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guttata
12-16-2003, 01:27 PM
Hey, it might be useful if we shared our perspectives on different programs. Can anyone provide additional information on BPEI (specifically, benign vs malignant atmosphere - I don't mind working hard if the environment fosters learning), Portland (could not think of any negatives of the program besides ???weak retina exposure), Denver (a program on the move?), Florida, MUSC.
Thanks. I will be glad to contribute my thoughts as well.


Use the links below to read and provide comments about specific ophthalmology residency programs.

Table of Contents

Alabama
University of Alabama Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868026)

Arizona
University of Arizona (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868032)

Arkansas
University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868039)

California
California Pacific Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868042)
Loma Linda University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=470603)
Naval Medical Center (San Diego) Program (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868048)
Stanford University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868050)
UCLA Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868051)
University of California (Davis) Health System (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868058)
University of California (Irvine) (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869106#post5869106)
University of California (San Diego) (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868061)
University of California (San Francisco) (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868086)
University of Southern California/LAC+USC Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868092)

Colorado
University of Colorado (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868097)

Connecticut
Yale-New Haven Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868109#post5868109)

District of Columbia
George Washington University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868128#post5868128)
Georgetown University Hospital/Washington Hospital Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868135#post5868135)
Howard University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868142#post5868142)
National Capital Consortium (Walter Reed) (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868151#post5868151)

Florida
Jackson Memorial Hospital/Jackson Health System (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868156#post5868156) (Bascom Palmer)
University of Florida (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868159#post5868159)
University of South Florida (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868177#post5868177)

Georgia
Emory University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868190#post5868190)
Medical College of Georgia (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868193#post5868193)

Illinois
Cook County Hospital (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868195#post5868195)
Loyola University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868199#post5868199)
McGaw Medical Center of Northwestern University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868206#post5868206)
Rush University Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868209#post5868209)
University of Chicago (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868213#post5868213)
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868220#post5868220)

Indiana
Indiana University School of Medicine (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868232#post5868232)

Iowa
University of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868236#post5868236)

Kansas
University of Kansas Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868307#post5868307)

Kentucky
University of Kentucky College of Medicine (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868310#post5868310)
University of Louisville (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868316#post5868316)

Louisiana
Louisiana State University (Shreveport) (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868321#post5868321)
Louisiana State University/Alton Ochsner Medical Foundation (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868326#post5868326)
Tulane University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868328#post5868328)

Maryland
Johns Hopkins University/Sinai Hospital of Baltimore (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868342#post5868342)
Maryland General Hospital (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868343#post5868343)
Sinai Hospital of Baltimore (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868348#post5868348)
University of Maryland (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868353#post5868353)

Massachusetts
Boston University Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868356#post5868356)
Massachusetts Eye and Ear Infirmary (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868362#post5868362)
Tufts-New England Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868367#post5868367)

Michigan
Henry Ford Hospital (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868371#post5868371)
University of Michigan (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868379#post5868379)
Wayne State University/Detroit Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868384#post5868384)
William Beaumont Hospital (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868387#post5868387)

Minnesota
Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education (Rochester) (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868392#post5868392)
University of Minnesota (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868395#post5868395)

Mississippi
University of Mississippi Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868396#post5868396)

Missouri
St Louis University School of Medicine (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868399#post5868399)
University of Missouri at Kansas City (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868405#post5868405)
University of Missouri-Columbia (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868407#post5868407)
Washington University/B-JH/SLCH Consortium (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868414#post5868414)

Nebraska
University of Nebraska Medical Center College of Medicine (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868419#post5868419)

New Jersey
UMDNJ-New Jersey Medical School (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868422#post5868422)

New York
Albany Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868426#post5868426)
Albert Einstein College of Medicine (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868435#post5868435)
Bronx-Lebanon Hospital Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868443#post5868443)
Mount Sinai School of Medicine (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868445#post5868445)
Nassau University Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868447#post5868447)
New York Eye and Ear Infirmary (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868450#post5868450)
New York Medical College (Brooklyn-Queens) (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868451#post5868451)
New York Medical College at St Vincent's Hospital and Medical Center of New York (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868455#post5868455)
New York Medical College at Westchester (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868458#post5868458)
New York Presbyterian Hospital (Columbia Campus) (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868460#post5868460)
New York Presbyterian Hospital (Cornell Campus) (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868988#post5868988)
New York University School of Medicine (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868991#post5868991)
NSLIJHS Program (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868997#post5868997)
St Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869006#post5869006)
SUNY at Stony Brook (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869009#post5869009)
SUNY Health Science Center at Brooklyn (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869027#post5869027)
SUNY Upstate Medical University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869029#post5869029)
University at Buffalo (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869017#post5869017)
University of Rochester (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869020#post5869020)

North Carolina
Duke University Hospital (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869039#post5869039)
University of North Carolina Hospitals (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869045#post5869045)
Wake Forest University School of Medicine (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869046#post5869046)

Ohio
Cleveland Clinic Foundation (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869050#post5869050)
Ohio State University Hospital (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869053#post5869053)
Summa Health System/NEOUCOM (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869056#post5869056)
University Hospital/University of Cincinnati College of Medicine (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869058#post5869058)
University Hospitals Case Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869060#post5869060)

Oklahoma
University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869064#post5869064)

Oregon
Oregon Health & Science University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869068#post5869068)

Pennsylvania
Drexel University College of Medicine/Hahnemann University Hospital (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869072#post5869072)
Geisinger Health System (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869074#post5869074)
Penn State University/Milton S Hershey Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869079#post5869079)
Temple University Hospital (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869084#post5869084)
Thomas Jefferson University/Wills Eye Institute (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869087#post5869087)
University of Pennsylvania (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869090#post5869090)
University of Pittsburgh Medical Center Medical Education (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869094#post5869094)

Puerto Rico
University of Puerto Rico (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869100#post5869100)

Rhode Island
Brown University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869111#post5869111)

South Carolina
Medical University of South Carolina (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869114#post5869114)
Palmetto Health/University of South Carolina School of Medicine (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869117#post5869117)

Tennessee
University of Tennessee (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869119#post5869119)
Vanderbilt University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869124#post5869124)

Texas
Baylor College of Medicine (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869129#post5869129)
San Antonio Uniformed Services Health Education Consortium (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869133#post5869133)
Texas A&M College of Medicine-Scott and White (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869139#post5869139)
Texas Tech University (Lubbock) (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869144#post5869144)
University of Texas at Houston (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869151#post5869151)
University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869155#post5869155)
University of Texas Medical Branch Hospitals (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869160#post5869160)
University of Texas Southwestern Medical School (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869165#post5869165)

Utah
University of Utah (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869168#post5869168)

Virginia
Eastern Virginia Medical School (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869172#post5869172)
University of Virginia (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869173#post5869173)
Virginia Commonwealth University Health System (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869176#post5869176)

Washington
Madigan Army Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869180#post5869180)
University of Washington (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869183#post5869183)

West Virginia
West Virginia University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869191#post5869191)

Wisconsin
Medical College of Wisconsin Affiliated Hospitals (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869196#post5869196)
University of Wisconsin (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869204#post5869204)

SDN 2004 Match Stats:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=100344

SDN 2005 Match Stats:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=169692

SDN 2006 Match Stats:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=253556

SDN 2007 Match Stats:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=353655

SDN 2008 Match Stats:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=483563

