Does anyone happen to know when apps are available on AACOMAS for the new LECOM branch at Seton Hill Univ.? Supposedly students will be attending there for C/O of 2013, but the only info I've read about it is from the Erie newspaper article, as well as from people here on SDN. I've come across nothing on either LECOM's or AACOMAS website about the new branch campus. Anyways do you think it will be similar to the new campuses of last years application cycle (i.e. RVUCOM and PNWUCOM) where these two schools were added to AACOMAS around September? Or is this school just an idea in the works for the moment, and maybe the class of 2014 will be its an inaugral class?

Does anyone know anymore about this new LECOM campus?

http://www.setonhill.edu/o/index.cfm?PID=3&PRID=1596

It says on the website that it should open Fall 2009 (website dated June 2008) but its not an AACOMAS option. Are students from Erie going to be studying there or...?

We were told that they would start their first class fall 2009 and that they will be modeled after LECOM-B so all PBL! They will probably not be an option on AACOMAS until everything is finalized, so like last year's new schools, they will be accepting applications later than normal.

Hmmm, I just looked on the LECOM website and it says that Erie will be expanding their class by 104 students who will attend class at the Seton Hill location, so maybe this is just going to be an extension of the Erie campus? This dosn't sound right, but I'm not there, so maybe someone closer can clear it up!

I would check with the Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine website to see the most up to date information. Not that Kate is starting any rumors, but I think she understands when I say that SDN can "contain garbage" ;)

Love ya Kate!

I would check with the Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine website to see the most up to date information. Not that Kate is starting any rumors, but I think she understands when I say that SDN can "contain garbage" ;)

Love ya Kate!

I know what youre saying. I'm only reiterating what we were told and what was on the LECOM website... which is not much. I don't want to be a garbage man!

But, yes it is in your best interest to get your info from the horses mouth. Just call LECOM-Erie and ask them for more details, i.e. if you apply to Erie do you get to choose if you go to Seton Hill or will Seton Hill have their own application? That's what I'd do. Or, just come to Bradenton! That's the best option!

If it truely is going to be a new campus with a separate admissions, then AACOMAS will notify you via e-mail when they are added, which might not be until the Fall. This was the case last year with SOMA, Touro-NY and DCOM.

Thanks for the responses, I will give LECOM-Erie a call. I am applying to both LECOM campuses so just wanted to see what the options were with it all!

Anyone heard anything about how to apply? Or, is anyone else interested in attending?

Can anyone enlighten us as to why this school would be a good choice or a bad one?

Anyone heard anything about how to apply? Or, is anyone else interested in attending?

Can anyone enlighten us as to why this school would be a good choice or a bad one?

From what I understand, it is going to be an extension of the LECOM - Erie campus, so for now you need to apply to Erie. You can contact them directly for more information.

if you applied to the main campus in erie, then during the interview they will give you a choice of one of the four pathways (ldp, pbl, isp, or pcsp) and the choice to pursue the new seton hill branch, which will be pbl. towards the end of the interview day they will tell you to rank these choices from 1-5 (1 being your most desired pathway and 5 being the one you're least interested in). this is what happened on my interview this past friday, and dr. moore said it will be the procedure taken from now on in the other interviews.

Is LECOM SETON-HILL a new school ?? I saw someone got accepted to. Can anyone give me details on this new school? Thanks

I just visited the school (well, Seton Hill, not the LECOM medical college)this week since I was in Pittsburgh and was curious...

The school is about 30 miles outside of Pittsburgh. It took more like 40-45 mins to get to the school from downtown since I was in the middle of rush hour traffic. The school is in Greensburgh, PA, which seems quaint, but definitely has an Appalachia feel to it. Greensburgh is not a bustling college town, it seemed economically depressed in some areas, but has a decent downtown area and some commerical streets with fast foods and such. To be honest, the drive from Pittsburgh to the college did not include any areas that I would want to live in.

The college itself is gorgeous. It was founded (and probably still run by) Catholic nuns. It is, appropriately, on a giant hill. Definitely a smaller college, but seemed nice.

LECOM is currently admitting students to Seton Hill through its Erie admissions process. You can specify in your interview that you want to go to seton hill. I think their idea is to spin the school off into a branch campus like Bradenton over the next few years.

Thats all I know.

I just visited the school (well, Seton Hill, not the LECOM medical college)this week since I was in Pittsburgh and was curious...

The school is about 30 miles outside of Pittsburgh. It took more like 40-45 mins to get to the school from downtown since I was in the middle of rush hour traffic. The school is in Greensburgh, PA, which seems quaint, but definitely has an Appalachia feel to it. Greensburgh is not a bustling college town, it seemed economically depressed in some areas, but has a decent downtown area and some commerical streets with fast foods and such. To be honest, the drive from Pittsburgh to the college did not include any areas that I would want to live in.

The college itself is gorgeous. It was founded (and probably still run by) Catholic nuns. It is, appropriately, on a giant hill. Definitely a smaller college, but seemed nice.

LECOM is currently admitting students to Seton Hill through its Erie admissions process. You can specify in your interview that you want to go to seton hill. I think their idea is to spin the school off into a branch campus like Bradenton over the next few years.

Thats all I know.


Just to add on it.

Yes they are admitting students through interviews at their Erie campus. Along with ranking the pathway you want (LDP, PBL, ISP, PCP), the Seton Hill campus is added as a fifth option. So you rate them in preference 1-5 and you might end up there.

At the interview they never said if they intended to make the Seton Hill campus have their own app process (like Bradenton) but no one asked either. Seton Hill will have approximately 100 spots there and will be entirely PBL (like Bradenton)..

So, jsut like getting accepted into LDP or PBL at Erie, you can get accepted to Seton Hill off your ranking.

That's about all I can think of off the top of my head.. hope it helps! =)

Thanks for the replies, this really helps!!!

Just to add on it.

Yes they are admitting students through interviews at their Erie campus. Along with ranking the pathway you want (LDP, PBL, ISP, PCP), the Seton Hill campus is added as a fifth option. So you rate them in preference 1-5 and you might end up there.

At the interview they never said if they intended to make the Seton Hill campus have their own app process (like Bradenton) but no one asked either. Seton Hill will have approximately 100 spots there and will be entirely PBL (like Bradenton)..

So, jsut like getting accepted into LDP or PBL at Erie, you can get accepted to Seton Hill off your ranking.

That's about all I can think of off the top of my head.. hope it helps! =)

Will clinical rotations be in the same locations ad Erie and Braedenton? I read that they signed some agreement with new hospitals for Seton Hill, just wondering if hte students will be limited to those new hospitals.

Will clinical rotations be in the same locations ad Erie and Braedenton? I read that they signed some agreement with new hospitals for Seton Hill, just wondering if hte students will be limited to those new hospitals.

They didn't say too much about that either. When we talked about clinical rotations, it was explained with the places most available (PA, OH, MI, and some others) and that you are somewhat separated into groups at the sites.. (i think) I would think that if they are adding new rotation sites @ seton hill it is so students can stay in one area for 4 years if they wanted. then again, i would think that anyone that wanted to could at least try for that spot.. it'd be a good question to ask!

I'm accepted at LECOM Seton Hill. Conemaugh Hospital and the Excela hospitals are the key clinical providers for this campus.

I live near Conemaugh. It is a level 1 trauma center, has a NICU, well equipped (uses robotics in OR), have a human patient simulator and lots of training tools, great hospital. I interned there this summer.

The cost of living in Greensburg is dirt cheap and you won't have to drive through 5 feet of snow. It's pretty mild around here.

Downside is that Seton Hill is an undergraduate institution and there might be a lot of parties around.

Please make sure you really want Seton Hill before you mark that as your #1. You can't change it.

Anyone know what they are doing about the anatomy labs and OPP labs there? During my interview, I thought the guy said there wouldn't be an anatomy lab next year but he mumbled it and he wasn't telling me. I just overheard.

I deferred my admission to LECOM-Erie from last year and will be going to Seton Hill in the fall. I'm from Pittsburgh and am SO glad I will not have to move. Greensburg is surely up in the mountains, but the country around there is beautiful. Most importantly...Pittsburgh is much nicer than Erie. They even clean the snow on the roads around here!
The drive from Pittsburgh is only 30-35 minutes if you are not in traffic and it is mostly interstate except for the part of US 30 you have to drive. It would be easy to live in Pittsburgh or in Monroeville (Exit 6 on the Turnpike) and there are plenty of options with nice neighborhoods that are at least near civilization. :rolleyes:

Seton Hill, like Bradenton, is 100% PBL. They are admitting 116 students and will have 2 buildings on Seton Hill's undergraduate campus.

