Didn't see a '09-'10 thread for MSU, so I thought I would start one. This thread is for pre-DO students interested in attending MSU-COM.

Anyone complete yet ?

Anyone complete yet ?

I'm not submitting until my committee letter is ready...working on other applications while I wait...

Have you guys received the secondary app yet? I was wondering how many essay type questions there are, and if there is a character imit on them?

Have you guys received the secondary app yet? I was wondering how many essay type questions there are, and if there is a character imit on them?

One essay question, set to be one-page in length with font no smaller than 10pt.

I hadn't even considered applying to MSU, as I so desperately want to get out of this state. While working on my PS, I've realized a lot about what sort of physician I want to be, and MSU seems to be the best fit. And in-state tuition doesn't hurt, hah.

But it looks like I'm shooting myself in the foot by taking the July 31st MCAT :(

I hadn't even considered applying to MSU, as I so desperately want to get out of this state. While working on my PS, I've realized a lot about what sort of physician I want to be, and MSU seems to be the best fit. And in-state tuition doesn't hurt, hah.

But it looks like I'm shooting myself in the foot by taking the July 31st MCAT :(

its ok...MSU is also my number 1 choice and im also taking the july 31st mcat :( where are u taking it? lol

its ok...MSU is also my number 1 choice and im also taking the july 31st mcat :( where are u taking it? lol

The testing center on MSU's campus, haha. At least it will be a short walk. I'm a student here.

Edit: I should add that my adviser told me to call MSUCOM and ask if that was too late to be taking it. I called, and whoever answered said it'd be okay. But now I look at the website and get uneasy :(

Edit 2: Also, not entirely sure why anyone OOS would apply here. Over $60,000 A YEAR?!

The testing center on MSU's campus, haha. At least it will be a short walk. I'm a student here.

Edit: I should add that my adviser told me to call MSUCOM and ask if that was too late to be taking it. I called, and whoever answered said it'd be okay. But now I look at the website and get uneasy :(

Edit 2: Also, not entirely sure why anyone OOS would apply here. Over $60,000 A YEAR?!

yeah i met with the admission counsellor a couple weeks back she said it was okay...but she said as soon as u get the result...fax an unofficial copy to them so they can make a decision on that basis... :) dont wait for it to be officially sent thru amcas
and yeah...i dunno why anyone wud...its expensive PLUS def one of the harder schools to get into.

Faxing it is great advice. Thanks :)

yeah i met with the admission counsellor a couple weeks back she said it was okay...but she said as soon as u get the result...fax an unofficial copy to them so they can make a decision on that basis... :) dont wait for it to be officially sent thru amcas
and yeah...i dunno why anyone wud...its expensive PLUS def one of the harder schools to get into.

Definitely a good idea, was it Terri? She is an excellent advisor and has helped me greatly throughout my application processes.

MSU is my number one choice too, I haven't received the secondary yet but it is definitely a good idea to start organization your volunteer work and counting the hours because you will have to present that information.

I have been looking to apply to MSU-COM, but I am a little confused when I see an allopathic school on the same campus that is a college of "Human Medicine". How/why is this the case @ MSU? The college of Human Medicine (M.D.) seems to hold more osteopathic values than most allopathic schools.... can someone explain? Thanks.

Definitely a good idea, was it Terri? She is an excellent advisor and has helped me greatly throughout my application processes.

MSU is my number one choice too, I haven't received the secondary yet but it is definitely a good idea to start organization your volunteer work and counting the hours because you will have to present that information.

Yes I met with Terri. She was nice, altough she told me I do not have a great chance and I'm better off waiting a year. lol
I am applying this year tho.

If you don't mind, what are your stats? You can PM me if u want to :)
and I see you are in state as well. :)

I have been looking to apply to MSU-COM, but I am a little confused when I see an allopathic school on the same campus that is a college of "Human Medicine". How/why is this the case @ MSU? The college of Human Medicine (M.D.) seems to hold more osteopathic values than most allopathic schools.... can someone explain? Thanks.

It is a little weird, isn't it? I think the MD school was established earlier, and the DO school was creating with real emphasis on educating primary care physicians who will work in Michigan. I think it's worked, as Michigan is a great state for DOs.

At least in East Lansing, many of the classes are taught to both MD and DO students at once

Yup - for 1st year, almost all of our classes are together, in Conrad Hall. (COM does anatomy in the summer, and CHM does it in the fall). Although with new campuses sprouting up everywhere, I don't know how that changes stuff. But, I think COM is older? CHM started in 1964, anyway.

Yup - for 1st year, almost all of our classes are together, in Conrad Hall. (COM does anatomy in the summer, and CHM does it in the fall). Although with new campuses sprouting up everywhere, I don't know how that changes stuff. But, I think COM is older? CHM started in 1964, anyway.

I didn't have time to check when I posted earlier. According to the website, MSUCOM was founded in 1969.

I'm having a hard time figuring out who I'd want to write my letters, assuming I get that far in the application process.

I didn't have time to check when I posted earlier. According to the website, MSUCOM was founded in 1969.


Okay - so, not an appreciable difference, really. Interesting!
It really isn't weird that we take 1st year basic sciences together - there's chances to meet more friends. Though it gets really crowded in the fall, before everyone stops going to lecture...

I haven't sent in my primary yet, but hope to do so soon, as I am still working on my PS. (Plus I don't get my MCAT back for another two weeks or so).
For any of you who already are working on secondaries:what kind of questions do the evaluators have to answer?
Thanks :)

Sent out my two copies of the supplemental application today and $85 processing fee. My committee letter has been mailed to MSU, so now I have to wait on my second evaluation form--should be done by next week.

This was the most boring secondary application (next to Nova's).

Sent out my two copies of the supplemental application today and $85 processing fee. My committee letter has been mailed to MSU, so now I have to wait on my second evaluation form--should be done by next week.

This was the most boring secondary application (next to Nova's).

Nice, getting on top of things early, I haven't gotten my secondary yet.

How long are you guys describing the duties and responsibilities on the non-academic activities page?

I noticed there examples are just a few words, so I was planning on following that format too.

How long are you guys describing the duties and responsibilities on the non-academic activities page?

I noticed there examples are just a few words, so I was planning on following that format too.

That's what I did, it is just enough to describe the duty.

After the secondary application is received will MSUCOM notify the applicant on their secure application page? I know it says that it will when they have received your evaluation forms. I was just wondering since they should have my application by now and I haven't heard anything. The forms probably won't be there until early next week. Thanks for any input!!!

After the secondary application is received will MSUCOM notify the applicant on their secure application page? I know it says that it will when they have received your evaluation forms. I was just wondering since they should have my application by now and I haven't heard anything. The forms probably won't be there until early next week. Thanks for any input!!!

Did you use this link https://applstatus.com.msu.edu/?

The page looks identical to their login for the supplemental material, but an e-mail will be sent ASAP with an updated status of your file...

Did you use this link https://applstatus.com.msu.edu/?

The page looks identical to their login for the supplemental material, but an e-mail will be sent ASAP with an updated status of your file...




I was able to check it now. It says my evaluation forms have not been received yet. Hopefully by next week. Thanks for the help!!!

My status finally shows that my supplemental application has been received, except for the "Osteopathic Interest Evaluation." Is this the short survey we had to fill out with check boxes? I know I filled that out twice and put both copies in the envelope.

My Evaluation forms will be mailed by the end of this week.

My status finally shows that my supplemental application has been received, except for the "Osteopathic Interest Evaluation." Is this the short survey we had to fill out with check boxes? I know I filled that out twice and put both copies in the envelope.

My Evaluation forms will be mailed by the end of this week.

The same thing happened to me. I had all my stuff there for a few weeks and it showed "Y" next to everything except my evaluations. So I kept checking every couple of days to see if my evaluations had arrived and in doing so, I saw that the "Disciplinary Statement" had changed to "N." So I called them up and they said that they were in the process of switching over to a new system and it had some glitches. So, if you know you sent it, my bet is that they got it and it's just their computer messing up. You might want to call just to make sure, however. To answer your question, yes the "Osteopathic Interest Survey" was the one with the check boxes :)

Anyone complete yet ?

As of today, I am complete at MSUCOM :) When I spoke with an admissions lady a few weeks ago, she said that decisions would probably start being made in September. I don't know if I can just sit around and wait that long, haha.

The same thing happened to me. I had all my stuff there for a few weeks and it showed "Y" next to everything except my evaluations. So I kept checking every couple of days to see if my evaluations had arrived and in doing so, I saw that the "Disciplinary Statement" had changed to "N." So I called them up and they said that they were in the process of switching over to a new system and it had some glitches. So, if you know you sent it, my bet is that they got it and it's just their computer messing up. You might want to call just to make sure, however. To answer your question, yes the "Osteopathic Interest Survey" was the one with the check boxes :)

Much appreciated...congrats on being finished...

I haven't sent in my primary yet, but hope to do so soon, as I am still working on my PS. (Plus I don't get my MCAT back for another two weeks or so).
For any of you who already are working on secondaries:what kind of questions do the evaluators have to answer?
Thanks :)

Here is the form for this year:

Good advice...I called the admissions office this afternoon to double check on my "Osteopathic Interest Survey."

The office rep told me that they had all of my material, but, due to a computer glitch, the status of each item was not accurately displayed in their "file completion" e-mails.

Wow! I can't believe you guys are already complete. :thumbup:

Wow! I can't believe you guys are already complete. :thumbup:

Haha, I agree, I am still waiting.

anyone applying for/know anyone who is in the extended curriculum program?

anyone applying for/know anyone who is in the extended curriculum program?

what is that?

what is that?

Instead of medical school being 4 years, they extend the first two years into 3 years, totaling 5 years

http://www.com.msu.edu/ss/extended/overview.html

Instead of medical school being 4 years, they extend the first two years into 3 years, totaling 5 years

http://www.com.msu.edu/ss/extended/overview.html

Hmmm, wasn't aware of that.

Hmmm, wasn't aware of that.

Isn't it for people with families and other responsibilities?

Does anyone know when MSU will review the files? Being out of state, I don't know if they will review me later than the in state. I turned in my file in June.

I believe August...first acceptances should go out early September

I believe August...first acceptances should go out early September

This is exactly what they told me when I called a while ago :thumbup:.

Describe a personal experience or ethical challenge you have faced that has influenced the development of your character.

Does this experience/challenge have to be recent (ie a college experience)? I have an experience I want to write about but it's from a while ago.. think it's ok to use??

Describe a personal experience or ethical challenge you have faced that has influenced the development of your character.

Does this experience/challenge have to be recent (ie a college experience)? I have an experience I want to write about but it's from a while ago.. think it's ok to use??


It can be any time, it does not have to be recent.

Describe a personal experience or ethical challenge you have faced that has influenced the development of your character.


In my PS, I talked about an ethical challenge that influenced me and led me to pursue DO. Is it ok to use this same experience? I am writing a completely new essay going into more detail about it.

