View Full Version : Applying to 70 MEDICAL SCHOOLS - what are my chances
theloveprotein 09-11-2009, 09:38 PM APPLIED TO 50 LOW TIER ALLO MD SCHOOLS AND 20 DO SCHOOLS:
i'm hoping to get interviews from about 10% of total schools ? good estimate? :luck:
sciGPA/regGPA - 3.9 graduate with honors
MCAT 28M: PS 9, VR 9, BS 10
6 yr production manager in family business, oversea production, etc
2.5 yr plant molecular bio research, 1 associated award
6 month volunter at local hospital, not many hours, although very rewarding
2 yr officer in environmental based organization
1 month ER Shadowing
8 yrs of graphic design, published work
1semester ecology research
1 semester biochem research
1 research award
1 department honors award
what is your opinion?
texahn 09-11-2009, 09:43 PM why would you apply to 70 schools
NotAsking4Much 09-11-2009, 09:51 PM APPLIED TO 50 LOW TIER ALLO MD SCHOOLS AND 20 DO SCHOOLS:
i'm hoping to get interviews from about 10% of total schools ? good estimate? :luck:
sciGPA/regGPA - 3.9 graduate with honors
MCAT 28M: PS 9, VR 9, BS 10
6 yr production manager in family business, oversea production, etc
2.5 yr plant molecular bio research, 1 associated award
6 month volunter at local hospital, not many hours, although very rewarding
2 yr officer in environmental based organization
1 month ER Shadowing
8 yrs of graphic design, published work
1semester ecology research
1 semester biochem research
1 research award
1 department honors award
what is your opinion?
I think my adviser once told me...if you're batting 0-30 or 1-30, applying to 100 won't make it 3-100.
theloveprotein 09-11-2009, 09:54 PM i thought low mcat = apply broadly
bowlin123 09-11-2009, 09:56 PM Don't apply to that many, too expensive and time-consuming. I got the exact same MCAT score and 3.6 GPA, Asian, and applied to 15 allopathic and 3 DO schools. I have already gotten 2 allopathic interviews (next friday and the following monday). I think you should be fine with your stats as long as you apply early.
medfan303 09-11-2009, 10:00 PM Hey, seriously reconsider that number. I'm pre-med, graduated college. But when I applied to undergrad schools the number was like 11-12..and that was hard enough. 70 schools? You are going to have a hard time writing all those essays etc. and it is going to show. Quality vs. quantity my friend.
Pick schools that match your profile and interests.
And if you are really that worried, you should focus on bettering your application (e.g. raise MCAT score). Spend hundreds of hours doing that and other "more focused things", rather than wasting time on 50+ extra unnecessary apps.
My 2 cents.
-Medfan
RogueUnicorn 09-12-2009, 04:51 AM waste of time. if 25 schools reject you, the other 45 aren't going to touch you.
Stratego 09-12-2009, 05:40 AM I think that having only six months of clinical experience and no additional community service makes getting any interview fairly iffy, so I hope you continue to build those hours during this application season in case you need to reapply next year (hopefully earlier in the season). Your above average research and leadership are good though. Your GPA is great. And your MCAT may be on the lower side, but your subscores are balanced.
bannie22 09-12-2009, 09:30 AM u will get in.
longhorn09 09-12-2009, 09:55 AM That is insane!!!!
Slowpoke 09-12-2009, 10:11 AM tell us how it goes. 70 is the new 20.
Aromatic Amine 09-12-2009, 10:52 AM if you dont mind me asking? how much did you spend on all of those applications?!
mmmcdowe 09-12-2009, 11:10 AM I hope you don't mind carpal tunnel.
calimed214 09-12-2009, 11:56 AM Including the $31 AMCAS submission fee, most schools cost around $100 or more to apply to. So for 70 schools, I'm guessing you spent around $7000 at least on applications alone. This doesn't even count the costs of airfare/hotels if you end up interviewing around the country. Can you really afford to do this?
teenmachinery1 09-12-2009, 12:04 PM he could probably afford it because of his family business..
theloveprotein 09-12-2009, 04:05 PM a lot of people say its a waste of time and waste of money. I have 3 grad courses only. time is not an issue, neither is the money. and yes, 70 is the new 20! there are plenty of peps applying to 40+ schools, they just don't write on forums to takl about it
by the way.... the secondaries are nearly all the same, they all ask the SAME types questions in slightly different ways (stress situation, how do you fit in to thi sschool, tell us about yourself, why are you a good canidate, ohw wud you contribute to diversity, where do you see yourself. what makesyou special, blah blah)...so the secondaries do not actually take that long to fill out (45-60mins each) (except medical school in Duluth MN, that bitch had like 10+ essays). Overall, I have a bank of 15 short essays written and I can easily taylor them to each of the schools.
anyways keep in mind, I applied to 70 schools, but as of now, I only turned in 25 secondaries. if I start to get interviews, I obviously won't complete the other 50. also, I don't have LOR from MD or DO, so I will be filtered out from many of the 20 DO schools I applied to and many MD schoosl too.
