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Almost threw up during a GYN exam yesterday because the BV smell was sooo overpowering. Seriously, I ran out of the room without saying a word to to the patient because everytime I tried to talk, I gagged. :hungover:I was just wondering if anyone has actually done this, and how you handle the aftermath. Do you apologize? Does the patient apologize? Does everyone pretend the room doesn't smell like death.

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LOL! Welcome to the ED! I have left gagging on poop smell, but usually manage to make it thru the vag exam, though have come close to puking on a couple of people. What a mess that would have been... and yes, usually people kind of pretend it doesn't smell like a rotting, bloated corpse found after a week or so floating in a warm stagnant lake. Just to spare the patient's feelings and all. ;)
 
I think that the worst ED "odor" is the vag of the retained tampon that has been in there "a few days"....Oh man, as I get ready to do the exam, I take a DEEP breath and hold it, insert speculum, remove the FB, then place it in a specimen bag that the RN is holding so she can seal it closed, say a few words as I am exhaling the breath ("yep, got it out, be careful next time") then bolt out of the room without having to draw another breath.....Yes, it's THAT bad....
 
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I've never understood why everyone can't exercise basic hygiene habits. Even for the poor it's plausible.

Showering daily, deodorant, and brushing your teeth are not expensive.
 
I have the opposite problem, I don't think I smell things that are obvious to other people.

THe other day, I had an elderly man present with syncope, he felt fine, but was a little tachycardic and hypoertensive. I was thinking more along the lines of heart failure, and arrythmia, and had actually ordered metoprolol to decrease his tachycardia. He denied blood in the stool or black stool. I thought, "I should just do a rectal exam to make sure that he isn't a GI bleed before I go B-blocking him." Sure enough, melena. I'm charting when the NP walks in to work and says, "You've got a GI bleeder in room 7, I could smell the melena when I walked in the department." I stuck my finger in the guys butt and I didn't smell a darn thing.

People always say, "That guy smells like DKA," or "That wound smells like pseudomonas." Invariably, I reply, "Really?"

My wife is the same way, I come within 6 feet of her after eating onions any time in the previous 24 hours, and she immediately knows. Maybe its my over-powering bad breath that drowns out all else, but I think it is more than that. I have a smelling impairment which could negatively affect my patients. Do you guys know of any smell impairment classes I could take?

Now I'm concerned, I was reading a list of all of the diagnoses that I should be able to make from a table in Robert's clinical procedures and among the list are the following smells that are diagnostic.

Acetone (sweet, fruity; pear-like)- Lacquer, ethanol, isopropyl alcohol, chloroform, diabetic ketoacidosis, alcoholic ketoacidosis, trichloroethane, paraldehyde, chloral hydrate, methylbromide, Pseudomonas infections

Beer (stale)- Scrofula

Bitter almond- Cyanide

Carrots- Cicutoxin (or water hemlock)

Garlic- Phosphorus, tellurium, arsenic, parathion, malathion, selenium, dimethyl sulfoxide (DMSO), thallium

Hay- Phosgene

Sweating feet- Isovaleric acid acidemia

Violets- Turpentine (metabolites excreted in urine)


I have a feeling that I have missed a multitude of diagnoses. I don't quite know what scrofula or isovaleric acidemia are, but I will start treating more of my patients for those diagnoses (dirty socks and beer is the most common aroma in my ER).

Some have told me that my poor sense of smell is a blessing, others have told me I have Kallman's syndrome. I don't know what to think.
 
Dear god consider yourself blessed!!!! Your like Superman without a Kryptonite weakness!! You may in fact be the most highly evolved Emergency Physician in existence! An ED doc that can't smell is like a Lawyer that can lie with impunity ....no wait....you are like the Highlander....you can't die!!
 
Dear god consider yourself blessed!!!! Your like Superman without a Kryptonite weakness!! You may in fact be the most highly evolved Emergency Physician in existence! An ED doc that can't smell is like a Lawyer that can lie with impunity ....no wait....you are like the Highlander....you can't die!!

