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FutureDrO
03-25-2007, 11:56 AM
Hi Everyone! I just thought it would be interesting if the URM students who are currently in medical school could possibly share some information about their medical school experiences with the up and coming applicants. Here are a few questions I just thought of, but please share any more things that you think we should know! And for those who are at HBCUs, please share your experiences as well. What are the positives & negatives that come with being at an HBCU? Thanks :)

1) What medical school do you attend?
2) Is there a strong support system for URMs?
3) How diverse is your class?
4) Do you ever feel left out or do you feel that you are embraced by the rest of your classmates?
5) Have you experienced any type of racism?
5) Would you recommend your school to other URMs?
6) How has being a minority shaped your med school experiences?
7) Any tips and pieces of advice that you would like to share with other potential URM medical school students?

efex101
03-25-2007, 03:31 PM
1) What medical school do you attend?
Mayo Clinic College of Medicine
2) Is there a strong support system for URMs?
Absolutely! in a class of about 40 students at least 10% or more are URM. There is also a large diverse population (from all over the world). We have much support from the school. If there is something you need that is not offered all you have to do is ask.
3) How diverse is your class?
See above. Also, there are many non-traditional students which makes for even a more diverse class.
4) Do you ever feel left out or do you feel that you are embraced by the rest of your classmates?
Never felt left out at all.
5) Have you experienced any type of racism?
Never.
5) Would you recommend your school to other URMs?
Absolutely!
6) How has being a minority shaped your med school experiences?
It really has made no difference to be honest. We are just like anyone else and working just as hard.
7) Any tips and pieces of advice that you would like to share with other potential URM medical school students?
Yes, make sure that you get your hands on a book published by the AAMC called "Minority Student Opportunities in US Medicals Schools" or something to that effect. I went over that book ad nauseum while applying. It will list URM interviews, how many accepted and how many actually attended for all US schools. It will also list the contact info for the minority admission individual that can guide you through the process. Also, apply broadly, apply to as many as you can afford, and apply EARLY. I cannot emphasize that point enough! the earlier the better.

FutureDrO
03-26-2007, 09:17 PM
Thanks Efex.....your input is appreciated.:)
I know there are many more URM med students out there. Can you all please share any info you have with some fellow aspiring URM doctors?

enviromed21
03-27-2007, 10:18 AM
Thanks Efex.....your input is appreciated.:)
I know there are many more URM med students out there. Can you all please share any info you have with some fellow aspiring URM doctors?

I agree. I think this is an amazing thread idea. :thumbup:
I would love to hear what people think of their schools. :)

Person X
03-27-2007, 10:27 AM
This thread is awesome. Post more information from your schools. I am sure that it will help a lot of us.:thumbup:

Thanks

NightnDay79
04-19-2007, 05:47 PM
1) What medical school do you attend?
Drexel University College of Medicine
2) Is there a strong support system for URMs?
Most definitely, the school wants all there students to succeed and recognizes the importance of having URM in medicine. In addition to having student ran groups for concerns and stress, the school provides any counseling and support needed...free :)
3) How diverse is your class?
Diverse of approximately 15%. Class size total of ~220 students in two separate tracks.
4) Do you ever feel left out or do you feel that you are embraced by the rest of your classmates?
In some instances, yes, but I think that was from people already knowing each other from previous years and forming their own clique. With the majority of everyone, it was great because many people were in a new place with new friendships to make
5) Have you experienced any type of racism?

