Well, I do!!!
I have to bury myself in my studies and maintain a social life at the same time! there is no time to sleep...sleeping is for babies!!!

BTW, "Sleep is the cousin to death" comes from a hiphop song New York State of Mind by Nas...incredible track!! :cool:

Now Who Agrees?? we need serious posters here...cuz we all come in bunches with nonsense :D

Well, I do!!!
I have to bury myself in my studies and maintain a social life at the same time! there is no time to sleep...sleeping is for babies!!!

BTW, "Sleep is the cousin to death" comes from a hiphop song New York State of Mind by Nas...incredible track!! :cool:

Now Who Agrees?? :D

You forgot to add "lurk on SDN when avoiding my studies and my social duties"

You forgot to add "lurk on SDN when avoiding my studies and my social duties"

I just picked up on the SDN fad so i guess you can say that ! :)

nas tells the truth. thats how he knocked up that milkshake girl.

i read somewhere that all humans need is 5 1/2 hours of sleep to fxn at full capacity and anything more is just a matter of habit. anyone know for sure?
-mota

nas tells the truth. thats how he knocked up that milkshake girl.

i read somewhere that all humans need is 5 1/2 hours of sleep to fxn at full capacity and anything more is just a matter of habit. anyone know for sure?
-mota

no doubt Nas is GOAT... :laugh: milkshake kelis is lookin fine in her new video Im bossy though...

BTW, ive always heard that a healthy human being needs 7-8 hrs of sleep...i dont know if im brainwashed with that statement

i disagree, sleep is the uncle of death

i disagree, sleep is the uncle of death

Cousin because i never sleep buddy....if i lay myself to rest, im afraid i'll die of sleep :sleep:

BTW im heading to bed so you'll be doing all the living :) :sleep:

wow :wow: ...deep words. And I thought twinkies were the cousins of Death. "I once was blind, but now I see...."

Cousin because i never sleep buddy....if i lay myself to rest, im afraid i'll die of sleep :sleep:

BTW im heading to bed so you'll be doing all the living :) :sleep:

So then you really are a baby?

So then you really are a baby?

maybe, but let's not talk about that :)
im gone remember?

Can't we all agree that death has many, many cousins? Like sleep, twinkies, Kevin Federline's music, the smell of gasoline, grizzly bears, the color mauve, red velvet, and sour milk, to name a few.

Can't we all agree that death has many, many cousins? Like sleep, twinkies, Kevin Federline's music, the smell of gasoline, grizzly bears, the color mauve, red velvet, and sour milk, to name a few.

forget all that crazy jazz...it's only sleep!! people can die in their sleep, you know?

i know that i cant function on 5.5 hours of sleep hahaa are you nuts??
if you workout 3-4 days a week, sleep is imperative. i get about 9 hours a day.. call me a big baby. my colleagues in OD school seem to survive with 5 hours during exam week, not me.

i cant help it, i just fall asleep in class or while i study if i dont get enough. i wish i wasnt like this :mad:

i know that i cant function on 5.5 hours of sleep hahaa are you nuts??
if you workout 3-4 days a week, sleep is imperative. i get about 9 hours a day.. call me a big baby. my colleagues in OD school seem to survive with 5 hours during exam week, not me.

i cant help it, i just fall asleep in class or while i study if i dont get enough. i wish i wasnt like this :mad:


The best study out there suggests that we need about 8 1/2 hours of sleep with a fair amount of variability. The people who say we need less are either the very rare exeption or just wrong. There are actually a number of studies that compare people who are chronically partially sleep deprived (with as much as 6 hours pernight) who show that they are impaired just as much as people who are legally intoxicated. Furthermore there are epidemiological studies that suggust that people getting 6 hours of sleep have a signifigantly higher mortality than those who get 8. They die more! There are also correlative studies with obesity and a few other nasties.
With all things considered you can usually fake it with less sleep but youre mood/judgement/vigilence probobly sufferes. This stuff is most easily seen when being inactive. If you are nodding off while being on the highway for more than 20 mins or while watching tv youre in trouble. What a lot of people dont reaslise is that if you actually get enough sleep youre waking hours will be better hours and you may end up being more productive.

Can't we all agree that death has many, many cousins? Like ... the smell of gasoline...

Okay, I actually really like the smell of gasoline. Me and gasoline are homies, not partners in death.

