I thought i'd get us started. anyone know where they're living yet?

I'll have a condo for sale in the Dupont Circle area when I pack and leave for residency in a couple of months.

Also, congratulations to the 2010 class.

I thought i'd get us started. anyone know where they're living yet?

no idea! where is everyone! gotta get some g-dub spirit up in here . . . :D

I'm so excited!! congrats pyt27! as of now, it looks like we're the only ones going there next year!

I'm so excited!! congrats pyt27! as of now, it looks like we're the only ones going there next year!


I'll be there, too!

I was wondering when someone was going to start this thread.

I'll be there, too!

I was wondering when someone was going to start this thread.


me too! hahaha we're such dorks :D yay for G-DUB! Men's ball is #6 in the NATION!

I'm so excited!! congrats pyt27! as of now, it looks like we're the only ones going there next year!

woop wooooop, it's gonna be an insane 4 years . . . . :D who cares-we're in!

woop wooooop, it's gonna be an insane 4 years . . . . :D who cares-we're in!


Count me in :D... I can't wait to start in the fall...

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Well, since there are two GW 2010 threads, I'm just posting to both!

I'm very excited to have been accepted to GW! I was on the waitlist for months and months last year. I've also been accepted at one other school I really liked, so I'm trying to decide... So, it's 50/50 that I'll be at GW!

MD Rapper-lookin forward to seeing you next fall- :D , so can you really sing? cus i have a friend in the DC area who is really serious about his music and can play any instrument known to man but can't sing :p you two should meet . . .

so to the latter, WOW what a nice situation to be in-Loyola vs. GW-wow man WOW . . . .

so to the latter, WOW what a nice situation to be in-Loyola vs. GW-wow man WOW . . . .

Yes, I feel very blessed and lucky!

HII! Just wanted to say congrats to everyone who's in!!!

I'll be joining you in the Fall too...super excited!!

:)

CONGRATULATIONS to all of you, i wish you all the best of luck...

can any of you tell us prospective students, who WISH to be in your shoes next year, what your mcat and gpa's were when you applied???

thanks,
schooler.

yay :D

to Cubes_MD

(sorry I'm dumb-shoulda included quote-teehee . .. )

hey guys,
how long did it take for you to hear back after your interview?? Ive heard some people receiving acceptances after as little as 2 wks...

Hi guys! I might be joining you in August, but I'm waiting on financial aid before I decide.

Does anyone know when we will get GW's aid package finalized? The link on the website to the online financial aid app still isn't active.

Does anyone know if GW gives out any grants/scholarships? When I interviewed, students made it sound like they all just had all loans. I'm hoping that there is some grant money available.

Finally, is there a second look visit?

hey guys,
how long did it take for you to hear back after your interview?? Ive heard some people receiving acceptances after as little as 2 wks...

I found out after 5 weeks.

i'll be there too! anyone know anything about housing? msar says that they try to set you up with other students if you want. anyone know anything about that?

i'll be there too! anyone know anything about housing? msar says that they try to set you up with other students if you want. anyone know anything about that?


I haven't heard anything about that.. but it'd be cool if all the med students lived in the same area. i wish they had dorms for us. hmm... i wonder if that'd be too much stress from school in one building's foundation?!

Hey!!

What did you guys think of the housing email??? Anyone going to choose any of those options? I'm trying to find an apartment right now and its unbelievable how expesive things are...

Anyways, just wanted to see where everyone was at regarding housing stuff.. :)

Hey!!

What did you guys think of the housing email??? Anyone going to choose any of those options? I'm trying to find an apartment right now and its unbelievable how expesive things are...

Anyways, just wanted to see where everyone was at regarding housing stuff.. :)
Apparently HOVA (the dorm mentioned in the email) is a converted hotel that GW is currently using as a freshmen dorm (but the city wont let them keep freshmen there after this year.) The housing people I spoke with said that they are doing some minor renovations and that it will be really nice. I was also told that so far mostly med students have expressed interest in it.

I'm not sure how excited I am about living in a dorm again, but it's half the cost of anywhere else, so we'll see.

Apparently HOVA (the dorm mentioned in the email) is a converted hotel that GW is currently using as a freshmen dorm (but the city wont let them keep freshmen there after this year.) The housing people I spoke with said that they are doing some minor renovations and that it will be really nice. I was also told that so far mostly med students have expressed interest in it.

I'm not sure how excited I am about living in a dorm again, but it's half the cost of anywhere else, so we'll see.

how much are they saying HOVA is per month? one of my friends lived there in undergrad...they were exactly like hotel rooms but only ~15 min walk away from med school

how much are they saying HOVA is per month? one of my friends lived there in undergrad...they were exactly like hotel rooms but only ~15 min walk away from med school

according to the website:
A Single Occupancy Room is $700/month ($3150/semester)
A Double Occupancy Room is $800/month ($1800/semester per person)

http://gwired.gwu.edu/cllc/housing/GradHousing/HOVA/

It seems pretty cool and cheap. I'm considering living there for a semester and looking around at apartments for the next semester.

according to the website:
A Single Occupancy Room is $700/month ($3150/semester)
A Double Occupancy Room is $800/month ($1800/semester per person)

http://gwired.gwu.edu/cllc/housing/GradHousing/HOVA/

It seems pretty cool and cheap. I'm considering living there for a semester and looking around at apartments for the next semester.

wow, im impressed. thats not bad at all.

has anyone seen the 2006 matchlist for gwu?

has anyone seen the 2006 matchlist for gwu?


I was under the impression that they didn't publish it, but I could definitely be wrong.

I dont understand why they don't publish it. It would be really helpful to me to see where their graduates actually go...

The cynic in me can't help but think they are hiding it on purpose. Like, that maybe the match list isn't that impressive?

I love the school, but I want to get all the info before I make my choice.

I dont understand why they don't publish it. It would be really helpful to me to see where their graduates actually go...

The cynic in me can't help but think they are hiding it on purpose. Like, that maybe the match list isn't that impressive?

I love the school, but I want to get all the info before I make my choice.

There's a really general matchlist on their website that just says mentions a few centers where folks matched, and it says how many people matched into each specialty... I asked them for more info regarding the match list, but that was all I got. :confused:

There's a really general matchlist on their website that just says mentions a few centers where folks matched, and it says how many people matched into each specialty... I asked them for more info regarding the match list, but that was all I got. :confused:

Yeah, that's why I am suspicious, they only tell us a few big-name hospitals that people matched at...but what if everyone else matched at no-name places? It just seems weird to me, is all -- I mean, every other school I've looked at publishes their complete list.

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On February 21, I sent a list of questions to the admissions office. I received a response stating that the person did not know the answers and would pass my questions on to someone who could answer. On March 8, I still hadn't heard back, so I e-mailed them again. I was told that they would check on my issues again. Yeah, I haven't gotten any answers.

Here are two of my more important questions:

"What is the board passing rate at GW? How does that compare to the national average? If it's lower than the national average, why is that? How many students failed Step 1 last year? Did they all pass on the second try? I’ve heard (from a current student) that the MS1 and MS2 classes do not specifically “teach to the boards” and that students are expected to seek outside training for the test. Is this true? Should I expect to need to enroll in an outside prep course, such as Kaplan? Does the GW program schedule in study time at the end of the second year to prep for the exam?

What percentage of the class matches in their first attempt? If any didn't match, did they choose a different specialty?"

A student told me that she felt the MS1 and MS2 classes were unorganized. I was also told that GWU tends to take more students with lower MCAT scores, which may explain the idea that the board passing rate isn't as high. I take the rumors with a grain of salt. I was hoping to get some real answers from the school itself, but of course, I haven't. Honestly, I was very disappointed with the lack of response. Before I was admitted, the school was very attentive to my questions and requests. Now that I'm admitted, they don't appear to care.

If any of you can get the answers to these questions, please pass them on.

A current student pointed me to the minutes from the faculty senate to answer questions about the USMLE (but not match list.)

Check out this link:
http://inside.gwumc.edu/edu/policy/Senate/minutes/Minutes06/amins905.htm

The pass rate last year was 93% with a mean score of 215 (compared to 216 for the national average.)

You're absolutely right... but I can't imagine that it could be so terrible for the following reasons:

1) GW is a US allopathic school
2) It is private
3) It is in a very strategic location (geographically) between new england and the southern atlantic coast. This reason and #2 lead me to believe that they may have some good affiliations.
4) The selected hospitals publicized were pretty much top tier... so I can't imagine people matching into anything less than mid-tier from the school.

I'm not fully certain about any of this... just my 2 cents.

I agree with you on all those points. GW should have a pretty decent match list for all those reasons - I think it's a great school. But it still begs the question as to why they don't publicize it. Even schools with mostly mid-tier matches still publish the whole list as a selling point. I just don't like the idea that they aren't willing to give us all the info, whatever their reasons may be.

opstandzon and air,

thanks for posting the info and the emailed questions. Post if you ever get any more info!

it sucks that their avg board scores are lower than the national mean, but then again I think that your scores on the boards are heavily based on your own individual preparation. It seems that having classes that "teach to the boards" would be equivalent to picking up some Board review books and First Aid and studying solely from them...obviously this is hurting gw's step 1 scores but if you're a good student and prepare well, you can get a great score. I dont know if I would appreciate taking classes that mention things only seen on previous board exams...

On February 21, I sent a list of questions to the admissions office. I received a response stating that the person did not know the answers and would pass my questions on to someone who could answer. On March 8, I still hadn't heard back, so I e-mailed them again. I was told that they would check on my issues again. Yeah, I haven't gotten any answers.

Here are two of my more important questions:

"What is the board passing rate at GW? How does that compare to the national average? If it's lower than the national average, why is that? How many students failed Step 1 last year? Did they all pass on the second try? I’ve heard (from a current student) that the MS1 and MS2 classes do not specifically “teach to the boards” and that students are expected to seek outside training for the test. Is this true? Should I expect to need to enroll in an outside prep course, such as Kaplan? Does the GW program schedule in study time at the end of the second year to prep for the exam?

What percentage of the class matches in their first attempt? If any didn't match, did they choose a different specialty?"

A student told me that she felt the MS1 and MS2 classes were unorganized. I was also told that GWU tends to take more students with lower MCAT scores, which may explain the idea that the board passing rate isn't as high. I take the rumors with a grain of salt. I was hoping to get some real answers from the school itself, but of course, I haven't. Honestly, I was very disappointed with the lack of response. Before I was admitted, the school was very attentive to my questions and requests. Now that I'm admitted, they don't appear to care.

If any of you can get the answers to these questions, please pass them on.

really good questions by the way....

On February 21, I sent a list of questions to the admissions office. I received a response stating that the person did not know the answers and would pass my questions on to someone who could answer. On March 8, I still hadn't heard back, so I e-mailed them again. I was told that they would check on my issues again. Yeah, I haven't gotten any answers.

Here are two of my more important questions:

"What is the board passing rate at GW? How does that compare to the national average? If it's lower than the national average, why is that? How many students failed Step 1 last year? Did they all pass on the second try? I’ve heard (from a current student) that the MS1 and MS2 classes do not specifically “teach to the boards” and that students are expected to seek outside training for the test. Is this true? Should I expect to need to enroll in an outside prep course, such as Kaplan? Does the GW program schedule in study time at the end of the second year to prep for the exam?

What percentage of the class matches in their first attempt? If any didn't match, did they choose a different specialty?"

A student told me that she felt the MS1 and MS2 classes were unorganized. I was also told that GWU tends to take more students with lower MCAT scores, which may explain the idea that the board passing rate isn't as high. I take the rumors with a grain of salt. I was hoping to get some real answers from the school itself, but of course, I haven't. Honestly, I was very disappointed with the lack of response. Before I was admitted, the school was very attentive to my questions and requests. Now that I'm admitted, they don't appear to care.

If any of you can get the answers to these questions, please pass them on.


That really sucks that they haven't gotten back to you. I would be pissed. Matter of fact, I am pissed that they are doing this because at this point they should be answering questions more because they dont even have a second look! Jeez, they are making it real easy to look at other schools that are more attentive.

x

hey guys. so i'm a 21 year old girl and very interested in the two housing options they mentioned in the housing email. is anyone else interested? if not, where else are you guys looking to live? also, i am going back to visit this week and have been on the phone w/ the admissions committee and housing people and they have been super helpful in answering my questions and helping me arrange my own second look day. i recommend you guys do that too.

please help me out on housing; i'm so clueless!

hey everyone two quick questions. 1) where is the
'general" match list mentioned earlier, and 2)does anyone know whats up with preregistration fee or what ever its called thats due in June in addition to the deposit and before fin. aid kicks in?

hey guys. so i'm a 21 year old girl and very interested in the two housing options they mentioned in the housing email. is anyone else interested? if not, where else are you guys looking to live? also, i am going back to visit this week and have been on the phone w/ the admissions committee and housing people and they have been super helpful in answering my questions and helping me arrange my own second look day. i recommend you guys do that too.

please help me out on housing; i'm so clueless!

