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Acfd2007
04-27-2008, 12:08 AM
253. Which of the following will correct right away?
a. AOB + thumb sucking + tongue thrust
b. Class ill
c. Crossbite
254. Mesiodens +diastema + lateral tipped distally
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52.What is true about Mandibular growth-it growth vertically than
horizontally
Or latent growth in premature sprut
-:( girls complete mandibular growth 100% by age 13


57.What to treat fIrst ?? Anterior open bite with thump sucking or
crossbite
interfere with
58.how do you know a malocclusion is skeletal or dental in nature
Physiologic movement
132.Mesial Terminal plane include----Class I and class III or class II
l33.If fracture unilateral condyle on a child-what would happen
Affect mandibular growth:idea:
Ankylosis
Class II
l35.if 16 erupting but 55 interfer distally with erupting 16 -what to
do?
Trimm distal side of 55 or extract 55 or extract 16

Docn
04-29-2008, 09:38 AM
dietary deficiency of vitamin D can result in
A Abnormal formation of Osteoid
B Osteitis fibrosa cystica

Most ZOE Cements are not suitable for permanent cementation of crowns and fixed partial dentures because of
A High viscosity
B High solubility in saliva
:)

teethfairy32
04-29-2008, 10:38 AM
A patient with severe bleeding disorder, which holds the least risk:

A- inferior alveolar nerve block injection.
B- subgingival restoration.
C- supragingival scaling.

PLANT
04-29-2008, 10:40 AM
..A patient with severe bleeding disorder, which holds the least risk:

A- inferior alveolar nerve block injection.:thumbup:
B- subgingival restoration.
C- supragingival scaling.

Acfd2007
04-29-2008, 12:36 PM
dietary deficiency of vitamin D can result in
A Abnormal formation of Osteoid
B Osteitis fibrosa cystica

Most ZOE Cements are not suitable for permanent cementation of crowns and fixed partial dentures because of
A High viscosity
B High solubility in saliva :)

A patient with severe bleeding disorder, which holds the least risk:

A- inferior alveolar nerve block injection.
B- subgingival restoration.
C- supragingival scaling.

Acfd2007
04-29-2008, 03:33 PM
occlusal adjustment of natural teeth with opposing partial or complete denture is done during?

a. after the teeth are set on the trial denture
b. after the denture is casted
c. during the delivery of the denture
d. after the initial diagnosis and treatment planning

In periapical films, the coronoid process can obliterate the apices of
A- Maxillary 3rd molars.
B- Maxillary 2nd molars.
C- Mandibular 3rd molars.
D- Mand 2nd molars.

A radiolucent multilocular expansile lesion in the mandible which shows benign giant cells and … and fibers; what should you do
1-order further microscopic examination.
2-examine blood calcium.
3-prescribe antibiotic therapy.

Acfd2007
04-29-2008, 03:43 PM
Chronic Nasal constriction with resultant mouth breathing, may cause
A- Increase in lower facial height.
B- Increase in lower facial height & maxillary constriction.
C- Increase in lower facial height, maxillary constriction & crowding of lower anterior teeth.
D- Difficult to evaluate.


Which of the following will increase the chance of a replantation of an avulsed tooth
1-placing tooth into mouth.
2-placing tooth into physiologic saline water.
3-placing tooth into fluoride.
4-waiting till next day.

a patient whose mandible deviates to left upon opening causing a unilateral crossbite; when he closes in centric he presents bilateral cross bite and the midline is concomitant. This patient has
1)two separate occlusions. 2)true unilateral crossbite. 3)hypertrophy of one of the TMJs. 4)occlusal interference.
Which of the following is not associated with Infectious mononucleosis (MULTIPLE ANSWERS??)
1-Pharyngitis.
2-Lymphadenopathy.
3-Peteciae.
4-Gingival enlargement.
5-Fatigue.
The most important mechanical property for a PFM long & narrow span brige is
1-elastic modulus.
2-P.L.
3-Toughness.
4-Tensile strength.
major vascular supply of buccal gingiva is thru
1)intra-alveolar vessels.
2)Superficial vessels.
3)PDL vessels.

Primary radiograph for endo is to determine
1-working length. 2-shape of chamber & canals

Docn
04-29-2008, 06:42 PM
..thanks

Docn
04-29-2008, 06:44 PM
..ok

dr.ymp
04-29-2008, 07:21 PM
......

Acfd2007
04-29-2008, 08:50 PM
i think Could you explain what is the reason to do further microscopic analysis?? for this question????

A radiolucent multilocular expansile lesion in the mandible which shows benign giant cells and … and fibers; what should you do
1-order further microscopic examination.
2-examine blood calcium.
3-prescribe antibiotic therapy.

Acfd2007
05-04-2008, 11:07 AM
i feel few answers in ASDA part2-L are wrong does any one have same opinion

dralana1977
05-05-2008, 06:57 AM
I do

Acfd2007
05-05-2008, 03:30 PM
I do

can u plz discuss the questions which u feel have incorrect answers

KHAN2
05-06-2008, 06:55 PM
Thanks f
l.Obliteration pulp chamber caused by
Chronic deep caries or trauma
2.Small pulp exposure with open apex-what is the treatment??
Pulpotomy with ZOE
Or direct pu1p cap with CaR02
3.Disinfected alginate ??with I: I diluted sodium hypochlorite or
Glutaraldehyde
4.Exposure pu1p with immature apex...what is the treatment??
Apexification
5.child with cellulitis -what to do as an emergency treatment?
Drain from the affected tooth +antibiotic and then extraction 4 days
later..
Or Excision outside the skin and extract 4 days later
Or extract immediately
6.Most bifurcation area?? Maxillary IT molar or Mandibu1ar IT molar
7.Chronic inflammation cells ?? Plasma cells, lymphocyte, macrophage
8.Not used for soft tissue pocket?? Gnided tissue regeneration or
scaling
and root planning
9.Patient with pocket increase 2-3 mm after scaling and root planning
..what
to do?
Continue plaque instruction
IO.Aspirin burn---coagulation necrosis
II.Mesial bulk on what primary teeth?? fIrst Mandibu1ar molar
12.What month approximately primary teeth begin to calcify? 3 month
or 5
month
13.Most diffIcult side to extract in Mandibu1ar third molar?
2
Disto-angulation
l4.Tipping forces using in removal appliance affect what part of the
tooth?
Apex---{;ervical third-apical-coronal
l5.corticosteroid work on what action?? Antiinflamatory
l6.in granulation tissue---Fibroblast -lymphocyte---{;apillary
17.Warafarin work on PT
l8.Squamos cell carcinoma found in ?? One site of lower lip
19.After using mouth rinse with chlorhexidine you will fmd?
Geographic tongue or cancker oris or atrophy
20.Hyperparathyrodism ---Hypercementosis
21.Central giant cell granuloma ---giant cell and serum calcium
22.Fibros dysplasia-Ground glass appearance
23.Fracture on normal mastication--osteoporosis
24.Bimaxillary (mandible and maxilla) Bilateral or
unilateral
radiolucent??
Cherubism
25.Cleidocranial dysplasia -impacted supernumerary teeth
26. Addison -pigmentation
27.Bucal Gingiva -how innervated-intra alveolar or infra periosteum
28. Bruxism-in what center -sphino-maxilla
29.If patient has acute pulpitis and once he got to your office the
pain
disappear why?
30.0cclusal Trauma cause----gingivitis -periodontitis - increase
progress
3
, .
periodontitis
31.root Rotation-supracrestal fibers
32.After given LA the patient become paralyzed why?? Injected parotid
33.When mistaken injected parotid the tip of needle -posterior LA or
superior or inferior
34.Patient had angina attack after extraction -why?
Stress from the procedure or because of vasoconstricted LA
35.When moving the jaw laterally the disc move Forward and medially
36.Proximal contact teeth when the jaw moves laterally?? working site
or
nonworking site
37.Appear radiolucent on x-ray in posterior occlusal plan?? Mandibular
canal
or cervical ridge
38.Which salivary gland has the greatest salivation?? Mandibular gland
39.what x-ray you can take to see Genial tuberculum ?? Occlusal or
Panoramic
4O.contraindication for serial extraction?? Deepbite----everything else
is
normal
41.Different between osteitis and idiopathic osteosclerosis?? Chronic
pulp
inflammation
42.decrease Vit B2 (Riboflavin) - Pain-angular
chelitis-glossitis---erythema
mucose membrane
43.Hypothyrodism-Gain wait -delayed teeth eruption
44.Ectodermal dysplasia-Anodontia-missing few teeth
45.Latex allergy- immediate rush ,urticaria, erythema
46.Patient has local gingival edema on tooth Dr 21---what is the
prognosis??
Leukemia-hormon-anemia
4
47.Mter extraction primary canine you should use space maintainer
48.When choosing abutment you should consider
Crown: root ratio
Status of periodontal ligament
Local in the arch
All of the above
49.What happen if premature lose of mandibular canine??
Class II or anterior open bite or crossbite
50. Diarrhea-abscess-sweat-losing wieght-Crohn syndrome
51.Kellsy syndrome-when upper RPD contact lower complete denture what
will
happen after period of time?? Resorption of alveolar bone or prolong
tuberosity
52.What is true about Mandibular growth-it growth vertically than
horizontally
Or latent growth in premature sprue
Or girls complete mandibular growth 100% by age 13
53.Liquid to solid ---contraction
54.Interfere with antiacid----Tetracycline or sulfonamide
or replying can you please answers these as well