In my PS, I talked about an ethical challenge that influenced me and led me to pursue DO. Is it ok to use this same experience? I am writing a completely new essay going into more detail about it.

The CHM application asks a similar question and it says to not use any experience already in the application somewhere...I realize COM is a different school, but I would imagine you wouldn't want to use the same experience. If it were me, I would talk about something else.

I have been looking to apply to MSU-COM, but I am a little confused when I see an allopathic school on the same campus that is a college of "Human Medicine". How/why is this the case @ MSU? The college of Human Medicine (M.D.) seems to hold more osteopathic values than most allopathic schools.... can someone explain? Thanks.

Actually, there are 3 colleges of medicine: CHM, COM, and CVM (vet school). It's the only university in the country with 3 medical schools.

Actually, there are 3 colleges of medicine: CHM, COM, and CVM (vet school). It's the only university in the country with 3 medical schools.

Not trying to start a flame war, but the Vet school, isn't a Med school.

Not trying to start a flame war, but the Vet school, isn't a Med school.

then what's the point in addressing this?

I know that minimum to get a secondary app is 2.7 science... Does anybody know if there is anything I could do to get a secondary if i have a 2.68 ??

I know that minimum to get a secondary app is 2.7 science... Does anybody know if there is anything I could do to get a secondary if i have a 2.68 ??

Is this your official, verified AACOMAS GPA?? If so, there's probably nothing you can do for this cycle since MSU likes folks to have everything in before September for the best chance of acceptance. I think the only way they'd likely send you a secondary is if you were to update them of a summer course that you've completed that would likely push your GPA over 2.7. If you don't get in anywhere this year, I would suggest retaking a bunch of courses for next year if you have the time to do so to get that GPA up over 3.0. What's your MCAT? If that's really good, maybe they'll forgive you for being 0.02 points away from meeting the minimum.

I believe August...first acceptances should go out early September

So is it too late if I submit my primary right now near the end of August?

No not at all.

So is anybody having any beef with the requirement of the evaluation forms? I'm afraid I might have to throw in the towel on MSU due to the infeasability of aquiring evals this late in the game. should have researched it sooner.

damn unconventional schools.

So is anybody having any beef with the requirement of the evaluation forms? I'm afraid I might have to throw in the towel on MSU due to the infeasability of aquiring evals this late in the game. should have researched it sooner.

damn unconventional schools.

This application took the longest to become complete due to the evaluation forms, and MSU will not budge on any exceptions.

"Pay special attention to the evaluation form instructions. We require two completed forms, per the instructions. We do not waive this requirement. If you are unable to find two individuals to complete forms for you, you will be unable to complete your MSUCOM application."

#18...http://www.com.msu.edu/admissions/APP.NUTS.AND.BOLTS.html

Yeah, I'm throwing this secondary in the trash mainly b/c of these eval forms. I have 5 LOR's sitting in my file and can't use any of them, I don't feel like going back to my writers and asking them to fill more paper work out. Good luck to the rest of you.

No not at all.

For MSUCOM, this is very late. Verification is going to take a good 6 weeks, and they want everything in by September. This is not my opinion, this is what they have personally told me during a meeting.

Not trying to start a flame war, but the Vet school, isn't a Med school.

Uhhh, you are wrong. Seems like you would at least google it before saying something silly like that.

D.V.M. = Doctor of Veterinary Medicine = medical degree

http://cvm.msu.edu/

http://www.aavmc.org/

I am a re-applicant this year because I was waitlisted and later denied at MSU-COM for the 2009 cycle. MSU-COM had all my required documents in by August 5th. I met with the adviser, and I strengthened everything weak in my application besides my lower-end MCAT of 24.

How long should I expect to hear back? I didn't hear back until March last year, but I didn't finish my app until October either. I am very nervous because this is the only school I wish to go to.

Words of comfort, anyone?

Not sure if this is available anywhere, but I thought I'd post it.

Here is the class of 2013 profile:

Applications
Total Applicants 3,455
Class Size 315

Female/Male Ratio
Females 152
Males 163

Age Distribution
Youngest 20
Oldest 48
Average Age 24

Academic Qualifications
MCAT Average 8.80
GPA 3.57

Residency of Matriculants
Michigan Residents 292
Out-of-State 23

I am a re-applicant this year because I was waitlisted and later denied at MSU-COM for the 2009 cycle. MSU-COM had all my required documents in by August 5th. I met with the adviser, and I strengthened everything weak in my application besides my lower-end MCAT of 24.

How long should I expect to hear back? I didn't hear back until March last year, but I didn't finish my app until October either. I am very nervous because this is the only school I wish to go to.

Words of comfort, anyone?

Don't worry about the lower MCAT, they seem to be able to look past an MCAT score and evaluate applicants as a whole. So, if you have a strong application otherwise, just sit back and wait for the good news (especially considering you got waitlisted last year, and have since improved your application).

Don't worry about the lower MCAT, they seem to be able to look past an MCAT score and evaluate applicants as a whole. So, if you have a strong application otherwise, just sit back and wait for the good news (especially considering you got waitlisted last year, and have since improved your application).

Yes, MSUCOM doesn't hold a lot of weight with the MCAT. As long as you have gotten an 8 or better in each of the categories. I have been told that volunteer work and science GPA is what they consider to be most important. But hey, I am in the same position as you, I was waitlisted last year and I am hoping to get in this year with improvements to my application!

Yes, MSUCOM doesn't hold a lot of weight with the MCAT. As long as you have gotten an 8 or better in each of the categories. I have been told that volunteer work and science GPA is what they consider to be most important. But hey, I am in the same position as you, I was waitlisted last year and I am hoping to get in this year with improvements to my application!


Thanks guys. Let's hope for the best for us!

For MSUCOM, this is very late. Verification is going to take a good 6 weeks, and they want everything in by September. This is not my opinion, this is what they have personally told me during a meeting.

Well my experience dosn't support this but whatever, if people dont want to apply then that's their choice. The evals are hard and weird, but I know people complete after Sept. last year and got in.

Well my experience dosn't support this but whatever, if people dont want to apply then that's their choice. The evals are hard and weird, but I know people complete after Sept. last year and got in.

People definitely get in that have their application complete after Sept. I have seen it all the time on these threads. Actually, a friend of mine got in and he was complete in Oct! So, it all depends on the strength of your application and how familiar they are with you.

Yeah if you want to go here dont let the dates deter you!

Well my experience dosn't support this but whatever, if people dont want to apply then that's their choice. The evals are hard and weird, but I know people complete after Sept. last year and got in.

Well that's fine, but it's certainly to your advantage to get it in as soon as possible.

I still have not received the secondary from MSUCOM. I was verified in mid-July by AACOMAS. Has anyone else not received it yet? Should i call them and ask what's wrong?

I still have not received the secondary from MSUCOM. I was verified in mid-July by AACOMAS. Has anyone else not received it yet? Should i call them and ask what's wrong?

Did you meet the cutoffs?

Did you meet the cutoffs?


umm i think so? i have a 26 mcat and 3.78 gpa

umm i think so? i have a 26 mcat and 3.78 gpa

Ya you definitely meet the cut off, I would call them if I were you.

I just thought about this... I was complete August 5th with my secondary. But on my primary, I indicated that I planned on retaking the MCAT, which I did, but I dont want to release my latest scores to aacomas. Will MSU-COM wait for these scores or go along with my old ones, which meet their cutoffs?

i wish i checked their oos tuition before i paid for a primary to this place. $64,000 a year for oos? that's obnoxious.

Not sure if this is available anywhere, but I thought I'd post it.

Here is the class of 2013 profile:

Applications
Total Applicants 3,455
Class Size 315

Female/Male Ratio
Females 152
Males 163

Age Distribution
Youngest 20
Oldest 48
Average Age 24

Academic Qualifications
MCAT Average 8.80
GPA 3.57

Residency of Matriculants
Michigan Residents 292
Out-of-State 23

surprised they have any oo-staters at all. i cant get over 64 large a year.

surprised they have any oo-staters at all. i cant get over 64 large a year.

There was a post about OOS tuition for MSU and supposedly if an OOS attends the school gives them a number of grants that knock the tuition down somewhat.

This may not be true but would be interesting if a current OOS MSU student could post on here about it. It wouldnt surprise me since many times grant money is given by the federal governement, so the school charges huge OOS tuition because it knows it will get its money anyway, even if a lot is not from the student.

Yeah, I'm throwing this secondary in the trash mainly b/c of these eval forms. I have 5 LOR's sitting in my file and can't use any of them, I don't feel like going back to my writers and asking them to fill more paper work out. Good luck to the rest of you.


woooooooooooorrrrrd

I just thought about this... I was complete August 5th with my secondary. But on my primary, I indicated that I planned on retaking the MCAT, which I did, but I dont want to release my latest scores to aacomas. Will MSU-COM wait for these scores or go along with my old ones, which meet their cutoffs?

bump

bump

AACOMAS is different from AMCAS where as if you take an MCAT, AMCAS automatically gets it. AACOMAS must be forwarded the score from AAMC. So if you bombed your retake, just don't talk about it. If asked be like "I don't wish to include my MCAT score retake in my evulation as a potential medical school candidate."

i'm just now beginning to finish this secondary and completly ignored the 60k a year tuition, wtf? that is just ridiculous, looks like MSU is gonna be a no go for me

i'm just now beginning to finish this secondary and completly ignored the 60k a year tuition, wtf? that is just ridiculous, looks like MSU is gonna be a no go for me

actually with fees its more like 65k a year, sans living expenses.

Hey, I am sure this has been brought up, but you can use more than one experience with the essay right?

the high tuition is the ONLY reason i did not apply to this school.

Hey, I am sure this has been brought up, but you can use more than one experience with the essay right?

If you can package your multiple experiences into one very coherent essay, then, absolutely, touch on all of them.

Good luck!

If you can package your multiple experiences into one very coherent essay, then, absolutely, touch on all of them.

Good luck!

Sounds good, I have 2 experiences within the past year so I was going to say my experience was this whole past year.

And Thank you!

Potentially less than one week away from the first round of acceptances going out?

Anyone else anxiously awaiting next Wednesday?

the high tuition is the ONLY reason i did not apply to this school.

ditto that

for the essay question, it says describe a personal experience OR ethical challenge...so my personal experience doesnt have to be an ethical challenge right?

for the essay question, it says describe a personal experience OR ethical challenge...so my personal experience doesnt have to be an ethical challenge right?

Correct.

Potentially less than one week away from the first round of acceptances going out?

Anyone else anxiously awaiting next Wednesday?

Anxiously waiting is almost an understatement... When were you complete? I was complete on August 5th.

Potentially less than one week away from the first round of acceptances going out?

Anyone else anxiously awaiting next Wednesday?

Why do you think it will be that soon already? That seems really early to send them out even though this school doesn't interview much. I figured not until after the holiday weekend.

Why do you think it will be that soon already? That seems really early to send them out even though this school doesn't interview much. I figured not until after the holiday weekend.