The best study out there suggests that we need about 8 1/2 hours of sleep with a fair amount of variability. The people who say we need less are either the very rare exeption or just wrong. There are actually a number of studies that compare people who are chronically partially sleep deprived (with as much as 6 hours pernight) who show that they are impaired just as much as people who are legally intoxicated. Furthermore there are epidemiological studies that suggust that people getting 6 hours of sleep have a signifigantly higher mortality than those who get 8. They die more! There are also correlative studies with obesity and a few other nasties.
With all things considered you can usually fake it with less sleep but youre mood/judgement/vigilence probobly sufferes. This stuff is most easily seen when being inactive. If you are nodding off while being on the highway for more than 20 mins or while watching tv youre in trouble. What a lot of people dont reaslise is that if you actually get enough sleep youre waking hours will be better hours and you may end up being more productive.
This has to depend on the person. I can't sleep more than 6 hrs. I just wake up and can't go back to sleep. However, if I get less than that, I get tired easily and have to take a nap. I've tried sleeping longer than 6 hrs; it just makes me more tired. I don't know...should I get myself tested to see if I'm sleep deprived or just "different"?

This has to depend on the person. I can't sleep more than 6 hrs. I just wake up and can't go back to sleep. However, if I get less than that, I get tired easily and have to take a nap. I've tried sleeping longer than 6 hrs; it just makes me more tired. I don't know...should I get myself tested to see if I'm sleep deprived or just "different"?


If you legitimately cant sleep more than 6 hours and 6 hours keeps you rested youre likely one of the outlyers and consider yourself lucky. You might want to google epworth sleepiness scale fill it out for yourself and see how you score. If youre over say 7 or 8 you might want to reconsider things.

If you legitimately cant sleep more than 6 hours and 6 hours keeps you rested youre likely one of the outlyers and consider yourself lucky. You might want to google epworth sleepiness scale fill it out for yourself and see how you score. If youre over say 7 or 8 you might want to reconsider things.
phew. I'm "normal," at least according to that scale.

nas tells the truth. thats how he knocked up that milkshake girl.

i read somewhere that all humans need is 5 1/2 hours of sleep to fxn at full capacity and anything more is just a matter of habit. anyone know for sure?
-mota
perhaps your body really needs 5.5 hours of sleep, but it may be deep sleep. I think you need the other 2.5 hours of sleep to make sure you are getting into the "deep" zone of sleeping. I think thats why the sleep necessary for people is anywhere from 7-10 hours (some people require more time to get into deep sleep, whether it be because of hyperactivity, thinking too much, insomnia, etc). Geezers probably need less sleep because they have nothing else to do. Just kidding.

Geezers probably need less sleep because they have nothing else to do.
Just because I'm a geezer doesn't mean that I don't have feelings! :(

Why is it that pre-med students are always telling me how little they sleep? In every lab I took, sleep was always the main conversation and no one ever gets tired of publicly announcing that they sleep five hours a night, sometimes less. Honestly, who cares???

It doesn't make you look tough. It makes you look insecure because you need to constantly tell everyone around you that you can endure very little sleep. If you want to talk about this with your friends, that's fine. I'm talking about people who speak loud on purpose so everyone can hear them. I even had one kid at the beginning of lab lecture announce out of nowhere to the entire class that he stayed up all night and he wasn't even tired. It's lame and immature, and if I have to hear it for four more years in medical school I might have to actually say something.

Why is it that pre-med students are always telling me how little they sleep? In every lab I took, sleep was always the main conversation and no one ever gets tired of publicly announcing that they sleep five hours a night, sometimes less. Honestly, who cares???

It doesn't make you look tough. It makes you look insecure because you need to constantly tell everyone around you that you can endure very little sleep. If you want to talk about this with your friends, that's fine. I'm talking about people who speak loud on purpose so everyone can hear them. I even had one kid at the beginning of lab lecture announce out of nowhere to the entire class that he stayed up all night and he wasn't even tired. It's lame and immature, and if I have to hear it for four more years in medical school I might have to actually say something.
That's cuz there's nothing else to talk about in lab. It's LAB!

'sleep is the cousin of death' is actually a proverb from congo...but i will add that nas is very literate and his album illmatic is one of the most seminal hip hop albums

Sleep is essential. You need enough to function correctly.

Unless of course, you're one of those "super humans." They recently discovered rare individuals who can be awake for up to 62 hours with no measurable performance loss (as detected in the test where a sound/light goes off, and you flip a switch).

