Hey guys, I'm back. But below this is a pm conversation between me and another user. I think it might explain some of my behaviour which got me suspended from SDN. If you care, then read it and tell me if you think he/she and my statements are correct, or w/e.

Yes, I will post more questions, and I may "troll", but that's just the way I am. Sorry.


Originally Posted by double elle

[PM deleted by aphistis]

wow, that really was a truely eye opening and convincing post you have. Believe me, I do wish that all my worries about this will go away. Everytime I wake up in the morning, I wish that I get amnesia so that I dont have to worry about this crap right now. But it just wont go away. I've always been a big planner. As soon as I started 9th grade, I had decided my career (doctor didn't know what type), and what undergraduate colleges I would apply to. Undergrad is easy to plan for because you can easily get information about what it takes to get in where, etc. I think all this worrying really started, however, when I heard about how 30% of students get into medical school, and even then, not all of them get the residency that they wanted. In psychological terms, this was my traumatic experience which probably has caused me to become obsessive about this stuff. It didn't help either when I found out that things I like such as surgery and anesthesiology are competitive. I'm a person who is well above average, but no ivy league shoe-in type person. Thus, I'm already having doubts about getting into med school, and such, and that's how it builds up to this point. As much as I respect that you have tried as well as so many others, the fact is, that its probably going to take something drastic to change my beliefs about planning this far ahead. Its like smoking cigarettes: I know what I'm doing is bad for me, but I can't stop. I'm addicted, so to speak. So, my response to you, is I sincerly appreciate your effort, but there's nothing anyone can probably do about it. For my own sake though, I just hope that this LCE will not be so drastic that it harms me or someone close to me, and that it will happen soon,

Thanks a lot,
internist

PS
thanks for being nice about this unlike a lot of the other people, which is what caused me to get pissed off in the first place. I wish everyone could be as nice to people like me as you. If you have any other advice for me however or one last trick up your sleeve to stop me from worrying, dont hesitate to try and use it.

Have you considered talking to a professional about your excessive worry?

what up bro...i think what you are doing is actualy cool man..i wish i could back to high school and know what i needed to do along the way..i would have so much more knowledge. There is nothing wrong with you starting that early...**** man i know people that have their parents as doctors and you dont think they tell them about all this stuff and how to go about doing it...i dont want to make this long because i have to write my personal statement but listen keep doing what you are doing, BUT the only thing i would change is not worrying about it. Just do it bro, and do it more, more harder than anyone you know, but dont stress. Just remember you are that much ahead of everyone because you are smart and started at the perfect time to be a perfect doctor but if you stress then you will not be a good physician. One attribute that we all should have is to perform calmly under certain situations and this should be no different. So go out brother, kick ass on your SAT's and then kill the MCAT's and then the boards and then you will be at the best residency at the best location and you will be happy doing it.
AHHHHHHHHHHH i should have started earlier...oh well....


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To the OP, I suggest you speak to someone more local face to face about your concerns. If your school has a worthwhile guidance counselor that may be the place to start. If that isn't the case perhaps you can start with the school healthcare professional (nurse, etc.).

isn't it a violation of the SDN TOS to post PMs?

isn't it a violation of the SDN TOS to post PMs?
Yes.

Hey guys, I'm back. But below this is a pm conversation between me and another user. I think it might explain some of my behaviour which got me suspended from SDN. If you care, then read it and tell me if you think he/she and my statements are correct, or w/e.

Yes, I will post more questions, and I may "troll", but that's just the way I am. Sorry.


Originally Posted by double elle

[PM deleted by aphistis]

wow, that really was a truely eye opening and convincing post you have. Believe me, I do wish that all my worries about this will go away. Everytime I wake up in the morning, I wish that I get amnesia so that I dont have to worry about this crap right now. But it just wont go away. I've always been a big planner. As soon as I started 9th grade, I had decided my career (doctor didn't know what type), and what undergraduate colleges I would apply to. Undergrad is easy to plan for because you can easily get information about what it takes to get in where, etc. I think all this worrying really started, however, when I heard about how 30% of students get into medical school, and even then, not all of them get the residency that they wanted. In psychological terms, this was my traumatic experience which probably has caused me to become obsessive about this stuff. It didn't help either when I found out that things I like such as surgery and anesthesiology are competitive. I'm a person who is well above average, but no ivy league shoe-in type person. Thus, I'm already having doubts about getting into med school, and such, and that's how it builds up to this point. As much as I respect that you have tried as well as so many others, the fact is, that its probably going to take something drastic to change my beliefs about planning this far ahead. Its like smoking cigarettes: I know what I'm doing is bad for me, but I can't stop. I'm addicted, so to speak. So, my response to you, is I sincerly appreciate your effort, but there's nothing anyone can probably do about it. For my own sake though, I just hope that this LCE will not be so drastic that it harms me or someone close to me, and that it will happen soon,

Thanks a lot,
internist

PS
thanks for being nice about this unlike a lot of the other people, which is what caused me to get pissed off in the first place. I wish everyone could be as nice to people like me as you. If you have any other advice for me however or one last trick up your sleeve to stop me from worrying, dont hesitate to try and use it.


dude ....what a WEIRDO! :meanie:

i don't get it

The nice thing about the education in the US (versus Japan let's say) is that you don't have to take a linear, escalating path of excellence to reach your goal of being a doctor in a certain competitive field. (In Japan, if you fall off track from secondary school on, it's much harder to get back on course.)

I know several people who did so-so in high school and okay in college and wound up in excellent medical schools, worked very hard once in, and matched in competitive residencies. (One particular person is now a neurosurgeon.)

By the anxious tone of your message, it seems you're not enjoying yourself. You can still enjoy high school and college before buckling down in medical school. Do non-medicine things that you love during this time (and hopefully excel at it), and it'll show when it comes time to apply. You'll be likely to burn out if you don't take time to enjoy the moment.

But if you can sustain that level of intensity for a decade, kudos to you. I wouldn't be surprised that by that point you will opt for a lifestyle residency. Gratification is either maintained or delayed. I prefer the former.