BeefyRedEye
12-16-2003, 04:37 PM
I think this is a great idea - too bad i didnt visit any of those places mentioned

tenon
12-17-2003, 06:53 AM
I think this is a good idea. Denver- I'm still not sure what to think of it. The place is beautiful and it is on the way up (see other posts). I wasn't convinced that the residents were really happy there, though they didn't say anything bad about it. I guess they just weren't as positive as many I've talked with at other programs. I've heard a lot of mixed reviews from others on the program there. Right after my visit, I thought that it was a good program, now some time has passed and I'm not sure what to think. I would say that the quality they may have now is something new for them, which makes it a little more risky than a more established program. The question for me is whether I'm liking it more b/c I want to like a program in that location or it is a solid program.

ophtho1122
12-17-2003, 10:22 AM
What did you guys think about USF Tampa and UT Houston??

chef
12-17-2003, 12:54 PM
any comments on CA programs?

guttata
12-17-2003, 01:06 PM
From talking to attendings at my home program, it seems USF is still stigmatized from the chairman incident five years ago. I think most of the faculty from that era has returned. Phacos number is above average. I think retina and laser experience are strong there. Residents seemed happy - collegial atmosphere. Some negatives include very weak peds (onlt 5-10 cases/resident), no lasik certification (or plans in the near future - it's a gauge of a program's progression). My overall impression was that it would be a good program for you if you want to go into comprehensive ophtho.

mjl34
12-17-2003, 11:46 PM
Here's my take on some programs - fasten your seatbelts it's going to be a long ride.

Wisconsin - great location if you don't mind the cold; poor surgical volume (although very good in plastics) and little autonomy; 4 months in NM during 3rd year was probably the deal-breaker; overall - academic powerhouse, but weak clinically.

MCW - okay location, but still cold; fine surgical volume with lots of trauma, with average autonomy; residents seemed pretty happy; overall - good academic and clinical program

UTSW - good location, but now it's hot; great surgical volume (they say 130, but really 160-200+) lots of autonomy and you work hard; overall - good academic and very strong clinical program.

Baylor - basically the same location as Dallas, but more heat and more traffic; awesome surgical volume and lots of autonomy; great placement for comprehensive or fellowship; don't like the saturday lectures; overall - strong academically and a clinical powerhouse

MEEI - people are pretty polar when it comes to Boston - either you love it or you hate it; good surgical volume - despite the rumors (120 cataracts) with average autonomy; a great place for self-motivated, creative residents who can handle a few projects at once; overall - academic powerhouse with good clinical experience (and one of my personal favorites).

Denver - Denver is awesome, but the actual eye center is a bit out of the way; surgical volume is okay (~100 cataracts and rising) with good autonomy; with all the new, young faculty, it could be an awesome place to train, but the fellowship-bound may be taking a risk since everyone is so new; overall - not the brightest light in the harbor, but will provide a sound clinical experience - and you'll have a good time doing it too.

UC Davis - another great location (2 hrs to the mountains, the beach, tahoe, and SF); awesome surgical volume (~200 cataracts starting your first year) with good autonomy; you work your tail off first year(q3), but reap the benefits the next two years; strong faculty with big names; overall - bound to be a top-ten program in the next few years - a clinical and academic "pre-powerhouse"

Casey eye in Portland - awesome location; sweet surgical volume (150-200 cataracts) with great autonomy; call is light, people are happy, life is good, faculty are great; overall - another up-and-coming program with an ideal blend of lifestyle, clinical and academic training (and another personal favorite).

Wilmer - Baltimore didn't impress me, but it's cheap to live there; adequate surgical volume (resident dependent, but can get 150 cataracts if you want) and great autonomy (only true resident-run clinic I found); this program is known as a factory for future department chairs and other leaders of the field; overall - you work hard, but if you're bound for fellowship/academics - it's hard to beat this program.

Iowa - Iowa city is small, but once you make the committment, I think you could have a good time (especially if you're married), plus it's cheap and they have great benefits ; surgical volume is great (140-170 cataracts) but less autonomy; great reputation for comprehensive or fellowship placement; lots of didactics (grand rounds M-F, saturday lectures, evening lectures too); overall - academic powerhouse and good clinical training.

Utah - great location; surgical volume is the best in the country with lots of autonomy; they just got approval for a third spot which makes it even better; you have to do your internship there where you do 4 months of ophtho (q3); you work hard all three years; they're building a new eye center in 2 yrs; another program that I think will be top-ten status within the next few years; overall - clinical powerhouse with growing academic status (and another personal favorite).

I'm sure others will disagree with me, but this is my opinion.

DOCTORSAIB
12-18-2003, 08:43 AM
Hey, did anyone interview at GW Ophtho? What did you think of the program? Attendings? Residents? Look forward to any replies!

BeefyRedEye
12-18-2003, 02:53 PM
I would also like to know people's detailed opinions on the california programs!

jackflash
12-20-2003, 02:30 AM
University of Illinois - From what I remember... rather poor surgical volume, facilities not what I expected, and the chairman did not even meet with us. Any other people have thoughts on this program?

guttata
12-20-2003, 09:17 PM
UCI - overshadowed by UCLA and USC, but has great surgical volume (200+ phacos). The VA clinics look huge. Residents seemed very happy there. The PD is great - by far, she was the nicest person I have met on the interview trail. The atmosphere was genuinely laid back (IMHO). However, we did not get a tour of the facilities (besides the slideshow) - why not?? My sense is that it is very competitive to match there. Overall - a strong program trying to break through the shadow of UCLA and USC.

Koji Kabuto
12-21-2003, 07:38 AM
Long time lurker, first time poster.

I was really surprised by how impressed I was with the Cleveland Clinic. I truly believe this is one of the best programs in the country. Yet, it is still a real sleeper. The residents were very happy with their training. They got excellent surgical numbers, excellent clinical teaching, and great fellowships. The faculty are great and growing and the facilities are unbelievable. It is a program on the rise and I feel will continue to rise.

Anyone else who visited the program, please give me your 2 cents. Am I missing something or was it really that good?

BeefyRedEye
12-21-2003, 08:24 AM
It was really that good. I cannot find anything wrong with the program except for the location. Cleveland, well, sucks. The faculty are very well known in the field and it will definatly be a top 5 academic powerhouse within the next 5 years. The facilities cannot be beat except for Jules Stein. They just recruited the chair at U Washington to be their cornea research guy. Watch out for this place........ if Cole Eye Institute was in say, San Francisco, it would undoubtedly be the most desired program in the country IMHO. Kinda like another Iowa

jackflash
12-21-2003, 12:40 PM
The only things that I did not like about the Cleveland Clinic were (1) Cleveland, (2) how all the interviewers talked about their residents going into academics (Dr. Lewis is a super intense guy about their residents being academic physicians), and (3) Cleveland again.

But it was definitely a great place to visit.

jackflash
12-21-2003, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by guttata
UCI - overshadowed by UCLA and USC, but has great surgical volume (200+ phacos). The VA clinics look huge. Residents seemed very happy there. The PD is great - by far, she was the nicest person I have met on the interview trail. The atmosphere was genuinely laid back (IMHO). However, we did not get a tour of the facilities (besides the slideshow) - why not?? My sense is that it is very competitive to match there. Overall - a strong program trying to break through the shadow of UCLA and USC.

Yeah, I'm very confused to as why they didn't tour us around any of the clinics. This makes me think that they are hiding something. But I agree that the residents seemed happy. However, on the other hand, I haven't been to many places where the residents seemed unhappy. Actually, it's funny talking to the residents... b/c it seems that everyone got their "first choice" at whatever institution they are at now.

BeefyRedEye
12-21-2003, 09:12 PM
Cleveland Clinic -

A very academic focused program - perhaps not the best choice if one were to want to do solely private practice in the future

Koji Kabuto
12-22-2003, 05:34 PM
When I was there, they mentioned that if was PREFERRED if their residents went into academics, but most previous residents went into private practice. As they mentioned, most highly academic programs would like their residents to go into academics, but it is unrealistic to expect everyone to go into it, since private practice jobs outnumber academic ones by a lot. I still think they prepare their residents well to go either route, which keeps more options open. I'm sure it wouldn't be too difficult to get a private practice job coming from their program. What do you guys think? Please, somebody give me a reality check!!

Andrew_Doan
12-22-2003, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by Koji Kabuto
I'm sure it wouldn't be too difficult to get a private practice job coming from their program. What do you guys think? Please, somebody give me a reality check!!

I've only heard awesome things about The Cleveland Clinic. One of the third year residents at Iowa matched there for Cornea.

Although the program may emphasize academic careers for their residents, with the surgical and clinical training you'll receive, you should be able to go either way. In my opinion, The Cleveland Clinic is an outstanding program with mucho financial funding.

jkin
12-23-2003, 09:05 AM
Any info on Wake Forest?

jonnyboy
12-23-2003, 11:52 AM
wake forest seemed like a solid clinical program. winstom-salem seemed to leave a bit to be desired, but hey, if you like tobacco (the city was built around the tobacco industry), it may be the place for you!

the residents seemed very happy and the attendings seemed really nice. one thing that kind of ticked me off is that they interview 60 people for the 2 (or is it 3?--it's all beginning to mesh together) slots.

jkin
12-23-2003, 11:59 AM
can you expand on what you didn't like about winston-salem?

Visionary
12-23-2003, 01:17 PM
I used to live in Winston-Salem. Great place for families, but not for single folks. Night life is lacking, to say the least. Of course, you're not too far of a drive from the mountains AND the beaches, making for good weekend excursions.

As far as Wake goes, I didn't interview there. One of my classmates did, and he said the residents admitted that they feel overworked. So, busy program. Clinical training appears solid, as you might expect from a busy program.

jonnyboy
12-24-2003, 10:33 AM
Visionary more or less summed it up. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are worse places than Winston-Salem. part of my problem is i'm coming from NYC so unfortunately, most smaller cities seem a little slow paced for me.

I didn't necessarily get the vibe that the residents are over-worked, but i guess it all depends on who you talk to.

psps
01-03-2004, 01:11 PM
jules stein or bascom palmer. i'm trying to decide which to rank first (not that i'll match at either). what do you guys think? what do you think the differences are, aside from location?

Andrew_Doan
01-03-2004, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by psps
jules stein or bascom palmer. i'm trying to decide which to rank first (not that i'll match at either). what do you guys think? what do you think the differences are, aside from location?

Both are amazing programs and all residents from these two programs are well trained. You cannot go wrong with either choice.

This said, the most important factor in residents' happiness is truly location. One should consider factors such as family, friends, and personal preference. Given that these programs are both equally strong, I suggest that you should consider whether you'll be happy in Miami or Los Angeles.

On the other hand, if your chances of matching at either program is slim, then I wouldn't spend too much time contemplating. :)

GeddyLee
01-05-2004, 11:06 AM
I'm having a heck of a time with my rank list. My top 4 include Alabama, UNC, UF, and UT-Memphis. Any thoughts on these programs?

Also, how should I weigh in my plans to do one of the competetive fellowships, like retina, in my rank list?

PPPD
01-05-2004, 07:12 PM
Here's my 2 cents for all it's worth:

UNC: Liked the campus, liked the facilities, every interviewer was nice and approachable, very low stress interviews, didn't even seem like there were 9 of them. Residents fairly approachable, 4 course lunch was definitely nice. However I have some reservations regarding the faculty that just left. 1 glaucoma specialist left, leaving the seniors somewhat scrambling for glaucoma cases. 1 retina person is leaving. Every interviewer mentioned this as a drawback to the program. Although they are actively searching to replace the outgoing faculty, it might take a while for the search to conclude & for the new faculty members to establish themselves & build a patient base . Also, the lack of a VA in close proximity is another drawback. They send their residents to a VA in Minnesota, but i was told that some of the residents weren't too crazy about this. They basically have to go there to get enough cases. Also there was some mumbling about the surgical case volume when I pressed one of the seniors. They seem to be a bit on the low side. Clinic volume is not a problem though.

UF: Didn't interview there but a couple of my friends did & loved it there.

Memphis: Also didn't interview there but have only heard positive things.

Alabama: Don't know anything about the program.

Mustafa
11-09-2006, 04:08 PM
It's a few years old, but wondering if we could resurrect this thread with updated information and impressions for this season

WhiteDots
11-09-2006, 04:20 PM
Here's my take on some programs - fasten your seatbelts it's going to be a long ride.

Baylor - basically the same location as Dallas, but more heat and more traffic; awesome surgical volume and lots of autonomy; great placement for comprehensive or fellowship; don't like the saturday lectures; overall - strong academically and a clinical powerhouse

I'm sure others will disagree with me, but this is my opinion.

Baylor is a great program. Residents get interviewed at top programs for fellowship and have matched well in the past. Definitely a work hard play hard atmosphere. Faculty really value resident education. Saturday lectures have been done away with and moved to Friday. High clinical volume. Cornea and pediatrics powerhouse.

WhiteDots
11-09-2006, 04:22 PM
jules stein or bascom palmer. i'm trying to decide which to rank first (not that i'll match at either). what do you guys think? what do you think the differences are, aside from location?


BP definitely over Jules Stein. Both have a work hard mentality and have great volume. Both are great programs. Downside ofJules Stein-- lots of driving all over to hospital locations, and then having to return in the evening for lectures in crazy LA traffic.

Sams
11-09-2006, 11:08 PM
i've noticed that this older thread has a lot of positive feedback on Cleveland clinic where some of the newer posts comment on how it's a malignant program... is this a change of attitude in recent years?

azzarah
11-10-2006, 11:22 AM
i've noticed that this older thread has a lot of positive feedback on Cleveland clinic where some of the newer posts comment on how it's a malignant program... is this a change of attitude in recent years?

YEah, what's up with that! I was about to drop my CC interview until I saw this tread!

fatman41
11-10-2006, 11:48 AM
I heard Iowa has Saturday lectures 8-9mos each year. Does anyone else know of programs with Saturday lecture/clinical duties?

Donkeyman
11-10-2006, 12:08 PM
Is anyone familar with the Midwest programs, such as UMKC, Kansas, Mizzou, Nebraska. I would like to stay near home in the Midwest but haven't received an invite to Iowa or Minnesota schools. I've read about UMKC and Nebraska on Scutwork, but have not heard anything about these programs on SDN. Anyone have an idea about call schedules, surgery/clinic exposure and just the general atmosphere. Thanks!

Haptic
11-10-2006, 12:38 PM
I'm really excited about seeing Cole after everything I've read. The only thing that worried me for those of us not a top 10 schools is that all of their residents are from them if you look at their website. Otherwise, if you search their program on SDN everyone has super positive things to say about it. Azzarah, I wouldn't drop it if I were you.

I was also really excited to see Oregon, another sleeper program.....until my fiancee was rejected:thumbdown :thumbdown

Anyone have comments about Scheie or WashU?

rubensan
11-10-2006, 12:41 PM
both scheie and washU are excellent programs.

I'm really excited about seeing Cole after everything I've read. The only thing that worried me for those of us not a top 10 schools is that all of their residents are from them if you look at their website. Otherwise, if you search their program on SDN everyone has super positive things to say about it. Azzarah, I wouldn't drop it if I were you.

I was also really excited to see Oregon, another sleeper program.....until my fiancee was rejected:thumbdown :thumbdown

Anyone have comments about Scheie or WashU?

eyefly
11-10-2006, 01:42 PM
this is a useful thread. i wish it was started sooner.
can anyone comment on the two Kansas programs, Missouri Columbia, and U South Carolina.

thanks

fatman41
11-10-2006, 01:57 PM
Mizzou is the best of the Kansas schools, UMKC, and nebraska. They have good surgical volume, dedicated attendings and pleasant office staff. There is only one cornea fellow, so you get plenty of experience in retina, peds and plastics. Columbia is a classic college town, similar to Iowa City, but you're only 1.5 hrs from KC and STL if you want the big city experience.

Donkeyman
11-10-2006, 02:13 PM
this is a useful thread. i wish it was started sooner.
can anyone comment on the two Kansas programs, Missouri Columbia, and U South Carolina.

thanks

Thanks fatman, I too have heard many good things about Mizzou. Plus Columbia is a fun town (and affordable). I haven't heard too many good comments about UMKC...I heard the PD is kinda full of himself. Haven't heard anything about Kansas. I think there is a big discussion on USC in a post about programs that suck...look there.

Does anyone have any information about Nebraska. There is a great review on scutwork, but I also saw it listed under programs that suck. I also know they only take 2 residents a year which I feel might lead to being very busy. Any comments from residents at smaller programs? I don't mind the extra work if it is educational, but I feel there might be more benefits to having a few extra residents around...

eyefly
11-10-2006, 02:22 PM
I read the earlier posts about U South Carolina....which was vigorously defended by its alum. Just wondering if that still held true. Are there any current residents that want to comment?

speyeder
11-10-2006, 02:36 PM
I heard Iowa has Saturday lectures 8-9mos each year. Does anyone else know of programs with Saturday lecture/clinical duties?

NYEEI has Saturday clinics. Not sure about Saturday lectures though.

indytx
11-10-2006, 02:40 PM
NYEEI has Saturday clinics. Not sure about Saturday lectures though.

:wow: :barf: :eek:

kulkarka
11-10-2006, 02:48 PM
I heard Iowa has Saturday lectures 8-9mos each year. Does anyone else know of programs with Saturday lecture/clinical duties?


Univ. of Illinois-Chicago has saturday lectures, although they said this may change in the future.


By the way, this is an outstanding thread! I wish I knew about it before...

kulkarka
11-10-2006, 02:52 PM
Wisconsin - great location if you don't mind the cold; poor surgical volume (although very good in plastics) and little autonomy; 4 months in NM during 3rd year was probably the deal-breaker; overall - academic powerhouse, but weak clinically.

This may have been true in the past, but I don't believe this is the case anymore. Yes, it's still cold there, but Wisconsin is now probably in the top 1 or 2 in the country for oculoplastics. They've done away with the 4 months in NM. And it seems like they have enough autonomy, b/c the residents that graduate from there are prepared for private practice or any fellowship. This is probably a top 15 program.

Mustafa
11-10-2006, 03:03 PM
For NIH funding, it has been in the top 3 for years maybe even a decade. In the ophthalmology times rankings in years past (2002 or so?) it was ranked as high as #4 overall. It seems like the probationary accreditation really dropped it down on the ranking surveys. I have one of the last dates for the interview, and I'm excited to visit! Has anyone heard updated info on their accreditation?

btw is there a 2006 Ophthalmology times ranking out yet?

Haptic
11-10-2006, 03:35 PM
I called today

they said 1)site visit was good 2)acgme meeting in december 3)notification in january...with our luck on jan 20

i'll probably see you there then if your there late

Eyeluvu
11-11-2006, 01:45 AM
I'm really excited about seeing Cole after everything I've read. The only thing that worried me for those of us not a top 10 schools is that all of their residents are from them if you look at their website. Otherwise, if you search their program on SDN everyone has super positive things to say about it. Azzarah, I wouldn't drop it if I were you.


I'm not sure where the Cleveland Clinic bashing came from. All I can say is that I have friends who were residents there and they were very happy about the program. They felt they were very well trained and had great options (fellowship or jobs) after residency. Take a look at the website and look up the recent alumni:
http://www.clevelandclinic.org/eye/physician_info/alumni.asp

Not too shabby if you ask me.

Haptic
11-11-2006, 07:55 AM
wow you were right! those were pretty ridiculous fellowships...looks like a good place to go for oculoplastics or retina...can't wait to see it soon!

GuP
11-11-2006, 10:25 AM
can anyone comment on mount sinai in NY?

scubasea
11-11-2006, 11:35 AM
Great thread! Props to all who have contributed.

Any ideas on Kresge/Wayne state?

I'll be contributing on a few programs in the very near future... (promise)

Vballguy
11-11-2006, 05:46 PM
Any thoughts on UC Irvine vs. UC San Diego? both take 3 spots...
Any difference in ability to get fellowships from either place? Reputation?
I'm specifically interested in preparation for academic career.

xaelia
11-11-2006, 08:47 PM
As a little bit of an aside, the programs that have been ranked in the top ten for the strength of their residency programs in OT for the last five years(if you want to call it a "top 16" of sorts)(in order approximate order of cumulative rank):
BPEI, Wilmer, Iowa, Wills, JSEI, Doheny, UCSF, Duke, Emory, UPenn, Michigan, Casey, Baylor, NYEEI, MEEI, Utah

WhiteDots
11-11-2006, 09:48 PM
One strong thing to consider is the OT list is based on rankings surveyed for the department. It does not necessarily correlate to quality of residency training. While many of the programs listed are high quality programs, it doesn't take into account happiness of a resident, faculty emphasis on teaching, clinical range and volume, etc. etc. Some programs have incredible clinical focus, others have incredible research focus. Depending on what you're interested, certain programs offer better clinical training while others offer better research training. So, in addition to just what's listed on OT, it's important to ask residents and PDs who they think are the best residency training because residents and PDs often will have a different order of the same programs than what's listed in OT.

grndskeprwillie
11-12-2006, 11:55 AM
As a little bit of an aside, the programs that have been ranked in the top ten for the strength of their residency programs in OT for the last five years(if you want to call it a "top 16" of sorts)(in order approximate order of cumulative rank):
BPEI, Wilmer, Iowa, Wills, JSEI, Doheny, UCSF, Duke, Emory, UPenn, Michigan, Casey, Baylor, NYEEI, MEEI, Utah

I think you missed Wash U., which I would put around Duke and ahead of Emory.

xaelia
11-13-2006, 06:11 AM
There are good programs not on this list; WUStL's ophthalmology resident education program hasn't been ranked in the top 10 in the last five years in OT.

myeye
11-13-2006, 10:07 AM
Is anyone familar with the Midwest programs, such as UMKC, Kansas, Mizzou, Nebraska. I would like to stay near home in the Midwest but haven't received an invite to Iowa or Minnesota schools. I've read about UMKC and Nebraska on Scutwork, but have not heard anything about these programs on SDN. Anyone have an idea about call schedules, surgery/clinic exposure and just the general atmosphere. Thanks!

I've seen a few people wondering about UMKC and I thought I'd share my thoughts. While it's certainly not a big name, I think this is a very solid program. I don't see any major holes...I have not met any faculty that would be impossible to work with. Overall, there's a relatively laid-back atmosphere in my opinion. Call responsibilities are pretty light, q6. All specialties are covered. I think they have a strong lecture series/educational approach--lectures every morning. Good surgical volume (~90-125 cats). The chair has a rep for being intimidating, but he treated me well. The resident lanes are ancient but reasonably functional. Good balance of autonomy/supervision.

No reason to worry about ranking UMKC in my opinion.

Kansas, on the other hand...I would ask lots of questions if I were interviewing there...

FlyingDoc
11-13-2006, 08:19 PM
Any thoughts on UC Irvine vs. UC San Diego? both take 3 spots...
Any difference in ability to get fellowships from either place? Reputation?
I'm specifically interested in preparation for academic career.

Based on my experience interviewing 2 years ago, I would say that UCSD would better prepare you for an academic career, (though the environment there is definitely more "hard core" in terms of faculty-resident interaction)

However, you can go wrong with UCI if you are interested in academic glaucoma (given Dr. Baerveldt, of BGI fame, is a faculty member there)

xaelia
11-14-2006, 08:56 AM
Does anyone know anything about Pittsburgh? Our program director highly recommended it, but I definitely haven't seen any discussion of it....

Haptic
11-14-2006, 09:03 AM
Hey Xaelia,

I'll be going this weekend so I can give you an update about it afterwards although I guess you may be going down there too. There is a fellow I know who was there and he said he liked it a lot but that it was a busy program with intense call q6...up all nightish type of call. My PD also recommended it and that's why I'm going down to see it as well.

These programs where you're the only show in town I think are going to be at least good for clinical training.

xaelia
11-14-2006, 09:31 AM
Yep, going on Friday; was just looking for a preview.

4424
11-14-2006, 10:48 AM
does anyone know anything or can give me a heads up before going to oklahoma (mcgee's) interview?

btmz
11-14-2006, 01:20 PM
anyone have any info on university of arizona? I got an invite, but don't know anything about the program. any info would be great! thanks!

slim
11-14-2006, 03:16 PM
any opinions on Loma Linda CA, U South Florida, Tulane, Boston U?

plasticbuddy
11-16-2006, 12:56 PM
any opinions on Loma Linda CA, U South Florida, Tulane, Boston U?

more programs... any info appreciated!

columbia
cornell
ny eye & ear
boston university
u. virginia
st. lukes-roosevelt, ny
med col virginia
med col georgia
suny downstate
eastern virginia
tulane
nassau

eyedoc
11-21-2006, 03:21 PM
Hi everyone. I wanted to see what people heard/thought about Rush (Chicago) and Mayo. Thanks!

Haptic
11-21-2006, 07:07 PM
Very straight forward presentation by PD, which I appreciated.

+s=VAs, surgery, autonomy, Boston
-s=frustration of VA/poor pts (no english), old facilities (but adequate), Boston

residents seemed pretty happy, 2-3 faculty in each sub-specialty

program seemed to be static/mild declining...no good future plans for renovations/program improvements

seemed like a decent mid tier program

GoBlue02
11-21-2006, 09:25 PM
There are good programs not on this list; WUStL's ophthalmology resident education program hasn't been ranked in the top 10 in the last five years in OT.

Wash U had the nicest faculty and one of the best educational/clinical programs I found. Plus, ten weeks of protected research time and very well-connected faculty will definately lead to future success getting into the highly coveted fellowship positions (isn't that the whole point of this anyway). I would put them in the top 3-5 programs overall (and I have seen the "top 12")...OT rankings are highly overrated.

deuceswild
11-22-2006, 08:40 AM
Need to make decision on these programs because of interview date conflict. Anybody with any thoughts in comparing these programs?

WhiteDots
11-22-2006, 10:09 AM
Need to make decision on these programs because of interview date conflict. Anybody with any thoughts in comparing these programs?

UT Houston is a laid back program. Not known as one of the 'top' programs that people usually talk about but I think they have decent clinical training- and good surgical volume. They have a county hospital and private along with good amount of trauma because of a level 1 trauma facility. They recently have built a new clinic in a nice highrise which has great facilities which will start January 2007. The faculty are very laid back. It's a smaller faculty size but well trained- uveitis from wilmer. They are in the process of recruiting more faculty. Research is available and encouraged but many of the residents go there to be clinically trained to be a private doc. They have a large eye fund so they are financially well established. I think it's a great program if you want to be a practicing private ophthalmologist. Don't know much about Indiana so i can't compare the two. Hope this helps.

slim
11-22-2006, 11:14 AM
Rush is a small program with only 2 residents per class (better be sure you like your coresident and that they pull their weight). You are also required to do a grueling surgical transitional year at Rush if you match into the program. That said, the new facilities are beautiful and you get to spend all your time there (no VA/children's hospital to commute to).

goldeneye
11-23-2006, 08:33 AM
Does anybody know anything about this program?

idoc
11-24-2006, 08:28 PM
Which program are you interested in:
University of Kentucky -- Lexington, or University of Louisville -- Louisville?

goldeneye
11-25-2006, 06:26 PM
Louisville- it is going to cost me quite a bit to fly there and I know nothing about the program- any information is very appreciated!! :)

eyedoc
11-26-2006, 01:17 PM
I'm assuming I got this interview after somebody cancelled because their two dates are in one week and two weeks. Anyways, does anyone know anything about this program? Thanks!

4424
11-26-2006, 01:36 PM
i was under the impression that they only offered 2 dates this year but i could easily be mistaken. i also need info on GW

eyedoc
11-26-2006, 05:02 PM
I think those are the only dates for GW. I was just referring to the fact that I heard from them pretty late. :)

xaelia
11-27-2006, 08:59 AM
Pittsburgh was kind of a schizophrenic program to me; six residents a year, big program, but they really seemed overworked from a clinical perspective. Nice facilities like a huge, dedicated wet lab for practicing surgical experience, their Eye & Ear institute was recently remodelled, and Dr. Waxmane is very focused on resident education. Some parts of Pittsburgh are appealling, and some parts are less attractive. Sort of symbolized how I felt about the program as a whole. Overnight call in-house as a first year, and I guess you don't sleep much at all. Depends on how much you like sleep, I guess.

Utah has a fantastic new facility, impressive surgical numbers, happy residents, some great faculty, affordable, clean city - half an hour to some of the best skiing in the world, lots of new developments in the city related to the 2002 Olympics. The only drawback to the location is the high LDS population, which may or may not be a problem to you. Only three residents a year, so you take primary call for two years q6. Apparently a lot of nights, particularly in the winter, you get a full-night's sleep and don't have to come in. You do your internship in Utah's IM program with four months of VA clinic doing pre-op evaluations in the middle of it; the residents seemed to think it was an okay arrangement. No research time built-in to your schedule until PGY-4. If they had four residents a year, with primary call for only one year, and more independent time, it would be awesome - though lose some of their uniqueness with huge surgical numbers.

Xipper
11-27-2006, 09:11 AM
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xaelia
11-27-2006, 09:50 AM
~60% of Utah's population is LDS. This may or may not restrict or impact your social and living experience, depending on your own personal religious, political, and social views. All your other examples of concentrated homogenous populations may be assessed in a similar fashion.

I suppose I editorialized a little too much by calling it a "drawback," but it is to me. Others are welcome to disagree. We are all beautiful and unique flowers.

Wolverine98
11-27-2006, 06:35 PM
~60% of Utah's population is LDS. This may or may not restrict or impact your social and living experience, depending on your own personal religious, political, and social views. All your other examples of concentrated homogenous populations may be assessed in a similar fashion.

I suppose I editorialized a little too much by calling it a "drawback," but it is to me. Others are welcome to disagree. We are all beautiful and unique flowers.

Salt Lake itself is more 50-50.
I grew up in Salt Lake, and both of my parents live there (one of them is on faculty at the Moran Center); so I'm relatively comfortable answering questions people have about that here or by PM.

Wolverine98
11-27-2006, 06:36 PM
If they had four residents a year, with primary call for only one year, and more independent time, it would be awesome - though lose some of their uniqueness with huge surgical numbers.

It was about a 10 year fight for them to get up to three (just happened a couple of years ago). I wouldn't expect them to go up to 4 anytime soon.