No
5) Would you recommend your school to other URMs?
Definitely, especially if their mcats are slightly low or their gpa is low. The school has a guarenteed acceptance program as long as you meet their criteria...~25 people. Email me if you want more information
6) How has being a minority shaped your med school experiences?
In the beginning I didn't think I would be to par with others, but I know that was just all in my head. If anything, I pushed myself stronger and decided to help out other URMs struggling. Now, I'm the top of the class :)
7) Any tips and pieces of advice that you would like to share with other potential URM medical school students?
We need to stay positive and see ourselves as belonging- not as being separate from everyone else. Unfortunately, I still have some classmates that feel that way and it only impedes possible networking and friendships you can make. Stay positive and realize you are living your dream

MarzMD
04-19-2007, 06:14 PM
1) What medical school do you attend?
U.Kentucky
2) Is there a strong support system for URMs?
The office of multicultural affairs is trying to do a lot this year
3) How diverse is your class?
5 African Americans out of a class of about 107, all male
4) Do you ever feel left out or do you feel that you are embraced by the rest of your classmates?
No
5) Have you experienced any type of racism?
No, but I have heard stories
5) Would you recommend your school to other URMs?
Im used to being the minority, so it does not bother me much. Others may have a different experience.
6) How has being a minority shaped your med school experiences?
Not that big of an issue for me.
7) Any tips and pieces of advice that you would like to share with other
Find a good study partner early and push each other. Also, dont self segregate yourself if you are in the minority.

freelove
05-21-2007, 08:06 PM
Nobody has anything else to offer?? A thread like this would really help out some of us who are getting ready to submit our AMCAS apps!!!

zippa
05-21-2007, 11:33 PM
I agree, I would love to heard about you experiences at your school.

freelove
05-24-2007, 11:58 AM
oh zippa. they don't seem to care about us. :p

FutureDrO
05-24-2007, 12:53 PM
I hope that they care a little more about us than it seems! :) Maybe we would have better luck if we posted this in the actual medical students forum? I know there has to be more minority medical students on SDN than those who have answered (Thanks to you all!! The information does help). Maybe they just aren't looking at this forum.

njbmd
05-24-2007, 03:45 PM
At some medical schools, the number of URMs is very, very small. In the spirit of keeping their identity anonymous, many might not want to post in a thread such as this.

Just because your thread is not getting the response that you desire does not always mean that the posters don't care or are not interested in being helpful.

LimitlessCat
05-27-2007, 04:08 PM
How about moving it to the mainstream forum? I just stumbled across this under represnted forum today and I know that many people probably don't know that this forum is up.
I'm going to be starting medical school in a few months and I'll be sure to post after one semester of being a UMICH med student.

FutureDrO
05-29-2007, 09:42 AM
The above poster echoed my thoughts. Is there anyway that one of the administrators could move this forum or a provide a link to this forum in the main premed or med students forums? Does that sound like a good idea?

QofQuimica
05-30-2007, 11:39 AM
The above poster echoed my thoughts. Is there anyway that one of the administrators could move this forum or a provide a link to this forum in the main premed or med students forums? Does that sound like a good idea?
There already is a link to this forum under the premedical forums category.

I think that njbmd is right that many people probably do not feel comfortable posting too many personal details here. Even at schools with large classes, med school is a very small world where everyone knows everyone's business. Some medical school administrators also read SDN and are able to identify posters based on what may seem like relatively limited info. If someone were unhappy at their school, it would be very foolish for them to post that information on SDN, as we are not anonymous to people who know us in real life.

What I recommend that you do if you want to learn more about student experiences at a specific school is to contact the diversity office at that school (or the admissions office) and ask them to put you in touch with some of their URM students who would be willing to talk to you about their school. Be careful, though; don't ever ask a student about problems at their school by email, especially if they're using their school account. Again, if someone is unhappy with their school, leaving an email trail about their complaints is a very bad idea and could get them into even more trouble.

LadyJubilee8_18
08-14-2007, 11:22 PM
1) What medical school do you attend?

BCM (Baylor college of medicine)

2) Is there a strong support system for URMs?
Baylor is really good about getting the minorities together and forming a support group right from the start. We have a special accepted minority week for incoming URMs, we've got a care of the undeserved tract that focuses on minority needs in medicine (mostly URMs take these courses), SNMA is very active, NNLAMS is also very active (Latin American students) we've got mentors, and the upperclassmen are always sharing information and advice with the lowerclassmen. We've got a nice little network.

