Everything else is good though I do not have research, I am not aiming for research schools.

I took the June 13 MCAT but was forced to void it due to poor practice scores. I am scheduled for a July MCAT. Assuming, I get a 30 what are my chances? I am worried that the late MCAT will kill my chances at MD schools.

UPDATE

Not looking good...

I took the June MCAT but had to void. I am taking it in July but I am afraid that this killed my MD chances with my GPA, 3.3 Science and 3.4 Overall. I know they were slim to begin. Should I even bother with MD and just apply DO? Next year will be even more competitive so waiting a year doesn't seem like a good idea.

I took the June MCAT but had to void. I am taking it in July but I am afraid that this killed my MD chances with my GPA, 3.3 Science and 3.4 Overall. I know they were slim to begin. Should I even bother with MD and just apply DO? Next year will be even more competitive so waiting a year doesn't seem like a good idea.

If you can do very well on te MCAT then apply both DO and MD. If you get below a 30 on the MCAT, only go DO. Best of luck.

If you have a friendly state school you may be just fine, so I wouldn't throw out your MD application just yet. And if you've got the dough, I'd definitely say apply to both MD and DO schools. If you don't try, you'll never know.... Just present the best application you can.

And for schools that don't screen, get your secondaries, LORs, etc. all in before your score comes out in August so that you're complete as soon as your score is posted to the schools. That should help improve your chances a bit than if you waited to start that whole process in August. :luck:

I took the June MCAT but had to void. I am taking it in July but I am afraid that this killed my MD chances with my GPA, 3.3 Science and 3.4 Overall. I know they were slim to begin. Should I even bother with MD and just apply DO? Next year will be even more competitive so waiting a year doesn't seem like a good idea.

I am going to go against the grain and say that it definitely does not KILL your chances, regardless. You will get your scores back in August (the latest Aug. 18th). You will be in the thick of the pack. Just as long as you have completed everything else in your app (secondaries and letters) you will be fine in terms of timing!!!!!!!

And in terms of your GPA: I always say that if you truly want something you go for it. If you really want to be an MD apply to those schools. You do not really know what adcomm's are looking for...and I feel you do yourself a diservice by not giving yourself a chance.

And while lazymed may have had good intentions (cough cough...but you never know with people on this site...cough cough) he is only a med student and thus can only give you an opinion from the standpoint of an ex-applicant. And if he is on the adcomm at his school he can only present you with an opinion predicated solely on how his adcomm reviews applicants


Best of luck to you!!!!

I say GO FOR IT!!!

Why do you think next year will be more competitive?

You will not be late if you take the test in July..unless you are applying early decision. Good luck and well done with voiding your score. I was tempted to void mine after the first time and it would have been a wise choice, but hindsight is always 20-20

I took the June MCAT but had to void. I am taking it in July but I am afraid that this killed my MD chances with my GPA, 3.3 Science and 3.4 Overall. I know they were slim to begin. Should I even bother with MD and just apply DO? Next year will be even more competitive so waiting a year doesn't seem like a good idea.

I am in the exact same situation as you with identical stats. I'm banking on my state schools and I think I have a chance as long as I can get to a 30 on the MCAT. So do you.

I took the August MCAT "back in the day" when there were only two a year. I got in the same year. So no, you can still do it. I did do well on the MCAT, so that helped, but I think with a July date, you're doing ok.

I am going to go against the grain and say that it definitely does not KILL your chances, regardless.



I just want to clarify that I don't think that a July MCAT will kill your chances either. If your app is otherwise solid, I think you've got a good shot if you make sure you've got everything in in time to be complete in August. You'll definitely be right in the midst of things, and not necessarily late. Earlier is always better, especially for an applicant with average stats, but it's FAR from the kiss of death. Everyone likes to post cautionary tales, but don't let them discourage you to the point where you don't even try to apply! Just take it as a challenge and rise to the occasion.

And keep in mind that your application is definitely more than just numbers, and that adcoms will take note of you if you present them with compelling reasons to admit you. Put your passion for medicine into your essays and stay on top of things and you've got a good shot. Of course, your chances will improve the earlier you're complete at rolling schools, as well as go up dramatically depending on your MCAT score. But being a resident of a state with reasonable state schools has significant power to to level the acceptance playing field as well.

Why do you think next year will be more competitive?

I don't have any numbers, but the trend seems to be more a competitive applicant pool (stats-wise, at least) each year.

