randomusername,

That sounds like a great idea, however, I can't post to that wall since I'm not part of the AZCOM 2014 group. I'm thinking of calling MWU to see if they can give me the contact info of any of the current students with WICHE. Also, does Midwestern do any kind of a "second look" day where accepted students can tour the campus, sit in on a couple of classes, and ask questions related to their acceptance? Thanks for always being so helpful.

randomusername,

That sounds like a great idea, however, I can't post to that wall since I'm not part of the AZCOM 2014 group. I'm thinking of calling MWU to see if they can give me the contact info of any of the current students with WICHE. Also, does Midwestern do any kind of a "second look" day where accepted students can tour the campus, sit in on a couple of classes, and ask questions related to their acceptance? Thanks for always being so helpful.

It's an open group so you can join and post in there if you want (I believe we have people from 2011-2015 in that group), though it never hurts to just call the school as you've mentioned. To my knowledge, there is no official second-look day but it couldn't hurt to ask about getting one either. I'd be willing to bet they'd allow you to do some of those things at the very least.

randomusername,

That sounds like a great idea, however, I can't post to that wall since I'm not part of the AZCOM 2014 group. I'm thinking of calling MWU to see if they can give me the contact info of any of the current students with WICHE. Also, does Midwestern do any kind of a "second look" day where accepted students can tour the campus, sit in on a couple of classes, and ask questions related to their acceptance? Thanks for always being so helpful.


I doubt anything official like this is offered, but what's stopping you from just heading over to AZCOM, walking around campus, stumbling into a lecture or two, etc? And if you have further questions you can certainly drop by or just call admissions.

does anyone know how many people are accepted from the alternate list every year?

Well, I've learned about as much from "the source" as I can. I've also done research elsewhere including old SDN threads but was just wanting someone to share their experience. At any rate, thanks for your response!

Yeah, sorry I can't help. This is a case where you need to meet them in person when you get down there. Still, it sounds like it won't stop you from applying and you're just seeing how likely it is to get the scholarship.

I doubt anything official like this is offered, but what's stopping you from just heading over to AZCOM, walking around campus, stumbling into a lecture or two, etc? And if you have further questions you can certainly drop by or just call admissions.

Unless it's lab, you can sit in just about any class; the auditorium is big enough. Just download the map to the school and a MS1 block schedule and follow that. I wouldn't dress up formally or anything either; just check things out and have a good time.

It seems that a second look is more of a residency thing but these seem to be hit or miss as well. They're mainly for people to see if they fit and have no bearing on the final decision.

Anyhow, come on down if you want a look. It's a pretty open campus so there shouldn't be any problem.

anyone know what the rotations situation is looking like at this point? like which are available, if any are full, the like

does anyone know how many people are accepted from the alternate list every year?

I'd also like to know this.

Thanks in advance.

Also, assuming I can get an interview, once scheduled, is there a way to find out if earlier spots become available? Meaning if someone has decided to withdraw or cancel the interview?

I imagine the class is filling up. If you don't have an interview date yet you might be cutting it extremely close.

Did anyone get a call today from AZCOM concerning your acceptance? (Feb people).

I'd also like to know this.

Thanks in advance.

IMO something like this is too difficult to determine to give you a good idea of your shot off the waitlist. Take a look back in previous year's threads but to me it seems like it is incredibly highly variable. From experience last year, Touro-NV barely got through their accepted waitlist when normally they make it all the way through their high waitlist. LECOM-B was similar in that they barely moved through their waitlist.

It really depends on movement from other people, how early people drop a AZCOM acceptance, etc. Movement is going to vary so much that I don't imagine it'd be very helpful to you. Best advice is if you do wind up on the waitlist to stay incredibly active in updating them with relevant information and send a letter of intent. Don't bank on the waitlist moving, try to move yourself up the waitlist.

Did anyone get a call today from AZCOM concerning your acceptance? (Feb people).

Yeah, I got a call yesterday around noon time out east :) ....nice to know that the Accepted Student Checklist on my portal was really real haha.

Yeah, I got a call yesterday around noon time out east :) ....nice to know that the Accepted Student Checklist on my portal was really real haha.