This was based on last year's thread when posts began popping up on Sept 3rd--the first Wednesday in September. There were a substantial number of posts detailing acceptances.

September 2nd is the tentative date in my mind.

Of course, you could be right and this year is going to take longer because of the holiday being so late.

Anxiously waiting is almost an understatement... When were you complete? I was complete on August 5th.

I was also complete on August 5th. All of my materials were in at the end of July, but one of my evaluators did not sign the last page. I had to mail the evaluator a new page and, in turn, have them mail it to MSU-COM.

Pretty relieved it all got there, though...

I talked with Terri Cregg a week ago, they are not going to start reviewing files till the second week of September. So, I think the earliest acceptance would be the 3rd week Wednesday.:(

I talked with Terri Cregg a week ago, they are not going to start reviewing files till the second week of September. So, I think the earliest acceptance would be the 3rd week Wednesday.:(

Right, they generally use the first Tuesday in september to get situated and only start reviewing the 2nd week. Although they still have not received one of my evaluators letters so I kind of like that. I want to have everything in before they start reviewing!

Yeah, I'm throwing this secondary in the trash mainly b/c of these eval forms. I have 5 LOR's sitting in my file and can't use any of them, I don't feel like going back to my writers and asking them to fill more paper work out. Good luck to the rest of you.

How come you can't simply just send in your LOR's?

Do they send out complete e-mails when they have received all of your application materials?

Do they send out complete e-mails when they have received all of your application materials?

You have to enter your e-mail address into their status page to receive notification.

https://applstatus.com.msu.edu/

For their secondary where we record all of our hours doing extracurricular/volunteering....where do i put teaching assistant at a university and research? I put if under extracurricular activities first...but then saw the "academic activities" section. But under THAT section, it says to include research poster presentations, any fellowships etc. I didn't have any publications or presentations...i just assisted graduate students with research. Where should that go then?

For their secondary where we record all of our hours doing extracurricular/volunteering....where do i put teaching assistant at a university and research? I put if under extracurricular activities first...but then saw the "academic activities" section. But under THAT section, it says to include research poster presentations, any fellowships etc. I didn't have any publications or presentations...i just assisted graduate students with research. Where should that go then?

I believe my TA job was listed under paid employment...

For their secondary where we record all of our hours doing extracurricular/volunteering....where do i put teaching assistant at a university and research? I put if under extracurricular activities first...but then saw the "academic activities" section. But under THAT section, it says to include research poster presentations, any fellowships etc. I didn't have any publications or presentations...i just assisted graduate students with research. Where should that go then?

Put it under the academic activities at the very bottom. I was in the same situation. Now if you started getting paid to work in the lab, put that time frame in the work part obviously.

Hey, do y'all think that I would qualify for instate tuition? I'm technically a texas resident, but I did my undergrad at University of Michigan and am currently working in Michigan.

Hey, do y'all think that I would qualify for instate tuition? I'm technically a texas resident, but I did my undergrad at University of Michigan and am currently working in Michigan.

if you apply for residency in michigan then yes, but if you havent done that yet then you need to if you plan on receiving in state tuition.

this school is such a ripoff for OOSers!

I think this school would have been a good fit for me, too. in terms of what their adcom looks for, I am like the perfect candidate, no joke hehe.

however, it's going to be a no go for me because of...

1) ridiculous tuition
2) you can't become an MI resident until after 3 years, so you're paying that ridic tuition the entire time
3) their evaluation forms on the secondary are a pain in the ass

good bye, MSU. my advice to you is to standardize your admissions because, as of now, you are losing many great applicants!

I wonder who would be stupid enough to pay $65k/year for tuition ONLY to a DO school. are you ****TING ME??? hahhaha :thumbdown

!!! I'm curious how did you know that you can't become a resident until after 3 years? I thought it was one year?

this school is such a ripoff for OOSers!

I think this school would have been a good fit for me, too. in terms of what their adcom looks for, I am like the perfect candidate, no joke hehe.

however, it's going to be a no go for me because of...

1) ridiculous tuition
2) you can't become an MI resident until after 3 years, so you're paying that ridic tuition the entire time
3) their evaluation forms on the secondary are a pain in the ass

good bye, MSU. my advice to you is to standardize your admissions because, as of now, you are losing many great applicants!

I wonder who would be stupid enough to pay $65k/year for tuition ONLY to a DO school. are you ****TING ME??? hahhaha :thumbdown

I wonder who would be stupid enough to pay $65k/year for tuition ONLY to a DO school. are you ****TING ME??? hahhaha :thumbdown

Well this is going to piss off quite a few people. Ignoring that, you have seen the tuition at schools like AZCOM too right though?

Well this is going to piss off quite a few people. Ignoring that, you have seen the tuition at schools like AZCOM too right though?

Ya that is a pretty ignorant and offensive comment rockbuster, I would have to say everyone has their reasons for choosing whatever school they may want to go to. Just because you have a certain view on what it means to go to MSUCOM and what it means to be a DO doesn't mean others have the same view. Remember, MSUCOM is a great school that is ranked in the top 5% of schools (MD and DO) for primary care. Among other things, that matters, regardless of OOS tuition or not.

hey all..quick question just to make sure i am doin this right...my teaching assistant experience that was NOT paid goes under acadmic activities right?

hey all..quick question just to make sure i am doin this right...my teaching assistant experience that was NOT paid goes under acadmic activities right?

right

So this is kind of a random question, and sorry if it has already been addressed, but do a lot of people apply to both the osteopathic and allopathic schools at MSU? I want to apply to both, as I am a Michigan resident, but I don't want to hurt my chances of getting in to either. I am hoping that they wouldn't even know if I apply to both the MD and DO school...

So this is kind of a random question, and sorry if it has already been addressed, but do a lot of people apply to both the osteopathic and allopathic schools at MSU? I want to apply to both, as I am a Michigan resident, but I don't want to hurt my chances of getting in to either. I am hoping that they wouldn't even know if I apply to both the MD and DO school...

People do that all the time, I wouldn't worry about it.

Well, I am trying to write my personal essay for MSU-COM... I thought about touching upon a bad experience I had shadowing a DO physician- but then I remembered that the physician went to MSU-COM!

So I was wondering if I should still mention the experience in the essay? I'm kind of hesitant that they'll be less than happy that one of their own alumni provided such a bad example. He's kind of well known around MSU, or so he tells me. :confused:

Well, I am trying to write my personal essay for MSU-COM... I thought about touching upon a bad experience I had shadowing a DO physician- but then I remembered that the physician went to MSU-COM!

So I was wondering if I should still mention the experience in the essay? I'm kind of hesitant that they'll be less than happy that one of their own alumni provided such a bad example. He's kind of well known around MSU, or so he tells me. :confused:

Is it necessary to drop the physician's name? If you put down multiple shadowing/volunteer experiences where you engaged with a doctor, then it would be a guess as to who it really is.

Well, I am trying to write my personal essay for MSU-COM... I thought about touching upon a bad experience I had shadowing a DO physician- but then I remembered that the physician went to MSU-COM!

So I was wondering if I should still mention the experience in the essay? I'm kind of hesitant that they'll be less than happy that one of their own alumni provided such a bad example. He's kind of well known around MSU, or so he tells me. :confused:

I don't understand why you would even talk about a BAD experience w/a DO physician... Kinda contrary of what you're trying to prove isn't it?

I don't understand why you would even talk about a BAD experience w/a DO physician... Kinda contrary of what you're trying to prove isn't it?

Yea, that is what I was wondering about... I'm just brainstorming for ideas for the essay (I'm drawing a blank- it's so frustrating!). Thanks for the input. :)

I have a quick que. I am still completeing my secondary. But on my primary, I said that I planned on retaking the MCAT, which I did, but I wont be able to release my scores for another three weeks. Will MSU-COM wait for these scores or go along with my old ones which meet their cutoffs?

I have a quick que. I am still completeing my secondary. But on my primary, I said that I planned on retaking the MCAT, which I did, but I wont be able to release my scores for another three weeks. Will MSU-COM wait for these scores or go along with my old ones which meet their cutoffs?

They will wait for your new ones, your application would be put on hold. I would call to make sure that they are aware of this though, but they should have from AACOMAS.

They will wait for your new ones, your application would be put on hold. I would call to make sure that they are aware of this though, but they should have from AACOMAS.

Ok thanks..also do you think that having everything in by the end of September is too late for this school?

Ok thanks..also do you think that having everything in by the end of September is too late for this school?

I would say that it is worth it because I know people that have turned in the secondary in october and still got in. The thing with MSUCOM is they like to finish their class early by meeting every week on Tuesday to review applicants. It use to be common for MSUCOM to fill the class by December, but now that the class size has expanded to 300 students it takes them longer. Definitely try to get it in ASAP though!

hey guys,
:biglove:I just received an admission offer for the class of 2014. :biglove:

GO GREEN

GO WHITE

hey guys,
:biglove:I just received an admission offer for the class of 2014. :biglove:

GO GREEN

GO WHITE

Wow, congrats! I didn't realize they were reviewing this week... my application was JUST completed yesterday. Hope that won't hurt me too much.

hey guys,
:biglove:I just received an admission offer for the class of 2014. :biglove:

GO GREEN

GO WHITE


Wow! Congrats! What date were you considered complete? And if you don't mind my asking, what are your stats? You can PM me if you'd like. I'm just trying to get a feel for when I may hear back.

They will wait for your new ones, your application would be put on hold. I would call to make sure that they are aware of this though, but they should have from AACOMAS.

I retook the mcat as well and addressed this on my primary, but I didn't dotoo well so I didn't release them. Will my App be put on hold or will they review it as is? It has been a long time since I got my scores so I figured they would know, but maybe I am assuming too much?

hey guys,
:biglove:I just received an admission offer for the class of 2014. :biglove:

GO GREEN

GO WHITE

Congrats! When were u complete?

I retook the mcat as well and addressed this on my primary, but I didn't dotoo well so I didn't release them. Will my App be put on hold or will they review it as is? It has been a long time since I got my scores so I figured they would know, but maybe I am assuming too much?

I would definitely call to make sure because you never know.

I would definitely call to make sure because you never know.

I don't know what to say haha

I don't know what to say haha

Ask if they are holding your application to wait on the MCAT results and if they say yes than request them not to and to just use your old MCAT results.

Ask if they are holding your application to wait on the MCAT results and if they say yes than request them not to and to just use your old MCAT results.

Thanks. I wrote them an email. I hope this doesn't delay me since I was complete on august 5th.

Sweet...I'm glad acceptances are going out now..

hey guys,
:biglove:I just received an admission offer for the class of 2014. :biglove:

GO GREEN

GO WHITE

This is an interesting post below....why the change in heart? So I take it you're a re-applicant or a last year waitlist?? The post below was in the MD thread "Schools I wouldn't apply to again"

Originally Posted by ofoshoukno http://img2.studentdoctor.net/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=6458762#post6458762)
MSUCOM= Seriously who do they think they are? Someone should remind them that they aren't an IVY league Medical school.