3) How diverse is your class?
My class is very diverse, but it varies from year to year. My particular year is almost 30% URM. We've got 16 African American students. In contrast, the year below me has only 4 African Americans. I'm not sure what happened, but we need to get those numbers up (hint, hint you URM pre-meds).

4) Do you ever feel left out or do you feel that you are embraced by the rest of your classmates?
Sometimes. I've always gone to much more diverse schools where the average SES is much lower. I think I feel left out because most people come from different backgrounds, and have different experiences and ways to relate to people. Medicine is a bit of a culture shock for me. Most people in my class do not try to make URMs feel left out, though.

5) Have you experienced any type of racism? Some very low key stuff. For example, during a sickle cell lab, the TA was like, "Lets see what the black students think about these slides," and everyone looked over and stared at us, our STD lecture featured almost exclusively pictures of blacks with STDs, when everyone was describing different cultural remedies, some kid said, "What is this the 'my culture is dumber than your culture' hour?" Things like that. People can be ignorant, or insensitive, but no one is overtly racist (that I know of).

5) Would you recommend your school to other URMs?
Certainly! The students and faculty make the school very comfortable for URMs. We're always trying to recruit. We also have lots of opportunities for community outreach. PM me for more info.

6) How has being a minority shaped your med school experiences?
It makes me painfully aware of the disparities that affect my community. I think I view medicine from a unique prospective that makes me want to deliver better care to minority areas. Also, I've got sort of a built-in tight-knit group of friends who I know I can go to for help and support. I've got more responsibilities than the average medical student, but also more privileges.

7) Any tips and pieces of advice that you would like to share with other potential URM medical school students? Apply early!! Also, make sure you get in contact with the minority coordinators at each school. The coordinator at Baylor really gave me some great opportunities to further my medical career when I was in undergrad. He also put me in contact with other important administrators at Baylor, and I think this really helped me get my foot in the door. Make contacts, and don't be afraid to be obnoxious and in their faces. If they know your name and your face, instead of just your numbers, you are much more likely to be accepted. They really want to know you are interested.

DoctaJay
09-23-2007, 03:55 PM
I thought this was a great thread, and now that alot more of us have started school, maybe we can add to this thread and make it an even better resource. Here's my take:



1) What medical school do you attend?
Loma Linda Univ. SOM

2) Is there a strong support system for URMs?
Not particularly, but the upper classmen and the practicing URM physicians have been pretty supportive. Most of the URM who come here already knew the other URMs in the class, so kind of support each other alot.

3) How diverse is your class?
Out of 195, we have like 15 black and about 5 hispanic. Last years class only had 5 URMs out of 195, so we are doing pretty well this year. We also have like 57 married people in our class, which is pretty cool.

4) Do you ever feel left out or do you feel that you are embraced by the rest of your classmates?
I feel left out a little less since I'm married so I dont really need my classmates to hang out with, but many of them are really friendly. There are some that are really quiet, and won't talk to you even if you look straight in their eyes, but the good ones greatly outnumber that bad ones. I have also noticed that alot of people came to LLU already knowing their classmates (especially those from the adventist schools), so while it may seem like the white classmates are onl talk to each other, its because the went to undergrad with each other. Alot are really nice when you get to know them.

5) Have you experienced any type of racism?
The school doesn't have a great track record with it, but the times have changed and I haven't noticed anything even resembling racism. And none of my URM classmates have noticed anything either.

5) Would you recommend your school to other URMs?
Definietely. This school is great and they really teach you great clinical skills and their lectures are geared basically for "What you need to know for the boards". Also their dedication to medical missions is truly outstanding.

6) How has being a minority shaped your med school experiences?
It makes me more aware about the lack of minorities in certain situations, but other than that, nothing really.

7) Any tips and pieces of advice that you would like to share with other potential URM medical school students?
Don't believe that you are inferior to any other race or that you are better than any other race. All of the URMs in my class passed our first block of tests and many of us scored above the class average. If a school accepted you, its because you can handle the coursework and because they want you to be a doctor. It may be hard not to look clickish by always hanging out with fellow URMs in your class, but try to branch out a little and form friendships, because these people will be your colleagues are bosses in the future.