KHAN2
05-06-2008, 07:06 PM
can you please answer these as well
55.What you give in acute apical abscess-penicillin G or V or
Amoxicillin
56.What is the broad spectrum antibiotic?? penicillin G or V or
amoxicillin
or Methicillin
57.What to treat fIrst ?? Anterior open bite with thump sucking or
crossbite
interfere with
Physiologic movement
58.how do you know a malocclusion is skeletal or dental in nature
60. consequence of premature loss of maxillary deciduous canine
61. cleidocranial dysostosis.
5
62.treatment of intruded teeth - observe, they tend to spontaneously
Erupt
63.when does an anterior open bite resolve 64.
Palatal impacted canines..
65. regarding removable applicance... where is the centre of the tooth
during tipping movements? - apical half
66.What you give in acute apical abscesspenicillin
G
penicillin V
amoxicillin
67.What is the broad spectrum antibiotic??
penicillin G
penicillin V
amoxicillin
68. RPD moving when patient is moving his tongue in all
directions-why?
Thickness of the denture---Inadequate indirect retainer
69.What is the name part of indirect retainer called?? Rest
70.Distobuccal RPD interference -what muscle?? Masseter muscle
7l.The strongest muscle of mastications?? Masseter muscle
72. Masseter muscle originated from zygomatic process
73.Endomorph-short and fat
74."Y" shape in X-ray -floor of the sinus and nasal spinal
75.Malar rash- Lupus erythematosus
76.Most important properties for PPM crownModulus
of elasticity
Proportional limit
Coefficient of thermal expansion
77.Stimulus to pulp-pain
6
78.Why DEI is the most sensitive area?? Free nerve
ending---hydrodynamic
theorie
79.How should be probe---Parallel to long axis of the teeth
Behind the root
80.Acute pulpitis-Pain when laying down
8l.Pain relief on cold-acute apical abscess or acute suppurative
Abscess
82.Pain on lateral percussion -lateral periodontal abscess
83.Retum abscess after RCT---crack tooth or inadequate irrigation-or
vertical fracture-all of the above
84.When preparing full crown on extensive MOD amalgam, the margin
should be
1mrn below amalgam or 2 mrn below amalgam or at amalgam margin..
85.What is the earliest age to see congenital missing second premolar??
86.Dentallamina-from bridge
87.Physiologic heart murmur -what antibiotic ??non
88.Piitient had heart attack 8 years ago, you have to extract the
tooth-you
should
Pre sedation and give LA without Epinephrine or extract with LA with
Epinephrine
89.contoreld diabetic patient had sharp pain on retrostemallefi side---what treatment
1--.nitroglycerine-2---0xygen---3--observe-4---10%glucan (123 or 4
only»
90.What is true about the bronchi? everything goes to the right side
right
bronchi
9l.Long term using Corticosteroid cause hypofunction cortical or
hypofunction adrenal
Or hyperfunction cortical or
7
92. loss of structural differentiation within a cell or group of cells
often
with increased capacity for multiplication---.Anaplasia
93. Transformation of cells from a normal to an abnormal state
---Metaplasia
94. abnormal growth or development of organs or cells -Dysplasia
95.what is "Biological width"
96.Measurment width of attached gingiva97.
cleft lip ??Failure of maxilla with median nasal nose
98.Articulator used for ??
99.The distance between the abutment and other teeth on the model
called-survey line or terminal line
lOO.PPM crown fracture ----inadequate depth of isthmus
101.PPM crown does not fit in the mouth but fits in the model-what to
do?
Repeat the impression

Foulys
05-06-2008, 08:10 PM
A patient with severe bleeding disorder, which holds the least risk:

A- inferior alveolar nerve block injection.
B- subgingival restoration.
C- supragingival scaling.

Please, always state ur source for the answers as I can see that most of the posted answers are wrong, It would make it easier for anyone to understand why any answer is strongly accepted.

dr.ymp
05-07-2008, 07:01 AM
Please, always state ur source for the answers as I can see that most of the posted answers are wrong, It would make it easier for anyone to understand why any answer is strongly accepted.

According to laskin and Kelly & Kay (Both are book of Oral surgery) Says its hazardous to use Inferior alveolar nerve block in case of Hemophilia, So better to use intraligamentory technique for local anesthesia

Well for Supragingival scalling, its least traumatic to gingiva if its done with proper techinique (Ref: Glickman)

So, this is the support for this answer...

How abt yours??

Thnks

KHAN2
05-07-2008, 10:08 AM
Hi Everyone,
I posted questions ....I would really appriciate if some answer them
thanks

looking20100
05-08-2008, 08:39 AM
hi any one preparing acfd exam for this september?

Acfd2007
05-09-2008, 02:07 PM
All The Best For The Exam
What Are We Suppose To Take Id No And Pencils No Pr Card???

dralana1977
05-09-2008, 02:31 PM
you can take PR card if you want to use that as an ID but if you have canadian drivers licence that is good enough.

Good luck

canuck96
05-10-2008, 06:15 PM
the questions that khan 2 has written here have all come in the exam...........how does he know that these questions were going to come........every single question came...........i am shocked!!!!!!!!!!

dr_mmaf
05-11-2008, 09:18 AM
We Are Not Going To Accept That Someone Was Aware About The Questions 5 Days Before Exam And You Cant Say That He Was Guessing Because Each And Every Multiple Choice Is Also Matching With Acfd Paper 2008

Mashti
05-11-2008, 03:43 PM
I can't believe that someone had the paper before the exam...We should do something about this...Not fair...Not fair...We should call the ACFD...Come on people let's do something before it gets deleted...Please..Take a screen shot of this page as a record...NOW...

diudiulin
05-11-2008, 04:04 PM
......

hzleuven
05-11-2008, 06:52 PM
the questions that khan 2 has written here have all come in the exam...........how does he know that these questions were going to come........every single question came...........i am shocked!!!!!!!!!!
where are those questions? can you help me to find them out? thanks.

Mashti
05-12-2008, 09:11 AM
where are those questions? can you help me to find them out? thanks.

Look at posts 315 and 316..

doctorMM
05-12-2008, 10:09 AM
If khan2 knew the questions why had he posted them? Would this not be like shooting himslef in the leg? If I knew the questions, I would keep them to myslef. And if I did not know the answers, I would have just asked someone else insted of posting them and possibly make them available to the competion. It dosen't make sense

hzleuven
05-12-2008, 11:02 AM
the strange thing is i couldn't see the post. how come those long thread only shows up to 3 pages. don't understand. what i saw is those posts from 3/2008-5/9/2008 are missing. damn those are the most important...
what's wrong with it?

Look at posts 315 and 316..

Docn
05-12-2008, 11:11 AM
YA I AGREE WITH U DOCTORMM .ITS STRANGE ..NEVER HEARD OF LIKE THIS BEFORE..

If khan2 knew the questions why had he posted them? Would this not be like shooting himslef in the leg? If I knew the questions, I would keep them to myslef. And if I did not know the answers, I would have just asked someone else insted of posting them and possibly make them available to the competion. It dosen't make sense

Mandibular
05-12-2008, 12:03 PM
Only Khan22 can say why he posted the questions...Perhaps he did not even realize what he had...The important issue is not that he posted them, it is that "people" had the test..that the test had been leaked...How long has this been happening?...And is this stopping honest hard working "Dentists/Students" from getting accepted in the programme...

Acfd2007
05-12-2008, 02:39 PM
the questions that khan 2 has written here have all come in the exam...........how does he know that these questions were going to come........every single question came...........i am shocked!!!!!!!!!!

hi
i think question by khan 2 are basically repeated questions from past 2 years questions. but if anything unethical has taken place then i very sorry to know about that.

doctorMM
05-12-2008, 04:35 PM
No, they are not. It is very improbable that he got right 190 questions out of 200 questions posted. He had inside knowledge. I have already e-mailed ACFD, RCDSO, UofT, UWO. I have included a link to KHAN2 postings in the e-mail body. He also has some other postings from before.
Assuming that what you believe is correct, he had 600 questions from the last two years. How could he have chosen the 200 right questions?
Anyway I do not expect ACFD to take any measures, they will not question one of their own. But I will not let this go. No way. I have already left a message for my lawyer and tomorrow I will re-sent the same e-mail to all the directors and everyone in charge in every single dental association. Maybe someone will do something about it.

diudiulin
05-12-2008, 04:50 PM
......

Mandibular
05-12-2008, 05:08 PM
Should we contact W5 or some other TV stations to get some news coverage?

dralana1977
05-12-2008, 05:34 PM
I Agree with ACFD2007...most of these questions are repeated from previous exams..I had some of these questions on my exam last year. And other questions that I had on my exam that were not on that list were repeated also.

Not all of the questions were in the exam saturday...they were not all...or even most of them in my exam.

I think that maybe "he" and other people together collected the questions that they remembered from various past exams.

I don't know if all of you are taking the exam for the first time but there are a lot of repeated questions on the exam.

I think maybe some people are seeing too much in this situation.

monreal
05-12-2008, 05:52 PM
Should we contact W5 or some other TV stations to get some news coverage?
This thread is getting hillarious :laugh:... so happy to be here.

doctorMM
05-13-2008, 05:44 AM
Unfortunately this thread is getting sad, not hilarious. The point is people are getting sick and tired about all the little practices developed in the gray legal area around this exam. Does anyone know why is this Mr. Naresh allowed to operate his little underground business undisturbed by the University or by the police? Is he paying any rights for the books he photocopies and then sells? Did any of you get any receipts?
Why is the EE exam written in pencil and not in pen? Specifically HB pencil. So that the papers can be altered after the exam? HB pencils are the easiest to erase without leaving marks on the paper.
Why are the candidates names on the papers left open? So that the connected students get the marks they "deserve" according to daddy's or uncle's donation to the University? Candidates names should be covered and sealed and only opened after the correction process has taken place.
Why is it taking 4-6 weeks to get the results? So that the connected people have time to operate the changes I was talking about? Correction is a computer job, just put the damn paper in the computer and give me the result...so much for the canadian fairness...give me a break

noboekt
05-13-2008, 10:51 AM
Unfortunately this thread is getting sad, not hilarious. The point is people are getting sick and tired about all the little practices developed in the gray legal area around this exam. Does anyone know why is this Mr. Naresh allowed to operate his little underground business undisturbed by the University or by the police? Is he paying any rights for the books he photocopies and then sells? Did any of you get any receipts?
Why is the EE exam written in pencil and not in pen? Specifically HB pencil. So that the papers can be altered after the exam? HB pencils are the easiest to erase without leaving marks on the paper.
Why are the candidates names on the papers left open? So that the connected students get the marks they "deserve" according to daddy's or uncle's donation to the University? Candidates names should be covered and sealed and only opened after the correction process has taken place.
Why is it taking 4-6 weeks to get the results? So that the connected people have time to operate the changes I was talking about? Correction is a computer job, just put the damn paper in the computer and give me the result...so much for the canadian fairness...give me a break
I'm totally agree with you drmm I mean even if it's from previous exams
are we allowed take the questions out of the exam center?
it doesn't make sense at all.
the regulation indicates that we are not allowed take exam material out of examination center..

Mashti
05-13-2008, 11:30 AM
This thread is getting hillarious :laugh:... so happy to be here.

