anyone have a match list? i googled it but the links didn't work

anyone have a match list? i googled it but the links didn't work

Yeah, here it is. It's actually from last year's discussion thread. Posted by Chocolate Bear. http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=525692&page=7

Yes, I want to get in here so badly that I've even read last year's thread just to pass the time.

AUGH.

Hey guys. I know that the next time adcom meets is Feb 19th, but I have a deposit due for NYCOM the very same day. Do any of you think there's any point in calling UMDNJ SOM admissions and asking if they can tell me the decision earlier? I wouldn't have bothered if the dates just weren't so close. Plus, the deposit for NYCOM is a hefty 1500. :smack:

Hey guys. I know that the next time adcom meets is Feb 19th, but I have a deposit due for NYCOM the very same day. Do any of you think there's any point in calling UMDNJ SOM admissions and asking if they can tell me the decision earlier? I wouldn't have bothered if the dates just weren't so close. Plus, the deposit for NYCOM is a hefty 1500. :smack:

In order to be accepted, your application needs to be reviewed by the entire admissions committee. Because they do not meet until the 19th, it is highly unlikely that the admissions office will tell you if you are accepted or not.

Losing deposits is part of the risk in applying to medical school. This is another reason it is so expensive to apply. You can check with NYCOM's policy on getting back the deposit or a portion of the deposit. When I received my acceptance to UMDNJ, I had already sent my deposit to UNECOM ($1000). When I withdrew my acceptance, they refunded me the entire amount even though I was under the impression that it was non refundable.

You can certainly try, but I am just giving you the heads up on what they more than likely will say. However, if they do tell you then I am glad to be proven wrong in this matter.

Thanks for the advice, EMT2ER-Doc. :) I figured as much.

hey guys,
is there a UMDNJ, DO school, facebook group????

hey guys,
is there a UMDNJ, DO school, facebook group????
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=285565441359

Friday, Feb. 19th, 2010. Ye Gods.

Good luck to everybody who's got an admissions decision then! :luck:

Hopefully I'll get the chance to meet some of you fine people soon.

Yeah, here it is. It's actually from last year's discussion thread. Posted by Chocolate Bear. http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=525692&page=7

Yes, I want to get in here so badly that I've even read last year's thread just to pass the time.

AUGH.
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fo' realz. im on the wait list since november! ugh

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fo' realz. im on the wait list since november! ugh

hi nilam! I hope you get in!!!!

WAaaaaAAH! It's today!

Work is going to be interesting...

Good luck to everybody!

Oh my gosh I am so nervous! Does anyone know around what time the ADCOM meets and the calls go out? It's going to be a loooong day...

Best of luck to everyone! :xf:

Oh my gosh I am so nervous! Does anyone know around what time the ADCOM meets and the calls go out? It's going to be a loooong day...

Best of luck to everyone! :xf:

Seems like the usual time is 3-5pm, and if you don't get a call, there's a slim chance you might get one on Monday.

Yeep!

Seems like the usual time is 3-5pm, and if you don't get a call, there's a slim chance you might get one on Monday.

Yeep!

Thanks! Wow I'm freaking out much more than I initially thought I would. I hope my boss doesn't want overly focused work today... let the obsessive compulsive checking of SDN and my cell phone begin! lol

Seems like the usual time is 3-5pm, and if you don't get a call, there's a slim chance you might get one on Monday.

Yeep!

I got my call around 4:30pm and people got calls well after 5pm so try to relax until at least 3pm (I don't think anyone has really gotten calls before that)....best of luck!

I got my call at 3:00pm. Best of luck to everyone!

I really didn't think Id be this nervous.. My interview went well and I really fell in love with the school. I havent slept all night because Im so nervous about that call after 3pm and I have a final 4-6! (Im on Quarters here at RIT). FINGERS CROSSED!!!!

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Haven't received a call yet.. AHH! I'm so nervous.

when did u interview? nd r u OOS? or IS?

when did u interview? nd r u OOS? or IS?

Interviewed the 3rd. I'm IS. How about you?

i haven't heard anything yet either!! AHHHH i interviewed the 28th...I'm IS too.

i haven't heard anything yet either!! AHHHH i interviewed the 28th...I'm IS too.

I interviewed on the 26th!! Its been a long wait for me. Plz update if you guys get a call!

OOS. Interviewed 1/28. 4:47 pm, no call.

Cheshyre- you interviewed the same day as me. you may have been in my interview group...which person were you?

IS. Interviewed 1/21- so it has been an excruciating wait, but I received a call at 2:30pm. I've been accepted!!! :love: Good luck to everyone else! :luck: I hope to see more people posting their acceptances.

Interviewed 2/3

5:32pm, no call yet

I am also In-state

I don't think anyone is hearing anything today. Maybe they are behind cuz of all the snow?? We won't hear anything until Monday I guess since the office is now closed

Thanks for the reply man, that's a bit re-assuring

5:53 Eastern. No Call still interview 2/17. I hope they are behind and just call monday. Im near tears :(

5:53 Eastern. No Call still interview 2/17. I hope they are behind and just call monday. Im near tears :(

So if i understand correct only one person receved a call todai? I hope they are behind because of the snow...I will be looking forward to monday now

So if i understand correct only one person receved a call todai? I hope they are behind because of the snow...I will be looking forward to monday now

No kidding, because that was just about the worst cap to a week ever.

I'd been having an amazingly good week too.

I got the call today at 2:30. I was interviewed 1/19 and I'm IS.

I called on Thursday found out that they were reviewing about 86 people.

I got the call at 2:15pm today from the person who interviewed me. Interviewed on 2/3, and I'm in state. Congrats and good luck to everyone!

Have any of you heard anything today?

Have any of you heard anything today?

No, ma'am.

Still no Monday calls? I guess it's not looking good for me. :( On the positive side, at least I have other acceptances... just wish this one had worked out too.

But congrats to everyone accepted and best of luck to everyone waiting! :luck:

Hey everybody --

I just called the admissions office because I couldn't wait anymore. Unfortunately, I'm going to be doing more of that, now from the alternate list. They said that the people reviewed on Friday haven't been ranked yet into the waitlist but they should be by the end of this week if we want to find out. Formal letters detailing waitlist status should be coming this week.

Definitely not the result I was hoping for, but at least I'm still in the game (I hope?). Roll with the punches and such.

Good luck to all.

Cheshyre, my avatar is actually a "bumper sticker" from my girlfriend's facebook. (I'm no ma'am). I hope you all make it in a good spot on the list. Good luck with the rest of your applications. :)

Cheshyre, my avatar is actually a "bumper sticker" from my girlfriend's facebook. (I'm no ma'am). I hope you all make it in a good spot on the list. Good luck with the rest of your applications. :)


... Oops.

Sigh. I want off the waitlist now.

Also placed on the alternate list :/ In state. Interviewd 2/18

wow i feel like i interviewed here forever ago! 9/30! they told me in about sixteen days you'll here back, and i did 10/15 lol got the call around 3:00pm

Does anyone know the board scores/pass rates for UMDNJ-SOM?

does anyone know if they are still interviewing

does anyone know if they are still interviewing

They should be interviewing up until mid-April.

I was complete back in November, but havent heard anything from them (OOS-NY). My friend called them last week and they said that they were done with the application process and no longer scheduling interviews. I kind of gave up home with UMDNJ about a month ago

I was complete back in November, but havent heard anything from them (OOS-NY). My friend called them last week and they said that they were done with the application process and no longer scheduling interviews. I kind of gave up home with UMDNJ about a month ago

I talked to the admissions office on Friday (2/26). They told me that interviews would probably go on until mid-April. On the other hand, they also mentioned that the class was "full."

In any case, I would call them and check up on your application if I were you. It wouldn't cost you anything besides a moment of your time.

if you have been accepted and are pretty confident you will attend, please go join the facebook group!


http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/group.php?gid=285565441359&ref=ts

For those of you on the waitlist, there is hope.
I was on the waitlist starting dec of last year and got in during july 2009. About a month before school started. a lot of people got off the waitlist around that time. During March I believe they have an accepted students day and they usually take a picture, I can't regonize close to 40% of the students. They are not part class of 2013. So it shows that the waitlist does indeed move. make sure you guys show that you really want to go to UMDNJ. It is an amazing school, no doubt. If you guys have any questions just PM me.