Furthermore there are epidemiological studies that suggust that people getting 6 hours of sleep have a signifigantly higher mortality than those who get 8. They die more!

Excellent analysis!

For some reason, this made me laugh. Maybe because its funny?

Well, I do!!!
I have to bury myself in my studies and maintain a social life at the same time! there is no time to sleep...sleeping is for babies!!!

BTW, "Sleep is the cousin to death" comes from a hiphop song New York State of Mind by Nas...incredible track!! :cool:

Now Who Agrees?? we need serious posters here...cuz we all come in bunches with nonsense :D

Hehehe ... yeah, I have a love-hate relationship with sleep. I love to sleep (especially because it takes me away from reality :D), but I hate sleep because it makes me feel guilty. :rolleyes: Plus, I love studying at night ... ah well ...

Excellent analysis!

For some reason, this made me laugh. Maybe because its funny?

No its all real stuff. People are amazed to hear that but its true. AS for the person who thinks that it takes 2-3 hours to get into deep sleep. Sleep is actually a very active state. You cycle between different kinds of sleep. Its true that if you deprive yourself of sleep you will sleep more efficiently and you will also spend more time in the deeper stages of sleep, but it certainly is not without its cost.

No its all real stuff. People are amazed to hear that but its true. AS for the person who thinks that it takes 2-3 hours to get into deep sleep. Sleep is actually a very active state. You cycle between different kinds of sleep. Its true that if you deprive yourself of sleep you will sleep more efficiently and you will also spend more time in the deeper stages of sleep, but it certainly is not without its cost.

Yeah, you fall into REM/slow-wave-sleep much faster because you have so much sleep pressure built up. Maybe more "efficiently" in terms of deep sleep:sleeping time ratio, but that's because your body is already so out of wack.

No its all real stuff. People are amazed to hear that but its true. AS for the person who thinks that it takes 2-3 hours to get into deep sleep. Sleep is actually a very active state. You cycle between different kinds of sleep. Its true that if you deprive yourself of sleep you will sleep more efficiently and you will also spend more time in the deeper stages of sleep, but it certainly is not without its cost.

no, no, no. I'm not saying anything about whether its real or not.

I just thought it was funny (it made me lol) that you wrote "a significantly higher mortality" = "they die more!"

Maybe I have a warped sense of humor?!

Why is it that pre-med students are always telling me how little they sleep? In every lab I took, sleep was always the main conversation and no one ever gets tired of publicly announcing that they sleep five hours a night, sometimes less. Honestly, who cares???

It doesn't make you look tough. It makes you look insecure because you need to constantly tell everyone around you that you can endure very little sleep. If you want to talk about this with your friends, that's fine. I'm talking about people who speak loud on purpose so everyone can hear them. I even had one kid at the beginning of lab lecture announce out of nowhere to the entire class that he stayed up all night and he wasn't even tired. It's lame and immature, and if I have to hear it for four more years in medical school I might have to actually say something.

Yeah totally. Anyways, everyone on here should know that I slept for ONLY 2 HOURS LAST NIGHT!!!! And I feel awesome today!

I can also drink 15 beers without really getting drunk.

Ok c ya

Hey for all of you who don't sleep... it may be adding fat to your ass:

Sleep. 2004 Jun 15;27(4):661-6. Related Articles, Links


Comment in:
Sleep. 2004 Jun 15;27(4):602-3.

The association between short sleep duration and obesity in young adults: a 13-year prospective study.

Hasler G, Buysse DJ, Klaghofer R, Gamma A, Ajdacic V, Eich D, Rossler W, Angst J.

Mood and Anxiety Disorders Program, Intramural Research Program, National Institute of Mental Health, National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD, USA. g.hasler@bluewin.ch

STUDY OBJECTIVES: Obesity has become a major health problem with increasing prevalence. Given the limited availability of effective treatment of weight problems, the identification of potentially modifiable risk factors may lead to preventive approaches to obesity. The objective of this study was to test the hypothesis that short sleep duration is associated with obesity and weight gain during young adulthood. DESIGN: Prospective single-age cohort study of young adults. Information was derived from 4 interviews when participants were ages 27, 29, 34, and 40 years. SETTING: Community setting. PARTICIPANTS: 496 young adults. MEASUREMENTS AND RESULTS: Trained health professionals administered a semistructured interview for psychiatric and medical conditions and health habits. This study showed an association between short sleep duration and obesity (at age 27 years, odds ratio: 7.4, 95% confidence interval: 1.3-43.1) and a negative association between sleep duration and body mass index in young adults. These associations persisted after controlling for a variety of potentially confounding variables, including family history of weight problems, levels of physical activity, and demographic variables. Associations between sleep duration and obesity diminished after age 34 years. There was a trend (P = .08) for average change rate of weight gain to be negatively associated with average change rate of sleep duration. CONCLUSIONS: Because sleep duration is a potentially modifiable risk factor, these findings might have important clinical implications for the prevention and treatment of obesity.

