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mshheaddoc 07-18-2007, 05:48 AM For discussion of the school noted above. This includes interview dates, questions, etc. Threads will be merged in here if they are created on their own.
We are doing this to cut down on the traffic of threads so it makes it easier for people to find information about a school.
lainey234 06-28-2008, 08:20 AM I did a search but can't seem to find any info on RVUs secondary from last year. Anyone out there happen to remember what they asked?
Thanks
ShyRem 06-28-2008, 08:25 AM bump
Cp22kjer 06-28-2008, 08:39 AM Has it been determined yet if clinicals will be at some of the same places as University of Colorado? To me this would be huge, and if RVU were to work that out, it would put them high on my list.
Cp22kjer 08-02-2008, 11:22 AM Anyone filling out their secondary?
I am kind of confused about the essays.
gasapple 08-02-2008, 05:34 PM Has it been determined yet if clinicals will be at some of the same places as University of Colorado? To me this would be huge, and if RVU were to work that out, it would put them high on my list.
Yes - this was in the former RVUCOM interview thread. The UofC is moving their students to Anschutz, their new teaching hospital. RVUCOM will be moving a number of students into the same clinical sites - and into new locations as well.
Sandlot13 08-02-2008, 06:47 PM just got my secondary.... some of the questions were kind of confusing, but i was just glancing over them real quick.... i'll take a closer look tomorrow or monday maybe and see what it looks like
White Rabbit 08-02-2008, 07:03 PM Yes - this was in the former RVUCOM interview thread. The UofC is moving their students to Anschutz, their new teaching hospital. RVUCOM will be moving a number of students into the same clinical sites - and into new locations as well.
Correct. :D:thumbup:
Cp22kjer 08-02-2008, 08:33 PM Yes - this was in the former RVUCOM interview thread. The UofC is moving their students to Anschutz, their new teaching hospital. RVUCOM will be moving a number of students into the same clinical sites - and into new locations as well.
Yeah thanks I did some reading and found that out! Tell you what in a few years people are going to be fightin to get in there I think. What a great thing for RVU.
Cp22kjer 08-02-2008, 08:35 PM just got my secondary.... some of the questions were kind of confusing, but i was just glancing over them real quick.... i'll take a closer look tomorrow or monday maybe and see what it looks like
Well the essays seem straight forward but then below them it talks about out lining your PS and adding things but honestly the things they say to add are answered in the prompts.
lainey234 08-05-2008, 07:29 AM Do these essays bring tears to anyone else's eyes? Five essays including a summary of your PS. Gawd, I am so burned out on talking about how great I am. :D
Airlife91 08-06-2008, 07:25 AM Do these essays bring tears to anyone else's eyes? Five essays including a summary of your PS. Gawd, I am so burned out on talking about how great I am. :D
Haha, yeah it was the longest application I've had yet. I finally got done and sent it off yesterday. Now I'm waiting for my LOR's to be sent, which I have a feeling may take a while. Hopefully it won't hold me back too long!
gopher22 08-06-2008, 09:07 AM The UofC is moving their students to Anschutz
Sounds like a concentration camp.
kyro 7 08-06-2008, 05:21 PM I read on RVU's website that they start interviewing Aug 8th, has anyone got an invite to interview?? :confused:
Cp22kjer 08-06-2008, 08:19 PM I don't think they started yet...the admissions office said they have not sent out invites yet as of yesterday.
kyro 7 08-06-2008, 08:29 PM Great, thats good to know.
kyro 7 08-06-2008, 08:30 PM Did they give you an estimate for when they would start?
Cp22kjer 08-06-2008, 11:17 PM Did they give you an estimate for when they would start?
Not that I can remember. She just said that the dean is going through the first stack soon to pick out interviews...
MJ2008 08-07-2008, 01:20 PM Is anyone worried about the repercusion of applying to a new school?
I know federal loans are not available here. . . and they are "for-profit" business. . .
I applied there on the aacom app but I'm still contemplating whether I should fill out the secondary. . . is anyone else worried about this?
Cp22kjer 08-07-2008, 02:54 PM Is anyone worried about the repercusion of applying to a new school?
I know federal loans are not available here. . . and they are "for-profit" business. . .
I applied there on the aacom app but I'm still contemplating whether I should fill out the secondary. . . is anyone else worried about this?
Well I think there's ways around the loans. You may want to post on here as some of the MSI will have jumped the hurdle already.
And the for profit doesn't bother me as long as I get an education comparable to the rest. The administration put in the money to make it a good school and with rotation sites paralleling UofC I think it would be a steal to get in but thats just me.
White Rabbit 08-07-2008, 09:02 PM And the for profit doesn't bother me as long as I get an education comparable to the rest. The administration put in the money to make it a good school and with rotation sites paralleling UofC I think it would be a steal to get in but thats just me.
I can say that I'm extremely pleased with my decision to attend RVUCOM. Granted, I've only been a student there for two weeks (first week was orientation and the White Coat Ceremony) but things are going smoothly, the resources are plentiful, the school is in Denver metro with a strong regional support, and the faculty/staff is simply awesome. There are a wide range of clinicians in-house, including a cardio thoracic surgeon - and DOs, DO-PhDs, MDs, and PhDs of a wide-range of disciplines. Our librarians are medical journal experts with PhDs and they have a large ancillary staff. In addition, two Radiologists from nearby hospitals (one of many where we'll do clinicals) visited for lectures yesterday and today. I've also been particularly impressed with Structural Medicine (the most exposure so far with gross starting this week) and I'm sure Foundations of Medicine and Principles of Clinical Medicine will be right up there soon. For PCM, we'll be starting standardized patient interaction in a matter of weeks.
All I can say is go interview a meet a few people there if you have doubts - and check out the faculty roster. Needless to say, I was fortunate receiving a number of acceptances and I've been amazed so far. Denver is simply an amazing place to train as well. I feel confident our training & boards will be exceptional based on what I've learned so far and what's planned. The RVUCOM faculty are the real deal. Best of luck :thumbup: :luck:
Jack_Adam 08-07-2008, 11:16 PM In addition, two Radiologists from nearby hospitals (one of many where we'll do clinicals) visited for lectures yesterday and today.
Those two radiologists happen to be the Co-Chairs for the Department of Radiology!
I am also very happy with my decision to attend RVUCOM. The faculty and staff have made every effort to ensure that everything runs smoothly. The curricular structure, exams, and experiences have been thoughtfully designed. I have been continually impressed by many aspects related to our education, including the facilities, and the positive community response to our presence. I look forward to meeting some of you when you come to interview!
Feel free to PM me with questions, but please be aware that I may not respond immediately! :)
kyro 7 08-08-2008, 07:06 AM What is the housing situation? Is there on campus housing or have you just found something nearby? Is there much available, what are prices like... etc.
White Rabbit 08-08-2008, 11:26 AM Those two radiologists happen to be the Co-Chairs for the Department of Radiology!
Yep. I neglected to mention that aspect. :thumbup:
White Rabbit 08-08-2008, 11:29 AM What is the housing situation? Is there on campus housing or have you just found something nearby? Is there much available, what are prices like... etc.
There are apartments nearby and plenty of homes for purchase/lease since it's a large metro area. You shouldn't have any problems whatsoever finding something to suit your needs.
kyro 7 08-08-2008, 02:23 PM I got an interview invite today and am trying to figure out some of the logistics, do I need to rent a car or is there another, better way to get around? Another other advice would be appriciated.
Cp22kjer 08-08-2008, 03:49 PM Congrads on the interview! How long have you been complete at RVU? I'm praying for one. All of my LORS and the supplemental should be in by now.....
TexasTriathlete 08-08-2008, 03:52 PM Jack_Adam???
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kyro 7 08-08-2008, 04:15 PM Congrads on the interview! How long have you been complete at RVU? I'm praying for one. All of my LORS and the supplemental should be in by now.....
I mailed all of my secondary stuff and sent in my LOR via virtual evals on July 30. They never sent me a notice saying that I was complete, I just got the call this morning for the interview.
Cp22kjer 08-08-2008, 07:15 PM I mailed all of my secondary stuff and sent in my LOR via virtual evals on July 30. They never sent me a notice saying that I was complete, I just got the call this morning for the interview.
Thanks! You must be with the first batch of interviewers.
gasapple 08-09-2008, 09:40 AM I got an interview invite today and am trying to figure out some of the logistics, do I need to rent a car or is there another, better way to get around? Another other advice would be appriciated.
I'd rent a car but keep in mind that there will be a large number of idiots descending on Denver later this month for the DNC. As a result, you'll be paying inflated rates for rental cars as well as your hotel. However, check with the RVUCOM staff with regard to possible car and hotel "deals".
"Not stupid enough to vote democratic."
lainey234 08-10-2008, 03:05 AM I got an interview invite today and am trying to figure out some of the logistics, do I need to rent a car or is there another, better way to get around? Another other advice would be appriciated.
Congratulations on your interview! Do you mind sharing your basic stats - gpa/mcat/IS? There isn't much data available on this school yet and I was curious. Thanks!
kyro 7 08-10-2008, 02:59 PM Congratulations on your interview! Do you mind sharing your basic stats - gpa/mcat/IS? There isn't much data available on this school yet and I was curious. Thanks!
Overall GPA- 3.51
Science GPA- 3.44
MCAT- 28
I also have a lot of clinical and research experience as well as a lot of other extracuricular activities.
White Rabbit 08-14-2008, 10:05 PM Overall GPA- 3.51
Science GPA- 3.44
MCAT- 28
I also have a lot of clinical and research experience as well as a lot of other extracuricular activities.
Have a great interview. :thumbup:
kyro 7 08-14-2008, 10:37 PM Have a great interview. :thumbup:
Thanks for the encouragement! I really hope things go well. I am from Utah and would love to stay in the intermountain region. I'm really excited to have a DO school open in this area. I feel like this is a part of the country where DOs aren't as well known or mainstream in comparison with other parts of the country, I would be excited to be apart of all RVU will do to help with that and create more awareness. I hope it will open doors for other schools to open in the region. My only concern with RVU is the whole lack of federal financial aid situation. Any thoughts on that white rabbit?? Was it very difficult to find a way to pay for school? I'm sure they will talk about this in the interview but I would love to hear the perspective of a current student that has had to go through it all. Any other thoughts about the school in general, now that you've started up, would be appriciated!
boone95 08-15-2008, 10:46 AM My only concern with RVU is the whole lack of federal financial aid situation. Was it very difficult to find a way to pay for school? Any other thoughts about the school in general, now that you've started up, would be appriciated!
We only had a couple options to pay for school. The first is military, which pays for everything, and the second is a private loan. They only really gave us one lender to go through (which was the best deal they could find I believe). Getting that loan was a piece of cake though. They said they'd get more options for next year's class. Federal funding will be available after they graduate their first class (so you'd get a year of federal).
Private loans aren't ideal, but it's gotta be done. And I don't think it's that big of a deal, honestly.
Everything else about the school is sweet so far. It's tough to complain when everything is great.
What was the rate on the private loan that was made available?
Lots of people on the HPSP?
Thanks.
-stiz
gasapple 08-15-2008, 11:21 PM Kyro - you in the very first interview group at RVUCOM for 2013? HAve they started interviewing there yet? Just curious...
White Rabbit 08-15-2008, 11:25 PM Federal funding will be available after they graduate their first class (so you'd get a year of federal).
Everything else about the school is sweet so far. It's tough to complain when everything is great.
Unless they get something on track (as is planned) with regard to a biomedical sciences master's program, nursing, or PA that graduates sooner, thus providing full accreditation and federal loan eligibility...
I fully agree with everything being "sweet" so far. :D
My only concern with RVU is the whole lack of federal financial aid situation. Any thoughts on that white rabbit?? Was it very difficult to find a way to pay for school? I'm sure they will talk about this in the interview but I would love to hear the perspective of a current student that has had to go through it all. Any other thoughts about the school in general, now that you've started up, would be appriciated!
Well, 160 other med students - or at least a majority, are doing it financially with no problem. :thumbup:
What was the rate on the private loan that was made available? Lots of people on the HPSP?
Thanks.
I wouldn't say a large number are going HPSP - I'd estimate about 10% - maybe. Everyone else is doing MedPlus, Nelnet, - or some variation from Sallie Mae Medical Loans (the majority). Someone else will have to chime up with regard to the going rates; I don't remember if it's Libor or Prime + 1-2 %. I think it all falls around 8% interest - or somewhere thereabouts.
kyro 7 08-16-2008, 04:13 PM Kyro - you in the very first interview group at RVUCOM for 2013? HAve they started interviewing there yet? Just curious...
Yes, I'm in the first interview group. My date is Sept 16. When they first called me with the invite they said I could choose between Aug. 26, 28 or Sept 16. I originally opted for the aug 26th date. But I got a call back an hour or two later saying they had to cancle the two Aug dates because the democratic national convention was being held that week in Denver, which would make it a little tough to find a hotel since most are booked out already! :) I rescheduled for Sept 16 which, as I understand it, will be the first interview day.
gasapple 08-16-2008, 10:18 PM Yes, I'm in the first interview group. My date is Sept 16. When they first called me with the invite they said I could choose between Aug. 26, 28 or Sept 16. I originally opted for the aug 26th date. But I got a call back an hour or two later saying they had to cancle the two Aug dates because the democratic national convention was being held that week in Denver, which would make it a little tough to find a hotel since most are booked out already! :) I rescheduled for Sept 16 which, as I understand it, will be the first interview day.
I was wondering how they'd planned on handling that aspect with the DNC imbeciles and all... sounds like they've got it all worked out. :thumbup:
White Rabbit 08-23-2008, 11:57 AM :laugh: I-25 will be shut down for a period of time! :thumbdown
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misswho 08-23-2008, 01:53 PM RVU's AACOM info sheet states they won't accept any MCAT subset score lower than a 6. I got a 5 on Physical Science, 27 overall.
I majorly messed up on that first section--nerves got the best of me and I had to take two breaks during PS section to go throw up. But I pulled it together and scored 11 on my other two sections, R on the Writing.
Do you think they will make an exception or should I not even apply to RVU since I have that awful 5 in PS? (BTW, my GPA does meet their cutoff and I have really strong everything else--LOR's, EC's, Research, DO shadowing, etc). Thanks in advance.
Billicus 08-23-2008, 02:29 PM RVU's AACOM info sheet states they won't accept any MCAT subset score lower than a 6. I got a 5 on Physical Science, 27 overall.
I majorly messed up on that first section--nerves got the best of me and I had to take two breaks during PS section to go throw up. But I pulled it together and scored 11 on my other two sections, R on the Writing.
Do you think they will make an exception or should I not even apply to RVU since I have that awful 5 in PS? (BTW, my GPA does meet their cutoff and I have really strong everything else--LOR's, EC's, Research, DO shadowing, etc). Thanks in advance.
You could give the admissions office a call and see what their opinion is. Your scores in the other two sections are great and if you say the rest of your application is good they could possibly make an exception (schools do that sometimes...). They may want you to retake the MCAT though to bring up the score in PS. I'm sure you'd do great though if you retook it. You can only get a better score than 5 - nothing to be nervous about! ;)
misswho 08-23-2008, 03:13 PM You could give the admissions office a call and see what their opinion is. Your scores in the other two sections are great and if you say the rest of your application is good they could possibly make an exception (schools do that sometimes...). They may want you to retake the MCAT though to bring up the score in PS. I'm sure you'd do great though if you retook it. You can only get a better score than 5 - nothing to be nervous about! ;)
Thanks Billicus! I will call RVU on Monday. I am crossing my fingers they will make an exception. I do not want to take the MCAT again, but I will if they want me to.
As far as I know, RVU is the only school to publish sub-set score cutoffs. But do you think it will it hurt my chances at other schools to have such an off-balanced score? Or will they just see the 27 and let me through their screens?
gasapple 08-23-2008, 08:25 PM There's no way to know if you'll get through various school screens. The 5 in a subsection stands out regardless. There's still a good chance you could land a decent number of interviews but I'd shoot for retaking the MCAT as you've planned. You'll surely bring up that section score and then you'll be golden; just the fact that you're retaking it might be enough for some schools to consider your application now while they wait for your new score.
Oh - I think a good person to talk to at RVUCOM is a adminission counselor named Kerri (don't recall her last name at the moment) - actually, probably anyone there in admissions can help with that question. If it were me, I'd go ahead and apply - broadly, with a MCAT retake in the offing. :thumbup:
Bamish 08-24-2008, 09:41 AM There's no way to know if you'll get through various school screens. The 5 in a subsection stands out regardless. There's still a good chance you could land a decent number of interviews but I'd shoot for retaking the MCAT as you've planned. You'll surely bring up that section score and then you'll be golden; just the fact that you're retaking it might be enough for some schools to consider your application now while they wait for your new score.
