I was just wondering what the going pay rate for an intensivist was? And if it depends on which track you take to get there? thanks

I just saw an openning for Critical care surgeon offering 275-300 K

Here's a website which gives salaries for different specialties, including critical care. It's based on physician response survey's and is a little old--data from 2003.

The salary can also vary on primary specialty based on your ability to supplement your salary with extra billable procedures... Pulmonologists doing Bronch's, Surgeons doing Bronch's, Trach's, Pegs, possibly even taking Trauma or GSurg call in addition to SICU time.

http://www.allied-physicians.com/salary_surveys/physician-salaries.htm

SPECIALTY Years 1-2 >3 Max
Allergy/ Immunology $158,000 $221,000 $487,000
Ambulatory $ 80,000 $112,000 $152,000
Anesthesiology: Pediatrics $ 283,000 $311,000 $378,000
Anesthesiology: General $207,000 $275,000 $448,000
Anesthesiology: Pain Management $315,000 $370,000 $651,000
Cardiology: Invasive $258,000 $395,000 $647,000
Cardiology: Interventional $290,000 $468,000 $811,000
Cardiology: Noninvasive $268,000 $403,000 $599,000
Critical Care $187,000 $215,000 $320,000
Dermatology $ 195,000 $308,000 $452,000
Emergency Medicine $192,000 $216,000 $295,000
Endocrinology $171,000 $187,000 $260,000
FP (with OB) $182,000 $204,000 $241,000
FP (w/o OB) $161,000 $135,000 $239,000
FP - Sports Medicine $ 152,000 $208,000 $363,000
FP - Urgent Care $ 128,000 $198,000 $299,000
Gastroenterology $265,000 $349,000 $590,000
Hematology/Oncology $181,348 $245,000 $685,000
Infectious Disease $154,000 $178,000 $271,000
Internal Medicine $154,000 $176,000 $238,000
IM (Hospitalist) $161,000 $172,000 $245,000
Medicine/Pediatrics $139,000 $168,000 $271,000
Medical Oncology $198,000 $257,000 $455,000
Neonatal Medicine $286,000 $310,000 $381,000
Nephrology $191,000 $269,000 $447,000
Neurology $180,000 $228,000 $345,000
Obstetrics/Gynecology $211,000 $261,000 $417,000
Gynecology $159,000 $213,000 $358,000
Maternal/Fetal Medicine $286,000 $322,000 $610,000
Occupational Medicine $139,000 $185,000 $290,000
Ophthalmology $138,000 $314,000 $511,000
Ophthalmology Retina $280,000 $469,000 $716,000
Orthopedic Surgery $256,000 $342,000 $670,000
ORS - Foot & Ankle $228,000 $392,000 $791,000
ORS - Hand & Upper Extremities $288,000 $459,000 $770,000
ORS - Hip & Joint Replacement $330,000 $491,000 $715,000
ORS - Spine Surgery $398,000 $670,000 $1,352,000
ORS - Sports Medicine $266,000 $479,000 $762,000
Otorhinolaryngology $194,000 $311,000 $516,000
Pathology $169,000 $321,000 $610,000
Pediatrics $135,000 $175,000 $271,000
Pediatrics - Cardiology $145,000 $282,000 $607,000
Pediatrics - Critical Care $196,000 $259,000 $398,000
Pediatrics - Hematology/Oncology $182,000 $217,000 $251,000
Pediatrics - Neurology $175,000 $189,000 $362,000
Physiatry $169,000 $244,000 $313,000
Podiatry $128,000 $168,000 $292,000
Psychiatry $149,000 $169,000 $238,000
Psychiatry - Child and Adolescent $158,000 $189,000 $265,000
Pulmonary Medicine + Critical Care $215,000 $288,000 $417,000
Radiation Oncology $241,000 $385,000 $787,000
Radiology $201,000 $354,000 $911,000
Rheumatology $179,000 $229,000 $378,000
Surgery - General $226,000 $291,000 $520,000
Surgery - Cardiovascular $336,000 $515,000 $811,000
Surgery - Neurological $354,000 $541,000 $936,000
Surgery - Plastic $237,000 $412,000 $820,000
Surgery - Vascular $270,000 $329,000 $525,000
Urology $261,000 $358,000 $619,000