This guy (http://www.thanhniennews.com/features/?catid=10&newsid=12673) is way more hardcore than any insecure premed. Is he for real? Maybe he's a biological oddity. Maybe sleep plays a different role in neurological metabolism than previously believed.

Did anybody see The Machinist? Awesome film.

'sleep is the cousin of death' is actually a proverb from congo...but i will add that nas is very literate and his album illmatic is one of the most seminal hip hop albums

you are absolutely correct Illmatic is that album. What else is interesting is that he has a middle school education...he pretty much educated himself with books!

BTW, i didn't know the title of the thread was a proverb from Congo!! damn thanks for that...

Just because I'm a geezer doesn't mean that I don't have feelings! :(
lol i'm sorry, when you're sad, i'm sad...


and that makes me a sad panda bear :(

http://www.strangedangers.com/images/content/111934.jpg

The best study out there suggests that we need about 8 1/2 hours of sleep with a fair amount of variability. The people who say we need less are either the very rare exeption or just wrong. There are actually a number of studies that compare people who are chronically partially sleep deprived (with as much as 6 hours pernight) who show that they are impaired just as much as people who are legally intoxicated. Furthermore there are epidemiological studies that suggust that people getting 6 hours of sleep have a signifigantly higher mortality than those who get 8. They die more! There are also correlative studies with obesity and a few other nasties.
With all things considered you can usually fake it with less sleep but youre mood/judgement/vigilence probobly sufferes. This stuff is most easily seen when being inactive. If you are nodding off while being on the highway for more than 20 mins or while watching tv youre in trouble. What a lot of people dont reaslise is that if you actually get enough sleep youre waking hours will be better hours and you may end up being more productive.


:idea: highly agree, need to get my 8 hours, lol

Hey all, I am actually a sleep tech and I get to stay up all night and watch others sleep! A general rule of thumb is 1hr of sleep for every 2hrs you are awake but, as with all things, it doesn't apply to everyone. From my experience watching others sleep, it takes a little while to get to your first REM cycle, but then later in the morning, like around 4-5am, people go into REM much more frequently and it usually lasts longer. So those of you that only sleep for 5-6 hours might be depriving yourself of that good old REM sleep. There are a lot of different theories about why REM is necessary, such as we act out our deviant behaviors when we are asleep (I have seen/heard some funny things we people are asleep!), memory consolidation, etc. A good book to check out is "The Promise of Sleep" by Dr. Dement. Any q's, let me know!

Hey allimcbutter, Do you know any side effects to sleep deprivation?^ Because everytime i get around 4-5 hrs of sleep i get bloody mucous in my nasal ! how gross? :thumbdown

I haven't encountered that one yet... Sometimes people complain of nasal congestion and dry throat, but that is usually due to sleep apnea. So, yours would be a good question for an ENT. I'll ask around the lab tonight to see if anyone else has some insight :)

I haven't encountered that one yet... Sometimes people complain of nasal congestion and dry throat, but that is usually due to sleep apnea. So, yours would be a good question for an ENT. I'll ask around the lab tonight to see if anyone else has some insight :)

i don't have any dry throat problems, but the nasal congestion sounds right on! im not sure about sleep apnea...no one has told me i snore yet :)

Hey all, I am actually a sleep tech and I get to stay up all night and watch others sleep! A general rule of thumb is 1hr of sleep for every 2hrs you are awake but, as with all things, it doesn't apply to everyone. From my experience watching others sleep, it takes a little while to get to your first REM cycle, but then later in the morning, like around 4-5am, people go into REM much more frequently and it usually lasts longer. So those of you that only sleep for 5-6 hours might be depriving yourself of that good old REM sleep. There are a lot of different theories about why REM is necessary, such as we act out our deviant behaviors when we are asleep (I have seen/heard some funny things we people are asleep!), memory consolidation, etc. A good book to check out is "The Promise of Sleep" by Dr. Dement. Any q's, let me know!