If only he couldn't feel emotion. Then he truly would be invincible.
 
I tend to have a somewhat similar problem. Kept getting told this pt smells like they have an anaerobic infection or smells like DKA, but never smelled a thing. Yet, I can smell a wet bed from across the ward. Urine odors are sensitized to me, all others (so far) are nonexistent. I think I may need that class too if there is one.
 
My wife says that I have very little compassion. She had surgery once and I was trying to back up what the nurse said and encouraging her to get up and out of bed. I was telling her that the sooner she got up and moved, the sooner she would get better. After a couple of minutes, her eyes turned cold, she looked at me with a look that said (I will kill you on the spot if you keep speaking) the crickets stopped chirping, the music went silent and she told me... "You are going to be a TERRIBLE doctor."

I shutup after that.

So, my wife thinks I have little emotion, at least, the good kind. Does that count?
 
My wife says that I have very little compassion. She had surgery once and I was trying to back up what the nurse said and encouraging her to get up and out of bed. I was telling her that the sooner she got up and moved, the sooner she would get better. After a couple of minutes, her eyes turned cold, she looked at me with a look that said (I will kill you on the spot if you keep speaking) the crickets stopped chirping, the music went silent and she told me... "You are going to be a TERRIBLE doctor."

I shutup after that.

So, my wife thinks I have little emotion, at least, the good kind. Does that count?

It seems family never wants you to back up the things the people they are mad at say. They would rather you lie I think. I found my family realizes when I get concerned AND can give them reasons why I am concerned that sound legitimate, they will go see the doctor. They act as though being 1500 miles away doesn't matter and I can diagnose them over the phone. I've learned the phrase "if you aren't careful, you can die from that condition." It works on the parentals.
 
Almost threw up during a GYN exam yesterday because the BV smell was sooo overpowering. Seriously, I ran out of the room without saying a word to to the patient because everytime I tried to talk, I gagged. :hungover:I was just wondering if anyone has actually done this, and how you handle the aftermath. Do you apologize? Does the patient apologize? Does everyone pretend the room doesn't smell like death.

i just experienced this today...

there is NO reason on earth for any woman to have a vagina that smells wretched and disgusting...nope, not one single reason.

i held my breath during the speculum and pelvic exam and prayed that no one noticed. it was horrendous. i agree that there is no reason for anyone not to exhibit/utilize basic hygiene habits.

for those of you who are residents and attendings, what do you do to cope w/the odors without making it obvious (hence more embarassing for the pt) that the stench is horrid?
 
for those of you who are residents and attendings, what do you do to cope w/the odors without making it obvious (hence more embarassing for the pt) that the stench is horrid?

this is the main reason i always lay patients down to do the pelvic, and make sure the sheet is draped across their knees. well, that and so i can make faces at the nurse.
 
this is the main reason i always lay patients down to do the pelvic, and make sure the sheet is draped across their knees. well, that and so i can make faces at the nurse.

Every time I see a gross discharge, or smell an unspeakable horror, I can't imagine anyone putting their willy inside that hoo-hoo.
 
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Every time I see a gross discharge, or smell an unspeakable horror, I can't imagine anyone putting their willy inside that hoo-hoo.

Agreed, but I have learned, if it has a vagina, some one is having sex with it and it will mot likely get pregnant.

To cover up smells I like Benzoin....A little on the upper lip and you can inhale stuff that would make a billy goat puke.
 
how do you keep things from sticking after putting benzoin on?
 
i just experienced this today...

there is NO reason on earth for any woman to have a vagina that smells wretched and disgusting...nope, not one single reason.

i held my breath during the speculum and pelvic exam and prayed that no one noticed. it was horrendous. i agree that there is no reason for anyone not to exhibit/utilize basic hygiene habits.

for those of you who are residents and attendings, what do you do to cope w/the odors without making it obvious (hence more embarassing for the pt) that the stench is horrid?