SOURCE: Allied Physicians, Inc., Los Angeles Times and Rand McNally

*Updated June, 2006

Thanks

Things that pay enough
Things I would consider doing
Things I would really consider doing

SPECIALTY Years 1-2 >3 Max
ORS - Spine Surgery $398,000 $670,000 $1,352,000
Surgery - Neurological $354,000 $541,000 $936,000
Radiology $201,000 $354,000 $911,000
Surgery - Plastic $237,000 $412,000 $820,000
Surgery - Cardiovascular $336,000 $515,000 $811,000
Cardiology: Interventional $290,000 $468,000 $811,000
ORS - Foot & Ankle $228,000 $392,000 $791,000
Radiation Oncology $241,000 $385,000 $787,000
ORS - Hand & Upper Extremities $288,000 $459,000 $770,000
ORS - Sports Medicine $266,000 $479,000 $762,000
Ophthalmology Retina $280,000 $469,000 $716,000
ORS - Hip & Joint Replacement $330,000 $491,000 $715,000
Hematology/Oncology $181,348 $245,000 $685,000
Orthopedic Surgery $256,000 $342,000 $670,000
Cardiology: Invasive $258,000 $395,000 $647,000
Anesthesiology: Pain Management $315,000 $370,000 $651,000
Urology $261,000 $358,000 $619,000
Pathology $169,000 $321,000 $610,000
Pediatrics - Cardiology $145,000 $282,000 $607,000
Cardiology: Noninvasive $268,000 $403,000 $599,000
Gastroenterology $265,000 $349,000 $590,000
Surgery - Vascular $270,000 $329,000 $525,000
Surgery - General $226,000 $291,000 $520,000
Otorhinolaryngology $194,000 $311,000 $516,000
Ophthalmology $138,000 $314,000 $511,000
Medical Oncology $198,000 $257,000 $455,000
Dermatology $ 195,000 $308,000 $452,000
Anesthesiology: General $207,000 $275,000 $448,000
Nephrology $191,000 $269,000 $447,000
Pulmonary Medicine + Critical Care $215,000 $288,000 $417,000
Anesthesiology: Pediatrics $ 283,000 $311,000 $378,000
Critical Care $187,000 $215,000 $320,000
Pediatrics - Critical Care $196,000 $259,000 $398,000
Neonatal Medicine $286,000 $310,000 $381,000
Rheumatology $179,000 $229,000 $378,000
Pediatrics - Neurology $175,000 $189,000 $362,000
Neurology $180,000 $228,000 $345,000
Emergency Medicine $192,000 $216,000 $295,000
Infectious Disease $154,000 $178,000 $271,000
Endocrinology $171,000 $187,000 $260,000
Pediatrics - Hematology/Oncology $182,000 $217,000 $251,000

There are too many pathologists, please look elsewhere...

Screw path....I'm going to go be a neurosurgeon.

How hard can it be? You open the skull, poke around, and go "There's nothing more we can do". :meanie: (kidding)

Screw path....I'm going to go be a neurosurgeon.

How hard can it be? You open the skull, poke around, and go "There's nothing more we can do". :meanie: (kidding)

Go for it, its 4pm here and Im heading the steam room after I get my white russian cocktail.:laugh: Yeah, neurosurgery OWNS. Everyone should do it.

Screw path....I'm going to go be a neurosurgeon.

How hard can it be? You open the skull, poke around, and go "There's nothing more we can do". :meanie: (kidding)

Or be a Neurologist.... See the patient, examine the patient, scan the head, then say.... "There's nothing more we can do... but I can tell you exactly what's wrong!":D

Go for it, its 4pm here and Im heading the steam room after I get my white russian cocktail.:laugh: Yeah, neurosurgery OWNS. Everyone should do it.
The only drawback is 7 years of residency (and yes, I got the sarcasm in your post LADoc).

You know, I've been looking at their FP info, and it doesn't seem right. FP w/o OB making more in year 1-2, but less at 3 years? Whaaaa?