Did she mention anything important? I wasn't home, but my parents couldn't remember much.

Did she mention anything important? I wasn't home, but my parents couldn't remember much.

The call was just to congratulate me on getting in and to remind me to agree to the matriculation agreement and pay my deposit and to send them my original transcripts. Nothing new....Congrats anyways!

Yea she just called to congratulate us

i know that we get a specific rotation assignment, but it says something like '3rd year rotation assignment'. is this only for the 3rd year? or does that just imply that the 4th year will be mostly us scheduling individual rotations on our own

My understanding is that 4th year is made up of a large majority of elective rotations which you are to schedule on your own. I'm sure the clinical department will help with some of it but you are going to be schedule away rotations, etc. for your specialty of choice so you'll largely be scheduling your own 4th year.

Hey guys. I have a question. I was accepted to AZCOM and already paid the 1000 deposit by 12/15/10. Is there another 1,000 I have to put down. For some reason I thought there was two of them and that the second one was due by March 15th.

Anybody know about this?

Hey guys. I have a question. I was accepted to AZCOM and already paid the 1000 deposit by 12/15/10. Is there another 1,000 I have to put down. For some reason I thought there was two of them and that the second one was due by March 15th.

Anybody know about this?

Unless things have changed, last year only one $1000 deposit was required.

Did anyone get a call today from AZCOM concerning your acceptance? (Feb people).

i had my interview on 2/25 and havent gotten a call yet, but i saw the accepted checklist on the website and emailed admissions about a question and they got back to me so unless ive been tricked i think im in! depending on what happens with western/COMP pomona, i might see some of you guys in the fall at AZCOM! good luck to the rest of you

Well, I have updated them with my MCAT scores...so lets see! :xf:

Assuming I get an interview, would they potentially ask me about how my senior year grades have been? They haven't been really good honestly!

I know that if I eventually end up getting accepted I will have to submit a final official transcript...I got a couple of C's in Bio classes this past quarter, but I'm trying to finish strong!

With relation to the interview, from what I understand, once one has been granted an interview...he/she is on equal playing field with all other applicants...and it just boils down to how well you interview, correct? Your academic stats have no bearing on the decision as your stats were evaluated in order to grant you a secondary and then an interview. Then the decision to reject/accept/waitlist is based on the interview remarks...is this all correct?

I'm not as qualified academically as some of those who are getting interviews so I just want to keep my expectations realistic.

Thanks for any help and many Congrats to those who were accepted! :)

i had my interview on 2/25 and havent gotten a call yet, but i saw the accepted checklist on the website and emailed admissions about a question and they got back to me so unless ive been tricked i think im in! depending on what happens with western/COMP pomona, i might see some of you guys in the fall at AZCOM! good luck to the rest of you

You're in. Getting a call from the administrators is more of the exception than the rule as they only call applicants to congratulate them sporadically.

Can any current students comment on the financial situation? The estimated expenses are supposedly up to $80k per year. Does this sound accurate if one is minimizing expenses wherever possible? (I am single and will have limited support from my parents.) Also, the lifetime limit on federal student loans is $224,000 which would apparently only last part of the way through the 3rd year at that rate. I have been applying for scholarships wherever I see them, but I regard those largely as a long shot. I'm from Nevada, which is a WICHE state, but apparently NV to AZ osteopathic students are ineligible (I know, right.) Do most people take out private loans on top of their federal loans, or do the internal (limited, need based) scholarships step in before that? I'm calling financial aid tomorrow about most of this, but I thought a student's perspective might be helpful as well.

Thanks in advance. :confused:

Has any recent accepted receive mail concerning choose rotations for 3rd/4th year?

Can any current students comment on the financial situation? The estimated expenses are supposedly up to $80k per year. Does this sound accurate if one is minimizing expenses wherever possible? (I am single and will have limited support from my parents.) Also, the lifetime limit on federal student loans is $224,000 which would apparently only last part of the way through the 3rd year at that rate. I have been applying for scholarships wherever I see them, but I regard those largely as a long shot. I'm from Nevada, which is a WICHE state, but apparently NV to AZ osteopathic students are ineligible (I know, right.) Do most people take out private loans on top of their federal loans, or do the internal (limited, need based) scholarships step in before that? I'm calling financial aid tomorrow about most of this, but I thought a student's perspective might be helpful as well.

