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jitkarie

12-08-2007, 02:52 PM

All right,

thanks, just wanted to hear it from someone else that Tuskegee is a CPE heaven.

Which country are you from, if you don't mind me asking.

jagjit

12-08-2007, 03:02 PM

well if its like that then plz tell the new candidates about ur toefl exam that will be more help ful than the spirit boosting mails ..... in addition u should give ur mail id so that they can reach u to learn more bout toefl.....that will be of great help to them so that they dont lose their money and precious time..like u did....in this way they will be better prepared after learning from ur mistakes....i hope u help them ... and can i ask u how old r u ?????? may be over 30 i guess from ur mails...an old wise friend wow..... that was a little rough but o.k i guess you didn't understood what i was saying, there was no complains here just making a point. i know things go step by step and i don't have a problem with that or any expectation so that is clear.
then about time consuming again it was not a complain, but as you said earlier we are not getting any younger or may be i'm just a little a bit old, so i think about other things like family and kids - but forget about it all.
in the end all i did is writing my point of view sharing part of my situation and that's it, belive me i know what i'm getting in to, and if i wanted the easy way i would take your advise,so thank you very much for that great advise, and for the support and of course for encouraging me to it and not give up.
thank you once again

jagjit

12-08-2007, 03:06 PM

well i m from beautiful .......developing...............progressive....... ..... friendly.............. WISE PEOPLE COUNTRY.....the country of YOGA VET:p All right,

thanks, just wanted to hear it from someone else that Tuskegee is a CPE heaven.

Which country are you from, if you don't mind me asking.

yogavet

12-08-2007, 04:22 PM

well i m from beautiful .......developing...............progressive....... ..... friendly.............. WISE PEOPLE COUNTRY.....the country of YOGA VET:p
beautiful ?? developing?? progressive?? friendly?? WISE PEOPLE COUNTRY???
where is that ??????
i don't know that country?
where are you from? may be we can all get to there? if we will be a accepted after all we are not all of us so friendly or beautifull.
hehehehe

jagjit

12-08-2007, 05:41 PM

it is ur country yoga vet..i can think of u having all these qualities so i want to know where u from?????i also will like to go there.....gud luck ..i know u very eagerly wait for my messages THANX..i hope u get something out of them positive.and inspiring

Ahmadvet

12-09-2007, 09:38 AM

hi every body:
i am recently finish my Bachelor degree in veterinary medicine and surgery from Jordan and i am would like to be veterinary surgeon board certify , if its possible for any body to help me and explain how to apply for Foreign vet. graduates ( i think its for 1 year) and what is the requirements

Thanks
Ahmad
Ahmad_vet@hotmail.com

dvmjakish

12-09-2007, 10:36 AM

Well dear friend. This is your first visit to this place I assume? I would love for the new vets to go ahead and read the whole 300 + posts. They have everything you need to know and the websites that would tell you what you should do and how to start. But just for a quick note. It doesn’t matter if you are just a vet or you have a PhD from whatever country, or whatever specialty.(minor exception for couple of schools in England)
You still have to do what every one is doing. Register, then, do TOEFL, BCSE, CPE and NAVLE. These steps are your way to be license in the states.
Now after you read these 300 + posts and visit the websites that listed I, and others, would be very happy to answer your questions.

hi every body:
i am recently finish my Bachelor degree in veterinary medicine and surgery from Jordan and i am would like to be veterinary surgeon board certify , if its possible for any body to help me and explain how to apply for Foreign vet. graduates ( i think its for 1 year) and what is the requirements

Thanks
Ahmad
Ahmad_vet@hotmail.com

dvmjakish

12-09-2007, 10:44 AM

jagjit , I like what you say ... :cool:

well if its like that then plz tell the new candidates about ur toefl exam that will be more help ful than the spirit boosting mails ..... in addition u should give ur mail id so that they can reach u to learn more bout toefl.....that will be of great help to them so that they dont lose their money and precious time..like u did....in this way they will be better prepared after learning from ur mistakes....i hope u help them ... and can i ask u how old r u ?????? may be over 30 i guess from ur mails...an old wise friend

jagjit

12-09-2007, 01:03 PM

u will be a american vet after few months and u know well what we have to go through...some people just dont get it...and just want to be on top without starting from bottom and they fall down then they blame the system ....i m lucky to have colleagues like u who handles things in a systematic way
thanx:thumbup:

cocker

12-09-2007, 02:30 PM

Hi Meavet.
Thank you for your information about BCSE. I hope you will pass it for the first time!
Also,I want to thank you for your advice about IELTS because i have done it. I fell so happy now.
Good luck,
cocker

Just took BCSE yesterday for the first time
mostly questions were simple enough as the name BCSE but It's doesn't easy though!!!!!
For everyone who are going to take this exam, lecture notes are extreamly important. A lot of questions related to clinical year
Quite a lot of x-ray to read, also 5-6 questions about artifact(x-ray and ultrasound)
try to go over basic equine stuff like denal, ageing,lameness some important infectious diseases and perfornance related syndrome.
Concentrate in small animal, make sure you know how to read CBC, blood chemistry, fecal exam, surgery also important.
~30% of Bovine questions
~10% of swine, avian and another spp.
Don't waste your time reading text books for information in detail, the exam is basic thing we've learn and practice in clinical year(for me it has been 3 years since graduated:o )
If you need more info please email me I don't want our forum to be banded :eek:
meaw-ny@hotmail.com

cocker

12-09-2007, 02:40 PM

To everyone who has trouble with passing TOEFL:

Guys, I think some people might have problems with speaking section in TOEFL as I had and others with listening section in IELTS; writing and reading are of the same level - in my opinion. So, none of these exams is simple. But I strongly recommend you to give it a shot to IELTS if you repeatedly were in troubles with TOEFL because of speaking score. The interview with an instructor seemed to be much easier than being recorded on tape and evaluated by an ,,anonymous" person later.
Don't hesitate to send me an e-mail with questions about my IELTS experience: cocker94@gmail.com.
Cheers!

jitkarie

12-09-2007, 05:22 PM

Hi Ahmad,

you don't have to be enrolled in any foreign veterin. program. You can become a board certified surgeon within the university. And for that the school will arrange the visa for you.

Surgical residency is hard to get in, though. And so is ophtalmology. You will need to have a rot. small animal medicine and surgery internship and maybe even surgical internship, unless you have some connections:)

If you don't you should enroll to VIRMP (just put in google search VIRMP veterinary), but you have already missed this year.

But if you decide to work outside the university you will have to go through the ECFVG or PAVE anyway. Depends what you want.

J.

Sol9

12-11-2007, 09:13 AM

Hi,
I had the same question about those materials. I tried to contact them and ask more about it. They told me that all the information was online. I read their webside, but the they only have posted some samples (like 4 pages). I have herd that these information is to old... and they don't update it.
So, my recomendation is not to buy it.
The A-Z is a good source, but is only the basic things you need to read more (mosby, merck book or online) and 45 days prior to the test take the preptest (excelent!!).
Before the pretest, I recomend to study at least 5 month all the theory.

Hi everybody, I just graduated from vet school in mexico and I plan to take the NAVLE sometime next year and I would like some advice over which study guides to use. I've researched some like the Mosby's and Merck but they seem pretty dull making difficult to really follow them, how is
the vet prep, any better? how about the vcrc, is it really worth the money??
Please help :confused:

Sol9

12-11-2007, 09:36 AM

I will have CPE next year but in september. I am in the same doubts. I have received the book they send to you. I was planning to make a resume with the topics they ask and then practice some weeks. Do you have any plan?.
I have found that in Canada there is a program focus on the CPE but is really expensive!!!

Hi Everyone,

I have my CPE exam at Mississippi State in Feb and wanted to know how it is? Do they stress on special topics? Just anything that can help me I'm kind of lost now.
Thanks

Karim2006

12-11-2007, 07:05 PM

Hi! What did you mean about pretest? did you mean vetprep? because I m not familiar with the pretest, if you can tell me more about it , Thanks.

Hi,
I had the same question about those materials. I tried to contact them and ask more about it. They told me that all the information was online. I read their webside, but the they only have posted some samples (like 4 pages). I have herd that these information is to old... and they don't update it.
So, my recomendation is not to buy it.
The A-Z is a good source, but is only the basic things you need to read more (mosby, merck book or online) and 45 days prior to the test take the preptest (excelent!!).
Before the pretest, I recomend to study at least 5 month all the theory.

puyol

12-12-2007, 12:30 PM

thank you for your reply
i appreciate it

jitkarie

12-19-2007, 01:25 PM

QUESTION FOR JAGJIT

Hello Jagi,
wanted to ask you about the dissection. Did you do it in dorsal recumbency or in lateral? Or doesn't matter to them in Tuske?
Thx. Jiti.

jagjit

12-19-2007, 03:06 PM

well thatz a good question ...everyone has diff. style of doing it......in horse left side up ...all other right side up.....cut at axillery area reflect both front and hind limbs...then place animal in dorsal position.....cut thoracic cavity with rib cutter....reach upto tongue ...cut frenulum....pull whole thing out along with heart and lungs.....collect all samples related to diff areas in formalin.....histopath viro bacterio toxi parasito etc....they will give u list of samples to be collected....examine carcass first and then cut...check for everything like hemorrhage, pale color arrea, consistency of stomachn contents...cut open all intestines examine them but do not scrape them ...thatz all ,...they dont want u to be pefect but just know how to open carcass...take samples etc. also taking out brain from skull for rabies....know all the valves of heart and direction of blood flow from where to where.....thatz it.....I JUST DID NECROPSY ON A FROG AND A PARROT TODAY IT WAS FUN..LOT OF PEOPLE KEEP EXOTIC PETS IN MY AREA....

jagjit

12-19-2007, 03:10 PM

i wonder where is SPIRIT OF FOREIGN GRADUATE SECTION THE "YOGA VET" ....I DIDNT READ ANY MORE SPIRIT BOOSTING MAILS FROM THE YOGA CAT.....WE MISS U YOGAAAAAAAA/// WHERE R U ????????:hardy:

jitkarie

12-19-2007, 08:14 PM

Thx Jagi,

I was also wondering what has happened to everybody! They all have dissappeared recently!

