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clement 02-05-2007, 04:03 PM Hey Guys,
Some of us got that Email today...I'm in:D
Thoughts and feelings? Pros and cons? Deposits down elsewhere? Interviews on the horizon?
Let's write it out...
PS: I'm in at MI, waitlisted in LV...I'm in love with the program...
My main concerns however, are housing and long term stuff like having the option to practice in CA if I should decide...Anyone have their 2 cents on practicing in NY versus CA? Guess that depends on where in CA and where in NY (i.e. NYC)...During our interview they stressed how much of shortage of healthcare the city itself has (all the while rich areas like Great Neck and Short Hills have plenty of docs)..
PS 2: Did anyone ask during their interview how long an avg day would be? I know Mare Island is making it so that classes end around 2, Nevada is still going til 4ish...
I'd love 2 see a move toward getting things online (ehem less mandatory attendance) and shorter days, but that doesn't usually happen til schools are older:laugh: and people get lazier! Someone made a good point about the possibility of the curriculum potentially starting out as *super tough* so that pass rates would be initially high as the school establishes itself, is this the norm?
Mr. Jess 02-05-2007, 04:17 PM Touro is my first acceptance, and although I'm waiting on the results of my interview at Drexel, I'm strongly leaning towards Touro both because I really want to be in NYC for personal & professional reasons and I really like its emphasis on urban medicine.
I remember hearing that our days would end around 2, so I guess it's similar to Touro-MI.
As for housing, I've been finding my own places to live for the 8 years, so this would be nothing new. I'm nearly 27 and really do not want to do any dorm-style living arrangment. Plus, based on the pricing list that Obed gave us for potential housing and the prices of apartments in the Harlem area, it's actually a better deal to get your own place.
In terms of where you want to practice, from what I can tell it does not matter whatsoever where you attend medical school. Residency doesn't even matter completely (although I've heard it helps to do residency where you want to practice so that you can make connections). I've had several friends go to med school out of state (2 in OH, 1 in NY) who are now doing their residencies in CA. I'm from CA and I might want to go back one day, but I'm not worried about Touro-NY closing any doors. As long as we do well on our boards, do well in class, and get strong recommendations, I think we'll be in the same position as some in any other med school.
I would've liked Touro to have more things online, but you're right -- that's something that comes with time. They did seem very open to our suggestions, so it sounds like being vocal about those things will be helpful. I also would have preferred a more problem-based, smaller-group curriculum, but that's also a lot to ask for a brand new school.
Regardless, I'm super excited. Congrats to clement and everyone else who got in!!
clement 02-05-2007, 05:38 PM Touro is my first acceptance, and although I'm waiting on the results of my interview at Drexel, I'm strongly leaning towards Touro both because I really want to be in NYC for personal & professional reasons and I really like its emphasis on urban medicine.
I remember hearing that our days would end around 2, so I guess it's similar to Touro-MI.
As for housing, I've been finding my own places to live for the 8 years, so this would be nothing new. I'm nearly 27 and really do not want to do any dorm-style living arrangment. Plus, based on the pricing list that Obed gave us for potential housing and the prices of apartments in the Harlem area, it's actually a better deal to get your own place.
In terms of where you want to practice, from what I can tell it does not matter whatsoever where you attend medical school. Residency doesn't even matter completely (although I've heard it helps to do residency where you want to practice so that you can make connections). I've had several friends go to med school out of state (2 in OH, 1 in NY) who are now doing their residencies in CA. I'm from CA and I might want to go back one day, but I'm not worried about Touro-NY closing any doors. As long as we do well on our boards, do well in class, and get strong recommendations, I think we'll be in the same position as some in any other med school.
I would've liked Touro to have more things online, but you're right -- that's something that comes with time. They did seem very open to our suggestions, so it sounds like being vocal about those things will be helpful. I also would have preferred a more problem-based, smaller-group curriculum, but that's also a lot to ask for a brand new school.
Regardless, I'm super excited. Congrats to clement and everyone else who got in!!
My thoughts exactly! Good to know about the 2 PM thing! Yes, they seemed VERY open to suggestions and I did bring up online stuff and paying close attention to the length of our classes.
Well, I hear you about dorms, as I'm in the same age category as you and don't see myself dorming it out...There are a fair amount of more reasonable options for housing as you get away from the area, however, I think I'd be restricted by the subway routes (more specifically, the red line)...
Onstarr 02-05-2007, 06:22 PM congrats to everyone :thumbup:
rotations & residency placement is a big factor for me.
I am still trying to research on how other TOUROs did..
overall, the NYC location is amazing.
New facilities & equipment is also a plus.
In addition, all the interviewees seemed down to earth and relatively chill.
Its going to be fun regardless.
$2000 deposit within 14days huh..
man o man.. decisions decisions!
NJDO01 02-05-2007, 06:28 PM To those who are accepted when did you interview. I interviewed on the 31st and I havent heard from them. Starting to get worried that Im rejected.
hps2103 02-06-2007, 07:38 AM We should definitely put our thoughts together and offer more suggestions about what we would like to see in the first year. I thought it was cool of them to actually ask for feedback during the interviews, but it also sorta threw me off guard. I guess at the time I felt like if I don't even know if I'm accepted, than I'm not sure what to say. Obviously that is different now. Shorter classes sound cool...as well as online stuff. But I could have sworn someone mentioned that they are going to have lectures posted online (could have heard wrong though).
They also mentioned possible shuttle service at night to take students back to their apts. That was a pretty good idea and I think we should push that more. Also, some others in my interview group suggested requesting discounts on gym memberships or having a gym, giving us our own lockers, and having our own school email address (which I thought all schools give out, but I guess touro does not). Anything else you can think of?
I know some schools give discounts on board prep programs. I thought this might be a good suggestion? Also, do you know if there will be a student lounge/lunch area in the building? I had this in grad school (which also was a new building) and thought that was a nice (but not necessary) plus.
Onstarr 02-06-2007, 08:07 AM yea they said the school will be open until 2am so the transportation system would be very essential.
I am excited to hear that the gym membership to NYSC will probably be discounted for us! That would be nice. and its just right around the corner.
however, I have having a very tough decision between unecom & touro-ny
Dr. Josh 02-06-2007, 08:27 AM We should definitely put our thoughts together and offer more suggestions about what we would like to see in the first year. I thought it was cool of them to actually ask for feedback during the interviews, but it also sorta threw me off guard. I guess at the time I felt like if I don't even know if I'm accepted, than I'm not sure what to say. Obviously that is different now. Shorter classes sound cool...as well as online stuff. But I could have sworn someone mentioned that they are going to have lectures posted online (could have heard wrong though).
They also mentioned possible shuttle service at night to take students back to their apts. That was a pretty good idea and I think we should push that more. Also, some others in my interview group suggested requesting discounts on gym memberships or having a gym, giving us our own lockers, and having our own school email address (which I thought all schools give out, but I guess touro does not). Anything else you can think of?
I know some schools give discounts on board prep programs. I thought this might be a good suggestion? Also, do you know if there will be a student lounge/lunch area in the building? I had this in grad school (which also was a new building) and thought that was a nice (but not necessary) plus.
great ideas! how about greatly reduced housing? do they provide any sort of housing?
Mr. Jess 02-06-2007, 08:31 AM I remember Obed saying that we would most likely get a discounted membership to NYSC, which is great since I think that's a pretty good gym.
It'd also be nice if we had some sort of forum or message board for people looking for roommates. I know that I want to get an apartment and it'd be nice to live with another student so that we're on a similar schedule!
Discounts on board prep programs would be great. I also hope they give us some time (2-4 weeks) before Step 1 to study and prepare.
There's definitely going to be a student lounge and it should be pretty nice. They said we can take a tour of the facilities in April when it's done.
They also mentioned possible shuttle service at night to take students back to their apts. That was a pretty good idea and I think we should push that more. Also, some others in my interview group suggested requesting discounts on gym memberships or having a gym, giving us our own lockers, and having our own school email address (which I thought all schools give out, but I guess touro does not). Anything else you can think of?
I know some schools give discounts on board prep programs. I thought this might be a good suggestion? Also, do you know if there will be a student lounge/lunch area in the building? I had this in grad school (which also was a new building) and thought that was a nice (but not necessary) plus.
digital01 02-06-2007, 08:55 AM How was the campus looking interview day?
Nelachka 02-06-2007, 09:47 AM I got my acceptance email today. i interviewed on 01/31/07. I also got into NYCOM and will be going there although I live down the street.
Stats:
26Q MCAT
3.3 GPA
Excellent research and clinical experience
:)
clement 02-06-2007, 10:30 AM I got my acceptance email today. i interviewed on 01/31/07. I also got into NYCOM and will be going there although I live down the street.
Stats:
26Q MCAT
3.3 GPA
Excellent research and clinical experience
:)
How long have you been living there/how's it been? Do you think there are any affordable housing options in the area? Still trying to figure out what's the best way to find housing in the area besides craigslist & friends of friends.
Several locals at my interview mentioned Westchester/Astoria, though I THINK that can get a little far...The upper westside is convenient as far as the subway goes, but $$$$$$$$$ as is all else i guess.
Onstarr 02-06-2007, 02:53 PM I got my acceptance email today. i interviewed on 01/31/07. I also got into NYCOM and will be going there although I live down the street.
Stats:
26Q MCAT
3.3 GPA
Excellent research and clinical experience
:)
congrats.
you will be going to nycom?
Shuevee 02-06-2007, 07:39 PM To those who are accepted when did you interview. I interviewed on the 31st and I havent heard from them. Starting to get worried that Im rejected.
I got my acceptance yesterday via e-mail and also interviewed on the 31st. For those of you wondering about housing, I would consider living in Astoria. It's a short bus ride away and one of the more hip and sophisticated areas in Queens.
Rent still isn't cheap (a one bedroom apartment can go for around $1100).
I don't know if I believe some of the faculty there, but they said that the lectures would be streamed and accessible on the internet.
GProteinStar 02-06-2007, 09:11 PM WOW!
Congrats to those of you who have been accepted!
I just got back from NYC. What an amazing school! I am definitely having second thoughts about where to go to school now. I think the main selling point for the school is the location and clinical experiences! Just to clarify, school days will be done by 2pm unless a lab is necessary. Dress code is still in the works --> they are leaning towards business casual. We would share Columbia's library and resources!!! I hope I receive good news in the next few days. I am speechless.
Mare Island or NYC???
Dr.Inviz 02-06-2007, 09:16 PM WOW!
Congrats to those of you who have been accepted!
I just got back from NYC. What an amazing school! I am definitely having second thoughts about where to go to school now. I think the main selling point for the school is the location and clinical experiences! Just to clarify, school days will be done by 2pm unless a lab is necessary. Dress code is still in the works --> they are leaning towards business casual. We would share Columbia's library and resources!!! I hope I receive good news in the next few days. I am speechless.
Mare Island or NYC???
ahh damn, so Touro-NY is connected to Columbia? ... damn, I should have ponied up the dociento.
clement 02-06-2007, 09:29 PM WOW!
Congrats to those of you who have been accepted!
I just got back from NYC. What an amazing school! I am definitely having second thoughts about where to go to school now. I think the main selling point for the school is the location and clinical experiences! Just to clarify, school days will be done by 2pm unless a lab is necessary. Dress code is still in the works --> they are leaning towards business casual. We would share Columbia's library and resources!!! I hope I receive good news in the next few days. I am speechless.
Mare Island or NYC???
Hey there!
I'm in the same boat as you as far as Mare Island and Tourocom-NY (though I got my acceptance to Tourocom-NY yesterday:D )...
Was wondering, could you elaborate more on the library/resources thing you mentioned in collaboration w/ Columbia? The only reason I ask is because during my inteview, they kept emphasizing their planned use of one of the first ever approved exclusively virtual libraries (i.e. online) for a US medical school, etc...They didn't mention anything about sharing a library or resources w/ Columbia-
except possibly working something out for housing...I'm interested in knowing more about this...Thanks and good luck:luck:
Onstarr 02-06-2007, 09:43 PM Hey there!
I'm in the same boat as you as far as Mare Island and Tourocom-NY (though I got my acceptance to Tourocom-NY yesterday:D )...
Was wondering, could you elaborate more on the library/resources thing you mentioned in collaboration w/ Columbia? The only reason I ask is because during my inteview, they kept emphasizing their planned use of one of the first ever approved exclusively virtual libraries (i.e. online) for a US medical school, etc...They didn't mention anything about sharing a library or resources w/ Columbia-
except possibly working something out for housing...I'm interested in knowing more about this...Thanks and good luck:luck:
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Would like to know more about the library thing.
Man.. finding housing in the city is an adventure of its own.
I am curious to know more about the clinical rotations for this school. Didnt they said most will be done at North general hospital?
or will we be going to all the different schools that were listed on the powerpoint pres.?
LINYKid 02-07-2007, 02:25 AM yea they said the school will be open until 2am so the transportation system would be very essential.
I am excited to hear that the gym membership to NYSC will probably be discounted for us! That would be nice. and its just right around the corner.
however, I have having a very tough decision between unecom & touro-ny
dont want to burst any bubbles but I have had various NYSC discounts before and they are prettty much avg for a NYC gym. Between 60-80 monthly depending on if you choose to use 1 facility as your main and use others off-peak or access alt. locations anytime
Dr. Josh 02-07-2007, 05:05 AM What are they doing abnout housing? Are they leasing apartments or dorms or is everyone on their own to find their own place. NYC is super expensive.
Onstarr 02-07-2007, 06:49 AM What are they doing abnout housing? Are they leasing apartments or dorms or is everyone on their own to find their own place. NYC is super expensive.
I would be looking at apts near the Columbia area..
Midtown/downtown apts are so expensive.
Dr. Josh 02-07-2007, 06:53 AM I would be looking at apts near the Columbia area..
Midtown/downtown apts are so expensive.
So everyone is their own for housing? Nothing set up by the school?
Mr. Jess 02-07-2007, 07:25 AM They said they are arranging housing at the YMCA and the Sheraton so that there is some other option. I was looking at the pricing list, however, and it's not really a better deal. If you want your own room, it could run up to $20,000/year. From what I can tell, 2-bedroom apartments go for no more than $2000/month in Harlem, so I think it's just a better idea (financially) to get your own apartment.
Onstarr 02-07-2007, 07:27 AM it seems you can find housing for around 1600-2000/mo for 2br. if you dont mind a place a bit away from the school
800-1000/person.. not too shabby.
hps2103 02-07-2007, 08:35 AM That would be great if there is access to the Columbia libraries. As a recent columbia alum, this was another reason why I applied to Touro Harlem. The libraries aren't too far from the school, and I've never seen a better place to study. Definitely a HUGE plus if they can hook that up...
Just curious...is anyone else out there weak in the sciences? If so, I thought it might be a good idea to see if they have any plans at the school to address this issue. I know some schools offer a summer anatomy or biochem prep class. This is something I would definitely be interested in before getting overwhelmed with the first year.
clement 02-07-2007, 11:34 AM They said they are arranging housing at the YMCA and the Sheraton so that there is some other option. I was looking at the pricing list, however, and it's not really a better deal. If you want your own room, it could run up to $20,000/year. From what I can tell, 2-bedroom apartments go for no more than $2000/month in Harlem, so I think it's just a better idea (financially) to get your own apartment.
Agreed...Getting a ballpark idea from Craiglist (which I detest), seems like your own room in a 2 bdrm w/someone else will avg around $1000...A tiny studio of your own (and I mean 400 sq ft-ish) seems to be do-able at around $1300 in the Harlem/Morningside Heights area... I'm trying to weigh out the benifits of living alone vs. roommates.
They did mention being in the PROCESS of negociating contracts w/ various sources, and that regardless, they would guarantee housing for all those accepted...WHAT kind of housing situation, is still in the air at this point in time...
It'd be amazing if they could work out apartment deals rather than hotel/dorm type deals (which seems like what they're initially leaning towards), since some of us are a little *older* than 21!!...
I'd like to convince them to cooperate w/ Columbia's housing dept or at least somehow help out those who want to live in an apartment on their own (i.e. some brokers offer broker fee discounts to students whose schools use their services for off-campus housing).
This is another problem, brokers charging upwards of $1000 to find you a place (again, craiglist is hideous for me, getting there with 5 people ahead of you sitting at the doorstep and then the renter taking advantage and playing pick 'n choose...I imagine the problem is even worse in NYC where people want to avoid broker fees!).
Yes, I remember them mentioning the Sheraton...Which one was it?
Dr. Josh 02-07-2007, 11:41 AM It'd be amazing if they could work out apartment deals rather than hotel/dorm type deals (which seems like what they're initially leaning towards), since some of us are a little *older* than 21!!...
Yes, I remember them mentioning the Sheraton...Which one was it?
Would they rent the Sheraton as an apartment building or charge day rates for a single bedroom and bathroom as a hotel?
Dr Kay 02-07-2007, 12:22 PM I'd like to convince them to cooperate w/ Columbia's housing dept or at least somehow help out those who want to live in an apartment on their own (i.e. some brokers offer broker fee discounts to students whose schools use their services for off-campus housing).
This is another problem, brokers charging upwards of $1000 to find you a place (again, craiglist is hideous for me, getting there with 5 people ahead of you sitting at the doorstep and then the renter taking advantage and playing pick 'n choose...I imagine the problem is even worse in NYC where people want to avoid broker fees!).
From what I understood from obed during my interview, we would not be paying the brokers fee, the broker's/realator's services are free of charge to admited students.
clement 02-07-2007, 12:40 PM From what I understood from obed during my interview, we would not be paying the brokers fee, the broker's/realator's services are free of charge to admited students.
so they've found a broker for those who want off-campus (non-dorm) style housing? I don't recall that at my interview, could you elaborate? i know they're working on it daily and my interview was one of the first batches.
though i do recall talk of the sheraton and ymca....still don't know which sheraton.
VYTillIDie 02-07-2007, 01:01 PM Hey everyone-
I applied December 20, got the secondary early January, but didn't have it in my possession until January 13th when I got back to school. I didn't mail it in until February 5. Anyone think my long delay before sending it in could negatively affect my application? Will my MCAT be able to counter my subpar GPA? I applied to like 10 schools EARLY summer and no interview invites.
GPA: 3.30
MCAT: 33O
Onstarr 02-07-2007, 01:15 PM Hey everyone-
I applied December 20, got the secondary early January, but didn't have it in my possession until January 13th when I got back to school. I didn't mail it in until February 5. Anyone think my long delay before sending it in could negatively affect my application? Will my MCAT be able to counter my subpar GPA? I applied to like 10 schools EARLY summer and no interview invites.
GPA: 3.05
MCAT: 33O
your mcat score is clearly advantageous.
they will not over look you
lkoffman 02-07-2007, 01:59 PM hello everyone...just had my interview today
so about the library/resources, when we went to north shore hospital a resident showed us around and kept saying that the hospital is affiliated with mt sinai so they have access to their journals, facilities etc.
obed also showed us a listing og various places for housing and ranges, they are putting together a list of realtors in the area for us to use, and will be compiling a listserve so that accepted students can look for roommates.
even though the school isnt finished yet in really excited, the deans were very welcoming and i think everyone has high expectations for the school.
clement 02-07-2007, 02:32 PM hello everyone...just had my interview today
so about the library/resources, when we went to north shore hospital a resident showed us around and kept saying that the hospital is affiliated with mt sinai so they have access to their journals, facilities etc.
obed also showed us a listing og various places for housing and ranges, they are putting together a list of realtors in the area for us to use, and will be compiling a listserve so that accepted students can look for roommates.
even though the school isnt finished yet in really excited, the deans were very welcoming and i think everyone has high expectations for the school.
I had a similar impression...Also, as a sidenote, the school has been getting A-list publicity as the pioneer "urban medical school in harlem" and the dean, dr. diamond, is a nyc big shot, has some sort of hook up with mehmet oz (the oprah winfrey show doctor from columbia u)...supposedly, oprah is getting involved too (and with her recent south african school project, the timing coincides really well). in fact, i mentioned this before, but it seems like the dean is well hooked up in general (he was the first DO chairman of some major ny medical society and used to work with NYCOM, set up a lot of their residency/rotation stuff)...long story short, the publicity confirms that they are under pressure to perform- i imagine.
we should really make use of the fact that they are so open to suggestions right now (in fact, during my interview day, most of us had a chat session with obed in which he took notes, asking us what we'd like to see added, as potential students, and that's when many of us suggested various housing ideas, online lectures, short class days, etc)...So yea, let's pile it on! haha
Dr Kay 02-07-2007, 02:51 PM I had a similar impression...Also, as a sidenote, the school has been getting A-list publicity as the pioneer "urban medical school in harlem" and the dean, dr. diamond, is a nyc big shot, has some sort of hook up with mehmet oz (the oprah winfrey show doctor from columbia u)...supposedly, oprah is getting involved too (and with her recent south african school project, the timing coincides really well).
