service 2 transcribe them - u just had the audio that u could access. i think that this is an issue decided upon 2gether as a class (?) is also what she said.

hi dreamz912 :) .i dunno what the upperclassmen will say but the tour guide at my interview said that her class recorded the lectures (i can't remember if she was a 1st or 2nd yr) but no video and if i remember correctly, they didn't have a scribe service 2 transcribe them - u just had the audio that u could access. i think that this is an issue decided upon 2gether as a class (?) is also what she said.

That's what I remember being told. I think last year the 1st years didn't have a scribe service but the class before them did.

That's what I remember being told. I think last year the 1st years didn't have a scribe service but the class before them did.

We (2009) decided not to do scribes because someone in our class got the lectures recorded and posted online. You can choose to do scribes but if your class chooses to record the lectures there is really no point. We recorded them with our laptops and a direct mic feed.

Congrats to everyone accepted to the class of 2010! I'm hoping to be a part of the class of 2011, so I have a quick question...

For at least the first 2 years, is a 45min (35mi) commute to SOM too far?

Thanks

Congrats to everyone accepted to the class of 2010! I'm hoping to be a part of the class of 2011, so I have a quick question...

For at least the first 2 years, is a 45min (35mi) commute to SOM too far?

Thanks

You could theoretically do it and still get good grades. I know I waste way more than an hour and a half every day. On the other hand, that is valuable time that could be spent studying, shadowing, or living your life. Only do it if its absolutely neccesary.

I have to agree with Kevbot. Heck You can drive 2 hrs everyday and be fine, I wouldn't actually worry too much about that. Anyone who wants to do well can do well. Anyone that made it this far has the potential plus some. The question you need to ask yourself is why am I driving that far and is the reason worth it. If it’s to live with a spouse or a significant other it is probably worth it to you. If it’s just to save a few hundred off rent a month it might not be worth it at all. Take into account wear and tear on your car, additional gas, etc. Also don't forget about rush hour. If it will take you 45 minutes to get to class during rush hour that’s not too bad. However, if that 45 minute drive is on weekends or in the middle of the day, you may want to try the trip when you'd actually be going to classes. You could potentially be doubling that time especially when there are traffic jams etc (depending where you are coming from). Good luck and do what feels right for you.

thanks kevbot and scorcher...u both gave me some things to think about. now all i have to do is get accepted to umdnj-som! :)

Hey, all! I thought it was about time to say "hello" to my fellow 2010ers. I'm so excited for August...less than a month to go! :scared: Just curious, did anyone receive an orientation schedule yet? I'm guessing they'll send it soon. Also, we can't start using the YMCA gym until we get our IDs during orientation, right? I'd love to start establishing a workout routine while I'm still well rested and motivated! :)

Nope no orientation schedule yet. Even when we do get one there will probably be a lot more going on behind the scenes. I have a feeling we will find most of it out when orientation begins. Someone fill me in the the YMCA thing? Do students get a discount at a YMCA gym or are you talking about UMDNJ-SOM's gym? I'm prob just going to pay the $85 a year for UMDNJ's because im lazy, but what does YMCA's year membership for UMDNJ-SOM students cost? Oh and how do we go about getting parking passes? Do you think its ok if we wait until orientation to do that?

Nope no orientation schedule yet. Even when we do get one there will probably be a lot more going on behind the scenes. I have a feeling we will find most of it out when orientation begins. Someone fill me in the the YMCA thing? Do students get a discount at a YMCA gym or are you talking about UMDNJ-SOM's gym? I'm prob just going to pay the $85 a year for UMDNJ's because im lazy, but what does YMCA's year membership for UMDNJ-SOM students cost? Oh and how do we go about getting parking passes? Do you think its ok if we wait until orientation to do that?

the transit office told me that incoming students will take care of getting parking handtags when we get our picture ids during o-week. i think that umdnj students can use the gym at the closest YMCA for free (?) or a discount as a student. SOM's gym is the one at the school but since its not that large, many students go 2 the Y. i didn't realize we needed 2 pay $85 2 use the SOM gym? did u guys send back ur "big" (sib) questionnaires yet?

As far as I know SOM students can use the nearest YMCA (5 min away on Burnt Mill Road) for free. I think you have to pay a small membership to use the gym at the school. (YMCA sounds better to me because there's no pool at the school) :p

Can anyone tell me who can access the my portal and/or email if there has been any important emails sent out? If so, what were they?

Oh my geez, I am having the worst luck with my.umdnj. I've called the technical people so many times, they reset my password, I try it and still can't get in. They told me that they have no idea what's going on...that usually by the first reset things should work. :(

I'm going to try the tech people again on Wednesday. Hopefully, the issue will be resolved and I can log-in soon.