1- nose plug (http://www.metroswimshop.com/images/NIKESwimNoseClip.jpg) than
2- mask, than
3- Benzoin on mask, than,
4- Tell patient, ''sorry, need the mask cause I have a cold''

worked great for one nasty disimpaction!
 
i just experienced this today...

there is NO reason on earth for any woman to have a vagina that smells wretched and disgusting...nope, not one single reason.

i held my breath during the speculum and pelvic exam and prayed that no one noticed. it was horrendous. i agree that there is no reason for anyone not to exhibit/utilize basic hygiene habits.

for those of you who are residents and attendings, what do you do to cope w/the odors without making it obvious (hence more embarassing for the pt) that the stench is horrid?

i never wore masks until i removed a douchebag that had been sitting/festering in a woman for weeks. she felt really bad, and asked me to wear one before i did the exam and i finally relented (God bless her) and despite the mask i could still smell it. the tech nearly fell over, and i had a headache for the rest of the shift. now i just wear a mask with shield for every speculum exam to make life easier.
 
Here is a serious question:

What truly is the utility of the Vagixam? We the housestaff end up having to do a pelvic on any vag complaint, but as far as I can tell it never really changes management. Yesterday, my boss didnt believe that I felt CMT and made the poor woman go through speculum exam number 2, and then we consulted GYN who Im sure gave her exam number 3.
 
Here is a serious question:

What truly is the utility of the Vagixam? We the housestaff end up having to do a pelvic on any vag complaint, but as far as I can tell it never really changes management. Yesterday, my boss didnt believe that I felt CMT and made the poor woman go through speculum exam number 2, and then we consulted GYN who Im sure gave her exam number 3.
Why did your attending repeat the speculum portion of the exam to examine for CMT?
 
Here is a serious question:

What truly is the utility of the Vagixam? We the housestaff end up having to do a pelvic on any vag complaint, but as far as I can tell it never really changes management. Yesterday, my boss didnt believe that I felt CMT and made the poor woman go through speculum exam number 2, and then we consulted GYN who Im sure gave her exam number 3.


You do pelvic exams on lower abdomina pains, or on vaginal complaints to
First: See if there is adnexal tenderness. If I have a patient whose history is consistent with ovarian pathology, or appendicitis, or diverticulitis, I do a pelvic and tend to do decide on imaging. If their tenderness is more on palpation of the adnexa, I tend to get ultrasound. If their tenderness is more on palpation of the external abdomen, (and they aren't pregnant), I tend to go for CT.

Second: To screen for GC/Chlamydia- Patients might not have discharge or cervical motion tenderness, but might end up being positive for these pathogens 2 days later. It is poor form to not pick-up these pathogens and increase your patient's risk of developing abscess, or infertility.

Third: To screen for trichomonas and yeast- these pathogens will significantly alter your antibiotic choice (If you end up treating for PID in the ER). PID with trich needs flagyl too. You want to be careful about giving antibiotics to a yeast infection as the patient will just get worse.

Fourth: To change your threshold for treating for PID, GC/Chlamydia. PID is a spectrum of disease and is more of a clinical diagnosis in the end. If I have a young girl, with abdominal pain, and complaints of vag discharge, and recent unprotected sex with a new partner, I will probably treat her no matter what, even if the exam is benign. If I have a 40 year old lady, who is at low risk for STDs, but I do a pelvic and she has raging cervical motion tenderness, and lots of clue cells, I'm going to assume that her husband is cheating and treat her for GC/Chlamydia, and PID, whereas, I would have sent her home with a shoulder shrug and "Don't know what you've got" if the exam had been normal (providided I didn't find any other reason in imaging or labs).