Does anyone know the board scores/pass rates for UMDNJ-SOM?

Can't remember where I saw it, but one place quoted 98%-99%. I just have a bunch of school stats written down on a piece of paper with no context so I don't know if it's first-time takers or even which COMLEX it is. I also have a note next to it that says "USMLE is popular."

brownsoul, kinda new at the PM thing. I replied to your message...let me know if you got it :)

I interviewed last month and I found out I was waitlisted. I'm heart broken over this. Does anyone how many people usually make it off of the waitlist?

Alot of people were taken off the waitlist like a month before school started. a buddy of mine's brother and another buddy got off waitlist. one chose to go and the other decided to go somewhere else b/c he had already made alot of arrangements.

I interviewed last month and I found out I was waitlisted. I'm heart broken over this. Does anyone how many people usually make it off of the waitlist?

i'm pretty depressed right now. :-( do you know if half or more people on the waitlist get in?

Jersey --

I'm waitlisted as well.

I've been searching around on the forums and talking to people for a while now. I don't want to get your hopes up because things do change each year and may change dramatically (Western COMP had an issue last year with over-accepting candidates, resulting in little waitlist movement), but here's what I recall seeing/hearing. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.


People get accepted as late as August. Apparently one person was accepted during the White Coat Ceremony or close to it last year?
As of last year, people from the "top 50%" were accepted off the waitlist. Does this mean that half of the waitlist got in? Possibly not, but I don't know. Perhaps some people at the 50th percentile sent in updates that got their application boosted in ranking. NOTE: That's complete speculation by me.
There was some blurb in a really old UMDNJ thread about how not all of the people on the top ten of the waitlist actually got accepted in 2004. Again, I don't know whether that's because people under them were taken instead for various reasons or because the waitlist didn't move very much.

In any case, the admissions office said that the waitlist likely won't begin to move until after mid-April. Just by reading through threads, it seems like people do get off the waitlist all through the cycle, but a lot of movement happens in June. I can't be certain though, since not all of the waitlisted candidates post on SDN (obviously).

Sit tight and stay positive. The application process is pretty harsh, but this is what we all signed up for. I've personally been trying to push forward, gathering info, preparing some contingency plans. I can't just do nothing - that'll lead me into depression for sure.

Best of luck to you!

best luck to you cheshyre. I am so impatient now. first I had to wait to get my mcat score, then waiting to get verified from aacomas, then waiting to get an interview, now waiting to get off of the waitlist.

ughhhhhh waiting is killing me

Jersey - I think life is going to be like this forever, haha. We'll always be waiting on something.

The worst part is that I need to start applying to post-bacc programs, just in case everything goes wrong this cycle. A lot of them have application due dates in May, and if the waitlist here really starts to move in June, well.. yeah.

Just had my interview with a student and a DO. Slightly stressful because they kept shooting question after question and took notes while I talked. Good, informal tour. Very impressed with the school. Can't wait until 3/19!

I hope the interview wasn't too stressful. They are usually just a conversation.

I'm so upset. I had an interview early January, and was placed on the waitlist that week. At that point I was in the top 10% of the waitlist, but by the next update I was in the top 33%. This is so frustrating because I love the school and am in state. Anyone else share these frustrations?!

I'm frustrated as well. Do you know if anyone has been taken off the waitlist yet or will it not move until April or May??


I'm so upset. I had an interview early January, and was placed on the waitlist that week. At that point I was in the top 10% of the waitlist, but by the next update I was in the top 33%. This is so frustrating because I love the school and am in state. Anyone else share these frustrations?!

Reading last year thread, alot of people got in off the waitlist. Looks like about 100 people were offered spots. I hope this holds true this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

100?? That's almost the whole class. I wonder where they all went instead. Did you just mean "a lot" or was 100 really an estimate from somewhere? Lol.

The current financial situation might make some people drop their spots. Governor Christie just cut UMNDJ's funding by $20M for the remainder of the fiscal year due to a $2B state deficit. They said tuition will be going up but are not sure by how much. The state deficit for next year is predicted to be $11B. :eek:

(I'm pretty sure my numbers are right, but I wasn't taking notes during the presentation.)

Sorry I meant to say 100 people on the waitlist and about 50 got accepted.

Sorry I meant to say 100 people on the waitlist and about 50 got accepted.

the class is full and there are already 162 people on the waitlist this year. :scared: lets hope the list starts to move soon.

the class is full and there are already 162 people on the waitlist this year. :scared: lets hope the list starts to move soon.

how did you find out about this. when i called they told me they cant disclose this kind of information. do you know when the waitlist will start moving?

I think that a big part of the reason for so many people getting in off of the waitlist last year is because the class size grew by roughly 20 people from the 2012 to 2013 class, and the *completely unverified* rumor I heard is that the class size was increased a little more than they expected to because of some financial reasons. All in all, that probably amounts to 10 extra people being admitted, but if that determination was made in say, July, could be why so many people off of the waitlist were accepted - a lot of people have made decisions by that point, and they may have made 40 calls to people on the waitlist to fill those 10 spots. I have no idea what their plans are for next year, but I'm not sure if what happened last year will be of any value in predicting what will happen this year. Either way, keep your head up, and remember that if you really want to do this, a couple bumps in the road are worth it, and very often the experiences that you have when things don't go as you plan are some of the most enriching experiences that you'll have. Hopefully good news will come your way though.

I think that a big part of the reason for so many people getting in off of the waitlist last year is because the class size grew by roughly 20 people from the 2012 to 2013 class, and the *completely unverified* rumor I heard is that the class size was increased a little more than they expected to because of some financial reasons. All in all, that probably amounts to 10 extra people being admitted, but if that determination was made in say, July, could be why so many people off of the waitlist were accepted - a lot of people have made decisions by that point, and they may have made 40 calls to people on the waitlist to fill those 10 spots. I have no idea what their plans are for next year, but I'm not sure if what happened last year will be of any value in predicting what will happen this year. Either way, keep your head up, and remember that if you really want to do this, a couple bumps in the road are worth it, and very often the experiences that you have when things don't go as you plan are some of the most enriching experiences that you'll have. Hopefully good news will come your way though.

Thanks TheBlueBlazer for the very kind words! :)

waitlist should start moving next month.

what i do recommend, apply for the GSBS program as well. They take med school courses. so before your first year of medical school you would have taken a few courses and have advanced credit(would not have to take the course again). Also I feel most GSBS students finish in one year and get into medical school.

Do any current students know what the projected increase in tuition is for the upcoming year?

Do any current students know what the projected increase in tuition is for the upcoming year?

i'm not a current student but if you log into the umdnj portal under the financial aid tab it has the CoA for 2010-2011 listed as $80k :eek:

obviously this is a crazy overestimate (it has something like $25k allowance for living expenses i think) but it says that tuition/fees = $35k, which is probably not as over-estimated as the other aspects of the CoA

i'm not a current student but if you log into the umdnj portal under the financial aid tab it has the CoA for 2010-2011 listed as $80k :eek:

obviously this is a crazy overestimate (it has something like $25k allowance for living expenses i think) but it says that tuition/fees = $35k, which is probably not as over-estimated as the other aspects of the CoA

Where did you find that? I don't see a CoA estimate for 2010-2011.

Where did you find that? I don't see a CoA estimate for 2010-2011.

when you click on the financial aid tab on the right-hand side of the screen is a box labeled "additional resources" with the options to click on in that box being "your financial aid award," "your cost of attendance," and "your account summary by term period"

i could click on CoA and pick july 10-june 11 as an option which gave me the following breakdown:

Budget Detail
Budget Component Amount
Books & Supplies $10,000.00
Personal $5,000.00
Room & Board $25,000.00
Tuition & Fees $35,000.00
Transportation $5,000.00
Total: $80,000.00

Budget Detail
Budget Component Amount
Books & Supplies $10,000.00
Personal $5,000.00
Room & Board $25,000.00
Tuition & Fees $35,000.00
Transportation $5,000.00
Total: $80,000.00

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So, is 35K instate or OOS?

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So, is 35K instate or OOS?
That has to be instate.

2008-2009
Resident tuition: $25,288
Non-Resident tuition: $39,461
http://www.aacom.org/resources/bookstore/cib/Documents/cib2010/2010-umdnj-som.pdf

That has to be instate.