Toledo Medical School= a certain PHD professor back stabbed me in the interview asked me all these weird questions
kept making counter points about everything I say
I knew I was screwed
so then decision day for the admissions committee
she told the Dean of the Medical school
that I was a liar
and fraudulent
said that "I put my legs on the table" when I spoke to her
made up all this bullcrap about me
I got rejected, my stats were better than Toledo by a long shot...

The sad part was that after all the thank you letters I wrote, and ***** kissing I did, it was all undone because some jag PHD didn't like my demeanor? I mean if this is a way of letting under qualified applicants accepted, then it sure as heck works.

This is an interesting post below....why the change in heart? So I take it you're a re-applicant or a last year waitlist?? The post below was in the MD thread "Schools I wouldn't apply to again"

Originally Posted by ofoshoukno http://img2.studentdoctor.net/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=6458762#post6458762)
MSUCOM= Seriously who do they think they are? Someone should remind them that they aren't an IVY league Medical school.

Toledo Medical School= a certain PHD professor back stabbed me in the interview asked me all these weird questions
kept making counter points about everything I say
I knew I was screwed
so then decision day for the admissions committee
she told the Dean of the Medical school
that I was a liar
and fraudulent
said that "I put my legs on the table" when I spoke to her
made up all this bullcrap about me
I got rejected, my stats were better than Toledo by a long shot...

The sad part was that after all the thank you letters I wrote, and ***** kissing I did, it was all undone because some jag PHD didn't like my demeanor? I mean if this is a way of letting under qualified applicants accepted, then it sure as heck works.


Haha, way to call him out.

Ask if they are holding your application to wait on the MCAT results and if they say yes than request them not to and to just use your old MCAT results.

I sent them an email, and they acknowledged it. They said it wasn't on hold. I hope they don't count it against me? Also, didn't you say you spoke to someone in the admissions' office and they said they wouldn't be reviewing until the 2nd week of September?

Can it be possible that only one SDN member got in today? (on a Thursday, at that).

Only reason I ask bc I am anxiously waiting haha

This is an interesting post below....why the change in heart? So I take it you're a re-applicant or a last year waitlist?? The post below was in the MD thread "Schools I wouldn't apply to again"

Originally Posted by ofoshoukno http://img2.studentdoctor.net/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=6458762#post6458762)
MSUCOM= Seriously who do they think they are? Someone should remind them that they aren't an IVY league Medical school.

Toledo Medical School= a certain PHD professor back stabbed me in the interview asked me all these weird questions
kept making counter points about everything I say
I knew I was screwed
so then decision day for the admissions committee
she told the Dean of the Medical school
that I was a liar
and fraudulent
said that "I put my legs on the table" when I spoke to her
made up all this bullcrap about me
I got rejected, my stats were better than Toledo by a long shot...

The sad part was that after all the thank you letters I wrote, and ***** kissing I did, it was all undone because some jag PHD didn't like my demeanor? I mean if this is a way of letting under qualified applicants accepted, then it sure as heck works.

Maybe if you posted the entire story behind my post, instead of selectively posting a random B.S. tidbit, you will see that I called out MSU-COM because they required ridiculous(yes I still think they are ridiculous) pre-reqs which most med schools don't require aka Genetics, biochem, etc... (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=6470304#post6470304)

And thanks for conveying my strong interest in D.O. schools because that example above is precisely why I didn't apply M.D. after taking the MCAT(The Toledo program which I applied to was called Medstart, where a prospective candidate can be accepted to Toldeo's Medical School without an MCAT score).

And BTW douchebag, I am not a reapplicant. I got accepted in 10 days after submitting my secondary to MSU, without an interview. Perhaps because I had a 3.9 GPA(3.93 BCPM), 29 MCAT and Mother Theresa like Extra-curricular Activities which would have made me more than competitive for most MD schools let alone DO schools.

So up yours.

Maybe if you posted the entire story behind my post, instead of selectively posting a random B.S. tidbit, you will see that I called out MSU-COM because they required ridiculous(yes I still think they are ridiculous) pre-reqs which most med schools don't require aka Genetics, biochem, etc... (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=6470304#post6470304)

And yes thanks for conveying my strong interest in D.O. schools because that example above is precisely why I didn't apply M.D.

And BTW douchebag, I am not a reapplicant. I got accepted in 10 days after submitting my secondary to MSU, without an interview. Perhaps because I had a 3.9 GPA(3.93 BCPM), 29 MCAT and Mother Theresa like Extra-curricular Activities which would have made me more than competitive for most MD schools let alone DO schools.

So up yours.

They don't normally do interviews... so that isn't anything special. But I am surprised that you received an acceptance during the first week of september because they usually only start reviewing applications the second week. Generally the first meeting is just to get things situated, but again congrats. If you do plan on going there hopefully I will see you there.

They don't normally do interviews... so that isn't anything special. But I am surprised that you received an acceptance during the first week of september because they usually only start reviewing applications the second week. Generally the first meeting is just to get things situated, but again congrats. If you do plan on going there hopefully I will see you there.

Thanks for the kind words,

If I am not mistaken, the first batch of acceptances went out last year on the 3rd of September as well.

Thanks for the kind words,

If I am not mistaken, the first batch of acceptances went out last year on the 3rd of September as well.

Yea, that is what last year's thread shows. A large number of posters said they had an acceptance that first week of September.

Many schools require "ridiculous" pre-reqs like biochem and genetics.

Anyway, admitted.

I keep getting an email titled, "Admission Policies, MSUCOM sites" that basically outlines info on their new pre-clerkship program sites in Macomb and Detroit. Is anyone else getting these?

I keep getting an email titled, "Admission Policies, MSUCOM sites" that basically outlines info on their new pre-clerkship program sites in Macomb and Detroit. Is anyone else getting these?

Yeah, I got one this morning. My heart literally skipped about 5 beats because I thought MAYBE today would be the day...

sadly we must still wait.

Yeah, I got one this morning. My heart literally skipped about 5 beats because I thought MAYBE today would be the day...

sadly we must still wait.

Same, I hate when they send this crap, it always makes my heart skip a beat.

Same, I hate when they send this crap, it always makes my heart skip a beat.

I second that...

Many schools require "ridiculous" pre-reqs like biochem and genetics.

Anyway, admitted.

congrats,

btw- they are ridiculous. especially for a non-science major such as myself, ive had to take an extra 12 credits just to fulfill MSU-COM's pre-reqs. Oh well :shrug:

Maybe if you posted the entire story behind my post, instead of selectively posting a random B.S. tidbit, you will see that I called out MSU-COM because they required ridiculous(yes I still think they are ridiculous) pre-reqs which most med schools don't require aka Genetics, biochem, etc... (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=6470304#post6470304)

And thanks for conveying my strong interest in D.O. schools because that example above is precisely why I didn't apply M.D. after taking the MCAT(The Toledo program which I applied to was called Medstart, where a prospective candidate can be accepted to Toldeo's Medical School without an MCAT score).

And BTW douchebag, I am not a reapplicant. I got accepted in 10 days after submitting my secondary to MSU, without an interview. Perhaps because I had a 3.9 GPA(3.93 BCPM), 29 MCAT and Mother Theresa like Extra-curricular Activities which would have made me more than competitive for most MD schools let alone DO schools.

So up yours.

Wow you're really classy with all the name calling. A little touchy I guess. I'm was asking why you posted MSUCOM as a school you wouldn't apply to again. That's what the heading of the thread was called. I am not here to argue with you, it looks like you would win since you're such a nasty, mean person. Good luck to you!!

Wow you're really classy with all the name calling. A little touchy I guess. I'm was asking why you posted MSUCOM as a school you wouldn't apply to again. That's what the heading of the thread was called. I am not here to argue with you, it looks like you would win since you're such a nasty, mean person. Good luck to you!!

Nothing personal against you really, it was unfortunately you who started off on the wrong foot. I never applied to MSU-COM twice, it was a school I didn't really look into because of their "distinct" LOR forms, and tons of extra classes which they required(same reasons why a lot of people in this thread have complained about).

Good luck to you as well!

I got accepted to MSU-COM today from the 2009-2010 applicant pool!!!! Anyone else receive happy news today?!?!?

MSU-COM Class of 2014!!!

MSU COM CLASS OF 2014!!! I am in!!!!

woo hoo! I'm in (class of 2014 here I come :eek:)!

Does anyone know how the education at the satellite campuses compares to the EL campus? I'm thinking about attending the Detroit campus (but, I wasn't sure if I'd miss out on anything).

woo hoo! I'm in (class of 2014 here I come :eek:)!

Does anyone know how the education at the satellite campuses compares to the EL campus? I'm thinking about attending the Detroit campus (but, I wasn't sure if I'd miss out on anything).

Congrats! I'm pretty sure it's nearly the same bc I have friends at both... the number of people at each differs heavily, but I think that's about it.

When were you guys complete? I am eagerly and impatiently waiting....

Congratulations to all who got accepted :thumbup: :laugh:
I was wondering are you guys are in-state or out of state? Has anyone who is out of state got accepted recently???

Congratulations to all who got accepted :thumbup: :laugh:
I was wondering are you guys are in-state or out of state? Has anyone who is out of state got accepted recently???

I am an in-state student. I was complete on August 24th. I'm completely stunned about getting accepted only 2 weeks later.

Good luck to everyone else! I'm super excited to start here next summer!

I have been a follower of this forum for a while now and thought I would finally join SDN now that people are hearing back from MSUCOM. Good luck everybody and congrats to those of you who have already heard back. I am still anxiously waiting. :confused:

I have been a follower of this forum for a while now and thought I would finally join SDN now that people are hearing back from MSUCOM. Good luck everybody and congrats to those of you who have already heard back. I am still anxiously waiting. :confused:

Join the club...it is a long process, and, for MSU-COM, we get to count it one Wednesday at a time.

Join the club...it is a long process, and, for MSU-COM, we get to count it one Wednesday at a time.

amen to that, weekly meetings on SDN on weds.

amen to that, weekly meetings on SDN on weds.

hahaha...Wednesday support groups sound good...

Congratulations to all who got accepted :thumbup: :laugh:
I was wondering are you guys are in-state or out of state? Has anyone who is out of state got accepted recently???


im out of state got accepted today!!

I am an in-state student. I was complete on August 24th. I'm completely stunned about getting accepted only 2 weeks later.

Good luck to everyone else! I'm super excited to start here next summer!

Wow, that's amazing! If you wouldn't mind sharing, what were your stats? You can PM me if you want.

im out of state got accepted today!!
Where are you from? Is there truth to the idea that you cannot claim in-state residency for three years?

Would anybody be willing to share what their stats are?

Thanks!