Keep in mind, you can have Fitz Hugh Curtis present as isolated RUQ pain, and you will never think of it, or properly diagnose it unless you do a pelvic. No I don't do pelvics on all RUQ, nor am I suggesting that, but in that vague abdominal pain, with worse symptoms in the RUQ, I might ask some social questions to assess the risk of STDs, and do a pelvic if they are at risk.

Did that answer your question?
 
Here is a serious question:

What truly is the utility of the Vagixam? We the housestaff end up having to do a pelvic on any vag complaint, but as far as I can tell it never really changes management. Yesterday, my boss didnt believe that I felt CMT and made the poor woman go through speculum exam number 2, and then we consulted GYN who Im sure gave her exam number 3.

It does have utility. I've had a number of patients with abdominal pain who had a "positive UA". Then when I go spelunking in the naughty bits, all sorts of evil is pouring out.
 
I don't know why everyone here is so shocked, I've gotten to the point where I expect the vag exam to smell. I had one last week that I beleive was my first one that didn't smell, and I almost tipped over from the shock.

I did have one really bad exam the other day. I was doing the abdominal exam and got a whiff as I was pulling up her gown to expose her stomach and had to take a step back. Mind you, the underwear was still on. Of course, her pain was all suprapubic. When I presented to my attending, he said, "ok, well if the urine is negative, you should do a pelvic"

10 minutes later my prayers went unanswered, and I was going in...

I swear, the only thing that got me through it was the "warning" I had gotten earlier, and held my breath the whole time during the speculum portion. I probably looked like a smurf when I stood up to do the bimanual.
 
To add to Jarbacoa's answer, you will never find it if you do not look. (Sort of like the "must think of PE" thought process.)

I have had 2 patients with arterial vaginal bleeds... looked in there and saw that classic "fwoosh, fwoosh, fwoosh" - definitely changed management both of those times. One of them was already in hemorrhagic shock; the other was more freaked out, (8 years post hyst) and ended up going straight to the OR after I jammed as much packing in as I could. Not something I would want to miss, nor were either expected to be arterial. Who the heck thinks they're going to see an arterial vaginal bleed?? But I'm very glad I looked.
 
Here is a serious question:

What truly is the utility of the Vagixam? We the housestaff end up having to do a pelvic on any vag complaint, but as far as I can tell it never really changes management. Yesterday, my boss didnt believe that I felt CMT and made the poor woman go through speculum exam number 2, and then we consulted GYN who Im sure gave her exam number 3.

I've never had an attending repeat my pelvic exam. When I was on ob/gyn I did all my pelvics with the resident in the room, and occasionally asked for help or a more experienced pair of hands. Once I hit the ED as an M4, I would ask my attending whether they just wanted me to go ahead and do it or whether they wanted to be in the room - thus sparing the patient a 2nd exam if the attending was the hover-y type (they almost never were). I caught two patients with positive UAs who also had purulent discharge, no CMT - who probably would have gone untreated and possibly gone on to develop PID. I really think we do these patients a disservice if we d/c them with a positive UA without a pelvic exam. It's quick, cheap, and not REALLY that uncomfortable when performed properly. It has the potential to save them from a whole lot of hurt in the future.
 
doing a pelvic the other day, and a resident passing by outside the curtain called out "positive whiff" thats when you know things are bad down there
 
i never wore masks until i removed a douchebag that had been sitting/festering in a woman for weeks. she felt really bad, and asked me to wear one before i did the exam and i finally relented (God bless her) and despite the mask i could still smell it. the tech nearly fell over, and i had a headache for the rest of the shift. now i just wear a mask with shield for every speculum exam to make life easier.

Why is it that when i read this the first time, I automatically replaced "douchebag" in my head with "frat boy with a popped collar" . . . . . .
 