AgieMD08
09-27-2007, 08:46 AM
1) What medical school do you attend?
UMDNJ Robert Wood Johnson Medical School

2) Is there a strong support system for URMs?
In Piscataway there is an Office of Multicultural Affairs that is supportive of all minority students, especially URMs. In Camden the Dean's office as a whole is supportive of all students and does its best to act fairly and in the best interest of the students.

3) How diverse is your class?
I started out in the c/o 07 and there were approximately 25 of us of African American, African and Caribbean/West Indian descent. In the class as a whole there were probably 40 countries represented by non-white students. Although the number of URMs has declined, in the c/o there is a fair number of URM students however we like other med schools are lacking in the number of URM males!

4) Do you ever feel left out or do you feel that you are embraced by the rest of your classmates?
I always felt embraced by my classmates and school as a whole.

5) Have you experienced any type of racism?
No.

5) Would you recommend your school to other URMs?
Definietely. The school is not well know outside of the NY/NJ/CT tri-state area but offers an excellent education, excellent research opportunities, and excellent opportunities for international study. The SNMA and Salud are also very, very active at RWJMS.

6) How has being a minority shaped your med school experiences?
It makes me more aware of the lack of URM males in medicine and of the shortage of URMs in healthcare. It makes me all the more committed to practicing medicine in an underserved area and mentoring youth who look like me. It motivates me to encourage URMs to seek careers in medicine.

7) Any tips and pieces of advice that you would like to share with other potential URM medical school students?
Don't believe the hype that you don't have the grades or the scores to apply and get into med school and subsequently succeed. Study hard, take a prep class. You must be committed to working hard to get into and STAY in school. It is a long road but the rewards are many.

Once in school be open to forming relationships with your classmates, not just those who look like you. Use your faculty as a resource.

Know that if you get in, you deserve to be there just as much as the next person. Do your best to excel and get involved in organizations and your community.

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FutureDrO
09-27-2007, 10:43 AM
Thanks to all of you who have decided to breathe life back into this thread and share such valuable information with all of us! Please keep it coming! :)

MSKalltheway
10-07-2007, 04:39 AM
1) What medical school do you attend?
The University of Maryland School of Medicine

2) Is there a strong support system for URMs?
I feel this is the case. SNMA is by far one of the most active student groups with involvement from all classes, and minorities hold many admin positions. I have heard Dean Reece (he's A-A) is very interested, and strong in his belief that any events/happenings we do be integrated and well represented by all the class.

3) How diverse is your class?
I believe there are 16% URM's in my class. Straight numbers, that amounts to around 25 out of approx. 160. I'm not sure about the breakdowns of specific cultures though.

4) Do you ever feel left out or do you feel that you are embraced by the rest of your classmates?
Many of my classmates are great people, so if I ever "feel" my race, it's in a good way.

5) Have you experienced any type of racism?
No. It would be one of the last places I would expect it from, honestly.

5) Would you recommend your school to other URMs?
Absolutely.

6) How has being a minority shaped your med school experiences?
It was a wake-up call to me when my mother called me after my first week or so and asked me "how many of 'us' are there?" I don't feel like there are too few URMs in general, but I was surprised when I could count the number of African American males on one hand...and I took up one of those fingers. I definitely feel as though there are too few males going into this profession, and I know that this is not just the case in Maryland.

Also, being in Baltimore, I see a lot of the social issues that give rise to the concerns about the African American community specifically. My best friend (also an A-A male, we literally grew up as brothers) moved down here this summer and works in the school system while getting his masters, and he echoes the same sentiments. Many of the youth these days are going by the wayside, and this is one of those fields you can really reach out and touch someone to work for a better life.