Oh - I think a good person to talk to at RVUCOM is a adminission counselor named Kerri (don't recall her last name at the moment) - actually, probably anyone there in admissions can help with that question. If it were me, I'd go ahead and apply - broadly, with a MCAT retake in the offing. :thumbup:
My wife had a few emails with Kerri, she is very helpful and I wouldn't hesitate to email her with any questions. I also agree that a 5 is well....less than spectacular so a retake probably couldn't hurt. I would (if I were in the same position) also apply broadly and hope for the best, but be planning on a retake. Anyway, good luck misswho! :)
skiracr456 08-25-2008, 02:46 PM I got the invite to complete the secondary and I am extremely confused. I see people talking about 5 essays and I can only see three on mine. It also says to email responses instead of submitting them online. Also did the secondary look strange on anyone else's computer. I am worried that I am missing information because I am using a Mac computer. Is anyone else using a mac?
gasapple 08-25-2008, 11:18 PM I got the invite to complete the secondary and I am extremely confused. I see people talking about 5 essays and I can only see three on mine. It also says to email responses instead of submitting them online. Also did the secondary look strange on anyone else's computer. I am worried that I am missing information because I am using a Mac computer. Is anyone else using a mac?
Just talk to someone at RVUCOM admissions about the sec app. :thumbup:
Airlife91 08-27-2008, 03:15 PM Just scheduled my RVU interview - 9/18! I'm very excited at the possibility of going to school in Colorado, and I've heard great things about the school...
White Rabbit 08-27-2008, 06:46 PM Just scheduled my RVU interview - 9/18! I'm very excited at the possibility of going to school in Colorado, and I've heard great things about the school...
Congrats on the invite. :thumbup:
Sit through a few classes if you're so inclined before or after you interview and meet some folks. As you've probably read, the faculty - without question, are at the top of their respective fields; the resident professor anatomist is the best I've ever encountered and the rest of the regular faculty I've had thus far in Foundations of Med/Molecular Medicine - some of which have dual degrees (DO-PhDs) and are Harvard Fellows, are great profs - a little too tough in my opinion but I hope it'll pay off when the boards come 'round.
I've also really enjoyed meeting/hearing lectures from the other faculty they've recruited - from family practice to ER - to a resident cardio-thoracic surgeon, as well as two local radiologists (previously mentioned in this thread), I'm swimming hard against the onslaught of material (it almost seems as though they've covered my entire undergrad degree in biochem/molecular in 3 weeks - this is the start of week 4 for us) but we've got leaders who will steer us right without a doubt. In addition, their are 3-4 physicians (which include Drs. Smith and Mohr among others) who are not teaching and are solely dedicated to clinical rotations and the RVUCOM residency program.
A few people PMed me so I thought I'd throw the info out there with regard to the faculty.
We're out their in Denver for clinical exposure (more in-depth shadowing) in only a matter of a couple weeks with dedicated preceptors!
Good luck to everyone with interviews so far! :thumbup::luck:
Airlife91 08-27-2008, 10:38 PM Thanks White Rabbit, I appreciate the info. Any other RVU students care to share their thoughts on the school so far? What's been good/bad?
White Rabbit 08-28-2008, 10:41 PM Thanks White Rabbit, I appreciate the info. Any other RVU students care to share their thoughts on the school so far? What's been good/bad?
NP. I think most of us are too busy at this point for SDN but some more folks are likely to chime in. It was a rough week with regard to tests. :eek:
gasapple 09-02-2008, 09:46 PM Just scheduled my RVU interview - 9/18! I'm very excited at the possibility of going to school in Colorado, and I've heard great things about the school...
GOod luck! :thumbup:
Deepa100 09-03-2008, 12:09 PM Hi,
I am not verified by the AACOMAS yet. I submitted everything including the MCAT scores. I only have a couple of DO schools that I applied to. RVU is one of them. Did you receive a secondary from RVU prior to getting verified?
Ebola Virus 09-03-2008, 01:54 PM Hi,
I am not verified by the AACOMAS yet. I submitted everything including the MCAT scores. I only have a couple of DO schools that I applied to. RVU is one of them. Did you receive a secondary from RVU prior to getting verified?
Nope. You receive a secondary from RVU about a week or so after being verified. But you can work on the secondary ahead of time by using the prompt listed SDN members.
OLYWA 09-04-2008, 03:37 PM Just an F.Y.I. if there are any others such as myself out there who took the April 2006 MCAT.
Ok, there was an issue that concerned me seeing as I took the MCAT in April of 2006. For you newbies out there...this is back when the MCAT was only given 2 times per year and only in the pencil and paper format.
Anyways...when I was going over my RVU application stuff...I noticed, in the 2009 AACOM College Information Book, that the oldest MCAT date accepted this year by RVU is 4/30/06. Seeing as the April 2006 MCAT was given on April 22, it seemed possible that RVU wouldn't take our MCAT scores from this test and we'd have to retake it. As the thought of re-taking the MCAT made me physically ill...I figured I'd call the school and ask if the 8 days really mattered.
Called today and spoke with Kerri and am now quite relieved as she said the April 2006 date is acceptable for applicants to this years class.
This post likely doesn't apply to most applicants...but it might for some of the other the non-trads out there. Good luck and hope to meet some of you at an interview...assuming I'm lucky enough to get one :scared:
Beadoc 09-04-2008, 10:11 PM Do they take recommendation letters from science professors instead?? My school doesn't have a pre-med commitee. The requirement says if you were enrolled in school for the past 12 month, you must submit a LOR from commitee or advisor...:(
gasapple 09-04-2008, 10:55 PM Do they take recommendation letters from science professors instead?? My school doesn't have a pre-med commitee. The requirement says if you were enrolled in school for the past 12 month, you must submit a LOR from commitee or advisor...:(
Yes, I'm fairly certain they do; verify with RVUCOM admissions.
lainey234 09-05-2008, 07:07 AM Do they take recommendation letters from science professors instead?? My school doesn't have a pre-med commitee. The requirement says if you were enrolled in school for the past 12 month, you must submit a LOR from commitee or advisor...:(
I submitted 2 science/1 non-science + DO letter and have an interview this month. My school had no commitee either and no real advisor to speak of.
skiracr456 09-05-2008, 04:03 PM Ugh I just received a status email from Rocky Vista saying that they were still considering my application and it will continue to be re-evaluated for an interview. What does this mean? Is it basically that I am being put on hold? For those of you who have been given interviews, what were your stats?
toot45 09-06-2008, 10:21 AM I am currently a student here at RVU. The school is great, staff come from other medical school from around the country. They really know what they are doing here and highly recommend attending. We are already going into offices and even Emergency rooms for shadowing experiences. We have rotations in denver, colorado springs, and pueblo...all consisting of all trauma levels. If you get an interview ask about the professors and you will see some of the top professors from medical school came here to teach. I guess they wanted to be in Colorado. There are plans to build a dental, nursing, and pharmacy school in the next 5 years. They already have the land, so this will be a major university in the years to come. Feel free to msg me with any questions.
lainey234 09-09-2008, 08:32 AM Sooooo, one week till my interview. Good thing I'm not getting nervous....
PREMED1234 09-09-2008, 01:27 PM I've had a few emails with Kerri, she is very helpful and I wouldn't hesitate to email her with any questions. I also agree that a 5 is well....less than spectacular so a retake probably couldn't hurt. I would (if I were in the same position) also apply broadly and hope for the best, but be planning on a retake. Anyway, good luck misswho! :)
you are right about kerry, i talked to her today and she is amazingly nice, she was more then help ful, and she will do anything to help. she called me twice to assure something about my application. anyone who have any concern about RVUCOM email or call kerry, thats the best source for you.
skiracr456 09-09-2008, 05:25 PM Actually I think everybody there must be nice. I have emailed back and forth a few times with Julie in admissions and she was really nice too!
OLYWA 09-09-2008, 06:00 PM I'll echo skiacr and premed's comments. I applied and interviewed at RVU last year (I applied a little too late in the cycle and didn't get pulled off of the waitlist...so this is my 2nd time around) and my experiences were the same. The admissions staff at RVU really goes above and beyond to help you throughout the process. If you have any, and I mean any, questions or problems...don't hesitate to call and/or email...they really do everything they can to make certain your experience with them is positive. Fortunately this attitude carries over into their interviews also...you'll be hard pressed to find another school who's interview process is less stressfull, friendly, and genuinely interested in making certain you are well informed about their school and program.
lainey234 09-10-2008, 09:30 AM Wow, talk about nice. Just as I was starting to get nervous I got a call this morning from RVU assuring me that the interview will be very low stress, not to worry about it, and that they are very selective about who they offer interviews to and therefor have a high ratio of interviews : offers. Definitely takes some of the pressure off!
stonewall22 09-10-2008, 10:26 AM I'll echo skiacr and premed's comments. I applied and interviewed at RVU last year (I applied a little too late in the cycle and didn't get pulled off of the waitlist...so this is my 2nd time around) and my experiences were the same. The admissions staff at RVU really goes above and beyond to help you throughout the process. If you have any, and I mean any, questions or problems...don't hesitate to call and/or email...they really do everything they can to make certain your experience with them is positive. Fortunately this attitude carries over into their interviews also...you'll be hard pressed to find another school who's interview process is less stressfull, friendly, and genuinely interested in making certain you are well informed about their school and program.
How's it going this round? Interview? Good luck!
gasapple 09-12-2008, 08:32 PM I'll echo skiacr and premed's comments. I applied and interviewed at RVU last year (I applied a little too late in the cycle and didn't get pulled off of the waitlist...so this is my 2nd time around) and my experiences were the same. The admissions staff at RVU really goes above and beyond to help you throughout the process. If you have any, and I mean any, questions or problems...don't hesitate to call and/or email...they really do everything they can to make certain your experience with them is positive. Fortunately this attitude carries over into their interviews also...you'll be hard pressed to find another school who's interview process is less stressfull, friendly, and genuinely interested in making certain you are well informed about their school and program.
yeppers
SJonathan 09-12-2008, 10:04 PM Did anyone else find it odd just emailing in your essay answers??
I want an interview!!
White Rabbit 09-16-2008, 10:08 PM The interview season is definitely in full-swing; there were a couple of sharp-dressed interview groups who came through just today. I'm sure your invite is in the offing.
All I can say is I thought I was well-equipped with a graduate degree in the sciences; I'm getting my ass handed to me. OOOF! :eek:
whoknows2008 09-17-2008, 08:49 AM Yay! Just got the call that I have an interview invite! She offered me two dates, but of course one conflicts with another interview :( and I didn't want to tell her .... off to Southwest to figure out when to fly!
Does anyone know the times of the morning interview versus afternoon interview?
Dciple 09-17-2008, 01:01 PM I may be an idiot (lol), but I do not see anywhere to put a "summary of my PS". Also, I only see 3 real questions and what seems like an optional "tell us more about you" question (but since there is already an "about you" question, I have nothing more to add). Can anyone shed some light on my essay dilemma here?!
White Rabbit 09-21-2008, 10:46 AM I'd get to writing and turn the form around as soon as possible to increase the likelihood of an interview. I had plenty to say in those extra fields and tried to use them to my advantage - but you might need to get a bit creative. Good luck. :thumbup:
Dciple 09-23-2008, 02:12 PM I may be an idiot (lol), but I do not see anywhere to put a "summary of my PS". Also, I only see 3 real questions and what seems like an optional "tell us more about you" question (but since there is already an "about you" question, I have nothing more to add). Can anyone shed some light on my essay dilemma here?!
Is there anyone out there who can answer these questions for me??
avervisal 09-24-2008, 09:15 AM How long were your guys' essays?
And I'd like to know the answer to Dciple's question as well!
SJonathan 09-24-2008, 10:08 AM Woot! Anybody else interviewing on the 15th??
White Rabbit 09-24-2008, 10:18 AM Hey there - good luck to all who have interviews scheduled and apologies to all those who have PM'd me regarding RVUCOM; it's been a rough week with testing and it's still rolling in with no immediate signs of abatement (:D) so I haven't had a chance to respond. Best of luck. :luck:
CandiDO 09-24-2008, 08:04 PM I am currently a student at RVU and I am incredibly happy with my decision so far. If you have any questions, feel free to PM me as well. Good luck to everyone interviewing! :)
gasapple 09-30-2008, 03:54 PM I may be an idiot
:meanie::thumbup:
Airlife91 09-30-2008, 07:06 PM Accepted! I got the call on Monday after interviewing on the 18th. RVU is definitely one of my first choices!
pado13 09-30-2008, 07:31 PM I was accepted on monday as well. I am looking forward to attending RVU.
Ranger DO 10-01-2008, 09:18 AM I got my acceptance call on Monday!! Looking forward to matriculating next fall.
Does anyone know the apartment building that is right over the hill (roughly 2 miles from the school)?
My wife and I are looking for apartments and jobs for her along with daycare for my two sons. If anyone has any experience with this please lend a hand.
boone95 10-03-2008, 02:14 PM Congrats to all of you! It's nice getting that acceptance out of the way early in the year.
I think the apartments you're referring to are the Cherrywood/Ranchstone Apartments. 2 names for the same place. I'm guessing about half of our class this year lives there. I have a couple excel sheets of apartments in the neighborhood that I'll email to you if you send me your address.
Congrats!
LoVEiT 10-03-2008, 02:45 PM Congrats to those who got accepted! I just went to the school a few weeks ago, when I was still debating to apply or not...and I absolutely loved it! I have submitted my application right away. However, I do know that I got on the train later than most students... my AACOM application is still in process..do you think this is too late? Also, how long does it take for AACOM application to go through and get the secondary?
Thanks!
White Rabbit 10-03-2008, 05:48 PM Congrats to those who got accepted! I just went to the school a few weeks ago, when I was still debating to apply or not...and I absolutely loved it! I have submitted my application right away. However, I do know that I got on the train later than most students... my AACOM application is still in process..do you think this is too late? Also, how long does it take for AACOM application to go through and get the secondary?
Thanks!
Nah, I think you'll be OK - especially if AACOMAS gets things going for you fairly quickly. Regardless, I think you're in good shape.
Did you schedule an appointment with one of the admission counselors recently for the tour or were you with a group? I'm assuming not an interview group per se based on your application status... just curious.
Best of luck! :luck:
Deepa100 10-04-2008, 07:52 PM I just started working on this secondary. Did you guys send out emails for each Q or one email for all Q's?
Also, this application does not seem to get saved on safari. I will try using firefox.
stonewall22 10-06-2008, 09:18 AM Any suggestions as to what they're hoping for here? I felt like my PS is already pretty succinct given the limited characters...help, please help! :D
Also wondering...any idea why PNWU was approved for federal financial aid but RVU is still relying on private loans? Thanks all.
PunkmedGirl 10-06-2008, 11:44 AM Any suggestions as to what they're hoping for here? I felt like my PS is already pretty succinct given the limited characters...help, please help! :D
Also wondering...any idea why PNWU was approved for federal financial aid but RVU is still relying on private loans? Thanks all.
RVU is designated as a for-profit status school so they have to graduate the first class first before being approved for federal financial aid where as PNWU along with all of the other DO schools are non-profit.
LoVEiT 10-06-2008, 12:16 PM I just came to talk to Kerri from the Admissions peeps there at RVU and she was so nice! She showed me around, gave the tour of the whole school and answered all the questions.
Deepa100 10-06-2008, 07:35 PM Is there a limit of words for the essays? I don't see it any where. Those of you who have gone thr' the process successfully, can you please answer?
Thanks!
Dissected 10-06-2008, 07:56 PM Is there a limit of words for the essays? I don't see it any where. Those of you who have gone thr' the process successfully, can you please answer?
Thanks!
No word limit. i would keep it reasonable though, adcoms dont like to read long wordy answers. good luck :)
Deepa100 10-06-2008, 08:57 PM No word limit. i would keep it reasonable though, adcoms dont like to read long wordy answers. good luck :)
Thanks, DoktorB! Are all questions that have text fields essays?
gasapple 10-06-2008, 10:16 PM they have to graduate the first class first before being approved for federal financial aid.
Or they can graduate from one of the other colleges that are in the works there - like nursing, PA, or any number of graduate biomedical progams but it's likely it will take at least 2 years for that to happen. They could try a loophole like PNUHS (or did they change it to PNWU, now?) by moving someone into a program early for funding - or even affiliate with some liberal arts school in the Appalachian sticks, but I don't think they'll go that route when things are going so smoothly in the Greater Denver area.
RVUCOM is plain badass when compared to most of the other DO schools in terms of faculty, early opportunities, rotations, and residencies in the Mountain West IMO; they're changing the entire medical playing field and elevating standards as far as I can tell. And it's the Denver metroplex, which is awesome. Not some school in the sticks. When I leave KCUMB I'm heading to some of those residencies there and my colleagues at RVUCOM will hopefully do as they've promised by keeping me posted. Right? :confused::D
White Rabbit 10-06-2008, 10:30 PM :laugh:
I know you're not really meaning to rail on other schools... but that's just cuz I know the game 'round these pre-med parts. ;)
We're all DOs here and we need to support one another and our respective schools. Anyway, I have to concur that RVUCOM is poised for some great things - and I'm a med student at said medical school. :hardy::thumbup:
Dissected 10-07-2008, 10:56 AM Thanks, DoktorB! Are all questions that have text fields essays?
yes! they have some other questions thrown in there later on in the app..and that confused me, but only answer the questions in the specific section that have the text fields (I believe there are 3 of them). I just filled out a word document and submitted that..got me an interview!!