Here's the text:

Alleged "Douchebag" Sues Author
Las Vegas man sues over appearance in recent "Hot Chicks" book

NOVEMBER 18--Claiming that he has been unfairly branded a "douchebag" in the book "Hot Chicks with Douchebags," a Las Vegas man has filed a libel lawsuit against the volume's author and publisher. Michael Minelli, a 27-year-old club promoter, claims that the inclusion of his photograph in the book has subjected him to "hatred, contempt, and humiliation" and has resulted in "friends, acquaintances, coworkers, employees, and strangers alike" calling him a "douchebag." As seen below, Minelli's photo appears on page 202 of author Jay Louis's book, which was published in July by Simon & Schuster. In the book, Louis noted that Minelli's "popped-collar, spikey-haired presence was so far beyond regular douche, so far beyond uberdouche, he could spontaneously create a new element on the periodic tables--Douche Nine." At the time he was photographed by Louis, Minelli was working the door at the popular "Rehab" party at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino. As first reported by Courthouse News Service, Minelli's Clark County District Court lawsuit seeks unspecified financial damages and legal fees. Last month, three New Jersey women sued Louis and his publisher over their appearance in "Hot Chicks with Douchebags," which they claimed was "vulgar" and presented them as "females who date dubious men." (5 pages)
 
Here is a serious question:

What truly is the utility of the Vagixam? We the housestaff end up having to do a pelvic on any vag complaint, but as far as I can tell it never really changes management. Yesterday, my boss didnt believe that I felt CMT and made the poor woman go through speculum exam number 2, and then we consulted GYN who Im sure gave her exam number 3.


You do pelvic exams on lower abdomina pains, or on vaginal complaints to
First: See if there is adnexal tenderness. If I have a patient whose history is consistent with ovarian pathology, or appendicitis, or diverticulitis, I do a pelvic and tend to do decide on imaging. If their tenderness is more on palpation of the adnexa, I tend to get ultrasound. If their tenderness is more on palpation of the external abdomen, (and they aren't pregnant), I tend to go for CT.

Second: To screen for GC/Chlamydia- Patients might not have discharge or cervical motion tenderness, but might end up being positive for these pathogens 2 days later. It is poor form to not pick-up these pathogens and increase your patient's risk of developing abscess, or infertility.

Third: To screen for trichomonas and yeast- these pathogens will significantly alter your antibiotic choice (If you end up treating for PID in the ER). PID with trich needs flagyl too. You want to be careful about giving antibiotics to a yeast infection as the patient will just get worse.

Fourth: To change your threshold for treating for PID, GC/Chlamydia. PID is a spectrum of disease and is more of a clinical diagnosis in the end. If I have a young girl, with abdominal pain, and complaints of vag discharge, and recent unprotected sex with a new partner, I will probably treat her no matter what, even if the exam is benign. If I have a 40 year old lady, who is at low risk for STDs, but I do a pelvic and she has raging cervical motion tenderness, and lots of clue cells, I'm going to assume that her husband is cheating and treat her for GC/Chlamydia, and PID, whereas, I would have sent her home with a shoulder shrug and "Don't know what you've got" if the exam had been normal (providided I didn't find any other reason in imaging or labs).

Keep in mind, you can have Fitz Hugh Curtis present as isolated RUQ pain, and you will never think of it, or properly diagnose it unless you do a pelvic. No I don't do pelvics on all RUQ, nor am I suggesting that, but in that vague abdominal pain, with worse symptoms in the RUQ, I might ask some social questions to assess the risk of STDs, and do a pelvic if they are at risk.

Did that answer your question?

So, this is the way I approach this question:
First: Low accuracy and interrater reliability in the the bimaual to detect ovarian pathology - just get the TVUS or CT if your history suggests an appropriate cause.

Second: We got a pee test for these. Or see point #4.

Third: We don't have a microscope in the ED, so again, use the history to guide therapy. As for changing abx regimens in the face of possible yeast I can't say, although so many women develop it soon after initiation of abx that sending them home with a fluconazole rx is not a bad strategy.

Forth: Guidelines for treating (not diagnosing) PID are pretty liberal, so at the most a full speculum is not required, just go with a quick check for CMT: No stirrups, no plastic.