If you don't have anything constructive to say please don't mock the few of us who think there is something suspicious going on...Note, I said "think" and not "sure"...This is an inkling...We don't know..Chances are we are wrong...Chances are that this is a very rare coincidence(it is possible)...But at the same time from what we can see in black and white in front of us(the exam paper staring at us few days before the exam), this is how we feel...Again we can be wrong but we can be right too...We are all human beings...So please don't make fun of the few of us that feel this way...We are under enough stress/strain (Modulus Of Elasticity) already, having our lives brought to a stand still, etc.........................

virgosontander
05-13-2008, 01:54 PM
Unfortunately this thread is getting sad, not hilarious. The point is people are getting sick and tired about all the little practices developed in the gray legal area around this exam. Does anyone know why is this Mr. Naresh allowed to operate his little underground business undisturbed by the University or by the police? Is he paying any rights for the books he photocopies and then sells? Did any of you get any receipts?
Why is the EE exam written in pencil and not in pen? Specifically HB pencil. So that the papers can be altered after the exam? HB pencils are the easiest to erase without leaving marks on the paper.
Why are the candidates names on the papers left open? So that the connected students get the marks they "deserve" according to daddy's or uncle's donation to the University? Candidates names should be covered and sealed and only opened after the correction process has taken place.
Why is it taking 4-6 weeks to get the results? So that the connected people have time to operate the changes I was talking about? Correction is a computer job, just put the damn paper in the computer and give me the result...so much for the canadian fairness...give me a break


I agree with you;.We have to do something about this! Its really unfair what happened. Just advice us what the steps to do or [process) to make. Im saluting your courage. Thanks for this. I worked hard to review evry single day and night just to pass the acfd exam. I want justice for all of us!!!!!!!!!I will pray for this!God bless us all!!

dralana1977
05-13-2008, 08:32 PM
You can't take materials out of the exam..but if you have a good memory you can sit down afterwards and write down the ones you remember....I wrote more than 80 questions myself from saturday...so if there are 2/3 or more people that share the ones that they remember it can add up pretty fast.

This is a very bad situation for anyone involved. I have been studying for the last 8months for this exam, I don't want it to be annulled. One way or the other its a loose, loose situation for all.

If they anulled the exam we loose the application for most of the universities for this year, if they don't, maybe we all get a worse grade due to possible cheating...I don't know what is worse...

I am sure that there is cheating going on in this exam...so the people that think that this doesn't happen are pretty naive. That's why there are a lot of people taking the NDEB and going to the States..once the exam has to be taken by the american dental students also.

Obviously the people involved in cheating of any sort should be punished...but if this was the case here...if was not the first time and for sure won't be the last unfortunally. There is a lot going on that we have no clue about and that is the sad truth...this exam is not fair.

Mandibular
05-13-2008, 09:37 PM
No, they are not. It is very improbable that he got right 190 questions out of 200 questions posted. He had inside knowledge. I have already e-mailed ACFD, RCDSO, UofT, UWO. I have included a link to KHAN2 postings in the e-mail body. He also has some other postings from before.
Assuming that what you believe is correct, he had 600 questions from the last two years. How could he have chosen the 200 right questions?
Anyway I do not expect ACFD to take any measures, they will not question one of their own. But I will not let this go. No way. I have already left a message for my lawyer and tomorrow I will re-sent the same e-mail to all the directors and everyone in charge in every single dental association. Maybe someone will do something about it.

Hi drMM..
Please update us regarding the letters you wrote to different regulating bodies...I like to write one to ACFD too but am not sure if one or two letters are gonna do anything constructive...Is there anyway that we can find the email addresses for some of the students who wrote the test..I am sure ACFD has the email addresses but I wonder they would give it out...Again, what should we do...We need to stick together and have some legal guidance...Keep us posted..

What dralana1977 says makes very much sense..."It is a loose loose situation", but we can't let it go on like this....When some people have access to Exam Papers, no matter whatever high score you get there are going to be some people who can get a better score ie people with papers, and that narrows our chance of getting in...
In conclusion we need to bring this to a stop somehow....Let us use our brains together and see if we can come up with something that favours the honest ones...I personally think getting the media is not a bad idea...what do you guys/gals think?

11111117
05-13-2008, 10:15 PM
Hi drMM..
Please update us regarding the letters you wrote to different regulating bodies...I like to write one to ACFD too but am not sure if one or two letters are gonna do anything constructive...Is there anyway that we can find the email addresses for some of the students who wrote the test..I am sure ACFD has the email addresses but I wonder they would give it out...Again, what should we do...We need to stick together and have some legal guidance...Keep us posted..

What dralana1977 says makes very much sense..."It is a loose loose situation", but we can't let it go on like this....When some people have access to Exam Papers, no matter whatever high score you get there are going to be some people who can get a better score ie people with papers, and that narrows our chance of getting in...
In conclusion we need to bring this to a stop somehow....Let us use our brains together and see if we can come up with something that favours the honest ones...I personally think getting the media is not a bad idea...what do you guys/gals think?

I cannot agree with you more.:thumbup:
I am one of the victims. Cheating just lies before us, we must try to protect ourselves since nobody can do that for us.
Just as you said,one or two letters,one or two guys would not make sense. I have written to acfd about the cheating this time, but nobody answers me till now.
We do need to use our brains.Before that,we should be together.

Shall we send our msn or something like that to some one via the pm?
I think once there is an incisor,the premolars and molars will come for sure.

noboekt
05-14-2008, 09:15 AM
You can't take materials out of the exam..but if you have a good memory you can sit down afterwards and write down the ones you remember....I wrote more than 80 questions myself from saturday...so if there are 2/3 or more people that share the ones that they remember it can add up pretty fast.

This is a very bad situation for anyone involved. I have been studying for the last 8months for this exam, I don't want it to be annulled. One way or the other its a loose, loose situation for all.

If they anulled the exam we loose the application for most of the universities for this year, if they don't, maybe we all get a worse grade due to possible cheating...I don't know what is worse...

I am sure that there is cheating going on in this exam...so the people that think that this doesn't happen are pretty naive. That's why there are a lot of people taking the NDEB and going to the States..once the exam has to be taken by the american dental students also.

Obviously the people involved in cheating of any sort should be punished...but if this was the case here...if was not the first time and for sure won't be the last unfortunally. There is a lot going on that we have no clue about and that is the sad truth...this exam is not fair.
yes I know that you can remember questions from the exam in fact i have also around 100 questions that I was able to write down and looking for the correct answer but this case is different ,,,
if he had from the last 2 years past exams why he would post right before the exam even very simple questions may be I 'm just saying may be
he's not even a foreign dentist.. he could be someone who collect questions for this underground people...
THis is all speculations but I have no doubt that there was something unusual
for the facts:
1)why post the qustions right before the exam
2)if the questions were from the last years why he didn't bother in looking for right answers till now..considering that he doesn't know even very simple questions..
3)why some people has more access to more material like past exams..
I mean we all have graduated from dental school we have almost same knoweldge ..I guess
4)I realized that the ee questions are not difficult the difficulty lies in the answers which is very ambiguous
5)acfd s/b more transparent how they score and why takes so long for the result I mean all qustions are objective
considering all even if we are wrong we should unify our voice and take an egg in our hands and throw to the rock(acfd) I know the egg won't crack the big rock but at least they gonna take time to clean up..
we can write a letter containing same idea and send it to acfd..
or write e mail
but lets organize ...

11111117
05-14-2008, 11:56 AM
since there are 100 questions posted, there could be two situations.
one,this guy has only 100 questions, personally,I think it is highly possible. if this guy has all the questions,he/she will post many from the firt part too, rather than mainly from the second part.
the other one,he/she has all the questions.why does he/she post only one third here? i guess he/she knows the keys to the rest questions.
so,if all the questions posted here are excluded, there will be a guy or guys whose scores are very very high,such as 99%. is such a high score trustable?
if there is not such a guy,it is possible that he/she only has these 100 questions.
perhaps the impact on us of the cheating would be eliminated in this way?
what do you guys think?

Acfd2007
05-14-2008, 05:13 PM
since there are 100 questions posted, there could be two situations.
one,this guy has only 100 questions, personally,I think it is highly possible. if this guy has all the questions,he/she will post many from the firt part too, rather than mainly from the second part.
the other one,he/she has all the questions.why does he/she post only one third here? i guess he/she knows the keys to the rest questions.
so,if all the questions posted here are excluded, there will be a guy or guys whose scores are very very high,such as 99%. is such a high score trustable?
if there is not such a guy,it is possible that he/she only has these 100 questions.
perhaps the impact on us of the cheating would be eliminated in this way?
what do you guys think?


question on hepatitis antibodies Ab surface antigen .relation of spenomandibular ligament to IANB needle,muscle of cheek,are some of the new questions which are not included in his post probably he had only past questions. i dont want to think about paper being leaked before the exam because then i will loose my faith in every damn thing over here

drsai
05-15-2008, 09:57 AM
HELLO EVERY ONE
its really sad story going on here and totally injustice with hardworking students so what is the progress ..did anyone got response from acfd or sumthing..plz update here

probe
05-15-2008, 10:00 AM
hi everybody iam a new member here.. when the controversy of exam leak is going on ...in the meanwhile can we discuss some of the questions of the EE exam may 2008?
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Acfd2007
05-15-2008, 11:06 AM
hi everybody iam a new member here.. when the controversy of exam leak is going on ...in the meanwhile can we discuss some of the questions of the EE exam may 2008?
http://img.studentdoctor.net/images/icons/icon5.gif

:thumbup:better thing to do than just being negative when so many other things around us are bothering ...................

virgosontander
05-15-2008, 11:12 AM
Im very much concern of what happened to us. Its very difficult to reviewed night & day. I hope they considered this.I hope this message will give us more courage to seek the truth if there was an anomaly or leakage happened. Pls. always post for your feelings about this. Soon it will reveal new developments and new responses. Just hoping & praying to achieve justice! I'm saluting everyone!!!God bless us!!!:):love:

drsai
05-15-2008, 11:39 AM
:thumbup:better thing to do than just being negative when so many other things around us are bothering ...................


hi...thats sound good ..so start discussing question here n be united

Mandibular
05-15-2008, 06:23 PM
Hello everyone..
Please take a few moments to email ACFD if you have not already done so because the more people who express their concerns the better...

SCDC
05-16-2008, 07:39 PM
Everybody stop whining

And do some thing about it, if you are certain that there were cheating involved.
I agree with one of the posters it is a lose- lose situation for every one involved if the exam is annuled.

Time to hit the books.

iraqi
05-18-2008, 07:31 AM
Amazing

digital braces
05-19-2008, 10:53 AM
all those who r done with may ee...can u give guidence to those who r preparing for sept. can u tell me if i have enough time starting from now to study for ee?
is there any need to do decks 1?? r shuld i go thru once??
and clinicaly,decks 2 with past ndbe 2 papers are enough or u suggest other materials?
plz plz those of who are done with ee...answer my confusions...thnx in advance:confused:

drsai
05-19-2008, 05:47 PM
hi digital braces u have enuf time for prep the imp thing is that u read useful material...in my opinion u dont have to need read deck 1 u can go thru once but dont waste time on that deck 2 nbde part 2 papers and previous canadian papers r enuf but u must read them thoroughly n try to retain as much as u can so good luck n pray 4 us !!!!