What do you mean oprah is getting involved? getting involved with What? expand
Dr Kay 02-07-2007, 02:54 PM so they've found a broker for those who want off-campus (non-dorm) style housing? I don't recall that at my interview, could you elaborate? i know they're working on it daily and my interview was one of the first batches.
though i do recall talk of the sheraton and ymca....still don't know which sheraton.
Obed mentioned that they would be getting a broker who will be working with students to find suitable housing, at no charge to the students, but the final details are not worked out yet. somebody please correct me if I am wrong
clement 02-07-2007, 03:06 PM What do you mean oprah is getting involved? getting involved with What? expand
let's see, how shall i put this,
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$
:laugh:
All jokes aside, the *Oprah and Dr. Oz subject* came up during the research department development portion of their presentation (so yea, I was subconsciously snoozing), but I believe it was mainly funding, and of course, publicity, i.e. encouraging under-represented students to apply. though i think that's more their external campaign, it seems like they were interviewing applicants from all sorts of backgrounds, not just minority applicants. i think they ideally prefer people who are at the end of the day, genuinely committed to to serving urban populations and have demonstrated that committment-
rather than admitting strictly minorities (which is how some people interpreted tourocom-ny's mission statement ).
not a big fan of research, but i got the impression one of their main goals is to pioneer the association of *research school* with *osteopathic medical school* and during my interview they emphasized incorporating mandatory research units in the curriculum. in the end, i think it's easier to get funding as a research-oriented school...
which is an angle that most other DO schools (correct me if I'm wrong) have not capitalized on. i think the research angle also gives greater prestige/credibility to a school's reputation
HousingDO 02-08-2007, 02:28 PM Ok all,
Here's what I know: They are planning for the school day to end at 2pm, but more importantly, they are planning on the day starting between 7:30 am and 8:00 am. If we're going to make suggestions as a group, I think we should address that first. I know many of the schools start as early as 8 or 8:30 am, but with NY traffic and commute hell (I'm a New Yorker and went to Columbia Undergrad), we should really suggest starting closer 9:00 am if not later, even if we finish the day at 3:00 pm or 3:30 pm.
Osteopathy is definitely on a sharp rise and being in the inaugural class of the first urban-based school that I'm aware of is a big deal. As long as we do well on the Boards we'll have all of the options everyone else has available to us. And Dr. Diamond is a bonafide badass. He has insane connections that we'll benefit from come rotation time and from an exposure standpoint. The more people know about DO's the more we'll be requested and therefore, in demand at hospitals and in private practice.
I expect that they will be forced to buy more real estate and expand the size of the program right after we perform and show an extremely high pass rate on the boards. Most, if not all of these schools are located in a very suburban area and plan on serving urban areas. This experiment in Harlem should prove that you can successfully prepare in the most distracting environment and be successful. Should start a wave of schools in urban areas, sitting right in the middle of the population they're designed to serve, which will improve awareness and patient interest.
Next, I am communicating with Obed so there will be more housing options. I worked as a Real Estate Broker since '01 and my old firm will find everyone housing without cost to the renter themselves. So hold tight and I will have them assemble a long list of housing that we can post online and at the school and set it up so people can communicate to one another and even visit apartments together. The cost is exactly what you are saying, about $1300 for a studio (400+ sq ft), $1500 or so for a 1-bedroom (600 sq ft) and $1600-$2000 for a 2 bedroom (800-1200 sq ft).
I would like to suggest to you guys what we setup for students near Brooklyn Law School where the students look at purchasing their apartments and with the rates of appreciation in NY, these people either made a modest profit or offset all 4 years of their living expenses when the sold. And their sales market was easy because they all pretty much sold to new students coming into the school. Wise financial strategy. Take the proceeds from the sale and maybe knock your loans off in 1 clean shot. Think about it.
Also, Obed mentioned that all of the lectures will be recorded and uploaded online and all of the classrooms will be setup for that, however, this is so important that I think we should all voice it so it doesn't get overlooked when the construction gets hairy (and it always does). We should also ask about working with PDA's, the way I hear NYCOM students do. We should push for casual dress on a day to day basis. We'll have enough to worry about and even business casual is a headache. We'll dress well for clinical. We should definitely get our own touro email addresses and should push for the lockers.
The gym membership stuff is no big deal. We won't get a great deal from any gym chain. And NYSC is especially unkept. I worked there for a couple of years. Equinox would be the best quality. but most gyms in the Harlem area are somewhat unclean, to be honest. If we had our own very small facility that might be the best thing. And that's all I know.
Onstarr 02-08-2007, 02:39 PM i also believe dr. diamond is a board member for new york osteopathic society as well...
thank you for looking out for us housingDO
Shuevee 02-08-2007, 07:33 PM [QUOTE=HousingDO;4720731]Ok all,
Here's what I know: They are planning for the school day to end at 2pm, but more importantly, they are planning on the day starting between 7:30 am and 8:00 am. If we're going to make suggestions as a group, I think we should address that first. I know many of the schools start as early as 8 or 8:30 am, but with NY traffic and commute hell (I'm a New Yorker and went to Columbia Undergrad), we should really suggest starting closer 9:00 am if not later, even if we finish the day at 3:00 pm or 3:30 pm.
The subways and traffic make you suicidal starting work or school at 9 am in the city. I'd rather start at 8 or 10 am.
HousingDO 02-09-2007, 02:15 PM Just got my acceptance to TouroCom. Not a bad turnaround...48 hours!
But I've gone to work in the city for the past 8 years at a variety of time from 6am to 10am and as a native, after 7am, it's all the same crowded, delayed insanity. Starting a little later will at least curb the grouchy, short-fuse the early morning forces. And the people on the train earlier in the morning are the Wall St brokers and the people working in construction and security. Those aren't the ones you want to bump the wrong way first thing in the morning. The 9amers are a softer crowd that are less likely to assault you for a better hand grip on the pole.
clement 02-09-2007, 02:26 PM Just got my acceptance to TouroCom. Not a bad turnaround...48 hours!
But I've gone to work in the city for the past 8 years at a variety of time from 6am to 10am and as a native, after 7am, it's all the same crowded, delayed insanity. Starting a little later will at least curb the grouchy, short-fuse the early morning forces. And the people on the train earlier in the morning are the Wall St brokers and the people working in construction and security. Those aren't the ones you want to bump the wrong way first thing in the morning. The 9amers are a softer crowd that are less likely to assault you for a better hand grip on the pole.
:laugh: We need more of this funny sh** on the left coast.
GProteinStar 02-09-2007, 02:27 PM Just received my letter of acceptance as well! Decision time. Clement what did you decide on?
clement 02-09-2007, 02:39 PM Just received my letter of acceptance as well! Decision time. Clement what did you decide on?
Hey congrats to both you and HousingDO!
Ahhhhh wellllllllllllllllll I'm like 93% TouroCOM-NY and the rest is Mare Island...
We really need to start a pro and con thing (I think so far you're the only other one in my shoes as far as the 2 Touros?)...
My worry is that I might be leaning toward NY because it's *different* and because it's NYC...Though there are some serious $$, climatic, far from family, and new school hurdle realities to consider, I admit...I'm a little scared because most of my hope is based on "confidence in the school to deliver" as opposed to a proven record (but hey, they did fine in Nevada).
Maybe it's a dumb thing to base my decision on, but I'm just sick of the west coast suburban sprawl lifestyle that persists even in big cities on this coast (which is precisely why my NYC friends who live here love it!)....Maybe I'll want to come back when I'm in my 30s...Hope that won't be a problem!
A lot of us have mentioned housing and rotations as our big concerns...I don't think either will be too problematic...Healthcare is in demand in the city itself and from what I know from family members finishing up EM and OB/GYN residencies in the city, to the degree that hospitals within the city depend A LOT on residents and rotating students to help out (especially in lower income areas). This also translates to long days and more work (I'm guessing) and work at *tougher* hospitals (which is why I stressed that anyone who goes should really be committed to underserved/community medicine).
I guess not knowing the city and its hospitals and wondering if the rotations will be set up so that we can commute safely and easily to and from, could be an issue (especially given I won't have a car, another bonus!) But that issue is years away. Several people (in the osteopathic forum, new school vs. old school threads have mentioned the first two years being equal across the board for all schools, but it's the school's effort/reputation in getting you into the residency phase that really counts (that's where older schools have a distinct advantage).
Touro, however, is a branch campus for all intensive purposes, so perhaps wanting to do a residency in CA or NV would already have a backing by the more established schools' reputations. On the other hand, if you want to stay in the East Coast, well, my impression is that DOs are more established on that side of the country anyway (regardless of school)...Plus who in NY hasn't heard of "Touro" based on their other schools (i.e. Law School, etc).
Who knows, maybe I'm young right now and want the experience of living in a big city and having the distinct advantage of exposure to a great demographic array which I don't think I could get anywhere else (yes, that's their big selling point). I just don't want to make a decision I'll regret, that's my big fear-factor! Do I want to come back to CA? What are the distinct issues of studying/rotating in CA vs. NY? That's what I want someone to tell me...
I've interviewed at all 3 Touros, so I can speak with a fair degree of confidence that stuff will happen they way they say it will...Sure there will be kinks, but I don't think it will be anything we'd want to shoot ourselves in the leg over.
So how about you Gprotein?
PS: I'm still waiting on the hardcopy of my letter! Ha I'll I need is for someone to say the EMAIL I got was a technical error hehehe
GProteinStar 02-09-2007, 02:43 PM I don't really know the specifics of the interaction between Touro NY and Columbia other than we have the option of using their library and library's resources. One of the interview groups was discussing this in between interview phases. I got my acceptance to NY today I feel torn in choosing between Mare Island and NY!! Professionally, I think NY would be better but my entire family is pushing for me to go Mare Island (I have family in California).
:confused:
Hey there!
I'm in the same boat as you as far as Mare Island and Tourocom-NY (though I got my acceptance to Tourocom-NY yesterday:D )...
Was wondering, could you elaborate more on the library/resources thing you mentioned in collaboration w/ Columbia? The only reason I ask is because during my inteview, they kept emphasizing their planned use of one of the first ever approved exclusively virtual libraries (i.e. online) for a US medical school, etc...They didn't mention anything about sharing a library or resources w/ Columbia-
except possibly working something out for housing...I'm interested in knowing more about this...Thanks and good luck:luck:
TerpDO 02-09-2007, 02:48 PM well add me to the accepted list. Man I have never been so undecided in my life. I currently hold a deposit at Touro-NV but Touro-Harlem has really got my attention. I've got to read through all these articles that someone linked to and see how I feel. decisions, decisions....
GProteinStar 02-09-2007, 02:52 PM I am more like 50%-50% between both schools.
Mare Island:
1. Close to family and friends
2. Established and reputable in terms of rotations and options
3. Nature, Arts, culture available at your fingertips (when the stresses of medical school become unbearable and a break is needed
4. Would be able to spend more time with husband (a factor probably unique to me)
5. Affiliation to Stanford University
6. Excellent weather
NY:
1. High clinical exposure
2. Affiliation with Columbia U.
3. Arts and culture at your fingertips
4. Demanding curriculum or at least an impression of it as demanding that would in my opinion better prepare us as future doctors.
clement 02-09-2007, 03:01 PM I am more like 50%-50% between both schools.
Mare Island:
1. Close to family and friends
2. Established and reputable in terms of rotations and options
3. Nature, Arts, culture available at your fingertips (when the stresses of medical school become unbearable and a break is needed
4. Would be able to spend more time with husband (a factor probably unique to me)
5. Affiliation to Stanford University
6. Excellent weather
NY:
1. High clinical exposure
2. Affiliation with Columbia U.
3. Arts and culture at your fingertips
4. Demanding curriculum or at least an impression of it as demanding that would in my opinion better prepare us as future doctors.
I'm under great family pressure to go for CA as well...Not to mention everyone in my family keeps asking me if my $2K at Mare Island is transferable (ha NOOOOO).
Your pro list is good...I'll post mine soon (as I figure it out!)....From your list I can say that comfort is definitely a factor...CA will be more laid back (curriculum, weather, pace, intensity)....NY will be more intense but with (what I gather) is a stronger potential to form an amazing physician who has survived a tough curriculum, tough/long hours at NYC's healthcare-shortage hostpitals, and exposure to a greater demographic (and for us west coast wusses, that's IF we can survive the winters :laugh: though I have to say, when I interviewed it was in the 40s, i know, unusually *warm* and I was loving it!)
socal78 02-09-2007, 03:45 PM how is touro affilliated with stanford and columbia?
I am more like 50%-50% between both schools.
Mare Island:
1. Close to family and friends
2. Established and reputable in terms of rotations and options
3. Nature, Arts, culture available at your fingertips (when the stresses of medical school become unbearable and a break is needed
4. Would be able to spend more time with husband (a factor probably unique to me)
5. Affiliation to Stanford University
6. Excellent weather
NY:
1. High clinical exposure
2. Affiliation with Columbia U.
3. Arts and culture at your fingertips
4. Demanding curriculum or at least an impression of it as demanding that would in my opinion better prepare us as future doctors.
clement 02-09-2007, 03:56 PM how is touro affilliated with stanford and columbia?
I think Gprotein and others may be referring to the cooperation between schools in terms of sharing resources (at least in the case of Columbia it seems to be the library and some connection with Dr. Mehmet Oz (Oprah Show) who the school/Dean has an apparent hookup with- I believe this is linked to the urban medicine focus (see previous posts in this thread), rotation opportunities would be great!)...I'm not sure what the precise connection is with Stanford, though I think I may have read something about Touro-MI students doing rotation/residency work at the hospital...
erdoc2be 02-09-2007, 04:14 PM TouroCOM-NY has the potential to become an amazing school. its up to us to direct it in the right path.
I interviewed Tuesday and just received an email acceptance this evening.
Cant wait to move back home to NYC!
paramba 02-09-2007, 04:30 PM damn Touro is quick!! i interviewed tuesday and just got an e-mail saying i got in too . . . and the decision making begins . . . .:confused:
Hexanol 02-09-2007, 05:13 PM I interviewed on 2/6/2007 and just received my acceptance today as well! Congrats everyone!!! :thumbup:
lkoffman 02-09-2007, 05:31 PM I interviewed 2/7 and got an acceptance today...and sending in the deposit. Anyone else definitely sending in a deposit?
lkoffman 02-09-2007, 05:40 PM I interviewed 2/7 and got an acceptance today...and sending in the deposit. Anyone else definitely sending in a deposit?
Hexanol 02-09-2007, 05:47 PM I interviewed 2/7 and got an acceptance today...and sending in the deposit. Anyone else definitely sending in a deposit?
I'm not sure if i'll be sending in my deposit but it's still an option. i have some thinking to do. :D
Onstarr 02-09-2007, 07:11 PM I interviewed 2/7 and got an acceptance today...and sending in the deposit. Anyone else definitely sending in a deposit?
if you are 100% sure of going to Touro-NY, you should start the "Official Touro-NY Class of 2011" Thread.
i would start it but it looks like i will end up in UNECOM!
good luck to your decision making process.
HousingDO 02-09-2007, 09:13 PM Yeah,
I interviewed on the 7th with you Lauren K and got the acceptance today as well. Love the quick turnaround. At this rate, we'll be DO's before the summer!
And for the Cali folk, come play in NY. Culture and arts at your fingertips in both places. In NY, you avoid the cost of gas and insurance of a car. Real Estate in Cali is even more pricey than NY from my research. And so we've blotted out the sun in NY. So what! Good weather only makes for poor students. Internalize your suffering and learn the bitterness of NY.
No, but seriously, rotation options are going to be incredible. Remember NYCOM has the most options of any DO school and Dr. Diamond was largely responsible for their success in that department. Due to the inclement weather, you'll see a much larger variety of conditions, ie. asthma and the weather travel together. And NY is the mecca of all sickness and disease in the US; you can't deny that.
We're a fellow blue state. We have more hospitals than just about any other state. You have a chance to be a part of history: the inaugural class of what I believe is the first urban-based osteopathic school in the US. We're expected to be the difference-making class that carries the flag with the message of Osteopathic Medicine to the greater public and brings it into the mainstream. I believe we're right at the front bringing DO marketshare to being on par with that of MD's over the next 20 years. Pioneers? Yes. Oh, and people in NY in general are way hotter. You just can't tell because they're all wearing big puffy coats and a frown.
alkapalka 02-09-2007, 09:15 PM heyyy everyone
i interviewed 2/7 and got my an acceptance e-mail today :clap:
...that was super fast
i don't know if im going b/c i have one acceptance already and an interview next week
:confused:
but CONGRATS to everyone that made it--i think it will end up being a great school
HousingDO 02-09-2007, 09:26 PM Also,
As far as suggestions go, in addition to starting the day later (which I cannot overstress), it would be great if Touro combined one of their other programs and created the option for us to get a combined degree, like a DO/MBA or DO/RD (registered clinical dietician) or even a DO/PhD for the truly nerdy and ambitious. And I want a full line of Touro brand clothing to improve school exposure.
clement 02-09-2007, 09:31 PM Yeah,
And NY is the mecca of all sickness and disease in the US; you can't deny that.
Oh, and people in NY in general are way hotter. You just can't tell because they're all wearing big puffy coats and a frown.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I have to say, I second the latter comment as well...Something about year-round flip-flops that doesn't do us too many favors. Add to that, DO students are generally hotter than MD students. Wasn't that a thead in and of itself? I recall something...Alright, now if only that tax refund would hurry itself up!!
Damn it, I'm getting worried, the hard copy of my acceptance letter has yet to arrive...I have 2 weeks from the date of...The letter?
Mr. Jess 02-09-2007, 09:51 PM I'm 99% sure about going to Touro-NY. It's good to know that I might have some fellow Californians with me!
clement -- if it makes you feel any better, I've been on the east coast for 2 years and have actually enjoyed it. I'll never say anything bad about California because I do love it, but I've really liked it out here too. I love the idea of not needing a car and I love the ethnic/racial/cultural diversity in New York.
Regardless, I'm anxious to see who's going to say "yes" to Touro-NY. I'm excited about being pioneers and having the opportunity to make an impact in the community. We definitely should start a "Touro-NY 2011 Matriculation" thread where we could start getting to know each other. Hmm ... Maybe I could do that?
clement 02-09-2007, 11:16 PM I'm 99% sure about going to Touro-NY. It's good to know that I might have some fellow Californians with me!
clement -- if it makes you feel any better, I've been on the east coast for 2 years and have actually enjoyed it. I'll never say anything bad about California because I do love it, but I've really liked it out here too. I love the idea of not needing a car and I love the ethnic/racial/cultural diversity in New York.
Regardless, I'm anxious to see who's going to say "yes" to Touro-NY. I'm excited about being pioneers and having the opportunity to make an impact in the community. We definitely should start a "Touro-NY 2011 Matriculation" thread where we could start getting to know each other. Hmm ... Maybe I could do that?
I think I'm at 95% right now...Hmm it's kind of just boiling down to my finances hehe...It's hard to part with the $2K I forked over for Touro-MI without giving the school fair consideration...Could have been my new lap top!!!!!! Dohhhh....
Anyway, that's why I need my tax refund to hurry up!!!
Well it's good to hear another Californian saying good things about the east coast...The usual case is that of the Californian who needed change, went there, froze their eyebrows off, and came back crying! Haha I seriously like cold weather, so this deal is 5% short of being sealed! I just wish it had been colder during my interview so I could have had a more realistic feel, I mean, it was in the 40s...It'd be perfect if I could transplant my family and maybe afford a place that will appreciate enough to at least pay part of my future debt!:meanie: I'm curious to see what area most people will chose to live in, I'm guessing we'll shack up near the Columbia kids.
Dr Kay 02-11-2007, 11:36 AM I just checked my e-mail this morning guys and I'm in, I interviewed on the 6th. Now all I have to do is find a local bank to rob, and I will be sending in my deposit:laugh:. I still have to make a decision:confused: , cause I have one more school I am waiting to hear from, but so far I am almost sold (75%). Come on clement, Mr Jess, and Gprotein Star. You know you want to go to New York. Make the decision.:D
wally223 02-11-2007, 11:52 AM anyone else out there using weather as a factor?:
I absolutely LOVE nyc. But having lived out there in the past...I still get chills thinking about the cold winters! This is definitley going to be a factor in my decision. The weather in cali is so much better, and there are also great opportunities be around/work with a diverse patient base in the bay area as well. The major difference: Bay weather is AMAZING and pretty consistent. New York summers are horrible and the winters are at times unbearable (for me at least)!!!
Anyone else have this dilemma? For those of you who have never lived in NYC, don't like cold weather, and are on the fence about Touro-NY: If diversity isn't that important to you, then new york is probably one of the worst places to live. Obviously this is subjective...but I grew up in the mid west where it can get pretty cold...just not as cold a NYC! But since I do think the diversity and culture in nyc is second to none...I can't decide.
One final note: Did anybody hear that Touro MI is spending like 500 mill to renovate/update the island? Another reason why cali might be pretty cool...
EastWestN2grt 02-11-2007, 03:26 PM Yeah,
I interviewed on the 7th with you Lauren K and got the acceptance today as well. Love the quick turnaround. At this rate, we'll be DO's before the summer!