Dave

Wolverine98
11-27-2006, 06:46 PM
Why would a "large LDS population" be a drawback? Would I say west LA's large Jewish population is a drawback, San Francisco's large homosexual population is a draw back, or anyother areas large African Amercian/Asian/or Hispanic population is a drawback? Come on...

If any of those things are a drawback for you, then yes. While you're in residency to train primarily, that doesn't mean you have to be miserable in the place you live. If you're the kind of person who likes to go out to the bar or club on the weekend when you're not on call, Salt Lake will be a tougher place to live for you.

That aside, there is some legitimacy to the concern concern from a training perspective also, since the population is also predominantly white.

Let's say you want to go into glaucoma. You get great surgical experience, and you see a ton (and I mean A TON) of PXF. The downside is you see a very small fraction of african-americans, especially when compared to inner-city populations. Each set of patients will present their own set of challenges, and you want to learn to deal with as many of them as possible. It wouldn't be a deciding factor for me (and it wasn't when I was applying), but that doesn't mean it's something you shouldn't keep in mind.

azzarah
12-02-2006, 06:06 PM
We are all beautiful and unique flowers.

:laugh: No kidding

azzarah
12-02-2006, 06:08 PM
Why would a "large LDS population" be a drawback? Would I say west LA's large Jewish population is a drawback, San Francisco's large homosexual population is a draw back, or anyother areas large African Amercian/Asian/or Hispanic population is a drawback? Come on...

Dude, you're totally over-reacting! Take a deep breath and chill out! :D

DOapplicant
12-03-2006, 09:34 PM
does anyone know when this program is inteviewing?

xaelia
12-07-2006, 10:48 AM
wtf is up with this "inside scoop" from JSEI? It's nauseatingly pretentious.

"Be Proud - You are one of the Elite
You’re interviewing at one of the top residency programs in ophthalmology. And I’m sure you have other interviews at other top programs....Therefore, you must be in the top 5% of applicants already. You are one of the elite applicants."

Strengths:
"4. JSEI is financially strong. Look at these marble buildings!"

Weaknesses:
"6. If you’re lazy and not a team player, then you will not like it here."

Etc.

Feels like cognitive dissonance or most excellent Kool-Aid. What sort of impression are they trying to make on us, exactly?

Xibalba
12-07-2006, 01:39 PM
doheny....

Positives: beautiful location, great autonomy at LA county 1 and 3rd years. Good volume (~125-50 phacos). Big name faculty (esp retina), residents seem to get great fellowships. I think you will be well trained and extremely efficient as a graduate from there. The Chair seems to be very supportive, approachable, and down to earth.

Negatives: the 1st, 3rd years are worked to the bone at County. Many looked dog-tired. Not in of itself, bad, but there is very little ancillary support (techs) at County, and I'm not sure how much you are taught by the bigwig Doheny faculty except for the second year. At county, it looks like you have huge volume immediately, like the first month of 1st year, and there is not that much teaching. Guidance is available from seniors , but they are also busy as 3rd years. I think the County attendings are volunteers.

Misc: one odd thing seems to be the Assistant Chief of Service position. Usually a 1-2 yr position at most progs, but the current ACS has been there for 5 years, and looks to be there indefinitely. If one has questions, you ask your senior, if not ask ACS, if not then an attending. The ACS is mostly at County (2/3 of your time as a resident) has a big role in resident teaching. However the relationship of the ACS with some of the residents seems uneasy. Since you're spending most of your time at County, I think it is key to be ok with working independently (know how do to a through exam) immediately when you start, be able to deal with county staff and mentality, and to get along well with the ACS.

In general, I always wonder what a good balance is on: great autonomy but little supervision (county, va, etc) vs. less autonomy but good teaching (univ hospital etc.)

GuP
12-17-2006, 07:18 PM
Come on guys! Share how ya feel about programs!!

GAA
12-20-2006, 01:32 PM
I liked my interview at UPMC. I think they have great clinical tranining. Does anybody know if the get good fellowships?.
Thanks

WhiteDots
12-20-2006, 02:19 PM
I know alot of people here have quoted the OT and US News.
It's interesting though, after interviewing, how the best clinical residency training doesn't necessarily correlate with those rankings. I was curious of anyone else felt the same.

My top clinical residency programs I thought were: [and I have a personal bias towards more autonomous programs where you get high volumes and have patient diversity] BP, Wills, Baylor Houston, Doheny, Jules Stein, Emory

There are alot of other great programs that I didn't list or didn't interview at so I can't speak of, but this was my personal opinion/feeling. Anyone else felt the same?

deuceswild
12-20-2006, 03:41 PM
I had a similar impression on the interview trail. I felt UCSD, Oregon, UC Davis, Michigan were great programs not highly ranked by OT.

deuceswild
12-20-2006, 03:48 PM
Anybody have any comments on Wills in terms of how the program will be affected in the coming years with the recent purchase of the program by Thomas Jefferson University and the inevitable stepping down/retirement of the longtime chairman (he told me this during my interview)? I asked about these on interview day but residents seemed to know little about it or dodged the question altogether. Wills is a great program but interested to see how these changes will affect the program

xaelia
12-21-2006, 11:32 AM
I felt UCSD, Oregon, UC Davis, Michigan were great programs not highly ranked by OT.
I have never heard anyone across the country say a single negative thing about Casey; I don't think its name recognition projects as much outside the west coast as UCLA, USC or UCSF, but I wouldn't expect any fellowship doors to be closed to you from that program. They also rank in the top 10 for NEI funding.

Michigan is already well-recognized in national surveys.

UC Davis has excellent training as well, but probably not in the same sentence as the aforementioned west-coast programs.

For quality of life and great training during residency, I think Casey, UCSF, Michigan, and UC Davis are well-balanced and hard-to-beat. Plenty of pathology, surgical volume, and opportunities to practice with some autonomy without suffering unduly.

4424
12-21-2006, 12:53 PM
i thought mcgee eye in oklahoma was another amazing clinical program with less recognition and really happy residents.

xaelia
12-22-2006, 10:03 AM
Anyone have any unique insights comparing UCLA, Michigan, and UPenn? I have an idea how I'm going to rank them, but if someone feels moved to comment on some aspect of those programs I might have overlooked on my interview day, I'd be happy to hear it.

WhiteDots
12-22-2006, 09:17 PM
Anyone have any unique insights comparing UCLA, Michigan, and UPenn? I have an idea how I'm going to rank them, but if someone feels moved to comment on some aspect of those programs I might have overlooked on my interview day, I'd be happy to hear it.

All great programs. Personally, I would definitely put UCLA and Michigan above UPenn. I think UCLA and Michigan both have much higher clinical volumes than UPenn and during residency, it's a time to get a very strong clinical training. Research will come later on in academics or fellowship-- and Scheie is awesome for research, but I just didn't get the impression that they were quite as strong clinically. As to how to rank UCLA vs. Michigan, that's up to geographical preference and style of learning and happiness of residents- so a tougher more personal decision will determine which one you rank higher out of those 2.

topframes
12-23-2006, 08:03 AM
Can anyone please rank these programs-
Nassau, mississippi, UKMC(Kansas city), Galveston, Uni of cincinatti, tulane
Thanks

Butters415
12-25-2006, 11:09 AM
Can anyone please rank these programs-
Nassau, mississippi, UKMC(Kansas city), Galveston, Uni of cincinatti, tulane
Thanks


When I was applying last year, I got an e-mail from Galveston saying they were on probation. I forgot why. You might want to look into that. Sometimes programs are on probation for innocuous reasons, but sometimes it's a red flag.

eyegirl11
12-25-2006, 11:32 PM
Any opinions on Tufts? malignant program? I had mixed feelings when I interviewed there.