No...I haven't filled in the big siblings paperwork. But looking at it definitely made me excited. hehe. I haven't received the orientation schedule either. I've checked online and the upcoming school calendar is also not up and running yet. I guess soon enough we'll know.

Can anyone tell me who can access the my portal and/or email if there has been any important emails sent out? If so, what were they?

Oh my geez, I am having the worst luck with my.umdnj. I've called the technical people so many times, they reset my password, I try it and still can't get in. They told me that they have no idea what's going on...that usually by the first reset things should work. :(

I'm going to try the tech people again on Wednesday. Hopefully, the issue will be resolved and I can log-in soon.

No...I haven't filled in the big siblings paperwork. But looking at it definitely made me excited. hehe. I haven't received the orientation schedule either. I've checked online and the upcoming school calendar is also not up and running yet. I guess soon enough we'll know.

no real important emails yet. they sent sth about renewing parking handtags but when i called up, they said incoming students take care of that during o-week when we get our pic ids (in the same office). mostly, they send a weekly link 2 a umndj newsletter w/ articles about the school's achievements, etc. u can join the various newsgroups on myumdnj (class of 2010, 2009, etc) including clubs (click the arrow next 2 the SOM folder) 4 certain specialties (pm&r, ortho, cardio, peds, etc). no orientation schedule here either. probably in the next couple of weeks we'll get alot of mailings :). i hope u get ur email and myumdnj stuff worked out on wed.

ok, so i think i decided on vorhees. is echelon the only complex there?

there's also the village at voorhees

ok, so i think i decided on vorhees. is echelon the only complex there?

echelon glen and the village r basically right next 2 each other, on either side of echelon/somerdale road leading 2 the echelon mall. echelon glen's rooms are slightly larger and cheaper than the village but the village has a small stackable half load washer/dryer in each unit. echelon glen will give 1 months rent off if u tell them u r a student while the village only waives ur $45 app fee. at echelon glen, u gotta pay gas and electric. burnt mill apartments is on burnt mill road - i think that's part of voorhees (maybe) or right next 2 it - didn't check it out so i can't comment.

i decided on lindenwold cuz i couldn't make the numbers work in voorhees 4 a 1 bdrm with my expenses (cats, paying off interest on unsub loans while in school, etc) but i do know that other ppl did make it work and live alone. i ended up applying 4 a 1 bdrm with den at stonington (only pay electric and still more than $100 less than echelon glen's 1 bdrm deal right now). good luck with the apt and italy in the world cup!

yeh i also decided on voorhees. i checked at a bunch of apartment complexes in the area and liked echelon glenn the best (although i didn't check out burnt mill apts?)

like alchemist said, the village and echelon are literally right next to each other. i also was deciding between the village and echelon. while the village does have a washer/dryer combo in the apt itself, the downside with the apt. is that it has electric heat and is a tiny bit more expensive. with echelon the washer/dryers on the 2nd floor of each complex, but like someone said the apts are a bit bigger than the rooms at the village and it also runs on gas heat which is a big plus for me. the deal with the one month's rent off is that they'll take for instance 11 monthly payments and divide it pay 12. so that instead of having one month totally payment free you will be paying a little less each month. really either apt complex is nice, it's just in the little things that they are different.

YMCA - free to all students, pool, racquetball courts, cardio, free weights, machines, basketball courts

gym at school is nice if you want to spend a lot of time at the school or don't live in voorhees (basically a driving distance issue).

You guys will most likely be able to mp3 all lectures. Some people in my class lived off of scribes, I did it and really didn't find it that helpful as I just don't learn from written prose, outline format works best for me.

Listening to the mp3s on your commute may be helpful or if you miss a class you'll have the mp3 plus the powerpoint - basically like being at class.

J

i'm going to be making a drive down to check out those two apartments in vorhees either tomorrow or thursday. and just an update for everyone, ITALY will be advancing to the championship round!!! :D

Ralph B.
Villanova University '05
http://www.myspace.com/rbflick120
http://groups.myspace.com/umdnjsom2010

wooohooo! i got into email. after 3 resets, i'm finally in. ha, i'm so glad that the little things give me such enjoyment. :D

i'm going to be making a drive down to check out those two apartments in vorhees either tomorrow or thursday. and just an update for everyone, ITALY will be advancing to the championship round!!! :D

Ralph B.
Villanova University '05
http://www.myspace.com/rbflick120
http://groups.myspace.com/umdnjsom2010

yeah, and i'm betting italy will play france...though i thought germany would beat italy (no offense). the germans must b heartbroken, after all, its on their turf and maybe they were hoping they'd win like the french did when the WC was in france. i'd also advise just checking out as many places as u can when u come down so that u can compare and don't 4get 2 ask 4 student discounts cuz alot of them do give sth 2 umdnj'ers!

dude, since the red devils won't b doing it, i hope italy takes it all! :D

I'm pullin' for france - they are the only squad representing india! :thumbup:


http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/fo/profiles/2641.html

i'm heading to campus tomorrow morning around 9am. should be there by 1030am. everyone'll recognize my car by the italian flags painted on either side. ;) i'm going to check out the village and echelon when i get there. if anyone wants to grab a bite to eat, leave me a cell number and we can meet up. also, if anyone else knows any places i should DEFINATELY check out, let me know. for now, off to bed!