Acfd2007
05-19-2008, 06:55 PM
hi
how was the exam this may tougher or easier than last may??????:scared::hardy:

Unit together
05-22-2008, 09:10 AM
Hi every body......

Mostly it is not leakage,it is just some people who got together to remember Qs from the past previous exams,some can recall some Qs with all their choices. This happens with all exams in general,EE,NBDE,MCAT and even the driving test,G1.

Anyways,I'm looking for Frasaco typodent,manikin,head, stands.........is there anyone willing to sell something.I really appreciate any response.
Please,contact me on my email address.
Thank you very much.

Acfd2007
05-23-2008, 02:27 PM
hi
how was the exam this may tougher or easier than last may??????:scared::hardy:


no reply:confused:

Acfd2007
05-24-2008, 08:08 AM
how long is DDS course for us in UFT

dralana1977
05-25-2008, 01:35 PM
2 years as any other advanced placement programm

dralana1977
05-26-2008, 04:59 PM
Has anyone received any news from the ACFD about the complaints with the may exam?

dosanjh
05-29-2008, 02:06 PM
Yes i recieved a letter from acfd Today stating that , ACFD will remove potentially affected questions from the recent exam prior to scoring.:)

drsai
05-29-2008, 04:53 PM
Yes i recieved a letter from acfd Today stating that , ACFD will remove potentially affected questions from the recent exam prior to scoring.:)
what this means????like remove that 100 questions and then score or what???

chd
05-29-2008, 11:01 PM
This could potentially have made it worse for all of us; it depends on the questions they remove.Personally, I hope they don't take out the questions that I answered correctly. I hope well for all you out there too.
We should try to help one another. Most exams worldwide whether it be dentistry, medicine etc. have a pool of remembered questions which are often repeated. Let's be productive and not create a civil war.At the end of the day we all suffer.
Bottom line: we are just immigrants to them. we are just a storm in a tea cup!! They have more important issues to deal with than the foreign graduates fighting amongst themselves & accusing one another of cheating.
Let's get on & discuss dental questions!!!

Dr666
05-30-2008, 01:26 AM
Shame Shame to all those who were CRY babies and wrote and complained to the ACFD, i just wonder and think how can u guys be so stupid,dont u do your research before the exams. In fact the questions which were posted are all OLD PREVIOUS Exam questions, and our only way to score high marks in the exams is if these questions r repeated every year. But now due to the OVERENTHUSIASM of a few fools we lose that oppurtinity.God forgive them coz these fools do not know what they do.

hzleuven
05-30-2008, 03:00 PM
so surpriesed to hear that. the exams later on are going be much much harder for us. less repetition, lower score. definitely not a good news. :(
you guyz should know that a lot of questions are not from dental decks. it's pretty hard for us to get prepared. working on repeated questions is the only practical way.
don't know how the exam in september will be.

Devilchild
05-30-2008, 03:27 PM
gotta agree with Dr666. y'all who opened Pandora's box gotta learn a thing or two bout damage control. Weldone to the goon-heads out there a regal standing ovation is what you get from me. To the rest of you goodie goodie two shoes playing Holier-than-thou and butter wont melt in your mouth, im calling your bluff.

Foulys
05-30-2008, 07:15 PM
Unfortunately this thread is getting sad, not hilarious. The point is people are getting sick and tired about all the little practices developed in the gray legal area around this exam. Does anyone know why is this Mr. Naresh allowed to operate his little underground business undisturbed by the University or by the police? Is he paying any rights for the books he photocopies and then sells? Did any of you get any receipts?
Why is the EE exam written in pencil and not in pen? Specifically HB pencil. So that the papers can be altered after the exam? HB pencils are the easiest to erase without leaving marks on the paper.
Why are the candidates names on the papers left open? So that the connected students get the marks they "deserve" according to daddy's or uncle's donation to the University? Candidates names should be covered and sealed and only opened after the correction process has taken place.
Why is it taking 4-6 weeks to get the results? So that the connected people have time to operate the changes I was talking about? Correction is a computer job, just put the damn paper in the computer and give me the result...so much for the canadian fairness...give me a break
u must be kidding me!!!!!
invest this time and work on researching for ur next exam and studying, i think u just opened the doors of hell on ur next exam, there is nothing wrong of writing some previous questions or according to this the the ASDA (american student dental association) would be in big trouble!!, u r really fools and the funny guy calling his lawyer, please give me a break and stop this conspiracy theory thing, its illegal to breach copyright law for sure other than this nothing is wrong i believe!!!

probe
05-30-2008, 11:57 PM
can somebody answer these questions??
1.buccal gingiva is supplied by
-supraperiosteal fibre
-intralveolar
-periapical
iperodontal

2.risk for latex allergy..
-H/o atopiy during childhood
-pts with spina bifida
-more common in people with food allergies like banana avacadao nut
-repeated urinary catherisation

3.kellsys syndrome????

4.disinfect alginate
-2%glutaraldehyde
-1:10 sod hypochlorite

5.untrated granuloma will lead to
-increase in size
-remain unchanged

6.air water spray in cavity prep helps to
-decrease frictional heat
-protects pulp
-cleans operating field

7.loss of proximal contact is due to
-improper wedging
-tight matrix band
-adjacent filling done at the same time
-improper condensation

8.endomorph????

Acfd2007
05-31-2008, 06:47 AM
hi i wrote prevoiusly that these were only repeated questions BUT WHO CARES.................................WE ARE DIGGING OUR OWN GRAVES:mad:can somebody answer these questions??
1.buccal gingiva is supplied by
-supraperiosteal fibre-intralveolar
-periapical
iperodontal

2.risk for latex allergy..
-H/o atopiy during childhood
-pts with spina bifida
-more common in people with food allergies like banana avacadao nut-repeated urinary catherisation

3.kellsys syndrome????

4.disinfect alginate
-2%glutaraldehyde
-1:10 sod hypochlorite

5.untrated granuloma will lead to
-increase in size-remain unchanged

6.air water spray in cavity prep helps to
-decrease frictional heat-protects pulp
-cleans operating field

7.loss of proximal contact is due to
-improper wedging
-tight matrix band-adjacent filling done at the same time
-improper condensation

8.endomorph????

composite2004
05-31-2008, 12:32 PM
i really would like to thank those idiots who contacted the acfd , and i wana tell them they screwed themelves and screwed us , also hope they dont pass now to see the hell next sep. and for the ppl whoo had some questions from their previous trials to throw them away . and start all over again from zero , :thumbdown

f.khan
05-31-2008, 02:02 PM
Well now the qs is if they are going to remove 200 qs from the exam then what is left behind? Dont you think that in this situation it wud be a good idea to repeat the exam instead of scoring the same paper?

Acfd2007
06-01-2008, 01:05 AM
if those who appealed had got some sense and realized what disaster they have lead to please take ur appeal back for heaven sake

f.khan
06-01-2008, 10:41 AM
but now it doesnt matter even if they take it back. The thing is now they will change everything and knowing that they wud remove some qs is scary.

drsunny88
06-01-2008, 12:11 PM
hey,,i jus checked da acfd website n they have explained about the may 2008 exam,,,so go n check it in detail...

drsunny88
06-01-2008, 12:20 PM
hey,,i thnk most of the people who r very angry over all this thng are those people who have all these posted questions and in my opinion they r kind of people who have a group of 20 or 30 people ,,whose only purpose is to get all these questions and then find answers and keep all these questions amongst there own communities and thats why u will notice that why some specific nationalities always get scores above 85%...:thumbdown
but thanxz god now hopefully this unfair cheating will be over and there will be a real and fair competition among all of us ,,especially those who dont have access to this unfair cheating and stuff...:mad:
i know some people are very angry bcz all they use to do was to jus memorize those questions that they have n score above 85 or even 90 % and then get admisiion,,but wat about all of us,,who work hard and in the end have to suffer bcz of dese unfair means...
anyways hopefully now these people will have to take another 5,6 years to collect all these questions so far all of us this is the time 2 work hard and kick dre ass!!!!:)

digital braces
06-01-2008, 04:19 PM
hghdgfhdgfh

digital braces
06-01-2008, 04:31 PM
i'm out of words to say anything! this is called wasting of brains,time and energy! i wish they had invested it all for preparation of ee.:mad:

no repetition means a lot more than wat v can imagine...all of us preparing for sept ee r probably looking at the test with only 100 q's we might know and the rest from an aliean world(thats wat i think)i'm so hopeless:confused:
how r we suppose to study now. just decks can't b enough.
thanku so much especialy to the guy who for heavans' paid his lawyer too:thumbdown

all those going in sept. wat u think v shuld expect in test. i'm sure no past q's atleast in next ee. :scared:

Devilchild
06-01-2008, 05:08 PM
I knew I shoulda gone to law school, woulda made a kill outta some foreign trained dentist suing the Dental Community.
Gotta love the drama.

Come on big group hug.
No more fighting.

We all hate each other here, its ok to admit it.

drsunny88
06-01-2008, 11:19 PM
i know its gonna be tough from now cz dre wont be any repeat questions but it will be good for most of us:) and only those people will get good scores who realy have good knowledge and have worked hard :thumbup::thumbup:but ya it will be bad for those who only depend on repeated questions and or reconstructed qz ....:mad::mad::mad:sad but true:)

Dr666
06-02-2008, 03:44 PM
Hey guys now we must decide what has to be done, i have already written to the ACFD that we should not be penalized if as per their investigation when No evidence of wrong doing has been comitted, we should just get the our real score and not any truncated score. the more people write to the ACFD the more reason they would see in our arguement.

Acfd2007
06-03-2008, 04:30 PM
when is the result expected any idea

Foulys
06-03-2008, 08:26 PM
hey,,i thnk most of the people who r very angry over all this thng are those people who have all these posted questions and in my opinion they r kind of people who have a group of 20 or 30 people ,,whose only purpose is to get all these questions and then find answers and keep all these questions amongst there own communities and thats why u will notice that why some specific nationalities always get scores above 85%...:thumbdown
but thanxz god now hopefully this unfair cheating will be over and there will be a real and fair competition among all of us ,,especially those who dont have access to this unfair cheating and stuff...:mad:
i know some people are very angry bcz all they use to do was to jus memorize those questions that they have n score above 85 or even 90 % and then get admisiion,,but wat about all of us,,who work hard and in the end have to suffer bcz of dese unfair means...
anyways hopefully now these people will have to take another 5,6 years to collect all these questions so far all of us this is the time 2 work hard and kick dre ass!!!!:)

AM one of those angry people i Guess!! :)
took ee long ago ONE time ONLY, and currently a student in QP. From what it looks, u r an angry person and dont care about others, if u take some time to research the exam before entering u wouldn't have said so. Besides its funny u post on this same thread where the questions were posted and u didnt check them out. Hopefully it doesn't take u 5 to 6 years to get in.

