Please help me rank the following programs in the D.C./Maryland area. Any opinions on any program would be helpful too.

Georgetown
George Washington
University of Maryland
John Hopkins Bayview

Thanks

I interviewed all these places also. I really liked GW and Georgetown! Both probably lag behind on the prestige factor as compared to Hopkins or Maryland, but that's just me. GW and Georgetown are both at the top of my list. I am having difficulty ranking which comes first. I would love to hear your thoughts on the two.

I interviewed all these places also. I really liked GW and Georgetown! Both probably lag behind on the prestige factor as compared to Hopkins or Maryland, but that's just me. GW and Georgetown are both at the top of my list. I am having difficulty ranking which comes first. I would love to hear your thoughts on the two.


Actually have my GW interview next week. But i will definitely let you know. I liked georgetown but I'm not to thrilled with the amount of hospitals they rotate through.

Bayview is in the lead and I was wondering if there are any particular reasons? Also what are the thoughts on university of maryland?

honestly I ranked georgetown first because it seemed the most fun and they matched well in all their specialties. Md was a great place to but crappy town, didnt do hopkins bayview, GW was nice but felt I clicked better at georgetown. if it was solely how well known id go with Md. but DC is so much more fun

honestly I ranked georgetown first because it seemed the most fun and they matched well in all their specialties. Md was a great place to but crappy town, didnt do hopkins bayview, GW was nice but felt I clicked better at georgetown. if it was solely how well known id go with Md. but DC is so much more fun

Thanks for the input! You helped a lot.

I interviewed at both Georgetown and Hopkins Bayview. I considered but rejected GW and Maryland as options.

Hopkins Bayview is, as the voting suggests, a MUCH stronger program than Georgetown.

Bayview has the informal name "Hopkins with a heart". The faculty, staff and residents were the most personable and friendly that I met on the interview trail. The residency program is well structured with tracks to suit all from the hard-core researcher to the the hospitalist, general internal medicine clinic doc or future subspecialist. The faculty are 100% Hopkins faculty and the housestaff from Hopkins Hospital rotate through the ICUs in their 2nd and 3rd years. The Medical School Academic Departments are split between the two campuses (Hopkins hospital downtown and Hopkins Bayview) except for Allergy, Rheum and Geriatrics which are almost all based at Bayview.

The Match list, for a small program, is unbelievable:

http://www.hopkinsbayview.org/medicine/residency/lifeafterresidency.html

Bayview is one of the best kept secrets in Internal Medicine. It has a faculty and match list that places it in the elite 1-2% of programs in the US but is small (and unknown) enough that it still reads ALL applications by hand.

In contrast, I got the impression, while the medical residency director is a hero and will have revived the program in 5-10yrs, that Georgetown wasn't what it was 20 or 30 years ago. The facility itself was shabby. The residents seemed "okay" but not super-happy. My faculty interviewer at Georgetown commented on how she thought the resident quality there was "patchy" and not as strong as in decades before. I'm not sure if that is true but the fact an interviewer would even think to mention that left me with a bad feeling.

Georgetown is undoubtedly the 3rd best program in the DC-Balt area (and is sure to get stronger with their awesome residency director) but can't compete with Hopkins and Hopkins Bayview:

Johns Hopkins > Hopkins Bayview >>> Georgetown > GW = Maryland > Others (WHC, FSH, Good Sam, Sinai).

have to agree with ganong's description of hopkins bayview. very friendly, personable faculty, that actually reads applications closely (my interview invitation was a personal email), great fellowship placement, and great GIM and ambulatory curriculum.

i liked GW > Georgetown for its access to the school of public health, nice hospital, and interesting primary care curriculum, but would guess that they're about equal overall.

georgetown appears to have better fellowship placement than GW and more reserach opportunities

I think the above 2 posts are both true. I get the impression that Georgetown and GWU are fairly comparable, but felt like Georgetown tries to be more academic (but would be a harder residency also).

My impression is that GWU is likelier a bit more cushy (newer hospital, use of PDA's, probably more warm and fuzzy vs. Georgetown) and more public health+primary care oriented, while Georgetown is more researchy and more of a place to go if you want to get a fellowship in a more competitive field like GI or cards.

Loved Bayview! Maryland a bit less so. As posters stated, JHU/Bayview is a very personable program, with great training nevertheless. I think the size of the program and the fact that all the faculty is JHU Medicine appointed gives a trainee a plethora of mentoring options that ultimately will result in excellent career placements (whether going into fellowship or into practice).
Maryland also has wonderful faculty but due to the size of the program and structure of the day one doesn't get to interact with many of them. Actually, I'd have preferred to have been interviewed by more than one faculty member. As for the training goes, it's definitely not cushy. Rotating in an amazing VA is a great asset to an already strong program.

I interviewed at those hospitals 3 years ago for IM.

At that time my ranking would be U of MD > Georgetown > Bayview > GW.

All of the above programs provide strong training, great faculty/research, and fellowships opportunities.

I do agree that the personal invitation email that Bayview sent was a very nice touch. The Associate PD wrote the email; she was cool and down-to-earth nice. Weird thing was that I did not have the chance to speak with the PD himself (was not interviewed by him).

GW is a hip program (nice location by the White House).

I have warm fuzzy feeling when thinking about Baltimore: inner harbor, Chesapeake crabs paired with cold Amstel light or Sam Adams, and the $10 per person sushi/korean bbq buffet :laugh:

You don't have to live in downtown Baltimore (by the MLK); you can live in Columbia, Towson, White Marsh, etc where it is affordable nice, and safe. Don't live by MLK or Brooklyn/ Glen Burnie though.

Anyway, I matched to a program in a really cold place (although I love my program; my PD is so awesome and very supportive to all the residents in our program). Weird to say that I miss Baltimore, its massive potholes everywhere, and the mild winters.