Ralph B.
Villanova University '05
http://www.myspace.com/rbflick120
http://groups.myspace.com/umdnjsom2010

i'm heading to campus tomorrow morning around 9am. should be there by 1030am. everyone'll recognize my car by the italian flags painted on either side. ;) i'm going to check out the village and echelon when i get there. if anyone wants to grab a bite to eat, leave me a cell number and we can meet up. also, if anyone else knows any places i should DEFINATELY check out, let me know. for now, off to bed!

Ralph B.
Villanova University '05
http://www.myspace.com/rbflick120
http://groups.myspace.com/umdnjsom2010

u def will stick out cuz we do not pimp our rides with flags of diff countries down here :D. as i predicted, france will play italy, that should b interesting, esp since the germans hate the french and the WC is in germany after all.

check out places in lindenwold near the school side (not 2 far away though) where other students live - kingsrow on chews landing (i didn't like the layout but u might), timber ridge on west park off of chews landing (only if u wanna have a roommate cuz they're 2 bdrm townhomes), stonington is at 1800 laurel road (just past chews landings and opposite direction from school as voorhees, but the same 5 min drive). chadwick village is on laurel road and past chews landing right b4 stonington. if u keep going past lindenwold, u'll hit pine hill and the blackwood-clementon area (lakeview is here) - a little far and a little isolated 4 me but maybe not 4 u. stay away from the pines, woodmere, i heard landings had some fires as well. someone else in our class had suggested brookview manor (i never checked it out cuz they require cats 2 b declawed) in stratford. if u need the apartment list, there's one under files under the SOM 2010 newsgroup on myumdnj as well as on the SOM website somewhere or u could stop by school and pick up a copy from paula's secretary, jennifer schevlin. good luck! i'd meet up with all of u but i work in philly during the day (unless i go into work late cuz the boss is on vacation :) )

everyone'll recognize my car by the italian flags painted on either side. ;)

Haha - very cool! I plan on painting my face with the Italian flag & sporting all the "France sucks" gear I can dig up. Forza Italia!

Vedo che avete studiato l'italiano all’universita…magari possiamo parlare qualche volta!

Haha - very cool! I plan on painting my face with the Italian flag & sporting all the "France sucks" gear I can dig up. Forza Italia!

Vedo che avete studiato l'italiano all’universita…magari possiamo parlare qualche volta!

certo!!! i miei sono dalla calabria. io, invece, sono nato qui negli stati uniti. l'inglese di mio padre non 'e tanto bene, quindi ci parliamo speso in italiano. speriamo di incontrarci!!!

and about the apartment situation... i drove down to stratford today. got caught in STAND STILL traffic on the jersey turnpike. damn overturned tractor trailer closed off the southern end of the highway. i had to take 195W to 295S. anyway. i ended up checking out echelon first. i LOVE it. the only thing that's discouraging is that you have to pay for gas and electric. is the same true at the village? other than that, nice area, etc. i drove over to cherry hill and saw a few from the outside. each runs over $1000/month. can someone just convince me to put in a deposit at echelon so i can get this over with????

Ralph B.
Villanova University '05
http://www.myspace.com/rbflick120
http://groups.myspace.com/umdnjsom2010

:rolleyes: Does anyone know if there is an intramural soccer league????????


Please tell me that there is one...

hey tones, glad to hear you play soccer. a bunch of people somewhat regularly get together to play pickup games. there are leagues within the area also including an indoor place that has leagues. there's definitely enough interest to start an actual intramural league.

oh and its official, we're having a world cup party and bbq on sunday in echelon glen. if you're around, please feel free to come out, should be a lot of fun. pm me for details,

is the same true at the village?[/url]

I'm at the Village, and we pay electric - but no gas.

Hope that helps! =)

I'm at the Village, and we pay electric - but no gas.

Hope that helps! =)

What is the rent for a one bedroom?

It's all relative in the Village. No, there's no gas, but your electric bills will be extremely high through the winter no matter what you do. So the utilities between the Village and Echelon are basically a wash. You do get your own washer/dryer in the Village, but that's really the only difference. Same location, basically same quality and price range. You'll be surrounded by classmates in either community.