I was just accepted to LECOM Seton Hill.....anyone else going there?

I just created a Facebook group for LECOM - Seton Hill, if anyone's interested. :) (I'm currently the only one there. :p)

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=47156512637&ref=mf

Anyone know what they are doing about the anatomy labs and OPP labs there? During my interview, I thought the guy said there wouldn't be an anatomy lab next year but he mumbled it and he wasn't telling me. I just overheard.

You won't have anatomy lab! At least not in the traditional sense. It's all 'virtual', meaning you watch videos. I was told by my interveiwer that PBL at Senton is the same thing as PBL at main campus- you don't get the real cadaver lab.

You won't have anatomy lab! At least not in the traditional sense. It's all 'virtual', meaning you watch videos. I was told by my interveiwer that PBL at Senton is the same thing as PBL at main campus- you don't get the real cadaver lab.

hmm virtual anatomy lab? i wonder how effective that is at learning anatomy. Does anyone have any experience with the these anatomy videos in the PBL learning pathway? IMHO I'm not sure how well that would work, I'd like to see things with my own two eyes, a video can only take you so far. Just my own 2 cents. But what do I know, doctors designed this pathway so it must be somewhat successful! lol

The LECOM-Erie students seem to have received their matriculation packets. Have any Seton Hill students received theirs? I haven't.

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Hey I was wondering if anyone had been accepted to only Seton Hill. I had ranked LDP-Erie as 1st choice and PBL-Seton Hill as second but I was accepted to Seton Hill and received no news of LECOM-Erie. Did this happen to anyone else?

Does anyone know if they are still interviewing for Seton Hill? How many they have accepted? How many they will take? Love to hear back. Thank you

BlueMercury, i know it is confusing, but since LECOM Seton Hill is a satellite campus of LECOM Erie, that IS your answer from LECOM Erie...you were placed at the Seton Hill location. No student will be accepted to both campuses. You are placed in one pathway at one location. My first choice was Erie PBL with Seton Hill as my second choice and I got placed at Seton Hill as well. I called and they allowed me to sit on a waiting list for PBL-Erie. Call admissions and ask if you can sit on a waiting list for LDP-Erie. It's worth a try! Best of luck!

meghalo05, because LECOM Seton Hill is a satellite campus of LECOM Erie, you must send your application to LECOM Erie as well as interview at LECOM Erie's campus. All of the Seton Hill admissions decisions and processes are done through there. So if you put in an application to LECOM Erie, give admissions a call and see if they are still OFFERING interviews. I know they are still conducting interviews because I have a friend who has an interview set up there in the beginning of March. Best of luck!

BlueMercury, i know it is confusing, but since LECOM Seton Hill is a satellite campus of LECOM Erie, that IS your answer from LECOM Erie...you were placed at the Seton Hill location. No student will be accepted to both campuses. You are placed in one pathway at one location. My first choice was Erie PBL with Seton Hill as my second choice and I got placed at Seton Hill as well. I called and they allowed me to sit on a waiting list for PBL-Erie. Call admissions and ask if you can sit on a waiting list for LDP-Erie. It's worth a try! Best of luck!

meghalo05, because LECOM Seton Hill is a satellite campus of LECOM Erie, you must send your application to LECOM Erie as well as interview at LECOM Erie's campus. All of the Seton Hill admissions decisions and processes are done through there. So if you put in an application to LECOM Erie, give admissions a call and see if they are still OFFERING interviews. I know they are still conducting interviews because I have a friend who has an interview set up there in the beginning of March. Best of luck!

I called it turns out LECOM-Erie is full, PBL and LDP. Hence why I got Seton Hill. I am on the waitlist for Erie. Seton Hill will actually be a new branch like Bradenton, it is just the first year class will be accepted through Erie.

wow, LDP has the most seats of all the pathways, so if it is full too then LECOM Erie has almost filled all of its seats! that's sad because my friend i spoke of before just interviewed this week and i know she wanted erie campus. :( well, good luck with the erie waiting list. i'm hanging in there with you!

I'm in, LECOM Seton Hall class of 2013. :D

I haven't been to Greensburg, PA before. Does anyone know if there are any nice apartments close to Seton Hall University?

I'm in, LECOM Seton Hall class of 2013. :D

I haven't been to Greensburg, PA before. Does anyone know if there are any nice apartments close to Seton Hall University?

When you send in your deposit they'll send you an email with 2 attachments: the matriculation packet and then also a PDF with apartments in the area.

When you send in your deposit they'll send you an email with 2 attachments: the matriculation packet and then also a PDF with apartments in the area.

Oh, good to know. Thanks. :)

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So I interviewed like 10 days ago...just checked my LECOM Admissions Portal and it says the committee has made a decision and I will be notified:

LECOM-Erie within 10 days

LECOM-Seton Hill within 30 days

Any ideas on what that implies? I just read above that all the seats at Erie are supposedly full, but I don't know if that is accurate or not. I just don't see why the times are so different, especially when the decision comes from the same people.

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BlueMercury, i know it is confusing, but since LECOM Seton Hill is a satellite campus of LECOM Erie, that IS your answer from LECOM Erie...you were placed at the Seton Hill location. No student will be accepted to both campuses. You are placed in one pathway at one location. My first choice was Erie PBL with Seton Hill as my second choice and I got placed at Seton Hill as well. I called and they allowed me to sit on a waiting list for PBL-Erie. Call admissions and ask if you can sit on a waiting list for LDP-Erie. It's worth a try! Best of luck!

meghalo05, because LECOM Seton Hill is a satellite campus of LECOM Erie, you must send your application to LECOM Erie as well as interview at LECOM Erie's campus. All of the Seton Hill admissions decisions and processes are done through there. So if you put in an application to LECOM Erie, give admissions a call and see if they are still OFFERING interviews. I know they are still conducting interviews because I have a friend who has an interview set up there in the beginning of March. Best of luck!


if you get on the waiting list for erie will you lose your spot at seton hill? also is anyone a little nervous about being the first class at seton hill?...or do you all think seton hill will have similar results to the bradenton campus?

So I interviewed like 10 days ago...just checked my LECOM Admissions Portal and it says the committee has made a decision and I will be notified:

LECOM-Erie within 10 days

LECOM-Seton Hill within 30 days

Any ideas on what that implies? I just read above that all the seats at Erie are supposedly full, but I don't know if that is accurate or not. I just don't see why the times are so different, especially when the decision comes from the same people.


I interviewed 2/26 and have received this message as well... did everyone who received this on their portal get accepted? did anyone who got this get waitlisted?

* received my acceptance today 3/09/09*

* received my acceptance today 3/09/09*

Congrats! Did you get in to Erie or Seton Hill?

I'm at work now, and now pretty anxious to go home and check my mail...

Congrats! Did you get in to Erie or Seton Hill?

I'm at work now, and now pretty anxious to go home and check my mail...

I got accepted to Seton Hill, which was my first choice. When did you interview?

I got accepted to Seton Hill, which was my first choice. When did you interview?

I just got my acceptance letter to Seton Hill today (I interviewed the 27th of feb)....


...but it's contingent on me getting a C or better in inorganic chem. I guess my C- that I got in intro chem 6 years ago is not cutting it...even with a biomedical engineering degree. They want it done by July 1st, too, which seems impossible to me. I need to call admissions.

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I just got my acceptance letter to Seton Hill today (I interviewed the 27th of feb)....


...but it's contingent on me getting a C or better in inorganic chem. I guess my C- that I got in intro chem 6 years ago is not cutting it...even with a biomedical engineering degree. They want it done by July 1st, too, which seems impossible to me. I need to call admissions.


CONGRATS!! Where did you see that LECOM requires you have chem done by July 1st? I have to take 2 more credits of behavior science and my letter doesn't say a date to done by, just before fall starts. Anyway most community colleges have classes from start of may thru end of june.

It says July 1st right on one of the sheets of paper they sent me with my letter; however, I talked to Amy in admissions this morning and 1.) She is going to see if they will reconsider this requirement, 2.) They are apparently more flexible about the date than they led on, which is good because I can only finish by July 7 at the earliest down here.

Even though it's doubtful, i'm hoping they'll waive this requirement. I've taken so many harder biomedical engineering classes than intro chem and did above their average on the physical sciences of the MCAT. just crossing my fingers, because three credits ain't cheap!

Thanks for all the support guys, hopefully I'll be seeing you in the fall...

It says July 1st right on one of the sheets of paper they sent me with my letter; however, I talked to Amy in admissions this morning and 1.) She is going to see if they will reconsider this requirement, 2.) They are apparently more flexible about the date than they led on, which is good because I can only finish by July 7 at the earliest down here.