2008-2009
Resident tuition: $25,288
Non-Resident tuition: $39,461
http://www.aacom.org/resources/bookstore/cib/Documents/cib2010/2010-umdnj-som.pdf

Duh. I'm not thinking properly this morning.

I really hope OOS tuition isn't going to skyrocket like MSUs... ackackack.

Probably still wouldn't keep me from coming though, so long as the 1 year IS status eligibility stays the same. :rolleyes:

how did you find out about this. when i called they told me they cant disclose this kind of information. do you know when the waitlist will start moving?

that's what i was told when i called last week.

Do any other colleges offer OOS students in state tution after the 1st year?I understand that UMDNJ has had a huge cut in funding and they possibly will not offer instate tution after the first year for out of state residents. Is that true?

We had a meeting with one of the Provosts of UMDNJ last week, and she said that while a number has not been set yet, the tuition WILL go up. The school has fought through some financial difficulty over the past couple years, and has righted the ship, but as a result of declining state funding and the desire to decrease reliance on safety-net reimbursement for care at University Hospital (NJMS's main hospital in Newark), they're 100% absolutely going to have to raise tuition a significant amount. It would not surprise anyone here to see tuition go up multiple thousands of dollars (speculation here among the people I talk with is somewhere 5-10k though that is just a guess) though the number will not be set until some time around the end of the month. Getting in-state tuition as a first year is a thing of the past. I don't believe they did it this year (or at least they hadn't planned on it). Even if tuition goes up, though, this is one of the most cost-friendly schools around, especially in the Osteopathic world. Don't worry about the cost. If you get in, come.

I am referring to tution after the 1st year for OOS students. I understand UMDNJ will not give in state tution for OOS after the 1st year because of the budget cut. I undertand this will save UMDNJ plenty of money.

On the umdnj-som admissions website it says that current Tuition (2009-2010):
In State $26,227
Out-of-State $41,039

If the new numbers predict 35 k for in state tuition for the incoming class, I strongly hope we would not infer that oos tuition for the first year will be 50k.. and then 35k each year after (assuming NJ residency attained) Tuition was a big reason I have been leaning at umdnj over nycom. Whereas tuition at nycom will always be more, this closes the gap in tuition quite a bit. I hope they have hard numbers to give us at accepted students day at the end of the month.

On the umdnj-som admissions website it says that current Tuition (2009-2010):
In State $26,227
Out-of-State $41,039

If the new numbers predict 35 k for in state tuition for the incoming class, I strongly hope we would not infer that oos tuition for the first year will be 50k.. and then 35k each year after (assuming NJ residency attained)

No kidding. 50K would be unacceptable. 41K is already over average for the schools I've been applying to, MD and DO included.

No kidding. 50K would be unacceptable. 41K is already over average for the schools I've been applying to, MD and DO included.

Well it is a logical step, seeing as the state of New Jersey has over 11 billion dollars in debt. This is a huge hole in the system and an easy way to capitalize on oos studentso choose UMDNJ. To my knowledge, this is the only state that does this "oos conversion to in state" in just one year. The current system is not cost friendly and the state doesnt really benefit from having more "instate" residents who are actually just students for four years and will soon leave the state in any case, which results in the state losing about 20 k each year for ever oos student that enrolls.

While 50k is more than previous years for OOS, it is essentially around average for other medical schools, and it should be an expected increase this year.

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Has anyone from the alternate list called for an update recently? I'm curious if there has been any movement and if anyone knows the number of people on the list right now.

Thanks!

Has anyone from the alternate list called for an update recently? I'm curious if there has been any movement and if anyone knows the number of people on the list right now.

Thanks!
Based on what I've heard and read from previous years, I don't think the alternate list starts to move for another couple of months.

On the umdnj-som admissions website it says that current Tuition (2009-2010):
In State $26,227
Out-of-State $41,039

If the new numbers predict 35 k for in state tuition for the incoming class, I strongly hope we would not infer that oos tuition for the first year will be 50k.. and then 35k each year after (assuming NJ residency attained) Tuition was a big reason I have been leaning at umdnj over nycom. Whereas tuition at nycom will always be more, this closes the gap in tuition quite a bit. I hope they have hard numbers to give us at accepted students day at the end of the month.

word has it a 10-15% increase, not a $10,000 increase.

Based on what I've heard and read from previous years, I don't think the alternate list starts to move for another couple of months.

In any case, it's not even the third Friday of March yet, so assuming they're still reviewing on third Fridays only...

Hey everyone,

I saw that the school is having an Open House on April 23rd. I am applying this summer and am really interested in UMDNJ, would you guys recommend attending the Open House? I am really not familiar with NJ all that much, but hear great things about the school. Has anyone attended the open house in the past, is it worth going to?

The reason I ask is because their website states, "This may be what you need for that interview. We know it's part of what you will need in order to become a successful candidate." regarding the open house.

Thanks and good luck to all :)



Calvin

Where would you be traveling from?

I really love UMDNJ-SOM and think it would be a good idea to attend the open house. The dean is very approachable should you wish to introduce yourself. You may be able to use this experience in your secondary essay and/or interview.

Where would you be traveling from?

I really love UMDNJ-SOM and think it would be a good idea to attend the open house. The dean is very approachable should you wish to introduce yourself. You may be able to use this experience in your secondary essay and/or interview.

Thanks! May I PM you if I have any more questions?
I will be travelling from LI, but I am from NYC.

Thanks! May I PM you if I have any more questions?
I will be travelling from LI, but I am from NYC.

Going to the open house is a great way to make a first impression on the admissions director. If you have any questions, she is willing to take the time to talk to you about them. In addition, you get to see the campus first hand and really see if this is where you can see yourself during medical school.

As for directions, coming from Long Island it really depends which way you take. If you take the GWB, you take the NJ Turnpike South to exit 4. Then take Rt. 70 to Rt. 295 South and go to Rt. 30 East. If you go through Staten Island (which I am not sure why you would, but if you do) take 440 to the Outerbridge Crossing to 287 North. Then get on the NJ turnpike south and follow the directions above.

Thanks! May I PM you if I have any more questions?
I will be travelling from LI, but I am from NYC.
I apologize for how what I said could be misleading. I love the school as someone who has been accepted and may be attending this August. I'm not a current student. If there is anything that I may be able to help you with though, feel free to PM me. If you're coming from LI/NYC, I'd make the trip down for the open house. If you were halfway across the country, maybe not.

EMT2ER-DOC,

Thanks so much for the advice and directions detail!

Elftown, its cool no worries. Thanks for the tip anyway.

Take care and I'll be sure to pop in and ask questions if they arise :)

Calvin

Quick question - are lectures recorded at UMDNJ SOM? I seem to remember the answer as yes, but I'm not sure.

Quick question - are lectures recorded at UMDNJ SOM? I seem to remember the answer as yes, but I'm not sure.

yes they are. However, you may no longer be able to download them onto your ipod due to copywrite issues that the professors were concerned about.

yes they are. However, you may no longer be able to download them onto your ipod due to copywrite issues that the professors were concerned about.

Awesome. I also don't have an iPod (I know.. I don't even have text on my cellphone! It's like I'm some kind of caveman), so that makes things easy. Thanks much.

Has anyone seen the hanging art display in the University Doctors Pavilion? It is a hand made up of a ton of little hanging heads, strangely befitting to PCOM's motto, Mens et Manus (The Mind and the Hand).

Has anyone seen the hanging art display in the University Doctors Pavilion? It is a hand made up of a ton of little hanging heads, strangely befitting to PCOM's motto, Mens et Manus (The Mind and the Hand).

Yeah, I saw it on my visit. Kind of cool, kind of freaky because at first I thought the heads were skulls.

yes they are. However, you may no longer be able to download them onto your ipod due to copywrite issues that the professors were concerned about.

they offer the recordings for download as well. podcasting is also available. i scribe the lectures during the weekends if i feel i missed something and it works great.

they offer the recordings for download as well. podcasting is also available. i scribe the lectures during the weekends if i feel i missed something and it works great.

Awesome. That's a feature that my younger brother has access to now in undergrad and it sounds like it's an integral part of his studying.

anyone start filling out paperwork for financial aid/housing? there must be dozens of damn forms to fill out. I don't even know what I'm writing for half of them.

Does the school have a gym?

Does the school have a gym?
Yes, but you need to pay for a membership. I don't remember how much it costs.

Yes, but you need to pay for a membership. I don't remember how much it costs.