As for intramural soccer...as PE mentioned, there is strong interest in soccer in our school, though I'm not sure we have the numbers to form an actual league. Nonetheless, we do try and organize various games from time to time...soccer, basketball, football, softball. You'll get emails about it whenever we have something in mind, and you can obviously email us if you're trying to put something together as well.

I got caught in that Turnpike traffic yesterday too...I hate driving on that road during the Summer.

What is the rent for a one bedroom?

They start at $825, but we got an "upgrade" model for $895 instead. The complex itself is REALLY nice - 2 pools, 2 fitness centers (one is 24-hours, the other is open until 11), 2 tennis courts, commons area with Fax/Internet/Copy access, BBQs, jogging trail, etc.

It's a tad pricey, but having a W/D in each unit is worth it, and everything is electric and not gas. Plus, you have Target and everything right next door.

Haha, they should be paying me for this pitch!

Pics: http://www.4wallsinnj.com/camdenco/villagevoorhees/villagevoorheespics.htm

Hey all,

I recently got in off the waitlist. Now, I have to race to figure things out before school starts, and I am working. I was wondering if any females are looking for a roommate. I am a 23 yr.old female (tomorrow) from NY. It will be hard for me to look at places b/w now and when we have to be there by the end of the month. If anyone has not figured out their housing situation yet, please let me know. My email is apricot0708@yahoo.com. I look forward to meeting you all. I appreciate any help and/or advice.

Melissa

Hey all,

I recently got in off the waitlist. Now, I have to race to figure things out before school starts, and I am working. I was wondering if any females are looking for a roommate. I am a 23 yr.old female (tomorrow) from NY. It will be hard for me to look at places b/w now and when we have to be there by the end of the month. If anyone has not figured out their housing situation yet, please let me know. My email is apricot0708@yahoo.com. I look forward to meeting you all. I appreciate any help and/or advice.

Melissa

congrats and welcome. i'm still looking as well. had applied 4 a 1 bdrm at stonington but got the 411 from jaynine (thx gf) and also got a look at the list of number of police calls 4 each apt complex in lindenwold and am rethinking moving 2 echelon glen - glad i didn't hand in the non-ref dep at stonington.

the 2 complexes in voorhees (the village and echelon glen, which r literally on each side of the same road and next 2 each other and 5 min drive w/o traffic from school) r good choices if u're willing 2 budget since they r a little on the expensive side if u wanna live alone. with a roommate, they're actually reasonably priced (around $1000/mo 4 a 2 bdrm). alot of umdnj'ers live in either the village or echelon glen so u wouldn't b isolated in either one. i would find a roommate but i have 2 cats and am alot older than everyone else and been there, done that, with the drinking and partying scene (though this doesn't mean that i don't drink or party, just not like during college and grad school) so i might not b as fun 4 20 sths as a roommate so i've been looking 4 1 bdrms, and in the past, the majority of my roommates have been dudes - haven't seen any other non-trads on sdn yet so i'm gonna assume that i'll b 1 of the oldest in the incoming class. if u need some help, pls ask, i'll help whichever way i can since i live in the area and went 2 HS here as well (way back when). c u on july 30th. :) and oh, happy bday!

dup post

finally the saga of the apt search is over and i committed 2 a 1 bdrm at echelon glen 2day 2 move in anywhere b/t 8/9th to 8/12th - little more expensive than i originally wanted but safety and good management come first. and the parentals decided 2 kick in some dough (if i end up in trouble) after they heard that stonington had over 500 calls 2 the police last year. thx again jaynine 4 the heads up about their mgmt issues!

4 those still considering echelon glen (ralphie, u know u want 2 ;) , hope italy wins 2morrow), there r only 2 x 1 bdrms left at the discount $795/mo (unless more open up), #145-1 (ground floor, ready 7/21st) and #223-2 (ground floor, ready 8/8th). i think #125-7 was also open but costs more (2nd floor, $865?). i think the security deposit (market/orig rent) on all of these is $915. these r all in brick bldgs (bradford I style) b/t kirkbride and echelon roads.

there's a lakeside apt #247-5 (2nd floor, 8/11th) that should come out 2 about $820/mo with the umdnj student discount (1 month free). security dep on the lakeside apt is $895. this apt is in a wood bldg w/ bradford I style as well, off of van buren road and lucas lane.

so if any of u r thinking of echelon glen, seems the apts r going fast (though who knows, more may open up) - just thought i'd give u all a heads up.

you better not have taken the apartment i wanted!!!!!!! :mad:

Ralph B.
Villanova University '05
http://www.myspace.com/rbflick120
http://groups.myspace.com/umdnjsom2010

you better not have taken the apartment i wanted!!!!!!! :mad:

Ralph B.
Villanova University '05
http://www.myspace.com/rbflick120
http://groups.myspace.com/umdnjsom2010

uh, oh...ralphie's mad..which apt was that :rolleyes: ? sono così spiacente. i prob didn't take ur apt cuz i got one on the lakeside (not one of the discounted ones with the 795/mo deal - very few of those r left and they say those hardly open up, but i did get the umdnj student discount of 1 month off). its about $21 more a month on the lakeside but the parking sit doesn't seem as cramped and i met some cool neighbors in my bldg - one is starting his cardiology residency at cooper and went 2 rwjms and the other guy is what we affectionately refer 2 as an 'egg' and took time 2 talk 2 me even though he was on his way 2 his wedding in cape may - if u don't know, an egg is white on the outside, yellow on the inside (being from near fort rhee u should understand what this means)...hope u get the apt u want :) and that we'll b neighbors soon. just make sure 2 decide soon cuz i know that another sdn person sent a check in and by the time it got 2 the rental office, the apt was already taken.

uh, oh...ralphie's mad..which apt was that :rolleyes: ? sono così spiacente. i prob didn't take ur apt cuz i got one on the lakeside (not one of the discounted ones with the 795/mo deal - very few of those r left and they say those hardly open up, but i did get the umdnj student discount of 1 month off). its about $21 more a month on the lakeside but the parking sit doesn't seem as cramped and i met some cool neighbors in my bldg - one is starting his cardiology residency at cooper and went 2 rwjms and the other guy is what we affectionately refer 2 as an 'egg' and took time 2 talk 2 me even though he was on his way 2 his wedding in cape may - if u don't know, an egg is white on the outside, yellow on the inside (being from near fort rhee u should understand what this means)...hope u get the apt u want :) and that we'll b neighbors soon. just make sure 2 decide soon cuz i know that another sdn person sent a check in and by the time it got 2 the rental office, the apt was already taken.


:mad: the apartment i wanted is on the third floor.

:mad: the apartment i wanted is on the third floor.

the options that liz all gave me were either on the ground or 2nd floor. and i'm on the ground floor so ur apt is still there i would guess. i'd love the 3rd floor but they didn't tell me that any were open. so i dunno if that means there r no more 3rd floors left or maybe they were saving that one 4 u ;). i'd give them a call if i were u. i know that the 2 3rd floor apts in my bldg were recently rented - the cardio resident was just moving in and the egg soon-2-b-married dude moved in the last month i think he said. anyways, if u weren't looking on the side with the lake, then we're talking about diff apts anyways. hope u get the one u want dude...and a WC victory 2morrow...though zidane is retiring after this game...but he's already won a WC anyways.

"though zidane is retiring after this game...but he's already won a WC anyways"


Plainly stated: Zidane is the man.

"though zidane is retiring after this game...but he's already won a WC anyways"


Plainly stated: Zidane is the man.

oui, d'accord, zidane est l'homme.

:mad: the apartment i wanted is on the third floor.

Village has a non-upgrade 3rd floor available ($845 i think)...it's actually the one we were supposed to get, but 3 flights of stairs just plain sucks when moving furniture in, so we didn't take it.

Buona fortuna, il mio amico!

congratulazioni agli italiani! a 4th WC - guess the italians r creeping in on the brazilian record of 5 WCs.

i think zidane is a great player but dunno about that headbutting incident ;)

just one word: ITALIA!!!!!!

just one word: ITALIA!!!!!!

Abbiamo vinti!!!

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oh, tango... i think we're going to be great friends. :)

by the way, the apt at echelon glen has been confirmed. can't wait to meet everyone!

by the way, the apt at echelon glen has been confirmed. can't wait to meet everyone!

did u get the 3rd floor apt u wanted?

So... I have officially moved in and I'm looking forward to meeting everybody. If you are around and looking for beach buddy/Philly/anything else... give me a shout :-)

-Amy

So... I have officially moved in and I'm looking forward to meeting everybody. If you are around and looking for beach buddy/Philly/anything else... give me a shout :-)

-Amy

where are you living?

just got this today with the orientation packet. Anybody starting early on half.com to save money? I am afraid to buy things because I understand there will be some kind of big brother 2nd year donation program.

just got this today with the orientation packet. Anybody starting early on half.com to save money? I am afraid to buy things because I understand there will be some kind of big brother 2nd year donation program.

is it the same outdated book list that is under FILES on myumdnj/SOM class of 2010 group? guess i'll have some goodies waiting in the mail when i get home from work 2day. so how was israel?