LoVEiT 10-07-2008, 02:21 PM yes! they have some other questions thrown in there later on in the app..and that confused me, but only answer the questions in the specific section that have the text fields (I believe there are 3 of them). I just filled out a word document and submitted that..got me an interview!!
Do you have any suggestions as to how long I the answers should be? I mean most schools specify and it can be anywhere between 300 to 2500! Just would like to know how much you wrote... Thank ya!;)
Dissected 10-07-2008, 08:35 PM Do you have any suggestions as to how long I the answers should be? I mean most schools specify and it can be anywhere between 300 to 2500! Just would like to know how much you wrote... Thank ya!;)
I put roughly 800-1000 characters (with spaces) per answer, each one its own paragraph
gasapple 10-08-2008, 11:52 PM I know you're not really meaning to rail on other schools... but that's just cuz I know the game 'round these pre-med parts.
Indeed. I was more pleasant before I found SDN. :D
SJonathan 10-09-2008, 10:10 AM Anybody interviewing on Wednesday the 15? I ended up getting a hotel room, but the cheapest deal I could get had two full-sized beds. Anyone wanna go splitsies? It would end up about $30 a person, and breakfast is included.
gasapple 10-09-2008, 10:48 AM I stayed at the new Wingate off of Arapahoe Road when I interviewed and it was very nice. I think I paid $60 for what should have been a $140 hotel room. Keep in mind that was near their temporary office building last year so there might be hotels closer to the school now, but the Wingate, I believe, is still within a 10-minute drive.
Deepa100 10-11-2008, 07:13 PM Hi guys,
I got a phone message yesterday inviting me for an interview. I have not yet decided when to go. I will call them on Monday. There is a good chance that I will accept an offer of I am selected because I love CO!:cool:
I am wondering those of you who already interviewed could give me a few pointers? I would be grateful forever!!:thumbup:
kyro 7 10-11-2008, 11:12 PM Hi guys,
I got a phone message yesterday inviting me for an interview. I have not yet decided when to go. I will call them on Monday. There is a good chance that I will accept an offer of I am selected because I love CO!:cool:
I am wondering those of you who already interviewed could give me a few pointers? I would be grateful forever!!:thumbup:
I would say the most important thing is just relax and be your self. The interview is very low key and relaxed, nothing to get worked up over, just make sure you know your file. They go above and beyond to make sure that those who interview are comfortable and have a positive experience during the interview day. In fact a few days before they even gave everyone a call to remind them about the interview, answer any questions, and let them know that they screen heavily with the secondaries and resultantly have a very high aceptance rate from those who interview.
While you're waiting to interview we had quite a few students and faculty members poke their heads in to say hi, I would recomend trying to have some good conversations with them and to really pick their brains. They have no sway with the interview decision and are, imo, the best way to get a real feel for the school.
Sorry, I'm rambling on... hope this was helpful and let me know if you have any other question. I'm sure you'll knock 'em dead! :thumbup:
stonewall22 10-14-2008, 11:46 AM How long after submitting your secondary were you guys contacted (either interview invite or rejection)?
What percentage of interviewees are accepted?
Thanks!
Bamish 10-14-2008, 08:46 PM How long after submitting your secondary were you guys contacted (either interview invite or rejection)?
What percentage of interviewees are accepted?
Thanks!
I would like to know this also. Hopefully someone will share some information! :)
Airlife91 10-14-2008, 11:29 PM How long after submitting your secondary were you guys contacted (either interview invite or rejection)?
What percentage of interviewees are accepted?
Thanks!
It was about two and a half weeks for me. But I also had to wait for my LOR's to get sent in which took a little bit. So it was about a 10 days after my file was complete.
Deepa100 10-15-2008, 07:37 PM I would say the most important thing is just relax and be your self. The interview is very low key and relaxed, nothing to get worked up over, just make sure you know your file. They go above and beyond to make sure that those who interview are comfortable and have a positive experience during the interview day. In fact a few days before they even gave everyone a call to remind them about the interview, answer any questions, and let them know that they screen heavily with the secondaries and resultantly have a very high aceptance rate from those who interview.
While you're waiting to interview we had quite a few students and faculty members poke their heads in to say hi, I would recomend trying to have some good conversations with them and to really pick their brains. They have no sway with the interview decision and are, imo, the best way to get a real feel for the school.
Sorry, I'm rambling on... hope this was helpful and let me know if you have any other question. I'm sure you'll knock 'em dead! :thumbup:
Thanks! Did you ask them about their rotation sites?
Deepa100 10-15-2008, 07:37 PM How long after submitting your secondary were you guys contacted (either interview invite or rejection)?
What percentage of interviewees are accepted?
Thanks!
I got a phone call very quickly, a few days after I was complete.
pado13 10-15-2008, 07:59 PM rotations sites are predominantly Denver, with other sites being Colorado Springs, Grand Junction and another city I am not certain of.
Bamish 10-15-2008, 08:13 PM Thanks for the replies and information all, it's appreciated! :)
White Rabbit 10-15-2008, 10:43 PM Thanks! Did you ask them about their rotation sites?
There are a number of rotaiton sites in the works and I've been able to visit quite a few. There are many around the Denver area - and pretty much all the other places previously mentioned (CO Springs, etc.).
We are also already out with MD & DO preceptors on a bi-weekly basis. I really enjoy that aspect; it's a constant reminder of what I'm aiming for and it breaks up the week by allowing us to remove our noses from the books briefly. Also get to do some really cool hands-on stuff with the preceptors and I was surprised to find out I was able to answer a majority of the questions posed based on my first 8 weeks of med school alone! Anyway, the preceptor sites even include locations where we will be rotating in yrs 3-4, as well as locations where they are working on creating residencies - I was able to verify the residency plans at a number of sites for whatever it's worth.
pado13 10-16-2008, 06:04 AM white rabbit,
do you know if any of the residencies are outside the realm of primary care? also, do you have a list of required rotations for years 3 and 4?
stonewall22 10-16-2008, 09:31 AM white rabbit,
do you know if any of the residencies are outside the realm of primary care? also, do you have a list of required rotations for years 3 and 4?
This info is all in the RVU Handbook:
http://www.rockyvistauniversity.org/PDFs/RVUCOMCatalog.pdf
Required rotations are about the same as all other osteopathic schools.
See the handbook, page 21 for residency info.
Gene Genie 10-16-2008, 07:57 PM Or they can graduate from one of the other colleges that are in the works there - like nursing, PA, or any number of graduate biomedical progams but it's likely it will take at least 2 years for that to happen. They could try a loophole like PNUHS (or did they change it to PNWU, now?) by moving someone into a program early for funding - or even affiliate with some liberal arts school in the Appalachian sticks, but I don't think they'll go that route when things are going so smoothly in the Greater Denver area.
RVUCOM is plain badass when compared to most of the other DO schools in terms of faculty, early opportunities, rotations, and residencies in the Mountain West IMO; they're changing the entire medical playing field and elevating standards as far as I can tell. And it's the Denver metroplex, which is awesome. Not some school in the sticks. When I leave KCUMB I'm heading to some of those residencies there and my colleagues at RVUCOM will hopefully do as they've promised by keeping me posted. Right? :confused::D
Are you missing me already? I'm just so busy! I'm sure you are too. And, yes, RVUCOM is plain badass. :D
Gene Genie 10-16-2008, 08:03 PM Congrats to all of those who have been selected for an interview or have been invited to join the RVUCOM Class of 2013!
Feel free to send a message if you have any questions about the school, its faculty, curriculum, and the surrounding area. :)
SJonathan 10-17-2008, 02:53 PM I interviewed there the other day and I have to say I was super impressed. I understand people's concerns about the "newness" of the school, I had my reservations too, pre-interview. But wow, what a great program they have there. Given enough time, this is going to be one of the best medical schools in the country.
I really hope I get in.
Deepa100 10-17-2008, 07:38 PM I will be interviewing on the 7th of November. My husband and I plan to stay in the area for a day or two to look around a bit at the neighborhoods and companies with potential job opportunities for him. Are you guys visiting the school's rotation sites too? j/c.
White Rabbit 10-18-2008, 08:40 PM I'm a current student at RVUCOM and I researched the rotation sites and planned residency sites early on. For any questions, Drs. Smith and Mohr (and Dr. Martin) are the ones who are heading up rotation and residency creation solely - meaning, they aren't teaching faculty; they're responsible for rotation and residency creation in the region.
As far as visiting planned rotation sites and as I already mentioned in my excitement :D, we've all been out with preceptors (as first year med students) at least 3 or so times already; these select "early-visit" sites are likely future rotation sites according to the practicing Drs. with whom I've spoken. We're also formally providing feedback after evaluating the teaching quality at the preceptor sites (including specific case write ups). I've been in some absolutely amazing private practices and ERs already! I'm confident that the experience at RVU will ensure we perform well on the boards and the rotation sites will be great teaching sites, too.
PunkmedGirl 10-18-2008, 10:54 PM I'm a current student at RVUCOM and I researched the rotation sites and planned residency sites early on. For any questions, Drs. Smith and Mohr (and Dr. Martin) are the ones who are heading up rotation and residency creation solely - meaning, they aren't teaching faculty; they're responsible for rotation and residency creation in the region.
As far as visiting planned rotation sites and as I already mentioned in my excitement :D, we've all been out with preceptors (as first year med students) at least 3 or so times already; these select "early-visit" sites are likely future rotation sites according to the practicing Drs. with whom I've spoken. We're also formally providing feedback after evaluating the teaching quality at the preceptor sites (including specific case write ups). I've been in some absolutely amazing private practices and ERs already! I'm confident that the experience at RVU will ensure we perform well on the boards and the rotation sites will be great teaching sites, too.
Have they told you guys what residency programs they are working on?? And about how long it will take to get them started??
White Rabbit 10-19-2008, 10:53 AM Have they told you guys what residency programs they are working on?? And about how long it will take to get them started??
Yes and some where they are attempting to create res slots correspond to the hospital list that Gene Genie already posted somewhere 'round here - some of which we are visiting now for early preceptorships (a great component in my opinion). Sorry, I don't have it handy to post right now. My understanding is that we will be rotating (clinical rotations) at those on the list and yet still, some will be residency program sites down the road. Drs. Mohr, Smith, Martin stated that it will take a few years to get those residencies created as it's a lengthy accreditation (Dr. Smith confirmed their goals are dual-accredited positions) and financially challenging process but they say the slots (they say 300 in the Mountain West - with a target goal of 400) will be in-place by the time we are ready to apply. They aren't just working for RVU med students but for DO students as a whole with regard to residencies.
Maybe GG will post and clarify those residency/rotations that are in the works up here on the board again? :D
Airlife91 - feel free to post those locations I sent you again. Also, don't hesitate to reiterate some of that info we discussed. I have to run!
Best of luck everyone! :thumbup:
White Rabbit 10-19-2008, 11:00 AM How long after submitting your secondary were you guys contacted (either interview invite or rejection)?
What percentage of interviewees are accepted?
Thanks!
I believe they are following the approach that if you get an interview, theres a >80% chance (estimate) you'll be accepted - assuming you interview well. Makes sense and its what most of the schools who are considerate of the applicant do as well. I think of those they interviewed last year, they rejected only around 15-20. Of course, that doesn't include those numbers on the waitlist and there were more than 2500 applicants for the inaugural class alone. Anyway, if you get an interview, you've got a better than good shot at an offer. :thumbup:
White Rabbit 10-19-2008, 02:19 PM Have they told you guys what residency programs they are working on?? And about how long it will take to get them started??
To answer more specifically, yes, they have told us. Dr. Smith told me directly that the residency programs will cover the spectrum. Of course, there will be more GP like ER, IM, etc. than surgery but Dr. Smith said they'll have additional rads, gas, and other slots in-place in a couple years. They are well aware of what it takes financially and politically to get those positions accredited and solidified - that's why there are two accomplished DOs (alongside Dr. Martin) who are solely repsonsible for that component. They realize it's no small task - see their CVs - Dr. Smith is former UNTHSC (among other institutions) and Dr. Mohr is former CCOM/Michigan.
As for surgery residencies, from what I've learned there may be a couple in CO Springs (among others - time will tell) according to the resident RVUCOM faculty memeber and cardiothoracic surgeon, Dr. Mahan. There are a number of surgeons and other DOs represented in CO Springs at a hospital (Memorial) where they hope to create such slots. There are more sites in Denver and surrounding areas, too. I just know a bit more about CO Springs thanks to Dr. Mahan. Hope that helps a bit.
PunkmedGirl 10-19-2008, 02:29 PM Yes and some where they are attempting to create res slots correspond to the hospital list that Gene Genie already posted somewhere 'round here - some of which we are visiting now for early preceptorships (a great component in my opinion). Sorry, I don't have it handy to post right now. My understanding is that we will be rotating (clinical rotations) at those on the list and yet still, some will be residency program sites down the road. Drs. Mohr, Smith, Martin stated that it will take a few years to get those residencies created as it's a lengthy accreditation (Dr. Smith confirmed their goals are dual-accredited positions) and financially challenging process but they say the slots (they say 300 in the Mountain West - with a target goal of 400) will be in-place by the time we are ready to apply. They aren't just working for RVU med students but for DO students as a whole with regard to residencies.
Maybe GG will post and clarify those residency/rotations that are in the works up here on the board again? :D
Airlife91 - feel free to post those locations I sent you again. Also, don't hesitate to reiterate some of that info we discussed. I have to run!
Best of luck everyone! :thumbup:
That's wonderful. I know its a ways away but I will be applying to DO residency programs only so with them creating more that means more for me to choose from YAY!!!!!!:D:D
Dissected 10-20-2008, 04:21 PM How far away is RVU from CU's Med school?
gasapple 10-21-2008, 12:21 AM Are you missing me already? I'm just so busy! I'm sure you are too. And, yes, RVUCOM is plain badass. :D
Hello! Yes, so busy here - overwhelming really. Hope all is going well. :D
How far away is RVU from CU's Med school?
I'm not sure but I'd try some MapQuest or something similar - RVUCOM is 4801 S. Chambers in Parker and CU is basically at 9th and Colorado Blvd.
lainey234 10-21-2008, 06:32 AM How far away is RVU from CU's Med school?
It's only about 15-20 minutes away.
Spooner13 10-22-2008, 09:14 AM Hey guys,
I tried to do a search but couldn't find any info on the length of the secondary essays. Mine are each about a page long. Is that too much? The online secondary says to use the character limit provided, but we're supposed to email the essays. I would really appreciate it if anyone could shed some light.
Thanks
stonewall22 10-22-2008, 10:31 AM Hey guys,
I tried to do a search but couldn't find any info on the length of the secondary essays. Mine are each about a page long. Is that too much? The online secondary says to use the character limit provided, but we're supposed to email the essays. I would really appreciate it if anyone could shed some light.
Thanks
There are no set limits, and you're going to a get a bazillion different answers about length. I would just make it long enough to answer the question well, without getting too wordy. With no set character limit I can't imagine a page is too much, especially since they screen so heavily using the secondary app.
Spooner13 10-22-2008, 02:00 PM There are no set limits, and you're going to a get a bazillion different answers about length. I would just make it long enough to answer the question well, without getting too wordy. With no set character limit I can't imagine a page is too much, especially since they screen so heavily using the secondary app.
Thanks Stonewall. I'm very glad to hear this because I didn't want to have to rewrite them.
beeFs 10-24-2008, 01:17 PM Has anyone had trouble getting their LOR from the physician to RVU? I talked to the physician who wrote mine and he said it went out last Tues and I talked to RVU and they still havent received it. It was mailed from OK and Im not sure how long it should take. Starting to get a bit worried.
Airlife91 10-25-2008, 06:28 PM Question for any current RVU students-
What does the calendar look like for breaks during the academic year? Do you just have four days for Thanksgiving? How long is the winter break/spring break? How much time off are you going to have for the summer?
Also, on the breaks that you do have, do you know if you'll have to be studying at all?
thanks!
tallgal0523 10-25-2008, 08:08 PM I just finished applying to Rocky Vista today...I hope I get an interview invite.
beeFs 10-27-2008, 08:13 AM Has anyone had trouble getting their LOR from the physician to RVU? I talked to the physician who wrote mine and he said it went out last Tues and I talked to RVU and they still havent received it. It was mailed from OK and Im not sure how long it should take. Starting to get a bit worried.
Never mind they got it and my file is complete!
libo1369 10-27-2008, 03:23 PM Question for any current RVU students-
What does the calendar look like for breaks during the academic year? Do you just have four days for Thanksgiving? How long is the winter break/spring break? How much time off are you going to have for the summer?
Also, on the breaks that you do have, do you know if you'll have to be studying at all?
thanks!
We have had a couple of holidays off to include Labor day, Rosh Hashanna and Yom Kippur, we have this week off for the AOA conference if we choose to go. We have four days off for Thanksgiving and about three weeks at Christmas. Several other holidays throughout the year and I think though I don't have it in front of me right now about five weeks off during the summer. For Thanksgiving and this week we have finals/exams on the first day back so I believe most of us are spending a good portion of time studying. If you are up on all your information it could really be a break but for those of us that missed classes to study for anatomy ie me I am using it to review the classes that I missed. I hope that helps!
travis
Ranger9879 10-28-2008, 08:08 PM anyone out there interview on 10/21 ? I know we are supposed to hear from them after this week. Could you tell me about your overall RVU experience, what you thought of the interviews? I also heard that they screen hard on who gets an interview and the chances are pretty good after that. Anyone want to chime in and give some input? RVU students are welcome to chime in as well!