Accepted today by email. In state and complete sometime before July 30th. Took awhile to post since I was celebrating!!!!!!:):thumbup:

Accepted today by email. In state and complete sometime before July 30th. Took awhile to post since I was celebrating!!!!!!:):thumbup:


Congrats:)

Where are you from? Is there truth to the idea that you cannot claim in-state residency for three years?


im from virginia ... i dont know about the whole in state thing ... i thought it was one year??? i will have to find out though ...

And BTW douchebag, I am not a reapplicant. I got accepted in 10 days after submitting my secondary to MSU, without an interview.
So up yours.

Nothing personal against you really, it was unfortunately you who started off on the wrong foot. I never applied to MSU-COM twice, it was a school I didn't really look into because of their "distinct" LOR forms, and tons of extra classes which they required(same reasons why a lot of people in this thread have complained about).

Good luck to you as well!

Hahaha!!!

Just accepted to MSUCOM class of 2014! Is anybody else going the HPSP route?

Just accepted to MSUCOM class of 2014! Is anybody else going the HPSP route?

I will be if I get in...

so there are no interviews at this school? do they accept mostly in state students?

so there are no interviews at this school? do they accept mostly in state students?

Right, they rarely do interviews and they accept mostly in state students.

nvmd

I sent in a request on the status check website and it has everything submitted except the "Criminal History Information" Is this a background check and thus I wouldn't be responsible for submitting it, or is it something else?

I have submitted the "Past or Pending Disciplinary Action Statement," but I did not see any other forms about criminal history in the secondary app.

january mcat 25P
PS-10 VR-6 BS-9

july mcat 24O YIKES!!!
PS 8 VR-6 BS-10

University of Michigan
GPA 3.45 science 3.5

MI residency

think i got a good shot?

any comments appreciated, Thanks!

january mcat 25P
PS-10 VR-6 BS-9

july mcat 24O YIKES!!!
PS 8 VR-6 BS-10

University of Michigan
GPA 3.45 science 3.5

MI residency

think i got a good shot?

any comments appreciated, Thanks!

I had a friend that got in to MSUCOM with nearly the same exact statistics as you from two years ago. He was placed onto the wait-list and got off of it. So I think you have a good shot but its really gonna matter how well your EC's and LOR make you look considering we have not shot at impressing them at an interview.

GOOD LUCK! :luck:

january mcat 25P
PS-10 VR-6 BS-9

july mcat 24O YIKES!!!
PS 8 VR-6 BS-10

University of Michigan
GPA 3.45 science 3.5

MI residency

think i got a good shot?

any comments appreciated, Thanks!

The numbers look pretty good but they really stress community service and volunteer work. So if you have an extensive history of that then I would say you are in good shape!

I had a friend that got in to MSUCOM with nearly the same exact statistics as you from two years ago. He was placed onto the wait-list and got off of it. So I think you have a good shot but its really gonna matter how well your EC's and LOR make you look considering we have not shot at impressing them at an interview.

GOOD LUCK! :luck:


MSUCOM doesn't hold interviews? I heard this from someone before but didn't understand why they wouldn't.

i hope i stand a shot at MSUCOM!! I am out of state..from chicago...so i know that will definitely be held against me. Hopefully my numbers/volunteer experiences are good enough!

I got in last week about 9 hours into my 10 hour drive to DMU-com for an interview... i celebrated by sticking my head out of the sunroof doing 85 mph... yeah i know, verrrry stupid, I should of been doing 95 mph, lol... seriously though, that was a dumb move, imagine if i hit a bird or something. Anyway. good luck everyone!

Finally I'm complete at MSU!

SDN makes me feel so far behind in everything cause I'm just beginning to become complete at all my schools. Now I'm just really anxious to hear back. I really hope I can get in! Just one acceptance will make this whole process so much less stressful.

I got in last week about 9 hours into my 10 hour drive to DMU-com for an interview... i celebrated by sticking my head out of the sunroof doing 85 mph... yeah i know, verrrry stupid, I should of been doing 95 mph, lol... seriously though, that was a dumb move, imagine if i hit a bird or something. Anyway. good luck everyone!

Congrats! That story made me laugh out loud.

For those of you who've already been accepted, are any of you going to the visit day on Sept. 25th?

Just received an admissions' offer for the class of 2014! I thought this day would never come!!!!!!

Just accepted into class of 2014! Dream come true !

Are they calling you or emailing?

Ps when were you all complete at MSU?

AND MOST OF ALL CONGRATS!!!

Are they calling you or emailing?

Ps when were you all complete at MSU?

AND MOST OF ALL CONGRATS!!!

Thank you. You receive admission via email. I was complete on August 5th.

So what happens after getting invited for an interview?

I got in last week about 9 hours into my 10 hour drive to DMU-com for an interview... i celebrated by sticking my head out of the sunroof doing 85 mph... yeah i know, verrrry stupid, I should of been doing 95 mph, lol... seriously though, that was a dumb move, imagine if i hit a bird or something. Anyway. good luck everyone!


I got accepted today to MSU COM on my way to the airport to fly down and interview at NOVA!!! I was eating a bagel and sitting at a stop light and decided to check e-mail on my phone - I read the e-mail and screamed out loud and threw my bagel out of my sunroof like it was a graduation cap! Needless to say, i got a very funny look from the cars across the intersection haha :)

Congrats to all the other 2014 COM Students!! WHOO HOO

Just received an admissions' offer for the class of 2014! I thought this day would never come!!!!!!

Congrats on your acceptance!! Do you mind sharing your stats?

I have 2 questions regarding MSU-COM

1. Do they dissect cadavers? I have heard they do not, but I just wanted to check with you guys.

2. For the people that are accepted, how do we have to perform in the rest of our classes? In other words, is there any chance we get denied the acceptance? Obviously I'm not asking if I can fail all classes, just want to know the requirements. :thumbup:

I got accepted today to MSU COM on my way to the airport to fly down and interview at NOVA!!! I was eating a bagel and sitting at a stop light and decided to check e-mail on my phone - I read the e-mail and screamed out loud and threw my bagel out of my sunroof like it was a graduation cap! Needless to say, i got a very funny look from the cars across the intersection haha :)

Congrats to all the other 2014 COM Students!! WHOO HOO

LMAO!!! I can definetly relate....all the truckers on the I 80 gave me the same puzzled look as they saw my head slowly come up from the sunroof... congrats!!!

King Leonidas (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0124930/): [turns back shouting] Spartans! What is your profession?
Me: [scared sh**less] Mmm..med...medicine?

King Leonidas (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0124930/): [turns back shouting] Spartans! What is your profession?
Me: [scared sh**less] Mmm..med...medicine?

Haha That is hilarious. Congrats on the acceptance. I hope to be able to join you all next year. :rolleyes:

Haha That is hilarious. Congrats on the acceptance. I hope to be able to join you all next year. :rolleyes:

Thanks and good luck!

.

Can someone please post the status check link. I can't sign into my secondary and look it up anymore. It says you can only view it if incomplete so I guess that means my evaluation forms got there but I want to make sure.
Thanks!!!

https://applstatus.com.msu.edu/

Congrats on your acceptance!! Do you mind sharing your stats?

Thanks! 3.77 GPA, 3.7 sciGPA, 24O MCAT, ~1000 hours volunteering, and numerous leadership activities. I was waitlisted last year. Get at me if you have any other questions.

I was recently accepted, and I am having a really difficult time deciding on whether I should go to EL or DMC. I currently have an amazing roommate and place near the DMC campus, but I love the EL campus, college atmosphere, and extracurricular opportunities offered in EL...

Any suggestions?

I was recently accepted, and I am having a really difficult time deciding on whether I should go to EL or DMC. I currently have an amazing roommate and place near the DMC campus, but I love the EL campus, college atmosphere, and extracurricular opportunities offered in EL...

Any suggestions?

I personally am choosing EL as my top choice. I like the fact that students from COM and CHM take many of the same classes together during the 1st two years. It'll be great to be on the main MSU campus with access to all of the other resources offered there. I just feel that I'll be able to get the most out of the school in EL - but it's totally my personal choice. I also hope to go to some football/basketball games if I ever get the chance to break away from studying!

I personally am choosing EL as my top choice. I like the fact that students from COM and CHM take many of the same classes together during the 1st two years. It'll be great to be on the main MSU campus with access to all of the other resources offered there. I just feel that I'll be able to get the most out of the school in EL - but it's totally my personal choice. I also hope to go to some football/basketball games if I ever get the chance to break away from studying!

I definitely agree with you on that... That's why my decision is so tough. Weighing the option of living with a Wayne med student who I've known since middle school in a great place just minutes away from DMC... Or the former option, which I like bc of your reasons.

woo hoo! I'm in (class of 2014 here I come :eek:)!

Does anyone know how the education at the satellite campuses compares to the EL campus? I'm thinking about attending the Detroit campus (but, I wasn't sure if I'd miss out on anything).


Hello,

I am a first year at MSUCOM right now and the education at the satellite campuses are exactly the same. We broadcast lectures to them and some days they broadcast to East Lansing. You will have all of the same classes, professors and exams! Congrats guys : )

I have 2 questions regarding MSU-COM

1. Do they dissect cadavers? I have heard they do not, but I just wanted to check with you guys.

2. For the people that are accepted, how do we have to perform in the rest of our classes? In other words, is there any chance we get denied the acceptance? Obviously I'm not asking if I can fail all classes, just want to know the requirements. :thumbup:


Anatomy is a prosection lab, which means that we do not dissect cadavers in ANTR 551. However, after successfully completing anatomy you can take prosection as an elective where you will dissect the new bodies for the lab.

And you still have to send transcripts when you finish before you matriculation and you should still do well. They will not accept any grade lower than a C for pre-requisite courses. For non-required courses I'm not sure of a grade policy, but it will certainly look bad if you do not perform well the semester before school starts!

so there are no interviews at this school? do they accept mostly in state students?

MSUCOM only holds interviews for applicants they are on the fence about. They stopped interviewing all applicants when they realized that they were accepting nearly everyone who interviewed. This is the reason for the lengthy seconday, because they need a way to get to know you without actually meeting you at the interview!

Complete today... Add my name to the Wed. support group...

Hope everyone is ready for another fun packed wednesday. Best of luck to everyone getting in this week. I sure hope I do :luck::luck:

Hope everyone is ready for another fun packed wednesday. Best of luck to everyone getting in this week. I sure hope I do :luck::luck:

Thanks man, these Wednesdays are killers.

it would be helpful if people accepted can provide the date of completion and any other stats they don't mind sharing.

Thanks and best of luck to all.

it would be helpful if people accepted can provide the date of completion and any other stats they don't mind sharing.

Thanks and best of luck to all.

Culmulative GPA: 3.78
Science GPA: 3.62
MCAT: 25Q (8 phys, 8 verbal, 9 bio)
Tons of medically-related and leadership EC's
2 years of research experience

Complete: August 24th
Accepted: September 9th

Good luck to everyone. GO GREEN!!!

..

I just got accepted today in the middle of class. I couldn't process another word the prof. said for the rest of the hour. Good luck to everyone! Stick with it. Good things happen to those who really want it. :laugh::luck::laugh:

Got in today... I was so shocked because I didn't interview...
Congrats to all of u guys..
Looking forward to it...

