My Rank List:

1 Metrohealth Med Ctr-OH
2 Ohio State Univ Med Ctr-OH
3 U TX SW Med Sch-Dallas
4 LSU SOM-New Orleans-LA
5 St Vincent Mercy Med/SVC-OH
6 Orlando Reg Healthcare-FL
7 Vanderbilt Univ Med-TN
8 Christiana Care-DE
9 U Florida HSC-Jacksonville
10 U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor
11 Summa Health/NEOUCOM-OH
12 Wright State Univ SOM-OH
13 Akron Gen Med/NEOUCOM-OH
14 Univ Maryland Med Ctr
15 WV Univ Hosp-Morgantown

my rank list:

1 Cincinnati
2 LSU New Orleans
3 Harvard MGH/BW
4 U of North Carolina
5 U of Maryland combined Peds/EM
6 Vanderbilt
7 Eastern Virginia Medical School

My rank list

1. UC Davis
2. Harbor UCLA
3. Stanford
4. UCLA Olive View
5. OHSU
6. UC Irvine
7. USC
8. Palmetto Richland
9. UF Jacksonville

Not ranking:
Kern, Medical College of GA

i'm surprised you ranked stanford so high. What things do you like/dislike about hte program? Doyou think the driving is too crazy? Too many hours?

1. USC
2. Stanford
3. Kern
4. Stanford (Gen. Surg.)
5. UCSF-Eastbay (Gen. Surg.)
6. UCSF-Fresno (Gen. Surg.)
7. Pitt
8. UMass
9. BU

My ROL:

1. Univ S. FL (Tampa General)
2. Univ of Maryland
3. Univ of FL
4. MetroHealth/MikeCWRU
5. Akron General Medical Center
6. York Hospital
7. Allegheny General Hosp
8. St. Vincent's Hospital (Toledo)


I kept my list very short as I did not want to go to half the places I interviewed...

1. Madigan
2. UConn
3. Copper - Camden, NJ
4. Jefferson
5. UMass
6. BI Deaconess
7. MCPH (Drexel)
8. Morristown
9. Albert Einstein/Beth Israel - NYC
10. Jacobi/Montefiore

Good luck to All!!!1

Originally posted by Future EM?
i'm surprised you ranked stanford so high. What things do you like/dislike about hte program? Doyou think the driving is too crazy? Too many hours?

Location, Location, Location. The Bay area is great....

Yeah I agree the commute will potentially suck, but the residents feel the exposure you get at SF General is amazing.

Lots of perks. $3000 moving stipend. Many resident retreats, ect.

The residents were very laid back and I felt like I really clicked with them.

Hoping I get my top choice, but would be thrilled to go down to #6.

For those who were eagerly hoping, here's my long-awaited, super-secret rank order list:

1) Orlando Regional
2) Palmetto Richland
3) East Carolina University
4) Vanderbilt University
5) Univ. of Florida - Jacksonville
6) Wake Forest University
7) West Virginia University
8) Ohio State University
9) Univ. of Louisville
10) Univ. of Kentucky

1. NY-Presbyterian
2. Tampa General (USF)
3. Mt. Sinai
4. St. John's-Detroit
5. SUNY-Buffalo

Meager, but it's all I gots.

1) U. Rochester
2) Saint Vincent-Mercy
3) Kalamazoo
4) Grand Rapids
5) U Mass
6) SUNY Upstate
7) UNM
8) Saginaw
9) William Beaumont
10) Allegheny
11) Metrohealth
12) Barnes- Jewish, St. Louis
13) Univ of Buffalo

My Rank List:

1. U Mass
2. Baystate
3. Christiana Care
4. Maine Medical Center
5. SUNY Upstate - Syracuse
6. University of Cincinnati
7. St. Vincent's Mercy Medical Center - Toledo
8. Albert Einstein - Philadelphia
9 University of Maryland
10. Metrohealth Medical Center
11. Geisinger Medical Center
12. U Conn
13. Yale


Good Luck to Everyone!

1. U of Arizona
2. UC-Davis
3. U of New Mexico
4. Indiana
5. Maricopa
6. Oregon
7. Hennepin
8. Loma Linda
9. Pittsburgh
10. Maine
11. Grand Rapids
12. Rochester
13. Albany
14. Stanford
15. Harbor-UCLA

Not ranking: UC-Irvine, Wright State, Syracuse, Regions/St. Paul

Hey M&M, for only being an hour apart, Buffalo and Rochester sure made a different impression on you. Was it the attending who rips on the interns while the applicant tour is marching by? Tonem, you got one weird list. You'd rather be a general surgeon than go to Pittsburgh? Geez, what does that say about Pittsburgh? Hey KickBackDude, don't make me post your list for you, I know you're reading this. And MikeCWRU, thanks for not making me the only one who went to too many interviews.