So anyway, did the frog get poisoned by the dog's slobber or do people in your area hold parrot-frog fights?

dvmjakish

12-30-2007, 09:54 AM

The last three days I have been going with large animal doctors “equine and bovine” out to the field in preparation for the CPE. One of the doctors that I have met has done the CPE 6 years ago. He told me that they don’t expect much of you regarding the food animals section and the equine section.
Anyways, I went to a two different dairy farms 800 and 1300 cows, the doctor checked for pregnancy and ovaries condition about 400 cows in the first one and 500 in the second, and I was behind him, I was listening what he is telling the farmer then I go and check it. After I did 40 he send me ahead of him and then asked me what I think, I was right 99%... but then after 20 of these My hand has arm was so tired I couldn’t do any more and had to take a break.I was laos helping him give hormones injections and vaccination to almost every cow depending on her case.. we saw several cases of pyometra . also we checked two cows for LDA but it was not the case..
We did the same thing in the other farm. I have to warn you this is as filthy as it gets. The smell will stick in your nose for couple of days…
I also went with equine vet and saw couple of cases of lameness (did the flexing test) and one of ataxia due to peripheral vestibular disease. it was very good to know how to check equine for Neurologic signs.. like blind fold the horse, and cross his feet and see if he correct fast, it’s similar to knuckling test in dogs. Also we did teeth float and de-worm.
It was very good three days to start with. I will be going again every Wednesday and maybe some Saturdays
I felt that this very good experience and every one really should consider doing some rounds.
Search for a near hospital around you and send them a resume with objective of doing externship with large animal vets..
I will update you in the future if there is any thing interesting or important to all.

doudchy

01-04-2008, 01:46 PM

jitkarie

01-04-2008, 02:19 PM

Nice clinical cases at:

http://www.cvmbs.colostate.edu/clinsci/wing/emcases/emcase.htm

http://www.martindalecenter.com/Vet_5_Clinical.html

dvmjakish

01-06-2008, 10:21 AM

hi my name is dalia and i'm in enroll for the ECFVG program and i'm living now in pennsylvania...in a small town so i dont have any way to get the books so if anyone can help me and get it to me online i'm be really thankful .another Q do i have to study allthe 64 book???thanx .bye

First, welcome the forum but what you said is very confusing . What are talking about? what books that you can't get and who told you that there is 64 books you need to read?
also can you tell us if you have pass any of the exams yet.
please read this posts starting with the first page . there are a lot of information that is very helpful.
thanks.

jitkarie

01-06-2008, 05:23 PM

If you mean that list of books for NAVLE that is on AVMA site, then the answer is NO, you don't have to read it.
But there is a list of topics for each species. So look ar it and then study from the books you are familiar with and those you know that are good.
If you don't have any books there is complete and free MERCK veterinary manual on-line (search from google). Also you can get books on amazon.com
There are vcrc courses for NAVLE (go thru google again).
And there are lots of web sites you can get the info from. Get the list of diagnoses from AVMA site and then go question by question.
Don't worry, you will figure it out, everybody was all confused at the beginning.

meavet

01-07-2008, 09:38 AM

hi everyone
I would like some thought about VCRC , do you think it worth money for NAVLE?
or who would like to sell it second hand also welcome:)
thanks you all

Emergency Tech

01-08-2008, 05:06 PM

dvmjakish

01-09-2008, 04:04 PM

Hello every one ....

This is really a nice site for sharing thoughts and information.. i was reading almost the 7 pages which i found that they were very helpfull...

I just have a comment did anyone notice that the BCSE exam is almost the same as NAVLE but a little on the easy side and only 250 question not 360.

so this mean that the one can use the same materials and books for both test and if i wasn't wrong .. and if the one passes the BCSE it is better to take the NAVLE before applying for the CPE ...

i am currently enrolled in the ECFVG programe and passed my BCSE exam :) while i was working in a small animal emergency hospital as a tech :sleep:.

i took the NAVLE one time before the AVMA add the BCSE and i wasn't lucky i missed like 4 points on the passing score:mad:

Hi.
I have the same situation you have, work in a clinic and did the BCSE also failed my first NAVLE with one point:eek:.
Yes doing the NAVLE after the BCSE is good Idea.
And Yes I did study the same amterials but I was on the easy part when it came to BCSE.
I did the NAVLE again and I'm waiting for the results any day now.
Good luck and hope that we can help you here.

dvmjakish

01-09-2008, 04:07 PM

hi everyone
I would like some thought about VCRC , do you think it worth money for NAVLE?
or who would like to sell it second hand also welcome:)
thanks you all

I have not seen the VCRC but I can tell you that you can pass without them. Although I was waiting for my results before I repply to you. But I'm sure I will this time.
please refere to my previous threads if you would like to know what did I use to study for Navle.

ariel1234

01-17-2008, 01:04 PM

Hello DVMJAKISH, I would like to ask you how come you can be enrolled for CPE if you haven't completed NAVLE yet?
Is it possible?

gigivet

01-19-2008, 06:54 PM

Hello DVMJAKISH, I would like to ask you how come you can be enrolled for CPE if you haven't completed NAVLE yet?
Is it possible?

The NAVLE exam is no longer a requirement for ECFVG. Once you are approved in the BCSE you are eligible to take CPE.
You don't have to pass NAVLE before taking CPE, however you have to take NAVLE at some point because NAVLE is a requirement of the state board. (2 separeted things).

KingTut

01-20-2008, 09:47 AM

THIS IS A SERIOUS QUESTION, PLZ ONLY SERIOUS ANSWERS AND I DONT NEED BELITTLING......

While i was in the u.s. i made a few mistakes which caused me to obtain several felonies and a stint in prison (about a year) including a deportation upon my release.....heres my question....If i ever enter the ecfvg program, and pass my exam, ill have to get examed outside of egypt for the navle and cpe (so that means i have to obtain a visa) will any govt accredited to administer the exam issue me a visa? And if i ever do get the visa, would a vet. hospital employe me or would i be viewed as a danger to society and labeled an ex-con? This issue is gonna arise sooner or later, so i would like some answers that would help me, i wouldnt want to waste my time.....thanx

peace to the world.....
king tut

dvmjakish

01-21-2008, 03:35 PM

Hello DVMJAKISH, I would like to ask you how come you can be enrolled for CPE if you haven't completed NAVLE yet?
Is it possible?

the rules has changed. now you can finish step #2 . the BSCE then you can do NAVLE or CPE first.
I recomend doing the NAVLE first.

cpevet

01-22-2008, 11:27 AM

KingTut

01-22-2008, 11:36 AM

certainly u will have problems here as ur record isnt good so employment opportunities are less...not only ur record but also if u are a drug addict then u r in deep mess...because drug testing is done before hiring.....so better stay in egypt king tut...:thumbup:..... [

im totally not a drug addict....yeah, i thought of that too, even if im a changed man it wouldnt matter? noone will give me the time of day? :(

vetjeon

01-23-2008, 02:43 AM

Hi~

I am a korean veterinarian.
I am wondering wether I can work as a veterinary technician in philadelphia, PA without thch. license.

Please let me know....:)

Thank you~

dvmjakish

01-23-2008, 10:37 AM

Hi~

I am a korean veterinarian.
I am wondering wether I can work as a veterinary technician in philadelphia, PA without thch. license.

Please let me know....:)

Thank you~

you can not work as a technician, you need a license for that. BUT you can work as assistant. they are the same except for minor things that you are not allowed to do. also they pay less for assistant.
you should start with whtever you can and then get the tecnician license. it's easy one exam (computer 200 questions) and then another open book exam.

meavet

01-24-2008, 10:54 PM

Hi~

I am a korean veterinarian.
I am wondering wether I can work as a veterinary technician in philadelphia, PA without thch. license.