Foulys
06-03-2008, 08:32 PM
i know its gonna be tough from now cz dre wont be any repeat questions but it will be good for most of us:) and only those people will get good scores who realy have good knowledge and have worked hard :thumbup::thumbup:but ya it will be bad for those who only depend on repeated questions and or reconstructed qz ....:mad::mad::mad:sad but true:)

Learn to respect others, besides even memorizing questions is a harder job by the way.its not ur job to say who deserves to be accepted, also when u finish the ee stage soon u will know its not always about scores!!

monreal
06-03-2008, 09:38 PM
...

composite2004
06-04-2008, 09:02 PM
to dr.sunny plz shut up .

Acfd2007
06-05-2008, 07:11 AM
i am getting scared as the days are approaching.I can asure you that this melodrama will not help us in any way. all of us are going out of focus --what is our actual focus to pull each other down???? OR TO GET LICENCE:(
I AM REALLY GETTING SCARED OF THE RESULT...................DONT KNOW WHAT IS STORED FOR US
JUST PRAY THAT WE ALL GET UPTO OUR EXPECTATION:scared:

Devilchild
06-05-2008, 02:37 PM
Guns be blazing in here, is it just me or is the schrapnel slicing everyone in here?
Dang talk about tangible tension!
No wonder doors be slamming in our face
When there is no respect/ value for a system this is what happens.
No fingers are pointing, we all contribute in some way to this ugliness

"Im standing with the man in the mirror, oh yea, Im asking him to change his ways....' sing with me,
sing with me.

drdiya
06-08-2008, 02:50 AM
i would like to help all those who plan to give eligibilty exam. its a tough exam and u need patience and hard work to get good percentage. and even after getting good scores university interviews and practicals are really hard , too much competition on that level.i would recommend to every one who is giving ee that to also give national board part 1 to be on the safe side when the time comes for admission so u wont be disappointed.i would suggest all of you to study oral pathology intensively for ee as 50% of questions are oral patho.peadiatric dentistry is important also . good luck to all.
i say ur message that u are ready to help although its a bit old message but i want ot check if you are still there for help of people blank like me . i dont kno the abc of canadian system . i dont want to waste time here and there .plz if you have time let me know of the system . waiting for reply

drsunny88
06-08-2008, 01:46 PM
hey composite don get rude buddy,,,,,,all im sain is dat if u work hard then u don need 2 worry about dese things,,,plus i have already got 92 on ma nbde part 1 and now goin 2 give ma part 2,,so dr diya better thing 2 do is 2 also look for us option cz its much easier and after getting 90 in part 1 ,,,u l definitely gonna get admission somewhre,,n good thing is for part 2 u don have 2 work very hard cuz bcz of EE exam our part 2 prep is already good enough 2 have a decent score and once u have both part 1 and part 2 den u wont have any problem gettin in US schools...i thnk dats wat other people shld be doin 2..and my ee prep also help me for part 1, cz 30% of exam is clinicaly related and i thnk dats why i get good score on ma 1st attempt...,anyways ,,,,goodluck everyone...

PLANT
06-10-2008, 09:52 AM
Did Anyone Recieved The Ee Result???

Acfd2007
06-11-2008, 08:47 AM
no yet.Did you receive it?

PLANT
06-11-2008, 10:19 AM
No, No I Havent Recieved It. I Was Just Anxious As Its 5th Weeks Going On. So....

dr_mmaf
06-11-2008, 10:53 AM
We dint get our result yet i called acfd on Monday they said that they dispatched it on last thu but i dint get yet.. so when i called today they said they mailed it yesterday so it may take 3 days more...wish us luck plzzzz hope things go smooth after all this ups and downs..

Dr666
06-11-2008, 09:17 PM
Just heard that the results r out, highest is 96 and the average is 74 we will probably get ours tomorrow. All the best guys

doctorMM
06-12-2008, 09:50 AM
I can not believe that some people, such as the ones mentioned above and others like them, promote on this forum the promiscuity, the unfairness and the illegal network that has developed around this exam. I do not have proof yet, but I am convinced that some of the professors are as well involved in all this mess. There is no other way that the shop owned by Mr. Naresh can function right in the neighbourhood of the University of Toronto. And this shop is illegal no matter what false pretences uses for functioning. Selling photocopied tests from previous years is illegal.
I could even close my eyes to his illegal business, since everyone has access to it, there is no real advantage for anyone, but I can not close my eyes to seeing 100 questions posted on internet before the EE. You know why? Because 90% of those questions were included in the EE. Those questions were not randomly selected form the previous 3-4 years. Anyone can do the math. If I could select the right questions from the previous years so accurately, I would be playing lottery. Furthermore if anyone reads other forums, this guy has posted another 100 questions on other dental forums.
I do not want anyone to believe that I am targeting any students or dentists. This is not what I want. My target is the unfair and corrupted access system that was put in place by the ACFD, with one purpose: to demoralize and to humiliate the majority of the honest and hard working foreign dentist and to facilitate the access of the “CONNECTED” people. This system has to change for the better.
Let’s take for example this guy who started all this, KHAN2 or whatever his name is. He wants to be a dentist, but he is so retarded that he can’t even answer some of the most basic questions, he had to post them on-line to get answers. And you know what? I do not think that anyone wants their dental problems be treated by such a specimen. Definitely this guy does not deserve to pass the EE.
I do not care how hard my actions are going to make this exam for me. It will be as hard for everyone else, but at least we would all be treated equally, which is not what has been happening so far. I want my exam paper to be sealed, put in a computer and the results provided right away or within 24 hours. I want one session of exams for each year, not two sessions. Why? Because the exams are not the same, which means that two different groups of people are not treated equally. Look at the results now. The average is 74%. In September was 70%. I am not saying it was easier, maybe for some of us it was, but it was different. Someone who got 85% in September (the highest score was 91%) was probably thinking that they had a shot at getting in. Guess what? They won’t. Because the highest score in May is 96%. How is this fair?
There are 72 books on the reference text list. That’s what everyone should be studying. And that’s it.
Like I said before, I will not let this one go away. Because is my right to be treated fair. I do not think that I am.

Acfd2007
06-13-2008, 12:28 AM
has any one got the result

drsai
06-13-2008, 04:20 PM
yep result has out......who has got the 96% ...n e idea?????

Pintoo
06-14-2008, 09:43 AM
Hi ,
I heard that many people scored in nineties in May 2008,is it true.Hay i am interested in buying mankin set, hand pieces,etc. if any one is interested in selling those items ,pl reply.:luck:

virgosontander
06-16-2008, 02:22 PM
I can not believe that some people, such as the ones mentioned above and others like them, promote on this forum the promiscuity, the unfairness and the illegal network that has developed around this exam. I do not have proof yet, but I am convinced that some of the professors are as well involved in all this mess. There is no other way that the shop owned by Mr. Naresh can function right in the neighbourhood of the University of Toronto. And this shop is illegal no matter what false pretences uses for functioning. Selling photocopied tests from previous years is illegal.
I could even close my eyes to his illegal business, since everyone has access to it, there is no real advantage for anyone, but I can not close my eyes to seeing 100 questions posted on internet before the EE. You know why? Because 90% of those questions were included in the EE. Those questions were not randomly selected form the previous 3-4 years. Anyone can do the math. If I could select the right questions from the previous years so accurately, I would be playing lottery. Furthermore if anyone reads other forums, this guy has posted another 100 questions on other dental forums.
I do not want anyone to believe that I am targeting any students or dentists. This is not what I want. My target is the unfair and corrupted access system that was put in place by the ACFD, with one purpose: to demoralize and to humiliate the majority of the honest and hard working foreign dentist and to facilitate the access of the “CONNECTED” people. This system has to change for the better.
Let’s take for example this guy who started all this, KHAN2 or whatever his name is. He wants to be a dentist, but he is so retarded that he can’t even answer some of the most basic questions, he had to post them on-line to get answers. And you know what? I do not think that anyone wants their dental problems be treated by such a specimen. Definitely this guy does not deserve to pass the EE.
I do not care how hard my actions are going to make this exam for me. It will be as hard for everyone else, but at least we would all be treated equally, which is not what has been happening so far. I want my exam paper to be sealed, put in a computer and the results provided right away or within 24 hours. I want one session of exams for each year, not two sessions. Why? Because the exams are not the same, which means that two different groups of people are not treated equally. Look at the results now. The average is 74%. In September was 70%. I am not saying it was easier, maybe for some of us it was, but it was different. Someone who got 85% in September (the highest score was 91%) was probably thinking that they had a shot at getting in. Guess what? They won’t. Because the highest score in May is 96%. How is this fair?
There are 72 books on the reference text list. That’s what everyone should be studying. And that’s it.
Like I said before, I will not let this one go away. Because is my right to be treated fair. I do not think that I am.

IM VERY GLAD THAT YOU KNEW WHAT HAPPENED & THE INCONVENIENCE THAT LEAD US TO FAILED THE EE. ITS VERY UNFAIR THAT THEY REMOVED THE LEAK QUESTION AND MOST LIKELY MY CORRECT ANSWERS. I FAILED THE EE, I GOT LESS BEC. OF WHAT THEY DID? MAYBE IT'S BETTER THEY REPEAT AGAIN THE EXAM SO THAT IT WILL BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY! PLS. TELL ME WHAT'S YOUR VIEW ABOUT THIS. AGAIN, WE HAVE TO UNITE TO OBTAIN JUSTICE!PLS EMAIL ME OR SENT RESPONSE WITH THIS. THANKS & GOD BLESS!:idea:

625mry
06-16-2008, 10:44 PM
If khan2 knew the questions why had he posted them? Would this not be like shooting himslef in the leg? If I knew the questions, I would keep them to myslef. And if I did not know the answers, I would have just asked someone else insted of posting them and possibly make them available to the competion. It dosen't make sense
doctor MM i'm not agree with you.What did you do and warn ACFD cause big problem.you know after that instead to register for exam inACFD you have to write KHAN2 please please register me for examen of september 29.be realistic.you want tosay till now the ACFD and universities didn't know about this forum and the constructed question that is beetween student. i dont think so .every time the level of the score go up ACFD do something .this year we have more than 20 person up to score 90.after you how univerties qualifie between them . come on guys:wow:

digital braces
06-17-2008, 09:43 AM
all to those nut shells who cant accept the FACTS n havnt learnt still that they r only digging graves for themselves. plz just cut it OK. its enough i think. cuz the rest of us who r here studying hard dont want some hyper fools to create more problems for us in sept or even after. leve acfd alone and spare for wat has happened. if somebody failed r didnt get as much high score i think they should analyize their own study strength than blaming it all on acfd or khan2 or watever. i think v all need to cum out of this turmoil now or it will only drown us farther and JUS STUDY n work hard plz.
and i agree with the last post about sdn in being notice of acfd. ofcourse it is and if ppl think otherwise than they shuld accept this fact too.
God bless u all

monreal
06-17-2008, 10:53 AM
What happened had to be done long time ago, and this should go on to eliminate all the repeated questions from this exam. Here is why:
1-These questions are not accessible to everyone. Instead they are secretly exchanged by applicants in their own communities... which is unfair... now this has nothing to do with the ADA Boards and ASDA legally released questions available to all. Do not compare.
2-Not everybody knows about that Narish (I didnt)... This too is unfair
3-Not everyone knows about this forum..unfair too.
4-High scorers were those who redid the exam multible times, and remembered more questions. Without repeating questions, only well prepared candidates can score high in the test, no matter how many times one writes the exam. Isn't is awesome?
5-Agree that this way the mean would be lower, and the higher score would be lower, unless the ACFD adjust them. Not a big deal because the competition is always dependant on the applicant pool.
6-Exam items reproduction is against the exam policy. You signed on that before writing the exam, so stop cheating.