Do accepted students get to choose which campus u go in?

I saw a lot of people commenting that they weren't applying to MSUCOM becaues of the high OOS tuition.
I'm a first year at the school right now and can tell you that a lot of OOSers recieve scholarships and what not that pretty much bring down tuition to the same rate as the in state folk. Dont know exact numbers and I'm not going to venture to guess. If you are really interested in this school (and you should be) and you feel like the tuition is too high, speak with an admissions rep and ask them how many OOSers get the scholarships.

I saw a lot of people commenting that they weren't applying to MSUCOM becaues of the high OOS tuition.
I'm a first year at the school right now and can tell you that a lot of OOSers recieve scholarships and what not that pretty much bring down tuition to the same rate as the in state folk. Dont know exact numbers and I'm not going to venture to guess. If you are really interested in this school (and you should be) and you feel like the tuition is too high, speak with an admissions rep and ask them how many OOSers get the scholarships.


how much is in-state tuition?

Got in today... I was so shocked because I didn't interview...
Congrats to all of u guys..
Looking forward to it...

Congrats!

For those who have gotten acceptances, when were you complete and when did you hear back?

Thanks!

Congrats!

For those who have gotten acceptances, when were you complete and when did you hear back?

Thanks!


completed 9/15 and heard back 9/23

it would be helpful if people accepted can provide the date of completion and any other stats they don't mind sharing.

Thanks and best of luck to all.

Cumulative GPA = 3.75
Science GPA = 3.68
MCAT = 29 S (P:9 B:10 V: 10)
Volunteer/shadowing/leadership activities

Got my applications in and waited ~3.5 weeks. Good luck to everyone who got accepted!! If you're still waiting...HANG IN THERE!

Anyone that is accepted going to the school visit tomorrow morning?

For those of you that have been accepted, what site have you/plan to pick??

I recieved my letter in the mail on Monday, and don't know how long to delay. I would really like to tour all 3 campuses. Right now, I am really interested in DMC because of the clinical exposure I'd get, and the location of itself. I am tired of being in Lansing since I have been here for 4 years for undergrad.

Let me know what you guys are thinking,

For those of you that have been accepted, what site have you/plan to pick??

I recieved my letter in the mail on Monday, and don't know how long to delay. I would really like to tour all 3 campuses. Right now, I am really interested in DMC because of the clinical exposure I'd get, and the location of itself. I am tired of being in Lansing since I have been here for 4 years for undergrad.

Let me know what you guys are thinking,


I probably will be choosing DMC due to the same reasons you listed. I like the fact that I would be getting tons of clinical exposure in a major urban area. Lansing is nice but i'm ready for a change of scenery since i grew up right around there

I probably will be choosing DMC due to the same reasons you listed. I like the fact that I would be getting tons of clinical exposure in a major urban area. Lansing is nice but i'm ready for a change of scenery since i grew up right around there

I am living in Detroit right now, and I toured the campus today. It's beautiful inside, state-of-the-art, and brand new as you all know. HOWEVER, just bc you go to MSUCOM-Detroit does not mean you will be placed in Detroit for clerkships. It's based on a lottery so there are equal chances of landing in Detroit for anyone at any campus in our 3rd year.

I loved everyone I met at the DMC campus, and I believe I will be choosing it too. As much as I wanted the college life, I'm here to get on my grind, and I do think the smaller classrooms and nicer facilities will eventually be better for my career.

Anyone that is accepted going to the school visit tomorrow morning?

I'll be there!

I probably will be choosing DMC due to the same reasons you listed. I like the fact that I would be getting tons of clinical exposure in a major urban area. Lansing is nice but i'm ready for a change of scenery since i grew up right around there

I don't think you get any clinical exposure at the dmc, Im almost certain that the DMC in midtown detroit is off limits to MSU students unless you are taking an elective or volunteering. All your clinical rotations are done at 20 other sites, none of which include the DMC. Unless something has changed since last year.

Do accepted students get to choose which campus u go in?

I was maybe contemplating Macomb, anyone have any updates in regards to the facilities there ?

Cumulative GPA = 3.75
Science GPA = 3.68
MCAT = 29 S (P:9 B:10 V: 10)
Volunteer/shadowing/leadership activities

Got my applications in and waited ~3.5 weeks. Good luck to everyone who got accepted!! If you're still waiting...HANG IN THERE!

Great stats, did you consider any allopathic schools?

For those of you that have been accepted, what site have you/plan to pick??

I recieved my letter in the mail on Monday, and don't know how long to delay. I would really like to tour all 3 campuses. Right now, I am really interested in DMC because of the clinical exposure I'd get, and the location of itself. I am tired of being in Lansing since I have been here for 4 years for undergrad.

Let me know what you guys are thinking,

I am interested in possibly going to Macomb, I might drive up to take a tour of it.

i was complete on the

i was complete on the 24th, have a 3.6 cum and 3.44 science, 25 (9,8,8) with good extracurriculars and am doing my undergrad at Michigan State (dunno if that helps), do i have a shot to get in soon (next month or so)?

Science GPA is a bit low for MSU-COM, but your MCAT scores are decent for MSU-COM. I think you have a shot.

my application was complete about a few days ago at MSUCOM but i just got my new retake MCAT score and submitted it to AACOMAS. how long does it take for MSUCOM to see my new score or do i have to call them and let them know to look at it? because i know i mentioned on the primary that i was retaking in August

Great stats, did you consider any allopathic schools?




No i didn't consider any allopathic schools. I have always been drawn to osteopathic medicine and knew this is where i wanted to end up! Thanks for the compliment! :)

No i didn't consider any allopathic schools. I have always been drawn to osteopathic medicine and knew this is where i wanted to end up! Thanks for the compliment! :)
I love to see true supporters of osteopathic medicine. I am with you.

I love to see true supporters of osteopathic medicine. I am with you.
Ditto...

my application was complete about 1 1/2 weeks ago at MSUCOM but i just got my new retake MCAT score and submitted it to AACOMAS. how long does it take for MSUCOM to see my new score or do i have to call them and let them know to look at it? because i know i mentioned on the primary that i was retaking in August

Since AACOMAS sucks at releasing scores, I would fax them in right away. Call to confirm to make sure they got them. I knew someone who faxed their score into the admissions office this cycle and was accepted soon after.

I visited here and everyone was really, really nice. I have more questions that maybe a current student can help with.

1. Do students have problems pulling up documents for class with a mac?
2. Will they send a list of immunizations we need and when?
3. How likely is it that you will get your first choice for the site of your rotations?

Thanks!!

Just got my acceptance to class of 2014!!!!!

application was complete 9/22 accepted 9/30

Stats:
overall gpa 3.81
science gpa 3.8

MCAT 26P
V 8, PS 9, B 9

Good amount of Reserach/volunteer work/exctracurricular activities

was accepted today

complete 9/18
accepeted 9/30

3.79 non-science
3.69 science
29Q MCAT

best of luck to everyone applying, be patient and hopeful!

I visited here and everyone was really, really nice. I have more questions that maybe a current student can help with.

1. Do students have problems pulling up documents for class with a mac?
2. Will they send a list of immunizations we need and when?
3. How likely is it that you will get your first choice for the site of your rotations?

Thanks!!

1. You shouldn't have any trouble with a Mac other than you will need to run Windows in order to increase the playback speed of the Mediasite recorded lectures. I did this by getting a program called VMWare Fusions. Buy it at the MSU Computer store, it will be cheaper than getting it at a regular store.

2. Yes.

3. I think it is fairly likely, but there is always a lot of drama during Base Hospital Selection Time and Lottery Day.

Just accepted to MSU COM :)

I'm hoping a few students currently attending MSU could answer a few questions for me.

How does everyone like the Macomb Campus? Do you feel like you are getting the same education as the students at the EL campus? How often do you see the professors?

Can some 3rd and 4th years comment on rotations? Does the school help you much during these years?

Thanks in advance for your help. And for those of you waiting for an acceptance at MSU I hope it comes soon. Hang in there! :)

Who will be choosing the DMC campus? I've already sent my deposit and been placed there.

Congrats to all who were accepted today!

I have also signed up for the DMC site. I am trying to find a place to live, thinking about the Lafayette Pavillion.

where you guys all staying at? anybody looking for a roommate?

I've been assigned to East Lansing for the pre-clerkship years. Has anyone else requested this site also???

I have also signed up for the DMC site. I am trying to find a place to live, thinking about the Lafayette Pavillion.

where you guys all staying at? anybody looking for a roommate?

Nice, I already live at Riverfront Apts off Jefferson. I'll be staying here with the roommate I already have. You should really check this place out; it's amazing.

Anyone else having a hard time deciding what campus to choose? i live ten minutes aways from the Macomb campus but i feel like the East Lansing campus will be more hands on...any thoughts? also when do u think they will fill up by? i wanna know how long i can wait before choosing

What are you guys wearing / what were people wearing to MSU for the visit??

What are you guys wearing / what were people wearing to MSU for the visit??

Most people that were already accepted wore nice pants and shirts. Some decided to wear a suit. It's not anything formal at all. You may even see someone in jeans, but I would go semi business dress.

I've been assigned to East Lansing for the pre-clerkship years. Has anyone else requested this site also???

I am.

Just accepted to MSUCOM class of 2014! Is anybody else going the HPSP route?

Yeah but I'm going to do Navy.

Just got my acceptance for MSUCOM!!! Huzzah!

Complete 9/24
Accepted 10/7

Non-sci GPA 3.53
Sci GPA 3.48
MCAT 27N

w00t w00t w00t

I have also signed up for the DMC site. I am trying to find a place to live, thinking about the Lafayette Pavillion.

where you guys all staying at? anybody looking for a roommate?



I just got accepted today! :P


I am thinking about signing up for the DMC campus, where is the Lafayette Pavillion in relation to campus?

Congrats to you both!!!

Ugh. I hate this waiting! I was complete 9/26 and was hoping to hear today, but it is looking doubtful. Congratulations to you guys!

Btw, I sent in a LOI on monday. It must've been helpful because I got my acceptance today :D

got accepted today, complete on 9/24. 3.6 cum gpa, 3.5 science, 26 (9,8,9) with great extracurriculars +lors.

good luck to all

I just got accepted today! :P


I am thinking about signing up for the DMC campus, where is the Lafayette Pavillion in relation to campus?

I don't know Lafayette Pav yet, but Riverfront is great. It's like a 5 min drive. Great apartments and location.

PS Congrats to everyone accepted so far... DMC campus is nice as hell!

People applying for DMC.. Check out the Facebook group titled "MSU-COM Class of 2014 @ DMC"

do they send you an official complete email or do you just go by the application check email that you can request online?

do they send you an official complete email or do you just go by the application check email that you can request online?