Where do you work? Iv been working for a while I do more managerial stuff now. I def don't miss the overnights ;)

A fair amount of people say that only SWS is really important except for proceedural mem consolodation.

Shockingly a pretty good book is sleep disorders for dummies...Iv used three different ones for three different classes and I dont think there really is a good intro book...that one might even be the best...I havnt checked out the Dement one though.

Hmmmmm ... I'm not expert in sleep, but having taken a class in Sleep (hehehe ;)), I've found that journal articles are the best source of info ... we didn't even have a book in the course 'cause my prof thought all the texts were pointless ... :p

Here are a couple of good papers we read on memory consolidation ...

A succinct summary of the case for a role of sleep in memory consolidation:
Stickgold et al. 2001. Sleep, learning, and dreams: Off-line memory reprocessing Science 294: 1052-1057.

A succinct summary of the case against a role of sleep in memory consolidation:
Siegel 2001. The REM sleep-memory consolidation hypothesis. Science 294: 1058-1063

Anywho, just thought someone might be interested in those. :)

I work at UCSF and despite the crazy schedule, it's a pretty good setup. I used to work for a company in the Midwest as a travel tech and I was working 60+ hours a week whereas out here, three nights in a stationary lab is full time! Where are you nontrad? Anyway, I figure it's good practice for pulling all-nighters once I'm in med school. And I'll have some funny stories to tell :)

if we all try to remember back to highschool, we will see sleep is but a metaphor for death...
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."

if we all try to remember back to highschool, we will see sleep is but a metaphor for death...
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."

and hence, Sleep is the Cousin of Death ! :)

BTW, incredible poem...can you link me the source?

and hence, Sleep is the Cousin of Death ! :)

BTW, incredible poem...can you link me the source?

It's Robert Frost's "Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening (http://www.bu.edu/favoritepoem/poems/frost/stopping.html) "

I work at UCSF and despite the crazy schedule, it's a pretty good setup. I used to work for a company in the Midwest as a travel tech and I was working 60+ hours a week whereas out here, three nights in a stationary lab is full time! Where are you nontrad? Anyway, I figure it's good practice for pulling all-nighters once I'm in med school. And I'll have some funny stories to tell :)

Im @ Columbia. It really is a world of difference working in an academic setting as apposed to one of the patient-mills. Sleep is a really great field. Are you interested in staying in it?

and hence, Sleep is the Cousin of Death ! :)

BTW, incredible poem...can you link me the source?


You're the first person I've met who isn't familiar with that poem. Congratulations. :rolleyes:

You're the first person I've met who isn't familiar with that poem. Congratulations. :rolleyes:

yeah, my first thought after reading that was, he doesn't know what poem that is!?

(but hey, that's cool)

You're the first person I've met who isn't familiar with that poem. Congratulations. :rolleyes:

I didn't know that poem. :p Now you know two. :D

Make it three. I guess the poem is standard in American grade school curricula?

Make it three. I guess the poem is standard in American grade school curricula?

Yes.

You're the first person I've met who isn't familiar with that poem. Congratulations. :rolleyes:

Robert Frost was never in my ciriculum lol sorry although im familiar with his name...Besides, i could care less about formal poetry (although freewrite i care about)--im into hiphop lyrics

'sleep is the cousin of death' is actually a proverb from congo...but i will add that nas is very literate and his album illmatic is one of the most seminal hip hop albums

In Greek and Roman mythology the goddess of dreams and the goddess of death were sisters.

Yeah, you fall into REM/slow-wave-sleep much faster because you have so much sleep pressure built up. Maybe more "efficiently" in terms of deep sleep:sleeping time ratio, but that's because your body is already so out of wack.

After you are sleep deprived your level of slow-wave sleep will increase. The theory is that slow-wave sleep is more restorative than REM sleep. Which makes sense because REM is very similar to being awake.

The best study out there suggests that we need about 8 1/2 hours of sleep with a fair amount of variability. The people who say we need less are either the very rare exeption or just wrong. There are actually a number of studies that compare people who are chronically partially sleep deprived (with as much as 6 hours pernight) who show that they are impaired just as much as people who are legally intoxicated. Furthermore there are epidemiological studies that suggust that people getting 6 hours of sleep have a signifigantly higher mortality than those who get 8. They die more! There are also correlative studies with obesity and a few other nasties.
With all things considered you can usually fake it with less sleep but youre mood/judgement/vigilence probobly sufferes. This stuff is most easily seen when being inactive. If you are nodding off while being on the highway for more than 20 mins or while watching tv youre in trouble. What a lot of people dont reaslise is that if you actually get enough sleep youre waking hours will be better hours and you may end up being more productive.

