Hahahaha!! I am so happy right now. Words can't express!!!!!!!!! Thank you God!!! I know I had help from above.

I took my DAT today. This is what I got:

AA 23
TS 25
PAT 20

This is what I thought:
RC: I had the retarded ethical passage. It was over 20 paragraphs and had a bunch of philosophical terminology that made me stare at the screen with a blank face. I know I could've scored higher if I didn't get that damn passage.

QR: IT WAS NOT THAT BAD!!!!! I learned from SDN that you should skip long word problems - that's what I did. I think I guessed on 15 questions!!!!!!! As long as you get the 25 right your awesome. DON'T TRY TO FIGURE OUT A PROBLEM- YOU EITHER KNOW HOW TO DO IT IN 5 STEPS OR LESS OR YOU DON'T AND IF YOU DON'T THEN SKIP IT! The way I prepared was making sure that I could multiply FAST in my head, so I practiced the multiplication table. This might sound funny, but I used to multiply big numbers like this: 12 * 9 = 3 * 4 * 9. :laugh: Remember: speed is key here. I also used a Kaplan SAT math prep book. It was good. I'd recommend it.

PAT: like Crack DAT PAT.

GC/OC: I am pretty pissed off about OC. (Please don't take that the wrong way). I am just mad because there were 2 wrong problems in OC. I am 100% sure they were wrong, and if I posted them here, you would agree. But anyway, OC/GC are my strong points.

Bio: Used the Kaplan blue book AND Kaplan bio MCAT book. There were three questions that were in the MCAT book and not in the blue book. Basically the Kaplan MCAT book goes into 150% more detail than the DAT blue book (but it does not cover plant physiology or taxonomy). So what I am trying to say is complement with these two books. Understand them inside and out and you will get a score like mine.:)

By the way, I had the FRAP question. Not that bad. Just read up on it and understand WHY it's an important assay and what possible information can it tell you about the cell membrane.

By the way, I will probably be selling my study materials (I will first check with my pre-dental friends, to see if they want to buy them).

Materials I used:
Kaplan
Kaplan MCAT bio book
Schaums Bio (only read one chapter, but heard it's helpful)
Achiever
Destroyer - overrated. The only good thing here is the OC. Bio is riddled with mistakes (14 in total)

Practice test scores: Achiever and Kaplan test were a close approximation:
AA/PAT/QR/RC/BIO/GC/OC/TS
Kaplan Diagnostic: 19/14/18/18/19/24/25/22
Kaplan midterm: 17.67/21/15/18/20/24/20/20
Test 1: 21/22/21/19/23/23/25/23
Achiever 1: 22/17/22/22/24/23/23/23
Achiever 2: 20/18/20/17/20/19/28/21
Achiever 3: Only QR: 19

Anyway, let me know what you guys think. I know its a good score. But I am applying late. I still need to send it my secondaries. Do you think I will get considered for this cycle. I mean, most people already had their interviews.

Let me know.

DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!

With those scores and GPA... you're in..

Wow. Very nice! That is a fantastic score and GPA! Smooth sailing from here.

Man... I kinda hate you right now. Good job though :thumbup:

I think you're set. Congrats!

First off... nice job man. I'm hoping to replicate similar for my retake.

Second, when you mean Kaplan mcat bio book, are you talking about the kaplan mcat comprehensive review, or something else ?

First off... nice job man. I'm hoping to replicate similar for my retake.

Second, when you mean Kaplan mcat bio book, are you talking about the kaplan mcat comprehensive review, or something else ?

Thanks man. Your scores are good, why do you want to retake?

It's the "MCAT Biological Sciences Review Notes" I think that you can only get it if you sign up for a MCAT class with Kaplan. That's how I got it (I took the MCAT's, then switched to dentisty). That book is so awesome. For example, I had one question on neurulation. The DAT blue book doesn't even cover that topic, so I wouldn't have gotten the question right if it wasn't for the MCAT book.

are there really 14 wrong answers on the Bio section of Destroyer? I have it and would like to know which are wrong...

are there really 14 wrong answers on the Bio section of Destroyer? I have it and would like to know which are wrong...

Here are the ones I remember. I would have to go through the destroyer to find the other ones. As much as I want to help you, I don't want to do that right now :D Maybe in a few days...

Disclaimer: I don't want to get into arguments. I did look into more than one source to confirm my suspicions. Here they go....

Destroyer:
#6: In the answer key it says that phosphorylase catalyzes the hydrolytic cleavage of a phosphate ester bond. In fact it is phosphatase. Phosphorylase is involved in phosphorolysis (ex: hydrolyzing glycogen with a phosphate group - the role of glycogen phosphorylase)

#50: It says that oxygen and water are by products of light reactions in photosynthesis. Only oxygen is a by product, water is cleaved (used up).

#100: Orgomans answer is 25%. But the question asks what percentage of "boys" - so it is 50% that the first boy will be color blind. Basically it's very similar to 81.

#115: This one is actually kind of controversial, so I don't know. But I do remember that my bio professor taught us that ADH acts on collecting ducts only. Also my bio book says that it only acts on the collecting duct. Orgoman says that ADH acts on distal tubule and collecting duct. Aldosterone acts on distal tubules.

#132: In the solutions he says that the cephalopods are, like mollusks, have closed circulatory system. However, Molluscks have an open circulatory system. In fact, cephalopods are the only exception to that (i.e. the only molluscs with a closed circulatory system.

O chem Destroyer
#71: he has butanol undergoing elimination to produce 1-butene. In fact, 2-butene would be produced.

How long did you study for the DAT?
Where did you go to school?
You have a good chance of being accepted but most if not all of your interviews will be post-dec 1st.
good luck

u are an easy in for ur state school. with those stats ur state would snatch u up before the out of state schools. unless...u slept with the daughter of the dean at ur state school.

Sir.... You obviously had an older edition in which corrections were made. All problems were researched from books such as Leninger, VOET, Campbell, and Stryer. Several of your statements are false. The Orgo question #71 was fixed eons ago. So before you start slamming the work, know your facts.

Dr Jim Romano NYU

is this the REAL dr.romano on here? wow thats friggin awesome!!! i love the book by the way, totally worth it.. i am an unofficial spokeswoman for it here.. it also helps for the canadian DAT.. you should totally come up with a book for that...exclude the organic chem and QR and add a PAT section for us.. we would like it here!!!!!

Just wondering....say you had those DAT scores and are applying around now...but have a pretty low GPA, like barely 3.0 -- could you maybe still be considered for this cycle? :o

Sir.... You obviously had an older edition in which corrections were made. All problems were researched from books such as Leninger, VOET, Campbell, and Stryer. Several of your statements are false. The Orgo question #71 was fixed eons ago. So before you start slamming the work, know your facts.

Dr Jim Romano NYU

I'm confused here...Bio #6 says that phosphorylase catalyzes the hydrolytic cleavage of a phosphate ester bond. Is this correct or incorrect? I purchased the destroyer in August 07.

Thanks

wow it21 nice scores, i am doing kaplan sat math book right now, 2007-2008 ed, its too difficult, bunch of functions questions, domain and range, precalc stuff, and almost no word problems at all, most of them you can't do without a calculator, how similar was your QR to the tests in that kaplan sat book?
congrats

Man those scores are amazing! I'm glad I'll have all of my interviews set up before they see your amazing scores and reconsider my application!

Sir.... You obviously had an older edition in which corrections were made. All problems were researched from books such as Leninger, VOET, Campbell, and Stryer. Several of your statements are false. The Orgo question #71 was fixed eons ago. So before you start slamming the work, know your facts.

Dr Jim Romano NYU

Dear Dr. Romano,

Quite frankly I am shocked at the responses I am getting from you. First of all, please understand that no matter how much you wanted me to say that this product is a must have, I am not going to. Because I am being honest. I never bashed Destroyer, all I said that it was overated and bio had mistakes. Bashing destroyer would be saying "Destroyer sucks, don't get it". I think destroyer is a DECENT (not awesome) book, and if you want to get some more practice, then by all means get it. I will admit, as I have previously, that the organic chem section was good. In fact it was great, I liked the road maps. However, I personally think that Kaplan does just a good of a job for organic chem. But the bio is overrated AND has mistakes. I did get my facts straight - I looked into several sources (I own Leningher and Campbell as well).

I don't know what's more pathetic, the fact that you bash me for my constructive criticism, or is the the fact that you, a doctor and a teacher, would be sitting on SDN and reading every single post :laugh: Really, don't you have other things to do?

I am a human being and make mistakes and when my students point them out, I kindly thank them. You mister, on the other hand, are so full of yourself. If I were in your shoes, I would have said, "Thank you for bringing up those suspisions, but the newer version of the destroyer has been corrected."

By the way, I bought the version in June 2007. I guess that 4 months=eons. Hmm. I better go get my facts straight before I continue to comment.

God bless you man.

Man those scores are amazing! I'm glad I'll have all of my interviews set up before they see your amazing scores and reconsider my application!

Thanks. I appreciate it. I hope you get in :)

wow it21 nice scores, i am doing kaplan sat math book right now, 2007-2008 ed, its too difficult, bunch of functions questions, domain and range, precalc stuff, and almost no word problems at all, most of them you can't do without a calculator, how similar was your QR to the tests in that kaplan sat book?
congrats

I never really counted my scores. I just went through the questions and read the answers afterwards. I used it for learning not as a diagnostic.

But make sure you get fast on calculations. I mean, be able to multiply lightning fast, have your algebra down, and know your probability. On the test, skip long word problems (mark them and make a guess, just in case you run out of time).

I'm confused here...Bio #6 says that phosphorylase catalyzes the hydrolytic cleavage of a phosphate ester bond. Is this correct or incorrect? I purchased the destroyer in August 07.

Thanks

Hey buddy,

It is NOT phosphorylase but phosphatase. Look it up in a biochem book or go to wikipedia.

Good luck!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphatase

Just wondering....say you had those DAT scores and are applying around now...but have a pretty low GPA, like barely 3.0 -- could you maybe still be considered for this cycle? :o


I think so. But then again, I am not sure. I wish I could give you a better answer.

Take care

I also used Destroyer for my sciences and I got a 26 in bio 23 orgo, I didn't find any mistakes. It actually was a very helpful source of studying. Good Luck to all of u

Hey buddy,

It is NOT phosphorylase but phosphatase. Look it up in a biochem book or go to wikipedia.

Good luck!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphatase

Thanks for the correction and the link!

Amazing scores by the way. You might want to consider publishing a review book, call it "DAT Destroyed." Again congrats!

I've noticed that a lot of people mention the "road maps" for O Chem in Destroyer... what are they?

Very useful material to study. they are located in the solutions of the orgo section. I also believe that DR. Romano added couple of new roads maps. You really have to know these Road maps, at least that what helped me to get the score I got. Good Luck!!!

Very useful material to study. they are located in the solutions of the orgo section. I also believe that DR. Romano added couple of new roads maps. You really have to know these Road maps, at least that what helped me to get the score I got. Good Luck!!!

Hmmm. When were the new Roadmaps added? I have the July version.

e-mail Dr. Romano and him or nance will let u know the exact answer.

Thanks for the correction and the link!

Amazing scores by the way. You might want to consider publishing a review book, call it "DAT Destroyed." Again congrats!

Haha. lol. Thanks man.


Sorry for the late reply, I've been out the entire weekend, making up for the few months of having little social life. :D

Sir.... You obviously had an older edition in which corrections were made. All problems were researched from books such as Leninger, VOET, Campbell, and Stryer. Several of your statements are false. The Orgo question #71 was fixed eons ago. So before you start slamming the work, know your facts.

Dr Jim Romano NYU

Sounds like the OP was citing errors within the text, meaning he READ FROM your book. In fact, you, yourself, referred to where "corrections were made." Doesn't seem like an issue of facts, because it seems like he got the facts correct. Seems more like you're getting defensive about the allegations and making contradictory remarks in the process.

Sir.... You obviously had an older edition in which corrections were made. All problems were researched from books such as Leninger, VOET, Campbell, and Stryer. Several of your statements are false. The Orgo question #71 was fixed eons ago. So before you start slamming the work, know your facts.

Dr Jim Romano NYU


**** you scammer.

Sounds like the OP was citing errors within the text, meaning he READ FROM your book. In fact, you, yourself, referred to where "corrections were made." Doesn't seem like an issue of facts, because it seems like he got the facts correct. Seems more like you're getting defensive about the allegations and making contradictory remarks in the process.

Precisely.

IT21, don't worry about Orgoman...he can be rather rude when he gets defensive about his product which I personally feel is over-priced, over-worded, and over-advertised by his secret online police. All you have to do is now is wait for their comments to come pouring in...

Kaplan is 100X better than Destroyer. With the exception of the classroom courses...which are worthless.