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Loc Finesse 02-10-2008, 06:10 PM I thought we should get a thread going (it may be a stretch).....:)
Anyone applying to an Au.D program for Fall '08? How are you feeling? Any acceptances?
I've applied to schools and the wait time is killing me! Or maybe schools have already sent acceptances and I'm waiting like the last sad kid waiting to picked. :(
I think I need support and a hug.
HearingDoc2013 02-13-2008, 06:08 PM I'll be applying for Fall 09. What schools did you apply to?
Loc Finesse 02-15-2008, 06:24 PM I'll be applying for Fall 09. What schools did you apply to?
Ok, so don't laugh at me..I applied to one school that I really wanted to go to (UNC-Chapel Hill)...Got rejected! It's not the end of the world (I'm a non-trad applicant), I'll work at my high-paying job for one more year :p
So I'll refine my skills and boost my GREs a bit, and apply to more schools (duh!) for Fall '09....
Lambert56 02-17-2008, 11:32 AM I am planning to apply to AuD programs for Fall 09 and I was wondering how people afford school and board? I have to pay for schooling myself so I've just been working to pay for rent and taking out loans for tuition. But I've heard that managing a job is almost impossible in the AuD program. How do students pay for housing and tuition without putting themselves in extreme debt? Also, it's likely that I'll have to go out of state for schooling, so that'll just add to the costs. Thanks :)
Loc Finesse 02-17-2008, 12:06 PM I am planning to apply to AuD programs for Fall 09 and I was wondering how people afford school and board? I have to pay for schooling myself so I've just been working to pay for rent and taking out loans for tuition. But I've heard that managing a job is almost impossible in the AuD program. How do students pay for housing and tuition without putting themselves in extreme debt? Also, it's likely that I'll have to go out of state for schooling, so that'll just add to the costs. Thanks :)
I am in the same boat, as well. If you start to look early enough, financial aid (non-loans) is out there. You WILL get a ton of loans in your fin aid package too, and that's how schooling/room/board/bills/food is paid. After a year, students apply for in-state residency, of course, state school tuition is reduced, and I think (correct if wrong) some private will shave expenses. It would be ideal to get a fellowship to pay for the bulk of the debt. It would be in your favor to apply for school in state, but I understand that many programs are not within reach, or only offered through private universities.
From what I heard (and observed), the Au.D program is intense, as with any higher education study. Someone asked about the level of difficult in the audiology program, and the responses given were right on point! So I agree that trying to keep a job is not an option; studying/prep for classes & clinical equipment, rotations, study groups and research is like a full time job:cool:.
lilbhack7 02-21-2008, 07:55 AM I am also applying for AuD in fall of 2008. I'm so nervous and no one I know is applying for Audiology. All of my friends here at school want to be SLP's and a few of them have heard back from their colleges but I haven't heard anything yet. The wait is killing me. Hopefully soon though :)
linz8641 02-21-2008, 07:46 PM I am!! I applied to 8 schools:
auburn - accepted
uf
usf - accepted
ut-dallas - accepted
uconn - accepted
purdue - waitlisted
vanderbilt - rejected
northwestern - accepted
and have only heard back from Northwestern, but I was accepted!!! I'm so excited, Vanderbilt is the only school on my list that's ranked above them so I'm hoping to get 100% acceptance. My top school is UF, but I'm really hoping some school is going to offer me a full ride + a stipend. I aim high, but I'm worth it I worked HARD! :)
Lambert56 02-22-2008, 08:49 AM Wow, great job! If you don't mind me asking, what did your gpa and gre look like? I'm really nervous about getting in anywhere. I haven't taken the gre's yet, but I don't generally do very well on standardized tests. my gpa is 3.6, so that's not too competitive either. :P
lilbhack7 02-25-2008, 09:48 PM I applied to mostly schools in Ohio:
Ohio State
University of Cincinnati
The northeast consortium ( kent, akron cleveland)
Ohio University
And then Rush in Chicago.
I haven't heard anything yet...
My Gre was above 1000 which is what most schools want, and is higher than most people I talk to here. Most of the people in my major (hearing and speech) haven't even broken 1000 on their GRE's which makes me feel good. My gpa is a 3.5 so thats not too exciting but I feel I have one up at least on people at my school. My letters of rec. should be pretty good, I mean they are from good people so I feel that I have a good application overall. Who knows though.
I'm really worried about not being accepted anywhere. I have no back up plans lol. I have an interview Friday so that should be fun.
I wish AuD programs would accept more people :( And we can all get into everywhere we apply ;)
linz8641 02-26-2008, 07:06 PM Wow, great job! If you don't mind me asking, what did your gpa and gre look like? I'm really nervous about getting in anywhere. I haven't taken the gre's yet, but I don't generally do very well on standardized tests. my gpa is 3.6, so that's not too competitive either. :P
I think you were talking to me... My GPA is a 3.4 overall and a 3.9 in the major and I got a 530V + 710Q = 1240. & Update: I also got into UConn and was waitlisted at Purdue.
KBT9999 02-27-2008, 07:17 AM Update: I also got into UConn and was waitlisted at Purdue.
UConn must have just sent their letters. I got a rejection one on Monday :(
Still have 6 more to go though.
KBT9999 02-27-2008, 07:29 AM I applied to mostly schools in Ohio:
Ohio State
University of Cincinnati
The northeast consortium ( kent, akron cleveland)
Ohio University
And then Rush in Chicago.
have you heard anything from Norteast Consortium? my status online says under review and was just updated to say application incomplete but I cant get in touch with anyone at the school....voicemails and no email returned for several days now.
lilbhack7 02-27-2008, 07:48 AM I haven't heard anything. I applied to Kent so their deadline isn't until Saturday... But I did get an email from someone at Kent and I'm going to an open house/interview this Friday. Did you apply to Kent or Akron? And if so are you going to the open house friday?