And for the Cali folk, come play in NY. Culture and arts at your fingertips in both places. In NY, you avoid the cost of gas and insurance of a car. Real Estate in Cali is even more pricey than NY from my research. And so we've blotted out the sun in NY. So what! Good weather only makes for poor students. Internalize your suffering and learn the bitterness of NY.
No, but seriously, rotation options are going to be incredible. Remember NYCOM has the most options of any DO school and Dr. Diamond was largely responsible for their success in that department. Due to the inclement weather, you'll see a much larger variety of conditions, ie. asthma and the weather travel together. And NY is the mecca of all sickness and disease in the US; you can't deny that.
We're a fellow blue state. We have more hospitals than just about any other state. You have a chance to be a part of history: the inaugural class of what I believe is the first urban-based osteopathic school in the US. We're expected to be the difference-making class that carries the flag with the message of Osteopathic Medicine to the greater public and brings it into the mainstream. I believe we're right at the front bringing DO marketshare to being on par with that of MD's over the next 20 years. Pioneers? Yes. Oh, and people in NY in general are way hotter. You just can't tell because they're all wearing big puffy coats and a frown.
HousingDO, :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Im Sold!!
AS a westcoaster with my fingers crossed hoping to get into Tourocom(interview the 14th) i nominate you for class spokesperson!!
Im sure you did well selling real estate--are you sure you weren't an Apprentice :D
Krisss17 02-11-2007, 06:08 PM anyone else out there using weather as a factor?:
I absolutely LOVE nyc. But having lived out there in the past...I still get chills thinking about the cold winters! This is definitley going to be a factor in my decision. The weather in cali is so much better, and there are also great opportunities be around/work with a diverse patient base in the bay area as well. The major difference: Bay weather is AMAZING and pretty consistent. New York summers are horrible and the winters are at times unbearable (for me at least)!!!
Anyone else have this dilemma? For those of you who have never lived in NYC, don't like cold weather, and are on the fence about Touro-NY: If diversity isn't that important to you, then new york is probably one of the worst places to live. Obviously this is subjective...but I grew up in the mid west where it can get pretty cold...just not as cold a NYC! But since I do think the diversity and culture in nyc is second to none...I can't decide.
One final note: Did anybody hear that Touro MI is spending like 500 mill to renovate/update the island? Another reason why cali might be pretty cool...
Having also lived in NY for most of my life (live in FL now), the cold, gray skies of New York during January and February are the pits, once the spring comes you actually feel reborn. It is like the city is born again...you'll see the streets just explode with people...Central Park will be brimming with bicyclists, rollerbladers, joggers, dogwalkers...you name it!
While I moved to FL partly because of the weather, I realize that very few places have perfect weather year-round. Here in FL, from June 1st through Nov 30th, we are in Hurricane season...and the summers here are like the winters in the NE because if it is not raining, it is super humid and the sun isn't out as much as you'd think. The best time of year in Florida is usually late September through November, and then March thru May...and forget about change of seasons (i.e. fall, winter, spring and summer).
So all I can say is that don't turn down Tourocom-NY just because of the weather, there is just sooooo much more.
Krisss17
HousingDO 02-11-2007, 06:23 PM Ok,
I'd love to bring our concerns to the school. That said, the 2 weeks starts the day you receive the email, rather than when you get the hard copy, I'm told. They are NOT playing. They want us in or out NOW.
As an NY native who visited Cali for one 3-day weekend in my adult life, I too would have a hard time making the decision. I loved it out there. I would have flunked out of school though. I'm impressed you guys pulled off medical school with so many attractive outdoor options.
But so what if the weather's nice there? We won't have time to enjoy any of it anyway. The cold is kicks procrastination in the rear, let me tell you. Think of it this way: You'll be away on a scouts trip in the cold woods working for the top level merit badge. And sure, you could rub two sticks together right on your home doorstep and make fire, but then you run the risk of burning your house down. You see my point? Ok, lost control of that analogy...starting to understand what happened on my MCAT verbal. But come to NY anyway. We'll be pioneers and stuff. And that's wicked cool.
On the real estate side, I've got a couple of neighborhoods worked out, all depending on how much people want to spend. Again, I recommend the buy vs rent option because we know we're going to be there for at least 4 years. Few renters can say that. And as outrageous as some of the prices may seem, believe it or not, they are continually climbing. I bought a 1br coop in Fort Greene in Brooklyn, 2 blocks from where the new Nets arena will be erected (hey, I said erected) for $295K in March, 2006 and its appraisal value as of yesterday was $415K. It's been 10 friggin' months. Mind you, I bought the place strategically so I expected this, but by 2010 when the arena is actually up, it'll be $600K on the low end.
In NYC, any apt should be a lock to appreciate a minimum of $25K per year in the most stagnant neighborhoods, which Harlem is not. That's a cool $100K + modest principal paid over 4 years in cash when selling. That should put a dent in loans. And if anyone out there is feeling particularly ambitious investment-wise, let me know. There are a smart options that can set you up so you get your apartment unit cost free when your done. These are much more involved though.
Anyway, timeline. Make sure to start actually viewing places at least 4 months before orientation because it could take as long as 3 months to close. If looking to rent, it's better to do it earlier. You're better off paying an extra months rent than having to stay in a hotel for a week until your new place is vacant. (Crunch the numbers, 7 days of hotel-very expensive). But don't waste your time chasing apartments today unless you're looking to move to NY earlier. Wait 2 months if looking to buy and just contact me and/or keep your ear to the ground for rentals.
clement 02-11-2007, 06:50 PM HousingDO, :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Im Sold!!
AS a westcoaster with my fingers crossed hoping to get into Tourocom(interview the 14th) i nominate you for class spokesperson!!
Im sure you did well selling real estate--are you sure you weren't an Apprentice :D
I second that spokesperson vote:laugh: I could have sworn I met someone like HousingDO at my interview, but I was in the earlier batches!
As for Wally, well as a native (southern) californian, I might be a complete odd-ball, but I loved the cold weather change and having seasons (yea, that's what I say NOW)...Though I will admit, it was in the high 30s or so when I interviewed!!! Not too bad...The big seller for me is population density AND diversity...Yes, we have diversity in big cities in Cali, but we're so spread out...Other than SF, big cities here just feel like suburb-hybrids. And to live in SF...Well, isn't it the most expensive city in the US right now?
And heck, the bad winter weather (and yes I heard it's like 40 degrees colder than it was when I interviewed 2 weeks ago :laugh: ) will encourage us to stay in and study! We'll have our bonfire in the middle of 125th with marshmellows and the whole she-bang! It'll be great...Obed will read us stories. Dr. Diamond will crack jokes (the staff seemed soo upbeat and frank, I kinda liked that). During my interview, the pathologist asking me questions was so excited about the different types of microbes and worms he's seen in NYC, stuff he'd never seen elsewhere!(it was soo cute!).
One thing about the CA campus is that it's not IN the city (of SF), it's 40 mins away in the 'burbs...As a SoCal weather snob, I personally don't think the Bay Area has GREAT weather , but better than NYC and the midwest, I
will give it that (SF itself is pretty windy and London fog-esque quite often, Vallejo is a bit warmer from what they tell me)...Yes, I had heard about the island developing, but that probably won't reach the levels it could reach until we're at least 3rd or 4th years....I guess the same could be said about Harlem being the next "SOHO"....
Anyway, TourCOM-NY has got me wanting to sign up! I hope I make my decision based on all the right factors.
girlsporty 02-12-2007, 06:20 AM Wow! I submitted my primary a while ago, and expect the secondary this month or so. As of right now, I've been accepted to NYCOM and will interview at Western, but my family is in Brooklyn, NY. (YO! Brooklyn.) Harlem is easier to get to than Lawn Guyland.
I'm writing though, because everyone's enthusiasm about Touro-Harlem definitely gives it an advantage in my mind over NYCOM. With such eager students it will be a great class! :luck:
paramba 02-12-2007, 01:41 PM just sent in my deposit today any one else def going ?
NJDO01 02-13-2007, 03:01 PM Just got the good news today. I will definitely be going I will be sending my deposit in tomm. Its kinda weird though the email acceptance letter just says "student name" on it, It doesnt say my name hopefully they didnt make any mistake or anything like that.
liveforareason 02-13-2007, 06:18 PM Just got the good news today. I will definitely be going I will be sending my deposit in tomm. Its kinda weird though the email acceptance letter just says "student name" on it, It doesnt say my name hopefully they didnt make any mistake or anything like that.
congrats! Where in nj are you from? Will you be commuting in? I still haven't been accepted, but I'll have to contemplate whether or not to commute and save lots of $$$
DrVanNostran 02-13-2007, 06:31 PM Grats to everyone who got in:)
The pictures of this place look awesome. The fact that it's in Harlem seems to be really cool since there will be a divere patient population. When you were there, did they talk about the clinical years in depth?
I might apply here this year and see if I get lucky:)
NJDO01 02-13-2007, 06:54 PM congrats! Where in nj are you from? Will you be commuting in? I still haven't been accepted, but I'll have to contemplate whether or not to commute and save lots of $$$
Im from Bergenfield about 10 minutes away from the GW Bridge. I am not sure if I am going to commute yet since traffic in the morning is horrible.
TerpDO 02-13-2007, 08:58 PM Congrats NJDO01, I think we interviewed together and I sat next to you at "the table." Anyways it sounds like you are definitely enrolling at Touro-NYC so if I end up there next year it will be good to see a familiar face. Currently it is my top choice but I can't say for sure if I will be going there for a little bit longer. I am definitely excited for the Fall though and if I go I can't wait to experience all the ups and downs of living in the Big Apple! Oh and if you want any opinion you should definitely live closer to the school and not commute. You will have a better time because you will be closer to classmates and can hang out with others after school, also the long commute will drain you physically and you won't have as much stamina to study enough if the going gets tough, and from what we heard it very well may. Anyways good luck deciding and enjoy the next few precious months!
arsenewenger 02-13-2007, 09:12 PM sorry, i do not intend to irritate anybody but why would anyone want to go to a med school with no reputation?
clement 02-13-2007, 09:37 PM sorry, i do not intend to irritate anybody but why would anyone want to go to a med school with no reputation?
well, i can't speak for everyone, but here is a partial list of why the school interested me:
1) location: the city is your clinic. unrivaled demographic variation and population/hospital density sets the ground for vast exposure...what more could a med student ask for?
2) program focus: urban/community medicine in an urban setting sets a strong social focus...what more could a med student ask for?
3) rotations: all to be completed in nyc
4) facilities: everything BRAND new, state-of-the-art anatomy and omm labs will be like that of touro-nv but even more tech-savvy
5)administration: in particular, the face of the school, Dr. Martin Diamond (Dean) is a well-known physician and important academic figure in both nyc and the state of ny in terms of positions held (to name a few, Associate Dean/Clinical Associate Prof. Advocacy & Professional Relations NYCOM, President of NY State Osteopathic Medical Society, etc), SET UP plenty of nycom's rotations and programs. hey, extremely well-established individual who no doubt upholds the reputation of the school in and of himself. if you plan on staying in NYC in the long run, you're good to go.
6)first class perks: as the first class, you are the face and therefore impression that the school makes for future classes...that in turn gives you A LOT of leverage in terms of them listening to what you want to see (i would go so far as to say this extends to curriculum, length of school days, etc etc etc). lots of room to mold things out. they've already asked us point blank what it is we want. i think we may get spoiled...
7) affiliations: touro network. this is touro's 3rd med school (not to mention a fourth md school coming up in jersey), a growing list of affiliated hospitals on both coasts, and has learned from its mistakes as well (in terms of the other 2 schools). this one will have its kinks, but i don't anticipate anything major.
8) i don't need to have a car, car payments, insurance and/or tickets
9) in my humble opinion, the school's position as "harlem's med school" (esp given the attn it has generated and will continue to generate) has the superb potential to pioneer extending the DO name (as far as avg joe is concerned). to be part of this first class is esp meaningful...
every med school has had its first class. maybe i'm naive, but i haven't read any major disaster stories. work hard and you'll be fine. i'm one of those who really buys that argument.
Cheers!
DrVanNostran 02-13-2007, 10:17 PM well, i can't speak for everyone, but here is a partial list of why the school interested me:
1) location: the city is your clinic. unrivaled demographic variation and population/hospital density sets the ground for vast exposure...what more could a med student ask for?
2) program focus: urban/community medicine in an urban setting sets a strong social focus...what more could a med student ask for?
3) rotations: all to be completed in nyc
4) facilities: everything BRAND new, state-of-the-art anatomy and omm labs will be like that of touro-nv but even more tech-savy
5)administration: dean is a well-known physician and important academic figure in both nyc and the state of ny in terms of positions held (Associate Dean/Clinical Associate Prof Advocacy & Professional Relations NYCOM, President of NY State Osteopathic Medical Society, etc), set up plenty of nycom rotations and programs. hey, extremely well-connected individual who no doubt upholds the reputation of the school in and of himself.
6)first class perks: as the first class, you are the face and therefore impression that the school makes for future classes...that in turn gives you A LOT of leverage in terms of them listening to what you want to see (i would go so far as to say this extends to curriculum, length of school days, etc etc etc). lots of room to mold things out.
7) affiliations: touro network. this is touro's 3rd med school (not to mention a fourth md school coming up in jersey), a growing list of affiliated hospitals on both coasts, and has learned from it's mistakes as well (in terms of the other 2 schools). this one will have its kinks, but i don't anticipate anything major.
8) i don't need to have a car, car payments, insurance and/or tickets
You sir, have convinced me. Touro-NY is definitely moving very high on my lists of desirable schools.
clement 02-13-2007, 10:28 PM You sir, have convinced me. Touro-NY is definitely moving very high on my lists of desirable schools.
Always happy to help :D Actually, I'm glad he or she asked, I needed to make myself a list!
DOhopefulKT 02-13-2007, 10:41 PM After your application was complete, how long did it take to get an interview? Was there alot of advance notice before the actual date or were you given the interview invite right before the interview?
clement 02-13-2007, 10:56 PM After your application was complete, how long did it take to get an interview? Was there alot of advance notice before the actual date or were you given the interview invite right before the interview?
~10 days ...Then I was given about 2 weeks before the actual interview day...but keep in mind i applied on the first day you could designate them on aacomas, and was part of the first few interview batches...things have slowed down since then, so give it slightly more time.
DrVanNostran 02-13-2007, 11:00 PM ~10 days ...Then I was given about 2 weeks before the actual interview day...but keep in mind i applied on the first day you could designate them on aacomas, and was part of the first few interview batches...things have slowed down since then, so give it slightly more time.
I myself and basically in a chaotic stage. I might submit my aacomas tonight just for Western and Touro. Damn the confusion of this stage:)
So are you pretty sure on going to New York?
Dr.Inviz 02-13-2007, 11:29 PM damn Touro is quick!! i interviewed tuesday and just got an e-mail saying i got in too . . . and the decision making begins . . . .:confused:
They have to be quick ... they started so freakin late :laugh:
atleast theyre screening for quality students though .. 24+ MCAT right? niicee ... (no sarcasm here folks :meanie: )
clement 02-13-2007, 11:33 PM I myself and basically in a chaotic stage. I might submit my aacomas tonight just for Western and Touro. Damn the confusion of this stage:)
So are you pretty sure on going to New York?
if only that irs refund would hurry itself up!
DrVanNostran 02-13-2007, 11:36 PM if only that irs refund would hurry itself up!
:laugh: its 2k for the deposit right? If DO schools didnt have such ridiculous deposit amounts they would get more applicants lol.
Med school in Manhattan...sounds like a dream to me
NJDO01 02-14-2007, 07:02 AM Congrats NJDO01, I think we interviewed together and I sat next to you at "the table." Anyways it sounds like you are definitely enrolling at Touro-NYC so if I end up there next year it will be good to see a familiar face. Currently it is my top choice but I can't say for sure if I will be going there for a little bit longer. I am definitely excited for the Fall though and if I go I can't wait to experience all the ups and downs of living in the Big Apple! Oh and if you want any opinion you should definitely live closer to the school and not commute. You will have a better time because you will be closer to classmates and can hang out with others after school, also the long commute will drain you physically and you won't have as much stamina to study enough if the going gets tough, and from what we heard it very well may. Anyways good luck deciding and enjoy the next few precious months!
Yeah I remember you I think we shared the same taxi when we went to North General Hospital. I will most likely not commute for pretty much all the reasons you pointed out. I hope to see you in the fall.
Dr Kay 02-14-2007, 10:51 AM if only that irs refund would hurry itself up!
you should definetly give obed a call, and explain your situation, I personally can't make that 2k within 14days, I gave him a call, I believe he spoke to the dean, and they are looking at an option for students who to make half of the payement, and the other half within a week.
lateapplicant 02-15-2007, 11:23 PM Just wondering if anyone applied later in the cycle who has been accepted? Can anyone let me know the turn around time between secondaries and interviews if acceptance emails are going out 2-5 days after the interviews? TOURONY is my first choice and I'm feeding off everyone's excitement... need to get accepted first.
ajg3456 02-16-2007, 01:05 PM I got an offer for an interview about 10 days after sending in my secondary
theshem244 02-17-2007, 04:58 AM Hi guys. I interviewed at TOURO-NY on Feb 13th. Now I have been reading that people had received acceptance e-mails in 2 days! or Friday of the interview. Now reading that makes me feel a little uneasy and nervous all over again!! lol So I have not heard anything yet, and I was wondering on average how long did it take to receive an e-mail from Touro, they said 2 weeks, but it looks like they tend to do this faster than that.
Also all week i was re-running the interview in my head and just picked out areas where i had better answers or better examples than the ones i had said during the interview. This was my first interview, so I am a little nervous in that aspect. Is it normal to feel that your interview could have gone better, b/c i was expecting them to grill me, rather I was the one talking a lot, so is that what they wanted? And it seemed like my interview went on longer than the other candidates? How does that reflect upon me, maybe i talk to much? I don't know I'm a mess right now lol. Thanks
NJDO01 02-17-2007, 12:08 PM Hi guys. I interviewed at TOURO-NY on Feb 13th. Now I have been reading that people had received acceptance e-mails in 2 days! or Friday of the interview. Now reading that makes me feel a little uneasy and nervous all over again!! lol So I have not heard anything yet, and I was wondering on average how long did it take to receive an e-mail from Touro, they said 2 weeks, but it looks like they tend to do this faster than that.
Also all week i was re-running the interview in my head and just picked out areas where i had better answers or better examples than the ones i had said during the interview. This was my first interview, so I am a little nervous in that aspect. Is it normal to feel that your interview could have gone better, b/c i was expecting them to grill me, rather I was the one talking a lot, so is that what they wanted? And it seemed like my interview went on longer than the other candidates? How does that reflect upon me, maybe i talk to much? I don't know I'm a mess right now lol. Thanks
Just be patient. The same thing happen to me, I didn't get an email until a week later. You have to remember too that they have a lot more applications to go over now. Just hang in there.
sortagrownup 02-17-2007, 12:20 PM Very quick question: In order to be offered an interview, do they have to have your pre-professional committee letter on hand already? Or can you get an interview if they already have everything except your committee letter that has yet to come in?
'Cause I've been very good at sending all the stuff in pretty early. But my advisor needs some poking (actually, a lot sometimes ... I understand that he gets quite busy and I'm not the only pre-med student he's helping) to get my letters out. I just want to know if my promptness can cancel out my advisor's lack-of.
EDIT: Oh, and two more questions -- (1) how many interview batches have they conducted, and (2) what's their projected class size, i.e., how many acceptances are they going to send out?
NJDO01 02-17-2007, 12:33 PM Very quick question: In order to be offered an interview, do they have to have your pre-professional committee letter on hand already? Or can you get an interview if they already have everything except your committee letter that has yet to come in?
'Cause I've been very good at sending all the stuff in pretty early. But my advisor needs some poking (actually, a lot sometimes ... I understand that he gets quite busy and I'm not the only pre-med student he's helping) to get my letters out. I just want to know if my promptness can cancel out my advisor's lack-of.
EDIT: Oh, and two more questions -- (1) how many interview batches have they conducted, and (2) what's their projected class size, i.e., how many acceptances are they going to send out?
1) Im not sure about the committee LOR you should call them for that
2) they interview 3x a week with 9 people per group and they started the interviews on the week of jan 28
3) 125
Hope those help
Onstarr 02-17-2007, 01:35 PM Another spot for y'all.
I declined their offer. Good luck guys.
L8TAppHope2GtIn 02-17-2007, 01:44 PM Another spot for y'all.
I declined their offer. Good luck guys.
Hey Onstarr, if you dont mind, what were your stats, and what schools did you apply to, why did you turn down touro-ny?
billydoc 02-17-2007, 03:05 PM Hey guys!