JP-

I am also probably going to live in HOVA, provided I have the option. It's a good deal but understandably not for everyone. If you love to cook, it's going to be a problem, since (as of this moment) there is only one kitchen for the entire building. Nonetheless, I went to undergrad at GW, so I'm familiar with the building and the rooms. It's definitely a good deal and very convenient to the med school.

As for other housing options, there are plenty if you don't want to live near campus. The Foggy Bottom area is pricey, but if you are willing to go a little further out, you can find stuff that's reasonable. Before hearing about HOVA, I was planning to live in SW near the waterfront, which is a very up and coming area and relatively inexpensive.

Anyway, if you have any questions, feel free to pm me or whatever.

Amy

hey everyone two quick questions. 1) where is the
'general" match list mentioned earlier, and 2)does anyone know whats up with preregistration fee or what ever its called thats due in June in addition to the deposit and before fin. aid kicks in?

I was just looking at the "general" match list here:

http://www.gwumc.edu/edu/admis/html/academics/residencies.html

It just rattles off some well-known institutions and numbers, but doesn't match the programs with the specialties. I was sad to see no ENTs on the tally, but I guess they're rare. Seems like an odd list: zero in ENT or derm, but 14 in anesthesia!

Don't know what's up with the several thousand dollar deposit in June. This feels like a weeder-fee. Poor folks like me (and most of you!) can't handle this amount even with 2 months notice. I know this kind of deposit is popular at some of the DO schools, but haven't seen it elsewhere. le sigh.

I don't understand why there are so many posts about matchlists. GW is a good school, do your best and you will get what you want (or at least something close). Going to ***vard or ***ford and doing bad isn't gonna place you in a good match, but going to GW and doing well will. This is my plan anyway. See you all in August.







I was just looking at the "general" match list here:

http://www.gwumc.edu/edu/admis/html/academics/residencies.html

It just rattles off some well-known institutions and numbers, but doesn't match the programs with the specialties. I was sad to see no ENTs on the tally, but I guess they're rare. Seems like an odd list: zero in ENT or derm, but 14 in anesthesia!

Don't know what's up with the several thousand dollar deposit in June. This feels like a weeder-fee. Poor folks like me (and most of you!) can't handle this amount even with 2 months notice. I know this kind of deposit is popular at some of the DO schools, but haven't seen it elsewhere. le sigh.

Besides, I hear that over 50% of the kids match into their first choice residency and over 80% match into on of their top 3 choice residencies . . .

x

Guys, what are you doing these last couple of months before orientation? aghhh-I'm going hyper trying to fit in as much 'fun' and 'relaxation' as possible . . . =P. where are y'all living?

Just found this thread...hello classmates. I am on a "waiting list" at the Statesman on F street. It seems this is common for some of the larger apt. buildings.

You have to keep in mind that the list of specialties is not complete... It says that they're the ones that were "most highly matched." So there is a possibility that there were matches like ENT, derm, nsurg and rad onc... but it was probably 3 people or less in each. This is actually comparable to most mid-tier medical schools.

i think gw has a strong history of graduating more IM/family med/peds than other highly competitive specialties like derm/plastics...that would be more of a gtown thing (AKA specialist factory). It would be hard trying to match in derm coming from gw bc i dont think they have their own derm residency program so you wont be able to rely on your own school taking you

Guys, what are you doing these last couple of months before orientation? aghhh-I'm going hyper trying to fit in as much 'fun' and 'relaxation' as possible . . . =P. where are y'all living?

jamaica, jamaica! a week on the beach w/ bf n friends :D

btw, I just made my final decision today on where I'll be going. yay, GW! I look forward to meeting you guys this August!

Anyone else living in HOVA or know anything about what it's actually like living there?

jamaica, jamaica! a week on the beach w/ bf n friends :D

btw, I just made my final decision today on where I'll be going. yay, GW! I look forward to meeting you guys this August!

Anyone else living in HOVA or know anything about what it's actually like living there?


I'm going to be living in HOVA. Your guess is as good as mine as to what it will be like. I've been in the building before, and the rooms are decent, but I heard they are doing some renovations, etc., so I really have no idea.

I'll fist fight for kitchen privileges, though, since there is only ONE for the whole building!! :laugh:

As for my summer plans, fun times in New Hampshire :)

whats this condo like? and how far is it from campus?

whats this condo like? and how far is it from campus?

I'm not sure about condos around GW. I think HOVA would be more like dorm-style apartments and is less than 0.5mile from the school. I found these link that list on-campus housing options. From the email that was sent out it looks like HOVA and Columbia Plaza are the main graduate housing places, but I'm sure there are plenty of off-campus opportunities as well. Hope this helps!

http://gwired.gwu.edu/hc/ViewResidenceHalls/ViewHall/merlin-cgi/building_id/11

http://gwired.gwu.edu/cllc/housing/GradHousing/

Hey 2010ers,

Congrats on your acceptances and your decisions to attend GW. I'm looking forward to meeting you in August.

Those of you who haven't spent a lot of time in DC might have some big questions about living situations, neighborhoods, commuting, recreation, partying, churches, et cetera. I lived in DC for four years, fron 1999 through 2003, and I really enjoyed it, for the most part. I'm really looking forward to coming back, and I'd be happy to answer to the best of my ability the questions you may have.

Coming from the West, I was shocked at DC rent prices, and that was back in '99. It's worse now. The thing is, though, that the double-edged knife of gentrification is cutting rapidly through DC and consequently the list of neighborhoods given to us by the admissions office is far from exhaustive.

One thing is certain...it will be hot on the day of the White Coat Ceremony. DC in August is brutal; that's why Congress leaves town.

Have a great one and we'll see you in four months!

Hello all! I am a potential future classmate as well!

I am the most indecisive person, so nothing is definite but I am leaning towards GW


Oh and about the match list- there was a list on SDN for the 2005 match (I'll try and find it again) It was surprisingly impressive. I knew it would be decent, but it looked great.

Anyone want to talk more about the quality of teaching or the curriculum?

Thanks!

found it-
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showpost.php?p=2424008&postcount=87

ok so i need advice. i'm torn between gw and rfu in chicago. can you guys offer me any help?

Anyone want to talk more about the quality of teaching or the curriculum?




I definitely want to talk about the curriculum. How does everyone feel about being in class for most of the day? How do you think you will cope with it (stay home and listen to lectures, attend class sometimes, attend class everyday and study after, etc).

For the past 3 months, I have been confused about GW or NW. Right now, I am 99% sure I am going to GW (financial aid issues of course!!!) and just wanted to get some of your opinions.

Has anyone else decided on housing for next year. I just signed on the dotted line for a place in Jefferson House - right across the street from the school. Hopefully some others will be there as well.

alot of the kids live in jefferson house, statesman, columbia plaza, claridge etc.

and i'm guessing since HOVA is being offered-alot of ppl will take that up since it's a really good deal altho i dunno what the deal is with kitchens . . .

I definitely want to talk about the curriculum. How does everyone feel about being in class for most of the day? How do you think you will cope with it (stay home and listen to lectures, attend class sometimes, attend class everyday and study after, etc).

For the past 3 months, I have been confused about GW or NW. Right now, I am 99% sure I am going to GW (financial aid issues of course!!!) and just wanted to get some of your opinions.

For a while, I was torn between GW and Tufts, but after flying down yesterday and sitting in on classes and meeting students, I'm like 99.999% sure (fin aid pending, but it would have to be a huge difference).

I sat through a biochem lecture which was actually pretty cool, talked about interesting stuff like genetic disorders (and i didn't fall asleep which is always a good sign for me). plus the professors gave breaks every hour. i was surprised to see so many students there, but from what i was told it's really more about personal preference.

afterwards the MS2 did a panel presentation for the MS1s on what to expect next year. really helpful advice on study tips/classes/prep for boards. for the most part it seems like the students were really happy and outgoing. They emphasized that everyone has a different learning style and you should stick with what works for you. some students NEVER went to class and others went to all, if not, most. i'm definitely an auditory learner, so i'll probably be going at the lectures and studying afterwards. but i really like how the school tries to have something to fit everyone's style. students can download lectures as mp3s on to their ipods or download/print the syllabus with the powerpoint slides from class, there's a FREE notetaking service for students, and the students from the year before make their notes available to the class after them, which i think is awesome.

i'll be living in HOVA next year. it's actually a first-year undergrad dorm now which'll be switched to grad housing for next year (something about new zoning restrictions). it was really nice. in a great area across from the watergate hotel, supermarket, CVS, dry cleaners and wine store... and, it's about at 3 minute walk from Ross Hall (15+ minutes if you get lost :idea: )

take care and see you guys in August!

and i'm guessing since HOVA is being offered-alot of ppl will take that up since it's a really good deal altho i dunno what the deal is with kitchens . . .[/QUOTE]

yup, just one communal kitchen somewhere in the basement. but all of the rooms should come w/ microwave/fridge.

For a while, I was torn between GW and Tufts, but after flying down yesterday and sitting in on classes and meeting students, I'm like 99.999% sure (fin aid pending, but it would have to be a huge difference).

I sat through a biochem lecture which was actually pretty cool, talked about interesting stuff like genetic disorders (and i didn't fall asleep which is always a good sign for me). plus the professors gave breaks every hour. i was surprised to see so many students there, but from what i was told it's really more about personal preference.

afterwards the MS2 did a panel presentation for the MS1s on what to expect next year. really helpful advice on study tips/classes/prep for boards. for the most part it seems like the students were really happy and outgoing. They emphasized that everyone has a different learning style and you should stick with what works for you. some students NEVER went to class and others went to all, if not, most. i'm definitely an auditory learner, so i'll probably be going at the lectures and studying afterwards. but i really like how the school tries to have something to fit everyone's style. students can download lectures as mp3s on to their ipods or download/print the syllabus with the powerpoint slides from class, there's a FREE notetaking service for students, and the students from the year before make their notes available to the class after them, which i think is awesome.

i'll be living in HOVA next year. it's actually a first-year undergrad dorm now which'll be switched to grad housing for next year (something about new zoning restrictions). it was really nice. in a great area across from the watergate hotel, supermarket, CVS, dry cleaners and wine store... and, it's about at 3 minute walk from Ross Hall (15+ minutes if you get lost :idea: )

take care and see you guys in August!


Thanks for this post. I, too, am an auditory learner but I can get tired of going to class sometimes. So I am glad that GW makes provisions for this. I am going to go down today and look for housing. I plan on moving in around July 1st or so. I am soooo excited about living in DC and going to a wonderful school. Checking out the website, I recommend looking at the Office for Student Opportunities site. Its amazing what they offer to students. In any case, I will see you all in a short while. Hopefully we will not be shy and introduce ourselves to each other during Orientation using our SDN names :laugh:

-pretty

Now this feels much better (see below)

Has anyone gotten their financial aid package yet? On the website it said they would post them starting April 28.

Hi Everyone! Add me to this list! Like some others, I'm 99% sure this is where I'm going to be next year and I'm so excited! Never lived in DC before, but had a great time there when I interviewed. (I'm from Hawaii, went to undergrad in Cali, and now will be making it all the way over the east coast). Look forward to meeting you all soon!

local girl- where did you go to school?

can anyone talk about the track program. I am really interested in it, and the admissions committee makes it seem like a big deal. The thing is, I talked to one of my friends that is a first year there and has no idea what program that is. Weren't they the first class to have the program? Is anyone else interested in it?

Thanks!

I'm a first-year at GW this year, so welcome to all of you who've been admitted.

The track program has a web site (http://www.gwumc.edu/smhs/students/opportunities/index.html) (click on Track Program on the left). There are tracks in Community/Urban Health, Emergency Preparedness, Global Health, Health Policy, Research, and Medical Education. Most of them can be done with the MD/MPH program (which is now a five-year program).

Basically, to do the track program you go to lectures (generally once or twice a month during lunch) and do a research project or field experience project over the summer between first and second year. They also encourage you to take some of your elective time during fourth year to work on your chosen area, though that's not required (at least that's my understanding). The program is new this year, so I think that some of it is being worked out as they go.

If you complete the track program, they'll mention it in your dean's letter when you're applying for residency, and it gives you something to talk about during your interviews, but it doesn't change your degree in any way.

I chose not to do the program because I didn't want to be tied down to a project over the summer (I think the project has to be a minimum of ten weeks, though don't quote me on the number). I still go to most of the health policy lectures and learn from them. In general, you can get the same experience without doing the program, but the program gives you a way to formalize it into a curriculum, gets mentioned in the dean's letter, and gives you some priority for funding for summer opportunities.

Hope that helps--let me know if you have other questions about GW and I'm happy to try to answer them! :)

I'm a first-year at GW this year, so welcome to all of you who've been admitted.

...
Hope that helps--let me know if you have other questions about GW and I'm happy to try to answer them! :)

Thanks, that helps. What else can you say about the curriculum? Why did you choose GW?