I appreciate thorougness, and a full pelvic exam may indeed pick up some rare items, but there are plenty of reasons to avoid patient discomfort, free up a gyn bed, and speed the workup of these patients.
 
Pee tests for GC/chlamydia are not easily available, and according to what I was taught are not as accurate as cervical swabs. Plus, they take TIME to come back. Your pelvic exam provides instant information. I hesitate to send a patient out with tests pending and no treatment for what is possible a fertility-threatening condition (except maybe in la-la land where everyone has their own PMD and follows up regularly - ha!). A quick look can identify cervicitis and purulent discharge, making me decide to treat right then rather than wait.
 
So, this is the way I approach this question:
First: Low accuracy and interrater reliability in the the bimaual to detect ovarian pathology - just get the TVUS or CT if your history suggests an appropriate cause.

Second: We got a pee test for these. Or see point #4.

Third: We don't have a microscope in the ED, so again, use the history to guide therapy. As for changing abx regimens in the face of possible yeast I can't say, although so many women develop it soon after initiation of abx that sending them home with a fluconazole rx is not a bad strategy.

Forth: Guidelines for treating (not diagnosing) PID are pretty liberal, so at the most a full speculum is not required, just go with a quick check for CMT: No stirrups, no plastic.

I appreciate thorougness, and a full pelvic exam may indeed pick up some rare items, but there are plenty of reasons to avoid patient discomfort, free up a gyn bed, and speed the workup of these patients.

So are you advocating fewer pelvic exams? NO speculum exams?

You are right, physical exam isn't perfect, but you are going to be more likely to order the right test, (CT versus US) if you do a thorough vaginal exam (including looking at the cervix and the walls of the vagina. (Why wouldn't you do that?)

I agree with above, the pee test isn't as acurate for women. You need to ideally, visualize the cervix and swab it. I think that if someone went on to develop worsening symptoms, and the patient was re-cultured properly from the cervix, and you were too lazy or scared of cervix to visualize it, you could be held responsible for not doing the appropriate exam. When you want to diagnose strep throat, you don't just swab the lips and oral mucousa, hoping to see strep, you go to the source of the infection, the tonsils.

Not having a microscope in the ED isn't an excuse for not sending the swab upstairs, who does have a microscope. Again, with overlap in symptoms between yeast infection, GC, Chlamydia, trichomonas, and BV, each with distinct treatments, and implications for the treatment of your partner, why wouldn't you want to insure an exact diagnosis, rather than just treat empirally for everything?

Who is teaching you that you don't have to do a speculum exam? ER attendings? Ob-gyn attendings? All I can say is I think you are treating and diagnosing your patients inadequately by not doing a speculum exam, and cervical wet-prep and cultures.
 
Well, I don't think any of us want to send PID out the door! That's why the CDC criteria for the treatment of suspected PID are so liberal - cultures (urine or swab) are needed for other reasons, but not for the initiation of treatment. If a patient meets the minimal criteria of 1)Lower abdominal tenderness, 2)Uterine/adnexal tenderness, and 3)Cervical motion tenderness, then she should get some abx. If you need to see a cervicitis and a discharge before treating, then you are undertreating, despite feeling that you have done a more complete exam than just a quick bimanual.
 
Some questions I'd like you to answer for me:

1. Do you send cultures?

2. When you do cultures, where do you culture from?

3. Do you ever do speculum exams? What would make you personally do speculum exams, or do you never do them.

4. If you don't do speculum exams, why not? Are you uncomfortable? Do you feel it takes too long?

5. Again, I'll ask you, who taught you that culturing from the cervix is unnecessary? Did ER attendings saying this, or did Ob-Gyn attendings? Is this the way that your whole ER works, or your institution?

6. So, every patient that you do a bimanual on that has adnexal tenderness, you give a shot of rocephin and send home with 14 days of doxycycline (all without culturing the cervix) Is that right? When do you decide to add Flagyl?