7) Any tips and pieces of advice that you would like to share with other potential URM medical school students?
Just ignore what you may hear about being a URM and having an "advantage". If it does exist it is insignificant, because for every 1 URM that I know made it into med school, I can name you 5 URMs that did not make it, just like a non-URM. NO ONE makes it through this process if they are not qualified, so study hard, make sure your grades, scores, and everything else is in line, because that "help" that supposedly exists can "help" someone else out.

Also, when you get into medical school, make sure that whenever you see anyone in clinic that you feel is from a disadvantaged background, ESPECIALLY if they are at an age that getting some kind of education would be easier (obviously if they are a kid or teen, or even in their early to mid 20's), ask them what they want to do when they grow up, or what they are doing. Encourage them to get an education; if they need advice on how to go about getting one or finding money to do it, you can direct them in doing so. You have to ask occupation and education questions in the Social History portion of the H&P anyway, so an extra 1-2 minutes to ask/encourage/counsel them cant hurt. It's a small contribution on your end that could mean everything to them...even as a med student, you will be the one in the white coat, so if you are doing it, they may think they can too.


PS shoutout to AgieMD08, I interviewed at UMDNJ-RWJ and I LOVED it there. If not for Maryland, I probably would have gone there. (On a note related to this thread, I met the MS-IV Class President on the interview day, he was an A-A male, and I got the sense that there is a good support system there as well)

bellacnella
10-07-2007, 07:42 PM
1) What medical school do you attend?
The University of Maryland School of Medicine

2) Is there a strong support system for URMs?
I feel this is the case. SNMA is by far one of the most active student groups with involvement from all classes, and minorities hold many admin positions. I have heard Dean Reece (he's A-A) is very interested, and strong in his belief that any events/happenings we do be integrated and well represented by all the class.

3) How diverse is your class?
I believe there are 16% URM's in my class. Straight numbers, that amounts to around 25 out of approx. 160. I'm not sure about the breakdowns of specific cultures though.

4) Do you ever feel left out or do you feel that you are embraced by the rest of your classmates?
Many of my classmates are great people, so if I ever "feel" my race, it's in a good way.

5) Have you experienced any type of racism?
No. It would be one of the last places I would expect it from, honestly.

5) Would you recommend your school to other URMs?
Absolutely.

6) How has being a minority shaped your med school experiences?
It was a wake-up call to me when my mother called me after my first week or so and asked me "how many of 'us' are there?" I don't feel like there are too few URMs in general, but I was surprised when I could count the number of African American males on one hand...and I took up one of those fingers. I definitely feel as though there are too few males going into this profession, and I know that this is not just the case in Maryland.

Also, being in Baltimore, I see a lot of the social issues that give rise to the concerns about the African American community specifically. My best friend (also an A-A male, we literally grew up as brothers) moved down here this summer and works in the school system while getting his masters, and he echoes the same sentiments. Many of the youth these days are going by the wayside, and this is one of those fields you can really reach out and touch someone to work for a better life.

7) Any tips and pieces of advice that you would like to share with other potential URM medical school students?
Just ignore what you may hear about being a URM and having an "advantage". If it does exist it is insignificant, because for every 1 URM that I know made it into med school, I can name you 5 URMs that did not make it, just like a non-URM. NO ONE makes it through this process if they are not qualified, so study hard, make sure your grades, scores, and everything else is in line, because that "help" that supposedly exists can "help" someone else out.

Also, when you get into medical school, make sure that whenever you see anyone in clinic that you feel is from a disadvantaged background, ESPECIALLY if they are at an age that getting some kind of education would be easier (obviously if they are a kid or teen, or even in their early to mid 20's), ask them what they want to do when they grow up, or what they are doing. Encourage them to get an education; if they need advice on how to go about getting one or finding money to do it, you can direct them in doing so. You have to ask occupation and education questions in the Social History portion of the H&P anyway, so an extra 1-2 minutes to ask/encourage/counsel them cant hurt. It's a small contribution on your end that could mean everything to them...even as a med student, you will be the one in the white coat, so if you are doing it, they may think they can too.