DiveMD
12-26-2006, 11:08 AM
Any input on U of FL, Gainesville?

EyeLiner
12-27-2006, 07:30 AM
Any info...

wxyz
12-29-2006, 02:44 PM
I heard the retina fellowship did not fill this year. Is this true? The place seems to have some issues.

smercury
12-29-2006, 10:01 PM
The retina fellowship is not listed as being unfilled on the SF Match site.

wxyz
12-30-2006, 04:18 AM
Well, I believe the source of this info was reliable. You may want to check with someone connected to the program. Please PM me or post it if this can be corroborated.

ophth_not_opth
12-30-2006, 09:48 PM
Jules Stein will have 2 first year retina fellows come July 2007. I know both of them quite well.

ophthoapplicant
10-05-2007, 10:07 PM
This thread is a tremendous resource. I'd hope that we can keep it updated, and add programs that we see on the trail/rotate with.

Cheers, and good luck.

Free Radicle
10-09-2007, 06:48 PM
Hey everybody - feeback on UF
Pros
1. most plastic procedures in the nation (so we are told, but I believe it)
-our VA rotation has a plastic procedure 4/5 days of the week and the first years are the ones who do them all, I have already done 20 blepheroplasties, 4-5 tarsal strips and 2-3 direct brows by myself
-we even have the occaisional Saturday plastics work shop to hone our skills with the ocuplastics faculty
2. VA rotation
-we get all of our cataracts from here, as a first year we get two ECCE c IOL
- as a second year 40-60 phacos
- as a third year between the two VA's anywhere between 150-200 additional phacos, by graduation 200-300 phacos as the primary surgeon and believe me they let you do the majority of the case. Even when in trouble, they teach you how to get out of it
- the first years do all the lasers, procedures etc
3. Lots of rupture globes
4. Plenty of pathology
5. Residents score tops in OKAPs
6. Urgent Care rotation - for the first years, we take all emergencies, walk ins etc and your are basically autonomous except in very difficult cases

Cons - source of big frustration for me personally
1. Large efflux of faculty, loss of neuro ophth, cornea, peds and glaucoma faculty in the past 2 years - so far only 2 replacements
2. New program director (actually a pro as well because so far she rocks)
3. Very poor exposure to orbital plastics or more advanced plastics procedures. A single plastics faculty, who is friends with the chairman who seems to be very protective of his "turf" and might be protesting the hire of a new faculty
4. Very poor back up - have felt stranded (a sentiment that all of the residents have expressed) on more than one occasion. When this concern was presented to senior faculty/chairman - residents did not fell that problem was delt with sufficiently. No faculty backup for inpatient consults (this might be a problem with all institutions as far as I know).

Bottom Line
- you graduate as a tremendous general ophthalmologist with surgical skill that rivals that of a private practice ophthalmologist who has been practicing for years
- poor back up/autonomy, frustrating in the beginning, but rewarding later


As far as the town goes, is on the small side, definitely a small town feel. Housing prices not any cheaper than a big city. But we are the Gators so that is a big plus.

Hope this helps everyone this year. I wish I had this kind of information when I was trying to match.

ophthoapplicant
10-30-2007, 03:31 PM
I have heard good things about the University of Minnesota's program- does anyone have any personal experience from there/something they've heard that they can share?

Mye Eye
10-30-2007, 03:36 PM
I spoke with Dr. Egbert of Stanford previously about U of Minn...he had nothing but the best things to say of his training there. Said the surgical numbers were incredible, he loved all the attendings, and the pathology he saw there certainly was surprisingly untouched anywhere else...

he tried to get me to apply there

all in all, rave reviews from him...and he did two fellowships (peds and oculoplastics) so obviously he was a competitive resident as a result of the program

I dont have any personal information to add, other than good word of mouth around my school about the place (a guy who matched at Emory from my school put U of Minnesota RIGHT BEHIND it (top 3 choice and he had like 15 interviews))

ophthoapplicant
10-30-2007, 03:48 PM
Sounds like a great place to train. Thanks Mye Eye!

sasel
10-30-2007, 04:15 PM
does anybody have good info on MCW or penn state? Thanks!

animeita
11-01-2007, 08:44 AM
Any thoughts on these two programs?

Thanks!

Jake the Snake
11-04-2007, 10:41 AM
I saw this on another thread. http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=410273

We should set up something like this for ophtho residencies. My guess is that an SDN administrator like Andrew Doan would need to get involved to set this up and make it a sticky. I would be more than happy to contribute what I have learned from the interview process.

What do you guys think? Lets do it!

nist7
11-08-2007, 11:53 PM
I saw this on another thread. http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=410273

We should set up something like this for ophtho residencies. My guess is that an SDN administrator like Andrew Doan would need to get involved to set this up and make it a sticky. I would be more than happy to contribute what I have learned from the interview process.

What do you guys think? Lets do it!

Now this is a great idea!

Jake the Snake
11-09-2007, 04:44 AM
Now this is a great idea!

I wish I knew how to set this up, but it looks like an SDN moderator may have done it. I'm not on the interview trail yet, so I coudn't contribute much anyway, but this type of format would be useful to ophthalmology applicants for years to come!

tapetum
11-10-2007, 06:43 PM
I tried posting this elsewhere, but no luck. thought i'd try this thread. can anyone tell me anything about davis, duke, and/or utah?? i need to cancel one, but i dont know enough about any of them to make a call. quality of program? reputation? happy residents? lifestyle, location, etc? pls share your thoughts. very much appreciated.

gtw
11-11-2007, 10:38 PM
Hi, great thread, thanks to everyone sharing their knowledge.

Does anyone have any input on the Univ of Mississippi Med Ctr in Jackson, MS? Including, but not limited to, surgical volume, patient population makeup, what call is like there, resident satisfaction, etc.

Thanks in advance!

GuP
11-13-2007, 06:04 PM
Can anyone comment on Howard U. or U Mizz-Columbia?

ophthogirl
11-15-2007, 08:16 PM
so i only have a tiny bit of input - i met a guy training at howard - he was really happy with his training and with his quality of life.
sorry i know that's like nothing

i'm really posting for selfish reasons: i want to know what people think of umdnj vs vanderbilt

i know umdnj has great training but i want to know how it stacks up to vanderbilt - ie i have to choose between them for interview and dont know which to pick

bruinteg
11-20-2007, 06:22 PM
Can anyone comment on Howard U. or U Mizz-Columbia?

Got a Howard U interview on the 11th - no idea about the program - so we'll see

surgicalrecall
11-20-2007, 10:50 PM
any thoughts on UofRochester? (NY)

Andrew_Doan
11-22-2007, 12:11 PM
I saw this on another thread. http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=410273

We should set up something like this for ophtho residencies. My guess is that an SDN administrator like Andrew Doan would need to get involved to set this up and make it a sticky. I would be more than happy to contribute what I have learned from the interview process.

What do you guys think? Lets do it!

We can do something like this. I'll work on this for this forum.

Andrew_Doan
11-22-2007, 12:14 PM
Use the links below to read and provide comments about specific ophthalmology residency programs.