Hey guys... they finally put out a "draft" schedule if y'all wanna check it out:

http://som.umdnj.edu/education/academic_program/undergrad/documents/YrIClassFall2006.pdf

Looks like it's almost time to get serious! I'll be in Ireland for a week or so, but I look forward to meeting all of you very soon, enjoy you're last few weeks!

Heather

Hey guys... they finally put out a "draft" schedule if y'all wanna check it out:

http://som.umdnj.edu/education/academic_program/undergrad/documents/YrIClassFall2006.pdf

Looks like it's almost time to get serious! I'll be in Ireland for a week or so, but I look forward to meeting all of you very soon, enjoy you're last few weeks!

Heather

thx heather. oh god, why oh why do exams have 2 b so early?? those 8 am histo exams will b the end of me!

hey guys, i was wondering, are we supposed to rsvp the school with the people we're bringing for white coat? the only thing i remember was that they set the limit at 2, but was wondering if they wanted that info anyway.

-Usman

hey guys, i was wondering, are we supposed to rsvp the school with the people we're bringing for white coat? the only thing i remember was that they set the limit at 2, but was wondering if they wanted that info anyway.

-Usman

heya chowda, yes u do have 2 rsvp by calling liz cruz at student affairs. 856-566-6740. or i guess u can email her at elizabeth.cruz@umdnj.edu, but i called. once u confirm they tell u that they will send out a packet 2 u b4 the ceremony (i haven't received one yet so i guess they haven't sent them out yet).

hey guys, just a friendly reminder, if you haven't already, please make sure you turn in your big brother/sister survey form. we're going to use those to match you up well with someone in our class to be your big. thanks.

and as always if you have any questions about anything, feel free to hit us up.

wait, wait, wait, wait... back up. we have to rsvp for the white coat ceremony? and i thought we could bring 3 (three) people. ugh.

Ralph B.
Villanova University '05
http://www.myspace.com/rbflick120
http://groups.myspace.com/umdnjsom2010

Hey everyone... time-is-a-tickin' :eek: !! I'm still not over the initial shock of the schedule I just received so I won't even go there... but I do have a question about the books like several of my other wonderful classmates. Should we bother buying them now? Or should we wait to meet our Big Bro/Sis? And if we should get them, do we need all of them? What about the recommended stuff? Please help us (I feel incredibly corny begging like this but I know the others are happy that I'm taking one for the team here ;) )

Also- I'll be living on the 2nd floor of Echelon Glenn, so neighbors... send me a shout out... I can't wait to meet everyone!!

wait, wait, wait, wait... back up. we have to rsvp for the white coat ceremony? and i thought we could bring 3 (three) people. ugh.

Ralph B.
Villanova University '05
http://www.myspace.com/rbflick120
http://groups.myspace.com/umdnjsom2010

yeah, 2 liz cruz and it was 2 ppl, although i guess u could ask 4 an extra ticket if they have any. 856-566-6740. i think in the packet we got yesterday, it also said 2 confirm how many ppl 4 the white coat ceremony.

Hey everyone... time-is-a-tickin' :eek: !! I'm still not over the initial shock of the schedule I just received so I won't even go there... but I do have a question about the books like several of my other wonderful classmates. Should we bother buying them now? Or should we wait to meet our Big Bro/Sis? And if we should get them, do we need all of them? What about the recommended stuff? Please help us (I feel incredibly corny begging like this but I know the others are happy that I'm taking one for the team here ;) )

Also- I'll be living on the 2nd floor of Echelon Glenn, so neighbors... send me a shout out... I can't wait to meet everyone!!

As you'll quickly realize once school starts, the approach to med school is a really personal thing, with tremendous variation in the study time, books used, class attendance, study methods, etc. So, that being said, I'm sure some of my classmates will chime in with their own thoughts on the matter.

I found that books were more important second semester of first year. I don't remember exactly how your first-year schedule breaks down, but I do know there are changes from ours. Our first semester consisted of Biochem, Physio, Histo, Genetics, OMM. To me, most biochem and physio texts are roughly equivalent, especially when learning the general subjects as you will be doing. I think the most frequently purchased biochem text in my class was the Lippincott's Illustrated Reviews. It's not too bogged down in detail, straightforward, and a good fit for med school biochem. I also had two texts leftover from grad school, Harper's and Berg & Stryer, both of which are a bit "thicker" so to speak, and I really never looked in them more than a handful of times.

I think the Physio texts are all roughly equal. The notes you receive for your classes first semester are so thorough and detailed, you really won't rely on any textbooks. They're great to have as a reference, but if you choose to study in the library a lot, all of these books are on reserve. I got the Costanzo Physio book, and really didn't need it much at all. I never bought any Histo text...the notes are thorough and there is a decent class website as well. Get to know those histo notes top to bottom, he tests everything in there.