Even though it's doubtful, i'm hoping they'll waive this requirement. I've taken so many harder biomedical engineering classes than intro chem and did above their average on the physical sciences of the MCAT. just crossing my fingers, because three credits ain't cheap!

Thanks for all the support guys, hopefully I'll be seeing you in the fall...


I noticed that their website only mentions the requirement of completing eight hours of inorganic chem and doesn't specify a minimum grade of C like some other schools. But if it's their policy, it's their policy. I can understand how they'd be hesitant to go down the path of waiving requirements in special cases. Sometimes a policy needs to just be a firm policy to maintain basic standards. The boards aren't going to care if you came really close to passing one part of your boards but did really well in other harder areas, you know? I do think telling you now about a deadline of 7/1 kind of stinks, though. Not too many schools have a schedule in which a class like that would begin in March and end in June, so I feel your pain on that. They may not waive the C requirement but I do think they should work with you on that deadline...

So I got the list of apartment complexes by email today. Does anyone know where they plan to stay?

I'm hoping to find something nice, but not too far away from school. It would also be cool to be close to some of my soon to be classmates (and away from any undergrad students if that's an issue).

So I got the list of apartment complexes by email today. Does anyone know where they plan to stay?

I'm hoping to find something nice, but not too far away from school. It would also be cool to be close to some of my soon to be classmates (and away from any undergrad students if that's an issue).

If you join the Seton Hill Facebook group, a discussion about housing and finding roommates has been going on. :)

So I got the list of apartment complexes by email today. Does anyone know where they plan to stay?

I'm hoping to find something nice, but not too far away from school. It would also be cool to be close to some of my soon to be classmates (and away from any undergrad students if that's an issue).

I don't think that undergrads will be a big issue in Greensburg. Seton Hill is a small school, and from what I've read, many of the students live either on-campus or commute from home. I second the motion about the Facebook group.

Anyone with a different message than "LECOM-Erie within 10 days, LECOM-Seton Hill within 30 days" get in? I got a different message...I'm getting nervous...

Anyone with a different message than "LECOM-Erie within 10 days, LECOM-Seton Hill within 30 days" get in? I got a different message...I'm getting nervous...

Is "Seton Hill" listed on you status page?

oh yeah i see it...nvm...ok i feel better now lol

does anyone know how to login to the lecom status page...the admissions people said that that my status has been updated and to check to make sure everything is ok online...but i cant seem to find it. I tried logging in to the candidate portal but that's not showing my status as a matriculated student...

does anyone know how to login to the lecom status page...the admissions people said that that my status has been updated and to check to make sure everything is ok online...but i cant seem to find it. I tried logging in to the candidate portal but that's not showing my status as a matriculated student...

http://portal.lecom.edu/ics

Have you tried going to the Admissions tab?
On the left-hand side, you can click on Required Letters and Credits > View Folder items to see which documents you still need to turn in. Just be sure to use the drop-down menu next to Program to access your status for the right campus.

You can also go to Admissions Status to check if they've received your deposit. Mine says... "Congratuations, on your acceptance to LECOM at Seton Hill. We have received your matriculation fee and agreement. You will be contacted over the next few months."

Hope that helps!

http://portal.lecom.edu/ics

Have you tried going to the Admissions tab?
On the left-hand side, you can click on Required Letters and Credits > View Folder items to see which documents you still need to turn in. Just be sure to use the drop-down menu next to Program to access your status for the right campus.

You can also go to Admissions Status to check if they've received your deposit. Mine says... "Congratuations, on your acceptance to LECOM at Seton Hill. We have received your matriculation fee and agreement. You will be contacted over the next few months."

Hope that helps!

yea that helped a lot actually...thanks for walking me through that!! :)

so i still have some reservations about the whole pbl pathway thing. in comparison to normal courses how much info do you really cover? another thing that i find intimidating is perhaps not having an instructor that is an expert in an area i have a question in, as one would have to be a superhuman to know all about biochem/embryology/path/phys/etc. I'm not sure how confident I am in the pbl pathway is all, any ideas/advice?

I was considering LECOM-Seton Hill because it is very close to home. However, I was concerned about PBL too. I think PBL at Erie would be fine, but my thoughts were that LECOM-seton hill won't have all the profs available at to answer questions in every topic. Some of the profs are coming from Erie to facilitate PBL, and then they leave. This is how I understood what Irv Freeman told me.

I was considering LECOM-Seton Hill because it is very close to home. However, I was concerned about PBL too. I think PBL at Erie would be fine, but my thoughts were that LECOM-seton hill won't have all the profs available at to answer questions in every topic. Some of the profs are coming from Erie to facilitate PBL, and then they leave. This is how I understood what Irv Freeman told me.

I know they're hiring both full and part time faculty. I'm thinking the part time profs are the ones coming from Erie but there will be full time ones there, I think 13 full time. Erie is about 2.5 hours away from Greensburg so there's no way they would be the full time profs. So I'm sure there will be profs there to answer questions in the specific topics and to teach the classes like Anatomy and mini courses like there are at Bradenton.

I haven't received a financial aid packet yet. Has anyone received information about financial aid?

I haven't received a financial aid packet yet. Has anyone received information about financial aid?

Yeah, it's sent via email. If you want to have a look at it before LECOM sends it to you, PM me with your email address, and I'll send it to you.

Yeah, it's sent via email. If you want to have a look at it before LECOM sends it to you, PM me with your email address, and I'll send it to you.

When did they send it to you? I got the matriculation packet almost 2 weeks ago but nothing on financial aid yet.

When did they send it to you? I got the matriculation packet almost 2 weeks ago but nothing on financial aid yet.

I received my matriculation packet on 2/19 and received the financial aid packet on 2/23. If you want, you can call Bonnie Crilley at the Office of Financial Aid at (814) 866-6641.

I received my matriculation packet on 2/19 and received the financial aid packet on 2/23. If you want, you can call Bonnie Crilley at the Office of Financial Aid at (814) 866-6641.


Thanks for your help!

I got my acceptance letter to Seton Hill last week. I also interviewed at PCOM last week. Since I wouldn't hear from PCOM in time for LECOM's fee deadline, I sent the money in. I really don't know which I'd rather go to. I love the idea of PBL buuutttt... I'm really scared to be in the first class. :eek:

So, here's everything I know about SH:

We'll have the first floor of Lynch Hall which includes an auditorium for lectures and 12 rooms for PBL sessions. There will also be a room (or two?) in the library for labs. They updated the library to accomodate us and we'll have access to everything that Erie students do. There are pictures available at lecom.edu in the article about the board of trustees that went to see the campus. There will be 13 full time profs and 4 part-time.

The campus is quite far from anywhere that we would be living, so a car is necessary. One thing I don't know is if they have a shuttle that goes from town to campus. Anyone familiar with the area know??

I asked Linda Linville if there's anything we should be afraid of being the first class and having no upperclassmen. She said the faculty has discussed this issue and they plan to be more available to us being that we'll have lots of questions and no upperclassmen to ask.

According to Seton Hill's website (which I think would be a good thing for you all to look at), they are a proud Catholic school with a strong art program. I'm not super religious, or really at all, so I don't know how I'll fit in there. Really, it seems like a strange fit; science majors on a religious campus (not saying that we're all atheists, but science and religion don't always go hand in hand). The town of Greensburg also seems to be very chill and artsy. They have lots of theaters and musical performances in town. There's also lots of little shops, eateries, bars/clubs, and coffee houses. Oh, and Linda also told me that the average rent in town is about $600/month.

Does anyone familiar w/ SH and Greensburg have any useful info? Such as if there's a bus, where are they planning to house all of us, when will it be too late to get housing, etc....

I really want to love this idea, but I'm so scared of being in the first class. Pretty much everything else is a perfect fit for me.

Well anyway, any info would be helpful. Oh, and Happy St. Patty's day!!!!

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i'm going to interview for seton hill here soon and have a question about a matriculation fee. once you are accepted how long do you have to send in your deposit. just wondering. thanks.

you have about 10-12 days to send the deposit...I got my acceptance yesterday and the deposit is due on the 27th

I got my acceptance letter to Seton Hill last week. I also interviewed at PCOM last week. Since I wouldn't hear from PCOM in time for LECOM's fee deadline, I sent the money in. I really don't know which I'd rather go to. I love the idea of PBL buuutttt... I'm really scared to be in the first class. :eek:

So, here's everything I know about SH:

We'll have the first floor of Lynch Hall which includes an auditorium for lectures and 12 rooms for PBL sessions. There will also be a room (or two?) in the library for labs. They updated the library to accomodate us and we'll have access to everything that Erie students do. There are pictures available at lecom.edu in the article about the board of trustees that went to see the campus. There will be 13 full time profs and 4 part-time.