Know anyone in the track program and like it? I guess the big test will be what kind of internships the student in the program this year

Um, the bottom line reason that I chose GW was location. I'm married and my wife was a poli sci/international relations major in college, so Washington is perfect for her, and she had a job all lined up here. I liked Washington too, and I liked the school when I visited. Washington is a very young city--lots of people in their 20s and 30s, which was very attractive for both of us. I was also impressed by the new hospital and its affiliation with Children's (I'm planning on going into pediatrics).

As for the curriculum...it's very hit and miss, at least for the first two years (I only have experience with year one, but I hear it's fairly similar in second year). There are some classes in first year where I wanted to poke my eyes out with burning scissors, and there are some where I've been absolutely enthralled. I came from a small liberal arts school that spoils its students rotten, so it was something of a transition for me coming to a place where you're not coddled.

More specifically, I've commented a bit on some of the classes we've taken. Take it with a grain of salt of course since this is all individual perception (or at least my group of friends' perception):

Gross Anatomy: It's very methodical and layed out. The two main profs give out very thorough notes and all test questions are straight from them. There's definitely a lot to know. The lab has six students assigned to a table, and we generally split into subgroups of three with each subgroup working on a different part of the body (e.g., one on arm/one on leg, one on thorax/one on abdomen, one on head/one on pelvis). The professors in lab were helpful in showing things for us. The process of dissection is largely self-taught with minimal guidance from the lab staff.

Histology: This class had two regular professors. One was very methodical with exhaustive notes, and one was less methodical but stilll got the information across. Mostly, this class was a lot of memorization, it seemed to me. The histo labs are all done on computers, and many students did not attend the actual lab sessions preferring to study on their own. You'll probably also get access to a couple of computer programs to help you study on your own.

Neuro: One of the primary professors for this class wasn't able to teach it this year, so it ended up being a little disorganized for our class. I don't know what will happen next year, but I assume with more lead time they'll be better able to find people to teach various units.

PBL: Our problem based learning sessions are small groups once a week (either Tuesday or Thursday morning). In first year, they're led by a professor and a librarian to teach us how to use medical resources. You spend three weeks on each case, receiving a little more information each week. Generally, we spend the first week doing some preliminary research and developing a differential diagnosis, the second week listening to power point presentations about various aspects of the case, and the third week tying up loose ends. I think the quality of this class varies depending on who the librarian and mediacl mentors are. The biggest complaint I've heard is that the cases move too slowly and that they aren't presented in enough detail. I've really enjoyed the class. There are also weekly PBL lectures that less than half of the class attend (they're on child development, ethics, EBM, etc.).

DPS/CAP: PBL and DPS/CAP make up the Practice of Medicine class. DPS is the physical diagnosis and interviewing class. Most of the interviewing skills are taught in the first semester and more of the physical exam in the second semester. Again, a lot depends on your group and your mentors. Fourth-year students help teach physical diagnosis and they are a fantastic resource for leaning the material and for understanding how it will be tested. By the end of the first year, you know how to do a complete physical and a complete interview.

DPS takes three out of four weeks in the fall and every other week in the spring. CAP fills in the empty spaces on off weeks. The CAP program pairs you with a doctor in the community to shadow and practice interviewing/physical diagnosis. They'll send you a preference form in the summer to try to assign you to an internist, family practice, or pediatrician physician. Almost no one got what they wanted, so there was a fair amount of shuffling when people started. If you push, you can get what you want, and several people I know even have fairly different specialties than the ones they originally offer--I know some that are with ER docs and some with sports medicine people. I ended up with a fantastic pediatrician for my CAP--the only down side is that he's almost a full hour via public transportation from school. It's really nice to see patients though--this is definitely my favorite part of first year.

Physiology: I've been really impressed with physiology. The professors have taught it in a way that makes a lot of sense to me (maybe I'm just a physio minded person, I don't know). It's a great class, at least in my book.

Biochemistry: This class is, I think, more in depth than most medical school biochemistry classes. The professor likes to emphasize very specific concepts in a lot of depth. I personally find this course really frustrating because I don't really know what I have to know, but others really like it. I think it's a personal learning style kind of thing. Certainly doable though--for me biochem is a take it, pass it, and be done with it kind of class.

Immunology: This class doesn't start till after spring break and is only two credits, so it's very brief. The professors are very enthusiastic about teaching us and being open for questions and e-mails. The first half of the course is the mechanics of immunology while the second half is all clinical applications. I like this course as well.

Overall, the curriculum is pretty good. I don't think it's the best first two years you can find, but it's certainly enough to teach you what you need to know. And everything I've heard about third and fourth year is that they're outstanding. And for me at least, third and fourth year are where it's at, y'know?


As for internships for the track program, I haven't heard anyone who wasn't able to get an internship they're interested in. Anecdotal, I know, and we'll see what they say in the fall, but it seems to be a so far so good kind of situation.

local girl- where did you go to school?

can anyone talk about the track program. I am really interested in it, and the admissions committee makes it seem like a big deal. The thing is, I talked to one of my friends that is a first year there and has no idea what program that is. Weren't they the first class to have the program? Is anyone else interested in it?

Thanks!

I went to Punahou for HS and then Stanford for undergrad. Are you a local too?

Thanks so much for the info bjackrian! Do you or anybody else also have advice on housing for married couples?

Yea I am a SoCal girl to be exact- LA county raised and UCLA for undergrad- very excited to get out though. no car, thank god with these gas prices.

Thanks for the info bjackrian, some of it is a lil discouraging, but its real and thats what we need.

Hey guys, so I asked before but has anyone gotten financial aid packages yet? May 15 is fast approaching.....

I got mine via email yesterday...pretty depressing cause its all loans. oh well! here's to being broke!!!

I got mine via email yesterday...pretty depressing cause its all loans. oh well! here's to being broke!!!

That's too bad about the loans. :(

I hope I get mine soon...I submitted the online app the first day it was available.

I dont' imagine I'll get any grant money either. Basically I just want to see if GW beats the aid I got from my other school. If not, I'm going to withdraw. But I've heard they give pretty bad aid, so I'm expecting a package of all loans as well.

Thanks so much for the info bjackrian! Do you or anybody else also have advice on housing for married couples?

It seems like most married people live in Virginia, especially if they don't have a spouse who's doing a job that makes a lot of money. Housing right around GW is really expensive (it's expensive everywhere in DC, but much more so in Foggy Bottom). Lots of people live on the orange and blue lines in Virginia--check out the Metro website (http://www.wmata.com/) if you don't know where the various lines are.

My wife and I are an exception to that rule. We live in downtown Washington, near the Convention Center (about two blocks west of the Mt. Vernon Square Metro stop. We love our area because it's very centrally located--we can walk to any of the 5 metro lines within about six blocks, and rent is much cheaper than in Virginia or Foggy Bottom. The downside is that the neighborhood is not yet really nice (though it's rapidly getting that way), and we live on the fourth floor of a walk-up (no elevator), and we don't have parking, but for us, the money we save and the convenient location is definitely worth it.

We found our apartment through the Washington City Paper (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/) 's classifieds, and we also had some luck looking at places from Craig's List (http://washingtondc.craigslist.com/) , though the Craig's List ones turned over REALLY fast (you basically had to call the first day the ad showed up. You'll also probably get several e-mails over the summer from new students looking for roommates and old students looking to find people who would like to move in to apartments they're vacating. You'll also get a first-year guide over the summer that has some more information about neighborhoods that a lot of students live in.

Hope that helps!

I was wondering when's a good time to start the apt search, if I was hoping to sign a lease starting in August.

I was wondering when's a good time to start the apt search, if I was hoping to sign a lease starting in August.
We flew back to look at the end of June, and that was probably a little too early. We got lucky in finding a landlord who was willing to hold off on our lease until August 1. I would say that if you come 2-4 weeks before you want to move in, that would be good, and possibly be prepared to pay for a little time before you get here, especially if you come on the earlier end.

It seems like most married people live in Virginia, especially if they don't have a spouse who's doing a job that makes a lot of money. Housing right around GW is really expensive (it's expensive everywhere in DC, but much more so in Foggy Bottom). Lots of people live on the orange and blue lines in Virginia--check out the Metro website (http://www.wmata.com/) if you don't know where the various lines are.

My wife and I are an exception to that rule. We live in downtown Washington, near the Convention Center (about two blocks west of the Mt. Vernon Square Metro stop. We love our area because it's very centrally located--we can walk to any of the 5 metro lines within about six blocks, and rent is much cheaper than in Virginia or Foggy Bottom. The downside is that the neighborhood is not yet really nice (though it's rapidly getting that way), and we live on the fourth floor of a walk-up (no elevator), and we don't have parking, but for us, the money we save and the convenient location is definitely worth it.

We found our apartment through the Washington City Paper (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/) 's classifieds, and we also had some luck looking at places from Craig's List (http://washingtondc.craigslist.com/) , though the Craig's List ones turned over REALLY fast (you basically had to call the first day the ad showed up. You'll also probably get several e-mails over the summer from new students looking for roommates and old students looking to find people who would like to move in to apartments they're vacating. You'll also get a first-year guide over the summer that has some more information about neighborhoods that a lot of students live in.

Hope that helps!

Thanks again bjackrian - you are a wealth of information!

what other school you looking at foodlover?

prettymd- i saw you on a couple other threads, what made you change your mind and pick GW? and what day did you turn in your fin aide stuff?

I am just trying to see how other people made this decision, cause I am having a tough time setting it in stone

I decided to go to Loyola over GWU, so I won't be meeting any of you this fall. I hope you all have a great time at GW! I think it's a fantastic program!

I am just trying to see how other people made this decision, cause I am having a tough time setting it in stone

what other school are you considering bigdreamer?

Albert Einstein is the only other one for sure

I am on the waitlist for Pritzker and BU, don't think I would pick BU over GW, but I would have to give Pritzker a second thought


My biggest issue is: am i stupid to choose GW over a better ranked less expensive school? I loved GW, honestly loved it. I love the idea of moving to DC and living in the heart of the city. I like how GW actively recruits diverse and unique people, I am just trying to get over myself and make it final. I get encouraged by people like prettymd that can pick a school that they love over the textbook logical choice.

Albert Einstein is the only other one for sure

I am on the waitlist for Pritzker and BU, don't think I would pick BU over GW, but I would have to give Pritzker a second thought


My biggest issue is: am i stupid to choose GW over a better ranked less expensive school? I loved GW, honestly loved it. I love the idea of moving to DC and living in the heart of the city. I like how GW actively recruits diverse and unique people, I am just trying to get over myself and make it final. I get encouraged by people like prettymd that can pick a school that they love over the textbook logical choice.

i had the same dilemna. it's a tough decision. i'm pretty much going with my gut and i think i'll be a lot happier at GW. good luck whatever you decide! :)

Albert Einstein is the only other one for sure

I am on the waitlist for Pritzker and BU, don't think I would pick BU over GW, but I would have to give Pritzker a second thought


My biggest issue is: am i stupid to choose GW over a better ranked less expensive school? I loved GW, honestly loved it. I love the idea of moving to DC and living in the heart of the city. I like how GW actively recruits diverse and unique people, I am just trying to get over myself and make it final. I get encouraged by people like prettymd that can pick a school that they love over the textbook logical choice.

Wow..thats a really tough decision. Most would go with the cheaper/higher ranked school but honestly if you loved your experience at GW, then perhaps its worth it...have you thought about where you would want to do residency? that could also help you in choosing between DC/NY/Boston/Chicago...

Albert Einstein is the only other one for sure

I am on the waitlist for Pritzker and BU, don't think I would pick BU over GW, but I would have to give Pritzker a second thought


My biggest issue is: am i stupid to choose GW over a better ranked less expensive school? I loved GW, honestly loved it. I love the idea of moving to DC and living in the heart of the city. I like how GW actively recruits diverse and unique people, I am just trying to get over myself and make it final. I get encouraged by people like prettymd that can pick a school that they love over the textbook logical choice.
It's definitely a tough decision. I was in the same boat as you a year ago, and I do go back and forth as to whether I made the right decision. In the end, I think that I did. There are definitely advantages to going to a program that's highly ranked: you get the advantages that go along with prestige and the type of person who chooses to go to a highly ranked school has, in general, a different type of personality from the type of person who chooses to go to a lower ranked school. I'm not trying to rag on either group, but there are definite differences. There are also big advantages to going to a program you like. Your own priorities are not the same as US News, and that definitely matters.

The bottom line is that you're going to get an MD from a US medical school no matter where you go. You'll be able to become a good physician no matter where you go. I know it's a stressful decision, but on a lot of levels, either way is a good decision.

Best of luck in deciding!

Well I am sending in my check to GW today, so at least the May 15th question is answered.

We'll see if I need to make any other decisions in the future.

See you all soon!