Deepa100 10-28-2008, 08:37 PM I am a bit confused about whether these interviews are one-on-one. Or will I be part of a group of interviewees?
lainey234 10-28-2008, 09:53 PM Mine was 2 interviewers at the same time. I can't remember for 100% sure, but I believe it was closed file - they had my secondary essays and my primary, but no gpa/mcat info.
Best of luck to those interviewing. The interview is REALLY low key, so just relax. They did tell us that they only outright rejected ~12 ppl last yr. Everyone else got an acceptance or WL so they heavily screen primaries.
Airlife91 10-28-2008, 10:16 PM Yes, they didn't have any mcat/gpa information. They did have all of my LOR's though, as I was asked specific details from a few of my letters. And it was very laid back and conversational. None of those worthless questions like "describe yourself in three words."
Deepa100 10-29-2008, 02:28 PM Thanks for all the info, but I was asking about "interviewees", not "interviewers" ;) Do they interview more than one person at a time?
Airlife91 10-29-2008, 03:45 PM the interview format was 2 faculty, 1 student. On my interview day there were 7 interviewees, but we all got interviewed one at a time....so no, there was no group interview. It was open file.
stonewall22 10-29-2008, 05:24 PM So, they only rejected ~12 people last year, but was their wait list massive?
Bamish 10-29-2008, 05:58 PM So, they only rejected ~12 people last year, but was their wait list massive?
I think they only rejected 12 people that were interviewed-they heavily screen the people they are going to interview. I would assume the 12 includes all people interviewed and were at some later point rejected.
I'm not sure of course, but I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. :thumbup:
Deepa100 10-29-2008, 08:08 PM the interview format was 2 faculty, 1 student. On my interview day there were 7 interviewees, but we all got interviewed one at a time....so no, there was no group interview. It was open file.
Great, thanks!
White Rabbit 10-29-2008, 09:46 PM My interview last year was with three RVUCOM faculty, was closed file and as comfortable as an interview could be. If you make it conversational, it will be so. :D:thumbup:
thethinman 10-31-2008, 12:44 PM I know people have discussed the secondary but I didn't see an answer to this Q in previous posts: does anyone have a good feel for what they're looking for in the "summarize your PS" question? ...a paragraph, bullets, a few sentences? just not sure how to format a summary.
many thx
Barts 10-31-2008, 02:26 PM I know people have discussed the secondary but I didn't see an answer to this Q in previous posts: does anyone have a good feel for what they're looking for in the "summarize your PS" question? ...a paragraph, bullets, a few sentences? just not sure how to format a summary.
many thx
I can't speak for the RVU secondary, but in general terms I can offer what I did. I didn't do anything in bullets. For similar questions I wrote usually a paragraph or two summarzing what was aksed--basically a good summary of what was aksed that wasn't too long. If I could do it in one paragraph then I did, if it took two, then that's what it took! I'm not saying I was correct to do things this way, but that's how I did it. Good luck! :)
White Rabbit 10-31-2008, 07:20 PM I can't speak for the RVU secondary, but in general terms I can offer what I did. I didn't do anything in bullets. For similar questions I wrote usually a paragraph or two summarzing what was aksed--basically a good summary of what was aksed that wasn't too long. If I could do it in one paragraph then I did, if it took two, then that's what it took! I'm not saying I was correct to do things this way, but that's how I did it. Good luck! :)
Sounds like a reasonable approach. :thumbup:
TeamZissou 11-01-2008, 12:10 PM I think they only rejected 12 people that were interviewed-they heavily screen the people they are going to interview. I would assume the 12 includes all people interviewed and were at some later point rejected.
I'm not sure of course, but I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. :thumbup:
They mentioned this at my interview back in Sept as well. I was waitlisted so its possible that they may utilize their waitlist instead of giving rejections.
Overall it was a positive interview experience though. Good luck!:)
Bamish 11-01-2008, 06:47 PM They mentioned this at my interview back in Sept as well. I was waitlisted so its possible that they may utilize their waitlist instead of giving rejections.
Overall it was a positive interview experience though. Good luck!:)
So I guess the take home message would be: If you manage to get an interview at RVU, you should have a good chance at being accepted?
BTW grats to everyone with an interview!
White Rabbit 11-01-2008, 06:52 PM So I guess the take home message would be: If you manage to get an interview at RVU, you should have a good chance at being accepted?
BTW grats to everyone with an interview!
Yea, I like that approach - I think KCUMB (maybe DMU) does it the same way. Saves everyone a little time, money, and a certain amount of false hope. Didn't mean for that last point to sound negative... :D
Good luck all. :thumbup:
Ranger9879 11-01-2008, 08:53 PM anyone excited or expecting to get a call from RVU this week?
Bamish 11-01-2008, 09:08 PM anyone excited or expecting to get a call from RVU this week?
I take it you are? If so, good luck! :thumbup:
Deepa100 11-02-2008, 06:55 PM What is a typical day like at RVU? What time do classes start and end? Also, where can find the current class schedules?
Thanks!
Deepa100 11-02-2008, 07:18 PM After I read the student hand book and the interview feedback, I am not sure if I still have any questions to ask. Those of you who have interviewed at RVU, did you ask a lot of questions?
westphi 11-03-2008, 12:04 AM After I read the student hand book and the interview feedback, I am not sure if I still have any questions to ask. Those of you who have interviewed at RVU, did you ask a lot of questions?
Not to "get your goat" but in most interview scenarios (regardless of what it is you are interviewing for) a candidate that does not have any questions for their interviewer will more than often appear uninterested or simply under prepared. Ultimately: have questions for the interviewer. If you can not come-up with any...you need to start TRUELY thinking about what it is you are getting yourself into.
Just my 2 cents...:)
lainey234 11-03-2008, 07:53 AM I disagree to some extent with the above poster. Some of the interviews I have been on have been extensive. By the time you do some of your own online research, check interview feedback, go through the finanacial aid presentation, etc - it's hard to come up with an intelligent question that you don't already know the answer to. Of course, I asked questions during my interview as things came up.
I did ask a couple of questions at RVU, specifically about rotations since it is so new and the answer I got was a disturbing..."I don't know".
When asked at other schools if I had any questions, I answered honestly. "Not really, I think we have covered alot. I would like to take a minute and reitirate that I have enjoyed my day here and am really interested in School X because..."
No dumb questions while simultaneously expressing interest.
Ranger9879 11-03-2008, 05:25 PM anyone that interviewed on October 21st hear yet from RVU?
Deepa100 11-03-2008, 06:15 PM I disagree to some extent with the above poster. Some of the interviews I have been on have been extensive. By the time you do some of your own online research, check interview feedback, go through the finanacial aid presentation, etc - it's hard to come up with an intelligent question that you don't already know the answer to. Of course, I asked questions during my interview as things came up.
I did ask a couple of questions at RVU, specifically about rotations since it is so new and the answer I got was a disturbing..."I don't know".
When asked at other schools if I had any questions, I answered honestly. "Not really, I think we have covered alot. I would like to take a minute and reitirate that I have enjoyed my day here and am really interested in School X because..."
No dumb questions while simultaneously expressing interest.
Thank you:luck:
SJonathan 11-03-2008, 07:07 PM Accepted today. LOVED the school.
Ranger9879 11-03-2008, 07:14 PM i think i interviewed with you SJonathan. should i be worried if i didn't get a call today?
SJonathan 11-03-2008, 07:25 PM i think i interviewed with you SJonathan. should i be worried if i didn't get a call today?
I interviewed on the 15th of October. Were you there? It sounds like you interviewed on the 21st...?
Ranger9879 11-03-2008, 07:33 PM yup! the 21st. phewww. i thought you interviewed on the same day as me so i was worried that i didn't get a call. but i guess i will get mine tomorrow maybe. i think that week off for the AOA convention really messed with my head. lol. anyways, congrads and i hope to be your classmate next year!
JE1986 11-04-2008, 01:41 PM I interviewed on the 15th of October. Were you there? It sounds like you interviewed on the 21st...?
Hey I think I interview with you SJonathan. I got the call yesterday too! Are you planning on accepting?
libo1369 11-05-2008, 01:41 PM After I read the student hand book and the interview feedback, I am not sure if I still have any questions to ask. Those of you who have interviewed at RVU, did you ask a lot of questions?
When I interviewed last year I asked the staff interviewing why they chose Rocky Vista as it is a new school. They seemed to be in shock at first but were delighted to answer the question and it showed that there was more to it than the numbers for me. I think anything along those lines are good questions for any school paticularly a new one. Ask what is there favorite thing or who they like to listen to lectures from.
Just a side note here is an article in a local pub about RVUCOM
http://www.cms.org/Magazine/Sept-Oct08.pdf
Deepa100 11-05-2008, 02:31 PM When I interviewed last year I asked the staff interviewing why they chose Rocky Vista as it is a new school. They seemed to be in shock at first but were delighted to answer the question and it showed that there was more to it than the numbers for me. I think anything along those lines are good questions for any school paticularly a new one. Ask what is there favorite thing or who they like to listen to lectures from.
Just a side note here is an article in a local pub about RVUCOM
http://www.cms.org/Magazine/Sept-Oct08.pdf
Thanks, libo1369! That was very bold of you!:thumbup:
LoVEiT 11-06-2008, 03:11 PM I just got a call from RVU inviting for the interview! (i was way late to apply and was reaaaally nervous!). I've gotten an idea that the interview is low key and nothing to worry about, however, could anyone tell me more about their interview experience? What did the interviewers want to know? Was there some specific area they were interested in? Also, since the whole thing lasts 5 hours...what do you get to do besides the interview? Thank you! =)
lincolnparadox 11-06-2008, 03:14 PM I got an interview request! So, I'll be flying out to Denver in December!
At least it will be pretty. :o
Airlife91 11-07-2008, 08:05 AM I just got a call from RVU inviting for the interview! (i was way late to apply and was reaaaally nervous!). I've gotten an idea that the interview is low key and nothing to worry about, however, could anyone tell me more about their interview experience? What did the interviewers want to know? Was there some specific area they were interested in? Also, since the whole thing lasts 5 hours...what do you get to do besides the interview? Thank you! =)
The interview itself is very conversational, but you should still prepare as you would any other interview. Be able to answer the staple questions - why this school? why DO?, etc. I was asked a couple questions that were based directly from my LOR's, so try to think what people may have written about you. I've also spoke with a person who asked questions about current healthcare problems, etc. Mainly they just want to get to know you, and why you want to come to RVU. Obviously their goal is to train physicians who are going to stay in the region and hopefully in a primary care type setting (although they fully acknowledge that a great number of students will go on to practice in all specialities).
The interview day itself does involve a lot of downtime. Numerous students and faculty drop by to see if you have any questions. You get to tour the campus - which is beautiful. This interview is very low stress. If you are really excited about the possibility of going to RVU, make sure and convey this during your interview. And remember, make sure and ask the interviewers questions. Try to get an idea of why they (the interviewers) love RVU. Hearing their responses is one of the things that has made this one of my top choices!
Also, if you haven't been to the Denver Area before, I would take some time to see the area (an extra day would be great). The school itself is on the very southern edge of the metro area, so you can't really get a good feel for denver. But a 20-30 minute drive brings you to downtown denver where there are countless fantastic restaurants and things to do. During my interview one person asked me where the mountains were - and its true, you can't see them from the campus, but a 20 minute drive from the campus will get you into the mountains. And Ski season is under way!
LoVEiT 11-07-2008, 08:17 AM Thanks so much for your answer! I just moved to Denver and I absolutely love it! and the school is fantastic, defintely my first choice and i will make sure to show that! :) Thanks!
JE1986 11-09-2008, 09:46 AM I was just wondering if anyone has made a facebook group for the class of 2013 yet??
Deepa100 11-10-2008, 11:13 AM Did you guys write thank you letters after the interview?
Airlife91 11-10-2008, 01:06 PM No, I didn't write a thank you.
Ranger9879 11-11-2008, 06:37 PM does anyone know if there was waitlist movement last year? also, what are some of the best ways to get off that dreadful waitlist? hope to hear from anyone!
boone95 11-12-2008, 01:29 PM I know of at least 3 people who came in off of the waitlist. I'm sure there were more, but it's at least a sign that the thing moves.
stonewall22 11-15-2008, 06:10 AM Wow, impressive school...I'll know Monday...
brianjg 11-15-2008, 06:34 AM I'm expecting a call on Monday too! I can hardly stand the waiting...I waited all day yesterday for a call too.
Bamish 11-15-2008, 09:28 AM Good luck to both of the above posters! What day did you interview?
stonewall22 11-15-2008, 04:59 PM Good luck to both of the above posters! What day did you interview?
I was there Thursday.
Bamish 11-15-2008, 06:01 PM I was there Thursday.
Only a few days to get a decision--that's nice of them! Well, good luck-hopefully you'll get some good news on Monday!! :)
LoVEiT 11-17-2008, 10:19 AM I am supposed to find out today too! have never been so nervous... !
stonewall22 11-17-2008, 11:08 AM I am supposed to find out today too! have never been so nervous... !
No kidding, wish they'd hurry up with those calls.
LoVEiT 11-17-2008, 01:21 PM have you heard anything yet?
stonewall22 11-17-2008, 01:27 PM have you heard anything yet?
No, good grief. Kerri told us "I'm not even going to cover what ifs because I've read the interview comments and you all did spectacular." Maybe she says that to every group, I don't know. So, she didn't say anything about how we would be notified if not accepted or waitlisted. She just said, "You'll all know Monday." She told us the admissions committee was meeting Friday. So, no email, must be good news? Did she tell you guys how you would be notified if not accepted? I can't imagine they call people they don't accept...I guess there are a lot of explanations, and still time left in the day. She did say that she needed to review all the decisions with Dean Martin before making calls...ugh, I'm getting sick to my stomach.
LoVEiT 11-17-2008, 01:36 PM She told my group the same thing..that we'll get a call on Monday. Well let's keep our fingers crossed! Did you talk to Kerri today? I'm itching to email her!
stonewall22 11-17-2008, 01:56 PM She told my group the same thing..that we'll get a call on Monday. Well let's keep our fingers crossed! Did you talk to Kerri today? I'm itching to email her!
Yeah, I know what you mean, I've been very tempted to email/call her all day. How about you call and let me know what she says? :D
LoVEiT 11-17-2008, 02:12 PM ha ha i just emailed her....could not resist... plus i dont always have service at work so that adds more to my worries..i'll let ya know:)
stonewall22 11-17-2008, 02:38 PM ha ha i just emailed her....could not resist... plus i dont always have service at work so that adds more to my worries..i'll let ya know:)
What day were you there?
ngc76 11-17-2008, 02:42 PM Hey guys-
I interviewed last Wednesday, 11/12 and was told I'd get a call today too. So far.. nothing! What's going on here?!?! :eek:
Airlife91 11-17-2008, 02:53 PM try not to stress too much, if I remember correctly the call came at like 4:50pm Denver time. I was a mess all day waiting for that call. Every time my phone rang my heart stopped.
stonewall22 11-17-2008, 02:53 PM Hey guys-
I interviewed last Wednesday, 11/12 and was told I'd get a call today too. So far.. nothing! What's going on here?!?! :eek:
At least no one's heard...
ngc76 11-17-2008, 02:57 PM try not to stress too much, if I remember correctly the call came at like 4:50pm Denver time. I was a mess all day waiting for that call. Every time my phone rang my heart stopped.
Excellent, thanks AirLife. I'll stave off stressing for another 53 minutes, if I can ;)
Bamish 11-17-2008, 02:58 PM Excellent, thanks AirLife. I'll stave off stressing for another 53 minutes, if I can ;)
Haha. Seriously, good luck to all of you waiting to hear, I hope you all get good news! :)
:thumbup:
stonewall22 11-17-2008, 03:08 PM try not to stress too much, if I remember correctly the call came at like 4:50pm Denver time. I was a mess all day waiting for that call. Every time my phone rang my heart stopped.
Thanks man, my heart stops just thinking about the phone ringing...
LoVEiT 11-17-2008, 03:24 PM Hey guys-
I interviewed last Wednesday, 11/12 and was told I'd get a call today too. So far.. nothing! What's going on here?!?! :eek:
we interviewed same day:) gosh this is nerve wrecking!
Deepa100 11-17-2008, 03:52 PM Interviewed on 11/7 and I am in!
stonewall22 11-17-2008, 03:59 PM Interviewed on 11/7 and I am in!
Did you just hear tonight?
ngc76 11-17-2008, 04:05 PM Finally!!! They just called, 5:05pm, Denver time. I'm in!!!!!!!!!!!
LoVEiT 11-17-2008, 04:06 PM i'm in too!!!!!
stonewall22 11-17-2008, 04:09 PM i'm in too!!!!!
I'm in! What a day!
JE1986 11-17-2008, 04:22 PM Congrats everyone!!!!
brianjg 11-17-2008, 04:39 PM I'm in too! Congrats everyone, maybe we'll all be classmates. Just an aside, does anyone know the official number of applicants?