KBT9999 02-27-2008, 08:03 AM I applied to Akron. I cant make the open house. I'm in Boston and $ just doesnt permit it right now.
lilbhack7 02-27-2008, 09:43 AM yeah that is understandable. I'm driving up tomorrow if the weather is alright.
sandst 02-28-2008, 09:53 AM I applied at University of North Texas in Denton for this fall. I am anxiously awaiting word. That is the only one, since I am not really willing to move. I also applied for the speech program there and at Texas Woman's University as a backup just in case. I don't have a great GPA (3.0 cumulative, graduated 10 years ago from UNT but have taken about 6 classes since with all A's). GRE scores were about 920 total. Not great, but I am hoping my work experience as an audiology assistant and my good recommendation letters will help. We will see. I don't think I have a great chance. It is unfortunate, because I would LOVE this field and think I would do well in it. I love technology, science, and kids. Perfect combo. Oh well. Can't go back 10 years and retake my last undergrad semester. I took too many classes I didn't care about because I just wanted to graduate and get out of there, and I made too many C's. Anyway, speech is still a good backup for me, but I am not sure they will accept me either!!
lilbhack7 02-28-2008, 11:32 AM yeah well good luck! I just hate waiting with no word back from any of my schools. It's getting very depressing. My roommate is applying for speech and like every couple of days she is hearing back from places. She got into purdue which is like her dream school, and I haven't received one letter from one school. I applied to all of the schools she did, except purdue and they had the same deadlines. I would think since less people apply for Audiology that they would make decisions faster. I suppose I am wrong.
KBT9999 02-28-2008, 01:23 PM I applied to UNT too! I just sent my app last week so of course havent heard anything yet.
lilbhack7 03-02-2008, 04:37 PM I heard from my first school saturday! I got into Rush University in Chicago. That means we should start hearing more from other schools soon!
KBT9999 03-02-2008, 07:06 PM I heard from my first school saturday! I got into Rush University in Chicago. That means we should start hearing more from other schools soon!
Congrats!
How was the Kent State open house?
lilbhack7 03-02-2008, 08:34 PM Thanks!!
Um I have mixed feelings about it. Here at Ohio University we have an AWESOME facility and I found the facilities in akron and kent lacking the "niceness" that we have here. The cleveland clinic is awesome.... and would be a great place to extern. However, they only accept 7, 4th years to extern there. And out of 20 the odds aren't that great. They made it unclear about clinic though and I wasn't sure if clinic would be held there or at akron.
The good things about it were: Cleveland Clinic, faculty= (really nice), and i've heard they give a lot of funding. They had 65 people apply and are accepting 20.
The bad things: Kent's facility- its not awful but I just feel like i'd like something nicer. , and i'm just a big city kind of gal... kent and akron weren't my thing.
It really made me rethink my top choices but i'm so glad I went.
MissAuD 03-02-2008, 11:11 PM I am planning to apply to AuD programs for Fall 09 and I was wondering how people afford school and board? I have to pay for schooling myself so I've just been working to pay for rent and taking out loans for tuition. But I've heard that managing a job is almost impossible in the AuD program. How do students pay for housing and tuition without putting themselves in extreme debt? Also, it's likely that I'll have to go out of state for schooling, so that'll just add to the costs. Thanks :)
It is impossible to work and go to school full time. Apply for an assistantship within your program. You'll receive a tuition stipend as well as get paid for doing some work within the department. Although mine doesn't cover all of my tuition, my financial aid (Stafford loans) covered the rest. I go to a state school, as well.
KBT9999 03-03-2008, 07:36 AM Thanks!!
Um I have mixed feelings about it. Here at Ohio University we have an AWESOME facility and I found the facilities in akron and kent lacking the "niceness" that we have here. The cleveland clinic is awesome.... and would be a great place to extern. However, they only accept 7, 4th years to extern there. And out of 20 the odds aren't that great. They made it unclear about clinic though and I wasn't sure if clinic would be held there or at akron.
The good things about it were: Cleveland Clinic, faculty= (really nice), and i've heard they give a lot of funding. They had 65 people apply and are accepting 20.
The bad things: Kent's facility- its not awful but I just feel like i'd like something nicer. , and i'm just a big city kind of gal... kent and akron weren't my thing.
It really made me rethink my top choices but i'm so glad I went.
Thanks, good info to know!
lilbhack7 03-03-2008, 02:45 PM No problem, I think it's just one of those things you should check out yourself. I hate it when people talk about how "bad" a program is when others really want to go there. I think it is a great program, there were just certain aspects that didn't fit for me
marcrusc 03-03-2008, 10:03 PM How many people here are applying to Vanderbilt? Given their ranking, I would have assumed that it would be a more popular choice. Anyways, I got into Purdue, so I am really excited.
lilbhack7 03-04-2008, 07:47 AM I didn't apply, mainly because I just didn't feel like moving that far away and I figure i should get a good education wherever I go. Congratulations on getting into purdue, that's awesome! My roommate just got in there for speech pathology. She was so excited! I was going to apply there but last minute decided to apply to Rush.
BigAl 03-09-2008, 07:06 PM wow, now I am worried after reading all these posts. I'm applying for Fall 09, im graduating with a degree in speech and hearing sciences. Haven't taken my GREs yet, my major gpa is pretty low at 3.4 but i will be getting good recommendation letters from Ph.D holding professors. I spoke with the someone from Syracuse at the ASHA convention and he told me that, a not so great recommendation letter from a Ph.D looks better than an ok letter from an instructor that only has a masters. I guess all my hope is riding on those letters and getting a good GRE score, cause seems like my gpa isn't worth a darn. Hopefully the research I am assisting in will help as well. Anyone have any pointers for the GRE? Are there any other males out there besides me?
lilbhack7 03-10-2008, 07:07 AM Don't worry. I had a GPA of a 3.45 and i got an 1100 on my GRE. I got accepted into two schools so far and waitlisted in another. I"m still waiting on a few but I know i'm accepted somewhere. I would def. refresh your math skills for the GRE
marcrusc 03-10-2008, 12:17 PM People tend to overesitmate the importance of numbers in applying to Audiology programs. We have to remember that this is not law school. The essay actually matters here. I am 4 for 4 with a 1200 gre and a 3.226 gpa, because of a very well crafted personal statement. Not to mention, I am a German major. The goal is to emotionally attach the reader in the beginning, explain qualifications in the middle, and then give some kind of motivational section at the end, which causes the reader to want to act on your behalf. As for recs, my undergraduate school happens to have a graduate AuD program, so I was able to take a couple AuD classes as an undergrad. These are good rec choices. One of my rec writers was actually on the admissions commitee. This is undoubtedly helpful. In the end, do not freak about numbers. If you are able to hit the averages for the given program, you writing will push you over.
BigAl 03-10-2008, 09:49 PM well thats somewhat of a relief. now back to stressing over the GRE, lol
Audiology2012 03-11-2008, 01:30 PM I am still waiting on my letter. Have any of you received your letters? If so were you accepted? How about funding?