Please let me know....:)

Thank you~
Are you OH HAN TEAK???

brascanvet

01-29-2008, 02:40 PM

:hardy:Hi every one I just would like to thank you all for all information posted here all 7 pages I will not post a question today as I found almost every thing I need on previous postings. Just to say soon intend to take BCSE :scared:as I have IELTS and want to use before expire as you all know they are valid for 2 years only... so heads on books links sites and all your suggestions

thanks to all :love:

vet1998

01-30-2008, 04:37 PM

dvmjakish

01-30-2008, 09:57 PM

Hi everyone
I have a question for you, concerning preparation for CPE, I heard about a program called VSTEP in Canada, I would like to know if anyone knows if this program is really helpful for CPE preparation.
If anybody has an expereince with this program, Please let me know if this program is good and worth the money to prepare and pass CPE
Thank you so much
Sincerely,
vet1998

I know it cost 20,000 $ plus the cost of living. it's a whole year long.
It's better if you work in a vet hospital as assistant and learn for free with earning money. If the hospital is small animals then you can do externship at a large animal hospital in your days off or on saturday. trust me it's enough time.

dvmjakish

01-31-2008, 06:55 PM

NAVLE Results are in.. I PASSED......:clap:...

yogavet

01-31-2008, 11:05 PM

NAVLE Results are in.. I PASSED......:clap:...
congratulations :)
all the best

gigivet

02-02-2008, 12:08 AM

NAVLE Results are in.. I PASSED......:clap:...

UHUUUU!!!!! Congratulations man!! You deserve it!!! One step left!!

I am about to take BCSE.

Well, good look and keep up the good work!

urvetcanada

02-04-2008, 02:45 PM

Sol9

02-04-2008, 05:55 PM

As far as I know, you can't take the CPE(step 4) without passing the steps 1,2 and 3. Here is the web with all the rules: http://www.avma.org/education/ecfvg/default.asp

Sol9

02-04-2008, 06:01 PM

If you live in Florida you could go to Nova University. They have great classes (group or private). You could either take toefl or ielts classes. They also sell books.

dvmjakish

02-04-2008, 08:36 PM

congratulations :) , but can u tell me how much was your scores, i got mine but i fail :(, they sent to me my scores and dont know how did they collecte them iam sure i was good at the test , but i got very low scores i cannt believe it . when i collecte the scores, i get a different total number than what they sent to me :confused: , iam so confused, do u have any idea about that.

thank u
Sorry to hear that, You will do fine next time. you know this is my second time too, so I know how you feel.
MY scores are 456. or 72 of 99.
The way they come up with the scores is very complecated and they do not tell us how. there are questions that has more scores than others...

K94EVER

02-06-2008, 09:45 AM

Hi guys,
long time no read.
Does anyone have the CPE in Oklahoma, April 1-4?
Did anyone already take the CPE in Oklahoma and is willing to share some information?
By the way, those of you preparing for the CPE might want to check out the following webpage:

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/CPE-GROUP/

You have to apply and be admitted by the moderators.
Good luck!

cocker

02-06-2008, 12:19 PM

Congratulation on your BIG NAVLE SUCCESS! Enjoy it!

Farzin

02-11-2008, 11:30 PM

NAVLE Results are in.. I PASSED......:clap:...

Hey man, I am so happy to hear that and congratulation and hope you pass next step without any problems and be a American Veterinarian soon and we pride of you.

You mention to Meawet,you wanna tell or give some material about BCSE after passing NAVLE (You said these 2exams are alike),then I would really appreciate to help me about it. I am so nervous and confused which books are good.As an example some days I read Merck and some days do Mosby's test and some days read lecture materials:( and I am gonna be ready for May exam for BCSE) and your information will help me a lots.
Again happy for your passing:).
Cheers,
Farzin.

dvmjakish

02-12-2008, 09:39 AM

Hey man, I am so happy to hear that and congratulation and hope you pass next step without any problems and be a American Veterinarian soon and we pride of you.

You mention to Meawet,you wanna tell or give some material about BCSE after passing NAVLE (You said these 2exams are alike),then I would really appreciate to help me about it. I am so nervous and confused which books are good.As an example some days I read Merck and some days do Mosby's test and some days read lecture materials:( and I am gonna be ready for May exam for BCSE) and your information will help me a lots.
Again happy for your passing:).
Cheers,
Farzin.

There is a series of books called the national veterinary medical series. These books has been written practically for the NAVLE.
So you can cover almost everything except anesthesia.

The things that I read from Merck were about the diagnosis of the infectious diseases, FIV, FeLV, Rabies,,,, like if you get a positive FIV test in a 2 months old kitten , then what? Is he/ she really infected …
Also I read more about lameness in large animals and large animal surgery (FL UN videos are great for this part). Oh, and the hematology section from Merck too..

My story with The BCSE was, that I had studied for the NAVLE before the BCSE so it was very easy for me to pass it.
I basicly went over all the things that I read before really quickly not too much detailed.
There is a book that you can depend on of the BCSE though it has 80 % of what you need to know, it’s called ” Moby’s comprehensive review for veterinary technician” Amazon it.

some materials online…
http://www.upei.ca/~vetrad/lectures.htm (http://www.upei.ca/~vetrad/lectures.htm)
This will tell you everything about how to read an x-ray .. the one that every one love , thoracic radiology

So what I think you really should read is the national veterinary medical series . only because you have 4 more months, so when you are ready for NAVLE you will feel more comfortable reading the same books.

If you want quick fix and just worry about BCSE then concentrate on "Moby’s comprehensive review for veterinary technician". and read extra about very common diseases..

Farzin

02-12-2008, 11:21 AM

There is a series of books called the national veterinary medical series. These books has been written practically for the NAVLE.
So you can cover almost everything except anesthesia.

The things that I read from Merck were about the diagnosis of the infectious diseases, FIV, FeLV, Rabies,,,, like if you get a positive FIV test in a 2 months old kitten , then what? Is he/ she really infected …
Also I read more about lameness in large animals and large animal surgery (FL UN videos are great for this part). Oh, and the hematology section from Merck too..

My story with The BCSE was, that I had studied for the NAVLE before the BCSE so it was very easy for me to pass it.
I basicly went over all the things that I read before really quickly not too much detailed.
There is a book that you can depend on of the BCSE though it has 80 % of what you need to know, it’s called ” Moby’s comprehensive review for veterinary technician” Amazon it.

some materials online…
http://www.upei.ca/~vetrad/lectures.htm (http://www.upei.ca/~vetrad/lectures.htm)
This will tell you everything about how to read an x-ray .. the one that every one love , thoracic radiology

the BCSE hs a 10 % of questions as photos.. or x-rays.. the photos in Merck are great.

So what I think you really should read is the national veterinary medical series . only because you have 4 more months, so when you are ready for NAVLE you will feel more comfortable reading the same books.

If you want quick fix and just worry about BCSE then FL UN videos on "Moby’s comprehensive review for veterinary technician". and read extra about very common diseases..
Thank you so much for your advices:).Could you please tell me what is FL UN videos? and how can I find it? As you know I really need some good materoials for lameness.
I do appreciate about all.

Cheers,
Farzin

dvmjakish

02-12-2008, 10:01 PM

Thank you so much for your advices:).Could you please tell me what is FL UN videos? and how can I find it? As you know I really need some good materoials for lameness.
I do appreciate about all.

Cheers,
Farzin

this is the link for the vedios.
http://www.vetmed.ufl.edu/FORVET/NAVLE/index.asp
if it ask for password let me know.. once you check it you will find out your self. they are very good videos of luctures made for thr NAVLE , also great for BCSE. and they are free. these videos are must see..

Farzin

02-12-2008, 10:14 PM

this is the link for the vedios.
http://www.vetmed.ufl.edu/FORVET/NAVLE/index.asp
if it ask for password let me know.. once you check it you will find out your self. they are very good videos of luctures made for thr NAVLE , also great for BCSE. and they are free. these videos are must see..
Hey DVMjakish,
Unfortunately need password and username and don't know about these:( and I think,I can just able to see small animal neurology with these password & username.
If you need my Email, is farzin_rd@yahoo.ca . Thanks again for your help.

DAVMD

02-13-2008, 10:02 AM

Hi Everybody,
I just recently find out about this wonderful network and want to take a moment to thank everyone who gives us(foreing graduate vets) any guidance for study materials and courses. I am veterinarian from Europe. I had my own practice of large animals over there. Now I am working in private small animal practice and getting ready for BCSE in order to get my licence to practice vet medicine in US.
I am glad to be here and I can not wait to share anything with anybody, and to learn something that I, obviously, do not know(failed NAVLE april, 2007).
Sincerely,
DAVMD :)

susu1234

02-14-2008, 07:04 AM

Hey DVMjakish,
Unfortunately need password and username and don't know about these:( and I think,I can just able to see small animal neurology with these password & username.
If you need my Email, is farzin_rd@yahoo.ca . Thanks again for your help.

http://www.vetvideos.com/

hey, check this site, the link was here in the past on the forum, you can watch there the same files of university of florida and much more for free with no need for passward, g'd luck mate ;)

WittyB

02-14-2008, 04:22 PM

Hello, I'm here helping my wife through her ECFVG process. It's been grueling, but any students who have graduated from Kafkas University in Kars, Turkey have a lot less work than we had. There is an insane amount of work (plus political foot-rubbing) to get a college accredited by the AVMA. But, it's done.

I've been reading through this, and trying to correlate books to Amazon.com, but I'm trying to find out exactly how many books are in the "National Medical Veterinary Series"

This forum has been great, I hope it stays around for a long time to come.