The campus is quite far from anywhere that we would be living, so a car is necessary. One thing I don't know is if they have a shuttle that goes from town to campus. Anyone familiar with the area know??

I asked Linda Linville if there's anything we should be afraid of being the first class and having no upperclassmen. She said the faculty has discussed this issue and they plan to be more available to us being that we'll have lots of questions and no upperclassmen to ask.

According to Seton Hill's website (which I think would be a good thing for you all to look at), they are a proud Catholic school with a strong art program. I'm not super religious, or really at all, so I don't know how I'll fit in there. Really, it seems like a strange fit; science majors on a religious campus (not saying that we're all atheists, but science and religion don't always go hand in hand). The town of Greensburg also seems to be very chill and artsy. They have lots of theaters and musical performances in town. There's also lots of little shops, eateries, bars/clubs, and coffee houses. Oh, and Linda also told me that the average rent in town is about $600/month.

Does anyone familiar w/ SH and Greensburg have any useful info? Such as if there's a bus, where are they planning to house all of us, when will it be too late to get housing, etc....

I really want to love this idea, but I'm so scared of being in the first class. Pretty much everything else is a perfect fit for me.

Well anyway, any info would be helpful. Oh, and Happy St. Patty's day!!!!




Hi Lady Jane,

I wouldn't be too worried about being the first PBL class because LECOM has been having PBL at Erie for quite some time now, so the curriculum is identical to what is and has been taught at Erie PBL.

I can't answer much about a shuttle, i currently live in Pittsburgh and plan on commuting from there (from the actual city its about 45 mins, from one of the suburbs its about 35). I have been seeing a lot of listings on Craigslist, and since it is a lot of undergrad i would say try to get housing asap.. i know here in pittsburgh the landlords have been listing for June-Aug move in dates since Feb.

Seton Hill is suppose to havea really pretty campus and yes is a jesuit school, but i wouldn't be all that concerned since you really wont be a Seton Hill student, therefore will not be required to take the religous studies classes with the undergrads. But i get why you would be a little put off by that.

About not having upperclassmen, i was told that even for our clinical rotations, we are lumped together with the Erie campus, so again, i think you/we will have no problem having access to speak to 3 and 4 years up at Erie. Additionally, i was told that we have full access to Erie and the profs up and cadaver lab there as well.

I don't know if i really helped you out at all (so sorry if i didn't!), all i know is that i have 3 friends who have graduated from LECOM, (one of them was the very first class of PBL at Erie) and one is in a cardio fellowship in jersey, and the other two are in family medicine and couldn't not have been happier with their education.

If you have any questions about wanting to commute from pittsburgh or one of the suburbs there please feel free to PM me!

Hope i helped a bit! :)

anyone know if it's possible to go look around the facilites at seton hill? also, how is anatomy going to be taugh, videos? what about other labs, will we not have them there?

You can go and look around the campus, email either Irv Freeman, or Becky Sterling (his assistant) if you would like a guided one and to give them a heads up that you would like to come out and visit. If you would like their emails PM me!

We will not have a cadaver lab, apparently it is going to be taught through videos, plasticized (sp?) models, and VR. All the other labs are the same as far as i have heard...

That's all i know! anyone else??

anyone know if it's possible to go look around the facilites at seton hill? also, how is anatomy going to be taugh, videos? what about other labs, will we not have them there?

I would think that everything will be taught the same way it is in Erie, so that means videos for anatomy. And, as I said in my super long post a few up, there will be one or two rooms in the library used for our labs.

Nerdsmakegraves,

Thanks for the info, but I'm still curious about if there's a shuttle. Does anyone know??

and it's not so much I'm worried about being in the first PBL class, rather I'm worried about being in the first class, period. I'm just worried about all the things associated w/ a new school, like new staff (I'm foreseeing messed up financial aid paperwork or something), new faculty (because I don't know where they're coming from or if they've ever done PBL), and no upperclassmen to tell me which profs are great and which are not so much. I know Bradenton did very well their first year, so maybe that should reassure me, but I'm still just nervous about it.

Can someone just reassure me that this article is misleading? At my Erie interview we discussed at length all the freedoms we would have to arrange 3rd/4th year clinicals at sites in different regions and states. It didn't occur to me to ask specifically if Seton Hill would share in those options as far as all the affiliated hospitals. Now I found this newspaper article about the Seton Hill branch that says:

In their first two years, students will study at Lynch Hall and the Reeves Memorial Library at Seton Hill. They'll spend the last two years at Excela-run hospitals in Greensburg, Latrobe, Mt. Pleasant and Jeannette.

Please tell me we aren't required to only rotate at those four hospitals near Pittsburgh! We'll still get all the options that Erie's students get for core clerkships, right? I just assumed we'd share the same list they had...

So I actually asked that direct question during my interview then to Irv Freeman the dean of LECOM-SH about a month ago, and they both said we are grouped in with Erie and have the same exact options as the Erie students. I really really really really really really (okay i think you get the point ;)) hope that they haven't changed that, but i haven't heard anything to say that they have.

I know Dr. Freeman said that they added the hospitals in Greensburg for more rotation options and for the people who would like to stay there for all four years but we are not REQUIRED to be there. I mean, there is a certain amount of LECOM students who have to rotate there, just as there is at any site, but you get my drift! Also, with taking on Seton Hill they had to get approval from AOA, therefore, also having to up the number of rotation sites.

Has anyone heard anything else on this??

I live in the Greensburg area and work for the EMS service that services Greensburg and surrounding areas (huge EMS service, a freaking monopoly) so needless to say, I am very familiar with the area, hot spots, apartments, housing, places to avoid, and local medical centers.

Please feel free to ask any questions.

dxu

p.s. I'm hoping to be attending LECOM-SH in 2011

So I actually asked that direct question during my interview then to Irv Freeman the dean of LECOM-SH about a month ago, and they both said we are grouped in with Erie and have the same exact options as the Erie students. I really really really really really really (okay i think you get the point ;)) hope that they haven't changed that, but i haven't heard anything to say that they have.

I know Dr. Freeman said that they added the hospitals in Greensburg for more rotation options and for the people who would like to stay there for all four years but we are not REQUIRED to be there. I mean, there is a certain amount of LECOM students who have to rotate there, just as there is at any site, but you get my drift! Also, with taking on Seton Hill they had to get approval from AOA, therefore, also having to up the number of rotation sites.

Has anyone heard anything else on this??

Okay, thanks, that's reassuring. I tried to call around today at LECOM to get direct answers but I kept getting voicemails. I'm literally set to mail in my deposit tomorrow and then I read this little nugget and seriously freaked out. One of the most important things that led me to accept LECOM and withdraw other acceptances was the chance to return home 3rd/4th year and do rotations in the Philly/Jersey/NYC region. If I thought I was going to be tied to Pittsburgh for all four years that might change my mind, but I'm okay with doing 20 months of class time out there.

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My wife just spoke with a woman about student housing for LECOM-Seton Hill students. The lady is renovating a place in Jeannette which is only a few minutes away from campus. I guess there are Seton Hill students there now but as of this summer it will be open to LECOM medical students only. She said there's about 10 rooms with bathrooms, a common area: living room with couches, T.V. and pool table, study room, kitchen, free off street parking with all included utilities-cable, internet, water,electric, gas,etc... She said the bus line passes right by and goes into Greensburg. Thought this may be option for some- Contact info: Fran 412-601-1192

Jeanette is less than 10 mins to campus. Please be careful on location in this area. 'Nuff said.

She said it's less than 5 minutes from the campus and on the north side.

My wife just spoke with a woman about student housing for LECOM-Seton Hill students. The lady is renovating a place in Jeannette which is only a few minutes away from campus. I guess there are Seton Hill students there now but as of this summer it will be open to LECOM medical students only. She said there's about 10 rooms with bathrooms, a common area: living room with couches, T.V. and pool table, study room, kitchen, free off street parking with all included utilities-cable, internet, water,electric, gas,etc... She said the bus line passes right by and goes into Greensburg. Thought this may be option for some- Contact info: Fran 412-601-1192

Do you know the name of this place?

I'm not sure if it has a name.

http://www.loftson2ndstreet.com/index.html

no pets

that's not it, those are different.

Hey Guys,

I recently interviewed at LECOM last Friday and today I checked my portal to find that Seton Hill was added to the list of programs under the Admissions Status page. For those who received the same update, what does this mean? I'm SO nervous!!!