7. What do you say to a woman that says, I'm not at risk for STDs, I'm married? How do you convince them of the possibility of their spouses infidelity, and the need for PID treatment other than firm laboratory tests?

You are completely right, we need to have an increased threshold for treating PID since the 2006 recommendations came out. However, I think that doing a visual examination of the cervix and getting a wet-prep is going to increase my likelihood of treating, not decrease it. For example, if I look at the cervix and it is purulent, but there is no tenderness in the adnexa, (and she is complaining of abdominal pain, that I can't find a better explanation for, and she is at risk for STD), I'm still going to treat her for that infection, because of the way her cervix appears, or if the wet prep has trichomonas, or clue cells on it.

Katz: Comprehensive Gynecology said the following:

"The past decade has produced a clinical awareness of a syndrome called atypical, or silent, PID. This is an asympto-matic, or relatively asymptomatic, inflammation of the upper genital tract often associated with chlamydial infection. The sequelae of repeated asymptomatic chlamydial infections are tubal infertility and ectopic pregnancy. Some investigators believe that atypical PID may be the more common form of upper tract infection, and symptomatic PID may be but the "tip of the iceberg." As many as 40% of women with cervicitis without upper tract symptoms will also have endometritis noted on endometrial biopsy. Studies of women with tubal infertility have noted that many women, though not diagnosed as having had overt PID, have had symptoms of acute pelvic pain"

What I take from the above, is that there are some women out there with minimal symptoms, who might have essentially normal physical exams, who are harboring Chlamydia. How is it going to look when somebody comes in for vague abdominal pain, you do a bimanual, without culturing their cervix, send them home without abx treatment, and they come in for florid PID 2 weeks later? What would a lawyer and a jury think when it is noted that you did not do a cervical swab, and therefore, they didn't get treated for chlamydia in follow-up?

Again, I'd like to emphasize that PID isn't the only pathology we are looking for. We are also looking for vaginal pathology, vaginal herpes sores, cervical cancer, etc. ER doctors get sued for missing the "rare" pathology, as you described above.

In my opinion, the alternative to allowing the speculum exam and wet-prep to impact our clinical decision-making is to treat every woman with adnexal tenderness with ceftriaxone IM, 14 days of doxy, 14 days of flagyl, and monistat vag suppositories during the entire treatment. I don't think that is a rational approach.
 
Here's the text:

Alleged "Douchebag" Sues Author
Las Vegas man sues over appearance in recent "Hot Chicks" book

NOVEMBER 18--Claiming that he has been unfairly branded a "douchebag" in the book "Hot Chicks with Douchebags," a Las Vegas man has filed a libel lawsuit against the volume's author and publisher. Michael Minelli, a 27-year-old club promoter, claims that the inclusion of his photograph in the book has subjected him to "hatred, contempt, and humiliation" and has resulted in "friends, acquaintances, coworkers, employees, and strangers alike" calling him a "douchebag." As seen below, Minelli's photo appears on page 202 of author Jay Louis's book, which was published in July by Simon & Schuster. In the book, Louis noted that Minelli's "popped-collar, spikey-haired presence was so far beyond regular douche, so far beyond uberdouche, he could spontaneously create a new element on the periodic tables--Douche Nine." At the time he was photographed by Louis, Minelli was working the door at the popular "Rehab" party at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino. As first reported by Courthouse News Service, Minelli's Clark County District Court lawsuit seeks unspecified financial damages and legal fees. Last month, three New Jersey women sued Louis and his publisher over their appearance in "Hot Chicks with Douchebags," which they claimed was "vulgar" and presented them as "females who date dubious men." (5 pages)

OMG I graduated from high school with him! Hahahahahahhaha. I would post his yearbook photo, but I don't want to get sued either.
 
