View Full Version : Discrimination on Step 2 CS in Atlanta


CountryDoc
05-05-2008, 11:58 AM
Does any white person feel they were discriminated against on Step 2 CS in Atlanta? My buddy and I were the only two white guys taking CS that day in Atlanta and only one or two of our standardized patients were white and we both failed. We have no idea what we did wrong. We did everything the NBME website and First Aid for CS said. It sounds extremely fishy to me. My school also mentioned that there has never been a female from my school that has failed CS (the girls at my school are not that good, trust me). That also sounds fishy. It took forever to register for the exam, forever to get the results back, forever to reschedule the exam, and who knows how long to get these results back. This has majorly screwed up our graduation and residency start dates. I appreciate your feedback. It will help my lawyer in his inverstigation of this matter.

Cashew
05-05-2008, 07:58 PM
My roommate is a white girl and she took hers in Atlanta. She did fine. But, she also took it ages ago-back in the fall. Maybe things have changed?

DarthNeurology
05-05-2008, 08:22 PM
Does any white person feel they were discriminated against on Step 2 CS in Atlanta? My buddy and I were the only two white guys taking CS that day in Atlanta and only one or two of our standardized patients were white and we both failed. We have no idea what we did wrong. We did everything the NBME website and First Aid for CS said. It sounds extremely fishy to me. My school also mentioned that there has never been a female from my school that has failed CS (the girls at my school are not that good, trust me). That also sounds fishy. It took forever to register for the exam, forever to get the results back, forever to reschedule the exam, and who knows how long to get these results back. This has majorly screwed up our graduation and residency start dates. I appreciate your feedback. It will help my lawyer in his inverstigation of this matter.

I passed Step 2 CS and I am a white male, and there were females and even an african american teenagers standardized patient (he was a good actor too as I forgot it was just a test), . . . if anything I felt I had a slight advantage as there were many students from foreign countries like India who could not speak english as well as me. I think it helps to be positive and interested in the patients, if you are negative then it probably doesn't matter what race you are. You seem to be upset it took a long time to register, well , there aren't enough clinical sites, you have to be more positive. It took me a while to get back the results but they were within the correct time frame . . . so I have trouble understanding how someone can be upset when it is stated clearly on the website, sorry, . . .if you failed they probably checked the videos to make sure you failed, you also didn't mention which component you failed, if you failed the note portion then obviously race wasn't a factor. More foreign grads fail than US grads, so overall white guys fail less then non-white guys I would wager as most foreign grads who are male are not white. I doubt you have a legal case though. You just have to deal with failing and figure out how to improve for next time, the only practical solution is to re-take, do you plan to spend three years fighting a lawsuit that you most likely won't win while your chances for residency decrease each year? They would use the video of you in court too, and if you think you did "everything" (not possible in the time frame CS rewards "relative completeness"), think of expert attending witnesses the company will hire to critique everything you did during the examination they WILL grade you worse than what the real graders did to prove that you were incompetent or failed the examination. There are many FMGs/IMGs who didn't fail Step 2 CS who would gladly fill your residency spot while you fight this. . . I thought for sure I failed Step 2CS, but I passed, so maybe you thought for sure you passed i.e. did "everything" FA and NBME said then maybe you were over confident. Have you failed third year rotations or had problems with clinical work? Maybe there is something you can work on. BTW: The vast majority of white people pass Step 2 CS in Atlanta and everywhere else it is adminstered for that matter.