Lame....

So much for tuition...

But thanks for your answer.

Lame....

So much for tuition...

But thanks for your answer.

I think it is some ridiculous price like $55/year or something like that.

I think it is some ridiculous price like $55/year or something like that.

its like 90-100 bucks. Not bad at all. a lot of students use the facilities. you can have a quick workout right at school. also there is a ballys which offers students 100 bucks for the year as well and has a pool.

Another question...

I'm coming from the westcoast and I haven't been able to check out the area yet. Needless to say, I know nothing about the area.

Can I get by without a car? How is the public transportation?

Thanks again.

Another question...

I'm coming from the westcoast and I haven't been able to check out the area yet. Needless to say, I know nothing about the area.

Can I get by without a car? How is the public transportation?

Thanks again.

It's in the suburbs, so it might be kind of pain w/o a car. However, it is close to a train station, so you might be able to get by.

Anyone else waiting to hear back today?

Another question...

I'm coming from the westcoast and I haven't been able to check out the area yet. Needless to say, I know nothing about the area.

Can I get by without a car? How is the public transportation?

Thanks again.

for the first 2 years it should be OK as long as you either live with a roommate that has a car or you get an apartment within walking distance. However, you must have one by 3rd year.

School gym is really weak, but some people make do because it's incredibly cheap. Bally used to give students a discount but that's a thing of the past. It's roughly $25-30 a month, and is starting to fall into disrepair, so a number of people have/are going to abandon that. A 24hr gym just opened in the area and they're having promotions right now, as is a newly opening LA Fitness.

So I really love UMDNJ SOM and would love to attend in the Fall but I didn't receive a call today. Does anyone know if they call immediately after the meeting at 1?


Let's hope the waitlist starts moving soon:xf:

Gymdoc - call on Monday. You should be able to get an answer.

School gym is really weak, but some people make do because it's incredibly cheap. Bally used to give students a discount but that's a thing of the past. It's roughly $25-30 a month, and is starting to fall into disrepair, so a number of people have/are going to abandon that. A 24hr gym just opened in the area and they're having promotions right now, as is a newly opening LA Fitness.

Well, as long as they have a squat rack (cage) style, pull up bar, and some flat benches, I think I'll be ok.

Oh, and as long as I'm not asked to leave the gym for using chalk...

I don't know what typical numbers for this look like, but a 98.8% match rate between UMDNJ's three medical schools sounds pretty good. Congrats to them. I hope they all got their first choice. :)

Received the call on Friday some time between 2-3. Will likely be attending in the fall. Good luck everyone!

Oh wow. I thought the class was full. Congrats rc249jnx!

Has anyone received a rejection letter who hasn't interviewed yet? Are they still conducting interviews?

Has anyone received a rejection letter who hasn't interviewed yet? Are they still conducting interviews?

I believe interviews will continue until mid-April.

How does everyone feel about this Rowan situation? I kind of wish they weren't doing it, but what can ya do.

How does everyone feel about this Rowan situation? I kind of wish they weren't doing it, but what can ya do.

Explanation please.

Explanation please.
It seemed cool that SOM was the medical school of South Jersey. Even one of the main signs outside the SOM complex says that on it.

NJ is broke and cutting funding to UMDNJ (which was created to be the institution for health sciences in NJ) yet is fronting the cash for this project. If we can't afford to fund UMDNJ, how can we possibly add on another state school at this time?

The fact that the dean even had to release a letter stating that the new school won't replace SOM worries me. Our incompetent politicians making decisions for our schools worries me. I know SOM has Kennedy, but don't SOM students just do their core rotations through Kennedy?

I just read up on an article about it.

"Independent studies by both Cooper and UMDNJ concluded that there is a significant need for a four year medical school in South Jersey, and that Cooper and its medical faculty are well prepared to meet that need." - From Rowan Today.

Wow - two schools within, what, 20 miles? 10 miles?

Man.. they're really pushing Rowan. There's already a Facebook fan page for Cooper MS.

Edit: From Cooper MS's webpage - "There is a shortage of M.D. graduates, and we need to solve this problem before it becomes a health care crisis. New Jersey ranks 33rd of all states in graduating M.D.s."
http://www.cooperhealth.org/content/cooper_medical_school_rowan_university_faq.htm

According to google maps: 11.3 miles, 16 minutes (taking US-30 W).

I attended the presentation they had a few weeks ago about the financial crisis and it was not very uplifting. It sounded like, "We are raising tuition by an unknown amount and please give us money when you become doctors." Even a current SOM student asked whether there are plans to close down the school.

In response to your edit: I don't see why they care so much about graduating "M.D.s." ... sigh

UMDNJ has had Cooper as the hospital for RWJ for a long time. In addition, UMDNJ has been trying to acquire cooper as a core hospital. However, every since the issue with billing at Newark and the scrutiny that UMDNJ has been under as well as a financial reduction, it was decided by the higher ups that the contract with Cooper will be terminated.

I would not worry about SOM shutting down any time in the future. They are predicting that within 10 years the state will have a shortage of 2500 primary care physicians. And since most MD students shudder at the thought of not going into a super specialty that only leaves the SOM students who have a tendency to enter into primary care.

NJ does not have any private medical schools. Look at NYC where there is Columbia, Mount Sinai, NYCOM, Downstate, NYU, and Albert Einstein all within 30 minutes of each other.

Relax, it will be alright. As for tuition, word on the street is a 15% increase.

According to google maps: 11.3 miles, 16 minutes (taking US-30 W).

I attended the presentation they had a few weeks ago about the financial crisis and it was not very uplifting. It sounded like, "We are raising tuition by an unknown amount and please give us money when you become doctors." Even a current SOM student asked whether there are plans to close down the school.

In response to your edit: I don't see why they care so much about graduating "M.D.s." ... sigh

I'm not concerned about the school closing down. It wouldn't make sense to close down a school if they are opening another one up b/c we don't have enough doctors. A lot of states are in our position, and I hope that we can get our finances in order.

last week i joined the umdnj class of 2014 facebook group and started making friends, talking to people about the rooming situation, without realizing i joined the umdnj osteopathic med SOM group. i'm so stupid. see you in august

I just read up on an article about it.

"Independent studies by both Cooper and UMDNJ concluded that there is a significant need for a four year medical school in South Jersey, and that Cooper and its medical faculty are well prepared to meet that need." - From Rowan Today.

Wow - two schools within, what, 20 miles? 10 miles?

Man.. they're really pushing Rowan. There's already a Facebook fan page for Cooper MS.

Edit: From Cooper MS's webpage - "There is a shortage of M.D. graduates, and we need to solve this problem before it becomes a health care crisis. New Jersey ranks 33rd of all states in graduating M.D.s."
http://www.cooperhealth.org/content/cooper_medical_school_rowan_university_faq.htm

in my opinion, if this new medical school was opening up near NJMS you could bet that UMDNJ would have stopped that from happening. Even the local papers said this was the first medical school in south jersey. It would have been great to have Cooper as part of the UMDNJ system. As of right now both RWJ and NJMS have their trauma I level hospitals while SOM does not. I feel this would provide more opportunities during rotations etc for us. i think the first class is 2012?

i think in the end we will be fine.

hey everyone.. i guess i'm kinda late getting onto this forum.. but when i came across it, i definitely had to join

i was accepted back in december (3.4/29O) so to all my future classmates in the class of 2014.. congratulations! and to everyone waiting.. don't give up hope.. i know people who have gotten in pretty late in the admissions process

i look forward to seeing you all at accepted students day on friday!

ok...so what is this accepted students day again? this friday? thought we already had a luncheon a month or two back. this is for the allopathic school right? i'm so dumb.

ok...so what is this accepted students day again? this friday? thought we already had a luncheon a month or two back. this is for the allopathic school right? i'm so dumb.
The Accepted Students Day for the School of Osteopathic Medicine is this Friday. You're in the Pre-Medical Osteopathic [DO] forum.

one thing to note for anyone who is looking to apply into the class of 2015.. what i found out from one of my friends who is a 3rd year student here is that your admissions file contains everything.. and as someone had mentioned earlier that admissions at UMDNJ works on a point system.. they take your GPA and your MCAT score and multiply it by some value to get some combined score.. if your combined score is higher than a certain number then they invite you in for an interview.. then your interviewer gives you a score that is multiplied by something and added to your MCAT and GPA score.. this number has to be higher than some predetermined value in order to be accepted.. and if it isnt, then as long as its higher than the waitlist score then you get waitlisted.. and if its lower than that, then you get rejected.. but here are some things you may not know about the scoring system.. as i said everything is recorded in your file.. so here are some tips to increase your score.. call the admissions office and say you want to come visit the school.. that counts for some points.. meet with the admissions advisor (paula watkins).. that counts for some points.. ask the office when you set up your visit if you can shadow a student.. that counts for some points.. so those are some extra things as an applicant you can do to show how much you want to go to this school.. i hope everything works out for anyone applying!