I never bought an OMM text either. I did buy the genetics book, and it came in handy sometimes. Most people didn't buy it, and with genetics being a subject of lesser importance in med school, it's certainly not urgent. As I said, your notes are great during first semester, hundreds and hundreds of pages straight from the professors.

You will get a great deal of materials from your big siblings, yes...but be careful about textbooks. I have an entire crate of stuff I got from my big brother, and that I will gladly pass along to one of you. BUT, I'm probably hanging onto textbooks.

What I meant when I said books are more important second semester is that you'll need a couple books for anatomy, Dr. White literally writes the book on Neuro so you'll need that, and having a Micro book comes in handy as well. Those are my thoughts on the matter, hopefully you'll read from someone else another approach that worked well for them. Good luck. And don't sweat too much about the schedule, I know it looks overwhelming at first.

Hey all!!! I can't believe school starts so soon....where has summer gone? I have a quick question about computers....I just bought my laptop and I didn't go with the recommended one. I bought an E1505...I don't know much about computers.........does anyone know if that will work?

Hey all!!! I can't believe school starts so soon....where has summer gone? I have a quick question about computers....I just bought my laptop and I didn't go with the recommended one. I bought an E1505...I don't know much about computers.........does anyone know if that will work?Ooooo. The previous question reminded me of something I wanted to ask...
Do many students use their computers during lecture? I know the desks in the classrooms are small. Are the notes the professors give you on paper or on the computer?

although i guess u could ask 4 an extra ticket if they have any.

I only have 1 person coming, so someone can take my extra spot. Just tell them that Nicole Campfield (nicole.campfield@gmail.com) only has 1 guest and that she said I could use her "extra ticket".

Hope that helps!

To answer the laptop questions, pretty much anything will work as long as you have wireless, which all new laptops do. The tech people will get you set up during orientation. You don't have to get a dell, I have a thinkpad.

People do use laptops during lecture. Some people religiously use their computer during every class, follow the powerpoints and take notes using it, others will pick and choose. I would say that about 10-15% of the class regularly brought or used their laptops. You don't really need it, but sometimes its nice to have it. I would bring it with me, and use it during lecture if I felt like it. The desks are a bit small, but the rooms have a number of outlets in the back for charging throughout the day.

Hello all and welcome to the dirty Jers if you're not from here like myself! I'm a second year with the rest of these clowns - I live in Echelon Glen with PublicEnemy aka The Prez. Seriously though, if any one has any questions I'll be glad to forward you to someone who has better answers. JK.

Two questions for all you newcomers: 1. Do we have any golfers out there? 2. Do we have any Super Bowl Champion Pittsburgh Steeler Fans out there?

One piece of advice for everyone coming in: You can listen to every single one of us Yahoos tell you about what med school is like but ultimately you have to figure it out for yourself.

Although the key to getting honors is to go out the the bar the night before the exam. And I'm dead serious about that one!

Denny

I recall last year that I made sure only two people came to the white coat, and some others brought like their parents and 3 others from their extended family. I think the RSVP, etc is primarily to help them plan for food and seating. I would inform the office if you plan on brining more than 2 people, since I doubt they will deny the request. It's not like they had a ticket counter and turnstile.

It's your day, enjoy it with your loved ones... just be considerate of the school's planning and logistics.

where are you living?


I am in the Landings

I am in the Landings

Me too!
I'll be moving this saturday, and i'm looking forward to meeting everyone. What apt are you in?

REGARDING BOOKS

don't buy ANYTHING til you get here and talk to your Big. they will tell you what's worth buying and may have a list made up for you - the list sent to you is extremely comprehensive (just wait til you see the second year reading list).

also, many books are available online through the school library so check before you buy. your class notes will be enough until you get some books anyway.

enjoy the rest of your summer - sadly mine's over (3rd year has begun) but man it's sooooooo much better than being in class (remember that, you'll be here soon enough).

best of luck!
J

I know last years tuition for instate students was around $21,390. Does anyone know what this year's tuition is? I just got the email about university academic and hospital budget cuts so I'm a little concerned. I’m sure the academic portion of the university will remain as strong as ever and I am sure the hospital will recover. Even if some programs need to be cut I can always do residencies elsewhere (worst case scenario). Does anyone have any idea how much tuition is going up are we talking just like a thousand or so? I don't know how much of an increase I can handle. How is everyone getting enough loans for medschool? They capped me out with Stafford and Perkins at like $40,000. The estimated cost of being a student last year was $42,513. I was cutting a little bit in transportation, fees, and books to help pay for that but its going to be pretty hard depending on the tuition increase. Is there a way to tell the financial aid office we need more?