Need your advice. Do you think there will be spots open as late as in the beginning of May. Touro is the only school I've applied to. I also did most of my undergrad in Touro, NY few years ago. I believe my application is quiet competative with lots of years of clinical experience. But I don't have the MCAT yet. I know offitially it says deadline JUNE 1st, but c'mon....is it realistic that class of only 125 won't be filled until then? I really want to go in 2007, but entered the process very late. I'm already an older applicant. Please give some pointers.
Congrats to all of you holding your acceptance letters...the very subject of my envy :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Thanks
DrVanNostran 02-17-2007, 03:34 PM Hey guys!
Need your advice. Do you think there will be spots open as late as in the beginning of May. Touro is the only school I've applied to. I also did most of my undergrad in Touro, NY few years ago. I believe my application is quiet competative with lots of years of clinical experience. But I don't have the MCAT yet. I know offitially it says deadline JUNE 1st, but c'mon....is it realistic that class of only 125 won't be filled until then? I really want to go in 2007, but entered the process very late. I'm already an older applicant. Please give some pointers.
Congrats to all of you holding your acceptance letters...the very subject of my envy :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Thanks
If you call them and ask, they might actually give you a number or percentage. Good luck.
Shuevee 02-17-2007, 03:46 PM Very quick question: In order to be offered an interview, do they have to have your pre-professional committee letter on hand already? Or can you get an interview if they already have everything except your committee letter that has yet to come in?
'Cause I've been very good at sending all the stuff in pretty early. But my advisor needs some poking (actually, a lot sometimes ... I understand that he gets quite busy and I'm not the only pre-med student he's helping) to get my letters out. I just want to know if my promptness can cancel out my advisor's lack-of.
I believe a committee letter is one of the requirements in applying. Every school I interviewed at made sure the candidates LOR's and committe letter were on file. But you can call or email Obed and explain your situation.
Onstarr 02-17-2007, 04:06 PM Hey Onstarr, if you dont mind, what were your stats, and what schools did you apply to, why did you turn down touro-ny?
The decision was very difficult. I received letters of acceptance to UNECOM and Touro-NY on the same day (few hours apart, snail mail/email respectively). In one hand I would be in a major city with tons of diversity, and the other the complete opposite in a very quiet small area. My stats were as follows: 3.6 gpa, 27 mcat, bioengineering major, hep c research, poster presenter, numerous hosp exp, calc/phys tutor, nutrition&chemistry TA, all that good stuffetc
Touro had almost everything going for me. The location w/ tons of respectable hospitals nearby, first graduating class, family & friends already in NY. (I lived in NY for the last 15 years).. However one thing was bothering me. UNE's program was Established & Touro-NY not. (I did consider that Touro had other Touros CA/NV but they all seemed like they were seperate entities bc one was Touro University, this one is Touro College.. etc. Obed did say that TouroNy will follow NV's curriculm.) Another dilemma was that I was accepted and the school requested a $2000 deposit within 14days. This is standard procedure for most schools but because this school/program is so new, I didn't even get to see the actual school itself besides the architectural rendering. $2000 can be thought as an INVESTMENT but $2Gs is not easy money to come by either. I am not well off financially and did not want to waste the money if i was not going to enroll at the school. So yes my decision to turn down Touro was indeed in a rush.
Also although Dr. Diamond & faculty reassured that we will not have trouble getting clinicals/residency placements, I was not willing to take the risk. NYC has so many medical schools in the area and I wasn't sure if we would be competing over spots with other med students... There were so many questions I could not answer just due to the fact that this was a new program & i was just not comfortable risking my future with chance. I am sure Touro will be a great school but I was not ready to put down a $2000 deposit in a rush like this.
UNE is a very smaller school (class size 120) where i thought I would be a better student. 3-4people/cadaveur, more older students (avg age was like 27, 28), friendly/family environment (even the school president remembered alumni from 20 years ago.. those who were there at the interview w/ me knows what i am talkin about) , for 3rd/4th year clinicals are in different states so I can travel to various locations. Seems like everyone ended up w/ good residencies. Cheaper cost of living than NY. Oh, great note taking service as well.. and importantly, the alumni & current students loved the school. For recreational activities, i can only assume it is no where near exciting as what NYC can offer but... : UNE is actually ON the beach!, i love to snowboard and the mountains are not too far away, and boston 1.5hrs away. Cons: the diversity I was looking for was not present.. however pros overweigh the cons . .OK I am just rambling now.. I dunno...I just had a better vibe at UNE. And I felt more secure only bc the school & its program was already well established - initial mistakes fixed and just fine tuning now..
In the end it came down to this. Education wise, I thought both schools were excellent choice probably almost @ the same level. Fun factor - Touro, only bc NYC has sooooooo much to offer. But like i stated above, i thought I would be a better student to UNE because of the environment itself, traquil, quiet maine area... It is just me but I prefer rural areas to study and urban areas to party... Touro, being a city school didnt seem right for me. (i did rush into making this decision.. who knows i might regret it later on... from every prospective student for touro i spoke to, they all seemed very chill.. it looks like touro is gonna have a very fun group.. im probably missing out big time.)
hope this mumbo jumbo helps somebody.. :laugh:
clement 02-17-2007, 06:47 PM Also although Dr. Diamond & faculty reassured that we will not have trouble getting clinicals/residency placements, I was not willing to take the risk. NYC has so many medical schools in the area and I wasn't sure if we would be competing over spots with other med students... There were so many questions I could not answer just due to the fact that this was a new program & i was just not comfortable risking my future with chance. I am sure Touro will be a great school but I was not ready to put down a $2000 deposit in a rush like this.
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Congrats on making a decision! I'm sure it's a much better feeling than having a FEW $2000 deposits down! Hahah but I guess I justify it with, "in the end I'll be so far in debt that $2K won't weigh much over making the choice that's right for me"...But yea, that could have been my new lap top dang it!
Well, in your quote above, you raise one of the points that I considered in deciding...Competitive nature of clinicals/residencies in NYC...Wondering what other people's thoughts on this were, as the paradox for me is this: One of the school's main focuses is the SHORTAGE of physicians in NYC's urban areas. My cousins who are finishing up residencies via Cornell and Columbia, claim that in fact urban NYC hospitals depend heavily on rotating students and residents (i.e. they were telling me to get ready for longer hours and more work as well).
On the other hand, it did occur to me that students from Columbia, NYU, Cornell and to an extent NYCOM, would be rotating and doing residencies in the area (granted, some people won't stick around for NYC residencies once family time kicks in...I know my cousin is moving back to Cali now that he has 2 kids)...
It gives me confidence to know that Dr. Diamond played a big part in setting up NYCOM's rotations and that his connections to hospitals is a solid one. In fact, during our interview he made a point to say that our rotations "would not be interfering with NYCOM's"....A big bonus for me is having all rotations in the city. Though there was a person who saw the list of hospitals and said some might be trickier to access via subway (but I think this list was tentative).
Anyhow, I think if you're set on doing your residency in NYC, you can't go wrong. If not, then you may have other factors to think about (though yes, even with the Touro schools being separate entitities, if you want to do a rotation/residency in NV or CA, the hospitals WILL know the Touro name, and I believe I read something about us being able to do rotations at all affiliated hospitals at my Mare Island interview).
I wonder if anyone has any insight as to the number of med students/residents in NYC relative to hospital density (which everyone seems to acknowledge is simply incredible, and as far as the school states, there is a shortage of urban physicians!).
I guess another point might be, does clinical/residency competitiveness become an issue in NYC as far as *nicer* hospitals (which I believe are mostly in the 'burbs?)? I know some Columbia kids talk about the *trenchier* hospitals of NYC where they rotate/complete residencies (according to my cousin, this is obviously where the need is greatest, and where almost any NYC med student should be prepared to rotate through...He's doing an EM residency and has seen more than one infant with gunshot wounds in his day).
Onstarr 02-17-2007, 07:14 PM (according to my cousin, this is obviously where the need is greatest, and where almost any NYC med student should be prepared to rotate through...He's doing an EM residency and has seen more than one infant with gunshot wounds in his day).
:eek: thats.. awesome? (and not awesome obviously at the same time.)
clement 02-17-2007, 08:29 PM :eek: thats.. awesome? (and not awesome obviously at the same time.)
IMO few cities compare to NYC for the EM enthusiast, but then again, I think that could apply to most specialties! He's extremely happy with EM, though the fact that they work less hours than most residents to compensate for intensity speaks for itself.
Boots229 02-18-2007, 11:58 AM Does anyone know when the school year begins? I can't seem to find an academic calendar on the Touro-MI or Touro-NV sites to get an idea.
Onstarr 02-18-2007, 01:33 PM correct me if im wrong but i believe touro-ny starts in sept 1st.
jpatzi 02-20-2007, 06:54 AM Did anyone else feel a little uneasy about their interview on 2/14? Being closed file, I was expecting a lot of personal questions, but I was not asked any. I was asked only about health policy and procedures. They also wanted me to discuss OMM, which is a course you take all 4 years in school. I thought my interview was somewhat unfair and my panel didnt seem to interested in what I had to say. I am so scared that because of my interview I will not get in and this school is one of my top choices. I know the dean makes the final decisions, so I am praying that he likes my application and credentials. Any thoughts???
-Wisconsin
Mama3Doc 02-20-2007, 07:35 AM I felt a little unesay about the interview also....but then I remembered that Mr.Figueroa said that thay are trying to get a "feel" for waht kind of people we are.....I hope that we hear soon, I am so nervous, this is my top school!
New Jersey
ajg3456 02-21-2007, 01:03 PM I also interviewed on the 14th (Amanda from Cincinnati with the horrible cold...still not quite over it). I thought the guys I interviewed with were very nice. I wish I could remember their names. I think they were just trying to see that we are capable of carrying on a conversation. I didn't feel too worried about it. Although, I hope I didn't give them my cold and now they hate me. I wish they'd hurry it up with the response, though. I don't ahve any acceptances yet (made the alternate list at LECOM Bradenton) and TOURO is definitely my first choice. Good luck everyone!
ajg3456 02-21-2007, 01:03 PM I also interviewed on the 14th (Amanda from Cincinnati with the horrible cold...still not quite over it). I thought the guys I interviewed with were very nice. I wish I could remember their names. I think they were just trying to see that we are capable of carrying on a conversation. I didn't feel too worried about it. Although, I hope I didn't give them my cold and now they hate me. I wish they'd hurry it up with the response, though. I don't ahve any acceptances yet (made the alternate list at LECOM Bradenton) and TOURO is definitely my first choice. Good luck everyone!
lala83 02-21-2007, 03:38 PM i'm also on the alternate list at bradenton and am 'on hold' post-interview at tourony. they want me to retake the mcat in april and send in scores asap to get further consideration this application cycle.
lovely.
Drtom79 02-21-2007, 03:41 PM hey lala...when did you interview at Touro???
lala83 02-21-2007, 03:49 PM i interviewed on their second day, jan. 30.
HousingDO 02-21-2007, 05:50 PM Well,
When I interviewed, the feeling I got was that they wanted to find one non-statistical, compelling reason from you why you were a good fit for Osteopathic medicine. It could have been that you believe in the holistic approach, that you believe in OMM, that you had a great experience with a DO and believe in its principles or that you've always known you wanted to be a doctor.
I think what they really were looking for is why will you be a great doctor, an asset to the profession, your patients and the reputation of DO's. If you could give them that without starting with, "I would be a great DO because...," then you were fine.
For anyone who has not yet interviewed (although this may be the wrong thread for this), consider this in your answers. And take charge a little. That's what I did. They asked a shorter answer question that was not what I wanted to talk about, I briefly, but completely answered the question and then used my time with the mic to convey about myself what I thought would be important to them. And I had to because my stats flat out suck. I've got a lot more in my head than I've been able to put down on paper and letting them know that is everything.
And make the decision to be relaxed, win or lose. Because we also have practicals now, it's even more important to enroll students who don't crack under pressure verbally. Be lightly charming and have an opinion, a cause, a pet-peeve or something that you want to address. You don't have to use it in the interview, but have it in your back pocket. They want to know the problems out there that you want to fix.
This isn't the end-all in interview advice, but I think it's relevant and can help overcome statistical deficiencies. They want a little passion for the industry. They want to meet the spirit and attitude of a competent physician right now. And they just want to provide the info and training. When I was in there I talked about the effects of emotional distress on the immune system and the importance of the old-school doctors in a community that really knew their patients and offered some measure of assistance in all of those areas. We had a cool discussion and it ate up time that I'm sure they would have used to grill me on trivia about the Osteopathic profession or would have asked me why my grades indicate that I'm mildly retarded.
lala83 02-21-2007, 09:36 PM surprisingly, i thought i did do all of those things during my interview. mine seemed to last for a lot longer than the allotted time, and one of the interviewers even told me that i seemed to be really confident in what i wanted to do. so i felt like of all the schools i've interviewed at, i performed my personal best during this interview. it started out with a lot of direct questions being thrown at me, but by the end it turned very conversational and both interviewers were cracking jokes. ultimately though, i think it just came down to not having a strong enough gpa to counter my mcat score. the school is definitely focused on numbers, so it's not all about expressing competency and passion. i can't blame them though, b/c after all, they do need their first class to perform extremely well to be credible.
amathew 02-22-2007, 06:12 AM hey lala, if you don't mind me asking...what were your stats (you could pm me if you'd like) I have an interview coming up next week with Touro, and I myself don't have the most amazing numbers, but definitely a passion for medicine. And what were these direct questions that you guys were asked. This is my first invite, so I am both relieved and stressed out beyond belief...didn't think it was possible. Especially after the little lecture I received from my parents when they saw the rejection mail from temple yesterday, I don't want to screw up the one chance I have to make it to med school :scared:
Dr Kay 02-22-2007, 10:39 AM i'm also on the alternate list at bradenton and am 'on hold' post-interview at tourony. they want me to retake the mcat in april and send in scores asap to get further consideration this application cycle.
lovely.
"On Hold" Post interview :scared: UH, what does that mean is that like being waitlisted? and are you planning on re-taking the MCAT?
aprinceb 02-22-2007, 10:52 AM i'm also on the alternate list at bradenton and am 'on hold' post-interview at tourony. they want me to retake the mcat in april and send in scores asap to get further consideration this application cycle.
lovely.
"on hold after interview because of your mcats?" To me that sounds weird because they already knew your mcats/gpa before they sent you secondary & interview notice and collected the $200 fee (tourony)/and your time to go interview there...
clement 02-22-2007, 12:45 PM "on hold after interview because of your mcats?" To me that sounds weird because they already knew your mcats/gpa before they sent you secondary & interview notice and collected the $200 fee (tourony)/and your time to go interview there...
you have a point. however, and not to be rude in the least, in terms of public relations, no school would ever say (to my knowledge),
"well, your interview didn't impress us enough to overlook the weaknesses of your application" either... plenty of schools interview people and waitlist or put them on hold. nothing weird about that-
it means the rest of your application impressed them enough to request an interview. with a higher mcat/gpa combo your chances increase if the interview goes *well.*
there are people who paid the $200 and haven't interviewed.
lala83 02-22-2007, 01:06 PM i'm not waitlisted, i'm on hold, which means they will only give my app further consideration if i take the mcat. and yes, i am intending on taking the mcat and hope i can increase my score & still have a chance! i guess like clement said, they liked other things in my app, and just want me to strengthen this one thing. i'm fortunate that they did overlook a lower mcat and still gave me a chance to interview and improve.
Dr Kay 02-22-2007, 04:04 PM i'm not waitlisted, i'm on hold, which means they will only give my app further consideration if i take the mcat. and yes, i am intending on taking the mcat and hope i can increase my score & still have a chance! i guess like clement said, they liked other things in my app, and just want me to strengthen this one thing. i'm fortunate that they did overlook a lower mcat and still gave me a chance to interview and improve.
Well I wish you the best, I'm sure you will do well on the M-CAT, and I look forward to the opportunity to see you in harlem, if you decide to come. best of luck:luck: :luck: .
aprinceb 02-22-2007, 09:16 PM you have a point. however, and not to be rude in the least, in terms of public relations, no school would ever say (to my knowledge),
"well, your interview didn't impress us enough to overlook the weaknesses of your application" either... plenty of schools interview people and waitlist or put them on hold. nothing weird about that-
it means the rest of your application impressed them enough to request an interview. with a higher mcat/gpa combo your chances increase if the interview goes *well.*
there are people who paid the $200 and haven't interviewed.
I did not mean to offend anyone, esp lala83, i had a interview there earlier in the week, and since Mr. Figueroa said everyone was pre-screened prior to the interview and were given recommendations prior to interview, i didnt know they gave recommendations post interview too. lala83, goodluck with the mcats and future applications, im sure you will be fine.
theshem244 02-23-2007, 12:50 PM ACCEPTED!!!!! I just checked my e-mail a minute ago!!! I also 3x checked it to make sure i wasn't seeing things. I got in! I'm going to be a doctor and work in NYC!!! :D I can't wait!! Wow i'm about to cry..... lol ok im good.... :P
confL 02-23-2007, 01:08 PM Just recieved the email still in shock and euphoria!!!!! I'm in I'm going to be a Dr!
NJDO01 02-23-2007, 01:10 PM ACCEPTED!!!!! I just checked my e-mail a minute ago!!! I also 3x checked it to make sure i wasn't seeing things. I got in! I'm going to be a doctor and work in NYC!!! :D I can't wait!! Wow i'm about to cry..... lol ok im good.... :P
Congrats to a fellow North Jerseyian are you planning on going?
theshem244 02-23-2007, 01:21 PM Congrats to a fellow North Jerseyian are you planning on going?
Yes I am!!
EastWestN2grt 02-24-2007, 09:10 AM Another Californian on my way to the City!!:thumbup: :thumbup: :D
jpatzi 02-24-2007, 09:18 AM OMG, I am also accepted. I can't believe after all the hard work, I am going to be a doctor. Someone pinch me, I'm dreaming. Wisconsin is on his way to the Big Apple.
doc1228 02-24-2007, 11:25 AM I'm in. Interviewed on Feb 20th:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Shuevee 02-24-2007, 11:48 AM I'm in. Interviewed on Feb 20th:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Congrats to everyone! I'll be seeing you all there.
EastWestN2grt 02-24-2007, 02:02 PM OMG, I am also accepted. I can't believe after all the hard work, I am going to be a doctor. Someone pinch me, I'm dreaming. Wisconsin is on his way to the Big Apple.
Are you the Wisconsin'ite most recently from Florida? Minus jacket or anything warm on the day of the ICe Storm(2/14).....
HousingDO 02-24-2007, 03:38 PM To all of you recently accepted, Congratulations! It's a explosive feeling at first, hunh!? Enjoy it!
VYTillIDie 02-24-2007, 09:27 PM Good LORD! Anyone make an estimate yet on just how many people have committed yet on SDN alone? I haven't even interviewed yet and it looks like the class is filling up really fast! Congratulations to everyone who's been accepted so far...I get chills just reading the posts!
139230 02-25-2007, 10:52 AM I interview this Wednesday (2-28). I will be in NY staying at the Wellington starting Tuesday the 27th.
Anyone else have an interview on the 28th?!?!
Congrats to all who have been accepted. I hope to join you soon!!!
jpatzi 02-25-2007, 04:20 PM Are you the Wisconsin'ite most recently from Florida? Minus jacket or anything warm on the day of the ICe Storm(2/14).....
That is me, and who may this be????
EastWestN2grt 02-25-2007, 07:31 PM That is me, and who may this be????
Guy from Cali, rode to North General in the taxi with u. I was commenting on ur lack of coldweathergear!
Guess we will be classmates! My $2000 will be in the mail tomorrow.
Congrats...
VYTillIDie 02-25-2007, 08:51 PM Padunty-
When did Touro receive your secondary, when did you get the email?
GatorDoc 02-26-2007, 06:58 AM Hey, just have a question...
In an email Ms. Copeland said that she will sign me up for the March 6th interview list and that I will be receiving a confirmation... i havent received one yet... did everyone get a confirmation email and if so, should i be worried?
thanks
KingN 02-26-2007, 07:07 AM Well yes you should make sure you get a confirmation. I wouldn't be worried I would just call her and let her know you haven't gotten one yet. Everybody is really cool there so don't hesitate to call. Good luck!
Hey, just have a question...
In an email Ms. Copeland said that she will sign me up for the March 6th interview list and that I will be receiving a confirmation... i havent received one yet... did everyone get a confirmation email and if so, should i be worried?
thanks
bananayumboat 02-26-2007, 08:29 AM [QUOTE=clement;4704720]Hey Guys,
Some of us got that Email today...I'm in:D
Hey you guys, what were ure stats. i got my interview tomorrow and i just want some idea of what they are looking for and if im within their range. thanksss
bananayumboat 02-26-2007, 08:32 AM hey amathew, when's ure interview? im on tuesday (2/27)
139230 02-26-2007, 11:33 AM VYTillIDie (http://more.studentdoctor.net/member.php?u=136058)
I sent in my application in on January 20th. I received the e-mail about an interview on February 12th. Replied to the e-mail immediately and requested interview date of the 28th. Received the confirmation on the 22nd (after calling Ms. Copeland...they are swamped up there!).