My list
Hey Desp. It would be pretty cool if we both end up in Arizona.

1. Maricopa, AZ
2. Wake Forest, NC
3. Madigan, WA
4. Albany (hey Desp, bet you're surprised about this one being so high), NY
5. Rochester, NY
6. SUNY Syracuse, NY
7. Christiana Care, DE
8. Advocate Christ Medical Center, IL
9. Resurrection, IL
10. UConn, CT
11. Stanford, CA
12. Regions, MN
13. Mayo, MN
14. SUNY Buffalo, NY
15. Drew, CA

Did not rank: Duke, UCSF Fresno or Kern

Here's mine


1 1109110C0 Emergency Medicine
U So Florida COM-Tampa
2 1221110C0 Emergency Medicine
Earl K Long Med Ctr-LA
3 1541110C0 Emergency Medicine
Summa Health/NEOUCOM-OH
4 1553110C0 Emergency Medicine
Metrohealth Med Ctr-OH
5 1175110C0 Emergency Medicine
U IL-St Francis Med Ctr
6 1315110C0 Emergency Medicine
Sparrow Hosp-MI
7 1295110C0 Emergency Medicine
WSU/Detroit Med Ctr-MI
8 1302110C0 Emergency Medicine
Sinai-Grace Hospital-MI
9 1915110C0 Emergency Medicine
St John Hospital-MI
10 1605110C0 Emergency Medicine
St Lukes-Bethlehem-PA
11 1516110C0 Emergency Medicine
SUNY Upstate Medical University
12 1467110C0 Emergency Medicine
N Shore U-Manhasset-NY
13 1608110C0 Emergency Medicine
Geisinger Hlth System-PA

<sigh> I tried.

Originally posted by edinOH
Here's mine


1 1109110C0 Emergency Medicine
U So Florida COM-Tampa
2 1221110C0 Emergency Medicine
Earl K Long Med Ctr-LA
3 1541110C0 Emergency Medicine
Summa Health/NEOUCOM-OH
4 1553110C0 Emergency Medicine
Metrohealth Med Ctr-OH
5 1175110C0 Emergency Medicine
U IL-St Francis Med Ctr
6 1315110C0 Emergency Medicine
Sparrow Hosp-MI
7 1295110C0 Emergency Medicine
WSU/Detroit Med Ctr-MI
8 1302110C0 Emergency Medicine
Sinai-Grace Hospital-MI
9 1915110C0 Emergency Medicine
St John Hospital-MI
10 1605110C0 Emergency Medicine
St Lukes-Bethlehem-PA
11 1516110C0 Emergency Medicine
SUNY Upstate Medical University
12 1467110C0 Emergency Medicine
N Shore U-Manhasset-NY
13 1608110C0 Emergency Medicine
Geisinger Hlth System-PA

The only bad thing about Pittsburgh is that it's 2000 miles from California.

Here's my rank order list of programs that have missed out on me!

1) Saginaw
2) Christ
3) Resurrection
4) U of I
5) Grand Rapids EM program
6) and everyone else!

All you programs will just have to wait for my next year's application!:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

This is what we've all been waiting for. So cool to see everyone's ROL finally.

Here's mine:

1) St. Luke's-Roosevelt
2) Methodist (NY)
3) North Shore
4) Jefferson
5) Tampa
6) Metrohealth (yuck)
7) Emory (double-yuck)
8-12 are all super-yucks


Annette, I didn't understand your last message - were those programs you left off your ROL?

hornet,
my understanding of annette's message was that those are the programs that are going to miss out by not giving her/him an interview.

Originally posted by Hornet871
This is what we've all been waiting for. So cool to see everyone's ROL finally.

Here's mine:

1) St. Luke's-Roosevelt
2) Methodist (NY)
3) North Shore
4) Jefferson
5) Tampa
6) Metrohealth (yuck)
7) Emory (double-yuck)
8-12 are all super-yucks



WOW, Hornet....after all that bad talking about how "those guys suck - every one of 'em, from the PD down to the look-how-bad-ass-we-are residents" you ranked SLR #1. Is this a joke? Did you mis-use our trust? What's up, dude?



My Rank List:
1. St. Luke's-Roosevelt
2. Emory
3. Univ of Chicago
4. Univ of FL
5. Cook Cty
6. Mt. Sinai
7. GWU
8. Thomas Jefferson
9. Jacobi
10. Boston U
11. UAB
12. SUNY Downstate
13. Albert Einstein- PA

Sweetfynesse, you do deserve an explanation. Two things happened that changed my mind regarding SLRHC:

1) Second look: The PD wasn't quite such an ass when met outside the interview. He didn't begin our second meeting as he did our first: "You're the 14th person I'm interviewing today. Is there really anything you can tell me I haven't heard already?"