I withdrew my other acceptances last night, so I'm officially going to GW in the fall!

hey all - i just was accepted off the top of the waitlist. i'll be attending this august for sure. i don't think there is anything about gw that i don't like. i'm so pumped!

p.s. when does orientation start?

hey all - i just was accepted off the top of the waitlist. i'll be attending this august for sure. i don't think there is anything about gw that i don't like. i'm so pumped!

p.s. when does orientation start?


According to an e-mail I got last week, orientation is scheduled to start Wednesday, August 16th.

Edited to add: Congrats medstylee!

hey all - i just was accepted off the top of the waitlist. i'll be attending this august for sure. i don't think there is anything about gw that i don't like. i'm so pumped!

p.s. when does orientation start?

Yay! Congrats medstylee and see you at orientation! (August 16 =)

Yay! I'm getting excited too!!! :luck:

Congrats on your decision, bigdreamer! And congrats on your acceptance, medstylee!

thanks guys! looks like i've got some catching up to do on this thread.

Congrats medstylee =). uh oh it's comin upppppppppp . .august 16th . . .aghhhhhh

Count me in everyone!

I got the call yesterday afternoon!! I can't believe I am actually switching forums here on SDN -- I've been in the Pre-allo forever and now I'm posting in the Allopathic... wooooooo

See you all in a few months!

Congrats dude! you ROCK! =)

x

Yay Waitman! I love a story with a happy ending!

hey guys,

i was just wondering if anyone knows anything about how often tests/exams are held at GW?

thanks!

x

Hello GWU Med school incoming class of 2010.

I am a graduating senior at GWU med school.

Graduation day is on May 21st. In honor of graduating and as a way to "give back", I will attempt to answer as many questions as I can for you guys.

If you have any questions regarding the curriculum, living in DC, residency, or anything else, send me a private message and I will reply as best as possible.

Alternatively, you could post your question in this thread but it would be time consuming for me to have to read through the whole thread. Maybe I can answer your question as a pvt msg and then you can post the answer in the thread if you want.

hey guys,

i was just wondering if anyone knows anything about how often tests/exams are held at GW?

thanks!
During the first semester, you'll have three blocks of tests, about a month apart (two sets of midterms and finals). Those blocks will generally have three tests within a week. In the spring, we had three blocks of tests again, though the tests are a little more spread out (e.g. the tests are a week apart, so the blocks overlap a little more). I'm only a first year, but my understanding is that second year exams area a little bit more spread out. If you want to check out the schedule that we had, you can look here (http://fact.gwumc.edu/smhs/calendar/index.cfm?start_date=8/21/05&cclass=MS%20I&action=wk).

Wow, can't believe th 15th is here! Any new add ons to this thread?

So when do you guys think would be a good time to get there to find an Apt and get settled before orientation?

Anyone planning on living in Dupont?

During the first semester, you'll have three blocks of tests, about a month apart (two sets of midterms and finals). Those blocks will generally have three tests within a week. In the spring, we had three blocks of tests again, though the tests are a little more spread out (e.g. the tests are a week apart, so the blocks overlap a little more). I'm only a first year, but my understanding is that second year exams area a little bit more spread out. If you want to check out the schedule that we had, you can look here (http://fact.gwumc.edu/smhs/calendar/index.cfm?start_date=8/21/05&cclass=MS%20I&action=wk).


thanks!!! all of your posts have been super helpful.... so thanks for all of the insight that you've provided!!

hey guys,

i was just wondering if anyone knows anything about how often tests/exams are held at GW?

thanks!

First semester First year = 3 test blocks
Second semester First year = 4(or 3) biochem tests, 3 physio tests, 2 immuno tests, pretty much randomly arranges except for finals week
First semester Second year = pretty much a test every week - it's a little grueling
Second semester Second year = One test per month - except finals week

Oh and good luck to all those waiting to get in! GW is a dream come true for me!
(ok that's a little much but I do like it!)

Oh and Congratulations to everyone who is coming into the class of 2010!!!!

If you need anything, like hugs, or chocolate, you can always come to big sister Brickhouse, I'm a third year!! (haha I love saying that)

I've received a ton of questions already. Keep them coming, I will keep this screen name active during this week, after that will I will probably log in only infrequently. Some current GW Med students have sent me questions as well which is ok.

>Hello GWU Med school incoming class of 2010
>
>I am a graduating senior at GWU med school.
>
>Graduation day is on May 21st. In honor of graduating and as a way >to "give back", I will attempt to answer as many questions as I can for you >guys.
>
>If you have any questions regarding the curriculum, living in DC, residency >match, or anything else, send me a private message and I will reply as best >as possible.
>
>Alternatively, you could post your question in this thread but it would be >time consuming for me to have to read through the whole thread. Maybe I >can answer your question as a pvt msg and then you can post the answer >in the thread if you want.

Oh and Congratulations to everyone who is coming into the class of 2010!!!!

If you need anything, like hugs, or chocolate, you can always come to big sister Brickhouse, I'm a third year!! (haha I love saying that)

congrats on finishing another yr :)

I've received a ton of questions already.

Hi guys, can you post the responses on the forum when you the chance? Thanks so much!

x

anyone know what kind of stuff goes on during orientation? do you remember what you guys did during yours, big sister brickhouse?

I've been trying to coordinate some plans with my family... can anyone currently attending GW tell me how well-attended the white coat ceremony is by family members? I'm basically wondering if they should stick around or not... :confused:
It was fairly well attended by families--I think that at least half of the people had someone there, and possibly even more than that.

anyone know what kind of stuff goes on during orientation? do you remember what you guys did during yours, big sister brickhouse?
There are some general orientation activties (i.e., where things are, how to use the library, etc.), some team-building things, some special interest events, a mini-clinical case study, some speeches by deans and other Important People, the white coat ceremony, etc. I'm not usually a big fan of orientations, but I had a pretty good time at ours.

I've been trying to coordinate some plans with my family... can anyone currently attending GW tell me how well-attended the white coat ceremony is by family members? I'm basically wondering if they should stick around or not... :confused:


Shoot, everyone in my family is going to attend.

does anyone know what transitional and preliminary mean on a match list? been trying to figure it out but to no avail.

thanks.

I've been trying to coordinate some plans with my family... can anyone currently attending GW tell me how well-attended the white coat ceremony is by family members? I'm basically wondering if they should stick around or not... :confused:

I think it's a pretty big deal - the people who didn't have family/friends around felt a little left out and I was definitely happy to have mom and best friend there to witness my big moment - first of many.

It was fairly well attended by families--I think that at least half of the people had someone there, and possibly even more than that.


There are some general orientation activties (i.e., where things are, how to use the library, etc.), some team-building things, some special interest events, a mini-clinical case study, some speeches by deans and other Important People, the white coat ceremony, etc. I'm not usually a big fan of orientations, but I had a pretty good time at ours.


You forgot community service day dammit - that's the part I coordinated.

You forgot community service day dammit - that's the part I coordinated.
Sorry! I knew there was a day I was missing!

awesome, I really can't wait

x

Transitional and preliminary years are PGY-1 years (ie. intern years) that are required to be completed before many residencies like: Emergency Medicine, Optho, Derm, Rads, Anesthesia, Rad Onc.

In other cases, people do prelim years if were not able to match to their desired speciality and then try to match again the following. Generally that is not the case with US graduates because foreign graduates are more likely to be the ones to take the risk of only matching to, or accepting, one year of training. This is even more an issue now because of complicated residency funding issues as regulated by the govt.

You don't do both. You either do a prelim year or a transitional year. Generally anesthesia, rads, anesthesia, EM, rad onc do prelim years, whereas optho people do transitional years. However, that is not a set rule and it really depends on the individual programs.

Transitional year is almost similar to 3rd year of med school in that you couple month or two in each major medical discipline (ie. IM, surgery, ICU, EM, etc) and there are usually a couple months of elective time as well. You function at the intern level obviously.

Prelim years can be either medicine prelim years or surgery prelim years. As a medicine prelim, you are a medicine intern. As a surgery prelim, you are a surgery intern. After the year is completed, you move on to your speciality.

Anesthesia people usually do either a medicine prelim year or a surgery prelim year. Other programs do not give you an option and tell you which one to do.

Keep in mind surgery interns do not operate, so in many ways medicine interns and surgery interns are the same. However, medicine prelim year is where most people would learn more because surgery interns mostly manage the surgery floor where the patients are on pretty much standardized post-operation routines (except for ICU and EMED months). Both would be rigorous in terms of work hours and call schedules, that applies to interns across the board unless you are at some cush program.

Just wanted to send a quick hello to everyone. =)

I just got in off the waitlist today and have 24 hours to make a decision. I'm from Long Island and went to Barnard College in NYC (graduated yesterday and today! yay!) and I'm so absolutely undecided right now. Anyone want to make my decision for me? Heehee.

Just wanted to send a quick hello to everyone. =)

I just got in off the waitlist today and have 24 hours to make a decision. I'm from Long Island and went to Barnard College in NYC (graduated yesterday and today! yay!) and I'm so absolutely undecided right now. Anyone want to make my decision for me? Heehee.

come to Gw and we'll party!

Keep in mind surgery interns do not operate, so in many ways medicine interns and surgery interns are the same.


what?....but....you mean Grey's Anatomy isn't real ????

what?....but....you mean Grey's Anatomy isn't real ????


As you already know, most students find out pretty quick what reality is like.

At university hospitals or academic residency programs, surgery interns rarely do more than a third year or fourth year med student would at that hospital. Basically that means that if no med student is present, then the intern might be asked to scrub in as the second assist.

It is extremely rare for a surgery intern to be a first assist on any involved case. Maybe he/she might be allowed to be "first assist" on an appendectomy case, but those are pretty much one man cases anyway and an assist is more courtesy than necessity.

I have heard some occasional stories about surgery interns doing slightly little more at community programs as the environment is a little more relaxed, but I would say that it is probably not the norm even at community programs.

Regardless of where you are, it's safe to say that a surgery intern won't be anastamosing intestine.

It is not because they are physically incapable of doing it if taught how to do it, (after all, no one walks into residency already knowing how to operate, with the notable exception of foreign practicing docs), rather the issue is that they need to first learn how to manage the pre-op and post-op patients, pay their dues in the ICU, ER, the floors, etc.

As you already know, most students find out pretty quick what reality is like.

At university hospitals or academic residency programs, surgery interns rarely do more than a third year or fourth year med student would at that hospital. Basically that means that if no med student is present, then the intern might be asked to scrub in as the second assist.

It is extremely rare for a surgery intern to be a first assist on any involved case. Maybe he/she might be allowed to be "first assist" on an appendectomy case, but those are pretty much one man cases anyway and an assist is more courtesy than necessity.

I have heard some occasional stories about surgery interns doing slightly little more at community programs as the environment is a little more relaxed, but I would say that it is probably not the norm even at community programs.

Regardless of where you are, it's safe to say that a surgery intern won't be anastamosing intestine.

It is not because they are physically incapable of doing it if taught how to do it, (after all, no one walks into residency already knowing how to operate, with the notable exception of foreign practicing docs), rather the issue is that they need to first learn how to manage the pre-op and post-op patients, pay their dues in the ICU, ER, the floors, etc.


Oh I see....they must've added humor into our POMI curriculum after you'd already taken it...well....you missed a great lecture....Depalma is one funny mother f***er.

Congrats on graduation. I came this close to having to sing the National Anthem at your ceremony.

Transitional and preliminary years are PGY-1 years (ie. intern years) that are required to be completed before many residencies like: Emergency Medicine, Optho, Derm, Rads, Anesthesia, Rad Onc.

In other cases, people do prelim years if were not able to match to their desired speciality and then try to match again the following. Generally that is not the case with US graduates because foreign graduates are more likely to be the ones to take the risk of only matching to, or accepting, one year of training. This is even more an issue now because of complicated residency funding issues as regulated by the govt.

You don't do both. You either do a prelim year or a transitional year. Generally anesthesia, rads, anesthesia, EM, rad onc do prelim years, whereas optho people do transitional years. However, that is not a set rule and it really depends on the individual programs.

Transitional year is almost similar to 3rd year of med school in that you couple month or two in each major medical discipline (ie. IM, surgery, ICU, EM, etc) and there are usually a couple months of elective time as well. You function at the intern level obviously.

Prelim years can be either medicine prelim years or surgery prelim years. As a medicine prelim, you are a medicine intern. As a surgery prelim, you are a surgery intern. After the year is completed, you move on to your speciality.

Anesthesia people usually do either a medicine prelim year or a surgery prelim year. Other programs do not give you an option and tell you which one to do.

Keep in mind surgery interns do not operate, so in many ways medicine interns and surgery interns are the same. However, medicine prelim year is where most people would learn more because surgery interns mostly manage the surgery floor where the patients are on pretty much standardized post-operation routines (except for ICU and EMED months). Both would be rigorous in terms of work hours and call schedules, that applies to interns across the board unless you are at some cush program.

awesome. thank you for the very thorough answer.