By the way, any Vet Hopefuls in the greater Philadelphia Area? We live up north in Quakertown, and would be interested to meet and talk to someone going through the process. We're just getting started ourselves.

veti

02-15-2008, 08:03 AM

first of all you should know that in NY it is enough to do the NAVLE to work, and you don't have to complete the whole program.
Maybe also in Ohio
google NY state veterinary license and you will see the info.
second of all- the uni of Florida has a program for teaching 2 the NAVLE. when I was studying I also went to the US uni's websites. some of them have the courses material online and you can just read those
good luck

jitkarie

02-16-2008, 06:54 PM

Hi Veti, sorry to spoil your excitement (since I fell down on the foor as well as you:), but in NY you have to have the certification of finishing ECFVG. Not just enrollment. I am in FL which is much less strict and I thought the same as you tat NAVLE is ennough to get a licence. But unfortunately it's not true.

lizivet

02-17-2008, 05:50 PM

lizivet

02-17-2008, 05:53 PM

downside is that u get a 3 year license and in order to get a permanent one u need to get a green card, which is the tricky part. I have a working visa, but after 2 years I still did not get the green card

jitkarie

02-19-2008, 01:00 PM

To Lizivet

Hi Lizivet, I looked there and all I see is this:

Graduates of unaccredited veterinary medicine programs must present evidence of acceptable clinical education .....

residency ...
certification by the Educational Commission for Foreign Veterinary Graduates. (Verification of any such certification should be forwarded by the AVMA to the Department.); or ....Says Certification from ECFVG.
Do I understand it wrong? Do you know anything about Florida if NAVLE is enough? Since I wish it was possible. But I have CPE in May so I will survive by then, hopefully, as a technician
Tnx, J.

K94EVER

02-19-2008, 03:13 PM

Hi,
I also applied for a license in New York a couple of months ago, with just passing the NAVLE, and got a whole list of things back that were missing for the license. Among others were "proof of clinical education" like a residency or clinical year in an accredited Vet school (which I don't have) OR ECFVG certification (which I will only get after passing the CPE). So in the end it doesn't seem to be so easy to get the license... Maybe you guys were more lucky? Or is there a trick, something I missed?
Thanks for any input I can get.

To Lizivet

Hi Lizivet, I looked there and all I see is this:

Graduates of unaccredited veterinary medicine programs must present evidence of acceptable clinical education .....

residency ...
certification by the Educational Commission for Foreign Veterinary Graduates. (Verification of any such certification should be forwarded by the AVMA to the Department.); or ....Says Certification from ECFVG.
Do I understand it wrong? Do you know anything about Florida if NAVLE is enough? Since I wish it was possible. But I have CPE in May so I will survive by then, hopefully, as a technician
Tnx, J.

jitkarie

02-20-2008, 06:25 PM

Hi K9,
that's what has happened to me in FL!:)
Got the whole list of missing things.
But you have CPE in April, no? So you have to survive only 2 more months.
Good luck at CPE!!!!
J

WittyB

02-20-2008, 10:04 PM

You will be happy to know that Veti is right and you are wrong. I got my NY state license 2 years ago with doing only the NAVLE...! And I know that they did not change the rules since my best friend who just graduated outside of the US got her license 7 months ago, with the NAVLE only.
After reading your reply to Veti I went back to the NY website and I am thrilled to tell you that you are wrong. Check it out in this link:
http://www.op.nysed.gov/vetlic.htm
Could I please have a little more verification on the NY Licensing issue? Perhaps, Lizivet, there was something that you had done in the past that satisfied the clinical requirements for the NY state license. It looks like this isn't really a viable alternative, and if it were, it would only be valid if you lived in the state.

jitkarie

02-22-2008, 10:17 PM

Hi guys, I have found:

Nice step-by-step videos from Cornell for neropsy technique!!

http://www.vet.cornell.edu/bovine/default.aspx

Enjoy:hardy:

J.

WittyB

02-25-2008, 06:09 PM

dvmjakish

02-25-2008, 08:37 PM

Are there any folks here who have participated in the BCSE Exam? I'd like to know good study guides, besides the 70-odd books that they have listed on the test website. It appears that the Mosby Technican handbook seems informative, but there has to be more.

Thanks!
you should get the national veterinary medical series they are good for both BCSE and NAVLE. they are the reason I passed both, although they are not enough 100% for the Navle but I got 90% of total what I have read from them.

dvmjakish

02-25-2008, 08:39 PM

Hi guys, I have found:

Nice step-by-step videos from Cornell for neropsy technique!!

http://www.vet.cornell.edu/bovine/default.aspx

Enjoy:hardy:

J.

Thanks for the link. I'm sure it will help in the CPE. I just wish they have one for dogs too. because that what we will be working on.

Janim

02-26-2008, 07:27 AM

Hello,

I will be travelling to Kuwait within the next 2 months on work. Currently, I am not a student, but I do wish to study simultaneously through my work period in Kuwait. I am very interested in Veterinary Physiotherapy and I have been given to understand that I would need to specialize in Human Physiotherapy first.

I doubt though that Kuwait has educational institutions in relation to the above, but the internet shows Dubai as one of the places in the Middle East where such a study is possible.

Does anyone know if online study is available in this field? Who could I speak with in Kuwait / Dubai that could advise me on how to go about this study? I have absolutely no idea on costs, specializations, study material, etc. and need to talk to someone who can give me good brief on what I should do.

Thank you!

Janim

02-26-2008, 07:29 AM

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Janim

02-27-2008, 07:25 AM

Hello,

I will be travelling to Kuwait within the next 2 months on work. Currently, I am not a student, but I do wish to study simultaneously through my work period in Kuwait. I am very interested in Veterinary Physiotherapy and I have been given to understand that I would need to specialize in Human Physiotherapy first.

I doubt though that Kuwait has educational institutions in relation to the above, but the internet shows Dubai as one of the places in the Middle East where such a study is possible.

Does anyone know if online study is available in this field? Who could I speak with in Kuwait / Dubai that could advise me on how to go about this study? I have absolutely no idea on costs, specializations, etc. and need to talk to someone who can give me good brief on what I should do.

Thank you!

Janim

02-27-2008, 07:29 AM

Hi, I'm sorry for the message being sent twice. Was attempting to copy and paste the same message in another thread and accidentally resent it in the same one. Pardon me!

rsa09

02-27-2008, 08:28 AM

Hi guys. I am taking the CPE test in january and would like some information about SOAP veterinary Notes. Subjective Objective Acessment Plan.
Thanks

hi Gustavo,
I passed the QA test:) and interested to know regarding the VCSA ..how did u do the exam? how did u prepare for it?
thanks.

vetjeon

02-27-2008, 06:20 PM

hi Gustavo,
I passed the QA test:) and interested to know regarding the VCSA ..how did u do the exam? how did u prepare for it?
thanks.

Hi~ rsa09,

Congratulation!!
but...I did not pass the QE test....:(

Could you tell me about books that you use to study for reparing the QE.
Specially, I really want to know what parasitology book is better...

Thank in advance all your help...

Gustavo Brasil

03-01-2008, 01:14 PM

hi Gustavo,
I passed the QA test:) and interested to know regarding the VCSA ..how did u do the exam? how did u prepare for it?
thanks.
Not good news. I didnt pass the VCSA. So I have to take it again, which I dont know when it is going to be. Right now, I am trying to get ready for the NAVLE in april.
gustavo

hpoo

03-01-2008, 02:37 PM

I'm in the same situation, I studyed hard and failed last Dec (navle) try zukureview.com and vetprep.
If you are interested: richyvet@hotmail.com
hi richyvet
i am new veterinarian, and i`ve moved states 6 months ago.i want to go through pave program, but i really don`t know what to read.
i `ve heard about student`s notes that they are really usefull.
i just want to know if you have them ,or know how i can get them
if you are interested:homeyrahere@yahoo.com

hpoo

03-01-2008, 02:46 PM

hpoo

03-01-2008, 02:59 PM

:)hi dvmjakish
i am a new member,thanks for your guidance. i`ve moved here recently. i went to the link that you mentioned , but it wasn`t free.
if you interested to give me a hand;homeyrahere@yahoo.com:luck:

hpoo

03-01-2008, 03:28 PM

There is a series of books called the national veterinary medical series. These books has been written practically for the NAVLE.
So you can cover almost everything except anesthesia.

The things that I read from Merck were about the diagnosis of the infectious diseases, FIV, FeLV, Rabies,,,, like if you get a positive FIV test in a 2 months old kitten , then what? Is he/ she really infected …
Also I read more about lameness in large animals and large animal surgery (FL UN videos are great for this part). Oh, and the hematology section from Merck too..

My story with The BCSE was, that I had studied for the NAVLE before the BCSE so it was very easy for me to pass it.
I basicly went over all the things that I read before really quickly not too much detailed.
There is a book that you can depend on of the BCSE though it has 80 % of what you need to know, it’s called ” Moby’s comprehensive review for veterinary technician” Amazon it.

some materials online…
http://www.upei.ca/~vetrad/lectures.htm (http://www.upei.ca/~vetrad/lectures.htm)
This will tell you everything about how to read an x-ray .. the one that every one love , thoracic radiology

the BCSE hs a 10 % of questions as photos.. or x-rays.. the photos in Merck are great.

So what I think you really should read is the national veterinary medical series . only because you have 4 more months, so when you are ready for NAVLE you will feel more comfortable reading the same books.