During the second look, the residents I met were nicer, albeit still somewhat snotty. Without the hot female EM applicants around to hit on, the guys were much nicer this time. (Again, they were still kind of snobbish.)

So why did I pick SLRHC, despite my not loving the residents and PD?

Brings me to reason #2.

2) A woman. An intelligent, beautiful woman with a whorish demeanor but the heart of a virgin pixie. She lives in NYC and I'm chasing her. So I picked the program closest to where she lives. That's it.

To hell with all the advice people give you about picking a residency program.

Thanks for the explanation. After all this time, I was about to question the entire validity of statements posted on this forum...I know many people only use forums such as this to get, get, get information from other students/res/attd, never planning to add their 2 cents.

I am glad you went to the second look to get a better prospective of the program. I, too, did a second look, more so because I was in town for another interview and thought it might help. I liked their program from the first day I interviewed. I interviewed there on their first day, so I guess the PD was still fresh (although, he was still seemed to lack the best personality). Yet, I had a strong gut feeling about the place that couldn't be denied...

There are definitely alot of factors to consider when choosing a program, and I don't blame you one bit for considering your whorish woman. I if I had a mandingo man, he would've factored in my decision as well. For me, I've always wanted to live in NYC for a variety of reasons. In terms of prestige, SLR doesn't compare to many places on my ROL, but I had to consider the entire package, not just the residency program itself b/c we'll get great training anywhere. Anyway, I have a whole life...at least I like to think so. Hey, maybe will meet on the other side...

sweetfynesse

Thought I should actually contribute to a thread for once...

1. Wake Forest
2. Hennepin
3. Christiana Care
4. Med Coll of Georgia
5. Baystate
6. U of Michigan
7. U Texas Southwestern
8. Emory
9. Jacksonville
10. Greenville
11. Resurrection
12. Regions
13. NY Methodist
14. Beth Israel
15. Cook County

this is a great thread. Since it's out of our hands now....keep the rank lists coming. I find it very intriguing how varied some of the programs on an individual's list (Location, new programs, 2-4 higher than 1-3 and vice versa). This confirms (or will confirm after match day) that there is a spot for the majority of the applicants.

Here's mine:

1) U Chicago
2) SLR
3) NYP
4) Cook
5) Maryland
6) Jefferson
7) BI-NYC
8) SUNY-Stony
9) Mt.Sinai
10) Drew

as you can see, it makes little sense. I went with my gut. For me each program has its advantages and disadvantages. I would be happy at any of those programs.

let's keep this thread moving...

My ROL:

1. Palmetto Richland
2. University of Arizona
3. Maricopa
4. Rochester
5. Vanderbilt
6. Christiana
7. University of Connecticut
8. University of Texas - Southwestern
9. MetroHealth
10. Akron General
11. Saginaw
12. USF - Tampa
13. Thomas Jefferson
14. Detroit Receiving
15. SUMMA
16. Mayo
17. Henry Ford

Did not rank Sinai-Grace or Yale.

Before anybody goes ballistic, I am well aware that this list is longer than 15 programs and that I spent an extra $60. My advisor and mentor recommended that I list every possible program I could even if it meant spending more money because he said it beat the scramble. I don?t expect to go very far down, but given some of the problems my school has come across in the EM match in recent years, I felt the $60 was well spent.

Good luck to everyone on March 20!

YEAH, NUKE!!!!!!!!

Hornet, Blackcat is right. Unlike Quinn, though, I don't give out mixed signals by using a picture of a beautiful woman as my avatar! Quinn in a thong? Thought you guys didn't like wedgies?

Just a quick question or questions.

For those of you who did not apply to Sinai-Grace Hospital, was there a particular reason?

For those of you who did not rank Sinai-Grace who interviewed there, what caused you to make your decision (i.e. snoopy).

For those of you who did rank it; however, ranked it down on your list, what was it that caused you to place it where you did?

As a resident there, I am just curious to hear what people have to say, what their impressions are/were, and what can be done to improve the program, and the interview experience.

Thank you.

Originally posted by EMIMG
Just a quick question or questions.

For those of you who did not apply to Sinai-Grace Hospital, was there a particular reason?

For those of you who did not rank Sinai-Grace who interviewed there, what caused you to make your decision (i.e. snoopy).

For those of you who did rank it; however, ranked it down on your list, what was it that caused you to place it where you did?

As a resident there, I am just curious to hear what people have to say, what their impressions are/were, and what can be done to improve the program, and the interview experience.

Thank you.

I applied to Sinai-Grace, but declined the interview. I actually don't know much about the program, but I did know that I didn't wanna spend the next few years in Detroit. Obviously I didn't do enough thinking prior to applying to a $hit load of programs. Thus, I also turned down Wayne State Univ, St. John's, and Henry Ford...

Good luck with your survey...