Thanks!:confused:
KBT9999 03-11-2008, 01:55 PM I applied to 7 schools and have only heard back from one (UConn). All of them had a Feb 1 deadline or later so it has only been a little over a month but the wait is driving me crazy. We should start hearing very soon. A lot of schools say between March 15 & April 15th.
lilbhack7 03-12-2008, 07:48 AM Ummm I got into Rush University in Chicago, University of Cincinnati, and I got waitlisted at Ohio University (my undergrad)
Im still waiting on Ohio State, and The Northeast Consortium
As for funding, Cincinnati= no funding and I wont know about Rush until April.
I talked to the financial aid guy at rush and he told me with living and tuition it was going to be about 43-45,000 a year. I wanted to cry.... multiply that by four and thats a pretty big amount of loans i'm gonna be in debt when i get out. I really wanted to go there but without any financial help its not happening.
AuDie 03-13-2008, 12:15 PM I am still waiting on my letter. Have any of you received your letters? If so were you accepted? How about funding?
Thanks!:confused:
I just got a call from James Madison today and got accepted with an offer of a GA which should pay for most of my first year. I'm still waiting on my first choice (UNC-Chapel Hill), which should give me a decision by this Saturday. I'm so nervous about it...anyone know how difficult it is to get into UNC/typical qualifications of an accepted student there?
Loc Finesse 03-15-2008, 07:10 PM A question for current/ newly admitted Audiology students ...
Did you do campus visits during your application process? How many programs (on average) did you apply to? Was a mentor involved during this process?
I've tossed around the idea of getting an admissions consultant (just thinking) to assist with the application process. (The angel/devil on my shoulder says, "you've either got the goods or don't!") Has anyone else done this before? Were they helpful?
Thanks for your input..
Loc Finesse 03-15-2008, 09:19 PM I'm still waiting on my first choice (UNC-Chapel Hill), which should give me a decision by this Saturday. I'm so nervous about it...anyone know how difficult it is to get into UNC/typical qualifications of an accepted student there?
Have you heard a response from UNC? Best of luck to you *crossing my fingers* It is pretty hard & competitive to get into the program....
AuDie 03-17-2008, 06:06 AM Have you heard a response from UNC? Best of luck to you *crossing my fingers* It is pretty hard & competitive to get into the program....
gah! the letter hasn't come yet. they sent it expedited service on thursday, but it may have been a private carrier (which don't do weekend deliveries) so I'll probably get it today. Otherwise I'm calling the office to get a new one sent. I'll hopefully know by the end of the day. :X *crosses fingers*
AuDie 03-18-2008, 10:54 AM gah! the letter hasn't come yet. they sent it expedited service on thursday, but it may have been a private carrier (which don't do weekend deliveries) so I'll probably get it today. Otherwise I'm calling the office to get a new one sent. I'll hopefully know by the end of the day. :X *crosses fingers*
Letter came and got waitlisted (boo). They take people from the waitlist every year though so I still might have a shot.
AuDTNStudent 03-18-2008, 01:27 PM Hello All!
I did my undergrad at Vanderbilt and thought I was a shoo-in for a spot there, but I was sadly mistaken. So I gathered up my pride worked on my GRE and statement of purpose and reapplied this year to Vanderbilt and a few others.
I applied to 9 schools for the 08'-09' class.
(1) Vanderbilt
University of Tennessee
East Tennessee State University
James Madison University
(13) Gallaudet University
(22) University of Connecticut
Northern Colorado
(3) University of Washington
(4) Northwestern University
()= rankings, but I know that rankings don't always indicate everything
So far I have gotten into: UTK, ETSU, UConn, Gallaudet
I've been waitlisted at: Northwestern, University of Washington, James Madison
I was declined AGAIN at: Vanderbilt
and I haven't heard from Northern Colorado
There is no way that I could visit all these places, but I still want to make the best decision. Has anyone visited any of these places? If so can you share some info about the facilities, etc.? I really want to find out more info about some of my out of state school before I decide.
I've been to East TN, and UTk and obviously Vanderbilt's facilities and I'd be happy to share my experiences if anyone wants to hear about it.
Any help/info any could share would be awesome!
Thanks!
AuDie 03-18-2008, 01:48 PM Hello All!
I did my undergrad at Vanderbilt and thought I was a shoo-in for a spot there, but I was sadly mistaken. So I gathered up my pride worked on my GRE and statement of purpose and reapplied this year to Vanderbilt and a few others.
I applied to 9 schools for the 08'-09' class.
(1) Vanderbilt
University of Tennessee
East Tennessee State University
James Madison University
(13) Gallaudet University
(22) University of Connecticut
Northern Colorado
(3) University of Washington
(4) Northwestern University
()= rankings, but I know that rankings don't always indicate everything
So far I have gotten into: UTK, ETSU, UConn, Gallaudet
I've been waitlisted at: Northwestern, University of Washington, James Madison
I was declined AGAIN at: Vanderbilt
and I haven't heard from Northern Colorado
There is no way that I could visit all these places, but I still want to make the best decision. Has anyone visited any of these places? If so can you share some info about the facilities, etc.? I really want to find out more info about some of my out of state school before I decide.
I've been to East TN, and UTk and obviously Vanderbilt's facilities and I'd be happy to share my experiences if anyone wants to hear about it.
Any help/info any could share would be awesome!
Thanks!
I visited James Madison last week for an interview.
Pluses:
The faculty there are really laid back and friendly and come from a variety of academic backgrounds (not just audiology). The campus itself is set in the middle of a very pretty valley (shenandoah). They conduct research on hearing using quail, chickens, and some songbirds so they have an aviary room.
Drawbacks:
The cirriculum there is rather rigid (you have no elective options-it's all set in stone so if you wanted to focus on a particular part of audiology you won't have the option). You also have very little flexibility when it comes to your 4th year externship (they highly discourage picking your own site and prefer to send you through a rotation of three sites in VA). These might be pluses for some people, but I want the option to be able to travel a little bit during grad school.
P.S. I also haven't heard a peep from Northern Colorado.
linz8641 03-18-2008, 02:32 PM A question for current/ newly admitted Audiology students ...
Did you do campus visits during your application process? How many programs (on average) did you apply to? Was a mentor involved during this process?