If you want quick fix and just worry about BCSE then concentrate on "Moby’s comprehensive review for veterinary technician". and read extra about very common diseases..
u passed!congradulation:clap:
cheers

dvmjakish

03-02-2008, 08:30 AM

ruffo

03-02-2008, 03:55 PM

for dvmjakish Hi, my name is Angela? I am very glad the people like you are still around the world. I was reading trough out the forum.To me you seen very interesting in helping everybody. thanks for all your advices and I will pray for you to do well in the day off your test.

Farzin

03-03-2008, 11:51 AM

hi farzin
i am preparing for next year, but i`ve not registered in any of pave or ecfvg program.i`ve moved here only 6 months ago , and i am still pretty confused. i need some organize information and notes.i am looking for students notes.do u have any idea?
if you are interested to touch;homeyrahere@yahoo.com
I just check the forum now,then sorry to answer your questions late:),
I am not familar with PAVE,but know about ECFVG.First of all you should get your Toefl or other English languages and after that you can be ready to take BCSE. It's about Basic and Clinical materials.Most of materials are about students notes about Anatomy & Parasitology& Toxicology & Pathology and Medicine and also Surgery,Anesthesia.I think, this exam need just some general information,not details.The best advise about BCSE and NAVLE, is DVMJakish's advise that he mentioned in #352 (same page) and exactly depond your time and plane.As he said if you have more than 5 months, it's better you'll start NVMS books and don't waste your time with 10000 of other refrences,but about me is different and I don't have time (just 2 months) and I can read my university's notes.
Hope you find your way and be ready for exam.
Cheers,
Farzin.

dvmjakish

03-03-2008, 07:57 PM

hpoo

03-04-2008, 06:36 AM

I just check the forum now,then sorry to answer your questions late:),
I am not familar with PAVE,but know about ECFVG.First of all you should get your Toefl or other English languages and after that you can be ready to take BCSE. It's about Basic and Clinical materials.Most of materials are about students notes about Anatomy & Parasitology& Toxicology & Pathology and Medicine and also Surgery,Anesthesia.I think, this exam need just some general information,not details.The best advise about BCSE and NAVLE, is DVMJakish's advise that he mentioned in #352 (same page) and exactly depond your time and plane.As he said if you have more than 5 months, it's better you'll start NVMS books and don't waste your time with 10000 of other refrences,but about me is different and I don't have time (just 2 months) and I can read my university's notes.
Hope you find your way and be ready for exam.
Cheers,
Farzin.
thanks for your advice,i am interested for pave more because they still accept the one year rotation
i wish u best for your test
i `ve started nvms canine anatomy last week,but my big problem is toefl/ielts

hpoo

03-04-2008, 06:46 AM

does anybody have info about how to get usa student`s notes?

dvmjakish

03-04-2008, 07:37 AM

These videos for everybody ... videos for many diffrent procedures .. good for CPE .. ENJOY

(vt2242) Scrabbing, Gowning and Gloving
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=4490794931 311867191&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4490794931311867191&hl=en)

(vt2245) Preparation and Drapping of the Canine Surgical Patient
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=2382367585 890298112&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2382367585890298112&hl=en)

(vt2261) Bone Marrow Aspiration Biopsy
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=4953415127 475383802&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4953415127475383802&hl=en)

(vt2262) Cerebrospinal Fluid Collection
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=2943261546 584954734&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2943261546584954734&hl=en)

(vt2263) Arthrocentesis
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-354350113 5922235388&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3543501135922235388&hl=en)

(vt2264) Urogenital Techniques
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-175555572 7542969161&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1755555727542969161&hl=en)

(vt2265) Tracheal Wash
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=4530645161 387886234&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4530645161387886234&hl=en)

(vt2266) Physical Examination
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-649852772 6437870781&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6498527726437870781&hl=en)

(vt2267) Intravenous Catheter Placement
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-681376800 3129239324&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6813768003129239324&hl=en)

(vt2268) Aspiration Biopsy
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-683904409 9477140674&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6839044099477140674&hl=en)

(vt2269) Blood Sample Collection
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=7300703519 205566471&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7300703519205566471&hl=en)

(vt2270) Chest Tube Placement
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=7751135571 340200388&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7751135571340200388&hl=en)

(vt2271) Restraint of the Dog and Cat
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-831498803 5011729331&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8314988035011729331&hl=en)

(vt2272) Thoracocentesis - Abdominocentesis
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-747098425 508229890&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-747098425508229890&hl=en)

(vt2273) Medication Administration
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-690875024 611206587&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-690875024611206587&hl=en)

(vt2274a) Tail tying
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-335665491 3389880021&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3356654913389880021&hl=en)

(vt2274b) Intramuscular Injections
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-337900030 4809943715&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3379000304809943715&hl=en)

(vt2274c) Subcutaneous Injections
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-813124358 9817334533&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8131243589817334533&hl=en)

(vt2274d) Epidural Anesthesia
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=1931187717 457343937&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1931187717457343937&hl=en)

(vt2274e) Tail Vein Blood Collection and Injection
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-876697190 7276110685&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8766971907276110685&hl=en)

(vt2274f) Jugular vein Blood Collection and Injection
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=5179220614 784488271&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5179220614784488271&hl=en)

(vt2274g) Restraining D
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-676121704 8822203559&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6761217048822203559&hl=en)

(vt2274h) Restraining C
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=8512037042 653473796&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8512037042653473796&hl=en)

(vt2274i) Restraining B
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-172502694 2547112254&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1725026942547112254&hl=en)

(vt2274j) Restraining
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=2526123288 783033228&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2526123288783033228&hl=en)

(vt2274k) Placing a Catheter for Urine Sample Collection
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=2526123288 783033228&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2526123288783033228&hl=en)

(vt2274l) Urine Sample Collection
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=2965268262 150259000&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2965268262150259000&hl=en)

(vt2274m) Milking and Mastitis Testing
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=8893477052 680239982&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8893477052680239982&hl=en)

(vt2274n) Oral Techniques: Balling Gun
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-470665547 1103807428&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4706655471103807428&hl=en)

(vt2274o) Oral Techniques: Dose Syringe
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-101731505 1233171825&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1017315051233171825&hl=en)

(vt2274p) Oral Techniques: Examination
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=6414456918 256435222&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6414456918256435222&hl=en)

(vt2274q) Oral Techniques: Passing a Stomach Tube
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-568870134 4067775389&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5688701344067775389&hl=en)

(vt2274r) Oral Techniques: Passing a Nasal Tube
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-473779443 3186086118&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4737794433186086118&hl=en)

(vt2353) Fundamental Surgical Technique of Ventral Midline Abdominal Approaches
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=2393994830 837013034&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2393994830837013034&hl=en)

(vt2359) Canine Ovariohysterectomy
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-600102023 1616842861&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6001020231616842861&hl=en)

(vt2371) Techniques of Suture Pattern Placement
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=8839639116 937686724&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8839639116937686724&hl=en)

(vt2379) Canine Castration
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-172746043 6995453140&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1727460436995453140&hl=en)

(vt2382) Closure of Common Skin Defects
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-296870658 2643646759&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2968706582643646759&hl=en)

(vt2383) Use and Care of Stomach Tubes for Dogs and Cats
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=1262932678 368896855&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1262932678368896855&hl=en)

(vt2408r) Hand and Instrument Knot Tying
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-356231024 9360542139&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3562310249360542139&hl=en)

(vt2431) Basic Hemostatic Technique
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=2382273731 435877913&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2382273731435877913&hl=en)

(vt2433) Basic Suturing Technique
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=4204125196 632082669&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4204125196632082669&hl=en)

(vt2462) Vessel Isolation Technique for Ligation
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-278723195 9398582475&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2787231959398582475&hl=en)

(vt2463) Hollow Organ Repair
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=5411751985 066832927&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5411751985066832927&hl=en)

(vt2466) Lateral Ear Resection of the Dog
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=1402559870 499257299&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1402559870499257299&hl=en)

(vt2498) Burried Continuous Intradermal Suture Pattern Placement
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-203938732 3082112980&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2039387323082112980&hl=en)

(vt2578) Rabbit Ovariohysterectomy
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=5953436041 779809619&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5953436041779809619&hl=en)

(vt2583) Surgical Gloving Techniques
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=8840753626 367623910&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8840753626367623910&hl=en)

(vt2594) Techniques to begin and end continuous suture patterns
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-243908109 5231654891&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2439081095231654891&hl=en)

(vt2600a) Bones and Deep Structures - Part A
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=3965765159 619109070&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3965765159619109070&hl=en)

(vt2600b) Bones and Deep Structures - Part B
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=4453867078 913684395&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4453867078913684395&hl=en)

(vt2600c) Bones and Deep Structures - Part C
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-151609487 037221612&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-151609487037221612&hl=en)

(vt2601) Equine Thoracic Limb
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=7742883613 355143098&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7742883613355143098&hl=en)

(vt2602a) Muscles of the Equine Limb - Part A
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=7425991718 584926798&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7425991718584926798&hl=en)

(vt2602b) Muscles of the Equine Limb - Part B
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-804302244 2162666256&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8043022442162666256&hl=en)

(vt2602c) Muscles of the Equine Limb - Part C
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-245049347 9092295209&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2450493479092295209&hl=en)

(vt2606) Otoscopy
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=1217406477 566676501&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1217406477566676501&hl=en)

forcepsb
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-340342787 9941835183 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3403427879941835183)

forceps
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-607675452 1493893736 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6076754521493893736)

Sutture pattern (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8518328799345192540)
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=8518328799 345192540 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8518328799345192540)

Suture pattern2 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5874648681364651333)
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-587464868 1364651333 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5874648681364651333)

bleeder (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6960463303140401497)
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-696046330 3140401497 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6960463303140401497)

needleho (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6292011879790302774)
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-629201187 9790302774 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6292011879790302774)

lembert (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4543969047577991210)
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=4543969047 577991210 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4543969047577991210)

lembert2 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2443577732556771494)
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-244357773 2556771494 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2443577732556771494)

scissors (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3537588462748812732)
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-353758846 2748812732 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3537588462748812732)

scalpel (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5031671177379526308)
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-503167117 7379526308 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5031671177379526308)

Anesthesia orientation (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6593924606096931079)
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=6593924606 096931079 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6593924606096931079)

subcut (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7927347987590744589)
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=7927347987 590744589 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7927347987590744589)

simcont (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1756892059908015760)
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=1756892059 908015760 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1756892059908015760)

512k47 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2151984178529356135)
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-215198417 8529356135 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2151984178529356135)

Femoral Head and neck Ostectomy - Cranial Approach
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-159650485 6513657753 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1596504856513657753)

Exploration of the Stifle joint and Removal of a medail Meniscus
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-146823815 8436285215 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1468238158436285215)

Opening/Closing an Abdomen - Abdominal Exploratory
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-760479333 5673265162 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7604793335673265162)

Intramedullary pinning and external fixation for an oblique femur fracture
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=6562453810 517806439 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6562453810517806439)

Intestial Resection and Anastomosis
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=4257036499 315243594 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4257036499315243594)

Feline Ovariohysterectomy
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-687566289 7265401347 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6875662897265401347)

Feline Castration
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=8543171434 58501067 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=854317143458501067)

Canine Ovariohysterecomy
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-639493160 7597971180 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6394931607597971180)

Canine Castration - Closed Technique
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=8030420111 959471100 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8030420111959471100)

Clip and Prep - Abdominal Surgical Procedure
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-270972050 8836818945 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2709720508836818945)

Preparation of the Surgical Team
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=8598138760 851436752 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8598138760851436752)

Knot Tying
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=1440161667 394754430 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1440161667394754430)

Aseptic Technique - Stressing the Fundamentals
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=7046213055 768659288 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7046213055768659288)

************ ********* *******

FLORIDA LECTURES

Foreign Animal Diseases
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-899817291 0140233037 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8998172910140233037)

Public Health
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-687644900 9808892245 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6876449009808892245)

Exotics
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-720107482 5286031994 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7201074825286031994)

Poultry Diseases
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-477483314 1154024955 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4774833141154024955)

Swine Diseases
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-802673919 4679506207 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8026739194679506207)

Ophthalmoloy
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-513376715 1552388721 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5133767151552388721)

Dermatology
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-261461871 6230298191 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2614618716230298191)

Radiology
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=2893584117 489029999 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2893584117489029999)

Oncology
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=7633544538 436411663 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7633544538436411663)

Small Animal Neurology
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-153507957 1928241895 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1535079571928241895)

Small Animal Cardiology
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-472473303 6868033503 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4724733036868033503)

Feline Infectious Diseases
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=4480711752 817795256 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4480711752817795256)

Vaccination Protocols for Canine Infectious Disases
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=6954640576 762987469 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6954640576762987469)

Dog, Cat and Equine Reproduction
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-555641244 1059706543 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5556412441059706543)

Small Animal Surgery
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-916329430 7859401471 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9163294307859401471)

Small Animal Endocrinology
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-683364587 2227174336 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6833645872227174336)

Anesthesia
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=8406301410 035245616 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8406301410035245616)

Equine Medicine
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=7368813273 555581253 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7368813273555581253)

Bovine Reproduction
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-749641071 2690037238 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7496410712690037238)

Food Animal Medicine
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=7948895296 180317427 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7948895296180317427)

Veterinary Hematology
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=6406954005 508318564 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6406954005508318564)

Toxicology
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=6694363275 40168533 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=669436327540168533)

Pharmacology
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=8761074791 872013170 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8761074791872013170)

Immunology
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-365925680 624026339 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-365925680624026339)

Pathology
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-491081199 4534474594 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4910811994534474594)

Parasitology
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=4787856112 046128477 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4787856112046128477)

Bacteriology
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-421739120 7171120684 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4217391207171120684)

************ ********* *******

Student Surgery Laboratory
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-542178215 7597084048 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5421782157597084048)

http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=1634657542 290245830 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1634657542290245830)

http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-163797778 001264197 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-163797778001264197)

http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-180198232 2539264303 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1801982322539264303)

http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=6723493903 018435195 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6723493903018435195)

Chest_tube_placemen t
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-710585966 0871478432 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7105859660871478432)

Castration_and_ Declawing_ of_cat
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-273903817 8875517861 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2739038178875517861)

Cardiopulmonary_ resuscitation
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=8803689033 466964284 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8803689033466964284)

Caesarean_section
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-543278148 355518888 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-543278148355518888)

Anesthetic_protocol
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=7957140837 274505769 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7957140837274505769)

Intubation
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-555303318 4967545060 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5553033184967545060)

pulmonary_radiograp hy
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=-590784851 6802189156 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5907848516802189156)

Abdominal_radiology _3
http://video. google.com/ videoplay? docid=2177160575 871693401 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2177160575871693401)

jitkarie

03-04-2008, 09:09 PM

Hi guys,
if any of you are going to do the CPE in Tuskegee, I have heard that they have lots of goats there all the time so prepare for the goats. They have sheep there only rarely.

urvetcanada

03-05-2008, 12:24 PM

thank u dvmjakish, these vedios r very usefull , u'v been the most helpfull person in this forum, thanx again and wish u the best.

Stefan Viziru

03-06-2008, 05:04 AM

Hi all, I am a new member and I would like to congratulate you all for working toward your professional recognition. Together we can win! We are all in the same situation, working hard and studying at the same time. But we can win, many other people were in the same situation and took the exams

1. For the beginning, did anyone use "Hemogram interpretation in dogs and cats?" Did you find it useful? It is about 80 pages (with a lot of pictures, not too much text), half of the book is on CBC interpretation (clinical cases).

2. I would suggest sharing materials (including links, thanks dvmjakish & all). I have several materials, including VCRC books and mosby SCANNED and I was just wondering if other people would be interested in sharing books, e.g. 5-min VetConsult or NVMS.

3. As to Merk,personally I don't think it is a good option since it focuses too much on details.I can be used as a reference book though..

hpoo

03-06-2008, 05:58 AM

hpoo

03-06-2008, 06:04 AM

hi Gustavo,
I passed the QA test:) and interested to know regarding the VCSA ..how did u do the exam? how did u prepare for it?
thanks.
hi rsa06
congradulation :clap:
i am preparing for qe for pave in next year.can u give me some advice about exam?what did u study?how hard was?
thanks
cheers
homeyrahere@yahoo.com

dvmjakish

03-06-2008, 02:52 PM

thank u dvmjakish, these vedios r very usefull , u'v been the most helpfull person in this forum, thanx again and wish u the best.

You are welcome.

I really recmoend to download and save the videos that you like on your computer. sometimes these links get changed or even deleted.

Stefan Viziru

03-08-2008, 02:13 AM

foreignvetdocto

03-08-2008, 07:36 PM

dvmjakish

03-09-2008, 10:11 AM

hi, i'm a veterinary doctor from morocco, i will come next month to usa with
J1 visa with the section 212E ( two years home country residence rule) to
do an internship for one year in a dairy farm in wisconsin.

My goal is to stay in usa after the end of my program and to be legal
so what will be the best and the easier to me to do :
To work like a veterinary assistant and apply for a waiver( J1 waiver)?
or to find another intership in the unuversity and apply for j1 program
extension ?

Do you have any idea ?

Thank you.

I think your best chance is Work visa. H1B visa. this is a two year visa, and can be extended every two years up to three times. You can also apply for immigration and get green card as a worker. you just have to find the right place to work where your employer likes you so much that he would help you get green card from employment.

foreignvetdocto

03-09-2008, 07:22 PM

I think your best chance is Work visa. H1B visa. this is a two year visa, and can be extended every two years up to three times. You can also apply for immigration and get green card as a worker. you just have to find the right place to work where your employer likes you so much that he would help you get green card from employment.

thank you for your advice, i know that for having a J1 waiver, the solution will be to find the right employer that will help me to have it, so i need chance :)

Look please at http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/info/info_1288.html (http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/info/info_1288.html)
and give me your opinion

thank you

hpoo

03-09-2008, 07:55 PM

Hi Hpo,

I have VCRC scanned and I am interested to share it for that anatomy book- do you have it scanned? It could also be useful for you, once you scan it you can take it on your laptop wherever you go

by the way, do you have other books, e.g. 5-min veterinary consult?
i am really interested, but i don`t know how to scan it?do u want tell me how to scan it?it`s 600 pages:confused:

hpoo

03-09-2008, 07:58 PM

Hi Hpo,

I have VCRC scanned and I am interested to share it for that anatomy book- do you have it scanned? It could also be useful for you, once you scan it you can take it on your laptop wherever you go

by the way, do you have other books, e.g. 5-min veterinary consult?
i don`t have 5 min , but in hospital that i use to work they had.so i can scan it ,too.if i know how to scan that kind of big books

DAVMD

03-09-2008, 08:12 PM

dvmjakish

03-10-2008, 09:54 AM

:) Congratualation to all of you who passed NAVLE or BSCE. Unfortunatelly I have not passed NAVLE, so now I am facing BCSE. If anybody could share what the BCSE is like and what kind of questions are on that exam. I would appreciate greatfully any sugestions...Thanks much!!!:)

Dera DAVMD,
you can also go back and read the posts in this fourm , I my self have posted couple of times regarding my BCSE experience.. good luck

dvmjakish

03-10-2008, 09:59 AM

i don`t have 5 min , but in hospital that i use to work they had.so i can scan it ,too.if i know how to scan that kind of big books

I think this will be impossible mission to scan 600 pages it's illegal and also very time consuming. it's worth the money to spend. Remember that you are going to be a vet in US and you will eventually need these kinds of books in the future. I recommend this book instead (http://cote.clinicalvetadvisor.com/ (http://cote.clinicalvetadvisor.com/))

Stefan Viziru

03-11-2008, 11:41 AM

oh, sorry, I did not realize it is such a big book:( 600 pages is quite a lot..

mahit002

03-11-2008, 09:28 PM

Moonpaw

03-11-2008, 10:25 PM

dvmjakish

03-11-2008, 10:56 PM

hello foreign grads

I wonder why is it so difficult for many to get the NAVLE prep manual or CPE guide. Coz I know in other fields, you can get most of the test prep manuals in book stores or libraries. I am also having a problem in getting the manual. One more thing........what if someone out there build a website (ofcourse not for free)for all foreign grads, for many of the fields that need licensing, to guide us through all the process and provide us the materials needed for the tests.....BIG RELIEF!!!!!!!!!

Please those of you who passed the test (both written and/or clinical) help the others (including me) to get access to the manuals and study strategies.

Thanks,

Actually,the website already there. it's http://www.avma.org/education/ecfvg/default.asp#steps
this should answer all your questions about how to become a vet in the US. also they will e happy to answer your quesions.
If you read the 9 pages of posts here you also find a lot of questions that has been answered.
after that I and others will be happy to answer anything that might still be confusing.
NAVLE don't have a manual but there is a website also that give you smale questions some are free and some are paid for. the one you pay for they will give you a results that will reflect howgood you are and show you your weak points. here are the websites.
https://apps.nbme.org/navlesa/welcome.jsp
http://www.nbvme.org/?id=23&page=Sample+Questions

as fars CPE manual the will send it to you when you pay for the CPE. You will not need it before that. also they change it all the time, I have two so far. I think you just concentrate on the current exam you will be doing and don't worry about future once.
there is no right way to study , everone does it diffrentley . and every one use diffrent books and materials. you need to know everything and concentrate on the common stuff. in my earlier posts I have mentioned what books I have used to pass BCSE and NAVLE. this doesn't mean that I'm the right way...
hope this help.

dvmjakish

03-11-2008, 11:01 PM

Hi all,
I've tried looking for the answer to my question, but so far no luck. I'm about to graduate with a bachelor's in Biology in the US, and I might go to RVC for vet school. However, I do plan on coming back to the US. Does anyone know if there is any "bias" against foreign veterinary graduates, the way there is against foreign medical graduates? Also, since RVC is accredited by the AVMA, will I have to take any extra exams upon returning to the US, or will what I've done in the UK be sufficient?

simply, e-mail the ECFVG at
Educational Commission for Foreign Veterinary Graduates® ECFVG Important Contacts ECFVG E-mail

ECFVG@avma.org (ECFVG@avma.org)
ECFVG COORDINATOR

Mary Barbosa
Phone: 847-925-8070 (livecall:847-925-8070) (Toll-Free: 800-248-2862), ext 6623
Fax: 847-925-9329 (livecall:847-925-9329) or 847-925-1329 (livecall:847-925-1329)
ECFVG ADDRESS

American Veterinary Medical Association
ATTN: ECFVG
1931 N. Meacham Road, Suite 100
Schaumburg, IL 60173-4360
(Suite number must be included on all correspondence)
TESTING COORDINATOR

Ben Curran
Phone: 847-925-8070 (livecall:847-925-8070) (Toll-Free: 800-248-2862), ext 6682
Fax: 847-925-9329 (livecall:847-925-9329) or 847-925-1329 (livecall:847-925-1329)

they will answer you question.
there is a list of vet school on the web that are credited by AVMA,
http://www.avma.org/education/ecfvg/ecfvg12.pdf
in the end of the file they will tell you if you will need to do the ECFVG .
regardless where you will study. you will have to pass the NAVLE even if you graduated from the USA.

Moonpaw

03-11-2008, 11:45 PM

Thank you!

Stefan Viziru

03-12-2008, 08:33 AM

dvmjakish

03-12-2008, 02:56 PM

Thanks dvmjakish

Guys, I have a few questions I'm m striving to find answers. I hope someone here knows the answers (maybe dvmjakish?)

1) BCSE, unlike NAVLE, does not mention the % for each species so that students know on what to focus more.
For NAVLE for example it was 50% small animals, 25% horses if I am not wrong, etc.

As far as I can remember the BCSE has the smae amount of % questionas the NAVLE. the exam was 220 Questions about 25 of them photos, mostly x-rays ...

2) NAVLE had a more intelligent approach. i.e provided a list of topics, while BCSE does not. This is not very helpful.

Should we still rely on the list of topics from Navle? (at least for pathology)

Study for the BCSE as you are doing the NAVLE. trust me you will pass. and the NAVLE will be smooth.

3) It is unclear how much the passing score is (or maybe they didn't decide yet, is a kind of percentile rank??)

they never send you a score. they send me a letter says. PASS. So I will think it's also similar to the NAVLE. I did very well on the BCSE I think I would get 90% easily so I can't help you with this one, If I wasn't sure I will pass and I did then I can tell you that it might be 70%... so to be safe paln on answering 165 question correctly out of the 220. I think there is 20 questions that are for future testes that they don't count just like the NAVLE has 60 of them.

Once these questions addressed, BCSE may prove be easier that the last navle. What they do is to increase over time the degree of difficulty, which means we should take bcse as soon as possible. Correct?

I Hope this help. ............................

jitkarie

03-12-2008, 02:59 PM

I have it in my computer, if you let me know how to attach it here I can send it to you guys here.

RSBRAZIL

03-12-2008, 07:17 PM

dvmjakish

03-12-2008, 10:04 PM

Hi dvmjakish (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/member.php?u=143428), i'm glad has someone like you to help us. I do have a question, you like the "national veterinary medical series" , so i was looking on amazon.com and i got a list of books. Could you please check and see if that's all.
1.Small Animal Internal Medicine (National Veterinary Medical Series) (http://www.amazon.com/Internal-Medicine-National-Veterinary-Medical/dp/0683076701/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205370250&sr=8-1) by Darcy H., DVM, MVSc Shaw and Sherri L., DVM, MVSc Ihle (Paperback - May 8, 1996)

2.Large Animal Internal Medicine (National Veterinary Medical Series) (http://www.amazon.com/Internal-Medicine-National-Veterinary-Medical/dp/0683180339/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205370250&sr=8-2) by Timothy Ogilvie, John R. Pringle, Sherri L., DVM, MVSc Ihle, and Jeanne Lofstedt (Paperback - Mar 13, 1998)3. Small Animal Surgery (The National Veterinary Medical Series for Independent Study) (http://www.amazon.com/Surgery-National-Veterinary-Medical-Independent/dp/0683039105/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205370250&sr=8-3) by Joseph Harari (Paperback - Jan 1996)4.Small Animal Internal Medicine: Case Management Test Booklet (National Veterinary Medical Series) (http://www.amazon.com/Small-Animal-Internal-Medicine-Management/dp/0683303481/ref=pd_bbs_sr_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205370250&sr=8-4) by Darcy H., DVM, MVSc Shaw and Sherri L., DVM, MVSc Ihle (Paperback - Jan 15, 1997)5.Functional Anatomy and Physiology of Domestic Animals (http://www.amazon.com/Functional-Anatomy-Physiology-Domestic-Animals/dp/0781743338/ref=pd_bbs_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205370250&sr=8-5) by William O Reece (Paperback - April 1, 2004)6.Pharmacology (http://www.amazon.com/Pharmacology-Franklin-Ahrens/dp/0683000853/ref=pd_bbs_sr_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205370250&sr=8-6) by Franklin A. Ahrens (Paperback - Jan 15, 1996)7.Diseases of Cage and Aviary Birds (National Veterinary Medical Series) (http://www.amazon.com/Diseases-Aviary-National-Veterinary-Medical/dp/0683073826/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205370250&sr=8-7) by Walter J., Jr. Rosskopf and Richard W. Woerpel (Hardcover - Jan 15, 1996)

8.Intraoperative Neuroprotection (The National veterinary medical series for independent study) (http://www.amazon.com/Intraoperative-Neuroprotection-National-veterinary-independent/dp/0683002287/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205370250&sr=8-8) by Russell J. Andrews (Hardcover - April 1996)

9.Physiology of Domestic Animals (National Veterinary Medical Series) (http://www.amazon.com/Physiology-Domestic-Animals-National-Veterinary/dp/0683072404/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205370250&sr=8-9) by William O. Reece (Paperback - Jan 15, 1997)

10.
Nvms Canine Anatomy (http://www.amazon.com/Nvms-Canine-Anatomy-Bonnie-Smith/dp/0683300806/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205370250&sr=8-16) by Bonnie J. Smith (Paperback - April 15, 1999) - Illustrated
11.Cytology and Microscopic Anatomy (http://www.amazon.com/Cytology-Microscopic-Anatomy-Horst-Dieter-Dellmann/dp/0683014676/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205370996&sr=8-17) by Horst-Dieter Dellmann and Jeanine R., Ph.D. Carithers (Paperback - Jan 15, 1996
Thank you so much!