1 1548110C0 Emergency Medicine
Univ Hosp Cincinnati-OH
2 1293110C0 Emergency Medicine
U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor
3 1224110C0 Emergency Medicine
LSU SOM-New Orleans-LA
4 1553110C0 Emergency Medicine
Metrohealth Med Ctr-OH
5 1099110C0 Emergency Medicine
Christiana Care-DE
6 1566110C0 Emergency Medicine
Ohio State Univ Med Ctr-OH
7 3050110C0 Emergency Medicine
Univ Mass Med School
8 1089110C0 Emergency Medicine
Yale-New Haven Hosp-CT
9 1353110C0 Emergency Medicine
Barnes-Jewish Hosp-MO
10 2919110C0 Emergency Medicine
Stony Brook Teach Hosps-NY
11 1467110C0 Emergency Medicine
N Shore U-Manhasset-NY
12 1426110C0 Emergency Medicine
SUNY HSC Brooklyn-NY
13 1648110C0 Emergency Medicine
Allegheny Gen Hosp-PA
14 1542110C0 Emergency Medicine
Akron Gen Med/NEOUCOM-OH
15 1608110C0 Emergency Medicine
Geisinger Hlth System-PA

I guess if any interviewers out there memorized my response to "where else did you interview?" they can now figure out who I am but alas it would not matter.

Calm down, Shaft! No PD is going to ID you. Sheesh! The paranoia of some people - honestly, I hope you were kidding. (I just gave you an out. Take it.)


Grrrrrr... everyone seems to have ranked SLR highly, and said everyone seems to belong to the elite class of candidate (based on the other programs interviewed at and ranked), so my sorry arse has little chance of matching at SLR. Oh well, Methodist ain't far from the city, right? I can still commute to chase my woman.


Sweetfynesse: my woman is not "whorish" but has a "whorish demeanor"; her heart is that of a virgin pixie's, remember? Please don't be callin' my woman (who isn't mine, who may never be mine) whorish. She's a sweet kid.


MikeCWRU: Thanks for starting the greatest thread ever. Pioneers like you....

So my ROL is pretty scattered..... But somewhere in the deep recesses of my skull it makes sense.

1. Harbor
2. Highland
3. Brown
4. Pitt
5. USC
6. OHSU
7. Davis
8. Christiana
9...........................................



I am pretty sure Id be happy at any of these. After these it gets a bit sketchy. The only programs I did not rank were Vandy, Cincy and UCLA Oliveview.

In response to your question about Sinai Grace...

Overall I thought that it would be a good place to train. It was obvious that they see a very high acuity pt and the residents have plentiful and early opportunities for experience in procedures and management of critical pts.

A couple of turn offs were that many of the FMG residents there seemed to have quite a chip on their shoulders about the fact that they were FMGs. It isn't exactly something I can put my finger on but some seemed to resent the fact that I am a U.S. grad interviewing at "their" program. The theme almost was "We as residents prefer FMGs since they are discriminated against at all the other programs." I remember one resident in particular who would ask about some of the other programs I was interviewing at. When I told him he would begin to rag on some because "they wouldn't give him a chance since he was an FMG." This exchange left me with some concern about how well I would fit in with some of the personalities there.

Another concerning aspect of my visit was the recurrent theme of "We are really so much better than all the other residencies in town since we see more critical patients than any other." This comment was made mainly in reference to Detroit Receiving. It seemed like they were more concerened with comparing themselves to the competition than just introducing the candidates to their program.

I did think the PD was a pretty solid guy and I thought Dr. Barton was a very nice and interesting person. (Interesting in a good way). As I stated previously, I do think that one can receive good training there. Possibly superior in respect to level of critical care experience in the first year compared to others. I did in fact rank the place near the middle of my list so I am obviously prepared to go there if it comes to that. I personally don't find the prospect of living in Detroit that big of a deal. There are ample suburban type areas relatively near the hospital. It isn't like you have to live in a burned out warehouse downtown if you live in Detroit.

Hope this answers some of your questions.

Being an FMG (and ripped to shreds by Mike in a prior post), Sinai-Grace AND DRH both shot me down (and my school is ALL OVER those programs); the DRH PD I emailed wrote back saying, "I rereviewed your app, and I stand by my decision.

I'm very selective...I'll only go to a program that takes me.

You should have realized by now that Mike is a complete bastard. :D I hear it has something to do with a lack of sex...

Originally posted by edinOH
You should have realized by now that Mike is a complete bastard. :D I hear it has something to do with a lack of sex...
.... and being unloved as a child.

mike

My list:

1) U. North Carolina
2) Johns Hopkins
3) Beth Israel Deaconess
4) Christiana Care
5) U. Pittsburgh
6) Temple
7) Cooper
8) St. Luke's-Roosevelt
9) U. Maryland
10) U. Virginia
11) Brigham&Womens/Mass General
12) Jefferson
13) Duke

Your lists are all great! Really, it is much appreciated. I know there is that poll about which number on your ROL you matched too, but maybe you could all put up where you matched after you ROL. Just a thought. As a 3rd year, I thank you all.