I've tossed around the idea of getting an admissions consultant (just thinking) to assist with the application process. (The angel/devil on my shoulder says, "you've either got the goods or don't!") Has anyone else done this before? Were they helpful?
Thanks for your input..
I went to 1 open house/campus visit, next week I'm going to visit another school I got accepted to (Auburn) and the one I went to the open house at (USF) and if I hate both of them I'll fly to Northwestern and check that out. I applied to 8 schools, my mentor was my Audiology teacher and she has been a LOT of help. I would spend the money on a GRE prep class and find a free mentor in one of your professor, most of them want to help you anyway.
linz8641 03-18-2008, 02:34 PM People tend to overesitmate the importance of numbers in applying to Audiology programs. We have to remember that this is not law school. The essay actually matters here. I am 4 for 4 with a 1200 gre and a 3.226 gpa, because of a very well crafted personal statement. Not to mention, I am a German major. The goal is to emotionally attach the reader in the beginning, explain qualifications in the middle, and then give some kind of motivational section at the end, which causes the reader to want to act on your behalf. As for recs, my undergraduate school happens to have a graduate AuD program, so I was able to take a couple AuD classes as an undergrad. These are good rec choices. One of my rec writers was actually on the admissions commitee. This is undoubtedly helpful. In the end, do not freak about numbers. If you are able to hit the averages for the given program, you writing will push you over.
i'm guessing from your username you're a male, don't underestimate that.
ok i was feeling bitter about a guy who scored lower than me, had a lower gpa, and got waitlisted at my top choice while i got rejected. i actually just skimmed your post and when i re-read it realized you know the professors at your program which i'm sure helped.
Audiology2012 03-18-2008, 05:50 PM q
BigAl 03-19-2008, 09:57 PM i'm guessing from your username you're a male, don't underestimate that.
are you implying, that because he is a male that is why he got in? i don't want to be accepted into a program based on affirmative action :thumbdown
Audiology2012 03-20-2008, 09:13 AM q
AuDTNStudent 03-20-2008, 01:52 PM Hi! I applied to UTK too, but I didn't get in. Would you mind telling me your GRE & GPA? I am trying to figure out why I didn't get in. Congrats!
Actually I would consider myself average to blow average in terms of numbers. My GPA was 3.5 and my GRE (don't laugh) was 1080. I think that my Essay was my strong point. I had it edited by a couple of professors including one AuD from my undergrad and one PhD Northwestern.
AuDTNStudent 03-20-2008, 01:57 PM I visited James Madison last week for an interview.
Pluses:
The faculty there are really laid back and friendly and come from a variety of academic backgrounds (not just audiology). The campus itself is set in the middle of a very pretty valley (shenandoah). They conduct research on hearing using quail, chickens, and some songbirds so they have an aviary room.
Drawbacks:
The cirriculum there is rather rigid (you have no elective options-it's all set in stone so if you wanted to focus on a particular part of audiology you won't have the option). You also have very little flexibility when it comes to your 4th year externship (they highly discourage picking your own site and prefer to send you through a rotation of three sites in VA). These might be pluses for some people, but I want the option to be able to travel a little bit during grad school.
P.S. I also haven't heard a peep from Northern Colorado.
East TN State has the same 4th year philosophy, which I am not partial to. Hey would you mind letting me know when you hear from Northern Colorado? I'm hoping for the best with them, but this waiting is pretty miserable.
linz8641 03-20-2008, 07:44 PM are you implying, that because he is a male that is why he got in? i don't want to be accepted into a program based on affirmative action :thumbdown
it's called diversity these days haha.
Loc Finesse 03-21-2008, 04:27 PM At my undergraduate institution, speech pathology and audiology constitute one department. My major classes have around 80 students total. Of those students 3 or 4 are audiology, the rest are speech pathology. Rarely do you find a male in any undergraduate audiology/speech pathology class. Now, the graduate school accepted 8 Au.D students; 6 male 2 female and the speech department accepted 20 or so females and 1 male...not to mention all of the foreign "exchange" (although I never hear of any American students exchanging to China to study) students accepted. In addition, according to a study by the University of Texas, foreign students have a distinct advantage getting into Audiology programs. According to their data a recommended score of 550 on the TOEFL would put you in the 39th percentile. While English speaking students have to take the GRE and score 500 verbal and 500 quantitative which is the 70th percentile. So, a foreign student has to do about half as well as an American student. With the current emphasis on diversity in universities, should highly qualified applicants be bypassed just for the sake of diversity and or gender? :confused:
I'm a little confused..... Is your argument about non-English international students getting into programs, or admitting under-/ non-qualified students for the sake of diversity??
I'm going to try to address the international student aspect....
As complex as the English language is (and considered one of the hardest languages to learn), we've developed its syntax, semantics, morphology etc., etc fluently and effectively (oral & written) at a young age. The same goes for any native learner of their language.
So what's wrong with learning approx. 50% of English?? It's functional for our society! As the student matriculates, they will pick up the fine details of English. By the end of the program, they'll probably master 70% of English. Academically, they also have to take the same comprehensive exam/thesis/dissertation we take at the end of their program and pass! At that point, no professor will allow 50% of correctly written/oral English.
Maybe this student will be going back to his/her country to practice audiology, in which learning and/ or mastering the English language is not a necessity.
Aside from English, international students need to be competent in other fields (science, math) to be admitted into a program, and they, excuse my English, "blow us (Americans) out the water" re: math & science skills, and sometimes our own English!:laugh:
I look at it this way, students are admitted because a committee felt they were qualified enough to complete an advanced degree. They are admitted b/c they were meant to be there and not b/c of a quota!
marcrusc 03-21-2008, 08:50 PM It is unfortunate that people are trying to use gender and nationality to perhaps explain away admissions decisions with which they disagree. I would argue that this is not the case. At Vanderbilt, there are 0 male first year AuDs. There are 0 second year AuDs. The first sign of unfair pro-testosterone bias is in the third year, where there are 2 males out of a class of 13! Surely this rampant bias must be stopped. As for international students, during my application process, I spoke with a graduate professor on the phone who expressed the sentiment that it is less likely that an international student would be admitted. This is due to the increased complexity of them joining the program. It is easier for a person to come from Louisiana than London. Though this was not a Vanderbilt professor, I do note that there are no foreign students in Vandy's audiology. Also, there are no admitted foreign students at Vanderbilt, U of Memphis, University of Tennessee-Knoxvile, or Purdue, that I am aware of. I was admitted to all those programs and have asked about the other admitted students. Perhaps my sample size is too small. Perhaps the male-female ratio of every program I have ever looked at is also an outlier, because they are all overwhelmingly female. What is more likely, however, is that the few males attempting to go into the field have a very specific, definable reason for doing so. This is more conducive to the writing process than a more generic desire to help people. Just as males in nursing can often recount a specific moment in time where they set there mind to joining a female dominated field, to perhaps a lesser extent, the same is true of males in Audiology. All of this is to say that we should not blame a bias towards others for our rejections. Instead, we should admit to ourselves that we will not always win. That is fine.