PS shoutout to AgieMD08, I interviewed at UMDNJ-RWJ and I LOVED it there. If not for Maryland, I probably would have gone there. (On a note related to this thread, I met the MS-IV Class President on the interview day, he was an A-A male, and I got the sense that there is a good support system there as well)



Who am I gonna date in med school?? :scared: LOL j/k! Thanks for your input. It really touched me esp. the part about encouraging others (this is my philosophy too). Its also refreshing to know that my future classmates won't be as close-minded as some of the ppl of SDN.

People, keep them coming!

freelove
10-09-2007, 07:21 PM
1) What medical school do you attend?
The University of Maryland School of Medicine

2) Is there a strong support system for URMs?
I feel this is the case. SNMA is by far one of the most active student groups with involvement from all classes, and minorities hold many admin positions. I have heard Dean Reece (he's A-A) is very interested, and strong in his belief that any events/happenings we do be integrated and well represented by all the class.

3) How diverse is your class?
I believe there are 16% URM's in my class. Straight numbers, that amounts to around 25 out of approx. 160. I'm not sure about the breakdowns of specific cultures though.

4) Do you ever feel left out or do you feel that you are embraced by the rest of your classmates?
Many of my classmates are great people, so if I ever "feel" my race, it's in a good way.

5) Have you experienced any type of racism?
No. It would be one of the last places I would expect it from, honestly.

5) Would you recommend your school to other URMs?
Absolutely.

6) How has being a minority shaped your med school experiences?
It was a wake-up call to me when my mother called me after my first week or so and asked me "how many of 'us' are there?" I don't feel like there are too few URMs in general, but I was surprised when I could count the number of African American males on one hand...and I took up one of those fingers. I definitely feel as though there are too few males going into this profession, and I know that this is not just the case in Maryland.

Also, being in Baltimore, I see a lot of the social issues that give rise to the concerns about the African American community specifically. My best friend (also an A-A male, we literally grew up as brothers) moved down here this summer and works in the school system while getting his masters, and he echoes the same sentiments. Many of the youth these days are going by the wayside, and this is one of those fields you can really reach out and touch someone to work for a better life.

7) Any tips and pieces of advice that you would like to share with other potential URM medical school students?
Just ignore what you may hear about being a URM and having an "advantage". If it does exist it is insignificant, because for every 1 URM that I know made it into med school, I can name you 5 URMs that did not make it, just like a non-URM. NO ONE makes it through this process if they are not qualified, so study hard, make sure your grades, scores, and everything else is in line, because that "help" that supposedly exists can "help" someone else out.

Also, when you get into medical school, make sure that whenever you see anyone in clinic that you feel is from a disadvantaged background, ESPECIALLY if they are at an age that getting some kind of education would be easier (obviously if they are a kid or teen, or even in their early to mid 20's), ask them what they want to do when they grow up, or what they are doing. Encourage them to get an education; if they need advice on how to go about getting one or finding money to do it, you can direct them in doing so. You have to ask occupation and education questions in the Social History portion of the H&P anyway, so an extra 1-2 minutes to ask/encourage/counsel them cant hurt. It's a small contribution on your end that could mean everything to them...even as a med student, you will be the one in the white coat, so if you are doing it, they may think they can too.


PS shoutout to AgieMD08, I interviewed at UMDNJ-RWJ and I LOVED it there. If not for Maryland, I probably would have gone there. (On a note related to this thread, I met the MS-IV Class President on the interview day, he was an A-A male, and I got the sense that there is a good support system there as well)

ooh, yay! Great news... I love Maryland. Sigh.

medhacker
10-13-2007, 05:46 PM
1) What medical school do you attend?

The philadelphia College of osteopathic medicine

2) Is there a strong support system for URMs?

Not sure, I don't attend classes much.

3) How diverse is your class?

Not much, about 4 AA males, about 6 AA females, about 3 latino/hispanic males, about 1 latino/hispanic female out of a class of about 270

4) Do you ever feel left out or do you feel that you are embraced by the rest of your classmates?

I don't attend much, but judging by how my fellow URMs get along with the rest of the class we seem to be pretty embraced by the entire class.