I know this forum is a micro-representation of all EM students, but I was curious as to the conspicuous absence of anyone ranking UPENN. I saw several people ranking nearby Philly programs (Einstein, Jefferson, Temple) but no one even mentioned not ranking UPENN.

Is this because they did not offer anyone here an interview, no one here applied there, or something else?

Just curious, thanks.

1. Henry Ford
2. Sinai-Grace
3. St. John
4. Tampa
5. Sparrow
6. Maimonides
7. Saginaw
8. Metropolitan
9. Brooklyn
10. West Virginia
11. Mississippi

Coleman,

I didn't apply to U.Penn - I wasn't interested in a 4 year program in Philly, especially with several good 3 year programs in the area.

I know several people who interviewed there and liked it, but none are ranking it towards the top of their list.

Actually there are some safeguards in place for people who do not certify their list in time (at least at my school). What happens is that the student affairs office can download a list of students who have not yet certified and contact those students the day before it is due. Plus, the day after the certified lists are due a person from nrmp calls the med school representative if there are uncertified lists so that they can contact the students and get the lists certified (late). I was surprised to hear that you don't just scramble, but figured with all the time and money spent on this process there must be a safety net.

4 years?
Philadelphia?
And you have to ask?

Seriously though, I've heard nothing but good things about UPenn, but I made my initial app list off of 2 things: location, and length of program.

Originally posted by sweetfynesse
I applied to Sinai-Grace, but declined the interview. I actually don't know much about the program, but I did know that I didn't wanna spend the next few years in Detroit. Obviously I didn't do enough thinking prior to applying to a $hit load of programs. Thus, I also turned down Wayne State Univ, St. John's, and Henry Ford...

Good luck with your survey...


Exact same scenario here. I went with the shot gun approach, got interviews at every single program in Detroit, and declined them all after I realized I had enough interviews elsewhere.

Originally posted by Desperado
1. U of Arizona
2. UC-Davis
3. U of New Mexico
4. Indiana
5. Maricopa
6. Oregon
7. Hennepin
8. Loma Linda
9. Pittsburgh
10. Maine
11. Grand Rapids
12. Rochester
13. Albany
14. Stanford
15. Harbor-UCLA

Not ranking: UC-Irvine, Wright State, Syracuse, Regions/St. Paul

Hey M&M, for only being an hour apart, Buffalo and Rochester sure made a different impression on you. Was it the attending who rips on the interns while the applicant tour is marching by? Tonem, you got one weird list. You'd rather be a general surgeon than go to Pittsburgh? Geez, what does that say about Pittsburgh? Hey KickBackDude, don't make me post your list for you, I know you're reading this. And MikeCWRU, thanks for not making me the only one who went to too many interviews.


I just did not like the PD at Buffalo for some reason. He rubs me the wrong way. Also I got the feeling he is very much against moonlighting. Since I am planning to moonlight, for the educational experience of it offcourse :D , I thought I would look somewhere else first. On the other hand, I loved the PD and the residents and every attending I met at Rochester. So, as far as I am concerned the two programs are as far from each other as if you had to go from one to the other on foot, in the winter.

1. Cincinnati
2. UC Davis
3. Denver
4. Hennepin
5. UCLA-Harbor
6. Med Col of Wisconsin
7. UC Irvine
8. UW/Madigan
9. Kalamazoo
10. Detroit Receiving
11. Kern
12. King-Drew

so quickly this 'best thread ever' has died down. i can't believe all those other people reading this aren't posting their lists!!

at least people participated here. i tried doing this in pm&r forum - complete waste of time!!! damn trolls+pissed+

happy to post my man's list:

1. maine
2. baystate
3. uconn
4. albany
5. christiana

can't remember the rest...!

just hoping for the top five.

good luck to everyone.

My list is fairly dependent upon family location.

1) UTSW Dallas
2) SUMMA Akron
3) Akron General
4) Kalamazoo
5) CWRU/MetroHealth
6) St. Vincent's Toledo

I interviewd at 12 total but am fairly confident that I wont have to go any further.

I would post my list from last year, but I can't for the life of me remember where I saved it.


Anyway, I notice no one listed UIC......any specific reasons?
I'd love to know.

First time looking at this site, but now I have a lot of time on my hands. Some people seem to have had too much time on their hands for quite a while now. Relax. Hopefully this is the last time I'll be here too because this ordeal is about over. Anyways, thought I'd share....
1)Maricopa
2)Orlando
3)UNC
4)Arizona
5)Denver
6)Maryland
7)Vanderbilt
8)EVMS
9)Christiana
10)Wake Forest
11)Palmetto
12)Emory
13)Virginia
14)Florida

Ranked everywhere because they were all liveable and I did significant weeding before I accepted interviews. Laterman, hope to see some of you next year.