Thanks in advance. :confused:

Haven't seen anything saying 80k, then again I'm put in as living on campus so I'll be at around 73k thus far. No support here either.

As far as the lifetime cap for stafford, its only for stafford. Stafford loans top out at (I believe) 20,500 a year :confused: The remainder is taken out in GradPLUS loans and do not count against that cap. Don't worry, you will have funding for your entire 4 years.

Can any current students comment on the financial situation? The estimated expenses are supposedly up to $80k per year. Does this sound accurate if one is minimizing expenses wherever possible? (I am single and will have limited support from my parents.) Also, the lifetime limit on federal student loans is $224,000 which would apparently only last part of the way through the 3rd year at that rate. I have been applying for scholarships wherever I see them, but I regard those largely as a long shot. I'm from Nevada, which is a WICHE state, but apparently NV to AZ osteopathic students are ineligible (I know, right.) Do most people take out private loans on top of their federal loans, or do the internal (limited, need based) scholarships step in before that? I'm calling financial aid tomorrow about most of this, but I thought a student's perspective might be helpful as well.

Thanks in advance. :confused:

$224k is the lifetime limit for Stafford loans (including those taken out during undergrad) but medical students actually qualify for larger annual Stafford awards than most other educational programs. Also, as Db mentioned, anything you borrow above the Stafford limit/year is made up for with GradPlus loans.

Here's the link to the loans table the school provides in case you're curious about annual limits and things of that nature:
http://www.midwestern.edu/Programs_and_Admission/Financial_Aid/Loans.html#staffordsub

Thanks for the info. I'll definitely be using Grad PLUS, as 22,000 isn't even close to enough. : / I thought that was part of the 224k limit. If not, then I'm fine. :laugh:

Has any recent accepted receive mail concerning choose rotations for 3rd/4th year?

I was accepted about 10 days ago and paid the deposit, but have yet to receive anything in the mail.

Has any recent accepted receive mail concerning choose rotations for 3rd/4th year?

I was accepted on 3/3 and I haven't gotten anything yet. Hopefully it comes soon!!!

I was accepted on 3/3 and I haven't gotten anything yet. Hopefully it comes soon!!!

Scratch that. Just checked the mail and the acceptance packet came today. Looks like they were mailed out 3/9. The packet had the OFFICIAL acceptance letter along with a clinical rotation packet with all the affiliated hospitals for each site as well as a paper to list your top three preferred sites.

Scratch that. Just checked the mail and the acceptance packet came today. Looks like they were mailed out 3/9. The packet had the OFFICIAL acceptance letter along with a clinical rotation packet with all the affiliated hospitals for each site as well as a paper to list your top three preferred sites.


Thanks for letting us know. I was able to get my 3rd year rotation site (1st choice) by sending an email to Dr. Speicher ahead of time before I even got the letter. Maybe if you live far away and can't wait, go for it.

Thanks for letting us know. I was able to get my 3rd year rotation site (1st choice) by sending an email to Dr. Speicher ahead of time before I even got the letter. Maybe if you live far away and can't wait, go for it.

Thats awesome!! Congrats on getting your first choice. If you don't mind me asking, what location was your first choice? How long did it take for Dr. Speicher to get back to you? Thank you in advance.

Thats awesome!! Congrats on getting your first choice. If you don't mind me asking, what location was your first choice? How long did it take for Dr. Speicher to get back to you? Thank you in advance.

I chose LA to be close to family. And I emailed him last weekend, so 3-4 days? Not so bad.

I chose LA to be close to family. And I emailed him last weekend, so 3-4 days? Not so bad.

That's great!! I'm really hoping for West Valley but it seems pretty popular and I'm worried it might be getting full. Oh well, gotta hope for the best.

That's great!! I'm really hoping for West Valley but it seems pretty popular and I'm worried it might be getting full. Oh well, gotta hope for the best.