I am going to visit U of Memphis next week if anyone would like any information about the program. I also have tons of information about Vanderbilt, as I have already taken some grad classes.
DANE40 03-22-2008, 03:31 AM Just got letter from Montclair State University.:)
The progam is 25 minutes away, but 118 credits are required to graduate.
I will still go to an upcoming interview.
My GRE was not the greatest but the essay was comprehensive.
My recs came from a Ph.D., an M.D., an Ed.D., and an Assistant Dean.
DANE40 03-22-2008, 03:34 AM Just got letter from Montclair State University.:)
The progam is 25 minutes away, but 118 credits are required to graduate.
I will still go to an upcoming interview.
My GRE was not the greatest but the essay was comprehensive.
My recs came from a Ph.D., an M.D., an Ed.D., and an Assistant Dean.
DANE40 03-22-2008, 03:41 AM Very true. I increased my GRE......still below yours but completed phonetics, basic audiology, and hearing science with A's. I became a COHC, and joined the American Auditory Society. I took greater care in writing the essay this time around.
AuDTNStudent 03-22-2008, 05:40 PM It is unfortunate that people are trying to use gender and nationality to perhaps explain away admissions decisions with which they disagree. I would argue that this is not the case. At Vanderbilt, there are 0 male first year AuDs. There are 0 second year AuDs. The first sign of unfair pro-testosterone bias is in the third year, where there are 2 males out of a class of 13! Surely this rampant bias must be stopped. As for international students, during my application process, I spoke with a graduate professor on the phone who expressed the sentiment that it is less likely that an international student would be admitted. This is due to the increased complexity of them joining the program. It is easier for a person to come from Louisiana than London. Though this was not a Vanderbilt professor, I do note that there are no foreign students in Vandy's audiology. Also, there are no admitted foreign students at Vanderbilt, U of Memphis, University of Tennessee-Knoxvile, or Purdue, that I am aware of. I was admitted to all those programs and have asked about the other admitted students. Perhaps my sample size is too small. Perhaps the male-female ratio of every program I have ever looked at is also an outlier, because they are all overwhelmingly female. What is more likely, however, is that the few males attempting to go into the field have a very specific, definable reason for doing so. This is more conducive to the writing process than a more generic desire to help people. Just as males in nursing can often recount a specific moment in time where they set there mind to joining a female dominated field, to perhaps a lesser extent, the same is true of males in Audiology. All of this is to say that we should not blame a bias towards others for our rejections. Instead, we should admit to ourselves that we will not always win. That is fine.
I am going to visit U of Memphis next week if anyone would like any information about the program. I also have tons of information about Vanderbilt, as I have already taken some grad classes.
I would like to ask you opinion about programs, since you are doing the same type of research I am. Have you heard good things about UTK's program? I went to visit but I am looking for some outside opinions from people not connect to UTK (if possible any specific university. I am having a hard time finding an unbias opinion on the quality of programs. I do not want to assume that they are equal (even though the professors at each have said so thus far) without seeking out several untainted opinions.
Also have you heard anything about East TN states program? Gallaudet's? UConn's?
THANKS!!
marcrusc 03-23-2008, 04:40 PM I have done a good bit of research about UTK and ETSU, because I thought of both of them as potential schools. In the end, I applied to only UTK out of the two. The reason for doing so was primarily based upon location. It is not that I have some great need for nightlife, but because the diversity of experiences at ETSU I felt would be somewhat limited. With the small number of people in the vicinity, I find it unlikely I will randomly have contact with the numbers and types of patients that I want. Perhaps someone who has attended their program can correct me. Also, with a smaller school comes less funding for the program. I don't mind taking loans, but I want my program to have all the equipment and facilities that it needs. I worry that while perhaps the medical school helps in this regard, the Audiology program might be overshadowed. It seems to me to be the type of town where ABRs would be the first test for neuropathy instead of MRIs. This won't do unless one is looking to continue working in the same type of small town. As for UTK, my only concerns are the lack of funding for the fourth year externship and the dearth of concentrations. As I recall, the only one available at UTK is habilitation. While tinnitus is my first choice of study, it is not available in tennessee. Therefore, I want to focus on cochlear implants. As I see it, this cannot be done to any great extent at UTK. Other than that, the medical center looks like it will provide a wealth of clinical experiences. Perhaps UTK is more standard and Vandy is abnormally good. I don't know, as vandy is my main experience. I am declining Purdue due to its 5 year AuD requirement and probably declining UTK due to the lack of their funding me. Being from Nasvhille, I am very fond of UTK, so I have nothing against them. As one of my Aud profs told me, all decent schools will get you a job just as easily. The difference between them is how many job offers you'll have to choose from. Therefore, it is down to U of Memphis and Vandy. Neither is funding me and the difference between costs is about 60k. I'll be at Memphis for the Midsouth Audiology Conference on thursday and friday, so I'll check out the school and let you know what I think.
I too am slightly irritated by professors' unwillingness to speak candidly about programs. When you get accepted by a program, you should be offered a student or two to speak with. This is invaluable. If it isn't offered, you should ask. Rankings are only so helpful, because they are based on research output, not clinical audiology training. Therefore, get what you can out of professors, make sure your decision is financially feasible (You'll only make 50k when you graduate), visit if you can, and speak with students. These are the things that I am trying to do. I can tell you later if it worked out.