I just received the email for the Accepted Students day today, and RSVP was due last Friday... I guess I won't be going. :(

I just received the email for the Accepted Students day today, and RSVP was due last Friday... I guess I won't be going. :(

call the office and see if you can RSVP. What is the worse they can say?

I know this has probably been asked a million times but I need to know if there are any updates on acceptances. So is the class full? ?Are they still interviewing?

I'm just so frustrated because I was told by phone that I was accepted to the school... only to get a mailed letter a couple weeks later saying I was waitlisted. I was so upset but I still would really would love to go to this school if accepted.

I know this has probably been asked a million times but I need to know if there are any updates on acceptances. So is the class full? ?Are they still interviewing?

I'm just so frustrated because I was told by phone that I was accepted to the school... only to get a mailed letter a couple weeks later saying I was waitlisted. I was so upset but I still would really would love to go to this school if accepted.

do you remember who called you? did they talk about paying a deposit? i would be pretty upset if i received that call but was waitlisted. call the office and double check.

Hey guys, just wanted to wish you all good luck in getting in. I was at UMDNJ on Friday and they had the president of the Student Government (or something like that..) talk to us and she said she had been accepted off the waitlist in the summer. My point is just don't give up!! ^_^

I know this has probably been asked a million times but I need to know if there are any updates on acceptances. So is the class full? ?Are they still interviewing?

I'm just so frustrated because I was told by phone that I was accepted to the school... only to get a mailed letter a couple weeks later saying I was waitlisted. I was so upset but I still would really would love to go to this school if accepted.

One of the faculty members at the Accepted Students' Day said something that gave me the impression that the class was full. Is there someone else that can confirm/deny?

One of the faculty members at the Accepted Students' Day said something that gave me the impression that the class was full. Is there someone else that can confirm/deny?

I was told the same thing.

I was told the same thing.

I was told the class was full all the way back in mid-February.

It seems that historically, the waitlist at this school moves quite a bit.

well just because the class is now "full" doesn't necessarily mean that everyone will attend right? People still have the opportunity to drop if they choose to go elsewhere....I feel like especially at UMDNJ where the deposit isn't as significant as other schools, most people would hold their spot because it isn't as much of a financial "hit"

well just because the class is now "full" doesn't necessarily mean that everyone will attend right?

I believe that when a school says that a class is 'full', it means that they've given out all of the initial accepted slots they're willing to chance on. For example - I know that a few years ago, UMichigan Medical School would offer 3 acceptances for every open seat in the class. They knew from history that they would be pretty safe (i.e. they won't overadmit) doing so.

So, yeah. There's a good chance that they will take people from the waitlist after interviews are over in mid-April. Of course, weird things do happen. I think Western had only taken 2 people off of the waitlist by June last year, and I read something ambiguous on SDN that possibly indicated less than 10 people getting off of the UMDNJ waitlist in 2004.

Then again, somebody else here has said that they were only in the "top 50%" of the waitlist at UMDNJ and made it in around June, I think. My point is that it changes from year to year.

When I interviewed with Dr. Krueger, he told me that UMDNJ-SOM does not accept more people than there are open seats. So for each person that declines acceptance one person gets pulled off the wait list. By all accounts the wait list at SOM moves a lot. The woman I spoke to on the phone at admissions said that based on my position on the list she was confident I would be offered a spot, she just couldn't be sure when. Hopefully all of us wait-ers will get good news soon.

adcom meets tom...good luck to all the waitlisters...hopefully a few of us get phone callss...plz update if any of you do receive a call tomorrow

I withdrew on Tuesday. I really hope one of you gets the spot. Good luck!!! :love:

When I interviewed with Dr. Krueger, he told me that UMDNJ-SOM does not accept more people than there are open seats. So for each person that declines acceptance one person gets pulled off the wait list. By all accounts the wait list at SOM moves a lot. The woman I spoke to on the phone at admissions said that based on my position on the list she was confident I would be offered a spot, she just couldn't be sure when. Hopefully all of us wait-ers will get good news soon.


Do you know what percent you were in?

I called today and although they met today she said they will not be making phone calls until next week. I have no clue why that is!

I was also told by the receptionist that on average about 25% of the waitlist gets accepted.

Does anyone know what those nice looking condos by UMDNJ are called? (the ones where construction is being done to add new buildings)

Do you know what percent you were in?

She said top 5%.
I've heard, in general, the top third has a good chance.

I was upset when I learned that you need to have Windows for certain programs that are being used by UMDNJ (I have a Mac). I have a copy of XP that someone gave me, but I'd rather try to do this legally (so much has changed over the years :)). Does anyone know where I can get a heavy duty student discount? I don't want to drop $200 for Windows 7 Home Premium.

Yeah, I didn't like hearing that either, DocHomer.

On another note, the financial aid section of the UMDNJ portal had shown $35,000 for tuition under the cost of attendance. Today it's showing $26,227. Are they raising tuition or not? What the hell is going on? This is a tremendous difference. I just tried calling the financial aid office but no one answered. I'll try again in a bit.

Yeah, I didn't like hearing that either, DocHomer.

On another note, the financial aid section of the UMDNJ portal had shown $35,000 for tuition under the cost of attendance. Today it's showing $26,227. Are they raising tuition or not? What the hell is going on? This is a tremendous difference. I just tried calling the financial aid office but no one answered. I'll try again in a bit.

My tuition is still listed as $35K. Hmmm...?

Mine still says 35k also, which I assume is the In State amount even though I am an Out Of State student. (I highly doubt OOS tuition dropped) I'm having difficulty knowing how much aid I'll need without knowing the actual OOS tuition increase amounts... frustrating.

I called three times on Friday and just got home now and tried again. Why do they never answer the phone? Heh.

This is what my cost of attendance looks like:

Budget Component Amount
Books & Supplies......$2,910.00
Fees Only...............$2,951.00
Personal.................$4,010.00
Room & Board........$13,650.00
Transportation........$4,230.00
Tuition Only..........$26,227.00
Total:..................$53,978.00

where is everyone living?

I was upset when I learned that you need to have Windows for certain programs that are being used by UMDNJ (I have a Mac). I have a copy of XP that someone gave me, but I'd rather try to do this legally (so much has changed over the years :)). Does anyone know where I can get a heavy duty student discount? I don't want to drop $200 for Windows 7 Home Premium.


Try http://win741.com/

It used to be $30 but now it's $65.

Does anybody know what SOM's attrition rate is?

I just sent the e-mail withdrawing from my spot in the class. I hope one of you whose top choice is UMDNJ gets my spot. Good luck everyone!

Does anybody know what SOM's attrition rate is?
I've asked this to an SOM student and an SOM alumnus on separate occasions. It sounds like they do whatever they can to help the student and that it is unheard of for someone to drop out.

I just sent the e-mail withdrawing from my spot in the class. I hope one of you whose top choice is UMDNJ gets my spot. Good luck everyone!
Good luck out there, X!

By the way, so I got into UMDNJ today! Yay!

They told me that tuition is only going to raise 4%. I say "only" because I thought it'd be much more. The "OOS to instate tuition after one year" thing is going to stay.

Given the nation's and New Jersey's economic climate, the proposed State Budget for Fiscal Year (FY) 2011 is not unexpected, albeit challenging. Under the Governor's budget proposal, UMDNJ's State appropriations for FY2011 will be cut approximately $30 million compared to the revised FY2010 budget. You will recall that the State's revised FY2010 budget allocates $16 million less than the original budgeted amount for UMDNJ. Additionally, in FY2010, we received a one-time supplemental appropriation of $31 million ("University stabilization fund") that was not renewed for FY2011. Funding for The Cancer Institute of New Jersey (CINJ) remains stable compared to the beginning of FY2010, and the statewide funding for charity care is expected to increase by $60 million (10%).http://www.umdnj.edu/presweb/president/desk/State-Budget-Proposal-2010.html

Am I reading this correctly? It looks like for FY2011, UMDNJ will be getting $77 million less than what had been intended for FY2010.

http://www.umdnj.edu/presweb/president/desk/State-Budget-Proposal-2010.html

Am I reading this correctly? It looks like for FY2011, UMDNJ will be getting $77 million less than what had been intended for FY2010.