Am I the only SDN interviewing at TOUROCOM NY on the 28th?!?!
poormansDO 02-26-2007, 02:07 PM Anybody have an idea how to contact the office of admissions. is the number 212-851-1199 ext. 2003, nobody ever picks up, is obed the only admissions office person or is there a number for that. i've called them many times over the last few weeks but nobody picks up to learn of my app status. i sent an email to obed and he hasn't said anything. what should i do?
VYTillIDie 02-26-2007, 02:16 PM poorman-
I have been calling 212-851-1198. I'm sure they're both TouroCOM because obviously we both get the prompt to enter the extension.
I have kind of the same situation...just keep calling. I have had 2 phone pickups in the last meh, 3 weeks. Neither was Obed. The same lady answered the phone both times. I didn't ask for her name and she didn't give it, but she was very nice, and sounded flustered.
My secondary and evals were sent February 5 from Texas, and I figured they would take a week...so I started calling the 12th. Well, I didn't get an answer until the 15th, and they didn't know my academic evals were online, so we got that straightened out. Then, I kept calling to confirm that they had been retrieved and were actually on file...no answer until this past Friday, the 23rd. They have everything. I'm extremely antzy for an interview invite. Good luck! Keep calling. Between every class, and on your way to and from school.
doc1228 02-26-2007, 02:18 PM They are swamped it takes them a long time to get back to you. They often don't answer emails just because they are not in there office. Obed was talking about how much work he has when I was there for my interview. Email was the best way to get a hold of anyone but it takes awhile either way to get anyone.
TerpDO 02-26-2007, 04:06 PM Hey there,
Try calling in the afternoon at like 4-5 PM eastern time, maybe until 6 pm. I did that a few times in the past few weeks and Obed picked up more often than not. Obed takes an active role in the interview days so he's not free to answer phones during the morning to early afternoon hours.
P.S. if you get swamped by calls in the afternoon, I apologize Obed.
139230 02-27-2007, 02:45 PM anyone up in New York right now???
I'm at my hotel waiting for my interview in the morning. Just wondering if anyone wants to go out and relax before the end of the night! Let me know!
amathew 02-27-2007, 04:16 PM hi all
i got back from my interview today (padunty...there was actually an interviewee who wanted to do just that after the interview...walk around and explore ny) but I guess there is no way of getting hold of him now.
For those who are waiting on a confirmation about a date, I didn't receive my confirmation til a few days before the interview, so don't worry. they haven't forgotten you.
for those anticipating an interview, just relax. this was my first interview. i didn't know what to expect. but the folks there are EXTREMELY nice and funny and they try to loosen you up a bit even before the interview. Even my interviewers were excited to interview me, which made me excited for myself and remind myself why I do belong in this school.
For those who are trying to get a hold of Mr. Figueroa, I must say he might be the hardest working person on interview days and is extremely busy from 9-2, which might explain WHY you can't get a hold of him. He's the one who shows you around and answers your questions. He's also the person in charge of getting you to north general hospital, he asks the resident questions that you might be too timid to ask and he's the one who makes sure everything runs smoothly.
Overall, for my first interview, I'd say the interview was great *knock on wood* The people I met, both faculty and interviewees were lots of fun and it was easy to talk to most of them. The next couple of weeks would be like walking on a bed of thorns, but I can only hope for the best. Don't worry and Good luck everyone :luck:
Yelenar1123 02-27-2007, 04:16 PM Hey does any one know what the gpa requirement will be for this school. I'm hearing that since it is new maybe they will be more lenient. My GPA is a 2.85 and im taking MCAT in august so thats why i'm asking. I was considering Carribean medical school my only option but until i heard about this school. Any Info???
confL 02-28-2007, 10:00 AM I have no idea... I heard from Obed that unless you are talented otherwise meaning high gpa, lots of research, experience they wanted a 24+ MCAT and I haven't heard anything about gpa requirements.. If it helps you any I got in with a gpa of 3.5.
doc1228 02-28-2007, 12:40 PM I thought they aslo had a GPA cutoff for the secondary. Obed said that they were prescreening both MCAT and GPA (I believe) so that people wouldn't just be sending in the $200. I am sure he would tell you the cutoffs if you emailed him.
amathew 02-28-2007, 03:09 PM initially they were looking for 3.0+/24+ students, but after their initial batch, they are looking at applicants who might be a little lower in one set but strong in the other (for example low mcat/strong GPA or vice versa), but also with a strong application in all other sense (as in research, clinical experiences, overall exposure to diverse population and health care). But they are very good at emailing/calling you back, so I definitely recommend doing so. They're a little busy now with interviews, but I'm sure they'd be willing to help you out.
139230 02-28-2007, 03:58 PM So ....
I just finished my interview at TOUROCOM. I think the interviews on 2/28 may have been a little less relaxed than previous interviews!!!
One interviewer only asked me one question (you grew up on an Air Force base?) and stared through my head for the rest of the interview.
The other guy cut me off in the middle of a story and tried to throw me off and upset me!!! The comments went something like this:
Me - Yes, I am very proud to be one of the youngest AATB Certified Tissue Bank Specialists. I practically started the transplant program from scratch, with help from my Chief Scientific Officer. We are always in contact with ...
Interviewer - *interupts me* Everything you have said up to this point has not impressed me... you're not accepted to TOUROCOM ....
*pause* ... (can feel my heart beating in my face) ...
Interviewer - what do you do?...
Me - *in my head i'm thinking ... i run across the street and grab some defib paddles and shock the crap out of my heart because i just had an acute MI!!!*
Then I give the standard answer of, "I'd go back to my job and continue to help my community, retake the MCAT, possibly get a Master's, and then apply to Tourocom again ...
Talk about a brutal, brutal question!!!
Overall the interview was just that ... and interview ... less of a conversation, more of a rapid fire judgement day ... lol
The faculty was very nice and Obed was a great guy. All the people in my interview group were pretty nice too (I know some of yall are on SDN!).
Good luck to everyone ... I'll be keeping my fingers crossed!
doc1228 02-28-2007, 04:46 PM don't worry during my interview they told me my reasons wouldn't cut it. I stuck with what I was saying and I earned acceptance. Hopefully it will go the same for you
ecaballe 02-28-2007, 06:49 PM Hey everyone! I just got had my interview yesterday 2/27 and overall I'd say it was a great experience. It was my first interview so I was in awe of just about everything from the school, the faculty, and meeting the other students.
The day started out w/a brief presentation from the school. We had the pleasure of meeting Dr. Diamond, Obed, and some of the other Deans. They made it clear that as the first class, the curriculum would be extremely challenging so that the reputation of the school would be a strong one. However, they also made it a point to let us know that they would be very supportive throughout the 4 years of med school. They also mentioned that within the first few months they would work to identify the strongest students and have them lead the way in helping other students achieve academic success. Personally, I find this entire network of support to be important especially when it comes to building commeradery among the students who will have the distinct opportunity to say that they were the first class for what will be a reputable institution.
As for the interview, it is closed file which really levels the playing field. It also meant that a lot of the questions were really personalized and aimed at seeing how well you can communicate and how passionate you are about the profession. My two interviewers were very easy to talk to. One was the Dean for Clinical Years and the other was a lady from Basic Sciences. I'll just list a few sample questions that I got. Interviews are supposed to run for 30 min., but mine actually went to 50min. and it really flew by (we'll find out if that was a good thing or not soon enough).
Tell us about yourself.
Why did you choose osteopathic medicine?
Tell us what osteopathic medicine means in your own words.
Why did you apply to Touro?
Did you apply to both allopathic and osteopathic schools?
What do you see as the biggest problem in healthcare?
What would you think about implementing a Universal Healthcare system?
Can you think of a time that would made a positive impact on another student?
If (theoretically) you didn't get in, what would you do?
You also get a chance to ask them questions. I took this opportunity to ask them why they chose their careers and what they thought was most rewarding and most challenging. They responded pretty openly and warmly and it gave them a chance to talk t you.
Just a few final things...I got the impression that they felt that being a leader in the Harlem community was kind of a big deal to them. It lets the residents know that the school isn't there just to take the community's money while students practice elsewhere. They're planning on community service projects geared at exposing young kids about medicine early so they know that it is an option in life. Also, go through the school catalog. They liked that I pointed out some things about their curriculum such as electives like Medical Spanish or Pregnancy Partners. If you have time to learn more about the profession check out the book "The D.O" by Norman Gevitz. I mentioned it in my interview and one of the interviewers actually read it and it gave us something to talk about. Finally, relax and have fun out there. You'll meet some great people and you'll get to see an awesome city. You'll also learn a lot about the visions of the school, the profession, and yourself. Sorry for the long post, but I hope it was helpful! Thanks and take care!
139230 02-28-2007, 07:19 PM thanks Doc1228 ... and congrats on getting in
let the nail-biting, hair-pulling countdown begin!!!
amathew 03-01-2007, 12:38 AM Hey everyone! I just got had my interview yesterday 2/27 and overall I'd say it was a great experience. It was my first interview so I was in awe of just about everything from the school, the faculty, and meeting the other students.
The day started out w/a brief presentation from the school. We had the pleasure of meeting Dr. Diamond, Obed, and some of the other Deans. They made it clear that as the first class, the curriculum would be extremely challenging so that the reputation of the school would be a strong one. However, they also made it a point to let us know that they would be very supportive throughout the 4 years of med school. They also mentioned that within the first few months they would work to identify the strongest students and have them lead the way in helping other students achieve academic success. Personally, I find this entire network of support to be important especially when it comes to building commeradery among the students who will have the distinct opportunity to say that they were the first class for what will be a reputable institution.
As for the interview, it is closed file which really levels the playing field. It also meant that a lot of the questions were really personalized and aimed at seeing how well you can communicate and how passionate you are about the profession. My two interviewers were very easy to talk to. One was the Dean for Clinical Years and the other was a lady from Basic Sciences. I'll just list a few sample questions that I got. Interviews are supposed to run for 30 min., but mine actually went to 50min. and it really flew by (we'll find out if that was a good thing or not soon enough).
Tell us about yourself.
Why did you choose osteopathic medicine?
Tell us what osteopathic medicine means in your own words.
Why did you apply to Touro?
Did you apply to both allopathic and osteopathic schools?
What do you see as the biggest problem in healthcare?
What would you think about implementing a Universal Healthcare system?
Can you think of a time that would made a positive impact on another student?
If (theoretically) you didn't get in, what would you do?
You also get a chance to ask them questions. I took this opportunity to ask them why they chose their careers and what they thought was most rewarding and most challenging. They responded pretty openly and warmly and it gave them a chance to talk t you.
Just a few final things...I got the impression that they felt that being a leader in the Harlem community was kind of a big deal to them. It lets the residents know that the school isn't there just to take the community's money while students practice elsewhere. They're planning on community service projects geared at exposing young kids about medicine early so they know that it is an option in life. Also, go through the school catalog. They liked that I pointed out some things about their curriculum such as electives like Medical Spanish or Pregnancy Partners. If you have time to learn more about the profession check out the book "The D.O" by Norman Gevitz. I mentioned it in my interview and one of the interviewers actually read it and it gave us something to talk about. Finally, relax and have fun out there. You'll meet some great people and you'll get to see an awesome city. You'll also learn a lot about the visions of the school, the profession, and yourself. Sorry for the long post, but I hope it was helpful! Thanks and take care!
Dang Efren, your interview was 50 mins long?!?! Mine was close to half an hour and I felt that was long until I came out of the interview...and I agree with him...they really do want to know that you've been a strong leader in the past, and you plan to pursue those leadership qualities in medicine. Neither of my interviewers were DO, both were PhD and I'm assuming would be the faculty for basic sciences. They were really nice and really wanted to get to know me.
Some questions I was asked were:
Why is osteopathic medicine right for you?
What kind of exposure to medicine have you come across?
Why are you interested in primary care versus a specialty?
How does health care in India (where I was born and raised) differ from health care in the US? (the answer to this question led to another question which led to another question...i kinda liked that..made it more conversational)
What other schools have you applied to? Just DO or MD as well? What would you do if you got into an MD school in your state (only question that really stumped me)
Name a conflict that you came across and how did you solve it?
How do you feel about being the first class at Touro? Are you willing to put in 70-80hrs/week?
There were more that branched from these questions, but I can't stress enough to have honest answers. I prepared for the interview, but wasn't expecting the questions that I was given. Instead of preparing an answer at the moment that I thought they might want to hear, I was honest, and they complimented me a few times on certain aspects of my interview. I can only hope those are good signs. But yea, hope these tips/questions help future interviewees :)
Shuevee 03-01-2007, 05:34 AM Are you willing to put in 70-80hrs/week?
Are they joking?
Onstarr 03-01-2007, 06:32 AM I've had that question asked abruptly too @ Upstate Univ.
"if you dont get into medical school this year... what will you do?"
bananayumboat 03-01-2007, 08:59 AM the waiting after the interview continues.. this is all actually quite frightening. haha and to think in the end it seems to have come down to personality? sigh...
amathew 03-01-2007, 09:15 AM the waiting after the interview continues.. this is all actually quite frightening. haha and to think in the end it seems to have come down to personality? sigh...
HAHAHHAHA...well if that was the ONLY factor, i doubt you'd have anything to worry about :)
hps2103 03-01-2007, 11:04 AM Good luck to all of you that recently interviewed. Hopefully if you got a good vibe it will turn out well. My interview (I was part of the first group) was totally laid back. I'm not sure...but it seems like some of the questions being asked now are a little more comprehensive. I still mentioned most everything that people have been talking about, but wasn't directly asked a lot of that stuff in my interview.
And this is totally strange...At the end of the day I said thank you to one of my interviewers. He shook my hand and said: "Thanks...I think you're really going to like this school." I eventually got in...so I guess if you feel good about your interview it might eventually work in your favor.
doc1228 03-01-2007, 02:18 PM Native New Yorkers- What are good locations to check out for apartments?
-chicagoan :laugh:
clement 03-01-2007, 02:28 PM Native New Yorkers- What are good locations to check out for apartments?
-chicagoan :laugh:
You'll find some info on the first page of the Touro Class of 2011 thread in the osteopathic forum. However, let me quote what HousingDo (a native) suggested,
"LKoffman, it was I, HousingDO who told you that Harlem can be a little sketchy at night. Mind you, that is in comparison to Boston. I did high school there and there is a difference. However, you need not fear. It's just the side streets that people should watch out for. Main streets are all good all the time.
And listen everyone, the East side of Morningside Heights, on the East Side of Morningside Park is not a nice area. Despite tons of Columbia (my alma mater) students living there, it is not nice. Just thought I'd clear that up. And by not nice, I mean there are CRACKHOUSES on many blocks. That's all I'm saying. No biggie. Just crack.
Upper West side is great and several parts of both Spanish Harlem, Harlem and Washington Heights, Inwood and several other nearby areas are really well suited for us.
I'm going to show you guys apartments that are also on the A/C line rather than just the Red lines. The red lines land 1 avenue from Touro and the A/C arrives 2 avenues away. That line is a good option. I live on that line."
Hope that helped (personally I think it's good to stay on the west side of town as far as our commute goes). Woud suggest looking at an online metro map if you can.
bananayumboat 03-01-2007, 02:34 PM if that were the only factor then we would both be in.. tee hee
HousingDO 03-02-2007, 06:52 AM Speaking to Obed recently, the interviewers basically learned more good questions to ask from our intial interviews. So for that, I think the first couple of batches of interviewees ruined it for you guys. Blame Clement.
But I think we all know the correct answers to these questions. We know what schools want to hear. They want you to have a real reason why you chose DO school over MD schools. I think they want you to have an open mind, but a bias towards the holistic approach and treating the underserved. Ad the honesty of what brought you to the interview in the first place and you should be able to give them answers that feel more visceral than brainy. I think that's what they're looking for because they can evaluate the brainy side using our stats.
And from the housing side, I work with 3 different brokerage firms purposely to have access to all of the available listings in the areas above 96th Street and below the Bronx. I work all of Upper Manhattan, which has a huge pendulum swing to what its costs can be. I have many relationships with landlords in the area and I'm working on convincing 3 of them right now to convert their buildings into strictly student housing. My 2 main obstacles there are some of the few remaining tenants in their 'currently under renovation' buildings and the issue of payment during the 3 months of summer we have. They want to be sure they won't lose 25% of the year's income to cater to special crowd.
Anyway, apart from that, if you do not have relationships with owners or haven't worked the area and become well-known for some years, all you have access to are the REBNY listings. These are general listings that are up for any and all brokers to view and show. They're more difficult to get access to and therefore, are rarely known before-hand. Why is this important?
The truth of the matter is that any of you can do most of what I do to find an apartment. However, without resources and access, it will take you 2 months to find an apartment that I will find in 2 days. The question is: What is your time worth to you? And, of course, this is assuming that you're present, onsite, in NY to exercise those resources. If you're from out of town, DO NOT try to find your place on your own. You will not get what you're looking for.
It's all about volume. Whoever looks at the most apartments, finds the best one at the best price. Well, here's the thing. I've looked at thousands of apartments, to the point where I've seen a couple of them again and didn't even realize it until I got there. I preview all of the apartments so that you don't have to. When I started, I averaged, 10-15 apartment viewings on my own to find 3-4 that truly fit my client's wants and budget (mind you, this is for New Yorkers, who know the market a little bit) and now I preview about 6-8 apartments to find 2-3 that would work. It's a much more efficient process and the landlords prefer tenants coming through us because you come prescreened and packaged for delivery.
BTW, check your credit scores and start fixing any things that are off. This will affect your deposit amount. The higher risk you are, the greater deposit required, if they even accept you. Also, get those taxes done (you need to for FAFSA anyway) and have those and the taxes of your guarantors (if needed) ready. Have 2-3 references (preferably in letter form) ready to go and be prepared to make decisions when I take you out. When you find the one you want, I guarantee you, you are not the only one who wants it. Gotta move fast in the city.
Anyway, anyone with housing questions call me at (917) 517-0220 or email me at bravofitness@yahoo.com. My name is Jason Bravo. I'll login to the class network hopefully today. Talk to you all soon. Also, I've got more stuff than the guys the school recommends, but the spoke to Obed before I did and they only wanted to use one company. I also have owners submitting sales offers for their buildings to Touro so they can purchase housing apt space for us. But you've got a little time. I'm gearing up and getting everything setup for us.
jp104 03-02-2007, 07:10 AM Hi All,
I've been trying to call Touro all week to figure out if I am complete with them. Unfortunately, the 212-851-1199 x2003 mailbox is full and no one ever picks up. Is there any other way to contact them (other than email - I've tried that too ;))? Any other numbers I can try?
Thanks!
HousingDO 03-02-2007, 10:40 AM Hi All,
I've been trying to call Touro all week to figure out if I am complete with them. Unfortunately, the 212-851-1199 x2003 mailbox is full and no one ever picks up. Is there any other way to contact them (other than email - I've tried that too ;))? Any other numbers I can try?
Thanks!
Well,
I use 212-851-1198 and I use the 2003 extension. I usually get Tameka, the front desk receptionist, but at least someone picks up. Try that one.
jp104 03-02-2007, 10:54 AM Well,
I use 212-851-1198 and I use the 2003 extension. I usually get Tameka, the front desk receptionist, but at least someone picks up. Try that one.
Seems like that number goes to the same number as the other (the extensions are the same). Thanks though! I'll keep trying :thumbup:
clement 03-02-2007, 11:54 AM Speaking to Obed recently, the interviewers basically learned more good questions to ask from our intial interviews. So for that, I think the first couple of batches of interviewees ruined it for you guys. Blame Clement.
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HousingDO 03-02-2007, 12:34 PM It was a compliment, Clement.
Oh, yeah, I got through on 1198 line and they said Obed's out til Mon.
Did anyone else get that scholarship info about a week ago that was a 750 word essay for the CHANCE to get whopping $1,000 scholarship? Not to sound ungrateful, but in the same time it would take me to write a 750 word essay that reads like normal English, I could have made $1,000 at Wendy's.
Dr Kay 03-02-2007, 01:20 PM It was a compliment, Clement.
Oh, yeah, I got through on 1198 line and they said Obed's out til Mon.
Did anyone else get that scholarship info about a week ago that was a 750 word essay for the CHANCE to get whopping $1,000 scholarship? Not to sound ungrateful, but in the same time it would take me to write a 750 word essay that reads like normal English, I could have made $1,000 at Wendy's.
Unfortuantely I have to agree with you, even though it did say at least $1,000. I thought to myself that unless it was an essay I could recycle, I'd rather just work for a $1,000, this way I could be getting it for sure and not be going through yet another selection process, and heaven forbid they have a secondary application or better yet an interview. I didn't want to say anything cause I didn't want to sound ungrateful/unappreciatetive.:(
clement 03-02-2007, 01:32 PM It was a compliment, Clement.
Oh, yeah, I got through on 1198 line and they said Obed's out til Mon.