I'd suggest picking West Valley #1 and East #2 then since there's lots of potential overlap between the two. I kind of doubt West is already full, but I highly doubt both West and East are already full (they're 160 spots, the class is ~250, and a lot of people are into the California sites which are something like 60 spots).

Anyone looking to get an off-campus apartment with some classmates? Send me a message. :)

Has anyone had any luck getting an interview after getting the "hold for interview" letter? I got one of these back in January and I am still waiting.

I'd suggest picking West Valley #1 and East #2 then since there's lots of potential overlap between the two. I kind of doubt West is already full, but I highly doubt both West and East are already full (they're 180 spots, the class is ~250, and a lot of people are into the California sites which are something like 50 spots).


hey there

I also was able to get my first choice (LA) by emailing the department in charge of clinical education. I see you stated that you would recommend picking west valley as #1 and east as #2. Are you saying that you feel these are the 2 strongest rotation sites? I chose LA because I think it's likely I will want to practice in Cali so I figured I might as well do my cores there. Do the LA rotations have a poorer reputation than the AZ sites? You can be honest-I just want to know what I may be getting into. My guess is I could still switch over to AZ if the consensus is that the AZ sites are of better quality than LA.

hey there

I also was able to get my first choice (LA) by emailing the department in charge of clinical education. I see you stated that you would recommend picking west valley as #1 and east as #2. Are you saying that you feel these are the 2 strongest rotation sites? I chose LA because I think it's likely I will want to practice in Cali so I figured I might as well do my cores there. Do the LA rotations have a poorer reputation than the AZ sites? You can be honest-I just want to know what I may be getting into. My guess is I could still switch over to AZ if the consensus is that the AZ sites are of better quality than LA.

He was saying if you want West Valley then list West #1 and East #2. I'm doing my rotations in LA as well.

Has anyone had any luck getting an interview after getting the "hold for interview" letter? I got one of these back in January and I am still waiting.

I was a pre-interview hold and just got accepted last week. I was placed on hold in October, sent an additional letter of recommendation in Feb. and received an interview invite the next week. I sent in a letter of intent two days after my interview stating how much I liked the school and how it is my number one choice and was accepted the next day. There is still hope!!!

I recall LA has the benefit of having an elective for 3rd year. For everyone in AZ, our only "elective" is the rural rotation as we can do it any specialty but it must be in a rural location of course.

I chose Tucson due to the guaranteed spot at U of A UMC for the IM ward based rotation, but West Valley may also get sent there. That said, West Valley is split between UMC and Tucson Medical Center (TMC), which is on the East side. WV must go down to Tucson for their ward based IM, at least for our year.

It kind of varies by your track. Also, by being in Tucson, I'm going to have to drive back to Glendale for each shelf and didactics. I can't really say if one region is better than another since I'm not there yet and more importantly, I'll only know one region and even then, I'll only know a handful of the rotations.

That said, when 4th year comes, it won't matter anymore, so just do the best you can. If you really can't decide, just pick where you want to live.

He was saying if you want West Valley then list West #1 and East #2.

Correctamundo.

Does LA sites have a good ward IM location?

I recall LA has the benefit of having an elective for 3rd year. For everyone in AZ, our only "elective" is the rural rotation as we can do it any specialty but it must be in a rural location of course.

I chose Tucson due to the guaranteed spot at U of A UMC for the IM ward based rotation, but West Valley may also get sent there. That said, West Valley is split between UMC and Tucson Medical Center (TMC), which is on the East side. WV must go down to Tucson for their ward based IM, at least for our year.

It kind of varies by your track. Also, by being in Tucson, I'm going to have to drive back to Glendale for each shelf and didactics. I can't really say if one region is better than another since I'm not there yet and more importantly, I'll only know one region and even then, I'll only know a handful of the rotations.

That said, when 4th year comes, it won't matter anymore, so just do the best you can. If you really can't decide, just pick where you want to live.

Anything available in Orange County?

Anything available in Orange County?


If you're just talking about rotations in general, here's the map listed in Flushot's post of the first page of this forum:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=110059803890777073793.00048d6d0b79e45800f57&t=h&z=5

If you're just talking about rotations in general, here's the map listed in Flushot's post of the first page of this forum:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=110059803890777073793.00048d6d0b79e45800f57&t=h&z=5

Thanks! :)

Sending out my second letter of intent tomorrow.

Wish me luck :xf:

Sending out my second letter of intent tomorrow.

Wish me luck :xf:

A second one? Well, good luck, but I don't know how much it would help.

What stage are you at in the application process? Waitlist? Pre-interview?

A second one? Well, good luck, but I don't know how much it would help.

What stage are you at in the application process? Waitlist? Pre-interview?

Pre-interview hold

My first letter was sent out in November, and now that the cycle is winding down I figure I have nothing to lose by seconding out a second letter 4 months later.

Pre-interview hold

My first letter was sent out in November, and now that the cycle is winding down I figure I have nothing to lose by seconding out a second letter 4 months later.


I see. The best case in this scenario would be to call them and update your status weekly to see if any changes have been made. If you want to be really proactive, call both admissions and the AZCOM phone number.

I believe Jim Walters is in general admissions and if you look in the previous thread around this time, people have spoken with him and gotten interviews several days later.

I see. The best case in this scenario would be to call them and update your status weekly to see if any changes have been made. If you want to be really proactive, call both admissions and the AZCOM phone number.

I believe Jim Walters is in general admissions and if you look in the previous thread around this time, people have spoken with him and gotten interviews several days later.

I've called admissions roughly once a month, but as you can see it hasn't done much. I'll give Jim Walters a call on Monday though. Thanks for the help Flushot :)

I've called admissions roughly once a month, but as you can see it hasn't done much. I'll give Jim Walters a call on Monday though. Thanks for the help Flushot :)

Sure, no problem.

I think the main thing about calling is you need a reason to call. In your case, you can call and confirm that your LoI has arrived and on the side, ask about your position on the pre-interview hold.

I suggested many reasons to call: you completed new course work and sent in a transcript (call to confirm its arrival) or you did new volunteer work and sent in a letter documenting service (call to confirm its arrival), etc. I noted that calling for the sake of calling doesn't stick out very much and may lead to them forgetting who you are.

Again, you have a reason now to call, but try your best to have a purpose for calling before asking about your status. The only other way I know that works really well when you have nothing to submit is just to show up in person. It's really hard for them to forget you if you come down here, but obviously not everyone can do this just in hopes of getting an interview.

Sure, no problem.

I think the main thing about calling is you need a reason to call. In your case, you can call and confirm that your LoI has arrived and on the side, ask about your position on the pre-interview hold.

I suggested many reasons to call: you completed new course work and sent in a transcript (call to confirm its arrival) or you did new volunteer work and sent in a letter documenting service (call to confirm its arrival), etc. I noted that calling for the sake of calling doesn't stick out very much and may lead to them forgetting who you are.

Again, you have a reason now to call, but try your best to have a purpose for calling before asking about your status. The only other way I know that works really well when you have nothing to submit is just to show up in person. It's really hard for them to forget you if you come down here, but obviously not everyone can do this just in hopes of getting an interview.

I'll hold off until Wednesday or Thursday then, to give the letter some time to arrive. :thumbup:

Edit: One more question. So you've heard of people showing up to the admissions office and getting interviews after their visit? I would be willing to take a trip to MWU, I just want to make sure it's worth the 6 hour drive haha Thanks again!

I'll hold off until Wednesday or Thursday then, to give the letter some time to arrive. :thumbup:

Edit: One more question. So you've heard of people showing up to the admissions office and getting interviews after their visit? I would be willing to take a trip to MWU, I just want to make sure it's worth the 6 hour drive haha Thanks again!

It does happen, but then again, this is mostly anecdotal. That said, being in the SMP at MWU, we were able to just stop by admissions whenever rather than call. I really believe that stopping by in person (after scheduling a meeting of course) is a huge bonus. It really shows your interest and dedication to the school.

If you can spare the time and money, definitely make a trip if you want a fast response from the school.