I never got a complete e-mail, I've just been trusting the online status check. I've had all my stuff in since the beginning of august and haven't heard a peep from MSU, hopefully sometime soon! :xf:

I never got a complete e-mail, I've just been trusting the online status check. I've had all my stuff in since the beginning of august and haven't heard a peep from MSU, hopefully sometime soon! :xf:

they don't send a completed e-mail but when you check your status online if all the items have a "Y" next to them then that means you are completed.

Hey guys, congrats to all those getting accepted!

I am a 1st year @ the Macomb campus and we took anatomy all summer @ DMC.. if you have ANY questions about COM in general, or the SE MI sites please feel free to contact me! I would love to answer your questions and help with information about the campuses. The education is the exact same, but there are definitely positives and negative to each campus.

To those thinking that you will get extra clinical exposure @ DMC, you won't. The opportunities are the same as all the other campuses. Just so you know. And as of right now, the only DMC facility that COM has ties with is Sinai-Grace so there are currently no rotations @ Receiving, children's, harper/hutzel, etc. Many students are hoping that changes, but right now there isn't talk about it.

Once again, any questions or need of input, please contact me! Good luck too all you future com'ers!:)

Another wednesday passes and still no word :(

Another wednesday passes and still no word :(

I've grown to hate wednesdays.

Another wednesday passes and still no word :(


I really did not think I would be waiting this long to hear back from them with any kind of news.

Are they sending out rejections now or do they wait until all the seats are full?

Does anyone know the process that the review committee takes for looking at apps on Wednesdays? How many they review? How many they roughly accept each Wednesday? What time do the emails go out? Do rejection letters go out on Wednesdays too? I assumed I should stop checking my in-box every five minutes after noon...

Thanks!
Still Waiting...:xf:

Does anyone know the process that the review committee takes for looking at apps on Wednesdays? How many they review? How many they roughly accept each Wednesday? What time do the emails go out? Do rejection letters go out on Wednesdays too? I assumed I should stop checking my in-box every five minutes after noon...

Thanks!
Still Waiting...:xf:

Hey RedDO, I grew up in Brighton and lived in South Lyon for a while too :). They review the top 20% of the applications (Gpa, Mcat, and Volunteer hours). No clue about the rest of your questions though. Best of luck to ya though.

Thank you!

Thought I would share with you guys my acceptance as an out of state applicant. I am from Binghamton Ny, and originally was planing on going to LECOM erie (had submitted my deposit already) when I got an acceptance email yesterday! So looks like I will forgo $1500 and go to MSUCOM.

Thought I would share with you guys my acceptance as an out of state applicant. I am from Binghamton Ny, and originally was planing on going to LECOM erie (had submitted my deposit already) when I got an acceptance email yesterday! So looks like I will forgo $1500 and go to MSUCOM.

Great! Congrats, what site are you thinking of attending?

Great! Congrats, what site are you thinking of attending?

I'm not sure yet. I would like to visit all of the campuses before making a decision. Anyway, after they send you an acceptance email do they send you a packet or something in the mail with more details about their school, deposit, and deadlines?

I'm not sure yet. I would like to visit all of the campuses before making a decision. Anyway, after they send you an acceptance email do they send you a packet or something in the mail with more details about their school, deposit, and deadlines?

Yes, you have to e-mail them your address and they will send you a packet.

Be very careful if you considering the satelite campuses. You will not have access to the same electives nor the same clinical oppurtunities! I just found out, luckily i paid my deposite without turning in my preference form.

Yes, you have to e-mail them your address and they will send you a packet.

How long after your acceptance do you have until you have to send in the deposit?

.

Just got my acceptance to class of 2014!!!!!

application was complete 9/22 accepted 9/30

Stats:
overall gpa 3.81
science gpa 3.8

MCAT 26P
V 8, PS 9, B 9

Good amount of Reserach/volunteer work/exctracurricular activities

Congrats on your acceptance!!!!
I have a 3.88 undergrad, 4.0 gpa in my Masters for anatomy and a 26MCAT and I was really hoping to hear from MSU. All of my materials have been in probably about three weeks. Would it be a good idea to call? Thanks for the help!

Could the people currently at MSUCOM.. please list the positive and negatives about EL, DMC, and Macomb?

Congrats on your acceptance!!!!
I have a 3.88 undergrad, 4.0 gpa in my Masters for anatomy and a 26MCAT and I was really hoping to hear from MSU. All of my materials have been in probably about three weeks. Would it be a good idea to call? Thanks for the help!

I would definitely call them and ask if you have been reviewed yet. Thats surprising since i hear that they review the top 20% of applicants every week. I think its still early tho so i wouldn't be worried.

Congrats on your acceptance!!!!
I have a 3.88 undergrad, 4.0 gpa in my Masters for anatomy and a 26MCAT and I was really hoping to hear from MSU. All of my materials have been in probably about three weeks. Would it be a good idea to call? Thanks for the help!

If you call let us know what they say? If they give you any information about what has happened thus far with your file. I've been complete for longer than three weeks with a 3.84 undergrad and a 25 MCAT. Pray for us tomorrow that we hear what we want to anyway right :rolleyes:

Thanks for the advice....I will definitely let you know what they say. And prayers are going out for good news for us all!!!:)

Thanks for the advice....I will definitely let you know what they say. And prayers are going out for good news for us all!!!:)

Good luck tomorrow everyone!

I found Facebook group for East Lansing: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=163236672580&ref=ts

Nothing this week. Bummer. :(

Nothing this week. Bummer. :(

How have you not gotten in here yet?

Nothing this week. Bummer. :(

Maybe they're running a bit behind with acceptances? Your stats look great, by the way. I've been complete for about 4 weeks now... :( Although, my stats are far lower than yours so I shouldn't be holding my breath if you haven't heard back yet.

I wonder how many spots are filled already?

Ugh. I waited until the very end to write my essay, at which point I had the flu. But then again, if my GPA isn't too low for MSU my volunteering definitely is. Maybe my incoherent, codeine-soaked personal statement didn't make much of a difference anyway :laugh:

Does anyone know if rejections are being sent out? I'd really just like to move on from the embarrassment at this point

yes please. i would really like to know and just get the rejection over with! the last time i called to ask about my status over a month ago (just to check if they got everything mind you) they were not to nice to me, so i'm super scared to call again and check!

yes please. i would really like to know and just get the rejection over with! the last time i called to ask about my status over a month ago (just to check if they got everything mind you) they were not to nice to me, so i'm super scared to call again and check!

Yeah they are absolutely no help whenever I call them to check to see if my file has even been reviewed. Welp sadly enough I guess all we can do is wait, unless someone is able to get more out of an admissions councilor.

Does anyone know how they factor in the competitiveness of where people do their undergrad? I see people getting acceptance letters saying they have good GPAs of 3.7, 3.8 etc. but then average MCAT scores like 25.

I have a 3.2 GPA from Michigan and a 29 MCAT with lots of research and volunteer work but still haven't heard back. The reason this kind of bothers me is because I took my physics classes at GVSU and the amount of work I had to put in to get an A there would have barely gotten me a C in one of my science classes at Michigan.

I have been complete since August 5th and have not heard anything yet.

My science GPA is a little low, but I really think my low volunteer hours are holding me back.

I have not received a rejection, nor have I heard of anyone getting one so far.

Ugh. I waited until the very end to write my essay, at which point I had the flu. But then again, if my GPA isn't too low for MSU my volunteering definitely is. Maybe my incoherent, codeine-soaked personal statement didn't make much of a difference anyway :laugh:

Does anyone know if rejections are being sent out? I'd really just like to move on from the embarrassment at this point

I reapplied this year. So based on last year, it took them until April to tell me I was waitlisted, and I wasnt officially denied until June. So be prepared to wait.

Volunteer hours are huge with MSUCOM. I was waitlisted last year, so I came in and talked with one of the counselors. She told me that volunteering hours were weighted something like 40% of the application. When I filled out the activities form, I didn't realize that I could add an activity for several categories and missed out on several valuable volunteering hours. I also didn't think about clubs and organizations when I was spending time to help other people. For instance, with MSU Breakdance Club, I spent a good amount of time teaching people and performing for shows and benefits. That all counts.

This time around, I didn't make any drastic change to my application. I just applied MUCH earlier and added all those missing volunteer hours. Turned my secondary in and got an acceptance two weeks later. Just something to consider for those still waiting... Stats: 27N, 3.51 sci/3.48 non-sci

Does anyone know how they factor in the competitiveness of where people do their undergrad? I see people getting acceptance letters saying they have good GPAs of 3.7, 3.8 etc. but then average MCAT scores like 25.

I have a 3.2 GPA from Michigan and a 29 MCAT with lots of research and volunteer work but still haven't heard back. The reason this kind of bothers me is because I took my physics classes at GVSU and the amount of work I had to put in to get an A there would have barely gotten me a C in one of my science classes at Michigan.

I have heard that the mcat is not weighted very heavily by MSUCOM, so even if you have a great mcat is doesn't help you that much. They are more interested in your gpa, VOLUNTEER work, and healthcare experience. I have heard some other students from private schools in Michigan say their gpa is not accurate since their institution had a more difficult curriculum. I have taken classes at a couple different colleges and I think I would do the same no matter where I went. I never let my grades slip. I did whatever I needed to get a good grade like meeting with professors or getting a tutor.

Does anyone know how they factor in the competitiveness of where people do their undergrad? I see people getting acceptance letters saying they have good GPAs of 3.7, 3.8 etc. but then average MCAT scores like 25.

I have a 3.2 GPA from Michigan and a 29 MCAT with lots of research and volunteer work but still haven't heard back. The reason this kind of bothers me is because I took my physics classes at GVSU and the amount of work I had to put in to get an A there would have barely gotten me a C in one of my science classes at Michigan.

I don't mean to be discouraging to all of you who are still waiting to here back, but I DON'T think it's taking the Admissions Office long to make decisions about students they're sure about. I wasn't complete until 10/6 and I was offered admission on 10/21 (this week). My stats are:
3.35 GPA
3.1ish science GPA
30R MCAT
thousands of combined health care employment/volunteer hours (much more MD experience than DO experience too)
zero research experience
*My personal statement/essays were pretty kickass in my opinion, so that probably helped.

And regarding where you went to school - I go to Grand Valley, so I don't think it's going to hurt you for taking physics here. I know it's no U of M, but GVSU is still a good school.
Hope you all hear back soon!

I don't mean to be discouraging to all of you who are still waiting to here back, but I DON'T think it's taking the Admissions Office long to make decisions about students they're sure about. I wasn't complete until 10/6 and I was offered admission on 10/21 (this week). My stats are:
3.35 GPA
3.1ish science GPA
30R MCAT
thousands of combined health care employment/volunteer hours (much more MD experience than DO experience too)
zero research experience
*My personal statement/essays were pretty kickass in my opinion, so that probably helped.

And regarding where you went to school - I go to Grand Valley, so I don't think it's going to hurt you for taking physics here. I know it's no U of M, but GVSU is still a good school.
Hope you all hear back soon!