Yes , Although the only one that I got are these:
1-Large Animal Internal Medicine (http://www.amazon.com/Internal-Medicine-National-Veterinary-Medical/dp/0683180339/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205370250&sr=8-2)
2-Small Animal Internal Medicine (http://www.amazon.com/Internal-Medicine-National-Veterinary-Medical/dp/0683076701/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205370250&sr=8-1)
3-Pharmacology (http://www.amazon.com/Pharmacology-Franklin-Ahrens/dp/0683000853/ref=pd_bbs_sr_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205370250&sr=8-6)
4-Small Animal Surgery (http://www.amazon.com/Surgery-National-Veterinary-Medical-Independent/dp/0683039105/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205370250&sr=8-3)
I have used other recourses for Avian, and exotic. The Florida Un videos are great for these sections.
the exotics concentrate on the video and write everything down. Also if you read the exotics in Merck really quick you might get some additional info.

You guys should spend most of your times reading small animals and equine, bovine, then ovine caprine, . pigs ,, I hate pigs..

I have mentioned earlier. When it comes to common viral diseases, like FIV, FelV, .... CDV,.... you need to read them from Merck or other good book. The national series is not good enough for these diseases.

As far as anesthesia, I have mastered this part from doing it for living. I have collected tons of material over the years and made my own paper scraps. but any anesthesia book out there is good . you will need it for future reference so buy one now.
Best book ever is the Small Animal Surgery (http://www.amazon.com/Surgery-National-Veterinary-Medical-Independent/dp/0683039105/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205370250&sr=8-3). This is really all what you need to read for this section. its great and no need to read any more for surgery in small animals.

Study the internal cavities are important to know your way around especially in horses and cows.

Please read as much as you can and concentrate on most common diseases, you will get weird questions and only few will know them.

If you can read the Merck, do it. Get a highlighter and mark the good stuff, so when you read again only read the marked stuff, this will help you save a lot of time when you do the NAVLE or when you read for second time.

I know everyone study in different way, so do whatever you used to, this is not good time to change and try new ways to study.
Try to understand and make sure things make sense this way you will remember it. Memorizing is not going to help you unless you have hard drive in your head. I know some people do.
Make a schedule for your self try to read everything twice if you can, and keep the last day before the exam empty. Sleep in , go out side and see a movie , just have fun and don’t think about the exam. Sleep very well the night before and don’t read anything in the morning.

Last, DO NOT FREAK OUT ,I know easy to say hard to do.. but I have to say it. I am freaking out for the CPE, but this one is different .. 6000$, plus 1500$ for other stuff, and people are watching everything you do…

yogavet

03-12-2008, 10:38 PM

wow ..... DVMJAKISH, you are something special.
thank you so much for all this info. this site really needs you.
you help alot and thanks again
wish you all the luck in the world.
take care

Stefan Viziru

03-13-2008, 04:21 AM

Tks dvmjakish :)

gigivet

03-13-2008, 09:43 AM

The percentages on BCSE are about this:
-Medicine (etiology, diagnosis and treatmentof disease and dentistry) - 25%
-Principles of surgery and antesthesia - 19%
-Diagnostics (techiniques and imaging) - 14%
-Pharmacology, physiology and toxicology - 14%
-Pathology - 13%
-Anatomy - 11%
-Preventive medicine - 10%

I just took BCSE and I was pretty confortable answering all the questions. What I can say about studying is like dvmjakish said: everyone has to find the way of studing that works for you. I used a variety of sources. What I suggest is first start on making a plan of study and follow it.
-Florida's lectures are pretty good, take notes about them, BUT do not rely just on what they talk about, they give a very very brief overview of SOME of the diseases, go further with large animals. The large animal internal medicine from the nacional veterinary medical series is really good and if you follow it, you will pretty much cover everything. But be aware that the book is from 1997 and the dianostic session is not accurate any more, so follow diagnostic procedures in Merck or somewhere else. And also, some of the "newer" diseases are not there, for example West Nile Dz. Keep in mind the common diseases (as dvmjakish suggested)
-Do not think that if you study superficially you will pass. You won't! So make sure that you know in depth every single common disease.
-I am totally small animal, so I didn't go over much of small animal. Study more the things you know the least.
-I studied a little bit of everything: even histology, physio, ... and what amazed me was the fact that even though there were just few questions about those topics on BCSE, it helped me relearn everything again and this was awesome even to answer clinic questions. It help you to think linearly and succeed in all qustions. That's because I think the big problem, at least in my country, is that we do not focus much on learning the basic subjects in vet school as they do here. And also as dvmjakish said: we all are vets and the more you know, the better you are. It is for our on good! So buy books and keep them coz they will help you in the future.
-In summary, I used nacional series for large animal medicine + merck for diagnosis, florida lectures, my own books, anesthesia I used the Oklahoma lectures, they are awesome: http://instruction.cvhs.okstate.edu/vmed5412/ (http://instruction.cvhs.okstate.edu/vmed5412/) and the most important thing I did: I took notes of EVERYTHING and read those notes days after the test.

As you all know, we are not allowed to share specific questions, so here is my experience. I hope this help some of you and thanks for all of you that are sharing your experiences as well.
I will be happy to help anyone that still have any question about BCSE.

bridgi

03-13-2008, 11:53 AM

dvmjakish

03-13-2008, 07:10 PM

Hi everybody,
I'm the mother of a graduating vet in Germany. I live Texas as a permanent resident-soon to be citizen. I applied for a family sponsered visa for my daughter (2.5 y ago), but it will take some more years. She wants to come "as soon as possible".
I'm helping her with that and came across this forum. I read it with great interest and gathered a lot of information. I still have some questions and hope some of you can answer me:

1. is it possible to get a working visa for a Vet Technician job (H-1b ?)?

yes. Try animal sanctuaries and shelters . she can work for them as a technician even though she is a vet , this way she is doing something the american vets will not do . this is how thing work usually with H1B visa. they pay less but they would help to get the Visa. the visa will cost around 1500 without attorney. it is good Idea to use one.

2. does anyone know how the chances are to get an internship thru the matching program?

This i don't know..

3. If you don't pass the ECFVG or PAVE do you have to pay the whole fee ($ 6000) again for the next try or how does that work?

First fee is only 1000$, this is just for registration. then you pay for the English exam . which is 150$ or so then the BCSE, I think it was 170$ , then the NAVLE around $450. then the CPE 6000$ . if you don't pass any exam then you have to pay again to do it.
Except the CPE . this is 6 sections exam if you pass 3 of 6 then you only pay 1250$ for each section you fail and you have to do it within a year. if you fail 4 or more out of 6 then you have to do it all over again and pay 6000 $. for more info visit this website.
http://www.avma.org/education/ecfvg/default.asp#steps

thank you
a desparate vet mon :o
(hoping for a soon re-union with my only child)

I hope this help..........

RSBRAZIL

03-14-2008, 12:42 AM

Thank you so much, you are a great help. i hope you stay in touch with us after you get your license. good luck!

RSBRAZIL

03-14-2008, 12:46 AM

dvmjakish Thank you so much, you are a great help. i hope you stay in touch with us after you get your license. good luck!

bridgi

03-14-2008, 11:50 AM

I hope this help..........
thank you so much,dvmjakish, this is a great help.
About the internship, she will have to try and find out.
I will keep on reading this forum and get my daughter to do the same once she's over with her finals (she has to focus on that right now)
thanks again

bridgi

Sol9

03-18-2008, 01:34 PM

hi, i'm a veterinary doctor from morocco, i will come next month to usa with
J1 visa with the section 212E ( two years home country residence rule) to
do an internship for one year in a dairy farm in wisconsin.

My goal is to stay in usa after the end of my program and to be legal
so what will be the best and the easier to me to do :
To work like a veterinary assistant and apply for a waiver( J1 waiver)?
or to find another intership in the unuversity and apply for j1 program
extension ?

Do you have any idea ?

Thank you.

Hi,
I read that you are going to do an internship in dairy farm. If you want to study something else, then it will be a good idea to apply for another J1 (I think you only can apply 7 years for this type of visa then you need to change to an H1b or green card). But if you are not planning to study anything else I will recomend to apply for a waiver (take like 6 month to do all the paper work). You need to find the waiver before you finish you internship.

Sol9

03-18-2008, 01:36 PM

These videos for everybody ... videos for many diffrent procedures .. good for CPE .. ENJOY

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