Shoot, everyone in my family is going to attend.


It's definately nice to have your family there. I think I had 7 family members there, which was a little ridiculus, but they all live around here so it was hard to tell them no. So they came, took some of those nice embarassing pictures of me in the white coat and then we went out to dinner. :D

Hey guys,

I had posted this in the pre-allopathic forum. Any help will be appreciated.

I was looking at the class schedule for MS1 for the fall semester. It seems like there is a lot of class time involved. Basically, you are in class from 8-4 pm everyday with only an hour break and one afternoon/morning off during the week. I was wondering what you guys thought about this. Is the schedule of similar format second semester MS1 year? What is the schedule like for MS2 year? If anyone could post some info regarding this, I will appreciate it. Anyone who is currently attending GW school of medicine, could you let me know how you felt about the heavy class time that is involved. Also, I wanted to find out how much a one bedroom/two bedroom apartments cost in the foggy bottom area. Please let me know.

thanks,
-ishqbina

Hey guys,

I had posted this in the pre-allopathic forum. Any help will be appreciated.

I was looking at the class schedule for MS1 for the fall semester. It seems like there is a lot of class time involved. Basically, you are in class from 8-4 pm everyday with only an hour break and one afternoon/morning off during the week. I was wondering what you guys thought about this. Is the schedule of similar format second semester MS1 year? What is the schedule like for MS2 year? If anyone could post some info regarding this, I will appreciate it. Anyone who is currently attending GW school of medicine, could you let me know how you felt about the heavy class time that is involved. Also, I wanted to find out how much a one bedroom/two bedroom apartments cost in the foggy bottom area. Please let me know.

thanks,
-ishqbina


I posted a whole big long post answering the schedule question - does anyone know where it is? I couldn't find it -

in brief - sometimes it is a lot of class but you don't have to go - a lot of people just read the lecture notes or listen to them online - 2nd semester of first year is totally different from what's posted on the schedule - it's like 8:30 to 10:30 or 11 and then 2-3:30 ish MWF - most weeks you have half a day off Tues and/or Thurs....oh yeah and you don't have to go to gross lab every time - skip a few sessions and get done at 3. second year you get most Friday afternoons off....etc. etc.

Places in foggy bottom are expensive - check out surrounding areas - like arlington

I'm usually more fun than this but I've been studying for the boards for the last....oh...57 or so hours - straight.

Random question...but does anyone know if there are and what type of banks/atms on campus. Also, what are some of the nearest banks around.
I really want to open a new account somewhere and just wanted something with a convenient location to school.
Thanks :luck:

Random question...but does anyone know if there are and what type of banks/atms on campus. Also, what are some of the nearest banks around.
I really want to open a new account somewhere and just wanted something with a convenient location to school.
Thanks :luck:

I am not sure if there is actually one on campus, but there are Wachovia's really close. Here's a map with them: Wachovia 20037 (http://wachovia.via.infonow.net/locator/ResultPanZoomAction.do;jsessionid=3E75CFA207BA327D 85495572E80A651F.webls2?ZOOM_PERCENTAGE=-2.0&startIndex=1&requestPageMap=resultPage&forward=ResultDisplayAction)

There are also M and T Banks sort of close to campus (like 5 blocks). Here's a map with those: M and T Bank 20037 (http://mandtbank.spatialpoint.com/PrxResults.aspx?&LOC=38.8974867760212%3a-77.0516372344807&CT=38.8974867760212%3a-77.0516372344807%3a3.56252816882738%3a2.6718961266 2054&DSN=MapPoint.NA&GAD2=&GAD3=20037+(postal+code)%2c+District+of+Columbia%2 c+United+States&IC=38.8974867760212%3a-77.0516372344807%3a32%3a20037+(postal+code)%2c+Dis trict+of+Columbia%2c+United+States&GAD4=USA&locType=A%2cB&FC=&site=&DBR=5)

Those are the 2 banks I have accounts with (long story why 2). Hope this helps some. Both of these banks have free checking. If you have any more questions, just let me know.

Hey guys,

I wanted to find out if being at GW medical school, is having a car a necessity? What are some nice places around foggy bottom that are reasonable to live in? Also, is walking the best way to get to campus or will I have to take the metro everyday if I live a little far away from foggy bottom?
Please let me know.

Thanks,
-ishqbina

I am not sure if there is actually one on campus, but there are Wachovia's really close. Here's a map with them: Wachovia 20037 (http://wachovia.via.infonow.net/locator/ResultPanZoomAction.do;jsessionid=3E75CFA207BA327D 85495572E80A651F.webls2?ZOOM_PERCENTAGE=-2.0&startIndex=1&requestPageMap=resultPage&forward=ResultDisplayAction)

There are also M and T Banks sort of close to campus (like 5 blocks). Here's a map with those: M and T Bank 20037 (http://mandtbank.spatialpoint.com/PrxResults.aspx?&LOC=38.8974867760212%3a-77.0516372344807&CT=38.8974867760212%3a-77.0516372344807%3a3.56252816882738%3a2.6718961266 2054&DSN=MapPoint.NA&GAD2=&GAD3=20037+(postal+code)%2c+District+of+Columbia%2 c+United+States&IC=38.8974867760212%3a-77.0516372344807%3a32%3a20037+(postal+code)%2c+Dis trict+of+Columbia%2c+United+States&GAD4=USA&locType=A%2cB&FC=&site=&DBR=5)

Those are the 2 banks I have accounts with (long story why 2). Hope this helps some. Both of these banks have free checking. If you have any more questions, just let me know.


Thanks Waitman192!!

hey gwu2006 or Brickhouse,
do gw students take shelf exams for path or phys?

hey gwu2006 or Brickhouse,
do gw students take shelf exams for path or phys?

yes for path - but the grade we get is curved to the class average. I'm still waiting for my results. :mad:

Random question...but does anyone know if there are and what type of banks/atms on campus. Also, what are some of the nearest banks around.
I really want to open a new account somewhere and just wanted something with a convenient location to school.
Thanks :luck:
There's also a Bank of America ATM in the Academic Center building on the undergrad campus, one block down I street from the med school/hospital.

Hey guys,

I wanted to find out if being at GW medical school, is having a car a necessity? What are some nice places around foggy bottom that are reasonable to live in? Also, is walking the best way to get to campus or will I have to take the metro everyday if I live a little far away from foggy bottom?
Please let me know.

Thanks,
-ishqbina

i'm also interested in what you current students have to say about this too. i think, in my case, my options would be either a) to live in arlington and have a car, or b) to not have a car and live in a more expensive, more convenient place in the foggy bottom area. any suggestions? and, if living in the foggy bottom area, would you say a car is pretty much unnecessary?

thanks again. :thumbup:

I am copying and pasting a reply that I sent to someone else. Here is my take on the whole car issue...

Having a car for years 1 and 2 is definitely not necessary, especially if you live in the foggy bottom area. It is extremely valuable to live within walking distance of school because you can use the library at any time and you save the significant added expense of having a car, insurance, gas, parking space. Parking in DC is usually costly, anymore from $125-175 per month.

The next best option is to live near a metro stop in Virginia. There are many apartment buildings near the numerous metro stops on the Orange Line in Virgnia. Those are convenient. You would save a little bit on rent, but then you would pay approximately $5/day on metro fare roundtrip every day so in the end is probably not much cheaper to live in virginia and take the metro everyday.

In general, the only people who have cars in years 1 and 2 are those who dont live within walking, metro, or bike distance of campus, or those who already have cars and decide to bring them. Often, people with families will live a bit farther out in virginia to get a larger place and they will have to drive at least to the metro parking and then take the metro into DC. GWU is extremely accessible via metro as you noticed when you came to interview.

You can also live in DC in places that are metro accessible, but the problem is that as soon as you start to leave Northwest DC, some of the areas can become unsafe but it is an option. My take on that would be that if you do have to take the metro and not live in foggy bottom, then why not live in Virgnia and take the metro rather than live in DC and take the metro.

Those who do have a car park in the university administered parking garage which is approximately $160 per month. That is pretty much a going rate and there is no free student parking despite our classes' efforts to try and get that changed.

For years 3 and 4, you defintely need a car. You will do rotations at GW Hospital, Inova Fairfax Hospital (Falls Church, Virgnia), Holy Cross Hospital (Silver Spring, MD), Childrens National Medical Center Washington Hospital Center, Washington VA hospitals, and maybe even some outpatient private offices. There is no getting around the necessity of a car for years 3 and 4. To keep a car during yrs 3 and 4, you have to either park on the street which can be challenging at times to find a spot, or use the university garage or your apartment building garage. All of those range between $125-175/month. You dont want to use metered parking because that would be close to $20/day.

To park on the street in DC, your car must be registered in DC and you must have proof of DC resident status (like an apt lease), and then you get a city zone parking sticker for $10. If you try to obtain a parking permit with out of town registration, it is approximately $270-300 per year to get that same permit. However, having the permit does not guarantee a street parking spot, and you still have to search for one every time. Also, remember to register a car in DC I think that you would have to get a DC driver's license and obviously you would pay DC insurance rates too. The only other way to get around it is if you car is registered in MD or VA and you have proof of student status. There might be a concession on parking sticker price in that case.

If you do not already own a car, I would suggest finding a place in the foggy bottom area and dont worry about getting a car. Get a car when it is time for years 3 and 4.

For your POM clinical apprenticeship durings years 1 and 2, you fill out a preferences form during orientation and if you write that you dont have a car, you will given a preceptor office that is metro accessible or within walking distance of campus.

No need for car during yr 1 and 2 especially if you live close by, but defiinitely need a car for year 3 and 4 no matter what.

If cost isn't an issue, then go crazy and bring the nice BMW 7-series to DC with you.

I am copying and pasting a reply that I sent to someone else. Here is my take on the whole car issue...

Having a car for years 1 and 2 is definitely not necessary, especially if you live in the foggy bottom area. It is extremely valuable to live within walking distance of school because you can use the library at any time and you save the significant added expense of having a car, insurance, gas, parking space. Parking in DC is usually costly, anymore from $125-175 per month.

The next best option is to live near a metro stop in Virginia. There are many apartment buildings near the numerous metro stops on the Orange Line in Virgnia. Those are convenient. You would save a little bit on rent, but then you would pay approximately $5/day on metro fare roundtrip every day so in the end is probably not much cheaper to live in virginia and take the metro everyday.

In general, the only people who have cars in years 1 and 2 are those who dont live within walking, metro, or bike distance of campus, or those who already have cars and decide to bring them. Often, people with families will live a bit farther out in virginia to get a larger place and they will have to drive at least to the metro parking and then take the metro into DC. GWU is extremely accessible via metro as you noticed when you came to interview.

You can also live in DC in places that are metro accessible, but the problem is that as soon as you start to leave Northwest DC, some of the areas can become unsafe but it is an option. My take on that would be that if you do have to take the metro and not live in foggy bottom, then why not live in Virgnia and take the metro rather than live in DC and take the metro.

Those who do have a car park in the university administered parking garage which is approximately $160 per month. That is pretty much a going rate and there is no free student parking despite our classes' efforts to try and get that changed.

For years 3 and 4, you defintely need a car. You will do rotations at GW Hospital, Inova Fairfax Hospital (Falls Church, Virgnia), Holy Cross Hospital (Silver Spring, MD), Childrens National Medical Center Washington Hospital Center, Washington VA hospitals, and maybe even some outpatient private offices. There is no getting around the necessity of a car for years 3 and 4. To keep a car during yrs 3 and 4, you have to either park on the street which can be challenging at times to find a spot, or use the university garage or your apartment building garage. All of those range between $125-175/month. You dont want to use metered parking because that would be close to $20/day.

To park on the street in DC, your car must be registered in DC and you must have proof of DC resident status (like an apt lease), and then you get a city zone parking sticker for $10. If you try to obtain a parking permit with out of town registration, it is approximately $270-300 per year to get that same permit. However, having the permit does not guarantee a street parking spot, and you still have to search for one every time. Also, remember to register a car in DC I think that you would have to get a DC driver's license and obviously you would pay DC insurance rates too. The only other way to get around it is if you car is registered in MD or VA and you have proof of student status. There might be a concession on parking sticker price in that case.

If you do not already own a car, I would suggest finding a place in the foggy bottom area and dont worry about getting a car. Get a car when it is time for years 3 and 4.

For your POM clinical apprenticeship durings years 1 and 2, you fill out a preferences form during orientation and if you write that you dont have a car, you will given a preceptor office that is metro accessible or within walking distance of campus.

No need for car during yr 1 and 2 especially if you live close by, but defiinitely need a car for year 3 and 4 no matter what.

If cost isn't an issue, then go crazy and bring the nice BMW 7-series to DC with you.

I am not sure if you will still be able to answer questions but anyone from the gw family, if you can, that would be great.