Err.. I'm not sure if it's fair to count the 31 million$ into that.. seems like it was a one-shot deal anyway.

So you've decided on SOM?

Err.. I'm not sure if it's fair to count the 31 million$ into that.. seems like it was a one-shot deal anyway.

So you've decided on SOM?
No decision yet. Go on FB chat. :)

By the way, so I got into UMDNJ today! Yay!

They told me that tuition is only going to raise 4%. I say "only" because I thought it'd be much more. The "OOS to instate tuition after one year" thing is going to stay.
congrats Cheshyre! did you happen to know where you were on the waitlist? I'm just trying to figure out how much of the waitlist has moved so far. i'm waitlisted too and really anxious about the whole thing.

congrats Cheshyre! did you happen to know where you were on the waitlist? I'm just trying to figure out how much of the waitlist has moved so far. i'm waitlisted too and really anxious about the whole thing.

I was "in the top ten." I didn't bother asking whether it was top ten by position or top ten by percentage.

It seems that historically the waitlist moves quite a bit. The waitlist would've just started moving since interviews only ended a little while ago.

Okay, thanks for the info. I think they generally give people their rankings based on percentages, so I would assume you were in the top 10%. Maybe its just my wishful thinking that 10% moved already.

Does anybody know what SOM's attrition rate is?

There are many different safety nets available. The school does it hardest to ensure that you complete the program.

1) Small Class size. Because of this, the professors know who you are and they are available to help you. You can meet them after class or set up an appointment to meet with you. They will not let you leave the meeting until you feel that you understand the material.

2) No GPA. Because of this, there is no class rank. As a result, there is a cooperation among your fellow students where if you ask for help, they are more the happy to do so. Usually the upper classmen can help you out. There is no competition among students because there is no curve in the exams either.

3) The Center for Teaching and Learning. This is a department whose only goal is to help the students succeed. Ranging from advice on study habits to test taking skills, to hiring upper classmen as student tutors at no cost to you. Sometimes the upper classmen will run a review session for example: The Pathology Club reviewed Histology Slides, SOSA did an Anatomy Review. Student TA for microbiology would do a review before each exam. UAAO doing a review before the OMM exams.

The administration that admitted you believes that you can do the work and they invested a lot in you. As a result, the school will do all it can short of taking the exams for you to ensure that you will succeed.

I hope that this answered your questions. If you have any others, let me know.

By the way, so I got into UMDNJ today! Yay!

They told me that tuition is only going to raise 4%. I say "only" because I thought it'd be much more. The "OOS to instate tuition after one year" thing is going to stay.

First, congratulations!

Second, only 4%? That is fantastic. I was expecting a much higher increase.

Thanks a lot EMT. UMDNJ actually got to me a bit later than I would've liked, and I already have a $2K deposit in to another school that I love just as much. It's a tough decision, so any information I can get now from current students is like gold.

As per Dean Cavalieri himself, the 4% increase is only for undergraduate schools. Until the state passes the budget (expected in July), UMDNJ won't know how much their tuition will go up. He said that in the past they've had 4% increases, so it will likely be more than that. They have no way of knowing yet, but he said it'll probably be closer to 8%.

Rutgers, NJIT discuss possible dismantling of University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey
The current restructuring concept calls for: NJIT to take over, among other things, medical, dental and nursing schools in Newark; Rutgers would get control of a medical school, the Cancer Institute of New Jersey and the School of Biomedical Sciences in Middlesex County; Rowan would gain the school of osteopathic medicine in Camden County.http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/04/umdnj_rutgers_merger.html



E-mail from the President of UMDNJ:
Dear Members of the UMDNJ Community:

I want to provide some important perspective to the story about a proposed restructuring of UMDNJ that many of you have probably read in today's Star-Ledger.

First, I want to remind you that this is not a new issue. Those familiar with the University's history may recall that a related plan was first proposed years ago. The idea has been raised periodically in recent years. But for many reasons, including financial feasibility, the proposal never got beyond the discussion stage. Although I did not participate in any recently reported discussions, I am well aware that the conversation has occurred in some circles.

For New Jersey's public universities to reach the level of excellence to which we all aspire, we must all participate in open and honest dialogue. Nevertheless, any proposed restructuring of UMDNJ is ill-advised and not a sound option for New Jersey, the research community, or the institutions in question. It was not a good idea when it was first proposed; it is a less valid option today.

UMDNJ is a valuable State asset. We are New Jersey's leading provider of clinical care. Our above average "match day" success rate placing our students in the finest residency programs nationwide is a testament to the education we provide. We are a premier research institution, leading the State in NIH and ARRA grants. Our research and discovery are bringing added value to the New Jersey economy through new patents and licenses, and the creation of our Clinical Research Organization promises to realize additional benefits for our State.

The measures we are putting in place under the financial road map are making UMDNJ a stronger, more efficient and more financially self-reliant academic medical center.

Let's not allow the replay of this old story to distract us from the many important tasks ahead nor undermine the fact that UMDNJ is a strong institution serving the State of New Jersey with excellence in research, education, health care and community service. Thank you.

Sincerely,



William F. Owen, Jr., MD
President

I am getting a little anxious over the waitlist movement. It's been really slow this year. Does anybody with experience in this matter know if it will pick up after may 15? Or no.

"Hands-on" Manipulative Treatment Shortens Hospital Stay and Decreases Mortality in Older Adults Hospitalized with Pneumonia

http://www.umdnj.edu/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/hpappweb/newsroom.cgi?month=05&day=04&year=10&headline=%20Hands%20on%20%20Manipulative%20Treatme nt%20Shortens%20Hospital%20Stay%20and%20Decreases% 20Mortality%20in%20Older%20Adults%20Hospitalized%2 0with%20Pneumonia

I am getting a little anxious over the waitlist movement. It's been really slow this year. Does anybody with experience in this matter know if it will pick up after may 15? Or no.
I thought May 15 was only for MD schools.

MD schools: Must choose a school by May 15 or you will lose your deposits.
DO schools: Don't need to choose by May 15 -- you're going to lose your deposits anyway.

Yes it is for MD schools but some of the accepted students may have applied to MD schools and been accepted and deposited at both SOM and RWJ or NJMS. A lot of people may apply to all 3 NJ schools due to the in-state tuition. So some of those people may decide to go to NJMS or RWJ and withdraw from SOM.

Yes it is for MD schools but some of the accepted students may have applied to MD schools and been accepted and deposited at both SOM and RWJ or NJMS. A lot of people may apply to all 3 NJ schools due to the in-state tuition. So some of those people may decide to go to NJMS or RWJ and withdraw from SOM.
Good point, but there would be no need to withdraw from SOM by the 15th.

They may not need to but I know if you matriculate (not sure if that means you start classes or just make the deposit) at one NJ school you automatically get withdrawn from the others. And even if that's not the case, if you plan to go to another, its not to your advantage to keep the other acceptance as you'll start getting forms to fill out, more bills, etc. So hopefully if someone intends to go elsewhere, they will withdraw even if they don't have to.

Beth

...if you plan to go to another, its not to your advantage to keep the other acceptance as you'll start getting forms to fill out, more bills, etc. So hopefully if someone intends to go elsewhere, they will withdraw even if they don't have to.



..but the whole point of holding on to multiple deposits is because you haven't figured out where to withdraw from yet. You're paying the extra money to buy yourself more decision-making time.

I received this email a few moments ago:

"May 12, 2010

Dear Accepted Student,

We have just been advised that MacBooks are compatible with the programs that you will need to access while at UMDNJ-SOM. So if you own a MAC computer, you can use it!

We will forward additional information as soon as it becomes available. If you have any questions, please contact our Admissions Office at (856) 566-7050.

Sincerely,

Paula Watkins
Director of Enrollment Services"

I don't need to spend $200 for a copy of Windows 7!