5) Have you experienced any type of racism?

No

5) Would you recommend your school to other URMs?

Yes, I think PCOM is a great school, great resources, passionate faculty, great networking and great reputation.



6) How has being a minority shaped your med school experiences?

I am very often reminded of where I came from and how much our communities need us.

7) Any tips and pieces of advice that you would like to share with other potential URM medical school students?

Try to learn spanish while in medschool. If some of your classmates speak spanish, try to organize a weekly session of spanish tutoring, so that you may be even more useful to the spanish speaking community in the U.S.

If you ever come accross an immigrant patient, please, regardless of her/his insured/noninsured - documented/undocumented status, treat her/his situation as a national issue and not a political/immigrant issue. We are already here, let's treat human beings as human beings. If you ever witness a health provider discriminating against an immigrant because of her country of origin or lack of language proficiency, please report it to the respectice authorities at your site of work.

Yourmother
11-16-2007, 01:59 AM
I agree, I would love to heard about you experiences at your school.

Unfortunately, that is not the only school in that state with those experiences.

Tee Cell
11-16-2007, 04:12 PM
1) What medical school do you attend?

Uconn

2) Is there a strong support system for URMs?

Boy is there ever. The HCOP office is there specifically for minority students. Full scholarships are offered for post bac and med school. It's a small school usually about or less than 90 medical students. About 10-15 are minority students.

3) How diverse is your class?

Not to bad, like I said about 10-15 black students. Not a large hispanic population there though. A sprinkle of minority faculty.

4) Do you ever feel left out or do you feel that you are embraced by the rest of your classmates?

Its a great small family like atmosphere. It has a pass fail system. I think this helps. So you don't get the dog eat dog kind of people. Also med student interview applicants and can sit in on the admission committee to help select cool laid back people. Everyone is friendly

5) Have you experienced any type of racism?

nope,

5) Would you recommend your school to other URMs?

Yes

6) How has being a minority shaped your med school experiences?

Unfortunately being a minority (especially a male minority) means that unless you go to a HBCU your are prob the only black person or maybe one of two in your science class. It was great to see so many black people so motivated and so cohesive as a group.

When I was a third year med student, I was walking to clinic and this older black lady (who could be anyone's grandmother) came up to me in my white coat and said " I'm vey proud of you" I never saw the lady before but said thank you and pretended I knew her for fear it was someone I knew but didn't recognize. But it made me think. In big cities there are few role models (real ones not ones with a mic or a basketball in there hand) I don't know about anyone else but before med school I only saw one black doctor my whole life

7) Any tips and pieces of advice that you would like to share with other potential URM medical school students?

Do your homework. Research and network to find out as much info as you can because there are a lot of programs out there designed for minority students to help with tuition cost, scholarships, admission to medical school, dental school, post bac, etc. SNMA NMA are great resourses

And once you get in and reach your goal... Don't forget to reach back and pull the next man (or woman) up. God knows we need more role models

titanjones
01-19-2008, 02:32 PM
Im a 4th year medical student

1) What medical school do you attend?
Boston University

2) Is there a strong support system for URMs?
The ONLY reason I decided no return to Miami, or stay in atlanta where I did undergrad is because BU is not only an excellent program, but they also have TONS of resources devoted to minority recruitment and retention. The office of minority affiars is dedicated to all of our needs and always available for academic and personal advice alike

3) How diverse is your class?
Probably pretty typical of all medical schools. I entered BU throught a special pathway program the Early medical school selection program (EMSSP) which anually contributes 15 minorities to the school. About 1-4 other black students come in through the tradiional route. BU accepts about 150 students for each class. So thats about 15 black ppl a class, and maybe a sprinkle of latino's here and there 5-7 a year. Mainly white kids, and a bunch of indians and asian kids. Most of the blacks are girls, about 1-3 black guys right now in each year of medical school.