Well what I'd like to know is to what extent do admissions give somebody 'brownie' points for going to a competitive school?

Based off my experiences taking classes at multiple schools and from what other people have told me, a B/B+ student at Michigan is more on the caliber of an A-/A student at less competitive colleges. Do they even give any consideration to this sort of thing? It seems more logical to me that schools should place more weight on MCAT scores since that's the only way to objectively compare the academic performance of students.

Well what I'd like to know is to what extent do admissions give somebody 'brownie' points for going to a competitive school?

Based off my experiences taking classes at multiple schools and from what other people have told me, a B/B+ student at Michigan is more on the caliber of an A-/A student at less competitive colleges. Do they even give any consideration to this sort of thing? It seems more logical to me that schools should place more weight on MCAT scores since that's the only way to objectively compare the academic performance of students.

Dude face it. Your probably not going to get any "brownie" points. The admissions committees don't standardize thousands of GPA's. Your best hope is to apply to schools that put more weight on the MCAT. Best of luck to ya. Another reason not to go to Michigan though :p

I don't know if this will help the conversation about stats, but i feel i should share mine considering I'm out of state:

Undergrad at Cornell University
Overall GPA 3.41
Science GPA 3.65
MCAT 27N

I graduated in 2008. Currently work in clinical research and have about 150 volunteer hours. I finished my application in early August and got my acceptance two weeks ago. Furthermore, I did three years at a community college where i completed all of my pre med requirements. I transferred credits into Cornell as a Biological science major. It seems, considering im OOS, that a reputable school does help your cause. If i applied from a less reputable school in new york i doubt i would have gotten in. But who knows. Anyway, i thought this would help. if anyone wants to know anything else about my stats or whatever feel free to ask.

Also, for those who are going to E. Lansing, which is where I think I want to go, have you considered your living situations yet?

I don't know if this will help the conversation about stats, but i feel i should share mine considering I'm out of state:

Undergrad at Cornell University
Overall GPA 3.41
Science GPA 3.65
MCAT 27N

I graduated in 2008. Currently work in clinical research and have about 150 volunteer hours. I finished my application in early August and got my acceptance two weeks ago. Furthermore, I did three years at a community college where i completed all of my pre med requirements. I transferred credits into Cornell as a Biological science major. It seems, considering im OOS, that a reputable school does help your cause. If i applied from a less reputable school in new york i doubt i would have gotten in. But who knows. Anyway, i thought this would help. if anyone wants to know anything else about my stats or whatever feel free to ask.

Also, for those who are going to E. Lansing, which is where I think I want to go, have you considered your living situations yet?

I have been looking into apartments. Does anyone know how it works out for med students at Berrytree? They have weird lease dates and it sounds like subleasing would be involved. I would rather not do that. After our second year, would we be going to our clerkship sites in May or June?

Just wondering, does anyone know how many applicants MSU-COM had last year? The AACOMAS college information book doesn't specify, nor could I find it on the MSU-COM website. Thanks!

I have been looking into apartments. Does anyone know how it works out for med students at Berrytree? They have weird lease dates and it sounds like subleasing would be involved. I would rather not do that. After our second year, would we be going to our clerkship sites in May or June?

I'm pretty sure many CHM/COM students live in Berrytree.

I have been looking into apartments. Does anyone know how it works out for med students at Berrytree? They have weird lease dates and it sounds like subleasing would be involved. I would rather not do that. After our second year, would we be going to our clerkship sites in May or June?

I'm pretty sure many CHM/COM students live in Berrytree.

I have been looking into apartments. Does anyone know how it works out for med students at Berrytree? They have weird lease dates and it sounds like subleasing would be involved. I would rather not do that. After our second year, would we be going to our clerkship sites in May or June?

I'm pretty sure many CHM/COM students live in Berrytree.

Hello,

I was wondering if any of you were placed on hold originally for your pending MCAT scores, and when you did receive your new MCAT scores, did you have to contact MSUCOM? I've sent my score to AACOMAS two and a half weeks ago, and I haven't heard from admissions. :confused: I am very tempted to maybe e-mail admissions to let them know that my new MCAT has been released?

Also, do you guys think that my application is considered "late" or has lowered chances because it's October/ almost November already? I was originally complete in August but was put in hold for my new MCAT scores.

Stats: 3.51 science, 3.8 non-science, 28O MCAT, moderate volunteer/research.

I haven't heard from any schools, so I've been in agony the past few weeks! heh Thanks for the help! :)

Well what I'd like to know is to what extent do admissions give somebody 'brownie' points for going to a competitive school?

Based off my experiences taking classes at multiple schools and from what other people have told me, a B/B+ student at Michigan is more on the caliber of an A-/A student at less competitive colleges. Do they even give any consideration to this sort of thing? It seems more logical to me that schools should place more weight on MCAT scores since that's the only way to objectively compare the academic performance of students.

Fujian, I know what you mean. I too am a UofM grad, graduated 2005. I attended grad school and received a 3.9 with the same amount of work I put in at UofM. Different schools DEFINITELY have different academic environments. Unfortunately most college grads think that their program or course of study was "hard" but because they worked hard, they got good grades. People KNOW you worked hard, you graduated from an awesome university!

While there may not be any "brownie" points in life, the skills that you learned at UofM will make you successful in life. MSU will see this. They know the academic rigor at UofM. They will take it into consideration when reviewing your application. What will determine your acceptance is what you did with your acquired skills. UofM offers TONS of opportunities to get involved. What clubs were you in? Pre Med club? Did you participate in study groups? Study abroad? Did you volunteer at the hospital? Work at the hospital? Involved in Dance Marathon? Member of a sorority/fraternity - don't forget about your philanthropy!! ALL of this should be on your application.

As an acceptee to MSUCOM, my best advice is to get your material in EARLY. I applied twice. The first time I did not submit my secondary until September; I did not get in. The second time I submitted my secondary in July; I was accepted in September. Not a whole lot changed on my app., just the timing of when it was submitted. Stop putting all the emphasis on MCAT scores, gpa's, what school you went to, etc. Be organized, be driven (call!! no matter how scared you are), be EARLY! Don't accept (or anticipate) failure.

INCORRECT-- I am a student @ a satellite campus and we have the same access to EVERYTHING!! Both electives AND clinical opportunities. Do not say things like that unless you are a current student and know that it is actually true.

I highly encourage those accepted to check out the satellite campuses and TALK TO CURRENT STUDENTS at all 3!! There are positives and negatives that are unique to each campus!


Do you happen to know some of the positives/negatives for each campus?

Fujian, I know what you mean. I too am a UofM grad, graduated 2005. I attended grad school and received a 3.9 with the same amount of work I put in at UofM. Different schools DEFINITELY have different academic environments. Unfortunately most college grads think that their program or course of study was "hard" but because they worked hard, they got good grades. People KNOW you worked hard, you graduated from an awesome university!

While there may not be any "brownie" points in life, the skills that you learned at UofM will make you successful in life. MSU will see this. They know the academic rigor at UofM. They will take it into consideration when reviewing your application. What will determine your acceptance is what you did with your acquired skills. UofM offers TONS of opportunities to get involved. What clubs were you in? Pre Med club? Did you participate in study groups? Study abroad? Did you volunteer at the hospital? Work at the hospital? Involved in Dance Marathon? Member of a sorority/fraternity - don't forget about your philanthropy!! ALL of this should be on your application.

As an acceptee to MSUCOM, my best advice is to get your material in EARLY. I applied twice. The first time I did not submit my secondary until September; I did not get in. The second time I submitted my secondary in July; I was accepted in September. Not a whole lot changed on my app., just the timing of when it was submitted. Stop putting all the emphasis on MCAT scores, gpa's, what school you went to, etc. Be organized, be driven (call!! no matter how scared you are), be EARLY! Don't accept (or anticipate) failure.

KimBo,

Seeing your post is very relieving. In fact, almost all those extracurriculars you mentioned I have participated in. I have done Dance Marathon, alternative spring break, volunteered a lot with the Red Cross, been an Orgo study group leader, I'm in a fraternity, did research abroad for two months/lived with a host family, and I have been a research assistant in one of the labs at the med school here for a while now...Those are a lot of the big ones.

On the other hand, it's obvious that everybody applying to med school (especially MSUCOM) has lots of experience to put on their application. And of course it's not fair to say somebody with a 4.0 at any other institution could not have done the same at UofM. But being involved in all these activities makes it that much harder to get a high GPA here. Also, I am majoring in economics which is a really tough program...especially when you combine it with all the science classes.

Like you said, although Michigan requires one to work very very hard, I have benefited from more personal growth that this incredibly diverse campus offers than I would have ever imagined. Still...it's difficult not to wonder at times if I'd be better off had I forgone the 'Michigan difference.'

...But from your experience do you think all of these factors along with my extra curricular experiences will show for something?

Hello,

I was wondering if any of you were placed on hold originally for your pending MCAT scores, and when you did receive your new MCAT scores, did you have to contact MSUCOM? I've sent my score to AACOMAS two and a half weeks ago, and I haven't heard from admissions. :confused: I am very tempted to maybe e-mail admissions to let them know that my new MCAT has been released?

Also, do you guys think that my application is considered "late" or has lowered chances because it's October/ almost November already? I was originally complete in August but was put in hold for my new MCAT scores.

Stats: 3.51 science, 3.8 non-science, 28O MCAT, moderate volunteer/research.

I haven't heard from any schools, so I've been in agony the past few weeks! heh Thanks for the help! :)

AACOMAS takes an eternity to release anything. Call the admissions office to make sure they recieved your latest score. If they havent just fax them a copy of it and they update it right away. I got my new MCAT score and faxed it that day to the admissions office then got accepted two days later. Don't wait for AACOMAS

Finally got word from MSU today after being complete since early August--placed on hold for my Fall grades.

Not a huge surprise here, this is the third school to do so and it means I have a shot still. At least I feel a little more in control of the outcome, which is better than waiting every Wednesday.

Good luck to everyone today!

Just got the accepted email! I had no clue that they didn't do interviews, so I thought it was a mistake at first :laugh:

AACOMAS takes an eternity to release anything. Call the admissions office to make sure they recieved your latest score. If they havent just fax them a copy of it and they update it right away. I got my new MCAT score and faxed it that day to the admissions office then got accepted two days later. Don't wait for AACOMAS

Really great advice! I ended up emailing admissions yesterday and they told me the exact same thing, so I sent in my fax... :) and yeaup:


ACCEPTED TODAY!!!! :laugh: Class of 2014!!! I am so excited and happy!!!

What is the dress code when you come to visit the campus after you have been accepted? Have people been wearing a suit or have they just been wearing dress pants and nice tops?? Any feedback would be nice!
Thanks

Just wondering, does anyone know how many applicants MSU-COM had last year? The AACOMAS college information book doesn't specify, nor could I find it on the MSU-COM website. Thanks!


I am in the class of 2013 and we had over 3000 applications for 300 spots.