AuDTNStudent 03-24-2008, 01:52 PM I have done a good bit of research about UTK and ETSU, because I thought of both of them as potential schools. In the end, I applied to only UTK out of the two. The reason for doing so was primarily based upon location. It is not that I have some great need for nightlife, but because the diversity of experiences at ETSU I felt would be somewhat limited. With the small number of people in the vicinity, I find it unlikely I will randomly have contact with the numbers and types of patients that I want. Perhaps someone who has attended their program can correct me. Also, with a smaller school comes less funding for the program. I don't mind taking loans, but I want my program to have all the equipment and facilities that it needs. I worry that while perhaps the medical school helps in this regard, the Audiology program might be overshadowed. It seems to me to be the type of town where ABRs would be the first test for neuropathy instead of MRIs. This won't do unless one is looking to continue working in the same type of small town. As for UTK, my only concerns are the lack of funding for the fourth year externship and the dearth of concentrations. As I recall, the only one available at UTK is habilitation. While tinnitus is my first choice of study, it is not available in tennessee. Therefore, I want to focus on cochlear implants. As I see it, this cannot be done to any great extent at UTK. Other than that, the medical center looks like it will provide a wealth of clinical experiences. Perhaps UTK is more standard and Vandy is abnormally good. I don't know, as vandy is my main experience. I am declining Purdue due to its 5 year AuD requirement and probably declining UTK due to the lack of their funding me. Being from Nasvhille, I am very fond of UTK, so I have nothing against them. As one of my Aud profs told me, all decent schools will get you a job just as easily. The difference between them is how many job offers you'll have to choose from. Therefore, it is down to U of Memphis and Vandy. Neither is funding me and the difference between costs is about 60k. I'll be at Memphis for the Midsouth Audiology Conference on thursday and friday, so I'll check out the school and let you know what I think.
I too am slightly irritated by professors' unwillingness to speak candidly about programs. When you get accepted by a program, you should be offered a student or two to speak with. This is invaluable. If it isn't offered, you should ask. Rankings are only so helpful, because they are based on research output, not clinical audiology training. Therefore, get what you can out of professors, make sure your decision is financially feasible (You'll only make 50k when you graduate), visit if you can, and speak with students. These are the things that I am trying to do. I can tell you later if it worked out.
:thumbup: Thanks a bunch. I have come to the same conclusion, and seeing how I will be moving a family financially feasible is a must.
willi113 03-28-2008, 03:16 PM I am finishing up the Au.D. program at Vanderbilt now. I also went to Northwestern for undergrad. I would be happy to answer any questions about these programs. It would be nice to be able to tell people what I wanted to know before coming here (that my overly school-spirited tour guides wouldn't answer). :)
AuDTNStudent 03-28-2008, 08:22 PM I am finishing up the Au.D. program at Vanderbilt now. I also went to Northwestern for undergrad. I would be happy to answer any questions about these programs. It would be nice to be able to tell people what I wanted to know before coming here (that my overly school-spirited tour guides wouldn't answer). :)
When you were looking at schools who besides Vandy did you apply to? Also since you have been in the AuD program have heard about any up and coming programs?
In regards to Northwestern: How is the cost of living in Chicago?
marcrusc 03-28-2008, 08:27 PM I just got back from the Midsouth Conference and spent two days visiting the U of Memphis if anybody needs any information.
willi113 03-28-2008, 11:29 PM When I was applying I applied to the following schools.
1. Northwestern
2. Vanderbilt
3. University of Washington
4. University of Maryland
5. University of Texas-Austin
6. University of Texas-Dallas
7. UCSD/San Diego State
8. UNC-Chapel Hill
9. University of Arizona
10. JMU
I got into all of them except for UNC (I was waitlisted). I visited UT-Austin, University of Washington, and I also visited Gallaudet (but decided not to apply afterwards)
As far as cost of living in Chicago... In Evanston (where your classes will be) I would expect to pay around 1000 for a not so nice one bedroom (read: no air conditioning, maybe a laundry room in the building, probably have to pay 100 or so extra a month to park a car, no dishwasher, etc.). Although I would say you can get a two bedroom for not much more maybe 1200-1500. I am also basing these estimates on when I graduated from there which was 2005 so it be worse now.
If you are willing to go farther away from school it gets a little better. Roger's Park is a neighborhood where a lot of graduate students live. It is undergoing gentrification so its kind of patchy, but overall safe enough and only a couple of miles from campus. A one bedroom in there would probably be about 800 or so.
Hope that helps
AuDTNStudent 03-30-2008, 09:55 AM When I was applying I applied to the following schools.
1. Northwestern
2. Vanderbilt
3. University of Washington
4. University of Maryland
5. University of Texas-Austin
6. University of Texas-Dallas
7. UCSD/San Diego State
8. UNC-Chapel Hill
9. University of Arizona
10. JMU
I got into all of them except for UNC (I was waitlisted). I visited UT-Austin, University of Washington, and I also visited Gallaudet (but decided not to apply afterwards)
As far as cost of living in Chicago... In Evanston (where your classes will be) I would expect to pay around 1000 for a not so nice one bedroom (read: no air conditioning, maybe a laundry room in the building, probably have to pay 100 or so extra a month to park a car, no dishwasher, etc.). Although I would say you can get a two bedroom for not much more maybe 1200-1500. I am also basing these estimates on when I graduated from there which was 2005 so it be worse now.
If you are willing to go farther away from school it gets a little better. Roger's Park is a neighborhood where a lot of graduate students live. It is undergoing gentrification so its kind of patchy, but overall safe enough and only a couple of miles from campus. A one bedroom in there would probably be about 800 or so.
Hope that helps
What made you not apply to Gallaudet? I will not be able to visit before I have to make my decision, so I'd love to hear about what you thought of the program, facilities, and faculty. Thanks :thumbup:
willi113 03-30-2008, 05:19 PM Mainly because I would feel unsafe living there. It is a pretty rough neighborhood (think: one set of bars across the windows was not sufficient). They have a gate around the university and a security guard at the gate, but he is deaf and I walked right by him without him noticing. Then I decided to go back and ask a question and I scared the **** out of him. So that didnt make me feel very safe. They also really want you to live in the dorm the first year if you don't know sign language and the dorms are really not very nice. I really didn't get a whole lot of information about the program at that open house. They didn't even show us the clinic. Sorry that wasn't more helpful
KBT9999 03-31-2008, 11:12 AM Has anyone heard from these schools? The wait is killing me!
University of North Texas
Northeastern
University of Northern Colorado
Akron/Kent (Northeast Constortium)
AuDie 03-31-2008, 11:23 AM Has anyone heard from these schools? The wait is killing me!