4) Do you ever feel left out or do you feel that you are embraced by the rest of your classmates?
Pretty Isolated. Not only am I black, but Im also a black male. Not many of us to go around. Being a Morehouse Man I was surrounded by really cool smart people who knew how to party. You definitely dont find those kinds of people at my med school. Having different cultural upbringings also makes a huge difference in forming friendships. I frequently felt left out when Id be hanging out with a bunch of white male classmates drinking then somone says a funny like from some whack movie like Porky's, or reciting some dave matthews liric and everyone would be laughing and stuff having a good time and I would sit there now knowing what they were talking about. It was almost impossible to find a study group also. The indian kids would share tests among each other and not share them. The asian kids would share tests among each other and not share them. I luckily got a few because I would have a homie or two who would hook me up.

Also people would intentionally not help you out! I was in a study group with an indian dude, an asian guy and a white girl. During my 1st year we studied together like 1 or 2 times a week. I remember the night before an exam we were studying I look over the indian guys shoulder and he has this reaaaly good printout of somones typed Microbiology notes that were really high-yield. I was like "what is that?". Hes like "oh..its some stuff -somone- gave me...do you want a copy?" This happened THE DAY BEFORE THE TEST. Clearly not enought time to read all 50 pages of notes. Everyone else in the group had it for several weeks already and had found it to be very very useful, and for some reason it did not come to their attention that i would LIKEWISE find that to be helpful. Needless to say after that i stopped studying with them.

Bottom-line....Ive been at BU for 4 years or so, and of the 150 classmates that I have I can only call about 10 people my friend. Ive been told by older black attendings that this is normal and just the culture of the field. Your always going to be an outsider, your always going to stand out and be scrutized more, and your not going to get the same breaks others will get. Just got to suck it up.

5) Have you experienced any type of racism?
Not racism but definitely preferential treatment.

5) Would you recommend your school to other URMs?
Hells yea. The clinical training you recieve there is bar none the BEST in the east coast, surpassing Harvard. This has been confirmed by multiple attendings that Ive worked with. Despite most people in the med school being Type A, and you feeling left out frequently ,all the black folk stick together and help each other out. If it wasnt for the other kinfolk id have nobody to study with and wouldnt have made it out of medical school. Also BOSTON if FULL of young talented professional black folk who are really friendly so socially its not lacking much.

6) How has being a minority shaped your med school experiences?
i just love the idea of me being a young brotha who's about to be a doctor.

7) Any tips and pieces of advice that you would like to share with other potential URM medical school students?
Goto BU, you wont regret it! Especially on Match Day :thumbup::D:thumbup:

FutureDrO
01-21-2008, 11:31 AM
Thanks Titan and everyone else who are sharing their experiences, while keeping it real, and keeping this thread alive!:clap:

dseattle
07-07-2008, 05:24 PM
1) What medical school do you attend?
ATSU - School of Osteopathic Medicine in Arizona

2) Is there a strong support system for URMs?
Not really for first year, second year maybe.

3) How diverse is your class?
2 black students, 3 native americans, ~5 latinos, and a handful of asians (mostly of indian descent)

4) Do you ever feel left out or do you feel that you are embraced by the rest of your classmates?
We've had two class discussions on race and diversity in healthcare total.

5) Have you experienced any type of racism?
Nothing directly, just overheard some ignorant statements:
"Why have a multicultural student organization?"
"If minorities will be in the majority by 2015, then they should stop complaining."
"I have a black friend"

5) Would you recommend your school to other URMs?
Yes, if they want to serve in URM/underserved communities at Community Health Centers that understand issues of inequality and stratification in health care.
http://www.atsu.edu/soma/medschool_future/community_health_centers.htm


6) How has being a minority shaped your med school experiences?
Its just weird to transition from undergrad with a very strong minority and multicultural community to one that has none. Also, its hard to find folks to vent with and who understand URM issues. Being a minority in medicine is a constant reminder of the reality of how the world works and it is important to fight for what you believe in, using whatever resources and networks are available.

7) Any tips and pieces of advice that you would like to share with other potential URM medical school students?
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