Any info would be great. Congrats to everyone who's been accepted. To everyone else, I wish you all the best of luck.

Take care and best wishes.

Hey Guys,

I recently interviewed at LECOM last Friday and today I checked my portal to find that Seton Hill was added to the list of programs under the Admissions Status page. For those who received the same update, what does this mean? I'm SO nervous!!!

Any info would be great. Congrats to everyone who's been accepted. To everyone else, I wish you all the best of luck.

Take care and best wishes.

From everyone I've talked to and myself ... we were accepted. I don't want to get your hopes up though but good luck

Hey Guys,

I recently interviewed at LECOM last Friday and today I checked my portal to find that Seton Hill was added to the list of programs under the Admissions Status page. For those who received the same update, what does this mean? I'm SO nervous!!!

Any info would be great. Congrats to everyone who's been accepted. To everyone else, I wish you all the best of luck.

Take care and best wishes.

Is your first name Rudy by chance? I carried you off the field at Notre Dame stadium a few years back.

Is your first name Rudy by chance? I carried you off the field at Notre Dame stadium a few years back.

Haha. Someone has finally got my movie reference. No, unfortunately my first name is not Rudy; however, I am a senior at ND and I guess you can say I'm the underdog when it comes to applying to medical school. How about you? I take it you're from Philly? You a domer by any chance too?

Hey everyone, I interviewed last monday (16th) and my account on the LECOM portal also gave me the messages that a decision had been made and Seton Hill added. I figure however, that this should be the expected behavior for both the Waitlistee's and Acceptee's so I'm trying to withhold any happiness for now... and I'm still a nervous wreck. I've so far been watlisted at two other schools, and accepted to none, so I'm a bit on edge.

Also I wanted to just give my thoughts about the common worries:

1. In regards to being the first Class at Seton Hill Ever... I think this would be a daunting experience for any class. However, I think that being LECOM most of our fears can and should be set aside... LECOM has established itself as one of the largest medical schools in the country, and has seen success at both its main campus and more importantly the Bradenton campus, as shown by test scores and match lists... I would feel that we are far better off going to a satelite campus of an established school than even say the University of Central Florida which is starting a brand new school this year, with no prior "experience". Someone mentioned lost forms and financial aid disasters.... all that stuff is really out of our hands, and maybe I'm a bit trusting but I do trust that LECOM will hire a competent staff... Just because this is a new location does not mean that the people hired are going to be fresh out of college.

2. About PBL... Perhaps similiar (or not) to a lot of you, I interviewed at the Bradenton campus and was quite impressed. At bradenton it is mandatory for you to sit in on an hour of PBL... I realize that I may have been lucky to have a good group. Regardless though, my group impressed me with their breadth of knowledge and teamwork and made me a believer... PBL in all sorts of forms is very common in many medical schools these days, so they must be on to something, don't you think? Not to mention that the faculty in Bradenton claimed that the students in PBL in Erie have been doing better on boards than the lecture and independent students since the ciriculum has been introduced... Which is exactly why PBL is the cirriculum of choice at both Seton Hill and Bradenton and not lecture... Good Test scores, competetive match lists, that's enough proof for me. However, PBL is a very student driven form of study so in a large part I suppose it is going to be up to us.

3. About the lack of a cadaver lab... ehh... I don't like this so much. However I should clarify that it is because doing disections has always been my sort of thing and therefore this is more of a selfish reason. I think a cadaver lab would be cool, plain and simple. However, the question "Do you think anatomy can be properly learned without a cadaver lab?" was asked to the doc who was giving us the tour at my Erie interview and the answer was a resounding "Absolutely." He stated, that as for those interested in surgery and thinking that a cadaver lab in medical school would be helpful, that it should be noted that the dead tissue of the cadavers don't look anything like the real live thing anyhow, and a virtual form of study would be just as good if not better. He also felt that the days of cadaver labs in all schools is numbered.

This post has gotten a bit out of hand and I can't really think of anymore "issues" anyhow... but I hope to be joining all the official Seton Hill Acceptees shortly!

anyone have an interview coming up? i'm going april 17th. seems a little late, would i be interviewing for a waitlist?

Do you guys know if we're going to be in Greensburg for all 4 years? I know of course that there will be rotations (are those usually a couple of weeks to a month long?), but we will have to have residence in Greensburg for 4 years, right?

I just visited the city for the first time this weekend and just traveled home. I'm not from Pennsylvania, so I enjoyed seeing the hilly terrain. Seems like it's going to be a nice place to spend time studying in over the next number of years.

As i understand it, we will be in Greensburg for the first 2 years, then for clinicals we go where we are assigned.

You will be asked to select the location or the month you would like off (only get one or the other) where you would like to complete your clinicals, so if you really like Greensburg you can stay there as LECOM SH picked up some hospitals out there for us to rotate through. Otherwise you can/will move to where your clinicals are.

Hope that helped!

As i understand it, we will be in Greensburg for the first 2 years, then for clinicals we go where we are assigned.

You will be asked to select the location or the month you would like off (only get one or the other) where you would like to complete your clinicals, so if you really like Greensburg you can stay there as LECOM SH picked up some hospitals out there for us to rotate through. Otherwise you can/will move to where your clinicals are.

Hope that helped!

On the Lecom website, it says that you do 12 rotations a year (3rd and 4th year), each being 4 weeks long. You think that those rotations for the year would be in the same city or would we be moving around to lots of different places?

There is always a chance that you will have to move around .... and i have heard people having to do one or two rotations not within their requested city....

Also, if you want to do any audition rotations at hospitals that you want to apply for residency those will be away (assuming you do not want to stay in the pittsburgh/greensburg area).

Haha. Someone has finally got my movie reference. No, unfortunately my first name is not Rudy; however, I am a senior at ND and I guess you can say I'm the underdog when it comes to applying to medical school. How about you? I take it you're from Philly? You a domer by any chance too?


I just watched that movie today on AMC, haha. I didn't realize that's how it's spelled.

anyone have an interview coming up? i'm going april 17th. seems a little late, would i be interviewing for a waitlist?


I've read on here that PBL and LDP at Erie are full, I don't know if ISP at Erie is full. Also, I'm pretty sure that PBL at Seton Hill is not full.

Does anyone know when we need to have our transcripts sent in by?

Does anyone know when we need to have our transcripts sent in by?

It will tell you the date in your matriculation packet. Mine was April 30th, but other people have different dates.

wait so you have to send in your transcripts even if you still haven't finished your semester?

wait so you have to send in your transcripts even if you still haven't finished your semester?


That's a good question. That didn't apply to me because I graduated in December. Buttttt....it says it wants a final transcript, so maybe you have to disregard the due date for the transcript?

I would ask Amy Rowe or Linda Linville to be sure.

Got my acceptance today!!!! Do you guys know what kinda stuff that will be going into the renovated buildings?...Will SH be getting a sweet OMM room with moving tables like LECOM-B? Clinical rooms? histo/anatomy labs? Research labs?Will we have access to SH's rec? Anyone went in to take a look? Any info is good info.:D

wait so you have to send in your transcripts even if you still haven't finished your semester?

No. You send them in when you're done and graduated.

Anyone have any idea if there's going to be a white coat ceremony? If there is one, I assume it would be during the first week?.....

Hey does anyone know if we'll have simulated patients, both the robots and the actors at Seton Hill?

So I actually asked the Seton Hill VP that question... he wasn't sure at the time (Feb) if we would have sim men (robot) ... didn't sound like we would - unless someone has heard anything new regarding that.

About the white coat, i haven't heard any news if and when the ceremony would be.

I think the best bet is to email Dr. Freeman and get the most up to date info ... he is really good about answering questions and is prompt responding.

After some research, it looks like the white coat ceremony for the class of 2012 was held this past January 10th of 2009, so I assume ours will be in January of 2010.

I'm surprised. I thought it would be at the beginning of the school year...

I'm surprised. I thought it would be at the beginning of the school year...


Yeah me too, but maybe they allow a semester for ppl to drop out or come in late or whatever.

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I actually am not sure about that. I got accepted and put down my initial deposit but am seriously re-thinking this school because of it's non-traditional teaching format.

Did anyone stay for the PBL demo offered at the end of the interview day? I had to leave early to catch a flight. Can someone give me some insight into the PBL format if we have dissection based anatomy, and if not, what way we will be taught anatomy?