As for me, May 2008 was my first attempt, and I made it my last by hard working, but that couldnt be possible without removing the repeated questions, which made the exam fair to everyone who prepared well, and didn't just memorize remembred stuffs. My advice: concentrate on the ACFD references list, and stop gathering poorly constructed remembered questions with missing options which are likely to be the right answers, as far as I noticed in this thread:).

drchirags73
06-18-2008, 04:58 AM
Hello everybody, I have been silently observing the discussion since last 2 months. Please restrain yourself from using names or accusing a particular person. Here are some facts.

1. May 2008 results - More than 25 students with above 90%
- More than 55 studetns above 85%
The result was unduly high.

2. Simply memorizing past questions is not enough. Each person has to read for atleast 5 hours a day to achive a good score for atleast 45 days.

3. Using personal names without proof leaves open ground for defamation law suite with solid proof on the hands of the other party.

Please use this site to organise your efforts, build a team, bring in your queries, make professional friends.. even find your soul mate..if I may.

Best of luck. and as someone had rightly put it in a previous post...........................stop digging your own grave.

monreal
06-18-2008, 05:33 PM
Hello everybody, I have been silently observing the discussion since last 2 months. Please restrain yourself from using names or accusing a particular person. Here are some facts.

1. May 2008 results - More than 25 students with above 90%
- More than 55 studetns above 85%
The result was unduly high.

2. Simply memorizing past questions is not enough. Each person has to read for atleast 5 hours a day to achive a good score for atleast 45 days.

3. Using personal names without proof leaves open ground for defamation law suite with solid proof on the hands of the other party.

Please use this site to organise your efforts, build a team, bring in your queries, make professional friends.. even find your soul mate..if I may.

Best of luck. and as someone had rightly put it in a previous post...........................stop digging your own grave.

Any source for your first "fact"?

virgosontander
06-19-2008, 12:51 PM
What happened had to be done long time ago, and this should go on to eliminate all the repeated questions from this exam. Here is why:
1-These questions are not accessible to everyone. Instead they are secretly exchanged by applicants in their own communities... which is unfair... now this has nothing to do with the ADA Boards and ASDA legally released questions available to all. Do not compare.
2-Not everybody knows about that Narish (I didnt)... This too is unfair
3-Not everyone knows about this forum..unfair too.
4-High scorers were those who redid the exam multible times, and remembered more questions. Without repeating questions, only well prepared candidates can score high in the test, no matter how many times one writes the exam. Isn't is awesome?
5-Agree that this way the mean would be lower, and the higher score would be lower, unless the ACFD adjust them. Not a big deal because the competition is always dependant on the applicant pool.
6-Exam items reproduction is against the exam policy. You signed on that before writing the exam, so stop cheating.

As for me, May 2008 was my first attempt, and I made it my last by hard working, but that couldnt be possible without removing the repeated questions, which made the exam fair to everyone who prepared well, and didn't just memorize remembred stuffs. My advice: concentrate on the ACFD references list, and stop gathering poorly constructed remembered questions with missing options which are likely to be the right answers, as far as I noticed in this thread:).
So What's really your point of view? I just want to know pls. Thanks:confused:

virgosontander
06-19-2008, 12:52 PM
Hello everybody, I have been silently observing the discussion since last 2 months. Please restrain yourself from using names or accusing a particular person. Here are some facts.

1. May 2008 results - More than 25 students with above 90%
- More than 55 studetns above 85%
The result was unduly high.

2. Simply memorizing past questions is not enough. Each person has to read for atleast 5 hours a day to achive a good score for atleast 45 days.

3. Using personal names without proof leaves open ground for defamation law suite with solid proof on the hands of the other party.

Please use this site to organise your efforts, build a team, bring in your queries, make professional friends.. even find your soul mate..if I may.

Best of luck. and as someone had rightly put it in a previous post...........................stop digging your own grave.

So, what's really your point of views? Pls. post this thanks :confused:

monreal
06-19-2008, 01:39 PM
So What's really your point of view? I just want to know pls. Thanks:confused:

Its already posted man. My post is clear enough!

IM VERY GLAD THAT YOU KNEW WHAT HAPPENED & THE INCONVENIENCE THAT LEAD US TO FAILED THE EE. ITS VERY UNFAIR THAT THEY REMOVED THE LEAK QUESTION AND MOST LIKELY MY CORRECT ANSWERS. I FAILED THE EE, I GOT LESS BEC. OF WHAT THEY DID? MAYBE IT'S BETTER THEY REPEAT AGAIN THE EXAM SO THAT IT WILL BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY! PLS. TELL ME WHAT'S YOUR VIEW ABOUT THIS. AGAIN, WE HAVE TO UNITE TO OBTAIN JUSTICE!PLS EMAIL ME OR SENT RESPONSE WITH THIS. THANKS & GOD BLESS!:idea:
Sorry you failed it, but its not anybody's fault that you only could answer/know repeated questions. You can repeat the test next September.

Best of luck

mydentist
06-20-2008, 09:26 AM
i was just going thru d previous discussions...

cummon guys lets invest r energies in d right direction n leave all d worries 4 acfd....:meanie:

n now can ne1 plzzz help me.... i 'll b taking EE for d first time... i'm from india... doing my intern ... will take EE in may...:)

if u cld giude me abt d refernce books n stuff...:confused:

thnx...:luck:

virgosontander
06-20-2008, 11:06 AM
What happened had to be done long time ago, and this should go on to eliminate all the repeated questions from this exam. Here is why:
1-These questions are not accessible to everyone. Instead they are secretly exchanged by applicants in their own communities... which is unfair... now this has nothing to do with the ADA Boards and ASDA legally released questions available to all. Do not compare.
2-Not everybody knows about that Narish (I didnt)... This too is unfair
3-Not everyone knows about this forum..unfair too.
4-High scorers were those who redid the exam multible times, and remembered more questions. Without repeating questions, only well prepared candidates can score high in the test, no matter how many times one writes the exam. Isn't is awesome?
5-Agree that this way the mean would be lower, and the higher score would be lower, unless the ACFD adjust them. Not a big deal because the competition is always dependant on the applicant pool.
6-Exam items reproduction is against the exam policy. You signed on that before writing the exam, so stop cheating.

As for me, May 2008 was my first attempt, and I made it my last by hard working, but that couldnt be possible without removing the repeated questions, which made the exam fair to everyone who prepared well, and didn't just memorize remembred stuffs. My advice: concentrate on the ACFD references list, and stop gathering poorly constructed remembered questions with missing options which are likely to be the right answers, as far as I noticed in this thread:).

So you mean to say, you passed the ee? Its your first & last exam or you will to take again nedxt sept. Pls reply thanks

virgosontander
06-20-2008, 11:09 AM
Hello everyone..
Please take a few moments to email ACFD if you have not already done so because the more people who express their concerns the better...
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virgosontander
06-20-2008, 11:10 AM
:thumbup:better thing to do than just being negative when so many other things around us are bothering ...................
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virgosontander
06-20-2008, 11:10 AM
Everybody stop whining

And do some thing about it, if you are certain that there were cheating involved.
I agree with one of the posters it is a lose- lose situation for every one involved if the exam is annuled.