With the car issue, I definitely do not have one right now and I am planning on living within walking distance from GW. However, how does one go about getting financial aid for the car? Do students just take out extra uncertified loans in order to get a car?

I am not sure if you will still be able to answer questions but anyone from the gw family, if you can, that would be great.

With the car issue, I definitely do not have one right now and I am planning on living within walking distance from GW. However, how does one go about getting financial aid for the car? Do students just take out extra uncertified loans in order to get a car?


My friend was just in this position - she had to take out private loans from BofA. Wait til your third year though.

Hi everyone! Since we're on the car issue - I was wondering how likely it is to find an apt in the area near GW or in Dupont Circle that actually provides a parking space. If your apt doesn't have a parking space, is street parking a viable option?

Hi everyone! Since we're on the car issue - I was wondering how likely it is to find an apt in the area near GW or in Dupont Circle that actually provides a parking space. If your apt doesn't have a parking space, is street parking a viable option?


Most apartment buildings have basement parking garages. You usually have to pay an additional amount of money every month to rent one of those spots. There are other apartment buildings in which all of the apartments are privately owned. If that is the case, then if you go to rent someone's privately owned apartment then one parking spot will often be included. Apartments in converted townhouses often dont have any off-street parking, especially right in Foggy Bottom. Street parking is a possible option but you need a DC residential parking sticker and those cost $270-300/year if you are a non-resident with proof of student status or $10/yr for a DC registered car. Street parking is possible but sometimes it can become frustrating trying to find a spot, especially at certain times of the day. In cetain sections of the city , street parking is not entirely safe and with break ins happening. That is an issue in Southwest, Southeast, but generally most parts of Northwest and Foggy Bottom are safe. If you are a 1st or 2nd year student, then street side parking in Foggy Bottom is an option because your schedule is flexible and you wont use your car daily. As a busy and tired 3rd/4th year student, you dont want to be searching around for a spot.

Thanks for the info gw2006md! I'll probably try to get an apt with garage parking - I think it would be worth it even if it's a little extra money.

Our graduation was yesterday and now I'm taking off. I will not be actively checking these threads, but I will try to check the private messages once in a while if possible. Hopefully I answered some of your questions.

Remember, after you guys become students at GW and progress through the years, make sure to give good advice to all the students who are following behind you. Check these threads and take some time to answer questions. If information exchange happens properly, then year after year GWU med students will continue to get better and better.

If you have suggestions on how to make the med school better or expand its horizens, let the deans know when they ask you. The classes that have come before you have done their best to make as many improvements as possible to make the experience as good as possible for future students like you.

In the long run, GWU med school's success is good for everyone, past, present, and future GW med students.

When you show up to start med school, take things as they come and just worry about one semester at a time. Thinking about 4 rigorous years can seem overwhelming. Enjoy the good times, ride out the tough times, you will make it through med school. Good luck to everyone.

Our graduation was yesterday and now I'm taking off. I will not be actively checking these threads, but I will try to check the private messages once in a while if possible. Hopefully I answered some of your questions.

Remember, after you guys become students at GW and progress through the years, make sure to give good advice to all the students who are following behind you. Check these threads and take some time to answer questions. If information exchange happens properly, then year after year GWU med students will continue to get better and better.

If you have suggestions on how to make the med school better or expand its horizens, let the deans know when they ask you. The classes that have come before you have done their best to make as many improvements as possible to make the experience as good as possible for future students like you.

In the long run, GWU med school's success is good for everyone, past, present, and future GW med students.

When you show up to start med school, take things as they come and just worry about one semester at a time. Thinking about 4 rigorous years can seem overwhelming. Enjoy the good times, ride out the tough times, you will make it through med school. Good luck to everyone.


Thanks for all the advice!! It's always cool to hear people who are on the other side, so to speak...

Congrats to you and go have some fun until your residency starts... you earned it!!!

-waitman

Congratulations graduate! Best of luck!

x

congrats gwu2006md, hope there are many more like you at GW!

hey guys - so, does anyone think it might be a good idea to make a yahoo group for gw2010? does something like that already exist? i was talking to a friend from undergrad who'll also be in our class (!!), and she was saying it'd be great to somehow get to talk to some fellow classmates before we all actually meet during orientation.

do you guys think it's a good idea? does anyone know how to start a yahoo group? (i'm kind of stupid with that stuff.) anyway, maybe if it happens, i can e-mail dean mcquail about it and she can let the other acceptees know about it. that way, people other than those of us on sdn can join in.

so, lemme know what you all think. :thumbup:

-chris

couldn't hurt

I wanted to start the mingling and getting to know eachother (I am big on team environments) but didn't know what was the best way to go about it.

I guess I would rather do email than posting contact info and the like on SDN

go ahead chris, take initiative

hey guys - so, does anyone think it might be a good idea to make a yahoo group for gw2010? does something like that already exist? i was talking to a friend from undergrad who'll also be in our class (!!), and she was saying it'd be great to somehow get to talk to some fellow classmates before we all actually meet during orientation.

do you guys think it's a good idea? does anyone know how to start a yahoo group? (i'm kind of stupid with that stuff.) anyway, maybe if it happens, i can e-mail dean mcquail about it and she can let the other acceptees know about it. that way, people other than those of us on sdn can join in.

so, lemme know what you all think. :thumbup:

-chris

sounds like a great idea!

sounds like a great idea!


I'm down too. I will help you look into it if you want. Just PM me and we can get this started. Can't wait for medical school to start!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (12 weeks and a day!) hehe

-pretty :cool:

Looking on the yahoo website, this thing looks pretty simple.

I am not totally sure about this either, but another option could also be the Google Groups thing. I am sure it's pretty similar to Yahoo's, but I have found that google does a lot better job sorting out spam than Yahoo has done for my email accounts (having accounts for both).

And if anyone is used to the whole threads staying together, I think Google Groups does the same thing - I have loved gmail for that. I looked into it some today, and it didn't seem that complicated..... what do you guys think?

-waitman

Hi guys.

After checking my private messages a few minutes ago and finding the umpteenth message asking about the match list, let me just say that the match list for the class of 2006 was spectacular. Probably the only reason why the entire list has not been released is that it has traditionally not been released. Some of you have an idea from my earlier replies to private messages about what the match list looks like. I wish that the list could be released for you guys to see. Our class was given match result release waiver forms so it is possible that a list will be released sooner or later. Although there is a preliminary/partial list, it would not be proper to cut and paste it to a forum unless the school takes the initiative to release it.

Approximately 15% of graduates who are starting residency immediately after graduation (which is the vast majority of the class...as opposed to going on to other degrees or research prior to residency) matched to a competitive residency at one of the following places: Harvard, Cornell, Columbia, Yale, UPenn, Johns Hopkins, Washington of St Louis, Mayo Clinic rochester, and UCSF alone. By any standard, that is a great match.

What I hope to illustrate by giving this percentage is that you can match to virtually any residency at virtually any hospital as a gwu med student. Any speculation that the match is poor is COMPLETELY unfounded and is based entirely on GW's history of not publishing the entire match list. (a trend which may have started way back in the old days when the match list was not as great as it is now)

My other remark on this issue would be that regardless of what the match list has looked like in the past, your match will depend entirely on the grades and board score that you earn and your clinical performance. If your board score is the minimum passing score and your grades are average, no med school can help you match into a top-notch residency unless your mom or dad is chairman of the dept somewhere. On the other hand, as a GWU student, if your board scores are in the competitive range and your grades are rock solid, you have an excellent chance at matching to a residency of your choice.

Given the choice between Johns Hopkins med school and GWU, you would choose Hopkins, but at the same time GWU is not a bottom tier school.

hey guys - so, does anyone think it might be a good idea to make a yahoo group for gw2010? does something like that already exist? i was talking to a friend from undergrad who'll also be in our class (!!), and she was saying it'd be great to somehow get to talk to some fellow classmates before we all actually meet during orientation.

do you guys think it's a good idea? does anyone know how to start a yahoo group? (i'm kind of stupid with that stuff.) anyway, maybe if it happens, i can e-mail dean mcquail about it and she can let the other acceptees know about it. that way, people other than those of us on sdn can join in.

so, lemme know what you all think. :thumbup:

-chris

I have both yahoo and google accts, but I agree w/ waitman that google is great for organizing messages. It does look pretty simple. I think if you're logged into google you can just click on "more" on the top left, then to groups, then to create a new group. It'll ask you to create a group name, email address, and description. you should have the honors since it was your awesome idea to get this started. Let me know what name you end up deciding so I can sign up.

12 wks and counting :D

where are you going? they actually did release the match list this year. I thought it was decent - lots of kids going to Cali so I hope I'll get to go home at the end of all this too.

I'm down with the groups too, but slightly internet technologically challenged. I'm surprised I even found student doctor network and to tell the truth just lurked for awhile unsure if I would be able to figure out how to post messages. But I will happily join a group if you tell me how to get to it!

so, i'm going to go ahead and make a google group. it looks real easy. i'll post the address link as soon as it's up and ready.

Alright everyone,

i've made the group (GW Med 2010), and anyone is able to join. you don't need a gmail account, just any old e-mail.

here's how it works (for those of you who use gmail, it's pretty much the same thing): people can create individual topics (let's say, "housing"), and then members can make individual posts under that topic. all posts within that topic show up in order when you click on the topic heading. it's really convenient, and i think it will work out well. since anyone can join, hopefully upperclassmen, or graduates or faculty will post from time to time with helpful advice.

so, if you guys have other friends going to gw who don't use sdn, pass the word along. if people find this group useful as a communication tool, i'll inform admissions and hopefully they'll be able to spread the word along to everyone who's coming!

here's the link:
http://groups.google.com/group/GW-Med-2010

Ok so I signed up

the thing is that anyone can look up the info posted on this, you can just search through Google Groups

The thing with Yahoo Groups, is that it is completely through email. Like if we set up GWMed2010@yahoogroups.com you can send an email to that address and everyone can gets it in their email.

Can we do that with Google groups also?

I am totally trying not to be difficult, I am just trying to protect everyone's privacy ya know?

On a side note, any GW peoples currently in LA?

[QUOTE=bigdreamer]Ok so I signed up

the thing is that anyone can look up the info posted on this, you can just search through Google Groups

The thing with Yahoo Groups, is that it is completely through email. Like if we set up GWMed2010@yahoogroups.com you can send an email to that address and everyone can gets it in their email.

Can we do that with Google groups also? QUOTE]

yup the email address is GW-Med-2010@googlegroups.com.
it looks like discussion groups on yahoo are searchable too. i think it's just a matter of the group moderator changing the access settings to restrict messages to members only or even accept/reject requests to join the group, but i don't really see random people wanting to join, but ya never know lol. i'm ok with it either way. i think you raise a very good point and i will be mindful of posting really private info. thanks!

hey,

so, yeah, i agree with your concerns. when i made the group, i fixed the settings so that (a)only members could search posts, (b) only members could see the posts, and (c) only members could make posts. however, when i'm not signed in, i am able to search for the group. and, if i click on the group name a few times (sometimes it takes one or two tries), it allows me to read entire messages. i did this on another computer in my house as a test. so, it seems like google group security is flawed. if this can't be fixed, i think that maybe we should try yahoo instead. it's too bad, though. google groups seemed really convenient!

i'll let you know what i can find out.

alright, so, actually, i think the problem is actually fixed. i think the security settings just needed some time to take effect, because they seem to work now.

so, any old person can do a google groups search and find the gw med 2010 group. however, unless that person is a member, s/he cannot see posts nor can s/he make posts.

one thing that is public is membership. so, anyone can come along and become a member and then see/make posts. as the moderator, i can change the setting so that people need my approval to become members. however, at this point in time, it seems silly to do that. we'll never get enough members that way. maybe, once membership builds up and other people from our class hear about it, then we can change the settings so that membership must be approved.

anyway, i was wondering if any of you can do a test to make sure that security is working now. without signing in, search google groups for our group. then, when you find it, see if you can access any posts. if not, then i guess it's all fixed. let me know. thanks.

x

Confirming... I can't access the posts without signing in.


cool, you guys are great!

Hi 2010!

Just wanted to introduce myself on the board. I'm Fred, a 3rd year. You'll probably be hearing lots from me in the future as I try to organize lots of fun things at school. I wanted to give out my first tip which is to sign up for a gmail account if you don't already have one. This way you can forward your GWU email to your gmail and not lose any files or have to delete anything. GW only offers 20MB of email space. You'll get an orientation handout on how to sign up for your GW email and to forward it to gmail, but I thought I'd give that tip out early.

Also, this year, the Dean's calendar will be posted onto the Google Calendar at some point, so I'd suggest signing up for that as well. You'll be able to automatically add events (like interest group meetings) from an email you read straight to your Google Calendar.

Enjoy your summer and see you in August. Is anyone living in HOVA? Just curious... I'll be there :)

Hi Freddy! I love how upper-classman seem so involved in making changes for the better at GW! It seems like you all have a really great group there.