I just saw that email too! I don't have a macbook but I was thinking if I go to UMDNJ, perhaps I'll get one with the money I'd save in tuition. :)

I just saw that email too! I don't have a macbook but I was thinking if I go to UMDNJ, perhaps I'll get one with the money I'd save in tuition. :)

Go for it! I just got one and I like the Mac OS better. It takes some getting used to the Mac way of doing things, but you'll get the hang of it.

anyone know how the waitlist is working... besides that it's ranked? i wonder how much has moved...

I checked, it's not moved much in the past 2 weeks, they said it's slower than usual. I only went up about 2% in the past 2 weeks. There's over 200 people on the wait list. They hope it may start moving more next week.

I got in this morning!

For those of you who are on the waitlist, it's moving...

interviewed: 3/22
waitlisted: 4/19
accepted: 5/17

Good luck!!! :xf:

Do you know what your rank was on the waitlist last you checked? (what % approximately)? (if you don't want to post here, feel free to PM me if you feel comfortable doing so).

Congratulations!!

Do you know what your rank was on the waitlist last you checked? (what % approximately)? (if you don't want to post here, feel free to PM me if you feel comfortable doing so).

Congratulations!!

Thanks! This is my first acceptance so I'm actually really excited...

I didn't know that we could find out where we are on the waitlist, so I never thought to ask! Sorry - if I find out in the next couple of days, I'll be sure to post.

Good luck to those still waiting.

Thanks! This is my first acceptance so I'm actually really excited...

I didn't know that we could find out where we are on the waitlist, so I never thought to ask! Sorry - if I find out in the next couple of days, I'll be sure to post.

Good luck to those still waiting.

Congratulations !!!!! good for you !
can you please let us know your stats ?

anyone else off the waitlist?

Waitlisted (OOS) on the lower 1/4. Anybody from the 1/2 get in off the waitlist. Does anybody know how many people have locked up the spots.

So have we confirmed that out of state students will definitely get in state tuition after the first year?

So have we confirmed that out of state students will definitely get in state tuition after the first year?

That's what I was told repeatedly by the admissions office. However, I've since withdrawn (for other reasons than tuition.. I actually chose a way more expensive school).

just to give you guys a heads up, UMDNJ-SOM does fin aid BEFORE they have the budget. what happens is the frequently give you less than you need for cost of attendance. You end up having to get emergency loan dispersments.

just an FYI. if the budget comes in at 4-8% higher increase in tuition, you will be scrambling for money.

It seemed cool that SOM was the medical school of South Jersey. Even one of the main signs outside the SOM complex says that on it.

NJ is broke and cutting funding to UMDNJ (which was created to be the institution for health sciences in NJ) yet is fronting the cash for this project. If we can't afford to fund UMDNJ, how can we possibly add on another state school at this time?

The fact that the dean even had to release a letter stating that the new school won't replace SOM worries me. Our incompetent politicians making decisions for our schools worries me. I know SOM has Kennedy, but don't SOM students just do their core rotations through Kennedy?

kennedy actually wants UMDNJ out of the hospital. there are talks of rotations going to Vineland, NJ.

Does the school have a gym?

not a good one. avoid the 2 gyms in lindenwold at all costs though on whitehorse pike. people have had issues with them and billing.

kennedy actually wants UMDNJ out of the hospital. there are talks of rotations going to Vineland, NJ.
Would you mind elaborating?

Would you mind elaborating?

I think this is what Pharma is referring to. However, it seems like more of an expansion rather than a relocation.

http://www.nj.com/cumberland/index.ssf/2010/05/umdnj_officials_eplore_their_o.html

kennedy actually wants UMDNJ out of the hospital. there are talks of rotations going to Vineland, NJ.

I would like to know where you are getting your information. I have not heard much on this end. If you think about it UMDNJ provides almost free workforce to kennedy in the form of students and residents. Unless kennedy would like to start their own residency program or drop having any residents at all, I do not foresee this as happening.

Regarding the Vineland information. We are expanding the class size and putting almost 300 students in Kennedy per year (150 3rd and 150 4th years) is not very fair to the students nor to kennedy. Therefor the school is looking to expand the hospitals that will allow our students to rotate through. So rather than having you find your own rotation sites in 3rd year, you will have a choice of Kennedy, Vineland, Jersey Shore, St. Christophers, St. Josephs.

All of this that you are reading is very, very, very preliminary. All talk right now. But I do not foresee that Kennedy will sever its relationship with UMDNJ. Unless you know something that I do not.

I am very concerned that this provison will change. With the way the N ew Jersey finances are, I dont think this wonderful / Unique benefit will be continued, I understand UMDNJ is reviewing this provison seriously and may withdraw this anytime without notice, making us scramble for funding.

i heard something very similar to this as well from a second year student.

There probably won't be any official news regarding the instate/out-of-state tuition until July when the state budget is released.

As for new rotation sites... one thing I like about UMDNJ-SOM is that you can do your rotations all relatively close to campus with Kennedy. However, I've been working at Jersey Shore University Medical Center for over four years; I wouldn't mind walking in there with a white coat. :)

Got in off the Alternate List today! Good luck and see you in August.

Congrats MI Stapes!! I'll see you on August 1 for our white coats! :D

You should join the UMDNJ-SOM Class of 2014 facebook group: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=285565441359

wheres everyone living?

wheres everyone living?
No idea yet.

Could any current students please comment on this?

The SOM website has posted in red text, "! New Academic Rules and Regulations." Without having to compare word for word this document with the current student handbook, are there any changes you know about? Anything we should be concerned about?

Also, while looking at this document and the current handbook, I noticed they both say, "Attendance at lectures, clinical rotations, and preceptorships is mandatory. Students failing to meet minimum attendance requirements for a course will receive a grade of Fail." I thought attendance wasn't mandatory ...

wheres everyone living?
not sure yet.. still looking for a roommate who can go and check out the place for me. I am in Michigan ( visiting parents) and wont be back until july 27th.
are you or any one else looking for a roommate? please contact me at patelarpan03@gmail.com. thanks!!

just to add to my previous message.the only place i heard from a friend about is tory estate.. abt 3 miles from our school... the rates for 2 bedroom/2 bathroom are 960-1000... i think its great deal for a person bath and room... for 500 or less. let me know if any one is interested because i cant move forward until i have a second person.

Could any current students please comment on this?

The SOM website has posted in red text, "! New Academic Rules and Regulations." Without having to compare word for word this document with the current student handbook, are there any changes you know about? Anything we should be concerned about?

Also, while looking at this document and the current handbook, I noticed they both say, "Attendance at lectures, clinical rotations, and preceptorships is mandatory. Students failing to meet minimum attendance requirements for a course will receive a grade of Fail." I thought attendance wasn't mandatory ...

attendance has always been mandatory. The administration will never tell you that don't have to go to class. Your tour guide should have addressed this. Each program director will determine what their policy is regarding taking attendance.

I'm considering living in the Echelon Glen and I was wondering if anyone has any insight about parking and overall safety of the area.

So are most of you planning to live in your own apartment or share with someone? (any girls looking for roommates, feel free to PM me).

Got off the lost today! Yay! Can't wait to start in august! I was originally in the top 15 percent so the list is definently moving! If anyone is looking for a really nice and modern place and is willing to pay a little more then you should chek out abitare in voorhees, park crossing in cherry hill and the victor lofts in Camden (that's where I'll be living).
Good luck to those still waiting!

hi for anyonewho got off the waitlist could you please post your stats?? thanks so much !!=)

Got off the lost today! Yay! Can't wait to start in august! I was originally in the top 15 percent so the list is definently moving! If anyone is looking for a really nice and modern place and is willing to pay a little more then you should chek out abitare in voorhees, park crossing in cherry hill and the victor lofts in Camden (that's where I'll be living).
Good luck to those still waiting!
Congrats!! :D

Just withdrew my spot. Good luck.

Maybe yours is the spot I got, just got off the waitlist today. :)

is anyone else on the waitlist on sdn? and has anyone else actually called in recently and asked if the waitlist has moved? for some reason the secretary always tells me it hasnt moved in the last two weeks... not sure why even though obviously it has since people are getting accepted..

hey ccc2009 im on the waitlist too! i wish i knew how much it typically moves. hey mmz737 do you know where on the waitlist you were? and congrats btw ! thats great news !