So, here goes the rank list.
This list is dedicated to all of you out there who are geographically limited. As you can tell, it's NY or bust.
1) Kings County
2) NYP
3) Jacobi
4) Mt. Sinai
5) SLR
6) North Shore
7) LIJ

Here's my list

1 U Illinois COM-Chicago
2 Hennepin Co Med Ctr-MN
3 Univ Health Ctr of Pittsburgh-PA
4 Maricopa Med Ctr-AZ
5 Ohio State Univ Med Ctr-OH
6 Advocate Christ Med Ctr-IL
7 U New Mexico SOM
8 Med Coll Wisconsin Aff Hosps
9 Indiana Univ Sch Of Med
10 Loma Linda University-CA
11 U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor
12 Univ Hosp Cincinnati-OH
13 Resurrection Med Ctr-IL
14 N Shore U-Manhasset-NY
15 Cook County Hospital-IL

I had the hardest time making this list, must of changed the order 3-4 times a day, I would be happy at any of these programs, but I ended up ranking based on location given fact that I am single (haven't found my whorish pixie with the virgin heart), and my gut feeling.

So, here is my list, from an osteo applicant:

1. Yale University
2. University of Connecticut
3. Medical College of Georgia
4. University of South Carolina - Palmetto
5. St. Vincent's - Toledo
6. Maine Medical Center
7. East Carolina University
8. Regions Hospital - St. Paul

Butt cold temperatures this winter kept moving the southern programs up.

eemer - nice list!
i met you at jacobi.
good luck

blackcat, thanks for the encouragement.
good luck with everything.

My Rank list:

(1) Advocate Christ
(2) Resurrection Medical Center
(3) University of Illinois - Chicago
(4) University of Chicago
(5) St. Luke's Roosevelt - NY
(6) Beaumont Hospital - Royal Oak, MI
(7) Maricopa County - AZ
(8) Emory
(9) Henry Ford - Detroit
(10) Indiana Univ.
(11) Medical College of Wisconsin
(12) U. of Missouri - Kansas City
(13) Cook County
(14) Northwestern
(15) George Washington

Did not rank: Wayne State - Grace/Sinai, St. John

1 U New Mexico SOM
2 Ohio State Univ Med Ctr-OH
3 Christiana Care-DE
4 U Hlth Sys E Carolina-NC
5 Wake Forest Baptist Med Ctr-NC
6 Univ Mass Med School
7 Resurrection Med Ctr-IL
8 Univ of MO-KC Programs
9 Beth Israel Med Ctr-NY
10 Michigan St Univ Kalamazoo
11 U Michigan Hosp- MI
12 Cook County- IL
13 Wash U- IL
14 Emory Univ SOM-GA

These lists seem so random to me. Including mine.

1. Highland
2. St. Luke's-Rooselvelt
3. Cook County
4. Northwestern
5. Mt. Sinai (NYC)
6. Boston U.
7. USC
8. Einstein-BI (NYC)
9. Hennepin
10. Resurrection
11. WashU

I have been looking through all the rank lists, and no one has ranked the UI-Peoria program. Does anyone have any information about this program, and why is no one ranking it? Thanks!

Peoria is a great program...and the attendings are great as well. Remember, many times, people are attracted to "big names" and attractive locations...Peoria lacks both. But trust me, it is good (did a rotation there as a 4th year).
The RRC has strict control over all EM residencies for "quality assurance" . Within these strict guidelines, criteria are written and must be followed. Many times the lesser known residencies can be the biggest "find".

Is it me, or are Resurrection and St. Luke's-Roosevelt the two most commonly ranked programs to date on the lists posted? Granted, SLR tends to be ranked in everyone's top 3, while Resurrection often falls in the bottom 5.

My theory is that Resurrection, after scrambling to fill 5 of its 13 slots last year, was prudent (not prudish, like certain virgin pixie whores) this year and invited gobs of people to interview. They likely ranked many more people this year, as well.

Thoughts from those who interviewed at SLR and/or Res?

Osteopathic applicant; 215 on step 1, 241 on step 2:

1. UNM
2. OHSU
3. Med College of Wisconsin
4. Akron Gen
5. Duke
6. York
7. Metro
8. St. Lukes/Bethlehem
9. University of Illinois, Peoria
10. Univ of Texas, Houston
11. Texas Tech
12. Med College of Georgia
13. Geisinger

22 applications, 11 interviews

1. Arizona
2. Vanderbilt
3. Carolinas
4. Hennepin
5. Virginia
6. Wake Forest
7. Mayo
8. UMKC
9. Peoria
10. Advocate Christ

DNR---Virginia Commonwealth

All right Jaydoc! You're only the third person I know ranking Arizona numero uno. Hope we both luck out. 8 more days!!!!