Table of Contents

Alabama
University of Alabama Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868026)

Arizona
University of Arizona (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868032)

Arkansas
University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868039)

California
California Pacific Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868042)
Loma Linda University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=470603)
Naval Medical Center (San Diego) Program (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868048)
Stanford University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868050)
UCLA Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868051)
University of California (Davis) Health System (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868058)
University of California (Irvine) (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869106#post5869106)
University of California (San Diego) (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868061)
University of California (San Francisco) (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868086)
University of Southern California/LAC+USC Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868092)

Colorado
University of Colorado (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868097)

Connecticut
Yale-New Haven Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868109#post5868109)

District of Columbia
George Washington University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868128#post5868128)
Georgetown University Hospital/Washington Hospital Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868135#post5868135)
Howard University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868142#post5868142)
National Capital Consortium (Walter Reed) (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868151#post5868151)

Florida
Jackson Memorial Hospital/Jackson Health System (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868156#post5868156) (Bascom Palmer)
University of Florida (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868159#post5868159)
University of South Florida (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868177#post5868177)

Georgia
Emory University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868190#post5868190)
Medical College of Georgia (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868193#post5868193)

Illinois
Cook County Hospital (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868195#post5868195)
Loyola University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868199#post5868199)
McGaw Medical Center of Northwestern University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868206#post5868206)
Rush University Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868209#post5868209)
University of Chicago (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868213#post5868213)
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868220#post5868220)

Indiana
Indiana University School of Medicine (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868232#post5868232)

Iowa
University of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868236#post5868236)

Kansas
University of Kansas Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868307#post5868307)

Kentucky
University of Kentucky College of Medicine (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868310#post5868310)
University of Louisville (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868316#post5868316)

Louisiana
Louisiana State University (Shreveport) (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868321#post5868321)
Louisiana State University/Alton Ochsner Medical Foundation (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868326#post5868326)
Tulane University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868328#post5868328)

Maryland
Johns Hopkins University/Sinai Hospital of Baltimore (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868342#post5868342)
Maryland General Hospital (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868343#post5868343)
Sinai Hospital of Baltimore (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868348#post5868348)
University of Maryland (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868353#post5868353)

Massachusetts
Boston University Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868356#post5868356)
Massachusetts Eye and Ear Infirmary (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868362#post5868362)
Tufts-New England Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868367#post5868367)

Michigan
Henry Ford Hospital (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868371#post5868371)
University of Michigan (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868379#post5868379)
Wayne State University/Detroit Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868384#post5868384)
William Beaumont Hospital (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868387#post5868387)

Minnesota
Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education (Rochester) (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868392#post5868392)
University of Minnesota (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868395#post5868395)

Mississippi
University of Mississippi Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868396#post5868396)

Missouri
St Louis University School of Medicine (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868399#post5868399)
University of Missouri at Kansas City (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868405#post5868405)
University of Missouri-Columbia (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868407#post5868407)
Washington University/B-JH/SLCH Consortium (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868414#post5868414)

Nebraska
University of Nebraska Medical Center College of Medicine (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868419#post5868419)

New Jersey
UMDNJ-New Jersey Medical School (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868422#post5868422)

New York
Albany Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868426#post5868426)
Albert Einstein College of Medicine (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868435#post5868435)
Bronx-Lebanon Hospital Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868443#post5868443)
Mount Sinai School of Medicine (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868445#post5868445)
Nassau University Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868447#post5868447)
New York Eye and Ear Infirmary (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868450#post5868450)
New York Medical College (Brooklyn-Queens) (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868451#post5868451)
New York Medical College at St Vincent's Hospital and Medical Center of New York (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868455#post5868455)
New York Medical College at Westchester (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868458#post5868458)
New York Presbyterian Hospital (Columbia Campus) (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868460#post5868460)
New York Presbyterian Hospital (Cornell Campus) (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868988#post5868988)
New York University School of Medicine (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868991#post5868991)
NSLIJHS Program (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868997#post5868997)
St Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869006#post5869006)
SUNY at Stony Brook (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869009#post5869009)
SUNY Health Science Center at Brooklyn (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869027#post5869027)
SUNY Upstate Medical University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869029#post5869029)
University at Buffalo (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869017#post5869017)
University of Rochester (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869020#post5869020)

North Carolina
Duke University Hospital (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869039#post5869039)
University of North Carolina Hospitals (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869045#post5869045)
Wake Forest University School of Medicine (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869046#post5869046)

Ohio
Cleveland Clinic Foundation (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869050#post5869050)
Ohio State University Hospital (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869053#post5869053)
Summa Health System/NEOUCOM (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869056#post5869056)
University Hospital/University of Cincinnati College of Medicine (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869058#post5869058)
University Hospitals Case Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869060#post5869060)

Oklahoma
University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869064#post5869064)

Oregon
Oregon Health & Science University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869068#post5869068)

Pennsylvania
Drexel University College of Medicine/Hahnemann University Hospital (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869072#post5869072)
Geisinger Health System (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869074#post5869074)
Penn State University/Milton S Hershey Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869079#post5869079)
Temple University Hospital (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869084#post5869084)
Thomas Jefferson University/Wills Eye Institute (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869087#post5869087)
University of Pennsylvania (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869090#post5869090)
University of Pittsburgh Medical Center Medical Education (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869094#post5869094)

Puerto Rico
University of Puerto Rico (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869100#post5869100)

Rhode Island
Brown University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869111#post5869111)

South Carolina
Medical University of South Carolina (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869114#post5869114)
Palmetto Health/University of South Carolina School of Medicine (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869117#post5869117)

Tennessee
University of Tennessee (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869119#post5869119)
Vanderbilt University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869124#post5869124)

Texas
Baylor College of Medicine (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869129#post5869129)
San Antonio Uniformed Services Health Education Consortium (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869133#post5869133)
Texas A&M College of Medicine-Scott and White (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869139#post5869139)
Texas Tech University (Lubbock) (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869144#post5869144)
University of Texas at Houston (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869151#post5869151)
University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869155#post5869155)
University of Texas Medical Branch Hospitals (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869160#post5869160)
University of Texas Southwestern Medical School (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869165#post5869165)

Utah
University of Utah (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869168#post5869168)

Virginia
Eastern Virginia Medical School (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869172#post5869172)
University of Virginia (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869173#post5869173)
Virginia Commonwealth University Health System (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869176#post5869176)

Washington
Madigan Army Medical Center (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869180#post5869180)
University of Washington (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869183#post5869183)

West Virginia
West Virginia University (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869191#post5869191)

Wisconsin
Medical College of Wisconsin Affiliated Hospitals (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869196#post5869196)
University of Wisconsin (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5869204#post5869204)

Andrew_Doan
11-22-2007, 01:38 PM
I'm making separate threads for each program, each linked to this table of contents:

Ophthalmology Residency Program Compendium Table of Contents (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868016)

I encourage you to place your input.

Jake the Snake
11-22-2007, 04:19 PM
I'm making separate threads for each program, each linked to this table of contents:

Ophthalmology Residency Program Compendium Table of Contents (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=5868016)

I encourage you to place your input.

you da man!:biglove:

Andrew_Doan
11-23-2007, 08:23 AM
SDN 2004 Match Stats:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=100344

SDN 2005 Match Stats:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=169692

SDN 2006 Match Stats:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=253556

SDN 2007 Match Stats:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=353655

Andrew_Doan
11-23-2007, 09:56 AM
Finished!

I went through this thread and placed quoted responses in their appropriate ophthalmology residency program threads. This seems to work nicely and will allow people to add comments and reviews about programs, as well as looking up information about programs.

piper2108
09-18-2008, 02:56 PM
Does anyone have any information regarding this program?

EyeMD applicant
09-21-2008, 08:30 PM
Does anyone have any information about this program?

Corn Dog
10-02-2008, 06:27 PM
The link to vandy program is empty.

Can I kindly ask for some feedback/comments about the program? Thanks.

Corn Dog
10-02-2008, 06:29 PM
I've heard good things about this program... Would appreciate comments.

Again, the link to the school had no comments. Thanks.

ajbear
11-11-2008, 07:21 PM
Hey guys - I'm looking for some info on the UNC program. Has anyone interviewed there or does anyone have any opinions on this program? I would really appreciate the help!