I stayed for the session. I really enjoyed it. It is alot more structured that you think. What they do is present you with a case. Then everyone gets a book and looks up the answers to the question we ask. For instance, you are presented with a 42 year old male presenting with chest pain. You learn how to take a history and physical and ask questions to get to know the patient and find out more info. Then you request tests. You look up the tests in your books and write the page numbers down on the board. You continue to do this for everything throughout the session. You also look up the physiology of what can cause chest pain. Once the session is over, the group picks out 150 or so pages, from the pages written on the board, and that is what you need to read and be responsible for the next meeting. I hope this helps if u have more questions just ask. :)

have any of you gone and seen the facilities they have at seton hill?

I'll be making a trip out there May 4-5, I'll let you know! :)

I actually am not sure about that. I got accepted and put down my initial deposit but am seriously re-thinking this school because of it's non-traditional teaching format.

Did anyone stay for the PBL demo offered at the end of the interview day? I had to leave early to catch a flight. Can someone give me some insight into the PBL format if we have dissection based anatomy, and if not, what way we will be taught anatomy?

Do a search on here and go back through some of the threads dealing with PBL..... but if you didn't get a handle on it during the interview make SURE that you at least have a good understanding of what it is and what it entails.

I'm in Bradenton so I'm not sure what all is planned for Seton Hill, but I would assume it would be structured similar to here.

Not that's a leaps and bounds better or worse than lecture based, it's just different and you need to make sure that would be happy learning that way, it requires a lot of work on your part but it can work as evidenced here for the past few years. If it works for then you'll do fine and learn a lot, if not then you may be miserable in that type of curriculum.

Does anybody have an idea how full the Seton Hill-PBL is. I'm interviewing this week and am assuming its for the waitlist....but I'm not giving up hope

i visited seton hill about a week ago and met with the vp irv freeman. i asked him how many spots were open. he said that as of 4-16 he had received 102 deposits for 112 seats.

about the sim man, do they have those at lecom erie?

any idea when they will stop interviewing....i've heard of people interviewing up until the 24th but not after so far

To people who have visited Seton Hill. What did you think of it?

any idea when they will stop interviewing....i've heard of people interviewing up until the 24th but not after so far

I just interviewed on the 27th and it seemed like this might have been the last week.

seton hill is setup for pbl. that being said it isn't as big as the erie campus by a long shot. it wasn't completely finished when i was there. it is the bottom floor of a building at seton hill. it was rennovated to have faculty offices on the perimeter and something like 6 ish pbl rooms in the center. um...as for auditorium space on the floor above this one they will be using one of seton hills auditoriums. i think that seton hill will still hold classes in the auditorium when lecom isn't. the library is in a different building just across the street as is the omm lab.

If you attend Seton Hill will you do rotations in the four hospitals related to the Excela Health System. Would your rotation only be in Pa.

I visited campus on May 5th and Irv said they were still interviewing and not all the spots are filled. I don't really have anything new to report that someone else hasn't already, but if anyone has any specific questions, please feel free to ask. :D

Will Seton Hill admissions always go through Erie or they get their own admissions?

when interviewing at LECOM are you also interviewing for Seton Hill

Will Seton Hill admissions always go through Erie or they get their own admissions?

when i was there i asked the vice president of seton hill that. he was unsure as it would require them to get their own admissions faculty and a bit more staff. as of now seton hill is technically lecom-erie. they added more seats to the erie campus, but are hosting them in greensburg. i think that may be one reason why pbl in erie won't be using cadavers this year. it is becaue the curriculum at seton hill has to be the same as that in erie.

when you interview at erie you are interviewing for lecom-erie and lecom-seton hill. they ask you to rank (LDP, PBL-Erie, ISP, PCSP, PBL-Seton Hill) in the order you prefer at the the end of the day.

oh, and i'm pretty sure i will be opening up an LDP seat for you all at the beginning of the week.

Will Seton Hill admissions always go through Erie or they get their own admissions?

I asked that question to the admissions director and she gave me a coy little smile. She said they don't know where teh school is going. I think that is the eventual plan if all goes well.

I asked that question to the admissions director and she gave me a coy little smile. She said they don't know where teh school is going. I think that is the eventual plan if all goes well.

Doesn't know where the school is going? Elaborate please.

Of course they probably do not know where it is going...we havent even started the first year of classes. Come on people! Give them time to get everything settled. The first year is always the roughest. They only use Erie for Financial Aid and Admissions otherwise they are pretty much on their own:thumbup:

I'm assuming that all of you get the federal unsubsidized and subsidized and the grad plus loans...i talked to the financial aid office and they said that the grad plus loan has an 8.5% interest rate and a 3% origination fee...is there a better loan we can take with a lower interest rate or are all of you taking the grad plus loans?

The GRAD Plus loan is going to be that fixed rate. It also depends on the lender. There were some lenders that were offering it at 8.25. However, they also had a high origination fee. The one I was looking at was 8.5 rate with 0% origination fee. The only other loans I can think of are private loans and you dont get the best deals with those either. SO...look at all your lender options.

The GRAD Plus loan is going to be that fixed rate. It also depends on the lender. There were some lenders that were offering it at 8.25. However, they also had a high origination fee. The one I was looking at was 8.5 rate with 0% origination fee. The only other loans I can think of are private loans and you dont get the best deals with those either. SO...look at all your lender options.

which one where you looking into?

Well I applied to the Total Higher Education because they do not accrue interest while I am in school if I understood the website correctly. Plus, I am not sure if I will need the loans or not. I am getting Boarded for the Army HPSP scholarship June 2, but I have to take out loans to be on the safe side. If I get the HPSP scholarship then I will be canceling my loans. If you have any other questions just post them I check this multiple times a day. :) Good Luck!

I was accepted today at Seton Hill. Excited but were do I find a place to live.

I was accepted today at Seton Hill. Excited but were do I find a place to live.


You should be receiving a matriculation packet soon. It will give a list of places. However, to get a jump on it go to mygreensburgapartment.com

Congrats! Make sure you join the Facebook group!

Are there books I should be purchasing, short white coat, etc.

Have you not received the matriculation packet? Everything you need is in there. Have you joined the facebook group?

The only matriculation packet that I received was from an e-mail attachment. I had been waitlisted and then told to get started with the paper work. 5 days later I was accepted at Seton Hill. I was accepted by telephone call on the 19th and told to wait for a letter it would tell me everything to do. I received the letter the 29th and they want the $1500 by the 29th, I called they extended it, but must be postmarked by June 1. Do you know do I send my paper work to Seton Hill or LECOM? No I have not added myself to facebook yet. I have no idea about apartments in Greensburg if anyone can help, please let me know. I sort of out of the loop, I've been doing mission work for the past year and not home yet.

As for your deposit Send it to the Erie Campus. If you have a Facebook account I would definitely recommend adding to the group. They have everything u could need about finding housing and getting to know the class.

I would call Seton Hill on Monday if you can: Main Phone No. 724-552-1373. As them any questions you have especially about getting the matriculation packet as well as the first memo (it contains the booklist). They are the nicest people. If you want to call LECOM Erie about the address for the deposit call this number Main Phone No. 814-866-6641. The people in Erie are great they do anything they can to help u out.

If you have any other questions email me at warnjes@bvu.edu :thumbup:

Thanks for the information, I sent my deposite today. I also E-mailed Linda Linville after calling Seton Hill and the secretary gave me her name as a contact for Seton Hill. Do they usually send the matriculation packet after they receive your money? What about the immunization records? Do all the shots need to be complete before July 25th?

Yes. Come to think of it they did send the packet AFTER I sent the deposit. I dont think all of the shots have to be done by the 25th. I would recommend getting all the titers and drug tests done ASAP. It was difficult for a few of us to find a place the does the specific drug/urine test. I found out that when I was immunized my Hepatitis B vaccine didnt work. SO I am in the process of getting all of those done and the shots wont me done until a few months from now. However, that being said I would still try to get all of them done ASAP. Also, you will have to have a Criminal Background Check done if your state make sure you do that quickly as well because that will take a few weeks.

Good Luck!

Hi everyone, just wanted to let you waitlisters know that I just withdrew my acceptance from Seton Hill. Hope one of you gets my spot...good luck!!

Hi everyone! I just received the secondary application from LCEOM, and theres one question asking for "First Campus Preference." I wonder if this would hinder my chances of getting into the other campus. I prefer Erie because theres an airport near by (I'm from FL).

Hi everyone! I just received the secondary application from LCEOM, and theres one question asking for "First Campus Preference." I wonder if this would hinder my chances of getting into the other campus. I prefer Erie because theres an airport near by (I'm from FL).
I have no official info on this but I'm pretty sure it did have some effect last year. I think what makes the biggest influence, as long as you're not originally from Erie or Pittsburg, is what pathway you pick. They evaluate you on what pathway you prefer and what one they either think you'll fit in or for what pathway they have openings for. This early in the game the latter shouldn't matter to much.
Good luck.