I interviewed at both SLR in NY and Resurrection in Chicago, so here's my opinion.

The two programs are nothing alike. SLR is a solid program with excellent residents and a PD (sorry to disappoint) who has been trained at the toughest program in NY. Lanoix may be a little abraisive to talk to, but he has a great vision for his program and is a solid PD. Rotations at SLR are challenging and the residents take a lot of responsibility for their patients.

Resurrection is a joke. The high points of my tour were the cafeteria and the gym in the hospital. Now, no offense, but do you really think it is important to show me that your residents work out during their shift? The residents there were weak and lazy and the PD told me point blank he didn't want smart people in his program. He said he would rather mediocre students who he could mold, rather than ambitious, educated students who "might cause him problems."

Sorry to sound harsh, I have been keeping that info about Res to myself in case i had a different opinion than everyone else.

Eemer, relax, I don't think you stepped on anyone's toes. Honest opinions are treasured on this site. It's why we come to this forum: to speak freely about our interview experiences.

I agree with you in general about Res. Their primary focus was to be laid-back, it seemed. To me, that's a positive.

However, I think you misinterpreted the tour of the gym. No one said that residents work out at the gym during ED shifts - they're too busy. No, they're not swamped like people at Lincoln, but they don't have time to leave the ED and work out.

In fact, a friend who interviewed there asked the tour guide resident if they ever had time on off-service rotations to work out at the Res gym, and he said, "Well, technically there's enough time on some off-service rotations, but you're too tired/hungry to work out."

Of course, I'm getting all this info secondhand from a friend who interviewed there.

Now that ROLs are in, I hope no one is still paranoid about PDs reading this site. (Hell, even before ROLs were in, I was flinging truths, no matter how painful, in every post - PDs be damned.)

:clap:

Desperado, I hope that the three you know of includes yourself. I might start to worry if I thought there were four people that ranked Arizona number 1!

Good luck and I'll let you know next week...that is, if I can still find my computer after Thursday night.

Yea, its you, me, and one other guy from my school. I wouldn't worry too much about it though, they only interviewed 45, half as many as most programs, so our odds are pretty high.

great ROLs; though I wish I could have seen more (~5000 views, only 65 posts). I want to wish all best of luck on match day. I hope no one here (or anywhere) goes unmatched - I believe EM should be a specialty that anyone who wants it badly enough can match into (I hate when people in my med school say its too competitive for them).

And the match is just the beginning of our careers. I ended up at a much less prestigious school than I hoped to attend. But I took advantage of the situation and opportunity and managed to get practically every interview I applied for. What we do in our residency (and after) is much more important than where we do our residency.

Best Wishes.

That's quite nice of you, flEM...

I do wish everyone on here lots of luck. It has been a REAL fun... 4-5 months... I still remember all the logons during when interview offers were first being sent out... ah that was a fun time.

Good luck tomorrow and on Thursday!

If I match into my #1 choice I'll show you all my D's.

Q

Quinn & others, how did things turn out? Are you glad you are where you are? Was it close to the top of your list? Anyone have any tidbits "if you could do it all over"?

Thanks for any feedback!!!!

As I have said in other posts, I am very happy at where I am. It was not one of my first choices when deciding where to interview; in fact, I was going to cancel it when I received other "more-wanted" places (which I never did). Once I interviewed there, however, I was definately glad that I did not cancel it, and actually used it as my comparison for other interviews. This place quickly climbed to #1, and stayed there. So, to sum up:
before interviews - never heard of it, and didn't know much about it
during interviews - liked it a lot and used it to compare other places
after interviews - kept it as #1
matched at it and am extremely happy that I did :D .

Keep an open mind and suprising events may unfold, or as Sublime sings: "Once in a while you get shown in the light In the strangest of places if you look at it right."

thanks a million! :) I'm hoping I didn't decline any of those hidden gems, but I can't physically do much more than the 14 we have scheduled.

Everything has worked out great. I was a bit of a grumpy intern, but I am a happy senior. I think most every program will provide a more-than-adequate preparation for the real workd. Speaking of the real world, the job search is filled with opportunity and the promise of a new and exciting tax bracket.


......or as Sublime sings: "Once in a while you get shown in the light In the strangest of places if you look at it right."

Ahh, you kids. Love Sublime and this song Scarlett Begonias. This tune is actually one of the classics by the Grateful Dead, lovingly covered 20 years later by the late Bradley. :) This lesson should not be forgotten during the next 3 years: stop every now and then to listen to some good music that will make you tap your feet and carry you away from the inevitable troubles of residency.