It does happen, but then again, this is mostly anecdotal. That said, being in the SMP at MWU, we were able to just stop by admissions whenever rather than call. I really believe that stopping by in person (after scheduling a meeting of course) is a huge bonus. It really shows your interest and dedication to the school.

If you can spare the time and money, definitely make a trip if you want a fast response from the school.

Thanks Flushot, I just emailed Dr. Walter about meeting this week.

I'll hold off until Wednesday or Thursday then, to give the letter some time to arrive. :thumbup:

Edit: One more question. So you've heard of people showing up to the admissions office and getting interviews after their visit? I would be willing to take a trip to MWU, I just want to make sure it's worth the 6 hour drive haha Thanks again!

I'm rooting for you Sinfest. I really hope they give you the interview. After reading your posts this app season, it's pretty obvious that you really want to go to AZCOM and have been persistant despite other acceptances - that should at least earn you an interview. :laugh:

Although I turned down my acceptance to AZCOM (mostly for location & cost reasons), I really loved the school and still wonder if I made the right decision.

Good luck!!:luck:

I'm rooting for you Sinfest. I really hope they give you the interview. After reading your posts this app season, it's pretty obvious that you really want to go to AZCOM and have been persistant despite other acceptances - that should at least earn you an interview. :laugh:

Although I turned down my acceptance to AZCOM (mostly for location & cost reasons), I really loved the school and still wonder if I made the right decision.

Good luck!!:luck:

Thanks seap! :D

DMU is a great school, I'm sure you won't regret your decision!

Thanks Flushot, I just emailed Dr. Walter about meeting this week.

Good luck on your meeting and definitely bring some general questions about the school as well. It'll sort of be like a pre-interview interview, as they say, but don't go all out with the dress code. Business casual should be fine.

Good luck on your meeting and definitely bring some general questions about the school as well. It'll sort of be like a pre-interview interview, as they say, but don't go all out with the dress code. Business casual should be fine.

That's the plan :)

If I end up getting an interview invite, I'm buying you a beer Flushot!

That's the plan :)

If I end up getting an interview invite, I'm buying you a beer Flushot!

Haha, I appreciate the offer.

If you want to talk more about the school, let me know when you're in town and we can meet on campus somewhere. We have lots of time off to study for boards but I wouldn't mind meeting some SDNers to help them with the school.

Just shoot me a PM if you want to meet. I live on campus so I'm available at most times.

Haha, I appreciate the offer.

If you want to talk more about the school, let me know when you're in town and we can meet on campus somewhere. We have lots of time off to study for boards but I wouldn't mind meeting some SDNers to help them with the school.

Just shoot me a PM if you want to meet. I live on campus so I'm available at most times.

I received a reply from Dr. Walter today which IMO seemed as if he was trying to save me a trip to AZ. Instead of meeting in person regarding my application, he gave me my current status and their plans regarding interviews in the near future via email. I was getting excited about visiting the school, but I guess that's not necessary. Pretty nice of him :)

You're awesome Flushot, thanks for the offer! I'll take you up on it if I end up interviewing.

For those of you that are in my position, he said they will begin sending out invites for May interviews in the coming weeks. ~70 of the interview spots will be given to those on the wait list. :xf:

Wow they're going to interview until May and they're pulling in 70 more people for interviews? Crazy. They're doing things way differently than last year! That's awesome, I hope you get in....good luck :D

Wow they're going to interview until May and they're pulling in 70 more people for interviews? Crazy. They're doing things way differently than last year! That's awesome, I hope you get in....good luck :D

Thank you :)

I am in the same boat as Sin. Got a pre interview hold back in Jan. I updated the school with a LOI (back in early Feb) stating some new DO shadowing I have been doing. I did not get the email that Sin got from Dr. Walters though, and it makes me worried. Maybe I am not one of the 70 ? :(

I have been out of school for almost 4 years so I dont have updated grades to send them. I can not think of another reason to send an email or call them besides saying "what is my status :)"

any thoughts will be much appreciated!