NotSur 09-12-2009, 06:28 PM a lot of people say its a waste of time and waste of money. I have 3 grad courses only. time is not an issue, neither is the money. and yes, 70 is the new 20! there are plenty of peps applying to 40+ schools, they just don't write on forums to takl about it
by the way.... the secondaries are nearly all the same, they all ask the SAME types questions in slightly different ways (stress situation, how do you fit in to thi sschool, tell us about yourself, why are you a good canidate, ohw wud you contribute to diversity, where do you see yourself. what makesyou special, blah blah)...so the secondaries do not actually take that long to fill out (45-60mins each) (except medical school in Duluth MN, that bitch had like 10+ essays). Overall, I have a bank of 15 short essays written and I can easily taylor them to each of the schools.
anyways keep in mind, I applied to 70 schools, but as of now, I only turned in 25 secondaries. if I start to get interviews, I obviously won't complete the other 50. also, I don't have LOR from MD or DO, so I will be filtered out from many of the 20 DO schools I applied to and many MD schoosl too.
I took days to do my secondaries. Be careful. 10 good apps beat 30 shoddy ones.
texahn 09-12-2009, 06:36 PM a lot of people say its a waste of time and waste of money. I have 3 grad courses only. time is not an issue, neither is the money. and yes, 70 is the new 20! there are plenty of peps applying to 40+ schools, they just don't write on forums to takl about it
by the way.... the secondaries are nearly all the same, they all ask the SAME types questions in slightly different ways (stress situation, how do you fit in to thi sschool, tell us about yourself, why are you a good canidate, ohw wud you contribute to diversity, where do you see yourself. what makesyou special, blah blah)...so the secondaries do not actually take that long to fill out (45-60mins each) (except medical school in Duluth MN, that bitch had like 10+ essays). Overall, I have a bank of 15 short essays written and I can easily taylor them to each of the schools.
anyways keep in mind, I applied to 70 schools, but as of now, I only turned in 25 secondaries. if I start to get interviews, I obviously won't complete the other 50. also, I don't have LOR from MD or DO, so I will be filtered out from many of the 20 DO schools I applied to and many MD schoosl too.
i think this is still ridiculous at best. irrational at the worst.
apumic 09-12-2009, 06:53 PM a lot of people say its a waste of time and waste of money. I have 3 grad courses only. time is not an issue, neither is the money. and yes, 70 is the new 20! there are plenty of peps applying to 40+ schools, they just don't write on forums to takl about it
by the way.... the secondaries are nearly all the same, they all ask the SAME types questions in slightly different ways (stress situation, how do you fit in to thi sschool, tell us about yourself, why are you a good canidate, ohw wud you contribute to diversity, where do you see yourself. what makesyou special, blah blah)...so the secondaries do not actually take that long to fill out (45-60mins each) (except medical school in Duluth MN, that bitch had like 10+ essays). Overall, I have a bank of 15 short essays written and I can easily taylor them to each of the schools.
anyways keep in mind, I applied to 70 schools, but as of now, I only turned in 25 secondaries. if I start to get interviews, I obviously won't complete the other 50. also, I don't have LOR from MD or DO, so I will be filtered out from many of the 20 DO schools I applied to and many MD schoosl too.