Time to hit the books.
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virgosontander
06-20-2008, 11:11 AM
Has anyone received any news from the ACFD about the complaints with the may exam?
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virgosontander
06-20-2008, 11:12 AM
Yes i recieved a letter from acfd Today stating that , ACFD will remove potentially affected questions from the recent exam prior to scoring.:)
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virgosontander
06-20-2008, 11:12 AM
This could potentially have made it worse for all of us; it depends on the questions they remove.Personally, I hope they don't take out the questions that I answered correctly. I hope well for all you out there too.
We should try to help one another. Most exams worldwide whether it be dentistry, medicine etc. have a pool of remembered questions which are often repeated. Let's be productive and not create a civil war.At the end of the day we all suffer.
Bottom line: we are just immigrants to them. we are just a storm in a tea cup!! They have more important issues to deal with than the foreign graduates fighting amongst themselves & accusing one another of cheating.
Let's get on & discuss dental questions!!!
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virgosontander
06-20-2008, 11:13 AM
Shame Shame to all those who were CRY babies and wrote and complained to the ACFD, i just wonder and think how can u guys be so stupid,dont u do your research before the exams. In fact the questions which were posted are all OLD PREVIOUS Exam questions, and our only way to score high marks in the exams is if these questions r repeated every year. But now due to the OVERENTHUSIASM of a few fools we lose that oppurtinity.God forgive them coz these fools do not know what they do.
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virgosontander
06-20-2008, 11:16 AM
i really would like to thank those idiots who contacted the acfd , and i wana tell them they screwed themelves and screwed us , also hope they dont pass now to see the hell next sep. and for the ppl whoo had some questions from their previous trials to throw them away . and start all over again from zero , :thumbdown
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virgosontander
06-20-2008, 11:17 AM
hey,,i thnk most of the people who r very angry over all this thng are those people who have all these posted questions and in my opinion they r kind of people who have a group of 20 or 30 people ,,whose only purpose is to get all these questions and then find answers and keep all these questions amongst there own communities and thats why u will notice that why some specific nationalities always get scores above 85%...:thumbdown
but thanxz god now hopefully this unfair cheating will be over and there will be a real and fair competition among all of us ,,especially those who dont have access to this unfair cheating and stuff...:mad:
i know some people are very angry bcz all they use to do was to jus memorize those questions that they have n score above 85 or even 90 % and then get admisiion,,but wat about all of us,,who work hard and in the end have to suffer bcz of dese unfair means...
anyways hopefully now these people will have to take another 5,6 years to collect all these questions so far all of us this is the time 2 work hard and kick dre ass!!!!:)
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virgosontander
06-20-2008, 11:18 AM
Learn to respect others, besides even memorizing questions is a harder job by the way.its not ur job to say who deserves to be accepted, also when u finish the ee stage soon u will know its not always about scores!!
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virgosontander
06-20-2008, 11:19 AM
Did Anyone Recieved The Ee Result???
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virgosontander
06-20-2008, 11:24 AM
I can not believe that some people, such as the ones mentioned above and others like them, promote on this forum the promiscuity, the unfairness and the illegal network that has developed around this exam. I do not have proof yet, but I am convinced that some of the professors are as well involved in all this mess. There is no other way that the shop owned by Mr. Naresh can function right in the neighbourhood of the University of Toronto. And this shop is illegal no matter what false pretences uses for functioning. Selling photocopied tests from previous years is illegal.
I could even close my eyes to his illegal business, since everyone has access to it, there is no real advantage for anyone, but I can not close my eyes to seeing 100 questions posted on internet before the EE. You know why? Because 90% of those questions were included in the EE. Those questions were not randomly selected form the previous 3-4 years. Anyone can do the math. If I could select the right questions from the previous years so accurately, I would be playing lottery. Furthermore if anyone reads other forums, this guy has posted another 100 questions on other dental forums.
I do not want anyone to believe that I am targeting any students or dentists. This is not what I want. My target is the unfair and corrupted access system that was put in place by the ACFD, with one purpose: to demoralize and to humiliate the majority of the honest and hard working foreign dentist and to facilitate the access of the “CONNECTED” people. This system has to change for the better.
Let’s take for example this guy who started all this, KHAN2 or whatever his name is. He wants to be a dentist, but he is so retarded that he can’t even answer some of the most basic questions, he had to post them on-line to get answers. And you know what? I do not think that anyone wants their dental problems be treated by such a specimen. Definitely this guy does not deserve to pass the EE.
I do not care how hard my actions are going to make this exam for me. It will be as hard for everyone else, but at least we would all be treated equally, which is not what has been happening so far. I want my exam paper to be sealed, put in a computer and the results provided right away or within 24 hours. I want one session of exams for each year, not two sessions. Why? Because the exams are not the same, which means that two different groups of people are not treated equally. Look at the results now. The average is 74%. In September was 70%. I am not saying it was easier, maybe for some of us it was, but it was different. Someone who got 85% in September (the highest score was 91%) was probably thinking that they had a shot at getting in. Guess what? They won’t. Because the highest score in May is 96%. How is this fair?
There are 72 books on the reference text list. That’s what everyone should be studying. And that’s it.
Like I said before, I will not let this one go away. Because is my right to be treated fair. I do not think that I am.

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virgosontander
06-20-2008, 11:34 AM
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virgosontander
06-20-2008, 11:36 AM
the questions that khan 2 has written here have all come in the exam...........how does he know that these questions were going to come........every single question came...........i am shocked!!!!!!!!!!
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virgosontander
06-20-2008, 11:37 AM
We Are Not Going To Accept That Someone Was Aware About The Questions 5 Days Before Exam And You Cant Say That He Was Guessing Because Each And Every Multiple Choice Is Also Matching With Acfd Paper 2008
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virgosontander
06-20-2008, 11:37 AM
the strange thing is i couldn't see the post. how come those long thread only shows up to 3 pages. don't understand. what i saw is those posts from 3/2008-5/9/2008 are missing. damn those are the most important...
what's wrong with it?
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virgosontander
06-20-2008, 11:39 AM
I cannot agree with you more.:thumbup:
I am one of the victims. Cheating just lies before us, we must try to protect ourselves since nobody can do that for us.
Just as you said,one or two letters,one or two guys would not make sense. I have written to acfd about the cheating this time, but nobody answers me till now.
We do need to use our brains.Before that,we should be together.

Shall we send our msn or something like that to some one via the pm?
I think once there is an incisor,the premolars and molars will come for sure.
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virgosontander
06-20-2008, 11:40 AM
If you don't have anything constructive to say please don't mock the few of us who think there is something suspicious going on...Note, I said "think" and not "sure"...This is an inkling...We don't know..Chances are we are wrong...Chances are that this is a very rare coincidence(it is possible)...But at the same time from what we can see in black and white in front of us(the exam paper staring at us few days before the exam), this is how we feel...Again we can be wrong but we can be right too...We are all human beings...So please don't make fun of the few of us that feel this way...We are under enough stress/strain (Modulus Of Elasticity) already, having our lives brought to a stand still, etc.........................
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virgosontander
06-20-2008, 11:40 AM
which of the following microrganisms r frequently found in infected root canals?
a-strp viridans
b-staph aureus
c-lactob
d-enterococci
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virgosontander
06-20-2008, 11:41 AM
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virgosontander
06-20-2008, 11:43 AM
hey plant this is what i think.. but others also help as i am not sure.. thanks buddy..put few more questions
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virgosontander
06-20-2008, 11:45 AM
can you please help me with these questions
253. Which of the following will correct right away?
a. AOB + thumb sucking + tongue thrust
b. Class ill
c. Crossbite
254. Mesiodens +diastema + lateral tipped distally
· ,
52.What is true about Mandibular growth-it growth vertically than
horizontally
Or latent growth in premature sprue
Or girls complete mandibular growth 100% by age 13

57.What to treat fIrst ?? Anterior open bite with thump sucking or
crossbite
interfere with
58.how do you know a malocclusion is skeletal or dental in nature
Physiologic movement
132.Mesial Terminal plane include----Class I and class III or class II
l33.If fracture unilateral condyle on a child-what would happen
Affect mandibular growth
Ankylosis
Class II
l35.if 16 erupting but 55 interfer distally with erupting 16 -what to
do?
Trimm distal side of 55 or extract 55 or extract 16
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Hi I just want to know what's your reaction when they said that the questions that you had been posted were all leaked question for the May 2008.Did you pass the ee? Thanks for replying

virgosontander
06-20-2008, 11:47 AM
:luck:
Are you a Filipino? Have you taken the ee lately? Did you pass it? What's your recation about posted questions? Pls. reply TY

virgosontander
06-20-2008, 11:48 AM
Milk is the best place to put the tooth in because of its pH (6.5-6.8) and can be conserved for up to 6 hours

Saliva is the second choice after milk, up to 2 hours

(if the patient is not carefull, he can swallow the tooth before he arrives to the clinic :laugh:)
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SCDC
07-01-2008, 01:59 PM
Did'nt took the exam in may , will be doing it this september.

chd
07-01-2008, 07:12 PM
It's obvious that this site is on the radar of the ACFD which makes it difficult to openly discuss some issues now.
If there are 2 or 3 other like minded people out there that are willing to get down to some solid work for the exam let me know. I passed a similar exam in Europe where we attacked the paper in a specific, systematic manner with 4 of us in the group; we all passed comfortably!! I moved to Canada as I followed my husband. The technique we used can work here, but it needs a collective approach. It doesn't matter too much which part of Canada you're in but it means spending lengthy time either on the phone if not in person. We are better of together as opposed to being individuals lost in the vastness of this country & spending years repeating the exam. Please contact me if you're interested via the contact member link.

Avani
07-11-2008, 11:13 PM
I need some studying partners to discuz some exam questions online,will anyone agree to set a study group?
the past passed,let's face the coming~~

Kobidad
07-18-2008, 08:40 AM
Hi I'm in Vancouver..I'm registered to take the EE on UBC this Sept. Now, I got a lot of time in my hands and I'm frantically looking for a study group and pour out all I have in this exam. It's good to talk to someone that's on the same boat. Anybody?

Twinny
07-23-2008, 12:07 PM
I need some studying partners to discuz some exam questions online,will anyone agree to set a study group?
the past passed,let's face the coming~~

count me in,am interested in the online study group when do we start and what time? thanks

shinebaby100
07-24-2008, 10:29 PM
I need some studying partners to discuz some exam questions online,will anyone agree to set a study group?
the past passed,let's face the coming~~


Hi , im interested to join the online study group too. When could we start. let me know.

thkz

Avani
07-25-2008, 02:42 PM
count me in,am interested in the online study group when do we start and what time? thanks

hi!my msn is avani_shock@live.cn.
:D:D

Sheranthi
07-25-2008, 03:42 PM
It's obvious that this site is on the radar of the ACFD which makes it difficult to openly discuss some issues now.
If there are 2 or 3 other like minded people out there that are willing to get down to some solid work for the exam let me know. I passed a similar exam in Europe where we attacked the paper in a specific, systematic manner with 4 of us in the group; we all passed comfortably!! I moved to Canada as I followed my husband. The technique we used can work here, but it needs a collective approach. It doesn't matter too much which part of Canada you're in but it means spending lengthy time either on the phone if not in person. We are better of together as opposed to being individuals lost in the vastness of this country & spending years repeating the exam. Please contact me if you're interested via the contact member link.
Dear Friend,
I want to prepare for May 2009 I would like to be in a study group. I am in Toronto. A Sri lankan Dentist. email , rameshfer@hotmail.com
Pls. reply

Sheranthi
07-25-2008, 03:56 PM
I need some studying partners to discuz some exam questions online,will anyone agree to set a study group?
the past passed,let's face the coming~~

Hi Avani
I would like to be in a study group. Iwant to do the EE in May 09. My mail-rameshfer@hotmail.com.
Tks / Bye
Shira

dense in dent
07-27-2008, 12:22 PM
I'm preparing for EE sept 2008, anybody willing to join the study group are welcome. i live in scarborough. Any tips to improve the scores are welcome...

Twinny
07-31-2008, 12:08 PM
hi!my msn is avani_shock@live.cn.
:D:D

ok thanks when do we start my msn is conniebose@hotmail.com,add me to your list,bye

dana12
08-02-2008, 09:46 AM
Hi guys,:)
I want to go for May 2009 EE.Could anybody give me some info and tips please?
Thanks

dana12
08-02-2008, 10:57 AM
...................

Twinny
08-04-2008, 08:43 PM
It's obvious that this site is on the radar of the ACFD which makes it difficult to openly discuss some issues now.
If there are 2 or 3 other like minded people out there that are willing to get down to some solid work for the exam let me know. I passed a similar exam in Europe where we attacked the paper in a specific, systematic manner with 4 of us in the group; we all passed comfortably!! I moved to Canada as I followed my husband. The technique we used can work here, but it needs a collective approach. It doesn't matter too much which part of Canada you're in but it means spending lengthy time either on the phone if not in person. We are better of together as opposed to being individuals lost in the vastness of this country & spending years repeating the exam. Please contact me if you're interested via the contact member link.

hi chd,
am still waiting for your response,take care pls check your PM,thanks

SCDC
08-10-2008, 02:32 PM
Hi chd include me in your list please , my email is Roy_0611@yahoo.com

SCDC
08-12-2008, 08:15 PM
differencial diagnosis for acute periapical abcess?

lolitadento
08-15-2008, 09:17 PM
any body has take ee please tell us your experinces

and which study stuff did u study from? from where did u take it?

any body in hamilton on planing to take the ee please contact

mahd33
08-21-2008, 07:41 AM
differencial diagnosis for acute periapical abcess?
I think PHONIX ABCESS:cool:

eebigdog
08-21-2008, 06:52 PM
differencial diagnosis for acute periapical abcess?

acute periodontal abcess : pulp is vital

Alexdent
08-23-2008, 09:28 AM
Any news about EE sept 08.