Now sorry to sound dumb, but what do you need to sign up for to get access to the google calendar?

Now sorry to sound dumb, but what do you need to sign up for to get access to the google calendar?


and how do you get your gwu mail forwarded to your gmail?

(I am way to over anxious, but I am bored at work)

x

Hi guys.

After checking my private messages a few minutes ago and finding the umpteenth message asking about the match list, let me just say that the match list for the class of 2006 was spectacular. Probably the only reason why the entire list has not been released is that it has traditionally not been released. Some of you have an idea from my earlier replies to private messages about what the match list looks like. I wish that the list could be released for you guys to see. Our class was given match result release waiver forms so it is possible that a list will be released sooner or later. Although there is a preliminary/partial list, it would not be proper to cut and paste it to a forum unless the school takes the initiative to release it.

Approximately 15% of graduates who are starting residency immediately after graduation (which is the vast majority of the class...as opposed to going on to other degrees or research prior to residency) matched to a competitive residency at one of the following places: Harvard, Cornell, Columbia, Yale, UPenn, Johns Hopkins, Washington of St Louis, Mayo Clinic rochester, and UCSF alone. By any standard, that is a great match.

What I hope to illustrate by giving this percentage is that you can match to virtually any residency at virtually any hospital as a gwu med student. Any speculation that the match is poor is COMPLETELY unfounded and is based entirely on GW's history of not publishing the entire match list. (a trend which may have started way back in the old days when the match list was not as great as it is now)

My other remark on this issue would be that regardless of what the match list has looked like in the past, your match will depend entirely on the grades and board score that you earn and your clinical performance. If your board score is the minimum passing score and your grades are average, no med school can help you match into a top-notch residency unless your mom or dad is chairman of the dept somewhere. On the other hand, as a GWU student, if your board scores are in the competitive range and your grades are rock solid, you have an excellent chance at matching to a residency of your choice.

Given the choice between Johns Hopkins med school and GWU, you would choose Hopkins, but at the same time GWU is not a bottom tier school.

As an upcoming 4th year, I will agree that the Match List was awesome! Almost all of the 4th years I know matched at one of their top choice residency programs.

However, I want to give everyone some advice. Take the Match Lists with a grain of salt. There are lot more factors than just the school that go into these lists. You have to look at student preference for the various specialties, demographics of the class, and other student factors. I have known people who have gotten interviews at some of the most prestigious residency programs in the country and then end up not ranking them because they didn't want to be too far away from their family, it wasn't a good time for their spouse to relocate, or they simply did not like the program for whatever reason. It is more important to look at whether or not people matched in places and specialties that they wanted.

My advisor told me that when I start interviewing that I need to rank those programs that felt right for me the highest---not to worry about prestige, rank, or location. Residency is a hard time in medical training and you want to be in a program where you are going to be happy.

Does anyone know the exact date of the White Coat Ceremony?

I am thinking that is the only day that my parents have to be around during the Orientation between the 16th and 22nd, right?

Thanks!

Does anyone know the exact date of the White Coat Ceremony?

I am thinking that is the only day that my parents have to be around during the Orientation between the 16th and 22nd, right?

Thanks!


Its on Aug 19th.

What's HOVA?

Does anyone live at River Place? I'm thinking of buying a unit there.
Audra


Hi 2010!

Just wanted to introduce myself on the board. I'm Fred, a 3rd year. You'll probably be hearing lots from me in the future as I try to organize lots of fun things at school. I wanted to give out my first tip which is to sign up for a gmail account if you don't already have one. This way you can forward your GWU email to your gmail and not lose any files or have to delete anything. GW only offers 20MB of email space. You'll get an orientation handout on how to sign up for your GW email and to forward it to gmail, but I thought I'd give that tip out early.

Also, this year, the Dean's calendar will be posted onto the Google Calendar at some point, so I'd suggest signing up for that as well. You'll be able to automatically add events (like interest group meetings) from an email you read straight to your Google Calendar.

Enjoy your summer and see you in August. Is anyone living in HOVA? Just curious... I'll be there :)

I just signed a lease for an apt in the Jefferson House this past weekend...1 step closer :)

I just signed a lease for an apt in the Jefferson House this past weekend...1 step closer :)

hey, congrats! how'd you go about finding places in the jefferson house? i've seen a couple listed on craigslist, but they were available immediately rather than around august 1, when i'd like to move in.

thanks :thumbup:

I just signed a lease for an apt in the Jefferson House this past weekend...1 step closer :)

Really? You decided to go with Jefferson House? Do you mind sharing your thoughts on how you came to choose it? I thought the units were small and not very well maintained... though I suppose it is all relative! :p Living across the street is a huge convenience... that will be super nice! Did you get a 1 bedroom or efficiency?

hey, congrats! how'd you go about finding places in the jefferson house? i've seen a couple listed on craigslist, but they were available immediately rather than around august 1, when i'd like to move in.

thanks :thumbup:

thanks medstylee! I'm not sure if your from around the area, but if you can get down to GW just go from building to building asking the front desk if you can look at their rental books. That's what I did. I tried the whole internet search too, and even called a bunch of the apartment complexes for rentals but wasn't getting anywhere. Being that I'm from NY I knew I had to just take a weekend and go down myself and actively hunt for apts. Make sure you have at least 2 days to spare for the hunt.
Also, sometimes if you call real-estate agents in the area they can help you out too.
I signed my lease starting for July, even though I won't be moving in until August. I wasnt super thrilled about that, but I just didnt want to take a chance with not getting an apartment later on. Some people told me I was too late in the game and others said to wait until late June or early July. Personally, I think it would be best to start looking now, because there was this one apartment I saw nearby GWU that 20 people had expressed interest in seeing. And even though I was number 2 on the list, the girl who saw it before me had decided to sign the lease. BUT still not to worry you'll definitely find something. There are tons of apartment complexes and this is the prime time that most of them become available.
Let me know if you have anymore questions, and how your search goes! Good LUCK!!! :luck:

Really? You decided to go with Jefferson House? Do you mind sharing your thoughts on how you came to choose it? I thought the units were small and not very well maintained... though I suppose it is all relative! :p Living across the street is a huge convenience... that will be super nice! Did you get a 1 bedroom or efficiency?

Hey Audramill! You really didn't like the Jefferson House? I saw a couple of buildings and out of them I thought JH was the best one for me. I mean there are certain things I didn't like, for one the hallways seemed kinda old, my bathroom/ kitchen need some work. BUT I figured it's all give and take, right? I mean you definitely can't beat the convenience. I have an efficiency, and compared to other apt complexes I found mine to be fairly large and bright and sunny. It's also faces the front of the building so that may make a difference. The staff in JH seemed really friendly and helpful. I saw an apt in the President Condo and it was so tiny, I think 300 square feet. And even though the studio was in the front of the building it was dark and dreary. Also, the kitchen was sooo tiny, barely room for 1 person, it just seemed to depressing for me. Personally, I think if you can walk into a place and envision yourself in it then you know you found something you'll be happy with.
Have you decided on anything yet, or are you still looking?
Let me know if you have any more questions! :)

Hi 2010!

Just wanted to introduce myself on the board. I'm Fred, a 3rd year. You'll probably be hearing lots from me in the future as I try to organize lots of fun things at school. I wanted to give out my first tip which is to sign up for a gmail account if you don't already have one. This way you can forward your GWU email to your gmail and not lose any files or have to delete anything. GW only offers 20MB of email space. You'll get an orientation handout on how to sign up for your GW email and to forward it to gmail, but I thought I'd give that tip out early.

Also, this year, the Dean's calendar will be posted onto the Google Calendar at some point, so I'd suggest signing up for that as well. You'll be able to automatically add events (like interest group meetings) from an email you read straight to your Google Calendar.

Enjoy your summer and see you in August. Is anyone living in HOVA? Just curious... I'll be there :)


Hey Fred-

I'll be in HOVA. I'm a little apprehensive about moving back onto campus (I went to undergrad at GW), but hey, for the price, I figured why the heck not?!

I heard they were doing some renovations. Do you have any idea if this is true, and if so, to what extent? Not that I'm all that picky. I've seen HOVA rooms, and they're fine with me, but I was just wondering.

:)

thanks medstylee! I'm not sure if your from around the area, but if you can get down to GW just go from building to building asking the front desk if you can look at their rental books. That's what I did. I tried the whole internet search too, and even called a bunch of the apartment complexes for rentals but wasn't getting anywhere. Being that I'm from NY I knew I had to just take a weekend and go down myself and actively hunt for apts. Make sure you have at least 2 days to spare for the hunt.
Also, sometimes if you call real-estate agents in the area they can help you out too.
I signed my lease starting for July, even though I won't be moving in until August. I wasnt super thrilled about that, but I just didnt want to take a chance with not getting an apartment later on. Some people told me I was too late in the game and others said to wait until late June or early July. Personally, I think it would be best to start looking now, because there was this one apartment I saw nearby GWU that 20 people had expressed interest in seeing. And even though I was number 2 on the list, the girl who saw it before me had decided to sign the lease. BUT still not to worry you'll definitely find something. There are tons of apartment complexes and this is the prime time that most of them become available.
Let me know if you have anymore questions, and how your search goes! Good LUCK!!! :luck:

hey brook - thanks a ton for the advice. that's a little scary about some of the places saying you're too late! i think i'll probably be "sick" for work one day and just drive down to dc and check out a few places. probably the jefferson, claridge, 2400 penn, etc. all the regulars. another friend of mine had great luck doing that. anyway, yeah, thanks again.

ps. were there any other buildings that you liked, that you'd recommend that i check out?

hey brook - thanks a ton for the advice. that's a little scary about some of the places saying you're too late! i think i'll probably be "sick" for work one day and just drive down to dc and check out a few places. probably the jefferson, claridge, 2400 penn, etc. all the regulars. another friend of mine had great luck doing that. anyway, yeah, thanks again.

ps. were there any other buildings that you liked, that you'd recommend that i check out?

Your welcome! :)I'm always happy to help :)
But, I cant really think of any other buildings just the regulars that are listed on some of the websites. I'm assuming to want to be close to school, but I'm not quite sure of your price range. You can also check out the Elise. Its like down the street from JH. I didn't get to go inside but another student told me she rented there before and the apartments were fairly large and reasonably priced. Also, if you do decide on the President Condo watch out for the apartments facing the back of the building, apparently there's a truck that comes to empty the dumpster 530am every morn, well unless your really a morning person then its great. :p Anyways, one of the receptionist gave me the number of a real-estate agent who offered to show me some apartments on New Hampshire Ave (the other side of the circle) and K street. Even though they're not that far from the school, they were similarly priced to what I had already found. But its all relative. Anyways, good luck!!

Hey Fred-

I'll be in HOVA. I'm a little apprehensive about moving back onto campus (I went to undergrad at GW), but hey, for the price, I figured why the heck not?!

I heard they were doing some renovations. Do you have any idea if this is true, and if so, to what extent? Not that I'm all that picky. I've seen HOVA rooms, and they're fine with me, but I was just wondering.

:)

I have no clue about renovations other than removing some extra furniture that was there for the undergrads. See ya soon...

I have no clue about renovations other than removing some extra furniture that was there for the undergrads. See ya soon...

I didn't realize HOVA would be open to upperclassmen. Do you think alot of you are signing up for it? Also, I signed up for HOVA but never got a chance to look at it. What's the kitchen like, is it just one stove in the basement? Are the single rooms the same size as the doubles? Do the rooms have carpets? And how big are the closets?
Like I said I signed the license agreement without seeing the rooms, I live in NY and I just had no time to come take a look. If anyone can answer my questions that would be a big help. Thanks.

I am all the way over in Cali and will not have a chance to actually see the apartment that I am moving into until I get there.

I am planning on living with 2 law school people and one is there right now looking around. The problem is that they both have a little more money than I do. I just wanted to know that it would be unreasonable to find a 3 bedroom place where I can pay 800 in Dupont? The place he found was $1100-1200 per person, and that just doesn't seem right.

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I am all the way over in Cali and will not have a chance to actually see the apartment that I am moving into until I get there.

I am planning on living with 2 law school people and one is there right now looking around. The problem is that they both have a little more money than I do. I just wanted to know that it would be unreasonable to find a 3 bedroom place where I can pay 800 in Dupont? The place he found was $1100-1200 per person, and that just doesn't seem right.

You are definitely not gonna find a 3 bedroom in dupont for $800...1100-1200 is about right..hey MD Rapper, you did physio while living in Dupont? where did you live and how much did u pay? congrats on getting in to gw by the way

I am all the way over in Cali and will not have a chance to actually see the apartment that I am moving into until I get there.

I am planning on living with 2 law school people and one is there right now looking around. The problem is that they both have a little more money than I do. I just wanted to know that it would be unreasonable to find a 3 bedroom place where I can pay 800 in Dupont? The place he found was $1100-1200 per person, and that just doesn't seem right.