Bamish 11-17-2008, 04:49 PM Grats to all of you, I'm really excited for you all!
stonewall22 11-17-2008, 04:53 PM I'm in too! Congrats everyone, maybe we'll all be classmates. Just an aside, does anyone know the official number of applicants?
2300 primary as of Thursday.
DocHas 11-18-2008, 03:37 AM I am interviewing on December 7th. Anyone else going to be there?
boone95 11-18-2008, 07:58 AM The 7th is a Sunday.... but if you're there on the 8th, our anatomy chair is lecturing from 10-12, and he's awesome... so if they'll let you sit in on that for a little bit, it's worth it!
Deepa100 11-18-2008, 01:31 PM Just wondering if any one else from 11/7 interview date is here? You guys and girls were a nice bunch and I am just wondering...
Bamish 11-18-2008, 02:34 PM My wife is on the waitlist, she was heartbroken, but is still going to hold out hope that she gets accepted! :)
JE1986 11-18-2008, 05:34 PM Well, my wife talked with Kerri today. She was told that she was "high" up on the waitlist and to not give up hope. My wife was heartbroken, I feel so bad for her. :(
Anyway, I'm not sure what "high" up means, but I guess we'll keep our fingers crossed around here. :(
Well considering the first deposit is due on December 15th and there are probably at least a couple people that will decide to go to other schools, I wouldn't give up hope yet!!!! It's still really early. Hang in there
mooreof14 11-18-2008, 06:17 PM What exactly did you wife's email say. I am wondering because my husband and I got an email saying that they were still considering our application and they would let us know if they came to any conclusion.
lainey234 11-18-2008, 07:54 PM I will be freeing up a space for you this week. Best of luck!
Bamish 11-18-2008, 08:02 PM I will be freeing up a space for you this week. Best of luck!
Well thank you so much! And congrats on getting an acceptance at a school that fit you better! Best of luck to you my friend! :)
Bamish 11-18-2008, 08:04 PM What exactly did you wife's email say. I am wondering because my husband and I got an email saying that they were still considering our application and they would let us know if they came to any conclusion.
I asked my wife about this, and I misunderstood her conversation with Kerri, so I edited my earlier post. I apologize for the misunderstanding, and tell your husband good luck! :) As far as the email, I'm sure hers is the same, I think it's just a standard email sent out in bulk to those who didn't quite make it.
Edit-I believe what she meant was that if she happened to be high up on the wait list, then she might have a good shot. Thought I would explain since I posted incorrect information before. :)
beeFs 11-19-2008, 08:52 AM I have been waitlisted as well......pre-interview
brianjg 11-19-2008, 06:56 PM So, would most of those who are accepted, and or who are current students, choose RVU over maybe a more established school (IE KCOM or CCOM, but others as well)? I do really like RVU, but I won't lie, the newness and lack of fed funds gets me a little nervous.
Also, what are you guys thinking about for paying for school?
Barts 11-20-2008, 09:31 AM So, would most of those who are accepted, and or who are current students, choose RVU over maybe a more established school (IE KCOM or CCOM, but others as well)? I do really like RVU, but I won't lie, the newness and lack of fed funds gets me a little nervous.
Also, what are you guys thinking about for paying for school?
The school was just being finished when I applied (or close to completion), but those are a few of the reasons that I did not bother applying there, and I was from Colorado. I've read in a few places though that the Colorado Board of Medical Examiners (or wha 'ever Colorados licensing board is) currently has the school on the do not pass go list. So, if you are applying you may want to call the state board and verify what's up with licensing.
Dissected 11-20-2008, 02:31 PM The school was just being finished when I applied (or close to completion), but those are a few of the reasons that I did not bother applying there, and I was from Colorado. I've read in a few places though that the Colorado Board of Medical Examiners (or wha 'ever Colorados licensing board is) currently has the school on the do not pass go list. So, if you are applying you may want to call the state board and verify what's up with licensing.
its probably because they are are not fully accredited yet..they wont be until they graduate their first class. This shouldnt be a problem though from what I understand. Maybe this is something entirely different though, anyone have some insight?
boone95 11-20-2008, 03:06 PM So, would most of those who are accepted, and or who are current students, choose RVU over maybe a more established school (IE KCOM or CCOM, but others as well)? Also, what are you guys thinking about for paying for school?
I did choose RVU over a couple other well-established schools. A big reason was that I like the mountains more than the midwest. I also liked/still like going to a brand new school and helping to establish it. We get input on everything, and the faculty listen and adjust anything we inquire about. Sure, there are some things that don't go smooth the first time, but it's been all getting steadily better. The facilities are brand new... it's tough to beat that.
As far as paying for school, there's 2 options that I see.... military scholarship and private loans. I'm doing private loans. It's not a big deal. You have to pay no matter where you go, and private isn't bad.
I don't have a clue what that person was talking about in regards to the 'colorado licensing board...' We had a meeting with the dean last week and things are going great. We are on track to have 3rd/4th year rotations lined up, new residency programs opened in all specialties, and we even got a few simulation patients in last week.
Shruggersphi 11-20-2008, 04:34 PM Did anyone that received an interview ever get an email that said your application would "continue to be re-evaluated?"
I'm assuming that this is a pre-interview hold, but just want to make sure.
Barts 11-20-2008, 05:12 PM I don't have a clue what that person was talking about in regards to the 'colorado licensing board...'
No offense, but perhaps this is something you should have taken upon yourself to look into before enrolling at a school. I'm sure the school paints a nice picture and all, but considering the cost involved, a simple phone call to the state licensing board may have been prudent?
According to :
Colorado Department of
Regulatory Agencies
Division of Registrations
Board of Medical Examiners
RVUCOM is on their list of questionable schools-questionable being schools that graduates from cannot obtain a license in the state of CO, or will have extra "hoops" to jump through in order to obtain a license. RVU is currently the only non-foreign school on this list. Now, like an above poster mentioned, this could perhaps be because they have yet to graduate a class, but if I were applying there I would certainly look into it.
The only other information I was given is that the school is currently aware of this problem.
On that note, I'm done researching this (wasn't really research...a simple google followed by a simple phone call). I only did so because the poster that I quoted seemed too inept to do so themselves. :)
Anyway, I would assume that since it's a for profit school they are going to be VERY motivated to get this resolved asap. But if I were applying there I most certainly would have done enough research to know this, and would have been concerned about it.
OLYWA 11-20-2008, 05:12 PM "Did anyone that received an interview ever get an email that said your application would "continue to be re-evaluated?"
I'm assuming that this is a pre-interview hold, but just want to make sure."
You pose an interesting question...and one that I'm curious about too as I'm in the same 'limbo' position as you.
A thought is that they may pull some of us off this "pre-interview hold" list after December 14...seeing as that's the first day that deposits are due. RVU has a fairly expensive seat deposit fee (2k if I remember correctly) so it's quite possible that a lot of those accepted will pass it up. I'm hoping they do...as I'd really like to be in Denver next year.
Keepin the faith...
stonewall22 11-20-2008, 05:31 PM So, would most of those who are accepted, and or who are current students, choose RVU over maybe a more established school (IE KCOM or CCOM, but others as well)? I do really like RVU, but I won't lie, the newness and lack of fed funds gets me a little nervous.
Also, what are you guys thinking about for paying for school?
I'm thinking of choosing RVU over LECOM...if you have good credit, you can get money, if you don't, then you'll have problems everywhere (Grad Plus depend on credit).
stonewall22 11-20-2008, 05:35 PM "Did anyone that received an interview ever get an email that said your application would "continue to be re-evaluated?"
I'm assuming that this is a pre-interview hold, but just want to make sure."
You pose an interesting question...and one that I'm curious about too as I'm in the same 'limbo' position as you.
A thought is that they may pull some of us off this "pre-interview hold" list after December 14...seeing as that's the first day that deposits are due. RVU has a fairly expensive seat deposit fee (2k if I remember correctly) so it's quite possible that a lot of those accepted will pass it up. I'm hoping they do...as I'd really like to be in Denver next year.
Keepin the faith...
It's $500...
boone95 11-21-2008, 08:02 AM No offense, but perhaps this is something you should have taken upon yourself to look into before enrolling at a school.
According to :
Colorado Department of
Regulatory Agencies
Division of Registrations
Board of Medical Examiners
RVUCOM is on their list of questionable schools-questionable being schools that graduates from cannot obtain a license in the state of CO,
According to the exact same source, RVUCOM was "granted preliminary state authorization." That means there isn't a problem. Yes, it's preliminary, but as everyone knows, the 'preliminary' part goes away after the first class graduates. For the skeptical, read it for yourself at http://highered.colorado.gov/CCHE/Meetings/2007/feb/feb07agenda4b.pdf
Let's be realistic: is a school going to graduate 160 students who can't practice?
No sense in fabricating problems when everything is going smoothly.
And for those of you who have questions about your "still being reviewed" letters: just email someone in admissions. It'll scare you how nice they are! Good luck!
Barts 11-21-2008, 09:04 AM According to the exact same source, RVUCOM was "granted preliminary state authorization." That means there isn't a problem. Yes, it's preliminary, but as everyone knows, the 'preliminary' part goes away after the first class graduates. For the skeptical, read it for yourself at http://highered.colorado.gov/CCHE/Meetings/2007/feb/feb07agenda4b.pdf
Let's be realistic: is a school going to graduate 160 students who can't practice?
No sense in fabricating problems when everything is going smoothly.
And for those of you who have questions about your "still being reviewed" letters: just email someone in admissions. It'll scare you how nice they are! Good luck!
I just glanced at your link, but there doesn't appear to be anything in your post or link that pertains to licensure by the state of Colorado. It only pertains to being recognized as a school by the state of CO. While I agree (which was stated in my earlier post) that any school, especially a for profit school, would want to have the licensing issue resolved asap, your post/link does not mention that issue (especially from the governing body--which I listed in my above post and is different from what the source you linked) Anyway, you are talking about accrediation as an educational institution, I am talking about the governing body which issues a license to practice medicine in the state of Colorado--these are two different things.
If you really want to see what I am speaking about, just call the licensing board that I listed above and ask them, they will tell you that currently RVU is a questionable school and graduates could face problems obtaining a license to practice medicine in the state.
I'm not bashing your school so don't take it personally. Someone earlier asked about reasons why one may or may not pick RVU, so I replied with a few of the reasons I didn't even consider the school when I was applying.
Obviously you don't have the same concerns with the school as I did, which is fine, but that doesn't change the fact that currently the licensing board does have RVU listed as questionable.
Anyway, I'm done talking about this, I just don't care enough about the school to continue. Good luck to you though! :)
Shruggersphi 11-21-2008, 11:39 AM Yeah, I already emailed admissions. I'll post the response when I get it :)
toot45 11-21-2008, 05:15 PM Look at our faculty list and you will see that RVU is basically LECOM + TCOM
The chair for the first two years was the curriculum chair of TCOM and the chair for anatomy was chair from LECOM just to name a few.
I would choose RVU over many of the other schools as well.
Good luck to everyone and choose the school that feels right for you.
Monkey33304 11-23-2008, 07:47 PM Interviewed Mon 11/17 & got a call the Thursday night after @ 7pm EST...
after seeing this school, I was really excited about the location/curriculum!
However after doing A LOT of research on the schools to which I have been accepted, I am now a little worried. It seems that a lot of ppl (current DO's and DO medical students) are upset that this school is allowed to function as a for-profit school. I'm just afraid that this may negatively affect me in the future... residencies... practicing?
Any input on this???
I would love to go... CO is so beautiful, but I don't want to take a risk in the medical school I decide on.
Es Pontas 11-23-2008, 09:00 PM I was also a little bit concerned but every person that is affiliated with the school is absolutely in love with. My biggest concern was whether or not there would be enough opportunities to get into anesthesiology or other specialties but other people have mentioned that there are over 300 residency spots already set up in almost every specialty (or in the process). Also, its medical school. At the end of it all, you'll still be a doctor regardless of where you go.
stonewall22 11-24-2008, 06:49 AM Interviewed Mon 11/17 & got a call the Thursday night after @ 7pm EST...
after seeing this school, I was really excited about the location/curriculum!
However after doing A LOT of research on the schools to which I have been accepted, I am now a little worried. It seems that a lot of ppl (current DO's and DO medical students) are upset that this school is allowed to function as a for-profit school. I'm just afraid that this may negatively affect me in the future... residencies... practicing?
Any input on this???
I would love to go... CO is so beautiful, but I don't want to take a risk in the medical school I decide on.
I was really impressed with RVU. It wasn't my first choice pre-interview, but it might be now, I don't know. Speaking with doctors off SDN, most couldn't care less if RVU is for-profit or not, so I'd be cautious in using SDN as a de facto source of information.
Monkey33304 11-24-2008, 06:59 AM my info was also coming from the AOA website... the AOA explains that this school will be just as credible as the rest, but under that, many DO's give their opinion... and they don't seem too happy. I don't really understand why they care. They think we can buy our way into this school or something (I definitely did not!). Not really sure who/what to believe at this point.. I just wish this school was a little older with successful graduates as to ease my concerns
Dissected 11-24-2008, 12:53 PM has anyone been reading the thread in the med-student forum (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=566379)? I had no idea this was such a hot topic in the profession... Im seriously debating whether to even interview here or not!!!
stonewall22 11-24-2008, 12:58 PM has anyone been reading the thread in the med-student forum (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=566379)? I had no idea this was such a hot topic in the profession... Im seriously debating whether to even interview here or not!!!
Here's my advice: I've read it, and some of it is wrong, some of it it is right. I would do my own research if I were you, which doesn't include SDN...it's an anonymous board for petes sake. Anyway, I had some concerns about the school, but really liked the location, so I interviewed. I must say I was VERY impressed by the everything about the school. I haven't felt as welcomed at any school, the facilities are better than any school I've seen, and this is the only school where the administration and interviewers weren't trying to convince me to come to the school, rather they encouraged me to determine if RVU is the best choice for me. So, I would interview and ask them the hard questions you have.
Dissected 11-24-2008, 01:50 PM Here's my advice: I've read it, and some of it is wrong, some of it it is right. I would do my own research if I were you, which doesn't include SDN...it's an anonymous board for petes sake. Anyway, I had some concerns about the school, but really liked the location, so I interviewed. I must say I was VERY impressed by the everything about the school. I haven't felt as welcomed at any school, the facilities are better than any school I've seen, and this is the only school where the administration and interviewers weren't trying to convince me to come to the school, rather they encouraged me to determine if RVU is the best choice for me. So, I would interview and ask them the hard questions you have.
you're advice is probably sound..here's another tough question though. I have been accepted at a couple of schools where I would love to go and am expecting to hear from 3 others in the next few weeks... Im debating whether the flight/hotel/another school to consider putting a deposit down is worth it, especially since the deposits are due for my acceptances on december 15th and Ill probably have made a final decision between all 5 schools by then. If the deposits weren't so much ca$h I would probably not even question going. i know nobody can answer for me but does anyone have any thoughts? Is RVU potentially worth the extra $1000 deposit??
stonewall22 11-24-2008, 02:00 PM you're advice is probably sound..here's another tough question though. I have been accepted at a couple of schools where I would love to go and am expecting to hear from 3 others in the next few weeks... Im debating whether the flight/hotel/another school to consider putting a deposit down is worth it, especially since the deposits are due for my acceptances on december 15th and Ill probably have made a final decision between all 5 schools by then. If the deposits weren't so much ca$h I would probably not even question going. i know nobody can answer for me but does anyone have any thoughts? Is RVU potentially worth the extra $1000 deposit??
Having seen the school, it would be worth the risk of $1000 to me...however, that being said, only you can decide. If you've been accepted to other schools you totally love, then it may not be worth interviewing at another school. For me it was a moot point, RVU is within driving distance from my home, so it wasn't an expensive decision for me, but I'm glad I went. A couple things mentioned on those other threads that are just not true (and there are others), clinical rotation sites are already in place, more than year in advance. 96 will stay in the Denver area, some will go to the two hospitals in Colorado Springs (1600 beds total), some will go to Grand Junction (there's actually a DO hospital in Grand Junction), and a few to Pueblo. In total, there are commitments for 10000 beds worth of hospitals, that's an impressive number. Residencies are being developed, that being said, they're not there yet. They seemed confident they could develop them, others seem skeptical (not at the school, but here on SDN), so who knows who's right about those.
Monkey33304 11-24-2008, 02:38 PM So even if the all the SDN /AOA skeptics are wrong about RVU (getting a solid education/good rotations)... do you think that since this is such a hot debated issue, that there will be kind of a divide b/w students from for-profit schools & not for-profit schools that could affect getting a residency/job in the future?
After seeing the school for myself, I don't see how you couldnt get a quality education here, with all the great profs taken from other established schools, state of the art technology, & integrated curriculum. The only thing I am worried about is if i will be frowned upon by other DO's & students from going here. seems kinda ridiculous... but this is really making me second guess going here. :confused:
Dissected 11-24-2008, 02:41 PM So even if the all the SDN /AOA skeptics are wrong about RVU (getting a solid education/good rotations)... do you think that since this is such a hot debated issue, that there will be kind of a divide b/w students from for-profit schools & not for-profit schools that could affect getting a residency/job in the future?