Hi everyone! I just received the secondary application from LCEOM, and theres one question asking for "First Campus Preference." I wonder if this would hinder my chances of getting into the other campus. I prefer Erie because theres an airport near by (I'm from FL).

Just as an aside...Greensburg is only about an hour from Pittsburgh (along with the Pittsburgh airport). Its a quick drive on the interstate. I am from the Midwest so I have to fly when I go home. Some of my friends, I study with, are from Ohio so they will be dropping me off at the airport on their way home during breaks.

When I interviewed, you rated what pathway you wanted. If you wanted PBL they would ask you if you would be ok with going to Seton Hill. I got accepted in the beginning of Feburary and all of the PBL slots in Erie were full. SO I was accepted into the LDP pathway in Erie and also into PBL at Seton Hill. I love PBL so I went to Seton Hill and dont regret it a bit. If you want to do any other pathway you have to go to Erie because Seton Hill and Bradenton are both all PBL. Again the only thing that would hinder you from getting into another campus was if you did NOT want to do PBL.

Personally, I love PBL cause we have class for about 4 hours a day...then you have the rest of the day to study. Alot of us get together on campus somewhere for a good rest of the day to study together. However, you have to be a motivated studier on your own.

If you have any other questions just ask!:D

Alright, now this thread is moving. With class started at Seton Hill, I hope we can begin to get some feedback from first-handers.

DoctaJMa,

Congratulations, you are now one of only a hundred people on the planet earth qualified to answer questions on this subject. I just visited SetonHill on Friday to talk with Linda Linville and we had a great conversation but I was a bit concerned about a few major/minor things.

1. Non science faculty as PBL facillitators.
2. Self-directed Gross Anatomy in the style of PBL.
3. Rumor that rotations are limited to Excela Health.

What do you know? How is anatomy going to function for you? Any lingering concerns now that classes have begun?

I thought it seemed a bit more relaxed than the Erie campus, and Linda seemed very competent and did her job well as I left feeling very good. about the program.

Thanks for any feedback you can give us.
T

Alright, now this thread is moving. With class started at Seton Hill, I hope we can begin to get some feedback from first-handers.

DoctaJMa,

Congratulations, you are now one of only a hundred people on the planet earth qualified to answer questions on this subject. I just visited SetonHill on Friday to talk with Linda Linville and we had a great conversation but I was a bit concerned about a few major/minor things.

1. Non science faculty as PBL facillitators.
2. Self-directed Gross Anatomy in the style of PBL.
3. Rumor that rotations are limited to Excela Health.

What do you know? How is anatomy going to function for you? Any lingering concerns now that classes have begun?

I thought it seemed a bit more relaxed than the Erie campus, and Linda seemed very competent and did her job well as I left feeling very good. about the program.

Thanks for any feedback you can give us.
T

HEHE

Ok first I will address ur numbers!

1. All Facilitators are Science Faculty. They are either DO's or hold a PhD in some science field. Keep in mind we are learning medicine in PBL groups. However, to understand the Medicine of it you have to have a firm grasp of the science behind it to begin with. I have interacted with all of the professors and they all seem very competent to me. What I am trying to say is that the science profs (PhDs) understand the material just as well as the physicians with the exception of Anatomy.

2. Self-directed anatomy...it was interesting at first. I have to start by saying that if you are not a motivated self learner then maybe PBL is not your type of learning pathway. Even though you would be assigned certain pages for PBL to read, the expectation is that you will spend extra time looking up other stuff about the case. Anatomy is the same way. It may be "self-directed" but it is alot more structured that you think. You meet two times a week for Anatomy Forums. These include going over cases to reinforce what you should be learning that week. We are also given learning objects (like what are expected to know and pages to read and activities to do). It is not like they through a book at you and say read this. It is structured. So dont fret too much. It does get overwhelming sometimes becasue you are expected to read nearly 140 pages a week for each section of anatomy and have it down, but it is possible. Erie PBL has the same kind Anatomy as we do. They are doing the "self-directed" path as well. Again, I reiterate, if you are a proficient motivated self-studier then you will be fine. It is just alot of work...which med school is technically supposed to be.

3. If you want to stay in the area then your options (AT THIS TIME) may be limited to Excela. Dr. Ferretti is working on getting more rotations set up. Also, we have the option of rotating all over the country. I have fellow students/friends that are from Ohio that will most likely be rotating most of the time in Ohio. There are other options all over like California, Florida, Ohio, and so on. I will most likely be rotating in Iowa and Nebraska a few times.

To be honest with you I love it here at Seton Hill. I cannot imagine sitting in class from 8 to 4. I do alot better sitting at home reading the material and figuring things out on my own. Typically, we have 3 to 4 hours of lecture or PBL per day. Then the rest of the day is our own. With all of that time...techincally there is no reason you shouldnt be able to get the readings done and so on.

Also I have a group of friends I get together with twice a week and go over clinical relations to our material. Anatomy is going great for me...:xf:(test on Friday). I am a believer that if you put in the time and effort you will get that back out with passing scores. BTW Dr. Seeger (Anatomy, Embryo, and Histo Prof) is great. She even gets on Facebook at night and if we are on at the same time and have questions she will answer them for us. We also have a Question board you can ask questions on and a professor will get back to you within 12 to 24 hours.

If you have any other questions Just ask! :thumbup:

All Facilitators are Science Faculty.

I don't intend to be a contrarian but this was not my understanding given the discussion I had with Linda Linville, Admissions Director. In fact, she told me that she herself is a PBL facillitator and she has "studied very hard" to be able to keep up with the cases. I believe she said that her background is a M.Ed or somesuch advanced study in education. Not to knock the contribution that that experience might have on a group. Advanced study in education might actually make for a better facillitator. My concerns though are not about productive group dynamics but are focussed on the material to be studied.

While she seems competent enough, I left with a bit of trepidation about her ability to function as a facillitator for a discussion of what is essentially deep science. I understand that PBL is almost entirely self-directed, and as with anything else, it is what you make of it. However, there is always at least one knucklehead in the group(guilty here of having an ocassional thick-skull) and it seems to me that if a discussion gets off course, or begins to devolve into speculation there will be no one in such a PBL section to catch/correct any misstatements and share a deeper knowledge of the material.

In my own background as an instructor I have been a facillitator of seminar style discussion at the college level, but always in an area of my own expertise. I can't imagine what nonsense might have been thrown about if, as a facillitator, I was necessarily deferring to my students for verification of fact because of a deficit of training.

DoctaJMa, it seems that you have lucked out so far in your PBL groups. Please keep us informed if you happed to have Linda or another non-scientist type as a facillitator. I'd be very curious to know how sucessful it is. ;) I expect a full report at the end o' the semester.

Ciao,
T

I don't intend to be a contrarian but this was not my understanding given the discussion I had with Linda Linville, Admissions Director. In fact, she told me that she herself is a PBL facillitator and she has "studied very hard" to be able to keep up with the cases. I believe she said that her background is a M.Ed or somesuch advanced study in education. Not to knock the contribution that that experience might have on a group. Advanced study in education might actually make for a better facillitator. My concerns though are not about productive group dynamics but are focussed on the material to be studied.

While she seems competent enough, I left with a bit of trepidation about her ability to function as a facillitator for a discussion of what is essentially deep science. I understand that PBL is almost entirely self-directed, and as with anything else, it is what you make of it. However, there is always at least one knucklehead in the group(guilty here of having an ocassional thick-skull) and it seems to me that if a discussion gets off course, or begins to devolve into speculation there will be no one in such a PBL section to catch/correct any misstatements and share a deeper knowledge of the material.

In my own background as an instructor I have been a facillitator of seminar style discussion at the college level, but always in an area of my own expertise. I can't imagine what nonsense might have been thrown about if, as a facillitator, I was necessarily deferring to my students for verification of fact because of a deficit of training.

DoctaJMa, it seems that you have lucked out so far in your PBL groups. Please keep us informed if you happed to have Linda or another non-scientist type as a facillitator. I'd be very curious to know how sucessful it is. ;) I expect a full report at the end o' the semester.

Ciao,
T

I understand your concerns, and they are certainly warranted. However, do remember that the facilitators are just that...they make sure you progress. Usually, they are not going to take the time explaining science to you. The way PBL works is that you are given a case and symptoms. Then the group comes up with explanations for the symptoms. They explanations are based on what each person found in the book.

For instance, in our case our baby scores a 0 on the APGAR test for color. We had to look up the test and then predict what we thought was causing it. We then looked up blood gas tests, CBC, and congenital defects that cause cause a blue baby. When we looked up these tests we wrote down the pages on the board. Some were from Biochem books (for the science) and some were from the embryo book (development). We teach ourselves the material. The facilitator is there just to make sure you dont go off in the wrong direction. Like trying to focus on a symptom that is not important.