That's actually a really good price. I don't think there's anything besides crappy student studios for less than $1000 anywhere near campus - I pay $1000 and I live 4 miles from school.

I had to move from Cali without ever seeing the place too and it worked out fabulously!

That's actually a really good price. I don't think there's anything besides crappy student studios for less than $1000 anywhere near campus - I pay $1000 and I live 4 miles from school.

I had to move from Cali without ever seeing the place too and it worked out fabulously!

:laugh: great avatar

:laugh: great avatar

haha thank you!

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Hey guys,

As of now, looks like that I will be attending GWU School of Medicine. I was wondering if any of you guys happen to know what the grading system is like at GWU. I'm not sure if it is pass/fail or based on a grading scale. If anyone could get back to me, I'll appreciate it.

Thanks,
-ishqbina

just wondering...

did any of you guys choose gw over your state school(s), despite a large tuition difference? i was just suddenly and unexpectedly confronted with this choice. i know, i know, i should go with my gut feeling - my gut says "go to gw." so, yeah, i'm not really looking for advise. rather, i'm just curious to see how many others (if any on this thread) made this decision. thanks guys.

Hey guys,

As of now, looks like that I will be attending GWU School of Medicine. I was wondering if any of you guys happen to know what the grading system is like at GWU. I'm not sure if it is pass/fail or based on a grading scale. If anyone could get back to me, I'll appreciate it.

Thanks,
-ishqbina

I think its Honors/Pass/Conditional/Fail...Im not sure though

just wondering...

did any of you guys choose gw over your state school(s), despite a large tuition difference? i was just suddenly and unexpectedly confronted with this choice. i know, i know, i should go with my gut feeling - my gut says "go to gw." so, yeah, i'm not really looking for advise. rather, i'm just curious to see how many others (if any on this thread) made this decision. thanks guys.

What's your state school?

I think its Honors/Pass/Conditional/Fail...Im not sure though

correctamundo

What's your state school?

suny upstate

just wondering...

did any of you guys choose gw over your state school(s), despite a large tuition difference? i was just suddenly and unexpectedly confronted with this choice. i know, i know, i should go with my gut feeling - my gut says "go to gw." so, yeah, i'm not really looking for advise. rather, i'm just curious to see how many others (if any on this thread) made this decision. thanks guys.


I did! I picked GW over a couple of cheaper options, including a higher ranked school and a state school where tuition is HALF of what tuition at GW is.

Good luck in making your decision! Trust me, I know how tough it is :o But as Napoleon Dynamite wisely advised Pedro, "Just follow your heart. That's what I do."

I just declined an instate UC acceptance for GW.

I might be in a little different situation than you though. My big thing with instate (SoCal) is that I have been here all my life. Grew up in LA county and went to UCLA. I have been itching to get out. I just don't think I have been outside of the box that I have grown up in. I can't imagine living my whole lie within a 40 mile radius. I love my parents/friends/family that I have out here, but I am more excited to be in a new environment with a clean slate- Tabula Rasa!

I have embraced the fact that I will be really in debt, once I got past the money difference, GW provided the environment that I really want to be in, I hope =)

I just declined an instate UC acceptance for GW.

I might be in a little different situation than you though. My big thing with instate (SoCal) is that I have been here all my life. Grew up in LA county and went to UCLA. I have been itching to get out. I just don't think I have been outside of the box that I have grown up in. I can't imagine living my whole lie within a 40 mile radius. I love my parents/friends/family that I have out here, but I am more excited to be in a new environment with a clean slate- Tabula Rasa!

I have embraced the fact that I will be really in debt, once I got past the money difference, GW provided the environment that I really want to be in, I hope =)


Wow, that's really brave. I went to UCLA too and didn't get any instate acceptances but probably would've taken one if I got it.
I feel like you though, I was ready to get out of L.A. after 21 years and see another part of the country and I don't regret it at all. And GW is very Californian friendly. I do sort of hope to come home for residency though. I know I won't have long stretches of time to visit home then and I can't imagine not seeing my brother and best friend for 6 months at a time. But whatever, I am enjoying the seasons and other differences here.

ok. i came to my senses. i'm sticking with gw. what's a hundred thousand dollars anyway? right? see you guys in august, and on the google group.

speaking of the google group... it's blowin up! how about that! (thanks dean mcquail) :thumbup:

Personally, I think if you can walk into a place and envision yourself in it then you know you found something you'll be happy with.

absolutely true. (i think im quoting BrookMD)

this is basically how I hunted for a place to live. I'll be starting at GW Med in the Fall, and obviously finding a place to live was a huge task. I worked with a real estate agent for a bit, but several of the units he showed me were real old and dreary looking ... i just thought to myself - "can i really live here for 1 or more years?" ... price was def an issue, but honestly I'd be willing to pay a little bit more for a better looking place ...

I guess it's similar to picking GW over an in-state school you're apprehensive about? GW will put a dent in ur wallet, but if you know you'll be happier there .... u just gotta go with ur gut feeling...

I have no clue about renovations other than removing some extra furniture that was there for the undergrads. See ya soon...

REP POINT for Fred!

Hi all! It's so nice to see so many people posting here and on the google chat board!

I just took a trip to DC to look for a place and found what I felt was a great place for a great price at The Shoremeade on K St and 25th. Problem is, I just did a google search of it and found that a grad student at GW was murdered in the same building on the same floor of the apt I'm looking at. Does anyone know about this case? It seems like a really safe place (7 minute walk to GW), but should I be concerned about my safety there?

Hi all! It's so nice to see so many people posting here and on the google chat board!

I just took a trip to DC to look for a place and found what I felt was a great place for a great price at The Shoremeade on K St and 25th. Problem is, I just did a google search of it and found that a grad student at GW was murdered in the same building on the same floor of the apt I'm looking at. Does anyone know about this case? It seems like a really safe place (7 minute walk to GW), but should I be concerned about my safety there?


SCARY!!!

You definitely should find out if it was a random act or not. Have you talked to the manager about this? When you talk to him, ask him what changes in security has he made since.

If after all that you still feel its safe, then don't dwell on it too much. I know it must be a lil creepy, but I hope it created a much safer situation in that building.

Good luck! Let us know the story when you find out.

I read that story some time ago (like back in february when I was looking for apts. I know...I started EARLY!). It was a grad student and an attempted robbery by two men. I think they caughts

Below is the link to the website that has a story on this event. You have to register with the site to read it and do a search for the shoremeade or something like that to read it. I didn't register...i did something like copy and paste it somewhere and read it but I dont remember the details right now and I dont want to give you the wrong info.

In all, I think that everything will be ok.


http://www.gwhatchet.com/user/index.cfm?event=displayRegistrationPrompt&thereferer=http%3A//www.gwhatchet.com/media/storage/paper332/news/2002/07/08/News/Krug-Murder.Suspect.Awaits.Trial-257621.shtml%3Fnorewrite200606051043%26sourcedomai n%3Dwww.gwhatchet.com

Is SDN finally back up? I feel like I went through withdrawal. Thanks bigdreamer and pretty for the info on the murder. :eek: I talked to the building manager, but she only started a few months ago and didn't know about the case. But she was really nice about it and said that she would talk to her supervisor about it and get back to me. I'm thinking I'm probably still gonna go through with the apartment. I'm not even superstitious, but I might do some ritual cleansing before I move in!

Hello fellow classmates,

I wanted to let you know that I'm 90% sure that I will be attending GWU School of Medicine. I look forward to meeting many of you soon. I was wondering if anyone can suggest some reasonably priced places to live around the Foggy Bottom area (15-20 min walk). Also, if anyone is looking for a roommate, let me know. Any posts will be appreciated. Thanks and congratulations to everyone.

-ishqbina

Hi ishqbina,

I would suggest posting on the GW med google group http://groups.google.com/group/GW-Med-2010

Lots of people seem to be looking for roommates there, plus lots of tips on finding housing!

Hello fellow classmates,

I wanted to let you know that I'm 90% sure that I will be attending GWU School of Medicine. I look forward to meeting many of you soon. I was wondering if anyone can suggest some reasonably priced places to live around the Foggy Bottom area (15-20 min walk). Also, if anyone is looking for a roommate, let me know. Any posts will be appreciated. Thanks and congratulations to everyone.

-ishqbina

hey, i was just in dc this past weekend looking at a few apartments. i've found craigslist to be a great resource. just type in foggy bottom or also gwu. it seems like several new places are added everyday. i looked at 2400 pennsylvania ave, which is an actual apartment building controlled by a realty co. the apartments were decently priced for the area ($1250-$1300 for a studio) and some of them have been recently remodeled. i looked at places in the jefferson house, where a lot of gw med students live. but, they seemed to be more expensive (place has a pool) and not very nice. i saw two really great places in the bon wit plaza, and i will be renting one of those for this year.

the best thing to do would be to call up the different apartment buildings or condos and ask about availability. it seems like there are more buildings with individually owned condos/co-ops than apartments.

these links list a bunch of buildings near the med school:
http://gwired.gwu.edu/offcampus/find/ApartmentBuildingsNeartheGWCampus/
http://www.law.gwu.edu/NR/rdonlyres/39EFD717-9C78-43B5-8671-4C8B67880B7B/0/apt_list_0405.pdf

the places around K, L, I, and H streets and 22nd through 25th streets are closest to the med center. i've heard it's not the best idea to live to far into the undergrad campus (too loud, etc). anyway, best of luck.

hey all,

i was just curious about something. how many people from the med class come from the combined ba/md programs each year?

hey all,

i was just curious about something. how many people from the med class come from the combined ba/md programs each year?

It seems like quite a few - are you one of them?

This thread needs to not be on page 9 anymore....

It seems like quite a few - are you one of them?

nah, not me. i didn't go to gw for undergrad. we started a google group for our class and i was just noticing that there seems to be quite a few 20/21 year olds who just graduated from gw undergrad. anyway, it's not a big deal to me. i was just curious.

nah, not me. i didn't go to gw for undergrad. we started a google group for our class and i was just noticing that there seems to be quite a few 20/21 year olds who just graduated from gw undergrad. anyway, it's not a big deal to me. i was just curious.

g-dub also has an early acceptance program where students apply at the end of their sophomore year and if accepted, matriculate at gw med school after graduating undergrad w/o ever having to take the mcat...

nah, not me. i didn't go to gw for undergrad. we started a google group for our class and i was just noticing that there seems to be quite a few 20/21 year olds who just graduated from gw undergrad. anyway, it's not a big deal to me. i was just curious.


I think one of the things I love about my class is that there is a large percentage of non-trads like myself, and we are a close-knit group - I think 10 of us turn 30 this year and a bunch of other are late 20's.
But I do love the little'uns too - I feel like a big sister to them. I just wonder if they might have liked to spend their early 20s seeing more of life than the wall of a library. I think 7 years straight predisposes to burn out, and I'm always trying to encourage them when they struggle and question their decision. :o It's tough. But I guess not bad too be making 6 figures by late 20's, either!

I think one of the things I love about my class is that there is a large percentage of non-trads like myself, and we are a close-knit group - I think 10 of us turn 30 this year and a bunch of other are late 20's.
But I do love the little'uns too - I feel like a big sister to them. I just wonder if they might have liked to spend their early 20s seeing more of life than the wall of a library. I think 7 years straight predisposes to burn out, and I'm always trying to encourage them when they struggle and question their decision. :o It's tough. But I guess not bad too be making 6 figures by late 20's, either!

30? she means she turned 21 ;)

30? she means she turned 21 ;)


:laugh: yeah that's right. Did you take the test already Fred?

I just got accepted off of the waitlist today! GW was my top choice, so I'm so happy. Actually, I'm kind of in shock, but I know I'll be excited later.

Just wanted to say hi to my fellow future Colonials!

CONGRATULATIONS!!!! I've been seeing your posts on the GW waitlist thread and hoping some of you would get in. Welcome!

CONGRATULATIONS!!!! I've been seeing your posts on the GW waitlist thread and hoping some of you would get in. Welcome!

Thanks. :)

I've heard there's a google group too. Do you know the link?

Thanks. :)

I've heard there's a google group too. Do you know the link?


Here's the link tac-

http://groups.google.com/group/GW-Med-2010

You just need to sign up for it. There are a bunch of threads going... happy reading!!

Congrats again!!!!!

Bump. No page 2 for the GW thread!

It seems everyone left for the Google Group, and now I am here on SDN all alone. I suppose I'll just study some Wheater's Functional Histology now until I make the great eastward trek to Foggy Bottom.

Just curious to know everyone's thoughts on this recent "crime emergency" announcement for DC? Something about a recent crime increase in all parts of DC. I'm not sure what to make of it but, DC dwellers do you think this is a matter for concern? I was looking forward to morning jogs around the monuments I'm starting to rethink it. Especially since there were recent muggings of tourist near the monument. I promise I'm not making this up it's in the washington post.