After seeing the school for myself, I don't see how you couldnt get a quality education here, with all the great profs taken from other established schools, state of the art technology, & integrated curriculum. The only thing I am worried about is if i will be frowned upon by other DO's & students from going here. seems kinda ridiculous... but this is really making me second guess going here. :confused:
Its hard for me to believe that the graduates would suffer straight out of school...I don't think anyone's beef is with the students, or at least it certainly shouldn't be!
LoVEiT 11-24-2008, 02:44 PM I have a question for those who are already enrolled at RVU... how was the whole financing situation? was it hard to get private loans for such huge amount? what do you think the average debt students will graduate with will be? thanks!
Monkey33304 11-24-2008, 03:01 PM Its hard for me to believe that the graduates would suffer straight out of school...I don't think anyone's beef is with the students, or at least it certainly shouldn't be!
Yea I definitely don't think it should be either! but from what ive read... a lot of DO's/current DO students arent happy about RVU.
For the current RVU students or those who have accepted their spot at RVU this year... what other schools accepted you & why did you choose RVU over those schools?
Thanks!!
AnxiousMango 11-24-2008, 03:09 PM has anyone been reading the thread in the med-student forum (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=566379)? I had no idea this was such a hot topic in the profession... Im seriously debating whether to even interview here or not!!!
thanks for the link DoktorB... this is something anyone considering this school should be aware of. you can argue all you want (and rightly so) that RVU students will be held to the same standards as everyone else, but that means jack if the perception of the wider medical community is negative. sure, in a perfect world, the people interviewing RVU students for future residency spots wouldn't view RVU in a negative light, but i think that's assuming a lot. i'd rather not take that chance, personally. i'm not sure if i will interview here...
brianjg 11-24-2008, 03:26 PM I don't know if this helps, but here are links for a debate that appeared in the Journal of the American Osteopathic Association. I would imagine these links have been posted elsewhere here on SDN, but nonetheless, the may be os some interest. The first is a letter from Dr. George Mychaskiw, II, DO, challenging the for-profit, etc. status of the school. The second is a response from Dr. Ronnie B Martin, DO, dean at RVU. The articles are a little dated but they due contain some interesting information. An internet search about these issues on Google gets quite a few hits, and there is a nice link on the RVU-COM website addressing both the for-profit status and the link (or lack thereof) to the American University of the Caribbean. The third link listed takes you to the RVU portion of the website addressing the for-profit/AUC issue. Hope this helps. I too am debating/asking the same questions.
http://www.jaoa.org/cgi/content/full/107/7/246-b
http://www.jaoa.org/cgi/content/full/108/8/458
http://www.rockyvistauniversity.org/for_profit.asp
Airlife91 11-24-2008, 04:01 PM The only thing I am worried about is if i will be frowned upon by other DO's & students from going here. seems kinda ridiculous... but this is really making me second guess going here. :confused:
This is a concern that I also had, until speaking with a couple of current RVU students. Granted, they're going to be biased, but they still brought up valid points. Getting a good residency relies mostly on board scores and how you do in rotations - especially rotations where you're informally interviewing for a residency position. Unless it's a super competitive in-house ivy league program most residency program directors won't be biased against RVU. The students I've spoken with have already been shadowing in the ER and primary care offices and they have all been received very well by docs and other hospital staff - nothing negative.
As for others frowning upon students/graduates of RVU, I personally don't think this will be a problem. I have spoken with numerous docs in the Denver area and not one of them had a negative impression of the school. Most were excited that there are more opportunities for education in the area. A few even said that they wanted to teach at the school.
Without question there is a certain degree of risk associated with the school. The funding, inevitable growing pains, etc. I had the same concerns, but after speaking with current students and practicing docs in the area, I am confident that it is the school for me. I love the area, loved the campus, and the faculty/admin that I met were great. Try and research the school as much as possible. Speak with students and the administration as much as possible. As other's have pointed out, most of the faculty is coming from well-established schools with great reputations. One of the curriculum directors previously taught at TCOM, where their board pass rate was 99%. Things like this helped decide that RVU was for me, and that is why I am going to put down a deposit.
I was waitlisted at DMU. That place was awesome, and I got a very good feeling there. If I had been accepted there, I would've had a very difficult time deciding between the two. But since I wasn't, the decision was easy.
Dissected 11-24-2008, 05:20 PM Things like this helped decide that RVU was for me, and that is why I am going to put down a deposit.
Go for it man! I look forward to being a fellow DO with you in the future, regardless of what people will say about where you go to school. You'll get a great education there for sure, Im not gonna hold it against you! best of luck!!
boone95 11-26-2008, 10:43 AM Wow, there's a lot going on here. I'll give you my view as an RVU student.
1. How do others view an RVU student, coming from a for-profit school?
It's true, there are some people who have trouble accepting the for-profit school. However, their issue is with the concept, no with the students. I highly doubt you'll find ANYONE who treats an RVU student lesser just because of the funding of the school. The thought hasn't crossed my mind. I am not one bit worried about it, and you shouldn't be either. I'll be happy to discuss this more and more, especially as we do more rotations, but I'm telling you, it's nothing to worry about.
2. Debt
Our debt is around the average for DO schools. Nothing you can really do to avoid it unless you get 1 of 3 full-rides or go military. I think the average after graduation will be around 200K.
3. Residencies
True, they aren't 'official' yet. For a good reason though. If they establish them right now, they go away when students don't enter them... and since we haven't graduated anyone, they won't fill up. So right now they are lining everything up (in every speciality), and by the time we're ready for them, they'll be opened and 'official.' Again, no worries here. It is phenomenal how much support we have from area hospitals.
4. RVU vs. others
This is completely up to each individual. I was picky when I applied and was accepted to both RVU and DMU. I liked the RVU location, philosophies, staff, facilities, and potential. That's just me. So yeah, I'd say the deposit was more than worth it. Don't get me wrong, I loved DMU a lot. RVU was just a better fit for me.
I hope this helps a little. Fire away more questions if I missed something or if you just don't agree with me. I just want everyone to have the right info about RVU so you can make the choice that is best for you.
Go eat some turkey.
Dissected 11-26-2008, 11:10 AM Go eat some turkey.
Will do!
Thanks for the perspective! Is it snowing there? I heard rumors...
Bamish 11-26-2008, 12:13 PM Will do!
Thanks for the perspective! Is it snowing there? I heard rumors...
Not snowing here at the moment. Actually, I think most of our snow comes in March. Of course that's not saying we don't get snow in the Nov.-Feb. range also, just more in March. ;)
Anyway, have a great Thanksgiving everyone!! :)
Instatewaiter 11-27-2008, 07:56 AM Is RVU potentially worth the extra $1000 deposit??
If you already have acceptances elsewhere, no.
. A couple things mentioned on those other threads that are just not true (and there are others), clinical rotation sites are already in place, more than year in advance. 96 will stay in the Denver area, some will go to the two hospitals in Colorado Springs (1600 beds total), some will go to Grand Junction (there's actually a DO hospital in Grand Junction), and a few to Pueblo. In total, there are commitments for 10000 beds worth of hospitals, that's an impressive number.
All you can really say for sure is that the administration has told you that they already have spots for the students. Until someone has gone through them you cannot say for sure that they are already in place. A lot can change in 2 years.
Furthermore, it takes years and years to iron out the kinks in rotations. I for one wouldn't want to be the guinea pig as these problems get resolved.
3rd and 4th year is not like the pre-clinical years where all you need is a projector and some seating and a guy who knows enough to teach first or second years.
The fact that RVU lists so many hospitals is actually not a positive. It means that they struggled to find one home hospital and all they could come up with is small agreements with tons of hospitals. I counted 24 hospitals listed on their website.
Each of these hospitals will have very few students rotating through it in a given year and so the kinks will not be worked out as quickly. Furthermore, it leads me to believe that the hospitals were reluctant to dole out too many spots to RVU. With fewer promised, it would be easier for them to renege on their deal. I'm not saying these wont come through but if you have other options, do you really want to risk it?
thanks for the link DoktorB... this is something anyone considering this school should be aware of. you can argue all you want (and rightly so) that RVU students will be held to the same standards as everyone else, but that means jack if the perception of the wider medical community is negative. sure, in a perfect world, the people interviewing RVU students for future residency spots wouldn't view RVU in a negative light, but i think that's assuming a lot. i'd rather not take that chance, personally. i'm not sure if i will interview here...
A few things to note: Most DO students opt to go to MD residencies.
How do you thingk residency program directors are going to react to a for-profit DO school with ties to an owner of a carribean school?
Already the most competitive residencies are all but closed to DO students because many of those programs view DO schools as inferior due to variable clinicals and lower standards. If you dont believe me look at the match data for the most competitive programs: Neurosurg, Ophtho, ENT, Uro, Derm. Look at match data for good programs in less competitive programs. Hell look for threads on SDN asking for DO friendly rotations and residencies.
In a perfect world everyone would be judged by their accomplishments but in the real world this isnt entirely true. Make your decision wisely.
Dissected 11-27-2008, 09:07 AM If you already have acceptances elsewhere, no.
In a perfect world everyone would be judged by their accomplishments but in the real world this isnt entirely true. Make your decision wisely.
Thanks. something to chew on for sure.
Bamish 11-27-2008, 10:26 AM If you already have acceptances elsewhere, no.
All you can really say for sure is that the administration has told you that they already have spots for the students. Until someone has gone through them you cannot say for sure that they are already in place. A lot can change in 2 years.
Furthermore, it takes years and years to iron out the kinks in rotations. I for one wouldn't want to be the guinea pig as these problems get resolved.
3rd and 4th year is not like the pre-clinical years where all you need is a projector and some seating and a guy who knows enough to teach first or second years.
The fact that RVU lists so many hospitals is actually not a positive. It means that they struggled to find one home hospital and all they could come up with is small agreements with tons of hospitals. I counted 24 hospitals listed on their website.
Each of these hospitals will have very few students rotating through it in a given year and so the kinks will not be worked out as quickly. Furthermore, it leads me to believe that the hospitals were reluctant to dole out too many spots to RVU. With fewer promised, it would be easier for them to renege on their deal. I'm not saying these wont come through but if you have other options, do you really want to risk it?
A few things to note: Most DO students opt to go to MD residencies.
How do you thingk residency program directors are going to react to a for-profit DO school with ties to an owner of a carribean school?
Already the most competitive residencies are all but closed to DO students because many of those programs view DO schools as inferior due to variable clinicals and lower standards. If you dont believe me look at the match data for the most competitive programs: Neurosurg, Ophtho, ENT, Uro, Derm. Look at match data for good programs in less competitive programs. Hell look for threads on SDN asking for DO friendly rotations and residencies.
In a perfect world everyone would be judged by their accomplishments but in the real world this isnt entirely true. Make your decision wisely.
Thanks for the thoughts on this subject. Since I've been reading and learning more about the school, the more concerns I have. I guess what it boils down to is to pick a school your not only comfortable at, but confident in, since you really can't go back and just do it all again at a "better" school after 4 years. So, I guess it's best to pick the right school the first time and not have regrets years down the road.
This thread has some good information to mull over, and all of the differing views and opinions are appreciated. Thanks everyone! :thumbup:
Edit- "better" is pretty subjective and can be based on numerous things I'm sure. Just wanted to clarify that I wasn't trying to start any flames. :)
toot45 11-27-2008, 07:23 PM can we please get back to helping eachother out with interviewing agendas?
get over the "for profit status"
it doesnt mean anything.
happy thanksgiving
Bamish 11-27-2008, 08:03 PM can we please get back to helping eachother out with interviewing agendas?
get over the "for profit status"
it doesnt mean anything.
happy thanksgiving
Actually, this is the discussion thread for the school, so what better place to discuss the school? And while you believe that the "for profit status" doesn't mean anything, that doesn't make it the feeling of everyone in the medical community. And in the same token, I realize that not everyone will be concerned by some of these potential issues. :)
I have found this thread very informative and it has brought to light some concerns that I feel I should at least look into and not just simply dismiss.
Anyway, I wish you a Happy Thanksgiving as well! :)
Instatewaiter 11-28-2008, 06:52 AM .
scpod 11-28-2008, 10:12 AM Actually, this is the discussion thread for the school, so what better place to discuss the school?
This thread is intended to be used by those who have a desire to attend the school to get general types of info and discuss interviews, etc. It is NOT a place for battling over the "profit" issue. There are already plenty of threads discussing that. Use those if you wish.
I don't like be the bad guy, buy anyone who keeps bringing this discussion up in this thread will be infracted. You guys know who you are. Stay out of the thread.
Bamish 11-28-2008, 11:31 AM This thread is intended to be used by those who have a desire to attend the school to get general types of info and discuss interviews, etc. It is NOT a place for battling over the "profit" issue. There are already plenty of threads discussing that. Use those if you wish.
I don't like be the bad guy, buy anyone who keeps bringing this discussion up in this thread will be infracted. You guys know who you are. Stay out of the thread.
So, as the spouse of a potential student/current applicant at the school (and in turn a future applicant myself) I feel I'm voicing my concerns in exactly the place I should be- with others who may have researched it more and may be current students, current applicants, or future applicants.
And I'm not sure if your comment was directed towards me or not, but I really don't feel as though I was "battling" with anyone over the for profit issue, especially since it was not my intention to battle with anyone.
Really, you say this thread is for general types of information and interviews, which would seem to include it's for profit status. It is brought up at their interviews- in the same speech given about the financial aid system. So, should the financial aid of the school also not be discussed?
I'm sure there are other threads regarding the for profit status of the school. And I'm sure many of the people in those threads have no interest in the school, they are just voicing their concerns. Having a wife that has applied, being from Colorado, and being a possible future applicant, I would like to get the views of the current students, and potential applicants about the school...all aspects of the school, not just some. I didn't even realize it until this holiday break, but some of these concerns are one reason my sister-in-law didn't apply to the school, which has me even more intrigued. I would like to make sure that my wife and I make a decision that we are going to be happy with. If current students or applicants can help with that, or offer any information I might not know (especially any info that could ease my concerns) I'm appreciative, not argumentative.
The schools status and the potential future implications of it currently concern me. I realize others may not have this same concern and respect that. My concern may turn out to be unfounded and my wife and I end up attending the school. However, it would be nice to hear what other applicants and current students think about this. Which thread should I look to for that if not the schools discussion thread. As I said, these are things that are addressed at their interviews, which you state this thread is for. :confused:
PunkmedGirl 11-28-2008, 12:50 PM So, as the spouse of a potential student/current applicant at the school (and in turn a future applicant myself) I feel I'm voicing my concerns in exactly the place I should be- with others who may have researched it more and may be current students, current applicants, or future applicants.
And I'm not sure if your comment was directed towards me or not, but I really don't feel as though I was "battling" with anyone over the for profit issue, especially since it was not my intention to battle with anyone.
Really, you say this thread is for general types of information and interviews, which would seem to include it's for profit status. It is brought up at their interviews- in the same speech given about the financial aid system. So, should the financial aid of the school also not be discussed?
I'm sure there are other threads regarding the for profit status of the school. And I'm sure many of the people in those threads have no interest in the school, they are just voicing their concerns. Having a wife that has applied, being from Colorado, and being a possible future applicant, I would like to get the views of the current students, and potential applicants about the school...all aspects of the school, not just some. I didn't even realize it until this holiday break, but some of these concerns are one reason my sister-in-law didn't apply to the school, which has me even more intrigued. I would like to make sure that my wife and I make a decision that we are going to be happy with. If current students or applicants can help with that, or offer any information I might not know (especially any info that could ease my concerns) I'm appreciative, not argumentative.
The schools status and the potential future implications of it currently concern me. I realize others may not have this same concern and respect that. My concern may turn out to be unfounded and my wife and I end up attending the school. However, it would be nice to hear what other applicants and current students think about this. Which thread should I look to for that if not the schools discussion thread. As I said, these are things that are addressed at their interviews, which you state this thread is for. :confused:
What you are saying is true and you are allowed to ask those questions as a potential applicant to RVU. But your questions are not being answered by current students at RVU or individuals who are interested in the school but by students who opposed the "for-profit" status thus having NO interest in the school and don't even attend RVU for that matter. So for those students who oppose the for-profit status and want to voice their opinions on the subject need to post that in the appropriate threads not this one. I could be wrong but that's what I take from it. :)
Bamish 11-28-2008, 01:21 PM What you are saying is true and you are allowed to ask those questions as a potential applicant to RVU. But your questions are not being answered by current students at RVU or individuals who are interested in the school but by students who opposed the "for-profit" status thus having NO interest in the school and don't even attend RVU for that matter. So for those students who oppose the for-profit status and want to voice their opinions on the subject need to post that in the appropriate threads not this one. I could be wrong but that's what I take from it. :)
Gothca. The way you said it makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up for me, it's appreciated! :)
Instatewaiter 11-28-2008, 05:28 PM .
Deepa100 11-30-2008, 07:55 AM I really like Denver area but after hearing all these discussions, I am not so sure if I want to attend RVU. So sad:(
Bamish 11-30-2008, 09:15 AM I really like Denver area but after hearing all these discussions, I am not so sure if I want to attend RVU. So sad:(
This was really our top choice since we live in Colorado. But, I want to make sure we make the best choice for our future. There are enough schools out there without any stigmata that now I'm starting to second-guess our initial plans, and I'm starting to look at other schools more seriously. I love CO, but there are other schools where some of these potential issues wouldn't even be a thought.
This is a big decision and one that shouldn't be taken lightly. I would rather research the school and any potential problems now, rather than find out in a few years that I should have chosen a different school. There is too much money and time involved to make a hasty decision.
Anyway, I know the feeling your currently experiencing. We have lived here for years and felt excited at first, but the excitement has changed from excitement to concern, so....I know just how you're feeling.
Good luck to you.
Airlife91 11-30-2008, 11:21 AM This was really our top choice since we live in Colorado. But, I want to make sure we make the best choice for our future. There are enough schools out there without any stigmata that now I'm starting to second-guess our initial plans, and I'm starting to look at other schools more seriously. I love CO, but there are other schools where some of these potential issues wouldn't even be a thought.
This is a big decision and one that shouldn't be taken lightly. I would rather research the school and any potential problems now, than find out in a few years that I should have chosen a different school. There is too much money and time involved to make a hasty decision.
Anyway, I know the feeling your currently experiencing. We have lived here for years and felt excited at first, but the excitement has changed from excitement to concern, so....I know just how you're feeling.
Good luck to you.
Your concerns are valid and well founded. For me, staying in Colorado was extremely attractive. Combining that with the top notch facilities, and the overall feeling I got from the school was more than enough to feel confident that attending RVU was the right decision for me.
I do, however, still get concerned when reading posts on SDN concerning the possible negative ramifications of for-profit status, newness of the school, etc. These concerns have been eased after talking with numerous current students, faculty, and Denver area physicians and other medical professionals. My experience, when talking to these people, has been overwhelmingly positive. The prospect of more medical education in the region excites most people a whole lot more than the for-profit status scares them. My personal feeling is that when RVU starts placing students in residencies all of the concerns with their tax designation will likely go away. That is my own personal feeling. I could be wrong. Is going to RVU over a more extablished, nonprofit school a gamble? Yes. However, after extensive research, I don't feel it is that much of a gamble. If I do well on the boards, and make good impressions during my rotations, the tax status and newness of the school should not be much of an obstacle in getting a competitive residency.
Granted, I know that growing pains with the school and rotations are inevitable and that these issues would likely not occur at a place like DMU. However, the reputations of the faculty and administration make me confident that my education will be great.
bioteach 11-30-2008, 11:32 AM I really like Denver area but after hearing all these discussions, I am not so sure if I want to attend RVU. So sad:(
Its worth considering because you are dropping over $200,000 on your education. I lived in Denver and my husband had a wonderful job there and all of our friends were there. We really really didn't want to leave. However, I didn't get into CU but I didn't apply to RVU. I was thrilled initially when I heard a DO school was opening in Colorado, but ultimately disappointed at the direction it chose.
I am certain I would have gotten in, but it wasn't worth it. We moved to Toledo, Ohio (believe me, not my ideal location!) because I valued my education over my location for 4 years.
Just my 2 cents for all the applicants.
Bamish 11-30-2008, 03:42 PM Its worth considering because you are dropping over $200,000 on your education. I lived in Denver and my husband had a wonderful job there and all of our friends were there. We really really didn't want to leave. However, I didn't get into CU but I didn't apply to RVU. I was thrilled initially when I heard a DO school was opening in Colorado, but ultimately disappointed at the direction it chose.
I am certain I would have gotten in, but it wasn't worth it. We moved to Toledo, Ohio (believe me, not my ideal location!) because I valued my education over my location for 4 years.
Just my 2 cents for all the applicants.
This pretty much sums up my sentiment at the moment. I guess I have some more research to do to ensure the best choice is made.
Anyway, we had a retired greyhound and you're right, they do rock! She was with us until she was about 13, but cancer got the best of her. She was one of the sweetest dogs I've ever had.
stonewall22 11-30-2008, 06:25 PM This pretty much sums up my sentiment at the moment. I guess I have some more research to do to ensure the best choice is made.
Anyway, we had a retired greyhound and you're right, they do rock! She was with us until she was about 13, but cancer got the best of her. She was one of the sweetest dogs I've ever had.
I think you owe it to yourself that SDN not be your biggest source of information. I've spoken with numerous doctors who couldn't care less whether or not RVU is for profit or no.
Bamish 11-30-2008, 06:56 PM I think you owe it to yourself that SDN not be your biggest source of information. I've spoken with numerous doctors who couldn't care less whether or not RVU is for profit or no.
I appreciate the suggestion. Actually I took it upon myself to call the state licensing board (as someone in this thread suggested) earlier in the month. I was told exactly what someone posted- that the school is currently on a "questionable" list- meaning it's students would either not be able to obtain a license in the state, or best case scenario, extra hoops would need to be jumped through. So, I am doing further research, which honestly just raises further concerns.
While I'm sure the above issue will be resolved in time, it's just something that sent up red flags for me. It was the only U.S. school on the list, so I'm sure the other DO schools don't face this issue. Which just leads me back to the thought of "there are a lot of other schools", and that it may be wiser to choose one where such things would never even be a thought.
Really, I guess I'm just becoming not only more concerned, but more disappointed as well. Being from CO we were really looking forward to this school. I'm not saying the school won't be great mind you. I'm just not sure if I/we want to be the guinea pig in the experiment--especially when there are so many other choices out there.
So anyway, I'm not basing my concerns solely off of SDN. SDN does however offer me some general ideas of things that I may be wise to look into now rather than later (regarding the school).
I of course realize that there are many people attending or considering (myself and wife included) the school. I think it's great that they have decided that these issues aren't worth worrying about. But I'm just not that type of person- I would just end up worrying if I didn't get answers now. :) And like I've said before, perhaps some of my concerns are unwarranted and will amount to nothing. But if I didn't look into things now, I would just worry myself to death later. ;)
Anyway, I appreciate your advice, it's solid. :)
Thanks. :)
stonewall22 12-01-2008, 04:19 AM I appreciate the suggestion. Actually I took it upon myself to call the state licensing board (as someone in this thread suggested) earlier in the month. I was told exactly what someone posted- that the school is currently on a "questionable" list- meaning it's students would either not be able to obtain a license in the state, or best case scenario, extra hoops would need to be jumped through. So, I am doing further research, which honestly just raises further concerns.
While I'm sure the above issue will be resolved in time, it's just something that sent up red flags for me. It was the only U.S. school on the list, so I'm sure the other DO schools don't face this issue. Which just leads me back to the thought of "there are a lot of other schools", and that it may be wiser to choose one where such things would never even be a thought.
Really, I guess I'm just becoming not only more concerned, but more disappointed as well. Being from CO we were really looking forward to this school. I'm not saying the school won't be great mind you. I'm just not sure if I/we want to be the guinea pig in the experiment--especially when there are so many other choices out there.
So anyway, I'm not basing my concerns solely off of SDN. SDN does however offer me some general ideas of things that I may be wise to look into now rather than later (regarding the school).
I of course realize that there are many people attending or considering (myself and wife included) the school. I think it's great that they have decided that these issues aren't worth worrying about. But I'm just not that type of person- I would just end up worrying if I didn't get answers now. :) And like I've said before, perhaps some of my concerns are unwarranted and will amount to nothing. But if I didn't look into things now, I would just worry myself to death later. ;)
Anyway, I appreciate your advice, it's solid. :)
Thanks. :)
Well, I'm in a similar situation. I loved the school when I interviewed, think it would be a great opportunity. Don't know if I want to take the chance though. It actually makes me really mad...if people would stop the Chicken Little act and give it a chance I would feel comfortable going to the school I've been most impressed with in the location I want to be. The quality of school isn't in question, but people refuse to adapt and accept anything different than what they know. The ironic thing is the biggest nay-sayers aren't doctors, but freakin' students!
detroitdo 12-01-2008, 05:48 AM hey i have an interview from 12-5 on 12/17 and i was wondering if anyone else had had one at this time slot...Do they get out around 5, earlier? later?
let me know please :D I'm trying to figure out some arrangements for travel afterward so i would really appreciate an answer. thanks!
stonewall22 12-01-2008, 05:52 AM hey i have an interview from 12-5 on 12/17 and i was wondering if anyone else had had one at this time slot...Do they get out around 5, earlier? later?
let me know please :D I'm trying to figure out some arrangements for travel afterward so i would really appreciate an answer. thanks!
I was done at 5:30
Bamish 12-01-2008, 07:43 AM I was done at 5:30
The group my wife was in was done about 4:45. So, it seems the get pretty close to the 5:00 estimate.
stapler 12-01-2008, 08:06 AM I received this message from RVU
"This is to inform you that the Office of Admissions at Rocky Vista University College of Osteopathic Medicine is continuing its consideration of your application for the class of 2009."
I was wondering if anyone knows what this means for my chances of getting an interview? Has anyone else received this message and heard back yet or talked to anyone?
Dissected 12-01-2008, 09:04 AM Ok, so I just cancelled my interview for december 16th because Ive been accepted elsewhere...If anyone wants go for an earlier interview you might be able to snag my empty slot if you call really soon!
Good luck everyone!
lincolnparadox 12-01-2008, 02:30 PM I have an interview on 12/15. I'm pretty excited about seeing the school for myself.
Airlife91 12-01-2008, 02:45 PM After reading posts and links about how RVU is listed as 'questionable' by the Colorado State Board of Medical Examiners, I emailed RVU to get more information on this issue. Here is the response:
"The answer is that the Colorado Board requires that a student graduate from an accredited college of medicine to be eligible for licensure. As a provisionally accredited institution that has met all the requirements of the state of Colorado, the AOA and the USDE, we cannot currently be fully accredited, thus are included on their list. We will be accredited at the time of graduation of our inaugural class in 2012, and there will be no conflicts with Colorado or any other states licensure board.
Rest assured, we would not have matriculated our Inaugural Class if there were any concerns over our students being eligible for licensure – it just wouldn’t make sense."
Hope that clears things up for some people.
PunkmedGirl 12-01-2008, 04:09 PM After reading posts and links about how RVU is listed as 'questionable' by the Colorado State Board of Medical Examiners, I emailed RVU to get more information on this issue. Here is the response:
"The answer is that the Colorado Board requires that a student graduate from an accredited college of medicine to be eligible for licensure. As a provisionally accredited institution that has met all the requirements of the state of Colorado, the AOA and the USDE, we cannot currently be fully accredited, thus are included on their list. We will be accredited at the time of graduation of our inaugural class in 2012, and there will be no conflicts with Colorado or any other states licensure board.
Rest assured, we would not have matriculated our Inaugural Class if there were any concerns over our students being eligible for licensure – it just wouldn’t make sense."
Hope that clears things up for some people.
I'm glad that you provided some insight on the matter. :)
boone95 12-01-2008, 04:18 PM After reading posts and links about how RVU is listed as 'questionable' by the Colorado State Board of Medical Examiners, I emailed RVU to get more information on this issue. Here is the response:
"We will be accredited at the time of graduation of our inaugural class in 2012, and there will be no conflicts with Colorado or any other states licensure board.
Thank you for stepping up and clearing this up.
Don't overlook RVU because of rumors and worries, it has far too much to offer that you do not want to miss out on.
toot45 12-01-2008, 05:17 PM Do not listen to Bamish or anyone else!
There are many people who either did not get in or just like to start problems.
Look things up yourself and you will SEE that almost all of the negative statments about the school are not true.
Some of these people are the same ones from last year talking.
All i have to say is if the aoa and state boards dont care, why should you listen to some ignorant pre-meds.
Do your own research!
PunkmedGirl 12-01-2008, 05:29 PM Do not listen to Bamish or anyone else!
There are many people who either did not get in or just like to start problems.
Look things up yourself and you will SEE that almost all of the negative statments about the school are not true.
Some of these people are the same ones from last year talking.
All i have to say is if the aoa and state boards dont care, why should you listen to some ignorant pre-meds.
Do your own research!
A very true statement.
Es Pontas 12-01-2008, 05:42 PM I completely agree. Anways, when I went on my visit to lmu-dcom, the clinical rotations director went around and asked everyone where they were looking. When I mentioned rocky vista, he stopped the discussion and said they were building a very excellent program.
Anyways, I sent in my deposit today. The school was sick and the fact that they want to produce doctors to live in the mountains...sign me up!
Bamish 12-01-2008, 06:00 PM Do not listen to Bamish or anyone else!
There are many people who either did not get in or just like to start problems.
Look things up yourself and you will SEE that almost all of the negative statments about the school are not true.
Some of these people are the same ones from last year talking.
All i have to say is if the aoa and state boards dont care, why should you listen to some ignorant pre-meds.
Do your own research!
Excuse me? I think an apology is in order you twit. I'm not trying to start problems, I'm simply trying to research a school before I dump in excess of $200K into it. As you stated- "Do your own research", which I did and have posted a very small amount of it here. I did call the state board, and was told exactly what I posted here (which contradicts what you state--currently the state board does care). I have said nothing about this school that isn't true and I've not "bashed" it in any form.
As far as getting in, I doubt I'll have trouble getting into any DO school, and will actually be very competitive at many MD schools, my wife however will not be, and her situation must be taken into consideration for our decisions. All I'm trying to do is decide what will be best for me and my wife, so I am doing research. And I only posted what I was told by the state board as a response to stonewall22, not to you.
You mention "ignorant pre-meds" but don't mention ignorant medical students, of which I'm sure you are an authority. Anyone who can not look at a school objectively (or appreciate when others, such as myself do) and try to weigh the pros and cons and do research of said school is indeed ignorant. Since that is exactly what I am trying to do (weigh the pros and cons) and it seemed to elude you, I will assume you are just blinded by ignorance-I pity you.
I understand you are excited to be going to RVU, and that's great. But you failed to research the school that is your mistake, not mine. Of course as I've also said in a previous post, I'm very aware that it's possible that my concerns may be unfounded and end up resolved before they have a chance to surface as problems. But I would rather be sure to research it now instead of later, just because you can't appreciate that doesn't make it "ignorant". And to me, research involves more than just calling the school and asking them a few quick questions. To dumb it down for you, I once looked at a used car, the salesman told me everything I wanted to hear, and made the car sound wonderful. But, when I took it to a mechanic he listed many problems with the car. If you need further explanation of the analogy please let me know. So, I am doing research on the school, which I would assume you would appreciate, yet you criticize me in your post-hypocrite.
Anyway, you should be ashamed of yourself, just another KWH I suppose.
Dissected 12-01-2008, 07:15 PM Kwh?
Bamish 12-01-2008, 08:43 PM I received this message from RVU
"This is to inform you that the Office of Admissions at Rocky Vista University College of Osteopathic Medicine is continuing its consideration of your application for the class of 2009."
I was wondering if anyone knows what this means for my chances of getting an interview? Has anyone else received this message and heard back yet or talked to anyone?
Pre-interview holds are generally not a promising thing. I wouldn't count on getting an interview there this cycle, but you never know! Good luck to you! :)
Dissected 12-01-2008, 08:50 PM So did you call him a KWH as in kilowatt-hour... or does that mean something else? :D
toot45 12-01-2008, 08:54 PM ok well bamish if you are not interested in RVU then get off this thread.
spend time "doing research" make sure you also call the school that are saying negative things about. Get your facts straight.
stop bringing up the same thing over and over. There are many other threads about this. Go there and enjoy yourself.
AOA agress, and every single of the residency programs that are under contract dont seem to care about "for-profit" status. so why do you?
just drop it and focus your time into getting into a school.
As soon as you made comments here on this thread it has gotten off topic.
Any medical schools does not need the negative outlook you have.
Now to any prospective students for RVU have any questions. Feel free to msg me and I will give you answers based on what the Dean of the school has said and not mr. bamish
RVU is a great school with soo much planned for the future. You should interview and ask any question that you may about the school and let the school tell you their plans and mr. bamish and others on this forum who have nothing better than to go bash school that they are not even interseted in attending....who does that serioulsy? Be productive
And bamish if you have any other comments or question you too can msg me instead of posting and we can talk privatley instead of wasting space here on the forums going back and forth.
Bamish 12-01-2008, 09:01 PM ok well bamish if you are not interested in RVU then get off this thread.
spend time "doing research" make sure you also call the school that are saying negative things about. Get your facts straight.
stop bringing up the same thing over and over. There are many other threads about this. Go there and enjoy yourself.
AOA agress, and every single of the residency programs that are under contract dont seem to care about "for-profit" status. so why do you?
just drop it and focus your time into getting into a school.
As soon as you made comments here on this thread it has gotten off topic.
Any medical schools does not need the negative outlook you have.