It might help if I explain why I'm paranoid as well :) I am coming from Pennstate and every year we had a probably 10-20% tuition increase since my first year. So I guess I’m not as concerned about the tuition going up this year, but that it won't stay steady the following years as it has traditionally in the past at umdnj-som. Like if it went up to $23,000 and stopped I would be ok with that, but if the next year it was $26,000 then $29,000 etc.... well I'd be in serious trouble.

Don't stress too much about financial aid. Since the budget was just finalized, they'll adjust the student budgets accordingly with the tuition hike. You can always go back to the financial aid office and request more funds if you haven't maxed out your annual amount. They're helpful, and the process is simple and quick.

Tuition increases are capped at 8%... not sure they'll reach the full 8% though.

Don't stress too much about financial aid. Since the budget was just finalized, they'll adjust the student budgets accordingly with the tuition hike. You can always go back to the financial aid office and request more funds if you haven't maxed out your annual amount. They're helpful, and the process is simple and quick.


Can you do that mid-year? Or do you to have that request right now, the amount I'm getting could be enough, but I'm a little worried.

There is a waiting list that you have to get on if you want to bring more than two people. The organizer of the list is Dean Michiche. I believe they will announce this Monday if requests are accepted or denied. What are the guys wearing for the ceremony, a formal suit or just a nice shirt?

Yes, you can do that any time you'd like. Towards the end of Spring semester, we'll all get an email from the financial aid office informing us of the last possible date to request extra funds for the year.

Hi,

I just got off the waitlist not too long ago. Any female still looking for a roommate to share an apartment? I want to have my own room, but I think I will feel isolated having an entire apartment to myself. I'm from California, and do NOT plan to have a car in New Jersey. So, if the apartment is not within the biking distance (less than one mile) from the school, I will need a carpool partner. Thanks.

Brodaiga I am def not wearing a full suit. I mean we are putting the white coat over it anyways so I would say max is a nice shirt and tie. I'm debating between the nice shirt and tie and a polo and dress pants. Prob going to go with a nice shirt and tie.

most of the guys wore a shirt and tie with khaki's at my white coat ceremony. the ladies were in skirts, summer dresses, or nice slacks and a blouse. enjoy the day with your families and friends!

J

I'm from California, and do NOT plan to have a car in New Jersey. So, if the apartment is not within the biking distance (less than one mile) from the school, I will need a carpool partner. Thanks.

Hey, I'm also from CA. I have a car that is not meant for NJ winter weather but I may buy a used 4- or all-wheel drive car after December. Unfortunately, I may have to rent a car for the first several weeks I'm in town b/c I'm having my car shipped and the delivery window is huge.

I'll be living in Timber Ridge, so if you live in Lindenwold and I do have a car (2 big conditions, I know), you're welcome to ride w/me for orientation and such. I'm in the PBLC so I doubt our schedules will correspond well enough for carpool once classes start.

Hey, I'm also from CA. I have a car that is not meant for NJ winter weather but I may buy a used 4- or all-wheel drive car after December. Unfortunately, I may have to rent a car for the first several weeks I'm in town b/c I'm having my car shipped and the delivery window is huge.

I'll be living in Timber Ridge, so if you live in Lindenwold and I do have a car (2 big conditions, I know), you're welcome to ride w/me for orientation and such. I'm in the PBLC so I doubt our schedules will correspond well enough for carpool once classes start.

I'm also living in Lindenwold at the landings. I'm traveling kinda far as well...but not as far as CA. I'm actually driving out in a few hours and should be there tomorrow morning/early afternoon. If you need a lift to orientation and whatnot just let me know.
~Chris

I'm also living in Lindenwold at the landings. I'm traveling kinda far as well...but not as far as CA. I'm actually driving out in a few hours and should be there tomorrow morning/early afternoon. If you need a lift to orientation and whatnot just let me know.
~Chris

Thanks, Chris! I'd really appreciate a ride to orientation. My mom is going to help me unpack for a few days so we might have to rent a car so we can shop for necessities and so she can get around while we're busy with orientation, but I'm not sure we'll have a car every day, especially if I'm going to be without mine until 8/11. My car is so old that I could probably spend the value of my car on rentals. :thumbdown

Does anyone know which phone company has the cheapest rates for landlines in our area?

I personally chose to use my cell, why need a land line? If you need one comast has a good deal where for $99 you get digital cable, digital telephone, and high speed internet. This stuff seperately is around $170.

P.S. For the girl renting,I think enterprise would be cheapest, they usually have 1/2 price weekends. They also have the lowest under 25 fees

Yo, if anyone wants to go see You, Me and Dupree tonight at 10, give me a call 614-204-3756.

Denny