On a related note (although the OP probably did not intend his comment to have this meaning), it is also somewhat harder to apply as a reapplicant (you're considered a reapplicant at any school you submitted your primary to in a prior year). Reapplicants have to show/document/describe improvement from one year to the next, and sometimes have to write an additional essay. Lots of reapplicants get in though, so it's obviously doable. And I have heard of schools admiring an applicant's tenacity and determination in reapplying, so I suppose it's not all bad.

EDIT: FYI, OP, I'm merging your two "what are my chances" posts in Pre-Allo.

On a related note (although the OP probably did not intend his comment to have this meaning), it is also somewhat harder to apply as a reapplicant (you're considered a reapplicant at any school you submitted your primary to in a prior year). Reapplicants have to show/document/describe improvement from one year to the next, and sometimes have to write an additional essay. Lots of reapplicants get in though, so it's obviously doable. And I have heard of schools admiring an applicant's tenacity and determination in reapplying, so I suppose it's not all bad.


Where did you hear this? If this is true, it makes even more sense to wait a year. I am guessing applying early the next year does not cut it for improvement.

Where did you hear this? If this is true, it makes even more sense to wait a year. I am guessing applying early the next year does not cut it for improvement.

It's SDN wisdom. Go check out the reapplicant forum and ask there. You'll get lots of advice from people who have actually done the reapplicant dance themselves. And no, applying early the next year does not count as improvement.

HOWEVER, I really don't think you need to put it off a year just because you're taking the July MCAT. Just get everything else submitted and complete for when your scores are reported in August and if your app is otherwise solid (and especially if you have (non-CA) state schools) you've got a good shot.

HOWEVER, I really don't think you need to put it off a year just because you're taking the July MCAT. Just get everything else submitted and complete for when your scores are reported in August and if your app is otherwise solid (and especially if you have (non-CA) state schools) you've got a good shot.

Any OOS and private schools I should apply to or should I just stick with in-state and DO?

Can you get secondaries before the MCAT is complete?

I have to get 2 more letters of recommendations, finish my personal statement, and do the rest of my AMCAS application (including transcription verification). When should I do all of this by?

I took the MCAT in April, but will be taking it again July 10...

1) can i send in the amcas NOW and then update my mcat score later in august? (would they still consider only my newer score?)
2) What do I do if I am applying to schools that screen the primary?--can I add them onto the amcas later?

I'd really like to turn in the amcas now if its possible so that i can do secondaries and then only worry about making sure my new score is sent in.

sorry for so many questions!

Thought I was supposed to be getting advice here. :p Happy to give it though. :)

Can you get secondaries before the MCAT is complete?

I have to get 2 more letters of recommendations, finish my personal statement, and do the rest of my AMCAS application (including transcription verification). When should I do all of this by?

Depends. I have heard some state schools will just give you the benefit of the doubt and send you secondaries before the MCAT score is out. I do not think it is common though. I would still send all your primaries (and any secondaries you get) out before your MCAT score.

You should get your AMCAS out ASAP. It is processed independently of your MCAT, which just gets tacked on when it comes out.

I took the MCAT in April, but will be taking it again July 10...

1) can i send in the amcas NOW and then update my mcat score later in august? (would they still consider only my newer score?)
2) What do I do if I am applying to schools that screen the primary?--can I add them onto the amcas later?

I'd really like to turn in the amcas now if its possible so that i can do secondaries and then only worry about making sure my new score is sent in.

sorry for so many questions!

1) Yes for sending out AMCAS now and kinda for being judged by only the new score. Med schools see all your MCAT scores. If they you are scheduled for a retake they will wait till that is out to make a decision.
2) Very few schools screen the primary (they want as much cash as possible). I would just apply to all the schools you want at once and not worry about it.

Any OOS and private schools I should apply to or should I just stick with in-state and DO?

Hard to tell without knowing what state you're a resident of or where you're already applying.

Okay, I made a MD apps so you all can better gauge how I'm doing. Thanks everyone.

Got my MCAT back, 28...and I bombed the writing with a L. Will that make a difference?

A lot of schools don't really consider the writing score. That being said, the MCAT of 28 with your low GPA, makes MD schools a long shot for you, as you'd commented. Hopefully one of your state schools is less selective so you'll recieve consideration. I'm glad you've already applied DO. You should do fine in that application pool.

Is it even worth the money to apply to out of state MD schools like Drexel and Albany. My AMCAS has been confirmed and I have only applied in-state.

Northeastern Ohio is your best in-state bet for MD. I wouldn't bother with Drexel and Albany. See the sticky (on School Selection) at the top of this forum. Your LizzyM score of 62 would not be very competative at those schools.