Did anyone else get that scholarship info about a week ago that was a 750 word essay for the CHANCE to get whopping $1,000 scholarship? Not to sound ungrateful, but in the same time it would take me to write a 750 word essay that reads like normal English, I could have made $1,000 at Wendy's.
I know, that's why I was doing my cat stretch (you know, like cracking your knuckles and what not :laugh: ). Hope to meet all you cats soon :D and thanks for the compliment.
BTW guys, not sure if you've been following the yahoo link posts, but looks like we're not going to qualify for applying to that scholarship! Sign into yahoo...I know, I know, you're hopelessly disappointed.
humz84 03-04-2007, 04:15 PM Congrats to all that were accepted to TouroNY. I too am looking to go this school also. I wanted to let everyone know that SDN has listed Touro College NY on the interview feedback section. If it is possible for people to help post up replies for future interviewers, I would truly be grateful. Thanks
139230 03-06-2007, 11:48 AM Anyone from the 2-27 and 2-28 round of interviews hear back from Tourocom?
Just curious! ... and crazy nervous!
amathew 03-06-2007, 03:11 PM Anyone from the 2-27 and 2-28 round of interviews hear back from Tourocom?
Just curious! ... and crazy nervous!
nope...im guessing we'd be hearing this week. I try my best to distract myself from thinking about it....never mind the fact that i log on SDN five times a day to see if anyone from that batch got accepted...:cool: got my fingers crossed and putting my faith in God :o
when did you receive your secondary and how long after did you get an interview?
VYTillIDie 03-06-2007, 05:45 PM I applied in the first week of January, got my secondary in the mail shortly thereafter, but didn't get back to school until about Jan. 15, so I got my secondary then. I sent it in February 5, and they probably received it about February 12 because I sent it from Texas. I got my interview invite March 1, and my choices were the 7th, 13th, and 14th of March. I'm interviewing on the 14th.
confL 03-06-2007, 07:57 PM But is it just me or is this class filling up really fast? They said that the entering class is 125. Looking at our yahoo accepted/going to Touro group there are already 36 members meaning that there are only 89 left! and that is only if everyone who got accepted and sent in the deposit is in the group, more realistically since some shun the internet they probably have atleast 40-45 people who said they are going to the school. They started interviewing in January...If they keep going at this rate the class should be full by the end of begining of May if not sooner in my opinion. So my advice for anyone applying take the earliest interview date they are offering.
Disclaimer: Do not panic after reading this... this is just an observation:)
amathew 03-07-2007, 07:34 AM at our interview (feb 27) they said that for the last month (between jan and feb), they sent out 36 acceptances, out of which 24 have sent in their deposits thus securing their spots for the 2011 class. That means starting from last week's interviews, there are a 101 spots still available. Its just in their best interests to accept the good applicants who might have interviewed early, instead of prolonging acceptances, in the chance that they might lose a strong candidate to some other school.
With that said, good luck to everyone awaiting a decision/interview. :luck:
139230 03-07-2007, 08:29 AM At the 2-28 interview I was in a cab with Obed and another applicant. I asked Obed about the acceptance numbers directly.
He stated that they received 800 applications in January. Since, they have interviewed 2 times a week, between 9 and 14 applicants a day. As of 2-28, he stated that they have accepted 60-something students BUT only 29 had sent in their deposits.
Not sure why we have a big number discrepancy from the 27th to the 28th (amathew's comment) but just wanted to share the info that I was told!!!
Good luck to everyone ... I hope to hear back in a couple of days and hopefully will be meeting you all come the end of summer!
neu yorker 03-07-2007, 08:44 AM i interviewed on 2-27 also and heard two days later from a friend involved at the school that they were sending out letters in "a few days" already. so im hoping that we should be getting stuff this week. i also got good interview feedback, so im crossing my fingers - but its looking good. i hope.
amathew 03-07-2007, 09:21 AM At the 2-28 interview I was in a cab with Obed and another applicant. I asked Obed about the acceptance numbers directly.
He stated that they received 800 applications in January. Since, they have interviewed 2 times a week, between 9 and 14 applicants a day. As of 2-28, he stated that they have accepted 60-something students BUT only 29 had sent in their deposits.
Not sure why we have a big number discrepancy from the 27th to the 28th (amathew's comment) but just wanted to share the info that I was told!!!
Good luck to everyone ... I hope to hear back in a couple of days and hopefully will be meeting you all come the end of summer!
Oops! It might have been 60 something, but thats a lot of acceptances considering that they'd probably have around 90 interviewees thus far. Hmm I'm hoping what they actually consider to reject a student :( *think happy thoughts*
Hexanol 03-07-2007, 03:45 PM I've had that question asked abruptly too @ Upstate Univ.
"if you dont get into medical school this year... what will you do?"
truthfully, many schools ask this question and its not something to be afraid of or fearful of. They just want to see where you stand and how serious and devoted you are to getting into med school.
So what do you do IF you don't get in? You reapply! You do a master's or you retake classes, you do anything and everything possible to strengthen your application and make yourself a stronger applicant but in no means do you give up on your passion and your dream.
hope that helps.
bananayumboat 03-07-2007, 05:18 PM ok so i interviewed on the 27th and i rememeber him saying that they interviewed 90something so far, and accepted 63... 20something of which put down a deposit... so that leaves give or take 100 spots.... so yeah... take the earliest date possible, and make sure u put thought into the interview.. looks like a bad one gets u out and a good one gets u in.. on a basic level of course.... amathew im right there with u with the nerves... haha checking email 15 times a day... *hope and pray to get in*
Hexanol 03-07-2007, 05:34 PM nope...im guessing we'd be hearing this week. I try my best to distract myself from thinking about it....never mind the fact that i log on SDN five times a day to see if anyone from that batch got accepted...:cool: got my fingers crossed and putting my faith in God :o
Goodluck! :luck:
Hexanol 03-07-2007, 05:34 PM ok so i interviewed on the 27th and i rememeber him saying that they interviewed 90something so far, and accepted 63... 20something of which put down a deposit... so that leaves give or take 100 spots.... so yeah... take the earliest date possible, and make sure u put thought into the interview.. looks like a bad one gets u out and a good one gets u in.. on a basic level of course.... amathew im right there with u with the nerves... haha checking email 15 times a day... *hope and pray to get in*
Goodluck to you as well! :luck:
medtechdoc 03-07-2007, 07:27 PM interviewed on the 28th...nothing yet...I'm a nervous wreck!! :scared:
139230 03-08-2007, 05:46 AM interviewed on the 28th...nothing yet...I'm a nervous wreck!! :scared:
MEDTECHDOC .... which interviewee were you? I was there on the 28th too and I'm just curious!
Good luck all!
bananayumboat 03-08-2007, 09:22 AM thanks guys... :) *trying to stay as calm as possible*
bananayumboat 03-08-2007, 09:40 AM hey all u accepted people.. what are ure stats.. feel free to pm me if u guys want.. im just trying to get a feel for what touro is looking for.. *hopes*
thankss
amathew 03-08-2007, 09:48 AM hey all u accepted people.. what are ure stats.. feel free to pm me if u guys want.. im just trying to get a feel for what touro is looking for.. *hopes*
thankss
ok so this is ridiculous, but im literally checking my mail every time i come to my desk...which is like every 20 mins or something. OMG i would be an emotional wreck if i get rejected after this rollercoaster of emotions. I've already started on a bad day with my parents getting into a car accident and my dad being hospitalized :( I hope this trend doesn't continue throughout the day.
For those of you who were accepted, what was the longest time between interview and getting your acceptance email. I know they said within two weeks, but just wanted to know whether we should be expecting it today or tomorrow, or should i hold on to my nerves til next tuesday :rolleyes:
jp104 03-08-2007, 10:44 AM Hmm, anyone else having problems getting through to the school by phone today? :)
Dr Kay 03-08-2007, 10:51 AM ok so this is ridiculous, but im literally checking my mail every time i come to my desk...which is like every 20 mins or something. OMG i would be an emotional wreck if i get rejected after this rollercoaster of emotions. I've already started on a bad day with my parents getting into a car accident and my dad being hospitalized :( I hope this trend doesn't continue throughout the day.
For those of you who were accepted, what was the longest time between interview and getting your acceptance email. I know they said within two weeks, but just wanted to know whether we should be expecting it today or tomorrow, or should i hold on to my nerves til next tuesday :rolleyes:
Stop the madness, amathew you are actually making me nervous, and I already got in. I am really hoping that you get in, and each time I look to read your post, I am hoping it is an acceptance, but no it is you worrying again. Take my word for it, you are going to drive yourself insane for no reason, at this point there is nothing you can do to make this come any faster. And don't you dare say it is easy for me to say cause I am in, not true. I was in your same postion last year after interviews, and also after my touro ny interview. please trust me when I say this STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER. Please for the rest of the day, and for a couple days stop checking your e-mail, and find something else to do to occupy your time. go running, clean your room, go do something else anything PLEEEASE. my acceptance came in on a friday, and I didn't even see it until sunday, cause I was driving myself insane just like you, and realized I had to stop and go do something else. I am sorry to hear about your dad, I wish him a speddy recovery, and I really hope you get in, so please step away from the computer, and I better not see you post anything else here unless it is an acceptance.:laugh:
139230 03-08-2007, 11:09 AM Stop the madness, amathew you are actually making me nervous, and I already got in. I am really hoping that you get in, and each time I look to read your post, I am hoping it is an acceptance, but no it is you worrying again. Take my word for it, you are going to drive yourself insane for no reason, at this point there is nothing you can do to make this come any faster. And don't you dare say it is easy for me to say cause I am in, not true. I was in your same postion last year after interviews, and also after my touro ny interview. please trust me when I say this STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER. Please for the rest of the day, and for a couple days stop checking your e-mail, and find something else to do to occupy your time. go running, clean your room, go do something else anything PLEEEASE. my acceptance came in on a friday, and I didn't even see it until sunday, cause I was driving myself insane just like you, and realized I had to stop and go do something else. I am sorry to hear about your dad, I wish him a speddy recovery, and I really hope you get in, so please step away from the computer, and I better not see you post anything else here unless it is an acceptance.:laugh:
AMATHEW ... you should listen to Dr Kay! ... but if you need to, you can sneak an e-mail check on my computer! ... lol
I've been nervous this whole week too! ... I've taken my mind off of the whole med school thing by applying to law school ... that is SO easy and quite relaxing. lol just kidding
I'm unplugging my work internet ... my next post will be about my acceptance (or rejection) ... oh jeez ...
best of luck!
Dr Kay 03-08-2007, 11:57 AM AMATHEW ... you should listen to Dr Kay! ... but if you need to, you can sneak an e-mail check on my computer! ... lol
I've been nervous this whole week too! ... I've taken my mind off of the whole med school thing by applying to law school ... that is SO easy and quite relaxing. lol just kidding
I'm unplugging my work internet ... my next post will be about my acceptance (or rejection) ... oh jeez ...
best of luck!
good for you padunty:thumbup:
EastWestN2grt 03-08-2007, 12:47 PM ok so this is ridiculous, but im literally checking my mail every time i come to my desk...which is like every 20 mins or something. OMG i would be an emotional wreck if i get rejected after this rollercoaster of emotions. I've already started on a bad day with my parents getting into a car accident and my dad being hospitalized :( I hope this trend doesn't continue throughout the day.
For those of you who were accepted, what was the longest time between interview and getting your acceptance email. I know they said within two weeks, but just wanted to know whether we should be expecting it today or tomorrow, or should i hold on to my nerves til next tuesday :rolleyes:
I interviewed on the 14th of February. My group got acceptances 10 days later, on Friday the 24th. So I would expect your group to probably hear something tomorrow--Friday, 10 days later!! Just to add to your emotional stress:p the emails arrived around 10:30am Pacific time--I checked my email in the morining 9AM, and had not heard anything and decided I would not check till the evening, before I left my research lab around 8pm, and oh let me tell you seeing that message in Gmail with the subject: Letter of Acceptance/Hard copy to follow....... was the GREATEST feeling in the world!!!!!Celebrated with fellow lab mates and toasted over a couple of pints of Guinesss!!!! I for one will NEVER forget that moment!!!:love: :love: :thumbup:
I hope the best for all of you poor souls stressing now!!! And remember to enjoy that moment if you are lucky enough to get one of those acceptance letters soon. BTW, my class deposit check arrived today in NYC at 11Am so, if anyone is keeping tabs that makes approximately 20 something paid MSI' s for Tourocom NY.
Cheers!!
bananayumboat 03-09-2007, 04:38 AM omg i know i decided the same thing.. i was checking like a crazy person and i decided not to check it at school and to ONLY check it when i came home at night (round 9 anyway).. keeps me from crying and screaming in the library.. haha im realllly hoping to get in too but amathew, there isnt anything more to do... and u already put ure best face forward so just wait... its a matter or a few days at most. tho we'll prob get a letter today.. please dont stress. i was the same way and i was on the phone with my boyfriend freaking out and u just gotta keep ure chin up and wait... and keep hoping. Terribly sorry about ure dad i hope he gets better sooon. i know how car accidents are, ive had a terrible one myself. dont worry bad luck is just as superstition, and its not going to effect admissions :) keep us posted babe.
jp104 03-09-2007, 06:49 AM Is anyone else having problems getting through to Touro? The phone rings and rings and never gets to the point where you can dial the 2003 extension. Are there any other numbers to call?
supervic8 03-09-2007, 08:25 AM Well, this could/shoudl be the day... right? I wish you all good luck.
Mars and Venus 03-09-2007, 08:29 AM Hey all... I interviewed on 3/6. I haven't heard a decision yet, but...is anyone concerned about the fact that the school isn't even finished yet??? i know everyone has their personal reasons for choosing NY but that fact worries me, a lot. I am also concerned about the fact that there is no cafeteria, no gym on campus, no coffee shop or alike, no established student organizations...can anyone make me feel better? i am a New Yorker at heart. I lived in NY for a few years and moved back to FL (home base) I feel like I left my heart in NY. I really want to work in underserved urban areas, but I am worried about so much. HELP!
jp104 03-09-2007, 08:33 AM Is anyone else having problems getting through to Touro? The phone rings and rings and never gets to the point where you can dial the 2003 extension. Are there any other numbers to call?
Welp, I just got off the phone with Touro's phone/tech support. Apparently there was a flood on the 9th floor of the building where the school is and it caused alot of water damage. One of the casualties is the phone system. I am not sure if it will cause any delays with adcom meetings as well.
Good luck all!
fightingprussia 03-09-2007, 10:57 AM Hoping to get in to Touro! I have had to turn down two other admissions to DO schools and go on the waiting list for my backup for an interview, just trying to get in here. This is incredibly frustrating. Won't I feel like a complete idiot if I don't get in and have to repeat this whole process over again and wait a year. Ugh, this is a true test of patience to say the least. Anyone else feel like we are always hurrying up to wait around?
amathew 03-09-2007, 02:34 PM *whistles to act casual and not get yelled at by dr kay* :laugh:
but im assuming no one heard from touro, eh?
fightingprussia 03-09-2007, 05:06 PM Hey, nope, i interviewed with you on the 27th, and still no news yet.
EastWestN2grt 03-09-2007, 05:09 PM Hoping to get in to Touro! I have had to turn down two other admissions to DO schools and go on the waiting list for my backup for an interview, just trying to get in here. This is incredibly frustrating. Won't I feel like a complete idiot if I don't get in and have to repeat this whole process over again and wait a year. Ugh, this is a true test of patience to say the least. Anyone else feel like we are always hurrying up to wait around?
Why did you turn down an admissions!! Why not just cough up the deposit to the better of the two and wait if Touro comes around--Worse case scenario, you lose money, but at least you still have a guaranteed spot. You know the proverbial 'bird in the hand is better than one in the bush...kinda thing.'. Good luck to you though...It really would suck to have to go through the application again.
EastWestN2grt 03-09-2007, 05:28 PM Hey all... I interviewed on 3/6. I haven't heard a decision yet, but...is anyone concerned about the fact that the school isn't even finished yet??? i know everyone has their personal reasons for choosing NY but that fact worries me, a lot. I am also concerned about the fact that there is no cafeteria, no gym on campus, no coffee shop or alike, no established student organizations...can anyone make me feel better? i am a New Yorker at heart. I lived in NY for a few years and moved back to FL (home base) I feel like I left my heart in NY. I really want to work in underserved urban areas, but I am worried about so much. HELP!
Gotta tell you, for myself--all of the above are things I actually LIKE. I like challenges, and progress and having the potential to create my environment, and be a 'pioneer'. This is one of the biggest reasons why this school appeals to me. Sure we dont get the ready made 'Tourocom NY Medicine' shirts, sure we might need to walk down to NYSC to exercise, sure we get to start student organizations up from scratch, and yes we might even take a few classes with lingering sawdust on the floor and the smell of new paint in the air--but you know what, every school had to have its first class. WE get to be the first class!! I for one much prefer to be at the forefront of something new and exciting instead of being just 'another' in a long line of 'anothers'.
If this potential role as a trailblazer worrys you too much, you should really take time and consider if this is the right fit for you. You know every one has a school which fits them better than others so you just have to make this decision for yourself. ANyways, you will have 119 other trailblazers with you on this journey so we can all share in the blood and glory!
FOR BLOOD AND GLORY!!!!!(Sorry just watched 300:p )
bananayumboat 03-10-2007, 05:33 AM that explains the delay.. hey we were promised 2 weeks, lets give em till then to panic haha.. as far as marsvenus's question: they are really receptive to suggetions. they asked at the interview i attended for ideas at any time, regarding shuttles to/from the hosipital, security etc. there arent student organizations cuz there are no students! you can make them if u have the time and desire im sure they would be really welcoming and helpful about it. We addressed the cafeteria issue, and they said they were going to try to work something out, what exactly is still up in the air. the gym is across the street tho i would rather run through the park nearby. um and ure in the city, theres a starbucks every 2 feet. there happens to be one down the street from touro, we made an effort to hunt for one while we were there.
hope that helps.
*still waiting on touro's decision*
Mars and Venus 03-10-2007, 06:04 AM Gotta tell you, for myself--all of the above are things I actually LIKE. I like challenges, and progress and having the potential to create my environment, and be a 'pioneer'. This is one of the biggest reasons why this school appeals to me. Sure we dont get the ready made 'Tourocom NY Medicine' shirts, sure we might need to walk down to NYSC to exercise, sure we get to start student organizations up from scratch, and yes we might even take a few classes with lingering sawdust on the floor and the smell of new paint in the air--but you know what, every school had to have its first class. WE get to be the first class!! I for one much prefer to be at the forefront of something new and exciting instead of being just 'another' in a long line of 'anothers'.
If this potential role as a trailblazer worrys you too much, you should really take time and consider if this is the right fit for you. You know every one has a school which fits them better than others so you just have to make this decision for yourself. ANyways, you will have 119 other trailblazers with you on this journey so we can all share in the blood and glory!
FOR BLOOD AND GLORY!!!!!(Sorry just watched 300:p )
Thanks for your input. I think it would be amazing to be at the foundation of what will one day be an amazing school. I love NY and I think that is really important. I have an acceptance at Nova (which I just forked over cash for). It is close to home for me. It is the comfortable, safer bet for me because it is a "med school in a box." I have parental pressure to go there. I guess more than anything I am looking for SOMEONE to approve me taking "the road less traveled." NY is the place for me. I can picture myself so clearly standing there with the NYC mayor, possibly the president, and many fellow classmates in four years feeling really proud that not only did we do it, but we helped make the school what it is. This is all very exciting for me. I guess I am just looking for someone to approve.
Mars and Venus 03-10-2007, 06:06 AM that explains the delay.. hey we were promised 2 weeks, lets give em till then to panic haha.. as far as marsvenus's question: they are really receptive to suggetions. they asked at the interview i attended for ideas at any time, regarding shuttles to/from the hosipital, security etc. there arent student organizations cuz there are no students! you can make them if u have the time and desire im sure they would be really welcoming and helpful about it. We addressed the cafeteria issue, and they said they were going to try to work something out, what exactly is still up in the air. the gym is across the street tho i would rather run through the park nearby. um and ure in the city, theres a starbucks every 2 feet. there happens to be one down the street from touro, we made an effort to hunt for one while we were there.
hope that helps.
*still waiting on touro's decision*
I heard all those things also at my interview. Just trying to break out of my comfort zone, thanks for the input!
TerpDO 03-10-2007, 06:55 AM Thanks for your input. I think it would be amazing to be at the foundation of what will one day be an amazing school. I love NY and I think that is really important. I have an acceptance at Nova (which I just forked over cash for). It is close to home for me. It is the comfortable, safer bet for me because it is a "med school in a box." I have parental pressure to go there. I guess more than anything I am looking for SOMEONE to approve me taking "the road less traveled." NY is the place for me. I can picture myself so clearly standing there with the NYC mayor, possibly the president, and many fellow classmates in four years feeling really proud that not only did we do it, but we helped make the school what it is. This is all very exciting for me. I guess I am just looking for someone to approve.