University of North Texas
Northeastern
University of Northern Colorado
Akron/Kent (Northeast Constortium)
I've also applied to Northern Colorado and haven't heard anything yet, but after talking with a few other applicants at an interview at another school I decided that it wouldn't be the place for me in any case due to the nature of the location, but best of luck if you're looking to go there!
elcobb 03-31-2008, 12:22 PM Hey everyone, I was doing a Google search on Au.D. program rankings and this forum popped up and I decided to join in on the fun :)
I wasn't really interested in being too awfully far from home, so I applied to UNC-Chapel Hill, ETSU, UTK, and Vanderbilt. I got into the first three and waitlisted at Vanderbilt, which surprised the heck out of me. :laugh: I figured they would reject me straightaway!
Right now I'm deciding between UTK and UNC... I've visited both and have been offered significant funding at UTK (would have to pay full tuition at UNC but I'm in-state so it's not that bad I suppose) but cannot seem to make a decision for the life of me. Glad to know I am not alone in this!
If anybody has any opinions on the strengths of the programs at UTK and UNC (for example, things you may have heard from professors, doctors, etc.) please share!
Good luck everyone with your decision-making!
PS- AuDTNstudent... I am pretty sure I had ETSU interviews (and Applebees!!) with you. Either that or you have someone running around out there with an almost identical school choice list and life situation! Haha :laugh:
AuDTNStudent 03-31-2008, 12:43 PM Hey everyone, I was doing a Google search on Au.D. program rankings and this forum popped up and I decided to join in on the fun :)
I wasn't really interested in being too awfully far from home, so I applied to UNC-Chapel Hill, ETSU, UTK, and Vanderbilt. I got into the first three and waitlisted at Vanderbilt, which surprised the heck out of me. :laugh: I figured they would reject me straightaway!
Right now I'm deciding between UTK and UNC... I've visited both and have been offered significant funding at UTK (would have to pay full tuition at UNC but I'm in-state so it's not that bad I suppose) but cannot seem to make a decision for the life of me. Glad to know I am not alone in this!
If anybody has any opinions on the strengths of the programs at UTK and UNC (for example, things you may have heard from professors, doctors, etc.) please share!
Good luck everyone with your decision-making!
PS- AuDTNstudent... I am pretty sure I had ETSU interviews (and Applebees!!) with you. Either that or you have someone running around out there with an almost identical school choice list and life situation! Haha :laugh:
Probably! LOL :laugh: How did you find out about UTK's funding you? I have asked but have not heard anything for sure yet. I am leaning towards them anyways though.
elcobb 03-31-2008, 12:47 PM They sent me an e-mail around the same time I got my acceptance letter in the mail from them, saying I qualified for some funding through a GA job. I have inquired as to the specifications but so far haven't gotten a response back. Do you remember when their notification deadline is? Is it April 15th or April 1st???! :eek:
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marcrusc 03-31-2008, 11:37 PM When choosing between UNC-Chapel Hill and UTK, the answer for me and those first years I have spoken to, is a resounding UNC. Though I have not heard anything near as dramatic as the undergraduate's experiences, UTK seems to be an up and coming program, that is not quite their yet. As we are entering in the Fall, we want a program that is already on top of its game. This info about UTK's reputation is coming from the professors of the other schools I am spoken with. As for my personal experience with UTK, I did find that they took a very long time returning emails and that not all emails were even returned. The fact that they took so long to return an email from a student that they had accepted might indicate some level of disorder. However, you can draw your own conclusions. The bottom line I have gathered from professors is twofold: There are very few Audiology programs that will be pleasing aesthetically (UW, UNC, WashU, Vandy). Great educations can be garnered from schools with broken ceiling tiles and 1970's wallpaper. U of Memphis comes to mind. Therefore, look at the professors and the types of audiologists that those professors produce. If you like what you see there, then go. Second, one will get a job just as easily from one top level school as another. The differentiation comes in the form of how many job offers one has upon graduation. We will all likely be working. Therefore, do not pay an additional 60K, because we think the name of a school and slightly superior rankings will take us to the next level. Your performance in your first position determines how great of a second position you receive, not your diploma. UTK is a fine school and I believe we could all learn to be highly competent audiologists through their program. However, frequent changing of professors and other general disorder is all a part of the growing pains any rising program will endure. I simply choose to avoid those pains if possible. Long story short, were I deciding between UTK and UNC and money was no matter, the answer is UNC 100/100. However, one should be very wary of heavy loans. None of us here will ever likely be rich.
elcobb 04-01-2008, 07:47 AM I liked everyone on faculty that I met during my visit to UTK, and felt that they were more than competent, but was a little overwhelmed by the amount of sheer chaos I felt permeated through the department. I know a lot of that has to do with their facilities, though.
One of the main benefits for the UTK program that I saw (in case anyone else wants to know haha) is that they still award a Master's degree halfway through the program. After 2 years, you are given the Master's, and then continue on to finish the Au.D. Although you can't practice with the Master's anymore as a new professional, it does seem like it would give you a little bit of a leg up getting an internship or job. Another thing is, if you put in 2 years of hard work and then decide you'd rather do something else, you can end it there and switch- and still have received a degree- and not wasted time.
I have a real love/hate relationship with UNC so I think that's playing a role in my decision-making. :)
AuDTNStudent 04-01-2008, 04:34 PM They sent me an e-mail around the same time I got my acceptance letter in the mail from them, saying I qualified for some funding through a GA job. I have inquired as to the specifications but so far haven't gotten a response back. Do you remember when their notification deadline is? Is it April 15th or April 1st???! :eek:
They told me April 15th. I got my email of acceptance before the letter came but they didn't mention anything about assistance. I hope that doesn't mean bad news!!!
marcrusc 04-04-2008, 08:20 PM With a decent starting salary being in the 50k range, how much debt are you guys willing to accept? 50k? 80k? 100k? This is a major issue for me in choosing a particular school. It is an interesting question for those of us with less than comprehensive funding.
marcrusc 04-08-2008, 07:04 PM With the accept/decline deadline one week away, where has everyone decided to go? Hopefully this forum hasn't died one week too soon!
AuDTNStudent 04-09-2008, 12:34 PM With the accept/decline deadline one week away, where has everyone decided to go? Hopefully this forum hasn't died one week too soon!
I've given notice to the University of TN that I will be attending there. My decision came down to either Gallaudet or UTK, I went with UTK because of there proximity to my hometown, debt vs. quality, job availablity for my husband and the cost of living there with my family.