Alexdent
08-23-2008, 09:43 AM
Hi ,any body or study groupe interest for revision EE and questions review via email my e mail krefky2002@yahoo.com.

SCDC
08-26-2008, 02:16 PM
other members , please post your answers,
when you reply please describe why you arrived at that answer,
also please quote any text books along with the page no, where you found the answer.

SCDC
08-26-2008, 02:17 PM
when is enamel maturation completed? before or after eruption?

eebigdog
08-26-2008, 07:12 PM
when is enamel maturation completed? before or after eruption?

After eruption 100%
....and sorry, i have no references...i just know the answer

Twinny
08-26-2008, 10:32 PM
hi,need help with these please,thanks

46. You could use a large condenser and lateral condensation in
which alloy?
a. lathe cut
b. admixed
c. spherical
d. high copper
e. low copper
47. Which of the following can cause a deficient margin in the
proximal of an amalgam restoration?
a. tight matrix
b. no contouring of the band
c. large increment of amalgam
d. no wedge used
48. Where is recurrent decay most seen in class II composite?
a. facioproximal
b. linguoproximal
c. gingivoproximal
d. occlusal
49. Cantilever bridges are not good in the long term BECAUSE
periodontal forces are best along the long axes of teeth.
a. statement is correct reason is not
b. statement and reason are correct NOT related
c. statement and reason are correct and related
d. statement is wrong but reason is correct
e. both are wrong
50. A patient has a high caries index short crowns and minumum
horizontal overlap. What restoration will you place?
a. ¾ crown
b. jacket crown
c. PFM
d. resin bonded retainer
51. There is a small carious lesion in the superficial part of the
lissure. How will you treat it?
a. composite
b. sealant

c. enameloplasty
d. amalgam
52. A class V for amalgam and composite are same EXCEPT?
a. uniformly placed in dentin
b. retention grooves placed
c. sharp internal angles
d. need for contouring
53. How do you diagnose class III caries?
a. x-ray
b. vitality test
c. transillumination
54. If you are doing a class II prep and there is a a deep axial
wall, where do you place the retention?
a. on the buccal and lingual wall
55. The direction of mesial and distal walls of a Class V amalgam cavity
preparation is determined by the
a. necessity of retention
b. size of carious lesion
c. direction of the enamel rods
d. gingivoaxial and occlusoaxial line angles
56. When pins are included in an amalgam cavity preparation, the strength of the
amalgam is
a. increased
b. decreased
c. unchanged
57. It has become necessary to remove a conservative DO inlay from maxillary
second premolar. The method of choice is to
a. break the cement bond with chisel and mallet
b. use a threaded-type inlay remover to lift the inlay
c. cut the inlay out completely with rotary instruments
d. use a conventional crown and bridge remove4r to break the cement bond.
e. Cut through the isthmus to remove the proximal and the occlusal in two
pieces

58. When removing a rubber dam, the first step should be to
a. remove the clamp
b. release the holder
c. apply a water-soluble lubricant
d. cut the interseptal rubber with scissors
e. massage the gingival tissues under the dam
59. Cavity varnish is indicated under amalgam restorations because cavity
varnish
a. prevents galvanic currents from reaching the pulp
b. improves the marginal seal of the restoration
c. completely seals the dentinal tubules
d. is an effective thermal insulator
e. All of the above
60. A patient has sensitivity in a mandibular premolar. A well-condensed Class V
dental amalgam restoration was placed in the tooth five months
previously, with no discomfort for the first four months. Since then, it has
become painful. The problem probably relates to
a. marginal leakage
b. toothbrush abrasion
c. a fractured restoration
d. irreversible pupal damage
61. The most common cause of fracture at the isthmus of class II dental
amalgam restoration is
a. delayed expansion
b. inadequate depth at the isthmus area
c. inadequate width at the isthmus area
d. moisture contamination of the amalgam during placement
62. The outline form of a cavity preparation is the
a. shape or form of the preparation after carious
dentin has been excavated
b. shape or form the preparation assumes after retention form has been
completed
c. shape or form of the preparation on the surface of the tooth
d. first step to be accomplished in cavity preparation after carious dentin has
been removed
e. next step to be accomplished in cavity preparation after resistance form
has been established

63. The amount of force needed to compact direct filling gold properly is
influenced most by the
a. angle of compaction
b. surface area of the condenser
c. bulk of the surrounding tooth
d. temperature at which the gold is annealed
64. Which of the following is a reason for sealing caries into the cavity?
a. to eliminate the need for eventual direct pulp
capping
b. to produce as aseptic field when pulp exposure is inevitable
c. to allow the formation of secondary dentin before complete excavation
d. to produce a hard surface as a foundation for the sub sequent restoration
65. Adaptation of a matrix band to the gingival aspect of a class II dental
amalgam cavity preparation may be most difficult in which of the following
preparations?
a. A DO in a mandibular second molar
b. A DO in a mandibular second premolar
c. A DO in a maxillary first premolar
d. A MO in a maxillary first premolar
e. A MO in a maxillary second premolar
66. The external shape of an initial Class V carious lesion in enamel is related to
the
a. lines of Retzius
b. contour of the gingiva
c. number of enamel tufts
d. enamel lamella in the lesion
67. During preparation for a cast gold restoration, the tooth tissue that is
weakened by the cavity preparation and subjected to damage by the
forces of mastication must be
a. reduced and covered by the cast restoration
b. strengthened by the use of cement or an amalgam core
c. protected by restoring to full coverage of the tooth
d. beveled, and the patient reminded not to exert undue forces on the tooth

68. Different microstructure has been described for gold foil, mat gold and
granular or powered gold. It has been demonstrated at the microscopic
level that the
a. void spaces remain in any compacted gold
b. gold foil is more porous than any other form of gold
c. crystalline golds can be packed densely more readily than gold foil
d. proper compaction can remove all voids from commercially available
direct filling golds
69. Retention placed in a ClassV cavity prepared for direct filing gold should be
at
a. occlusoaxial and gingivoaxial line angles
b. mesioaxial and distoaxial line angles
c. mesiogingival and distogingival line angles
d. axial line angles circumferentially
e. none of the above
70. Within an hour after cementation of cast gold restoration on an
unanesthetized tooth,
the patient complains of a “shooting pain” every time the teeth come together.
The most probable explanation is
a. supraocclussionof the restoration
b. an allergic reaction to components of the gold alloy
c. improper removal of cement from the onlay margins
d. a galvanic current caused by the gold onlay occluding with a large
amalgam restoration
e. none of the above
71. Marginal leakage related to temperature change occurs to the greatest extent
with
a. amalgam alloy
b. unfilled resin
c. composite resin
d. direct filling gold
72. Threaded pins used to retain amalgam should be placed
a. parallel to each other only
b. parallel to each other and parallel to the long axis of the crown
c. so the edge of the pin channel is 0.02 mm. From the dentinoenamel
junction.
d. At 25,00 rpm to ensure that the pin reaches the full depth of the channel

e. None of the above
73. The treatment of choice for hypersensitive erosion areas is to
a. apply a sodium fluoride paste
b. place a glass ionomer restoration
c. burnish sodium metaphosphate inot the dentin
d. apply an 8% solution of stannous fluoride
e. treat the surface with orthophosphoric acid and apply resin
74. Dental floss is applied to the distal bow of the clamp and allowed to extend
from the mouth so that the
a. dental floss may be used to stabilize the clamp if
necessary
b. clamp may be easily retrieved if it slips from the
clamp forceps or the tooth
c. clamp may be easily removed from the tooth
upon completion of the procedure
d. all of the above
75. The occlusal isthmus of an MO dental amalgam restoration is more resistant
to fracture if the
a. pulpal depth is 1mm
b. occlusal dovetail is present
c. axiopulpal line angle is rounded
d. unsupported enamel at the gingivocavosurface margin is planed
76.Which of the following statements correctly describes the relationship
between marginal leakage of an amalgam restoration and age of the
restoration?
a. marginal leakage increases as the restoration ages
b. marginal leakage decreases as the restoration ages
c. marginal leakage is severe throughout the life of the restoration
d. marginal leakage does not exist throughout the life of the restoration
77. Which of the following is a fundamental guideline that governs the outline
form of a class II cavity prepartion?
a. avoid angles in the proximal outline
b. extend the gingival margin beneath the free margin of the gingival
c. extend the margins until sound enamel is obtained within the cavity outline
d. include pits and fissures in the occlusal surface if the patient is very
susceptible to caries

78. When using the acid etch technique to restore a class IV fracture, exposed
dentin should first be covered with
a. cavity varnish
b. phosphoric acid
c. a calcium hydroxide liner
d. zinc oxide-eugenol cement
79.In preparing a cavity for restoration with composite resin combined with an
acid etch technique, all enamel cavosurface angles should be
a. well rounded
b. right angles
c. acute angles
d. obtuse angles
80. If the proximal box is too wide to allow facioaxial and linguoaxial grooves to
oppose one another, which of the following should be done?
a. cut grooves in the axial wall
b. cut retentive grooves deeper
c. use a pin or slots on the gingival floor
d. extend the preparation more on the occlusal surface
81. Threaded pins are used in large dental amalgam restorations to provide
a. retention form
b. resistance form
c. occlusal stops for opposing teeth
d. much needed reinforcement of the
amalgam
82. Direct pulp capping is indicated when there is
a. a large exposure
b. pain response to cold
c. no hemorrhage from the exposure
d. an accidental mechanical exposure in clean, dry field
e. All of the above
83. The only area where cavosurface margins or wall junctions of an onlay cavity
are never beveled or planed is where the
a. pupal wall meets the axial wall
b. gingival bevel meets the proximal external planes

c. external planes of the proximal portion join the bevel of the occlusal
portion
d. none of the above
84. In diagnosing interproximal carious lesions (class II and class III) that cannot
be explored directly, a good supplement to the radiograph is
a. reviewing the patient’s history of caries activity
b. examining the corresponding tooth in the
occluding quadrant
c. examining for color changes or loss