I called today, and they said they didn't have the waitlist in percentage form anymore, just that I was in the top 30 students. Not particularly encouraging, but I was in the top 20% about a month ago. She said the list is moving but that's all she could tell me. So frustrating! Congrats to the rest of ya'll!

It's odd, they told me % until maybe 2 weeks ago, then the actual # of students in front of me. When I first got on the waitlist, I was top 10%...it eventually went up to top 15% as other students were added, some in front of me I guess. About 4-5 weeks ago, I was top 10%, then top 5%, then maybe 2-3 weeks ago, top 2% (top 6 students), and last week or the end of the previous week, they told me I was next in line. When I got to around top 5%, they told me to start calling about twice a week. Good luck to everyone else. I'm always surprised that some people don't get that much information, maybe it depends who you speak with. I always felt like people were really friendly and helpful.

is anyone else on the waitlist on sdn? and has anyone else actually called in recently and asked if the waitlist has moved? for some reason the secretary always tells me it hasnt moved in the last two weeks... not sure why even though obviously it has since people are getting accepted..

i'm waitlisted too...and ive been hearing the same thing...little to no movement :confused:

a friend of mine just withdrew her spot via email yesterday afternoon. so whoever is next in line- you will be hearing shortly!

Hershi, where is your friend going instead? (just wondering, if you don't mind sharing ;).

Drexel...she was on a waitlist there and got a call a few days ago...

Hey! To the accepted students... Congrats! Are there many of you whom are planning to withdraw if you hear back from another school? I'm just wondering if a lot of people are holding on to multiple spots or waiting to get off of another waitlist.

Does anyone know how parking works? Is there free parking in any lot or do we have to purchase a parking spot?

Also does anyone know how to set up a my.umdnj account?

you need your pin number for my.umdnj acct..

Does anyone know how parking works? Is there free parking in any lot or do we have to purchase a parking spot?

Also does anyone know how to set up a my.umdnj account?

you will get a hang tag during your orientation week and this will allow you to park anywhere for staff and students. If you want a special parking spot, this will be extra.

Could any current students please comment on this?

The SOM website has posted in red text, "! New Academic Rules and Regulations." Without having to compare word for word this document with the current student handbook, are there any changes you know about? Anything we should be concerned about?

Also, while looking at this document and the current handbook, I noticed they both say, "Attendance at lectures, clinical rotations, and preceptorships is mandatory. Students failing to meet minimum attendance requirements for a course will receive a grade of Fail." I thought attendance wasn't mandatory ...

As EMT2ERDOC said, attendance has always officially been "mandatory" but it was up to the individual professor as to whether or not attendance would be taken. Generally, it was not enforced except for classes like OMM and Professionalism.

At this point, however, there are rumblings from within the administration that they may try to actually enforce the mandatory attendance policy in all classes. Some people I know in the class of 2013 are concerned about this and are starting a petition to oppose this; however, at at this point it isn't clear how vigorously the administration will enforce this policy, or if our petitioning would do anything to change it.

I'm considering living in the Echelon Glen and I was wondering if anyone has any insight about parking and overall safety of the area.

IMHO, Echelon Glen is very overpriced and there are cheaper and better options available just a few more miles away from the school (e.g., Timber Ridge, Cherrywood, Autumn Ridge, and many others).

Parking and safety in that area seem to be ok.

Some people I know in the class of 2013 are concerned about this and are starting a petition to oppose this; however, at at this point it isn't clear how vigorously the administration will enforce this policy, or if our petitioning would do anything to change it.

doubt it. This is why you have a class council and representation on the curriculum committee.

I was upset when I learned that you need to have Windows for certain programs that are being used by UMDNJ (I have a Mac). I have a copy of XP that someone gave me, but I'd rather try to do this legally (so much has changed over the years :)). Does anyone know where I can get a heavy duty student discount? I don't want to drop $200 for Windows 7 Home Premium.

As the school informed you before, your Mac should be perfectly fine. I know quite a few people in the class of 2013 who have used Macs for everything they've had to do for school and haven't had any issues.

doubt it. This is why you have a class council and representation on the curriculum committee.

Just reporting what I've heard. I know full well that most attempts to change policy outside of the class council fall on deaf ears.

I was wondering, for those who have been wait listed, how long did you have to wait for a decision? If you are still waiting, when were you put on the wait list? Thanks

I received an interview literally within the week I submitted my secondary. I was so excited as UMDNJ is/was my first choice. I interviewed the first week of January and was placed on the alternate list. I've been on that list since then (originally top 10% then top 18% after more interviews) and am still only in the top 30 (people, not percent) of that list now. It really sucks because I need to make other arrangements as it seems like I'm not getting in there. I guess it works out for people who are in higher parts of the list.

Just called yesterday and found out that I am in the top 5 people on the waitlist. I was wondering if any accepted students can comment if they are planning to withdraw from the school.

With two weeks left, its hard to be hopeful of getting off the waitlist.

There's always hope. If you search the forum, there's often stories of people coming off the wait list right before the white coat ceremony :o

Hey all,

I am in incoming student for 2014. I am looking at laptop options and im considering a tablet. What are your thoughts, would this be beneficial for the first two years? Advice from current students would be great.

This school is bizarre. I had great stats., came from a competitive undergrad, had great LORs, an amazing interview, but I was placed on the alternate list in September and I have remained on the “upper 10 percent” of the list since then. I stopped calling a few months ago when I made the decision to attend another school—but I’m still on the list and I’m glad to see other posts regarding this school’s inconsistency! :confused:
Maybe I'll see some of you at PCOM-Philly in Aug.! :love:

Best of luck to those still waiting to hear back!

To those of you waitlisted, I think showing interest really helps. I used to call once a week, and then when I got close, they told me to call twice a week. (I got waitlisted in Feb, accepted at the end of June). I also had visited the school twice to sit in on classes, and sent a letter of intent. You can never understand admissions, why one person gets in and another doesn't.

I'm planning to buy a macbook pro, to the person asking about laptops.

Good luck to those of you on the waitlist. If anyone is also waitlisted at NYCOM, I did withdraw my spot there so maybe that will help someone out, but I'm definitely going to UMDNJ, it was my top choice and I can't wait. :)

With two weeks left, its hard to be hopeful of getting off the waitlist.

There's a guy in the class of 2013 who was accepted the day of the white coat ceremony because somebody else didn't show up.

Last year the alternate list moved a good amount, so I think anyone in that "top 10%" portion of the list has a good chance here.

What's up guys.. I'll be a 2nd year at SOM and figured I'd throw out an offer to all of those looking for apartments. If you are planning to go to Echelon Glen and wanna make $100, send me a private message. They give $200 for recommendations for their apt complex so if you put me I'll split it with you. Hit it up.

By the way, Echelon Glen has been solid, safe, and convenient, although all the apartment complexes are too similar to worry too much about selecting. I just prefer the location of the Glen and Village.

hi everyone, i am probably posting this question in the wrong thread but hopefully someone here can help me. i am starting the MBS program at UMDNJ this fall. I have not taken the MCAT yet, but i am scheduled for July 30th and Ill take it one more time late August or early sept. So my question is...

1. would that be way late in the process? I know January is their deadline for primaries but still curious as to whether that will place me at a disadvantage or not.

2. has anyone else gone from the MBS to DO program? and if so any advice??

3. is anyone here doing a DO/PhD program?

thanks guys!

FYI

The UMDNJ Board of Trustees has finally set the tuition for 2010-2011.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/07/umdnj_to_raise_tuition_21_perc.html

An 18% increase from $26,227 to $30,948. Wow. I wonder how much it will be next year.

I just withdrew my spot this afternoon. Best of luck to the next person on the waitlist...

:thumbup:

An 18% increase from $26,227 to $30,948. Wow. I wonder how much it will be next year.

I was expecting a jump to 30K, so I wasn't surprised. NJ capped tuition hikes for undergraduates to about 4% I think, so students in graduate programs took a bigger hit than they otherwise would have. I'm hoping they cap it for us next year. :xf:

Hi All,

I bought some text books on Amazon and purchased the same book twice by mistake. Does anyone want to buy this off of me, its much cheaper than list price. Histology A Text and Atlas (Ross). 60 vs 75 list.

Thanks,

Mike

What is everyone wearing tomorrow

What is everyone wearing tomorrow
3am... I'm having trouble sleeping. :( I'll be wearing dress pants with a short sleeve collared shirt and tie. If the tie feels like too much, I'm going to take it off.