Now to any prospective students for RVU have any questions. Feel free to msg me and I will give you answers based on what the Dean of the school has said and not mr. bamish
RVU is a great school with soo much planned for the future. You should interview and ask any question that you may about the school and let the school tell you their plans and mr. bamish and others on this forum who have nothing better than to go bash school that they are not even interseted in attending....who does that serioulsy? Be productive
I hope you read for comprehension better in school than you do on these boards. Since you are confused- being from CO we are interested in the school, which is why I'm researching it (and has been stated in this very thread). Anyway, I'm not going to argue with you, I hate to say this, but I honestly feel you are beneath me.
toot45 12-01-2008, 09:06 PM I hope you read for comprehension better in school than you do on these boards. Since you are confused- being from CO we are interested in the school, which is why I'm researching it (and has been stated in this very thread). Anyway, I'm not going to argue with you, I hate to say this, but I honestly feel you are beneath me.
ill let you think that
toot45 12-01-2008, 09:13 PM so anyone have interviews this week? Need any advise on where to eat and visit if you do have some thime to spare?
Feel free to msg me!
Good luck to everyone who has interviewed at RVU or any other school.:)
Dissected 12-01-2008, 09:13 PM maybe you meant Killroy Was Here?
http://papundits.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/kilroy.jpg
PunkmedGirl 12-01-2008, 11:47 PM Wow. That was very uncool, Bamish. You can voice your opinion without resorting to personal insults. :mad:
I'm with a lot of the other students in saying that "for-profit" status has nothing to do with the school getting its accreditation or being able to gain practice rights in CO. But then again I'm just a premed. Maybe I should call myself and see what is up, because the website doesn't suggest or hint to anything negative about the school. Everyone states that its going to have a negative effect on the school but not the students, so what the heck does that me??:confused::confused:
Deepa100 12-02-2008, 07:00 AM If the reason RVU has questionable status is because it is not accredited, shouldn't the new MD colleges in the US be on the list too, FIU for eg?
Bamish 12-02-2008, 09:09 AM Wow. That was very uncool, Bamish. You can voice your opinion without resorting to personal insults. :mad:
I'm with a lot of the other students in saying that "for-profit" status has nothing to do with the school getting its accreditation or being able to gain practice rights in CO. But then again I'm just a premed. Maybe I should call myself and see what is up, because the website doesn't suggest or hint to anything negative about the school. Everyone states that its going to have a negative effect on the school but not the students, so what the heck does that me??:confused::confused:
The only insult I saw was when I was called an ignorant pre-med by someone who is telling people to do their own research. But when someone like me does do some research and then posts one small negative, they are called an ignorant pre-med. If you want to talk uncool, start with the person starting the personal insults, which wasn't me. I have found out some other things that concern me about the school, but I haven't listed them because frankly, the fan-bois (spelling...my daughters term) on this thread would just get their shorts in a bunch. What would be the point in sharing any potential information anyway? It's not appreciated, only flamed.
I of course didn't actually start sharing any of this information--I only mentioned one small part (the licensing thing- which wasn't even mentioned by me initially) in a reply to someone and look what happened, you all jump on a bandwagon...again, sad. Someone suggested that I do research on my own, which I replied that I had been and used the licensing issue since it had already been brought up by someone else previously in this thread....which somehow translates into me being an ignorant pre-med. Sure, I'll accept an apology from you too since you seem to have jumped on board.
Anyway, the way you people seem to think is that people should do their own research, as long as that research only involves calling the school and being told how wonderful everything is. If however you do other research and find something that concerns you, then don't post it here, people don't want to hear it. For example, the licensing issue. I called the state board, was told that RVU is on their questionable list and posted that. I also posted that this problem would probably be resolved by the school ASAP, but nobody cared that I posted that. Instead I was an "ignorant pre-med".
Uncool, yes, many of you are.
Bamish 12-02-2008, 09:17 AM If the reason RVU has questionable status is because it is not accredited, shouldn't the new MD colleges in the US be on the list too, FIU for eg?
One would think so. When I called the board they didn't give a reason as to why the school was questionable.
Dissected 12-02-2008, 09:22 AM Hey bamish....you mind explaining what a KWH is?
The suspense is killing me.
Bamish 12-02-2008, 09:45 AM Hey bamish....you mind explaining what a KWH is?
The suspense is killing me.
I posted it just to annoy you. I knew it would drive just you crazy! ;) Seriously, grats on your acceptance! :)
Dissected 12-02-2008, 10:03 AM I posted it just to annoy you. I knew it would drive just you crazy! ;) Seriously, grats on your acceptance! :)
hahaha! thanks man! im bummed RVU didn't work out, I withdrew yesterday.
Im gonna figure out this KWH business...google hasn't helped thus far, and neither has urban dictionary. :mad:
Bamish 12-02-2008, 10:10 AM hahaha! thanks man! im bummed RVU didn't work out, I withdrew yesterday.
Im gonna figure out this KWH business...google hasn't helped thus far, and neither has urban dictionary. :mad:
Yeah, my wife was accepted to LECOM, but living in CO I know she would rather just stay here. So I've been trying to research it heavily, especially since I'll be applying wherever she ends up going.
I admire your perseverance with the KWH thing, it's really not a big deal. But, if you don't get it figured out shoot me a pm in the next few days. ;)
All the best, Bamish! :)
toot45 12-02-2008, 10:13 AM moderators:
please ban bamish from this thread. He/she is getting to insulting and unprofessional.
Bamish is posting false information about RVU and should not be allowed to continue postings.
Message to all: hes statements are false. He is someone who is just against for-profit status which has nothing to do with anything.
there are many posts by other who have disproved his messages but yet he continues to post.
AGAIN TO ALL POTENTIAL STUDENTS....DO NOT LISTEN TO HIM....COME SEE AND RESEARCH THE SCHOOL ON YOUR OWN AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THIS SCHOOL IS NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHERS.
I must go now to a meeting with the PRESIDENT OF THE COLORADO SOCIETY OF MEDICINE, who represents both MDs and DOs across the state. WHO IS GIVING A PRESENTATION SAYING HOW HAPPY THE STATE OF COLORADO IS TO HAVE ANOTHER MEDICAL SCHOOL.
THERE ARE SOO MANY EVENTS AND IMPORTANT PEOPLE THAT COME AND GIVE SPEECHES AND ARE SOO HAPPY ABOUT THE SCHOOL, BUT I DONT FEEL ITS NECESSARY TO POST THEM ALL SO THAT WE CAN DISPROVE PEOPLE LIKE BAMISH.
HAVE A GREAT DAY EVERYONE!
toot45 12-02-2008, 10:15 AM oh and i advise all to look at our faculty list and read their bios
very impressive!!!
http://www.rockyvistauniversity.org/dept_facultyaz.asp
Bamish 12-02-2008, 10:25 AM moderators:
please ban bamish from this thread. He/she is getting to insulting and unprofessional.
Bamish is posting false information about RVU and should not be allowed to continue postings.
Message to all: hes statements are false. He is someone who is just against for-profit status which has nothing to do with anything.
there are many posts by other who have disproved his messages but yet he continues to post.
AGAIN TO ALL POTENTIAL STUDENTS....DO NOT LISTEN TO HIM....COME SEE AND RESEARCH THE SCHOOL ON YOUR OWN AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THIS SCHOOL IS NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHERS.
I must go now to a meeting with the PRESIDENT OF THE COLORADO SOCIETY OF MEDICINE, who represents both MDs and DOs across the state. WHO IS GIVING A PRESENTATION SAYING HOW HAPPY THE STATE OF COLORADO IS TO HAVE ANOTHER MEDICAL SCHOOL.
THERE ARE SOO MANY EVENTS AND IMPORTANT PEOPLE THAT COME AND GIVE SPEECHES AND ARE SOO HAPPY ABOUT THE SCHOOL, BUT I DONT FEEL ITS NECESSARY TO POST THEM ALL SO THAT WE CAN DISPROVE PEOPLE LIKE BAMISH.
HAVE A GREAT DAY EVERYONE!
Actually, I've posted nothing that's false. Anyone can call the state board and be told exactly what I was. And I've not posted anything else about the school. So, I'm not sure how your comments have any validity. And, I'm not against any school, I simply want to make sure I'm making the best choice I can regarding any school I might attend. I'm not sure why you struggle with this. Are you that insecure about your own school, yourself? Just because someone questions the school doesn't make them the horrible thing that you've made them to be in your mind. Get over it, the school does have concerns that people have every right to research, just because that research might not lead to an answer you like doesn't make it meaningless. Grow up.
Had you taken any time to read posts instead of just whining you would realize that I have been supportive of the school. My wife is very excited about it, and I am going to research it, just as I'll research LECOM more now that she is accepted to it. So, stop your shouting, crying, and pity party- just because someone questions a school doesn't mean they are against a school, it just means they are trying to make an informed decision. Now, as I stated previously, I'm done speaking with you, I simply don't find you worth it. So please, offer me the same courtesy.
Now, speaking of insulting...yes you were. You called (directed at me) me an ignorant pre-med. You disagree with my post about the board (even though I only posted what I was told by the board) which is fine. All you had to do is recommend that others do their own research, and leave out the whole ignorant pre-med comment. So, if you are calling for bans for being insulting, since you started it I suppose you should be the first banned.
The Saxon 12-02-2008, 10:39 AM Actually, I've posted nothing that's false. Anyone can call the state board and be told exactly what I was. And I've not posted anything else about the school. So, I'm not sure how your comments have any validity. And, I'm not against any school, I simply want to make sure I'm making the best choice I can regarding any school I might attend. I'm not sure why you struggle with this. Are you that insecure about your own school? Just because someone questions the school doesn't make them the horrible thing that you've made them to be in your mind. Get over it, the school does have concerns that people have every right to research, just because that research might not lead to an answer you like doesn't make it meaningless. Grow up.
Had you taken any time to read posts instead of just whining you would realize that I have been supportive of the school. My wife is very excited about it, and I am going to research it, just as I'll research LECOM more now that she is accepted to it. So, stop your shouting, crying, and pity party- grow up and realize that just because someone questions a school doesn't mean they are against a school, it just means they are trying to make an informed decision.
Bamish - As an SDN member for almost 5 years (with a newly created account) I'd kindly request/vote that you leave this thread and refrain from further personal attacks. I'm sure a mod will handle this situation eventually as SCPOD has already attempted. As a matter of fact, the users who continue to propagate misinformation and unfounded opinion (Instate Waiter, Bioteach, and others) have been doing so simply to incite a response for more than 2 years and never listen to reason or facts surrounding RVU. This is an old debate founded in emotion by a select few with no real relevance any longer. It's unfortunate that they (old users resurrecting failed arguments) are able to manipulate "newer" SDN users such as you and DoctorB with old misinformation that's already been laid to rest and disproved in subsequent threads; you all are "thanking" them for old emotional perspectives with no citation (see the post history of the users I specifically mention here) designed simply to create a current controversy. The concerns have already been addressed ad nauseum by RVU medical students, physicians, and SDN moderators familiar with RVUCOM. IMHO - you're overly defensive and thus overreactive in your attacks on other users and the medical school in this thread. Please give it a rest and good luck in your upcoming decisions.
PunkmedGirl 12-02-2008, 10:41 AM The only insult I saw was when I was called an ignorant pre-med by someone who is telling people to do their own research. But when someone like me does do some research and then posts one small negative, they are called an ignorant pre-med. If you want to talk uncool, start with the person starting the personal insults, which wasn't me. I have found out some other things that concern me about the school, but I haven't listed them because frankly, the fan-bois (spelling...my daughters term) on this thread would just get their shorts in a bunch. What would be the point in sharing any potential information anyway? It's not appreciated, only flamed.
I of course didn't actually start sharing any of this information--I only mentioned one small part (the licensing thing- which wasn't even mentioned by me initially) in a reply to someone and look what happened, you all jump on a bandwagon...again, sad. Someone suggested that I do research on my own, which I replied that I had been and used the licensing issue since it had already been brought up by someone else previously in this thread....which somehow translates into me being an ignorant pre-med. Sure, I'll accept an apology from you too since you seem to have jumped on board.
Anyway, the way you people seem to think is that people should do their own research, as long as that research only involves calling the school and being told how wonderful everything is. If however you do other research and find something that concerns you, then don't post it here, people don't want to hear it. For example, the licensing issue. I called the state board, was told that RVU is on their questionable list and posted that. I also posted that this problem would probably be resolved by the school ASAP, but nobody cared that I posted that. Instead I was an "ignorant pre-med".
Uncool, yes, many of you are.
Yea, but he didn't call you names or try to insult you by saying he's smart or better than you. He said don't listen to "Bamish and the others" not don't listen to that ignorant pre-med Bamish or did I miss something?? By all means correct me if I missed something. That was the uncool part for which I was referring to. I understand you wanted to defend yourself regarding his post for calling you out, but the name calling and bashing his intelligence isn't going to solve anything.
Secondly, from what you and others say about RVU via the conversation with the Medical Examiners contradicts what is said on the website about RVU which doesn't suggest or elude to any suspicions of any kind. It doesn't seem fesible that CO would deny license to RVU graduates when they will grant them accreditation (of course this is assume that they continue with successful progression). I could be wrong and naive to the situation, but it does sound like people are blowing this up into a bigger balloon than what it really is. Now I'm only referring to the licensing issue and haven't had time to really research what other issues they may in fact have. If you don't care to share that's fine, I'm sure it will come up sooner rather than later if its a biggie.
EDIT: I think I took to long to post my reply.
PunkmedGirl 12-02-2008, 10:46 AM The only insult I saw was when I was called an ignorant pre-med by someone who is telling people to do their own research. But when someone like me does do some research and then posts one small negative, they are called an ignorant pre-med. If you want to talk uncool, start with the person starting the personal insults, which wasn't me. I have found out some other things that concern me about the school, but I haven't listed them because frankly, the fan-bois (spelling...my daughters term) on this thread would just get their shorts in a bunch. What would be the point in sharing any potential information anyway? It's not appreciated, only flamed.
I of course didn't actually start sharing any of this information--I only mentioned one small part (the licensing thing- which wasn't even mentioned by me initially) in a reply to someone and look what happened, you all jump on a bandwagon...again, sad. Someone suggested that I do research on my own, which I replied that I had been and used the licensing issue since it had already been brought up by someone else previously in this thread....which somehow translates into me being an ignorant pre-med. Sure, I'll accept an apology from you too since you seem to have jumped on board.
Anyway, the way you people seem to think is that people should do their own research, as long as that research only involves calling the school and being told how wonderful everything is. If however you do other research and find something that concerns you, then don't post it here, people don't want to hear it. For example, the licensing issue. I called the state board, was told that RVU is on their questionable list and posted that. I also posted that this problem would probably be resolved by the school ASAP, but nobody cared that I posted that. Instead I was an "ignorant pre-med".
Uncool, yes, many of you are.
Yea, but he didn't call you names or try to insult you by saying he's smart or better than you. He said don't list to "Bamish and the others" not don't listen to that ignorant pre-med Bamish or did I miss something?? By all means correct me if I missed something. That was the uncool part for which I was referring to. I understand you wanted to defend yourself regarding his post for calling you out, but the name calling and bashing his intelligence isn't going to solve anything.
Secondly, from what you and others say about RVU via the conversation with the Medical Examiners contradicts what is said on the website about RVU which doesn't suggest or elude to any suspicions of any kind. It doesn't seem fesible that CO would deny liscense to RVU graduates when they will grant them accreditation (of course this is assume that they continue with successful progression). I could be wrong and naive to the situation, but it does sound like people are blowing this up into a bigger balloon than what it really is. Now I'm only referring to the licensing issue and haven't had time to really research what other issues they may in fact have. If you don't care to share that's fine, I'm sure it will come up sooner rather than later if its a biggie.
Bamish 12-02-2008, 10:48 AM Yea, but he didn't call you names or try to insult you by saying he's smart or better than you. He said don't list to "Bamish and the others" not don't listen to that ignorant pre-med Bamish or did I miss something?? By all means correct me if I missed something. That was the uncool part for which I was referring to. I understand you wanted to defend yourself regarding his post for calling you out, but the name calling and bashing his intelligence isn't going to solve anything.
Secondly, from what you and others say about RVU via the conversation with the Medical Examiners contradicts what is said on the website about RVU which doesn't suggest or elude to any suspicions of any kind. It doesn't seem fesible that CO would deny liscense to RVU graduates when they will grant them accreditation (of course this is assume that they continue with successful progression). I could be wrong and naive to the situation, but it does sound like people are blowing this up into a bigger balloon than what it really is. Now I'm only referring to the licensing issue and haven't had time to really research what other issues they may in fact have. If you don't care to share that's fine, I'm sure it will come up sooner rather than later if its a biggie.
EDIT: I think I took to long to post my reply.
As far as the licensing issue, again...had you read my post about it you would also see that I said that I'm sure it will be resolved. All I was doing was replying to someone who said I should do my own research- I was using it as an example to show that I had been doing research.
And yes, you did miss something, the post was directed at me as I was named and I was the only pre-med voicing concerns in this thread. The other people that you think he could have been referring to are both medical students, not pre-meds. So, he was referring to me.
Again, had he left out the whole ignorant pre-med comment I think things would have been much better. He is telling people to do their own research, which I have done, then insults people who do so. All he had to do is say something like "Bamish may be doing some research, but you may want to research it yourself, things that he finds concerning you might not". This would have worked much better and not instigated problems, but I think that is exactly what he was trying to do--start problems. If you read some of my other posts, I have been nothing but supportive and helpful on these boards. I only replied to being insulted and I replied in the same fashion, I was just better at it.
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