This all seems pretty ridiculous to me, to be honest... Not to mention expensive and likely to hurt (not help) your chances. Secondaries and, especially, interviews require a lot of individual attention. Sure, schools may ask similar questions but it's the answers that matter. If you are able to submit the same basic secondary essay for every school's set of essay questions, I can pretty much guarantee you are writing very poor essays. USC couldn't care less why you're applying to UCLA (well... except for the rivalry, perhaps...), for instance. Fact is, they want to know why you're applying to their school and if your essays don't differentiate your applications between schools you are not only doing yourself a huge disservice but you're basically mocking the school as well, which will almost certainly ruin your chances. Unless you're a senator with an entire staff to fill out your secondaries and go to interviews for you, I really don't see any purpose in spreading yourself so thin! ...Especially considering how little those add'l schools could add to your chances even if you could get all those secondaries done properly! (And, as it was said, if the first 20+ schools reject you, the other 50 or so aren't going to want anything to do with you either!)
sustentacular 09-12-2009, 06:58 PM a lot of people say its a waste of time and waste of money. I have 3 grad courses only. time is not an issue, neither is the money. and yes, 70 is the new 20! there are plenty of peps applying to 40+ schools, they just don't write on forums to takl about it
by the way.... the secondaries are nearly all the same, they all ask the SAME types questions in slightly different ways (stress situation, how do you fit in to thi sschool, tell us about yourself, why are you a good canidate, ohw wud you contribute to diversity, where do you see yourself. what makesyou special, blah blah)...so the secondaries do not actually take that long to fill out (45-60mins each) (except medical school in Duluth MN, that bitch had like 10+ essays). Overall, I have a bank of 15 short essays written and I can easily taylor them to each of the schools.
anyways keep in mind, I applied to 70 schools, but as of now, I only turned in 25 secondaries. if I start to get interviews, I obviously won't complete the other 50. also, I don't have LOR from MD or DO, so I will be filtered out from many of the 20 DO schools I applied to and many MD schoosl too.
Why would you apply to the schools you know you'll get filtered out from for not having a physician LOR? I think you will get in somewhere, but have you thought about what happens if you don't? Now you have 70 schools that if you decide to apply to again you'll be a "reapplicant" which I've heard are scrutinized a little more in the review process.
Sillyshoes 09-12-2009, 07:22 PM Wow
Did you take into consideration the requirements for certain schools? 70 is quite a number. I hope you took into account schools that do not take many OOS applicants.
Bacchus 09-12-2009, 07:25 PM You can remove every DO school from your list except the "old" schools. That will save you a ton of travel expenses. But, I must say, 70 schools is ludicrous. You can send me a check for the amount instead.
Chuck's Right Foot 09-12-2009, 08:06 PM The problem is that the chances at each school aren't independent. So if you were to get in, you'd get in to a whole bunch of similar schools. And the schools that don't want you, aren't gonna interview you. So applying to that many schools will have a negligible effect on your chances of interviewing/acceptance.
I applied to 33 schools last cycle and completed over 95% of my apps. Albeit hindsight is 20/20, I could have been comfortable with fewer schools. Apply smartly.
JJMrK 09-12-2009, 09:12 PM I applied to 30 schools and feel like it's way too many. I cannot even begin to imagine applying to 70 schools.
brooklynblunder 09-12-2009, 09:46 PM wow i would have just retaken the MCAT
theloveprotein 09-12-2009, 09:53 PM oh i forgot to mention - i'm applying to the joint PhD programs for majority of the schools... i figure my stats are not so hot for PhD programs so I applied "broad"
Bacchus 09-12-2009, 09:55 PM Did you research the admissions process? You may be invited for MD only, but I dont see you getting many MD/PhD invites.
brooklynblunder 09-12-2009, 09:56 PM why not ****ing retake the damn mcat. for real. its cheaper, less demanding, and will give you a higher return. esp if you are applying md phd
ThaliaNox 09-13-2009, 01:05 PM OP, I remember you posting last winter. You mentioned an academic dismissal in your post. This is a very important piece of information you've left out this time. I agree with the majority that 70 schools is WAY too many, but you would have to apply to an above average number to compensate for those who will trash your application with little consideration due to the academic dismissal in your past.
Link to OP's previous post:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=604928
Count Chocula 09-13-2009, 01:24 PM OP, I remember you posting last winter. You mentioned an academic dismissal in your post. This is a very important piece of information you've left out this time. I agree with the majority that 70 schools is WAY too many, but you would have to apply to an above average number to compensate for those who will trash your application with little consideration due to the academic dismissal in your past.
Link to OP's previous post:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=604928
Damn, you just OWNED the OP.
70 schools is ****ing ridiculous-I applied to 6.
shiftingmirage 09-13-2009, 02:07 PM Previous post by the OP.
NO STUDY, just 3 practice exams and took the exam stoned (which probably helped because I was so calm) No lies! **** ya!
10/9/10 -29M - 3.95 SCI GPA
HELLL YAAA, although kinda of pissed because I konw I could of scored above 30! thank the lord anyways. love you all!
Interesting how your MCAT score changed.
:troll:
MansionMD 09-17-2009, 07:13 AM wow...gg, checkmate
flip26 09-17-2009, 07:31 AM wow...gg, checkmate
No kidding!
OP is a troll...move along, people.
theloveprotein 09-17-2009, 11:07 PM hahahaha i love internet communities........welcome to reality :)
starl3tte 09-17-2009, 11:11 PM a) too much money to burn or b) troll
theloveprotein 11-26-2009, 12:08 AM checkmate, eh?
11:25:09:::
3 MD PhD interviews OOS
1 MD interview OOS
J DUB 11-26-2009, 05:54 AM You should get in somewhere with those stats and applying to that many schools.....
Get over yourself....
applied to one school and got one acceptance...EDP!
I got da balls to take a chance on only one school!
Plus, I got alot more $ in my pockets.....;)
thethethe 11-26-2009, 08:18 AM will you have the energy to fill out 60ish secondaries?
rockaction 11-26-2009, 08:48 AM checkmate, eh?
11:25:09:::
3 MD PhD interviews OOS
1 MD interview OOS
when interview becomes "acceptance", then yes, checkmate.
Superman DO 11-26-2009, 09:18 AM Gosh, if you get any interviews, I hope you can remember all 70 schools when they ask you "So, what other schools have you applied too?"
J DUB 11-26-2009, 10:36 AM when interview becomes "acceptance", then yes, checkmate.
:laugh:
Untraditional 11-26-2009, 12:30 PM 70 schools!?
At the going rates that's going to cost around 7 or 8 grand.
I wish I had that much just laying around :( Imagine if everyone did this. They are going to have to set a limit on the number of apps you can send!
Good luck to you. Can you apply to 7 fewer schools and spot me $600 so I can afford to go to any interviews I get?
J DUB 11-26-2009, 12:32 PM 70 schools!?
At the going rates that's going to cost around 7 or 8 grand.
I wish I had that much just laying around :( Imagine if everyone did this. They are going to have to set a limit on the number of apps you can send!
Good luck to you. Can you apply to 7 fewer schools and spot me $600 so I can afford to go to any interviews I get?
just sell your plasma and sperm!! :laugh: :thumbup:
ezsanche 11-26-2009, 10:37 PM Applying to 70 schools because of a low mcat score? Makes more sense to just retake your mcat and increase it by 2 to 3 points at the very least. With a score of 30-32, you can definitely get into a decent school.
bannie22 11-26-2009, 10:53 PM i suggest applying to all 120+ schools anyway. there is no difference between 70 and 120, so you might as well do all of them. and u can go down in history with the most interviews and acceptances naturally. :D wouldnt that be cool!
Moose A Moose 11-27-2009, 02:15 PM he could probably afford it because of his family business..
:rolleyes:
theloveprotein 11-27-2009, 05:09 PM I filled out 30 secondaries and so far it's looking good, I only have 6 rejection letters. All of the current interview invites are OOS, so I'm assuming I'll get at least 2 more interviews from the handful of IL schools.
J DUB 11-28-2009, 03:53 AM i suggest applying to all 120+ schools anyway. there is no difference between 70 and 120, so you might as well do all of them. and u can go down in history with the most interviews and acceptances naturally. :D wouldnt that be cool!
Indeed!! :D
neuro raqs 11-28-2009, 05:11 AM Well your chances of spending a fortune are 100%
Why don't you apply to like 15-20 this upcoming cycle, see how you do. If you get in somewhere then you're done. If you don't, then you at least know that you'll need to apply to more, and you might be able to get feedback from adcoms to strengthen your application.
Poliscidoc 11-28-2009, 06:56 AM **** it go for broke.. If you dont get into a med school this year, abandon all hope
rockaction 11-28-2009, 07:51 AM I filled out 30 secondaries and so far it's looking good, I only have 6 rejection letters. All of the current interview invites are OOS, so I'm assuming I'll get at least 2 more interviews from the handful of IL schools.
so you whimped out? lame...
apumic 11-29-2009, 04:21 PM Why did we resurrect this thread? Oh... ok, over the OP's 5.7% interview rate. I gotcha. Not even an acceptance yet and already celebrating?
Wow... I wish I had that kind of money to blow!
OP's chances are no better at 70 schools than at 30....or 25... or 15, really, since, if the first 15 refuse him/her, so will the next 55 most likely!
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