Anyone else goning to be in my class?
elcobb 04-09-2008, 06:36 PM I've decided on Chapel Hill! I just have to mail in my deposit and not forget. haha
I have three classmates going to UTK for Au.D. and one for speech, and they are sweet and awesome girls. I know you will enjoy their company :)
How is it going for everyone else?
AuDie 04-09-2008, 08:06 PM I've decided on Chapel Hill! I just have to mail in my deposit and not forget. haha
I have three classmates going to UTK for Au.D. and one for speech, and they are sweet and awesome girls. I know you will enjoy their company :)
How is it going for everyone else?
congrats elcobb on choosing UNC! that was my top choice but i got waitlisted. at this point i'm thinking i might take a year off to do some clinical work (right now i only have research experience) in a speech and hearing clinic to see whether i'd like audiology or speech path better. i'd go into either field for the same reason (helping kids with language delays due to hearing loss/any other reason) but i'm still on the fence.
jade1821 04-09-2008, 09:19 PM Hey! I was wondering if anyone is going to Auburn University for their Au.D? I am looking into housing and wondering if anyone who's accepted is also looking into a place to live around the campus!! Thanks
audiot 04-10-2008, 10:34 AM UIowa, anyone else with Midwest flavor?
marcrusc 04-10-2008, 03:37 PM With four days to go before the deadline, I am down to Vanderbilt vs. University of Memphis. I got a GRA position at Memphis, so it would be free. I am still trying to work out money at Vanderbilt. I guess I will be deciding late Monday night!
AuDTNStudent 04-15-2008, 10:39 AM So today's the day... Where's everyone going?
UTK 1
copy and update with your info.
marcrusc 04-15-2008, 12:44 PM UTK 1
Vanderbilt 1
marcrusc 04-22-2008, 11:55 AM So with over 5000 views on this thread, only two people have actually decided which school they will attend?
audiot 04-22-2008, 07:13 PM So with over 5000 views on this thread, only two people have actually decided which school they will attend?
many have declared their intent throughout the thread.
AudDawg 04-23-2008, 09:07 PM I've decided on Chapel Hill! I just have to mail in my deposit and not forget. haha
I have three classmates going to UTK for Au.D. and one for speech, and they are sweet and awesome girls. I know you will enjoy their company :)
How is it going for everyone else?
Congrats el
I am a student at UNC so if you have any questions before the Fall rolls around, feel free to send me a message and I can give you my email address.
I just came across this website- otherwise I would have answered your questions earlier in the application/decision process. :)
Good luck to everyone making your decisions!
Hello,
Anyone has any opinion about Minnesota and North Texas? Will the rank affect for finding externship sites?:)
Audiology2012 06-04-2008, 04:01 PM The University of Tennessee is identifying which areas to cut to make up for a $21.1 million shortfall. It means sharp cuts on the Knoxville campus, including the elmination of three academic programs.
The Department of Audiology and Speech Pathology; the Industrial and Organizational Psychology graduate program in the College of Business; and the dance program in the College of Education, Health and Human Sciences are all on the chopping block.
Those cuts require approval by the Board of Trustees at the June 19-20 meeting.
There were also cuts by leaving 44 unfilled faculty and staff positions empty and through reductions in planned maintenance, contracted services, travel, and technology and instructional resource purchases.
Cuts at UTK come to $11.1 million in all.
UT President John Petersen said the budget proposal is based on limiting proposed tuition increases to 6 percent. Both the budget and proposed tuition increase are subject to trustee approval.
Cuts occurred across the board:
UT Chattanooga - $2.6 million
UT Martin - $1.9 million
UT Health Science Center - $2.6 million
An additional $3 million was cut from the Space Institute, the Institute for Public Service, the Institute of Agriculture, and system administration.
AuDTNStudent 06-05-2008, 01:29 PM The University of Tennessee is identifying which areas to cut to make up for a $21.1 million shortfall. It means sharp cuts on the Knoxville campus, including the elmination of three academic programs.
The Department of Audiology and Speech Pathology; the Industrial and Organizational Psychology graduate program in the College of Business; and the dance program in the College of Education, Health and Human Sciences are all on the chopping block.
Those cuts require approval by the Board of Trustees at the June 19-20 meeting.
There were also cuts by leaving 44 unfilled faculty and staff positions empty and through reductions in planned maintenance, contracted services, travel, and technology and instructional resource purchases.
Cuts at UTK come to $11.1 million in all.
UT President John Petersen said the budget proposal is based on limiting proposed tuition increases to 6 percent. Both the budget and proposed tuition increase are subject to trustee approval.
Cuts occurred across the board:
UT Chattanooga - $2.6 million
UT Martin - $1.9 million
UT Health Science Center - $2.6 million
An additional $3 million was cut from the Space Institute, the Institute for Public Service, the Institute of Agriculture, and system administration.
:eek: I heard that they will be phasing us out over the next two to three years. BUt it's a four year program for those of us that are class of 2012! :scared: Does anyone out there have any more info on this, or any inside info. I wonder if we will be able to start our degree or if they will just cut us off? I also wonder if they do allow us to start our program will we be able to finish it?
buckeyeaud 06-10-2008, 02:04 PM When I was applying I applied to the following schools.
1. Northwestern
2. Vanderbilt
3. University of Washington
4. University of Maryland
5. University of Texas-Austin
6. University of Texas-Dallas
7. UCSD/San Diego State
8. UNC-Chapel Hill
9. University of Arizona
10. JMU
I got into all of them except for UNC (I was waitlisted). I visited UT-Austin, University of Washington, and I also visited Gallaudet (but decided not to apply afterwards)
As far as cost of living in Chicago... In Evanston (where your classes will be) I would expect to pay around 1000 for a not so nice one bedroom (read: no air conditioning, maybe a laundry room in the building, probably have to pay 100 or so extra a month to park a car, no dishwasher, etc.). Although I would say you can get a two bedroom for not much more maybe 1200-1500. I am also basing these estimates on when I graduated from there which was 2005 so it be worse now.
If you are willing to go farther away from school it gets a little better. Roger's Park is a neighborhood where a lot of graduate students live. It is undergoing gentrification so its kind of patchy, but overall safe enough and only a couple of miles from campus. A one bedroom in there would probably be about 800 or so.
Hope that helps
Hi I am new member. What did you think of University of Texas at Austin?
DrNickels 07-09-2008, 06:13 PM I am in the AuD program at Ohio University and love it. If anyone has any questions feel free to send them my way.
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