Hello Mars and Venus, in reply to your post I also interviewed and was accepted at NSU. Though I turned it down initially for other reasons than not liking the school (I was very impressed at the interview at NOVA), most everyone I have talked to since Sept. who have heard about the school from friends and relatives have stated that it was probably a good choice to have done so. There are lots of pros and cons to each school but personally I could not get over the mandatory attendence, dress code, and the huge class size (240 at NSU compared to 120 at Touro NYC). My next interview after NSU was at Touro Vegas and seeing the smaller class size, people were a lot more friendly and seemed to know everyone else, and the way they were dressed in casual clothes seemed to be a much better, relaxed atmosphere, and I hope that Touro NYC will be pretty similar. NSU may be established, but who's to say that is always a good thing? If you say NYC is the place for you then I really do think you need to send in that deposit. I mean what better time to live in NYC than as a med-student when you will be living on loans and not worry about having to earn an income. Focusing on studing most of the time and knowing that there will be lots to do on weekends and breaks seems pretty exciting to me. Let us know what you decide. :D
edit (sorry I don't know if you were accepted yet but best of luck)
TerpDO 03-10-2007, 06:58 AM *whistles to act casual and not get yelled at by dr kay* :laugh:
but im assuming no one heard from touro, eh?
amathew, you know one of the reasons I keep checking this thread is to see if you got in right? flood or no flood more good luck to you! :luck: :luck:
medtechdoc 03-10-2007, 08:10 AM MEDTECHDOC .... which interviewee were you? I was there on the 28th too and I'm just curious!
Good luck all!
I'm the one from long Island...the one who sounded like a horse (I was crazy sick that day) didn't come across as I wanted to :(
I remember you mentioning the "you're not accepted to TOUROCOM..." question (the worst question I've ever heard) but I'm not really sure which one u were...are u the one from Maryland? the one who was in the cab that wasn't paid for? :)
Dr Kay 03-10-2007, 08:22 AM *whistles to act casual and not get yelled at by dr kay* :laugh:
but im assuming no one heard from touro, eh?
You are not getting yelled at:laugh: , I'm just trying to get you to relax and not stress yourself out. By the way I distintively remenbered telling you not to post anything unless it is an acceptance:mad: . kidding (I think), I'm definetly rooting for you, like TerpDO, you are one of the reasons I check this thread hoping you get in soon. best of luck:luck:
bananayumboat 03-11-2007, 11:14 AM thats so funny .. haha
amathew 03-11-2007, 02:51 PM TerpDO, Dr Kay - I don't y'all, but I am already loving you guys (or gals). Thank you for being so supportive. It's extremely sweet, and makes me want to get in Touro even more so I could be in the same class with such awesome people.
And btw, I am one of those people who needs a little yelling once in a while to keep myself from going berzerk, so dr kay, more power to you! and thank you...hopefully tomorrow I'll have some good news to share with you folks :)
rangabou 03-11-2007, 04:21 PM Is there anyone from March 6 interview? I have not heard from them yet. I was so worried but I got some peace when I saw last night that no one from 27/28 Feb group have heard yet from them.
Thanks guys.. I like your discussion.. Please let us know when you heard from them...........
rangabou 03-11-2007, 04:25 PM Hello.. Mars..
Are you from March 6... Do I know you??
highballa33 03-11-2007, 05:41 PM I interviewed on 2/28... haven't heard back either.
bananayumboat 03-11-2007, 07:18 PM we were told 2 weeks rangabou.. so we're holding our horses till then.. id expect about a 2 week turnaround for u to..
*last call for wishes so im sending one out there to get* just seeing all the posts up on this thread really does make u want to go to touro that much more... the entering class is going to be great and i hope i get to join u guys :)
rangabou 03-12-2007, 09:38 AM Is anyone received any acceptance letter??
Lamborghini1315 03-12-2007, 10:03 AM 300 kicked ass:thumbup: ..so wat is your profession?;)
neu yorker 03-12-2007, 10:39 AM They were supposed to send out emails and letters this past Friday, but because of the flood, they got backed up. I was told that they should be sending letters out in the early part of this week - so until then, we keep waiting and hoping. . .
confL 03-12-2007, 01:49 PM I got my official acceptance letter this past friday 3/9, but maybe that's because I'm local to the school.
fightingprussia 03-12-2007, 02:00 PM Hey guys, I got my letter today. I'm in, and I will be attending!! Can't wait to meet all of you guys when school starts! I'm so relieved.
rangabou 03-12-2007, 02:05 PM I don't know whats going on. they are suppose to email first. We did not receive email but some of you received official letter. did anyone receive a official letter or email who interviewed on march 6??
medtechdoc 03-12-2007, 02:49 PM hey confL & fightingprussia...when were u guys interviewed?
amathew 03-12-2007, 03:53 PM oh wow you guys got official letters without emails?? oh boy...now im all anxious to go home and check my mail. Ofcourse they would do this with the batch of interviews I'm in!!!
amathew 03-12-2007, 03:55 PM Hey guys, I got my letter today. I'm in, and I will be attending!! Can't wait to meet all of you guys when school starts! I'm so relieved.
congratulations!!! especially with the risk you took, im glad you got accepted. btw you said you were in the 2/27 interview batch? which interviewee would you be?? I was part of the that crowd as well.
bananayumboat 03-12-2007, 05:54 PM omg im not checking my email till wednesday...
Hexanol 03-12-2007, 05:57 PM Congrats Everyone! :thumbup:
There's a facebook group:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2248470565
and a Yahoo Group:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/TOUROCOMNY2011/
bananayumboat 03-12-2007, 06:22 PM okay so i couldnt take it . i buckled under pressure and i looked.. no email yet... congrats to all the rest!!!! hope i get to join u!
neu yorker 03-13-2007, 04:50 AM I also got a letter without first getting an email. Got it yesterday. So cool!
bananayumboat 03-13-2007, 05:03 AM wat interview date were u neu yorker?
neu yorker 03-13-2007, 06:44 AM wat interview date were u neu yorker?
I interviewed with you on 2/27 - sat across the table in the conference room from you.
139230 03-13-2007, 08:25 AM I'm the one from long Island...the one who sounded like a horse (I was crazy sick that day) didn't come across as I wanted to :(
I remember you mentioning the "you're not accepted to TOUROCOM..." question (the worst question I've ever heard) but I'm not really sure which one u were...are u the one from Maryland? the one who was in the cab that wasn't paid for? :)
medtechdoc ... oh ok i remember you!. Yeah, I was the guy from Maryland that was in the unpaid cab.
OK, do I know I said I would not post anything until I heard from the school but I'm freaking out here! I hear that people are starting to get snailmail letters. I moved 2 months ago (after I sent off my primary and secondary). I figured it wasn't a big deal b/c I have the same e-mail. I changed my address with AACOM but not with every individual school.
I have been trying to get in touch with anyone at TOUROCOM to make sure my correct address is on file (just in case they want to send me one of those fancy acceptance letters!). But I cannot get anyone on the phone. The admissions voicemail is full. I know they had a flood and the phones and internet were damaged or whatnot ... but still ... argh!!!
Any suggestions?
Congrats to the latest people to get in ... and good luck to all the rest!!!
Ok ... back to crying and shaking in the corner of my office ...
for all you who recently interviewed, when did you send in your secondary applications? I just want to know what the turnover is...cause i talked to obed and he pretty much implied that ill get an interview, but my secondary is being sent to them in just a few hours...
this is by far my top choice of schools, and i have an apr 15 deadline for LARGE deposits on other schools...i hope i might know by then, is a month enough time? (please say yes):confused:
medtechdoc ... oh ok i remember you!. Yeah, I was the guy from Maryland that was in the unpaid cab.
OK, do I know I said I would not post anything until I heard from the school but I'm freaking out here! I hear that people are starting to get snailmail letters. I moved 2 months ago (after I sent off my primary and secondary). I figured it wasn't a big deal b/c I have the same e-mail. I changed my address with AACOM but not with every individual school.
I have been trying to get in touch with anyone at TOUROCOM to make sure my correct address is on file (just in case they want to send me one of those fancy acceptance letters!). But I cannot get anyone on the phone. The admissions voicemail is full. I know they had a flood and the phones and internet were damaged or whatnot ... but still ... argh!!!
Any suggestions?
Congrats to the latest people to get in ... and good luck to all the rest!!!
Ok ... back to crying and shaking in the corner of my office ...
call later in the day..i got in contact with obed around 515...but try calling the school and dialing dr sexters ext which is 2008 (bc he is away for the week) you will get their secretary (?) and ask for obed, she will connect you or leave a message...either way, its better than NOT being able to leave any sort of record of your call
139230 03-13-2007, 09:29 AM call later in the day..i got in contact with obed around 515...but try calling the school and dialing dr sexters ext which is 2008 (bc he is away for the week) you will get their secretary (?) and ask for obed, she will connect you or leave a message...either way, its better than NOT being able to leave any sort of record of your call
Thank you for the suggestion. I couldn't "hold my horses" anymore so I tried calling again. I was able to get in touch with Obed (I think, I didn't ask)!!!
They said their systems were down and they are now back online ... as of like earlier today. He stated that the decisions for the 27th and 28th should be e-mailed "shortly" ... I'm guessing a couple of days. And hard copies will follow in snailmail.
Not too sure how people are getting their hard copies first ... but doesn't really matter. Congrats you guys!
The Horrible Waiting: Round 2! ... ding ding ding
sortagrownup 03-13-2007, 11:59 AM I just managed to get in touch with Obed right now (around 1:55pm CST) and he said that they've just managed to get their system online and emails should be coming around, for interviews or otherwise.
Hope that helps those who've been trying to get in touch with them lately (like me).
confL 03-13-2007, 12:02 PM I interviewd on 2/14. I recieved my e-mail accpetance on Friday 2/23 and I got my official mail acceptance 3/9
L8TAppHope2GtIn 03-13-2007, 12:16 PM Hey guys, random question. When you mentioned Touro in the secondary, did you type TCOM, TouroCOM, or did you spell out Touro College of Osteopathic Medicine everytime you mentioned the school? Thanks!
139230 03-13-2007, 12:37 PM Hey guys, random question. When you mentioned Touro in the secondary, did you type TCOM, TouroCOM, or did you spell out Touro College of Osteopathic Medicine everytime you mentioned the school? Thanks!
I believe I put "Greatest School In The World and I'll Kiss You If I Get In COM" whenever I mentioned the school .... :)
I put TouroCOM throughout ... but put Touro College of Osteopathic Medicine for the first mention of the school.
jp104 03-13-2007, 12:46 PM I believe I put "Greatest School In The World and I'll Kiss You If I Get In COM" whenever I mentioned the school .... :)
I put TouroCOM throughout ... but put Touro College of Osteopathic Medicine for the first mention of the school.
I wrote "youz guyz" ala Goodfellas. :thumbup:
ecaballe 03-13-2007, 03:06 PM I just got an acceptance email about 20 min. ago!!! I interviewed on 2/27 and I was the one who watches a lot of TV and whose idea of an ice breaker was "So...Anyone here watch Hereos?"
You were all a fun group to interview with and I wish you all the best of luck! Hopefully I'll see you at Touro next year!!!!
medtechdoc 03-13-2007, 03:35 PM congratulations u guys!! I'm really really really hoping to join you guys.
I am soooo nervous right now...I wanna cry :scared:
anyone from 2/28 hear back yet??
clement 03-13-2007, 04:06 PM I just got an acceptance email about 20 min. ago!!! I interviewed on 2/27 and I was the one who watches a lot of TV and whose idea of an ice breaker was "So...Anyone here watch Hereos?"
You were all a fun group to interview with and I wish you all the best of luck! Hopefully I'll see you at Touro next year!!!!
Congrats! :thumbup: :thumbup: Now come play with the rest of us in the yahoo group or facebook! :D
bananayumboat 03-13-2007, 04:08 PM aww now u guys made me ultra nervous
highballa33 03-13-2007, 05:03 PM Hey guys just got my first acceptance :) Got the letter via snail mail. I interviewed on 2/28. My stats: 3.4 overall, 3.2ish sci, 25 mcat. I'd have a bit more enthusiasm but I haven't slept in 36 hours. Time to grab a beer then pass out. Good luck to everyone else!
medtechdoc 03-13-2007, 05:14 PM hey congratulations highballa33 :) ...hope to join u soon...btw which interviewee were u?
highballa33 03-13-2007, 05:20 PM I need someone to clarify what this says :rolleyes: My brain isn't fully functional right now.
1) Does my $1,000 tuition fee have to be received (or post-marked) by March 15th, considering I only get a little over a day to send it out?
NOTE: All accepted applicants are required to submit two deposits in order to secure a place in the Fall entering class. This includes a $2,000 non-refundable acceptance deposit (payable within two weeks after the date of the Letter of Acceptance) and a $1,000 tuition deposit due prior to May 15, 2007. These deposits will be fully applied toward your first semester’s tuition. The tuition deposit (1,000) is refundable provided cancellation is made prior to the first day of mandatory orientation.
THANKS for the help!
medtechdoc 03-13-2007, 06:18 PM I need someone to clarify what this says :rolleyes: My brain isn't fully functional right now.
1) Does my $1,000 tuition fee have to be received (or post-marked) by March 15th, considering I only get a little over a day to send it out?
NOTE: All accepted applicants are required to submit two deposits in order to secure a place in the Fall entering class. This includes a $2,000 non-refundable acceptance deposit (payable within two weeks after the date of the Letter of Acceptance) and a $1,000 tuition deposit due prior to May 15, 2007. These deposits will be fully applied toward your first semester’s tuition. The tuition deposit (1,000) is refundable provided cancellation is made prior to the first day of mandatory orientation.
THANKS for the help!
well it says "prior to May 15, 2007" so I would make sure it's there by May 14 if not a week earlier...hope this helps! :)
highballa33 03-13-2007, 06:36 PM Amazing. I didn't realize that it said "May 15th". I kept reading March 15th. I was freaking out because March 15th is approximately 28 hours away :eek: Again, sorry for my lack of cognitive function. I'm so sleep deprived, yet I can't seem to get away from SDN....... Thanks for clarification!
amathew 03-13-2007, 06:46 PM aww now u guys made me ultra nervous
you and me both...so people have been getting emails AND snail mails. Where the heck is my letter?!?!? WHY oh WHY does this happen to me????:scared:
Shuevee 03-13-2007, 08:59 PM I just got an acceptance email about 20 min. ago!!! I interviewed on 2/27 and I was the one who watches a lot of TV and whose idea of an ice breaker was "So...Anyone here watch Hereos?"
You were all a fun group to interview with and I wish you all the best of luck! Hopefully I'll see you at Touro next year!!!!
It's hard for me to say this, but I think Heroes is worth watching over 24 this year. Sounds like a very cool class this inaugural year. I love the enthusiasm. Can't wait to meet all of you. Good luck to all of you hoping to get in. If it's meant to be then it's meant to be. I didn't get into NYCOM and I'm starting to know why.
139230 03-15-2007, 06:28 AM anyone else from the 27th or 28th hear back yet either way????
bananayumboat 03-15-2007, 08:26 AM that would be a no from me... but seeing the people that got some obscure confirmation worries me.... i hoping its just the disorganization due to the flooding.... sigh...
peruanojp18 03-15-2007, 09:12 AM I called obed about an hour ago and he said the delay is due to the flood but they are working on sending out the emails. He then told me that I should hear back today, when I checked my email about 30 minutes later I had received an email from him, I'm on the wait list :( but i guess thats better than being rejected. So I recommend calling him, I got thru on the first try.
139230 03-15-2007, 09:20 AM sigh ... got my wait list e-mail today :(
good luck to everyone else ... hope you get in
sortagrownup 03-15-2007, 11:33 AM Has anyone gotten an interview invite email this week? I figured that since there seems to be a couple or so people who received post-interview emails today that the invite emails should be coming soon. I don't see why not ...
Pleadin2BaDO 03-15-2007, 12:44 PM To those who have gotten wait-listed at TOUROCOM, I was wondering if you would mind sharing your MCAT and GPA stats. I am just wondering where wait-listed students are falling stat wise. And ie what I might have to expect. THANKS
peruanojp18 03-15-2007, 01:09 PM Mcat: 25 Gpa: 3.2
bananayumboat 03-15-2007, 03:04 PM im waitlisted too.... and im really sad.. seems like alot more waitlisters this time than any other cycle? sigh... this is still my first choice school. but like u guys said.. its better than a rejection, but it just means we're gonna be stressing for a little while longer.. i wonder how long they are gonna wait to fill their class? if they wait till august i just might stab myself in the eye with all this waiting...
rangabou 03-15-2007, 03:40 PM im waitlisted too.... and im really sad.. seems like alot more waitlisters this time than any other cycle? sigh... this is still my first choice school. but like u guys said.. its better than a rejection, but it just means we're gonna be stressing for a little while longer.. i wonder how long they are gonna wait to fill their class? if they wait till august i just might stab myself in the eye with all this waiting...
I am waitlisted too.. I don't know what they are thinking. I was interviewed on march 6th. they accepted almost everyone before but now they are putting everyone on waiting list. they became more demanding..
i was hoping soo much... i am very upset...
good luck to you guys...
bananayumboat 03-15-2007, 03:48 PM u
bananayumboat 03-15-2007, 03:50 PM u know what i think personally? tho, this might be a little presumptuous and hopeful.. i think they waitlisted alot of people because they have so much to take care of right now with the flood and whatnot that they just sent them out so that they could placate us and make us stop calling. because before there were like no students waitlisted at all, and now its like everyone. they just might take us off without having us wait too long? their date for close is also june 1st.. meaning that application flow must have slowed... so maybe there arent that many more applicants and they know they can form a waitlist. i really have no idea. i know its wishful and kind of a good conclusion based on our situation, but its a possibility. keep in mind out of 60acceptances, 24 put down deposts as of end of feb. so... people arent taking them up on their offers either. i think we just gotta sit tight.
HEREs a question tho.
whats with this early acceptance candidate 2012 thingie...? feel free to take a stab at that if anyone has an idea.
seabreeze811 03-15-2007, 03:51 PM did the email indicate reasons why you were waitlisted and what u can do to improve your waitlisted status? my recommendation was to score higher on the MCAT...
bananayumboat 03-15-2007, 04:08 PM wait u got a recomendation? i just figured it was a general letter saying that i suck... haha jk jk. um no rec. are u refering to a paper letter or the email? oh and also, what was ure mcat, plz private message me if u wannaaa.
sortagrownup 03-15-2007, 06:16 PM Sorry about the waitlisting you guys. There's still hope; at least it wasn't an outright rejection. I'm guessing that with the volume of application they've received so far, not to mention the office flooding, they're just holding off from accepting people at the moment.
This whole waitlist thing is making me very nervous :(
For those of you guys that have been interviewed, what does the school's premises look like? I mean -- the buildings, offices, classrooms, lab rooms, etc.? I'm trying to look up pictures on their website but I can't find any. My sister is teasing me about the legitimacy of the school, considering that it's oh-so-new ...
KingN 03-15-2007, 06:40 PM u keep in mind out of 60acceptances, 24 put down deposts as of end of feb. so... people arent taking them up on their offers either. i think we just gotta sit tight.
Actually the number is closer to 45. And from what Obed told me a couple of days ago when I visited, the number of wait list etc. is only very slightly higher. Anyways there is of course plenty of hope, especially since you all interviewed relatively early. Good luck, I hope I see you all this August! :thumbup:
Hexanol 03-15-2007, 06:47 PM HEREs a question tho.
whats with this early acceptance candidate 2012 thingie...? feel free to take a stab at that if anyone has an idea.
um, here's a "stab" at it...
some schools actually do something like this. I know of Touro-Mare Island off the top of my head.
Basically it's a "if you're on the waitlist but still a really good applicant" OR a "Good applicant but we don't have space in this class for you".
Then, they basically accept you for the next coming class. So if they can't fit you into this year, you're automatically accepted into the next year (being class of 2012).
by the way, Goodluck to all of you! I interviewed Feb. 6 and was accepted but I definately know the feeling of being waitlisted and know the feeling of anxiousness and impatience due to just waiting. But just hang in there and I hope to hear that you got good news real soon!
Make sure you guys keep up with their office (although I know how hard it is to get through) because you definately want to keep them informed of anything that will make you a stronger applicant and moreso, to let them know you're still very interested in coming!
Hexanol 03-15-2007, 06:49 PM Sorry about the waitlisting you guys. There's still hope; at least it wasn't an outright rejection. I'm guessing that with the volume of application they've received so far, not to mention the office flooding, they're just holding off from accepting people at the moment.
This whole waitlist thing is making me very nervous :(
For those of you guys that have been interviewed, what does the school's premises look like? I mean -- the buildings, offices, classrooms, lab rooms, etc.? I'm trying to look up pictures on their website but I can't find any. My sister is teasing me about the legitimacy of the school, considering that it's oh-so-new ...