It is a plus to have a PhD or Physician because they MIGHT give you a tip once and awhile, but rarely do :). They shouldnt...we are teaching ourselves through discussion and interaction. The pages looked up in class are sent out to the group to read for the next session.

The only thing I can say is that when you go home and read the material and come across something you dont understand in the science...there is a professor in their office that can help you if you have questions.

I understand ur concern, and all I can say is they mainly facilitate and make sure we are on the right track rarely are they going to discuss science in the group setting...there isnt enough time for that.

Hope this helps!

Totally helps. I also went to the LECOM website and read up on the role of the facilitator. Pretty much as you've described. I think it's amazing that you're given the freedom and the confidence to learn on your own.

As far as anatomy, I've been reading about the trend away from cadaver/ dissection and it seems that for the most part schools are holding onto the tradition for historical or social reasons (a nod to Vesalius or an opportunity to discuss death and dying). It seems to be more of a rite of passage these days, a vestigial remnant.

I'm curious though, what particular resources are available to you at seton hill? For example, Acland's DVD's or Primal Pictures 3-D atlas?
Of course there are texts, but there's so much available multimedia. I wonder what resources LECOM has purchased licenses for and how robust are the machines for viewing them (RAM, monitor sizes, etc.) Any thoughts?

Thanks again. You're super generous.

T

Totally helps. I also went to the LECOM website and read up on the role of the facilitator. Pretty much as you've described. I think it's amazing that you're given the freedom and the confidence to learn on your own.

As far as anatomy, I've been reading about the trend away from cadaver/ dissection and it seems that for the most part schools are holding onto the tradition for historical or social reasons (a nod to Vesalius or an opportunity to discuss death and dying). It seems to be more of a rite of passage these days, a vestigial remnant.

I'm curious though, what particular resources are available to you at seton hill? For example, Acland's DVD's or Primal Pictures 3-D atlas?
Of course there are texts, but there's so much available multimedia. I wonder what resources LECOM has purchased licenses for and how robust are the machines for viewing them (RAM, monitor sizes, etc.) Any thoughts?

Thanks again. You're super generous.

T

We have a TON of resources. Achlands is actually one of our required materials for the learning objects given to use to know. I have not personally looked in the Library but I know we have 4 boxes of bones (complete skeletons), MANY atlas', there are tons of resources in the library. Most students, however, choose to have their own materials. We were required to have A main textbook (changes each year) plus at least one atlas. I have two atlas', the main text book, a BRS Gross Anatomy book (YOU SHOULD GET THIS), Grays Anatomy Notecards, and the A&P Revealed CD 2.0. THis Cd is one of the resources you will use the most (it takes the place of the cadavers).

There are many MANY resources for you to use, but I would budget a little extra money for your own extra books (even if you do not go to Seton Hill). Everyone in our class had bought supplimental materials to help them learn.

AS for Cadavers being a right of passage I can see that. I personally didnt really care if I had a cadaver or not. I had one in undergrad and enjoyed it then. Cadavers actually take up alot of time becasue of labs. Without the labs we are able to study and get further in material even though we are learning the same about of Anatomy material as those with cadavers (we just dont have to spend the time dissecting).

Keep firing the questions! :D

DoctaJMa, thank you for your candid insights. It's great to have an inside source. I checked out the A&P Revealed. Looks OK, but I've seen better. It appears to be geared toward anatomy at the undergraduate level. How about Primal Pictures or Visible Body? Visible Body is pretty amazing, full 3-D rendering and the ability to manipulate the model in real time - search and zoom in on structures, remove layers, view one half of the body as circulation only and the other half as PNS only. The possibilities are pretty limitless. Both are available online for a monthly subscription. I think it will be well worth it when the time comes.

Anyhow, thanks again and GOOD LUCK!

I'm about to take the MCAT on September 10 of this year. In case I was not satisfied with the score, does anyone know if LECOM still accepts the January MCAT?
I would also like to hear some feedback from those who started their first year at LECOM Seton Hill since it's the campus I'm interested in applying to.
Thank you all and good luck.:thumbup:

I'm about to take the MCAT on September 10 of this year. In case I was not satisfied with the score, does anyone know if LECOM still accepts the January MCAT?
I would also like to hear some feedback from those who started their first year at LECOM Seton Hill since it's the campus I'm interested in applying to.
Thank you all and good luck.:thumbup:

The took retook the MCAT in January last year after I had already interviewed and now I'm an OMS I at LECOM - Seton Hill.
I've don't know what much else to say beyond the last few topics. I feel I'm getting a good basic science education. I study until my brain is numb everyday.
Anatomy has been a blast... I was talking with some friends I have at Ohio State about anatomy and how it's going for them and we seem to be at an equal level factwise. They have a gross anatomy lab and do disections and say it is very interesting but spend hours every morning in the lab physicall trying to find a stucture. I'm happy with our self direction.
We had our first anatmy exams this last week and get our scores back today, we'll see then how it's actually working.
It's the first year this campus is open so there have been a few bumps in the road but the faculty have been very open with us abut everything and they are trying very hard to make things fair yet challenging for us.

The took retook the MCAT in January last year after I had already interviewed and now I'm an OMS I at LECOM - Seton Hill.
I've don't know what much else to say beyond the last few topics. I feel I'm getting a good basic science education. I study until my brain is numb everyday.
Anatomy has been a blast... I was talking with some friends I have at Ohio State about anatomy and how it's going for them and we seem to be at an equal level factwise. They have a gross anatomy lab and do disections and say it is very interesting but spend hours every morning in the lab physicall trying to find a stucture. I'm happy with our self direction.
We had our first anatmy exams this last week and get our scores back today, we'll see then how it's actually working.
It's the first year this campus is open so there have been a few bumps in the road but the faculty have been very open with us abut everything and they are trying very hard to make things fair yet challenging for us.
So, did they accept your first score or they interviewed you with the hope that you will score better on the January exam???
More insight please. Thank you.:)

So, did they accept your first score or they interviewed you with the hope that you will score better on the January exam???
More insight please. Thank you.:)

I was told that they accept your best score, not most recent. I actually didn't do any better the second time around so the score it's self didn't change much as far as admissions. The fact that I took it again showed how bad I wanted to get in. I got in late off the wait-list.

I was told that they accept your best score, not most recent. I actually didn't do any better the second time around so the score it's self didn't change much as far as admissions. The fact that I took it again showed how bad I wanted to get in. I got in late off the wait-list.

I am facing a dilemma and your input would greatly help. I want to re-take my MCAT in January but I am wondering whether I should put that down on AACOMAS. I fear that if I let them know, most the schools would just put me on hold till they receive my new scores. I am also worried that I might just get rejected if I do not tell them that I don't plan on re-taking.

so my question is, did you let them know that you were planning on retaking your MCAT? if yes, Did they interview you before you reported your new scores or put you on hold till they got your Jan scores.

I am facing a dilemma and your input would greatly help. I want to re-take my MCAT in January but I am wondering whether I should put that down on AACOMAS. I fear that if I let them know, most the schools would just put me on hold till they receive my new scores. I am also worried that I might just get rejected if I do not tell them that I don't plan on re-taking.

so my question is, did you let them know that you were planning on retaking your MCAT? if yes, Did they interview you before you reported your new scores or put you on hold till they got your Jan scores.

I didn't try to hide the fact that the MCAT was the greatest detriment to my application but stated mostly other positive facts about how great I was. I aknowleged my weakness but didn't cry about it. I did not specifically say I was going to retake the MCAT. I received a few interviews and discused the MCAT issue with the faculty when I was there. I was placed on 2 waitlists, rejected frm another and then accepted to both schools after I reported my 2nd MCAT score(which was not better than my first score).
good luck

thank you for your response!

I think I am not going to say anything about planned MCAT on AACOMAS. I am just going to keep my fingers crossed and hope for some secondaries and even an interview or two with this crapy score. I will report my scores when I get them in Feb.

I didn't try to hide the fact that the MCAT was the greatest detriment to my application but stated mostly other positive facts about how great I was. I aknowleged my weakness but didn't cry about it. I did not specifically say I was going to retake the MCAT. I received a few interviews and discused the MCAT issue with the faculty when I was there. I was placed on 2 waitlists, rejected frm another and then accepted to both schools after I reported my 2nd MCAT score(which was not better than my first score).
good luck

Do you mind if I asked what you got on the first score?

Do you mind if I asked what you got on the first score?
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