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cj0415
01-24-2006, 10:50 PM
hey all, i know my top and bottom ones, but i am having some trouble ranking the middle ones, so any input would be really helpful. thanks!!!

BIDMC
NYU
Mt. Sinai
Yale
Northwestern
U Chicago

BigBadBix
01-24-2006, 11:28 PM
hey all, i know my top and bottom ones, but i am having some trouble ranking the middle ones, so any input would be really helpful. thanks!!!

BIDMC
NYU
Mt. Sinai
Yale
Northwestern
U Chicago

All are solid programs with different strengths. You are going to be well-trained from any of these places. It is hard to give advice without knowing what you value most highly, whether that is location, autonomy, variety of clinical experiences, reputation, happiness of residents, research opporutnities, etc. I visited NYU, BIDMC, and Sinai so if you have specific aspects of those programs that you'd like to discuss I'd be happy to do so.

DrNick2006
01-25-2006, 08:05 AM
U Chicago
Yale = BIDMC
NYU
Mt. Sinai = Northwestern

cj0415
01-25-2006, 03:02 PM
you are completely right, it is hard to rank without knowing a little about what i value. ideally, the perfect program would be include stellar repuation, nice people, great location in a great city, nice facility, good anciliary support ... but that's asking for alot, i honestly don't think there is no such a place.

so, here are some of my thoughts on these program, maybe others can comment too. i esp welcome what all of you think of BIDMC's repuation comparing with the two chicago programs.

BIDMC - great program overall, good facility and ancillary, but i don't love the boston
Sinai/NYU - i like NYC alot, Sinai has better ancillary and facility. interns at NYU seem to get scuted out alot
Northwestern/ U Chicago - NW has a beautiful hospital and a great location in chicago (although i like NYC better), but if i were to move to chicago, got to consider U Chicago has a better rep
Yale - great program, not loving New Haven



All are solid programs with different strengths. You are going to be well-trained from any of these places. It is hard to give advice without knowing what you value most highly, whether that is location, autonomy, variety of clinical experiences, reputation, happiness of residents, research opporutnities, etc. I visited NYU, BIDMC, and Sinai so if you have specific aspects of those programs that you'd like to discuss I'd be happy to do so.

cj0415
01-25-2006, 03:04 PM
you are completely right, it is hard to rank without knowing a little about what i value. ideally, the perfect program would be include stellar repuation, nice people, great location in a great city, nice facility, good anciliary support ... but that's asking for alot, i honestly don't think there is no such a place.

so, here are some of my thoughts on these program, maybe others can comment too. i esp welcome what all of you think of BIDMC's repuation comparing with the two chicago programs.

BIDMC - great program overall, good facility and ancillary, but i don't love the boston
Sinai/NYU - i like NYC alot, Sinai has better ancillary and facility. interns at NYU seem to get scuted out alot
Northwestern/ U Chicago - NW has a beautiful hospital and a great location in chicago (although i like NYC better), but if i were to move to chicago, got to consider U Chicago has a better rep
Yale - great program, not loving New Haven


All are solid programs with different strengths. You are going to be well-trained from any of these places. It is hard to give advice without knowing what you value most highly, whether that is location, autonomy, variety of clinical experiences, reputation, happiness of residents, research opporutnities, etc. I visited NYU, BIDMC, and Sinai so if you have specific aspects of those programs that you'd like to discuss I'd be happy to do so.

BigBadBix
01-25-2006, 05:49 PM
you are completely right, it is hard to rank without knowing a little about what i value. ideally, the perfect program would be include stellar repuation, nice people, great location in a great city, nice facility, good anciliary support ... but that's asking for alot, i honestly don't think there is no such a place.

so, here are some of my thoughts on these program, maybe others can comment too. i esp welcome what all of you think of BIDMC's repuation comparing with the two chicago programs.

BIDMC - great program overall, good facility and ancillary, but i don't love the boston
Sinai/NYU - i like NYC alot, Sinai has better ancillary and facility. interns at NYU seem to get scuted out alot
Northwestern/ U Chicago - NW has a beautiful hospital and a great location in chicago (although i like NYC better), but if i were to move to chicago, got to consider U Chicago has a better rep
Yale - great program, not loving New Haven


OK, that is very helpful. Taking your preferences into account, here's my $0.02:

I didn't apply to the Chicago programs, but my impression from the interview trail is that U Chicago definitely has a stronger rep than BIDMC. BIDMC and NW seem about equal in terms of rep (others feel free to correct me if I'm off base here). BIDMC might have a slight edge, but I doubt it's enough to make up for living in a city you don't enjoy. Of course, if you are concerned about reputation among non-physicians, BIDMC will have the edge over all these places b/c of the Harvard association.

If you can at all stand Boston, I would put BIDMC above Sinai and NYU since it has them beat on everything you are looking for except location. If you really hate Boston, I'd stick it below Sinai and perhaps NYU as well. I don't think you would be sacrificing too much by doing so, and if you would really be happier in NYC it's probably worth it.

Re: Sinai vs NYU, sounds like Sinai has more of what you are looking for, so it makes sense to rank them higher (I personally preferred NYU but I don't think it's for everyone). However, I should mention that on my interview I got the sense that there was a decent amount of scut at Sinai. All NYC programs are going to have some scut, and with NYU's ancillary services improving I'm not sure they are going to be any worse than Sinai.

I hope that is at least somewhat helpful! Good luck with your decision.

-BBB