One of the grossest things I have seen is just massive bucket loads of really foul-smelling white discharge just flowing from the vag like a river in this extremely obese 20 yr old who also had a candidiasis rash in her groin folds. Did a speculum exam and couldn't see anything, the discharge just kept coming and coming, we couldn't find the source and it was so slippery we could barely keep a hold of the speculum. Not to mention it was exquisitely painful for her even after 8 of morphine and some ativan.

In my ER, we don't do cultures. For BV, it's a clinical diagnosis (smell, appearance of discharge. we don't do wet prep or have microsopy) and for suspected GC, we do the urine assay not the swab. For the above girl, we didn't really have a clear understanding of what was going on and she was septic, so we just admitted her to floor.
 
Wow, I'm jealous, my attendings made us do wet preps on all vag exams. We had a microscope in the ER. I usually did 3-4 wet preps per shift. Prior to residents coming, the attendings would send the samples upstairs to the lab. How do you diagnose trichomonas? Do you send a GC/Chlamydia/trichomonas panel?
 
I don't know why everyone here is so shocked, I've gotten to the point where I expect the vag exam to smell. I had one last week that I beleive was my first one that didn't smell, and I almost tipped over from the shock.

I did have one really bad exam the other day. I was doing the abdominal exam and got a whiff as I was pulling up her gown to expose her stomach and had to take a step back. Mind you, the underwear was still on. Of course, her pain was all suprapubic. When I presented to my attending, he said, "ok, well if the urine is negative, you should do a pelvic"

10 minutes later my prayers went unanswered, and I was going in...

I swear, the only thing that got me through it was the "warning" I had gotten earlier, and held my breath the whole time during the speculum portion. I probably looked like a smurf when I stood up to do the bimanual.

Reminds me of my first pap when i was 15..my doctor sighed and told me it was nice to have a normal one for a change..needless to say my mom joked for awhile about that :p
 
This is why nose clips should be built into face shields.

That's what the metal band is for. Most people think it is to form the mask around their nose, but I use it to pinch my nostrils off. It also forces me to finish before my mask fogs up from the mouth breathing. Makes the experience less painful for everyone (especially me and my nurse).
 
That's what the metal band is for. Most people think it is to form the mask around their nose, but I use it to pinch my nostrils off. It also forces me to finish before my mask fogs up from the mouth breathing. Makes the experience less painful for everyone (especially me and my nurse).

Easy to do it all in one breath. Less than 60 seconds for me.
 
i just experienced this today...

there is NO reason on earth for any woman to have a vagina that smells wretched and disgusting...nope, not one single reason.

i held my breath during the speculum and pelvic exam and prayed that no one noticed. it was horrendous. i agree that there is no reason for anyone not to exhibit/utilize basic hygiene habits.

for those of you who are residents and attendings, what do you do to cope w/the odors without making it obvious (hence more embarassing for the pt) that the stench is horrid?

I agree, and I think it's a matter of courtesy.

Look, if you are 8 weeks preggo and start bleeding at work, come on in and don't worry about things. But if you have had vag itch for a week and it's 2:30 in the afternoon take a shower before you see a physician.

These are basic social skills, everyone can understand the status of their own hygiene. Esp on OB/Gyn I was just shocked at the state some women would be in for an appointment that had probably been scheduled for 3 weeks. Clearly we were talking about 3-4 days post shower/bath/attention at all.
 
Easy to do it all in one breath. Less than 60 seconds for me.

Ah, see you're an attending. You have had years of building up your vital capacity to do so. I still have to work on getting "In shape". I think I have about 30 sec before I turn colors.
 
Ah, see you're an attending. You have had years of building up your vital capacity to do so. I still have to work on getting "In shape". I think I have about 30 sec before I turn colors.

More like 6 months. Really, there are only a few things to examine on a pelvic, all of which can be done in 60 seconds:

- Cervix exam (via speculum) 10-20 seconds
- CMT eval with fingers 10 seconds or less
- Adnexal tenderness 10 seconds
- Removing pannus from visual field 20 seconds
 
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