You know, I've been looking at their FP info, and it doesn't seem right. FP w/o OB making more in year 1-2, but less at 3 years? Whaaaa?

A FP I rotated with said his salary droped after a couple of years, then rose again after 4 or so. He said he had income gaurentee, loan payback, etc for 18 months. But after 18 monts, his income gaurentee dropped (still had loan payback for a couple of more) but wasn't booked solid. It took time to buy into the partnership and get a full compliment of patients.

Basically, money is in ownership. After you own stuff, you make more. Just think of nephrologist and thier dialysis machines or cardiologist and the echo machines.

The salary list above isn't all that accurate. My sister was given a starting salary of 350k plus benefits in radiology in Wisconsin.

Radiology is definitely the way to go if you want money and good lifestyle.

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The salary list above isn't all that accurate. My sister was given a starting salary of 350k plus benefits in radiology in Wisconsin.

Radiology is definitely the way to go if you want money and good lifestyle.

These are the averages. I am sure your sister's salary tips the scales to make this set of data inaccurate though. :confused:

i was thinking that those salaries are on the high end for some primary care.

I think these numbers are a bit on the LOW side. Medical Economics is considered THE authuritative source for real physician income. FYI, for 2006, the AVERAGE FP income w/o was $169,000.

You know, I've been looking at their FP info, and it doesn't seem right. FP w/o OB making more in year 1-2, but less at 3 years? Whaaaa?

This has been mentioned before. The only explanation that I can come up with is that it has to do with managed care salary guarantees. Typically, when you sign on with a large managed care outfit, they start you out high as a recruiting incentive, and guarantee your salary for a couple of years. After that, you go on "production," and usually end up having to bust your ass to maintain your income...not everyone can.

i was thinking that those salaries are on the high end for some primary care.

I think these numbers are a bit on the LOW side. Medical Economics is considered THE authuritative source for real physician income. FYI, for 2006, the AVERAGE FP income w/o was $169,000.

Correct. Lots of us are doing better than that.

Correct. Lots of us are doing better than that.



Really?

Really?

Yep...

Yep...

with OB? or just working crazy hours?

with OB? or just working crazy hours?

We're getting off on a tangent here, since the original question related to critical care salaries, but...

No OB, no hospital. Outpatient only, four days per week, eight hours per day. Call every 9th weekday/weekend. Not a salary..."eat what you kill." Full partner in a private multispecialty group, in practice five years.

Not a salary..."eat what you kill."

Yikes. That's a nasty image. :)

Yikes. That's a nasty image. :)

Business talk. Guy stuff. That hunter-gatherer mentality, y'know? ;)

We're getting off on a tangent here, since the original question related to critical care salaries, but...

No OB, no hospital. Outpatient only, four days per week, eight hours per day. Call every 9th weekday/weekend. Not a salary..."eat what you kill." Full partner in a private multispecialty group, in practice five years.

i can deal with that lifestyle,,:cool:

To the OP:

Pediatric Critical Care Doc at terrtiary level transplant hospital in Oklahoma City, OK:

500,000

number of days on call per year: 365


Anes Critical Care: No numbers, but regarded as not lucrative. Suspect less than gen anesthesiologist

Internal Medicine Crit Care Doc full time in Transplant ICU in OKC:
500-600 K rumored

Same call.

The salary list above isn't all that accurate. My sister was given a starting salary of 350k plus benefits in radiology in Wisconsin.

Radiology is definitely the way to go if you want money and good lifestyle.

Isn't Wisconsin famous for having some sort of amazingly advantageous malpractice or tax set-up? I can't remember exactly but for some reason the state hangs in my mind as very "doctor friendly."

I can feel that.

Business talk. Guy stuff. That hunter-gatherer mentality, y'know? ;)

I'm positive critical care has gone up. And it seems as though internists just don't get paid what they're worth. According to edugree, they have gone down http://edugree.com/careers/physician-specialties-salaries-pay-scale

Radiology really got me interested. Can someone tell me more about what they do?

Radiology really got me interested. Can someone tell me more about what they do?
You should ask this in the radiology forum. The critical care forum is about critical care, not radiology.

I get so burned out doing research.,