I believe that the building itself won't be finished until april. SO check back then!
highballa33 03-15-2007, 06:50 PM I really believe that the waitlist will move remarkably fast at Touro simply because many people will take acceptances to a more established school over a new one. There is hope for you waitlisters :luck:
amathew 03-15-2007, 07:09 PM hmm should i be worried that people from the march 6th interview have heard back, but i have heard zilch from them. Makes me wonder if I am flat out rejected or something. I called the school up today and they said they're a little slow, and I should hear back by Monday, and if not call obed, and gave me his extension - surprisingly, the same extension I called to talk to them at the moment. GAAAHHHH this is getting me all worked up again!!! :meanie: And I thought the interview actually went well!!! :scared:
amathew 03-15-2007, 07:10 PM oh, and for those who have heard from them, were these emails or snail mail?
Hexanol 03-15-2007, 07:36 PM oh, and for those who have heard from them, were these emails or snail mail?
don't worry! it'll only stress yourself out! wait till monday, then if you haven't heard anything by then, give him a call.
mine was through email then snail mail.
goodluck and let us know what happens!
bananayumboat 03-15-2007, 07:44 PM thanks for the insight.. i kinda thought it meant that im in either this year or the next, but that sorta sounded like good news that i made up for myself so i remained pessimistic.. i emailed just to make sure...
btw, got the email around 1130 this morning.
totally hoping for the best here.. congrats to everyone that got in and gluck to all those hoping :)
bananayumboat 03-15-2007, 07:45 PM i second that btw.. the fast moving theory that is.
rangabou 03-15-2007, 08:16 PM yess.
i am freaking out. angry... upset... all of that...
i am not sure what the email meant..
I doubt that we will either be class of 2011 or 2012...I think what they meant in the e-mail is that they will review waitlisted application from this year again in the early application pool next year. It doesnt mean that if we don't get in this year, we have a place secured for next year. but i guess we can always call to make sure exactly what they meant...
Also, i don't think the flood incident has anything to do with putting student on waitlist. They are becoming very choosy about accepting student; right now they are counting on students to apply who originally wanted to go to MD program but didn't get in. They only have 125 seats, aproximately 45 of them are filled, their deadline is june 1st, so if they fill all the seats now, they might not have any seats left for a really well qualified; high gpa high MCAT scores, graduated from a highly accredited private school, and etc. that they might want to take in. By putting ppl on waitlist, they are being on the safe side, that if no one better comes along, they will call you. They put us on wait list because they think we are good, but they are waiting for someone better. Its a little insulting on our part knowing that their seats aren't filled yet, but they are treating us like a 2nd class applicant. Its one thing to be waitlisted when seats are filled, but when seats arent filled, it only means one thing: if we are desperate we will call you.
I commend you for thinking positively because you should think positively, but i am just voicing my understanding of the situation. Good luck to all those who were waitlisted :(. If we are lucky, we will get called in the day before class. hehe
ecaballe 03-15-2007, 08:45 PM I got letters from email and regular mail in the same day. Good luck to the people who got waitlised. I'm hope everything turns out well!
rangabou 03-15-2007, 08:57 PM This is the exact content of what the e-mail stated regarding early accept:
"I also want to advise you that you will be considered as a candidate
for Early Accept to the Class of 2012 should you ultimately not be
offered acceptance to the Class of 2011."
...a lot of school has early acceptance pool, which is that, if it is your number one choice of school, then if you are offered admission, it is the only school you will attend. Not many school have this program, but I guess Touro will have that option. It allows them to take in applicant who they know will definately attend if offered admission. Thats what I think...
Feel free to make your own intrepretation of this "holy text"..hehe... because even though i have an idea of what it means, I am interested in knowing what you guyz think... because a part of me wants to believe that " if not this year, then definately next year!..hehehe...lol
Hexanol 03-16-2007, 04:27 AM This is the exact content of what the e-mail stated regarding early accept:
"I also want to advise you that you will be considered as a candidate
for Early Accept to the Class of 2012 should you ultimately not be
offered acceptance to the Class of 2011."
...a lot of school has early acceptance pool, which is that, if it is your number one choice of school, then if you are offered admission, it is the only school you will attend. Not many school have this program, but I guess Touro will have that option. It allows them to take in applicant who they know will definately attend if offered admission. Thats what I think...
Feel free to make your own intrepretation of this "holy text"..hehe... because even though i have an idea of what it means, I am interested in knowing what you guyz think... because a part of me wants to believe that " if not this year, then definately next year!..hehehe...lol
here's what i posted earlier...
um, here's a "stab" at it...
some schools actually do something like this. I know of Touro-Mare Island off the top of my head.
Basically it's a "if you're on the waitlist but still a really good applicant" OR a "Good applicant but we don't have space in this class for you".
Then, they basically accept you for the next coming class. So if they can't fit you into this year, you're automatically accepted into the next year (being class of 2012).
by the way, Goodluck to all of you! I interviewed Feb. 6 and was accepted but I definately know the feeling of being waitlisted and know the feeling of anxiousness and impatience due to just waiting. But just hang in there and I hope to hear that you got good news real soon!
Make sure you guys keep up with their office (although I know how hard it is to get through) because you definately want to keep them informed of anything that will make you a stronger applicant and moreso, to let them know you're still very interested in coming!
it's not about "definately attending or not attending". It's basically saying, you were a good applicant and Touro wants you at their school but didn't have room for you this class and is offering you admission into the next class.
Whether you accept or not is up to you. That's the system they have at Touro-Mare Island.
bananayumboat 03-16-2007, 05:02 AM here's what i posted earlier...
it's not about "definately attending or not attending". It's basically saying, you were a good applicant and Touro wants you at their school but didn't have room for you this class and is offering you admission into the next class.
Whether you accept or not is up to you. That's the system they have at Touro-Mare Island.
haha im glad to see im not the only one confused. see if thats the way to interpret the note then its not totally bad news, at least ure secure somewhere for sometime. i emailed issa asking what this means, when anyone finds out try to post up the offical interpretation!
139230 03-16-2007, 06:20 AM This is the exact content of what the e-mail stated regarding early accept:
"I also want to advise you that you will be considered as a candidate
for Early Accept to the Class of 2012 should you ultimately not be
offered acceptance to the Class of 2011."
...a lot of school has early acceptance pool, which is that, if it is your number one choice of school, then if you are offered admission, it is the only school you will attend. Not many school have this program, but I guess Touro will have that option. It allows them to take in applicant who they know will definately attend if offered admission. Thats what I think...
Feel free to make your own intrepretation of this "holy text"..hehe... because even though i have an idea of what it means, I am interested in knowing what you guyz think... because a part of me wants to believe that " if not this year, then definately next year!..hehehe...lol
I agree ... a lot of undergrad schools have this option (not too many med schools have it). If you are waitlisted and don't get in they can roll over your application into the next year's Early Applicant Pool. Early Application usually means that the school is your top choice and if you get accepted you will go there. The pros of Early Application is that you find out a decision from the school very early in the game (unless they say no, then your application goes into the "regular" applicant pile).
If the e-mail meant that you automatically get in next year it would have stated that you had been waitlisted for 2011 but are accepted in 2012 is not accepted in 2011. Instead it said a waitlister would be CONSIDERED as a CANDIDATE for 2012.
So does anyone know the final interview dates for touorocom? ... i heard june 1st maybe?
Anyone know if the waitlist will be ranked? ... I e-mailed Obed and if he responds I will post.
And for all of you who have multiple acceptances and are on the fence ... go elsewhere, tourocom sucks ... and is expensive ........ ummmm .... and only 20% of tourocom students pass the COMLEX ....
lol ... can you tell I'm on the waitlist????
Hexanol 03-16-2007, 07:04 AM I agree ... a lot of undergrad schools have this option (not too many med schools have it). If you are waitlisted and don't get in they can roll over your application into the next year's Early Applicant Pool. Early Application usually means that the school is your top choice and if you get accepted you will go there. The pros of Early Application is that you find out a decision from the school very early in the game (unless they say no, then your application goes into the "regular" applicant pile).
If the e-mail meant that you automatically get in next year it would have stated that you had been waitlisted for 2011 but are accepted in 2012 is not accepted in 2011. Instead it said a waitlister would be CONSIDERED as a CANDIDATE for 2012.
So does anyone know the final interview dates for touorocom? ... i heard june 1st maybe?
Anyone know if the waitlist will be ranked? ... I e-mailed Obed and if he responds I will post.
And for all of you who have multiple acceptances and are on the fence ... go elsewhere, tourocom sucks ... and is expensive ........ ummmm .... and only 20% of tourocom students pass the COMLEX ....
lol ... can you tell I'm on the waitlist????
From my understanding, this isn't the same thing as your typical undergraduate "early decision".
And NO, it is not an automatic acceptance for the Class of 2012!!!!
What it is, is a backdoor in. For those of you who are on the waitlist...
Waitlist means that you're a good applicant but they can't offer you a seat for the class as of the present moment. So, what Touro does, as with every other school in the US, is puts you on a waitlist and as the year progresses, they take people off the waitlist.
Now as the summer comes and as their class becomes filled what does Touro do with all the people they can't offer seats to???
Well, they review their files again and see if they want to accept them for the next upcoming class. If they say yes, you're given acceptance (since you've already applied and interviewed), and if they say no, then you have to apply again. It's as simple as that. Now, I say it's different from your typical early decision from undergrad because i believe that if you decide you do not want to take Touro up on it's offer to be accepted for the next class, you don't have to. But, you can reserve your seat by paying a deposit and then when a better offer comes along, withdraw if you like.
I remember my friends had to explain this system because they also use it at Touro-Mare Island.
bananayumboat 03-16-2007, 07:53 AM alright that makes sense.. i dont think that they're going to have us wait till then.. i mean its rolling admissions and as soon as they start seeing their app pool diminish they're gonna start pulling off the list.. also as far as MD kids who got rejected.. if they're steller, why would they go to a new school when they can go to the "best" DO schools instead... i doubt they would drip down that far. i wouldnt...
confL 03-16-2007, 07:57 AM I was just reading your posts and I thought I should shed some light. By the way congrats to all those accepted and going I'll see you this fall. And to those waitlisted I hope I get to see you as well. I just wanted to clear up a misconception... they did waitlist people from the first rounds of interview they just didn't post on sdn. I know because I interviewed on 2/14 and there were ppl who contacted me privately to say they got waitlisted... so they have been doing it all along. I don't know if they are doing it more so now then before, but they have. Good luck to all of you keep up the hope, you are all fighters and you'll achieve your goal one way or another.:)
bananayumboat 03-16-2007, 08:00 AM i heard june 1st was their close date for primaries...
rwlevin 03-16-2007, 09:21 AM also as far as MD kids who got rejected.. if they're steller, why would they go to a new school when they can go to the "best" DO schools instead... i doubt they would drip down that far. i wouldnt...
At this point they have no choice. All the other schools' deadlines have passed, for primaries at least. So they have a choice, wait another year for a second chance or apply now to go to school next year.
sortagrownup 03-16-2007, 09:48 AM also as far as MD kids who got rejected.. if they're steller, why would they go to a new school when they can go to the "best" DO schools instead... i doubt they would drip down that far. i wouldnt...
It's a bit too late in the process for them to apply anywhere else. And the draw of living in NYC might be a factor too.
This kinda concerns me a little. If these students barely didn't make it into an allopathic medical school (whether it's a horrible interview or borderline allopathic-school-average GPA/MCAT), and they apply to TouroNY, their numbers are pretty attractive for a school that's trying to establish themselves. Maybe at this early point in the school's history, they don't/wouldn't care as much whether or not the student is committed to the osteopathic philosophy as long as they have great students. I don't know.
I believe that the building itself won't be finished until april. SO check back then!
Good to know. Thanks for that!
Pleadin2BaDO 03-16-2007, 10:27 AM Do you guys tend to think that almost all students who apply are getting interviews?
Hexanol 03-16-2007, 10:43 AM It's a bit too late in the process for them to apply anywhere else. And the draw of living in NYC might be a factor too.
This kinda concerns me a little. If these students barely didn't make it into an allopathic medical school (whether it's a horrible interview or borderline allopathic-school-average GPA/MCAT), and they apply to TouroNY, their numbers are pretty attractive for a school that's trying to establish themselves. Maybe at this early point in the school's history, they don't/wouldn't care as much whether or not the student is committed to the osteopathic philosophy as long as they have great students. I don't know.
Good to know. Thanks for that!
i think you're starting to speculate now and that doesn't lead to a productive conversation :D furthermore, you just don't know enough of their applicant pool to even start making a judgement like the one you're starting to make.
Hexanol 03-16-2007, 10:45 AM Do you guys tend to think that almost all students who apply are getting interviews?
no, not true at all. i know many people who have submitted their primaries who didn't even get secondaries yet, and many people who have submitted their secondaries who have yet to be called for an interview.
Please remember that SDN is only a small fraction of the entire applicant pool. :D
139230 03-16-2007, 10:46 AM Do you guys tend to think that almost all students who apply are getting interviews?
I don't believe so. There were 800 applications by the end of January. They are only doing two interview dates each week, with about 8-12 interviewees per date. Assuming they will interview from January 1st through July 31st, they'll have 60 interview dates: interviewing between 480 and 720 applicants.
The 800 applicants in January obviously doesn't include all those who applied in Feb and March. Not to mention anyone who didn't get into different schools and decides to apply from here on out.
My best guess ... and that's EXACTLY what it is, a guess ... would be about a little more than half that send in secondaries will get an interview invite.
bananayumboat 03-16-2007, 10:54 AM I don't believe so. There were 800 applications by the end of January. They are only doing two interview dates each week, with about 8-12 interviewees per date. Assuming they will interview from January 1st through July 31st, they'll have 60 interview dates: interviewing between 480 and 720 applicants.
The 800 applicants in January obviously doesn't include all those who applied in Feb and March. Not to mention anyone who didn't get into different schools and decides to apply from here on out.
My best guess ... and that's EXACTLY what it is, a guess ... would be about a little more than half that send in secondaries will get an interview invite.
no school has the time, energy, or funds to interview everyone that submits an application
also, lets not get too crazy with the hypothesis.... i mean, as stated before, sdn is a small fraction of applicants, and there really is no way to deal with whats going on simply as an applicant, just handle waitlists as just that.. a wait. hope for the best, and do what u can, but really its up to the school no matter the reasoning for the waitlist or how they are going to handle them. we just gotta wait for the updates that we were told we were going to be getting, hopefully that will keep us on top of whats happening.
oh and seriously... not every person that applies to MD is steller... just so we have that out there.. just like not every person applying for DO is less than steller. a waitlist doesnt mean that ure a moron, it just means that they want a little time to think and reconsider, and they want to see if ure willing to stick around. there are quite a few people that i personally know that have 35 mcat and 3.7 GPAs and still rejected from med schools... there are other factors than just numbers as we ALL know by this time. sometimes schools dont take u cuz they know ure not gonna take them up on their offer, and some dont take u cuz ure lacking stuff they were particularly looking for. accepting 100 people that are going to turn TOURO down is not going to help them fill a class, esp when there were people within an acceptable grade range that could have performed equally well in medical school, and made them look just as good when the statistics about their first class comes out. so a DO is not necessarily a full on backup for MD's... ultimately we arent stupider than them... didnt mean to turn the beast on you but i needed to clarify that. sorry... i dont hate u... :)
Pleadin2BaDO 03-16-2007, 10:54 AM well that is really cool to hear then...feel more lucky to have been offered an interview than I already did
139230 03-16-2007, 11:18 AM no school has the time, energy, or funds to interview everyone that submits an application
also, lets not get too crazy with the hypothesis.... i mean, as stated before, sdn is a small fraction of applicants, and there really is no way to deal with whats going on simply as an applicant, just handle waitlists as just that.. a wait. hope for the best, and do what u can, but really its up to the school no matter the reasoning for the waitlist or how they are going to handle them. we just gotta wait for the updates that we were told we were going to be getting, hopefully that will keep us on top of whats happening.
oh and seriously... not every person that applies to MD is steller... just so we have that out there.. just like not every person applying for DO is less than steller. a waitlist doesnt mean that ure a moron, it just means that they want a little time to think and reconsider, and they want to see if ure willing to stick around. there are quite a few people that i personally know that have 35 mcat and 3.7 GPAs and still rejected from med schools... there are other factors than just numbers as we ALL know by this time. sometimes schools dont take u cuz they know ure not gonna take them up on their offer, and some dont take u cuz ure lacking stuff they were particularly looking for. accepting 100 people that are going to turn TOURO down is not going to help them fill a class, esp when there were people within an acceptable grade range that could have performed equally well in medical school, and made them look just as good when the statistics about their first class comes out. so a DO is not necessarily a full on backup for MD's... ultimately we arent stupider than them... didnt mean to turn the beast on you but i needed to clarify that. sorry... i dont hate u... :)
why was this a reply to my post???? ... lol
confL 03-16-2007, 11:27 AM :laugh: :laugh: This thread is getting hilarious.... if you read my above waitlist poster that I wrote and some other people pointed this out too... people from early rounds got rejected and waitlisted they just didn't post on sdn... sdn is not representative of the applicant pool so please don't make up crazy things that have no bearing... When I interviewed they had 800+ applicants they have only accepted prob around 70 at this time, so they have always been somewhat selective. So please do not "think" they are all of a sudden looking for "better" rejected MD applicants or some of the other crazy stuff posted. Everybody take a deep breath... you are all very smart, don't let the panic and hysteria of med applications start fanciful thoughts. Instead of worrying about what the med school is doing, ask when they are opening the waitlist, send in more recommendations, a letter of intent that will help more then this crazy speculation, of things that are most likely not true. You guys seem really dedicated so you'll become great physicians, I know it's hard I've had a few lapses in the past too, but don't let it make you crazy
L8TAppHope2GtIn 03-16-2007, 11:30 AM Touro received my secondary yesterday. IF they do decide to give me an interview, what would the date most likely be? Early April? Late April, may? Thanks guys.
clement 03-16-2007, 11:35 AM I was just reading your posts and I thought I should shed some light. By the way congrats to all those accepted and going I'll see you this fall. And to those waitlisted I hope I get to see you as well. I just wanted to clear up a misconception... they did waitlist people from the first rounds of interview they just didn't post on sdn. I know because I interviewed on 2/14 and there were ppl who contacted me privately to say they got waitlisted... so they have been doing it all along. I don't know if they are doing it more so now then before, but they have. Good luck to all of you keep up the hope, you are all fighters and you'll achieve your goal one way or another.:)
Good point...I think people may have gotten the impression they were taking in more applicants earlier on, however, that notion is very obviously skewed by who posts on SDN. A LOT of people read posts on SDN, but don't post. In fact, I'm willing to go so far as to say many of those who applied learned about the school's existence via SDN (I did).
Of that small fraction who actually do post, those accepted and then those waitlisted tend to post more openly. I was in the second group to ever nterview and even then, I heard of people not even getting the secondary and people being put on HOLD from my interview batch (not sure what the difference is)....
Though I have to say, it does make sense that they would start interviewing people with the intent of strongly leaning toward waitlisting, even before the interview itself (schools get to that point, though it's unethical for them to say so, this is what a dean of one school outright told me). It's only logical that they be more lenient very early on in the cycle and then tougher. I'm guessing this will extend itself beyond the cycle and into future years' applicants with the school building its rep and being in NYC.
sortagrownup 03-16-2007, 11:42 AM Sorry about that you guys :( Just airing out some niggling conspiracy theories; I thought it might therapeutic for me to share it with others in a similar situation. In retrospect though, it didn't really help out in an already stressful situation and my apologies for that.
clement 03-16-2007, 11:44 AM I was just reading your posts and I thought I should shed some light. By the way congrats to all those accepted and going I'll see you this fall. And to those waitlisted I hope I get to see you as well. I just wanted to clear up a misconception... they did waitlist people from the first rounds of interview they just didn't post on sdn. I know because I interviewed on 2/14 and there were ppl who contacted me privately to say they got waitlisted... so they have been doing it all along. I don't know if they are doing it more so now then before, but they have. Good luck to all of you keep up the hope, you are all fighters and you'll achieve your goal one way or another.:)
Good point...I think people may have gotten the impression they were taking in more applicants earlier on, however, that notion is skewed by who posts on SDN. While many people read posts, only a small fraction actually post. Of that small fraction, I think many of those accepted and then those waitlisted tend to post more openly. I'm willing to go so far as to say I'll bet a majority of those who apply learned about the school via SDN (I did), though I had been stalking their development from day one when people were saying "Touro-Harlem is a mirage" haha
I was in the second group to ever interview and even then, even then, I heard of people not getting the secondary and people being put on HOLD from my interview batch (not sure what the difference is)....
Though I have to say, it does make sense that they would start interviewing people with the intent of strongly leaning toward waitlisting, even before the interview itself (a lot of schools get to that point, one dean outright admitted that to me, but ya know, they don't really advertise that). It's only logical that they be more lenient very early on in the cycle and then pickier as the deposits roll in. I'm guessing this will extend itself beyond the cycle and into future years' applicants with the school building its rep and being in NYC. That said, congrats to anyone who got the secondary to begin with (knowing the cost you'd think they'd send it to everyone right?)!
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