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: I agree completely!!! I probably sleep more than the average person but I am way more productive when I am awake! That is so completely true. There also is a huge amount of variability...women in my family require more sleep than average and I've just learned to deal with my need for more sleep over the years! Plus I'm much happier when I get enough sleep.

I was going to make some nice elloquent point, but I haven't slept well in a week, so here goes:

sleep. good. :D

not sleep. bad. :(

I was going to make some nice elloquent point, but I haven't slept well in a week, so here goes:

sleep. good. :D

not sleep. bad. :(

Haha, that just about sums it up for me. :p

neil gaiman would say that death is the older sister of dreams.
that's to say nothing of sleep, though.

Meth is great. Mmmmm, meth.

Wow! What a gathering of academically gifted brains currently being held in this thread and not one meaningful mention of the Psychopomps, Daemon, or Deities from the mythology of Classical Antiquity. And knowing that the correlation between Ancient Greek Mythology & Medicine is elementary knowledge... Each and every one of you should be ashamed.


In Ancient Greek Mythology the gods were born from earth, air, water, fire, and the void of space which was oftened referred to as the "Original State", the "Nothingness", and were personified under the handle of Xάος (i.e. Chaos/Khaos).


From the Nothingness came Gaia (The primordial personified goddess of the Earth), Tartarus (The abyss and/or dungeon of Hades), Eros (The personified god of sexual love), and lastly Nyx (The personified goddess of night), Erebus (The personified god of darkness). Who're lovers & the most important primordial deities to this thread.


From Nyx & Erebus came many Πρωτογενοι (i.e. Protogenos/Primevil Gods) and even more δαίμων (i.e. Daimones/Daemons) offspring. In fact there are so many that it would take far too long to list those who hold no relevant connection to the crux of the subject at hand. So with that being stated, the two most important offspring of Night & Darkness are θάνατος/Thanatos/Thanatus (The Daemon of Death & Mortality) and is his twin brother Ὕπνος/Hypnos (The Daemon of Sleep).


For the sake of accuracy in Ancient Greek Mythology, Thanatos is referred to as the psychopomp of "Peaceful Death". While his bloodthirty sisters Κῆρες/Keres are the psychopomps of violent death. Further more, it is hypothesized by some historians that Thanatos may have started as a specific psychopompos agent, conduit, or a specified characteristic of the Olympian God Hermes and was later distinguished as an individual being by Homor or Hesiod. This opinion is shared by a few colleagues inside my own professional field of research & study, which is Theology. (Though it should be stated that my emphasis is Theomatics, Theological Cryptography, Theological Linguistics, Gematria & Isopsephy.)


While Hypnos's connection inside the fields of Medicine & Psychology are obvious, the connections held by Thanatos are as follows...


Thanatology: The scientific study of death among human beings.


Thanatophoric Dysplasia: A severe inherited skeletal disorder characterized by extremely short limbs and folds of extra skin on the arms and legs.


The Thanatron (a.k.a The Death Machine): Was a device created by Dr. Jack Kevorkian to aid in the euthanasia of his patients.


Thanatophobia (a.k.a Necrophobia) the fear of things associated with or reminiscent of death and mortality, such as corpses or graveyards.


Sigmund Freud's "Death Drive" Theorum which Freud referred to as "Eros" is at times referred to as "Thanatos", but never by Freud himself.

wut

:laugh:

Methinks someone has been googling.

I thought this thread was dead. I guess it was just sleeping.

This thread, though amusing, is not directly related to the purpose of the Pre-allo Forum.

Now that it has been awakened from its long coma, it is time for it to start moving to a more appropriate forum.

It will now sleep walk to the All Students forum to join the rest of the philosophical threads.

:laugh:

Methinks someone has been googling.

I thought this thread was dead. I guess it was just sleeping.

Indeed!

I was tracking down a published article for a student on "Relative Connects Between Science & Mythology" when I stumbled upon this thread. And like all over-educated masters of trivia, I was unable to sustain from offering my two cents.

I apologize for bumping a dormant thread and as soon as I am able, I will reiterate my penitence by posting in recently created threads.