Osteopathic applicant; 215 on step 1, 241 on step 2:

1. UNM
2. OHSU
3. Med College of Wisconsin
4. Akron Gen
5. Duke
6. York
7. Metro
8. St. Lukes/Bethlehem
9. University of Illinois, Peoria
10. Univ of Texas, Houston
11. Texas Tech
12. Med College of Georgia
13. Geisinger


hey fauci.

what school are you from.

LECOM 2006

My stats: Fair bit of research, top quartile of my class, Step 1: High 220s, Step 2: 230s.

Rank List:

#1 U Michigan. I liked the program director, and Ann Arbor seems like a great place to hang out and stay young. Long interview day, and a lot of repeat information, but the program was impressive. The two centers arrangement is a great combination of community and academic environments, in my opinion. You know that "tingly" feeling people talk about? I got it here. The interview day was a little long, but impressive nonetheless. Not sure if I really care about flying on the helicopter, but they have a strong flight program, the chief we met with was in a flight suit the whole day. Great physical plant. Good mix of young and old faculty. This is my top choice subject to me not being scared off by the 4 year program, but right now I’m trying to rank based on gut feeling without any consideration to 3 vs. 4 year. I reserve the right to change!

#2 Duke. The day started with "forum with the PD" which I had been told about on the trail. Was somebody trying to scare me off? It was relaxed (maybe they loosened up from feedback in the past?) and all it was a discussion on various topics led by the PD involving about half the interviewees (they divided us into two groups). Obviously, it was a way for the PD to get to know all the candidates in a relatively quick time frame, and to see how we all interacted with other people. It wasn't confrontational. I got to kind of "settle in" with some other nervous applicants, and i was much more relaxed by the time the interviews came around (which were relaxed anyway ... I didn't expect this at Duke!). I’m not worried about any “kinks”… If I match here, I’ll be the 5th class thru. The current residents say that things are established, and I battered them pretty hard at the dinner and lunch etc. to try and tease out any discord. New ED opening early to mid 2006; Young and energetic faculty with lots of great teaching so I’m told. Joint conferences with UNC sounded cool because twice as many contacts! I have been to Chapel HIll/Durham before so i know the patient population is a mix of inner city (Durham) and rich university admin types, so you get a good mix of violent/penetrating trauma and bread and butter elderly emerg med! The night before was a really good time with >50% of the residents in the program attending the event!

#3 UNC. To be honest, I had a hard time choosing between Duke and UNC, so it might flip flop yet. Mainly, the deciding factor was trauma since Duke gets the pathology that goes along with the low socioeconomic population in inner city Durham, cool for me because I’m a bit of a trauma junkie. On the other hand, UNC is the state burn center, very cool, but right now I’m not placing that much emphasis on burns. Interview, again, of the non-confrontation variety. I felt extremely welcome by the other residents, and have no doubt I would be happy here. Living arrangement wise, this one and Duke are going to be about the same as the Chapel Hill-Durham area is pretty much a continuum, and residents are a mix of renters and homeowners. Joint conferences as mentioned above, so lots of contacts. I am prioritizing this because I think it will help when it comes to getting a top job at the end. Physical plant pretty good.

Best of the rest:

#4: Denver
#5: UNM
#6: Ohio State

Still waiting to hear from Carolinas, and a few others including Arizona programs.

Good luck!

I interviewed at both SLR in NY and Resurrection in Chicago, so here's my opinion.

The two programs are nothing alike. SLR is a solid program with excellent residents and a PD (sorry to disappoint) who has been trained at the toughest program in NY. Lanoix may be a little abraisive to talk to, but he has a great vision for his program and is a solid PD. Rotations at SLR are challenging and the residents take a lot of responsibility for their patients.

Resurrection is a joke. The high points of my tour were the cafeteria and the gym in the hospital. Now, no offense, but do you really think it is important to show me that your residents work out during their shift? The residents there were weak and lazy and the PD told me point blank he didn't want smart people in his program. He said he would rather mediocre students who he could mold, rather than ambitious, educated students who "might cause him problems."

Sorry to sound harsh, I have been keeping that info about Res to myself in case i had a different opinion than everyone else.


:p I think it is so amusing that some people apparantly find Richard Lanoix abrassive. We all joke about how 'warm fuzzy' he is with the residents. Almost to a fault. While we usually include him in our annual graduation roast, he really is an amazing PD- a definate resident advocate.

And you guys really shouldn't worry about PD's seeing your rank list. I see several people who have interviewed here and I wouldn't be able to tell from the aliases who anyone was!


Regarding hindsight: I can honestly say that I would rerank SLR first over and over and over again. I absolutely love it. I love my co-workers, my attendings (okay maybe there is one or two I don't *love*), and all the other stuff rocks as well. I had never heard of the program when I came to interview and it was by far way ahead of any other program I visited. I love it so much I am staying on for two years as a Clinical Research and Education Fellow. :D :love: