Does anyone know the difference between Case Western/University Hospitals and Case Western/Metrohealth hospitals? Are they on par with each other or are they like Johns Hopkins and Johns Hopkins Bayview (not to take anything away from any program). Thanks

An email from a friend, when I asked him the same question:

"For internal, from my limited knowledge, I think that metrohealth and Case UH rank above Cleveland Clinic. I am not talking about dpeartment strength, but training strength. I know for fact that metro deals with majority of free, low socioeconomic cases, and they see a lot of cool/crazy stuff out there. UH and Cleveland Clinic are rivals to the death - both in good areas. Clinic sees limited number of lower socioeconomic patients, but highly regarded for red carpet internal med. UH might have a stronger training, but I am not 100% sure."

JHU ranks much higher than either of these programs. Not sure about bayview.

"For internal, from my limited knowledge, I think that metrohealth and Case UH rank above Cleveland Clinic. I am not talking about dpeartment strength, but training strength. I know for fact that metro deals with majority of free, low socioeconomic cases, and they see a lot of cool/crazy stuff out there. UH and Cleveland Clinic are rivals to the death - both in good areas. Clinic sees limited number of lower socioeconomic patients, but highly regarded for red carpet internal med. UH might have a stronger training, but I am not 100% sure."


That's about as cliche an assessment there is. Cleveland Clinic aside, UH is the more academic program, Metro is the public hospital with wacky pathology. Although the training may be excellent, you will have a hard time matching into a competitive (ie, any GI or cards) fellowship from Metrohealth. You will have a less hard time matching if you go to UH or Clinic.

Cleveland as a city has an undeservedly poor reputation. It's great if you have a family as it has beautiful suburbs (not the city itself), cheap housing, good highways, nice accessible parks, lots of shopping options, and a decent amount of dining options as well. Winter is long and cold (and gray) there, so be forewarned!

from interviewing at both last year, i really wound't consider bayview a separate hospital than hopkins hospital. the faculty go back and forth and at bayview you'll see signs saying "we're #1" as far as the number one hospital in the US. There are two separate medicine residencies between the two hospitals, but outside of that all the other residencies (surgery, em, ob, etc..) go between the two hospitals and are all of the same hopkins program. that goes for fellows as well.

i would consider bayview an extension of hopkins hospital that lives in the shadow of it. the program isn't as competitive to get into as hopkins, but they do get great fellowships.