I am in the same boat as Sin. Got a pre interview hold back in Jan. I updated the school with a LOI (back in early Feb) stating some new DO shadowing I have been doing. I did not get the email that Sin got from Dr. Walters though, and it makes me worried. Maybe I am not one of the 70 ? :(


I only received that email because I contacted him first. Don't worry :)

I only received that email because I contacted him first. Don't worry :)



ahh ok :) thanks for the info. im thinking then, maybe i should contact him also. get my name in his head, you know?? lol

@ Sinfest. That's good news! I'm stoked about AZCOM and have been waiting for an interview forever just like you. Maybe if we both cross our fingers it will work better

I received a PM asking about how AZCOM deals with boards studying. Here's what is official:

Starting Spring quarter of your second year, you have 2 less classes and Path and Pharm are also reduced by 1 hour. The first half of the quarter will be Intro to Clinical Medicine (ICM) with two exams and that class will end. The second half will be a faculty led board review course.

Students are required to take a mock USMLE (not COMLEX) exam prior to the start of this board review course. At the end of the course, we are required to take a mock COMLEX exam in order to pass (the class is pass/fail). Failure to pass this class will prevent you from getting approved to take the COMLEX, as far as I know.

Kaplan Q bank is provided for all students, but many students have supplemented this with USMLE World and DIT.

The quarter still ends in typical fashion, so there is no "extra" vacation time per se to study for the boards. We are supposed to heavily integrate boards into our classes for the remainder of our time here.

Also, Path and Pharm have cumulative final exams from all 3 quarters, thus boards studying and reviewing all the material is kind of required in a way.

That's the official stuff. This may change when 2014 moves into position, but I do remember in the past that AZCOM did do screening tests for the COMLEX and it seems like that has not changed. There was a debate on whether or not it is a good idea, but I like it. I'd rather fail a mock exam than the real deal if it came down to that, so it is good that they do want to make sure everyone can demonstrate some ability before going in.

Sinfest-I wish you luck in getting an interview at AZCOM. You are clearly doing everything you can, unfortunately I have learned that sometimes no matter how hard you try, a particular school will choose not to pursue you as a candidate.

The whole process is so odd. This should illustrate how unpredictable all of this is:

I was interviewed back in Nov at Touro-CA (where you were accepted) and I was high-waitlisted. Meanwhile, after receiving my application in late Sept, AZCOM almost immediately responded with a letter telling me that I had been placed on a pre-interview hold. I had totally written them off at this point.

Then last month AZCOM contacts me for an interview invite out of the blue. I went to the interview and was "fast track accepted". Apparently AZCOM will accept some applicants almost automatically after interviewing them "fast-tracking", and for some reason they decided to place me in this category.

So Touro waitlists me, AZCOM first waitlists me (suggesting they had some interest but not a ton) and then once I interview, all of the sudden I am instantly accepted.

Don't get me wrong, I am thrilled with how it turned out, but it just shows how strange and inconsistent all of this is. Good luck man. If it doesn't work out at AZCOM, Touor-CA is a great school.

May I ask, why are you so set on AZCOM?

Just an FYI to those of you out there interested in pediatrics and banking on having Phoenix Children's as a potential rotation site- I wouldn't bank on it too much. We've just received an email from the dean about PC focusing too much of their efforts on the U of A and Creighton students (something proselytized to force us from some sites and into others for awhile and finally coming to fruition) and us trying to establish a relationship with Cardon Children's Medical Center in Mesa to counter this.

Edit: I just want to clarify that this still IS an available rotation site but wouldn't be surprised to have it dropped or the number of students sent there restricted if the CCMC site pans out.

hey all. just put down my deposit im officially a member of the class of 2015! good luck to the rest of you!

Just an FYI to those of you out there interested in pediatrics and banking on having Phoenix Children's as a potential rotation site- I wouldn't bank on it too much. We've just received an email from the dean about PC focusing too much of their efforts on the U of A and Creighton students (something proselytized to force us from some sites and into others for awhile and finally coming to fruition) and us trying to establish a relationship with Cardon Children's Medical Center in Mesa to counter this.

Edit: I just want to clarify that this still IS an available rotation site but wouldn't be surprised to have it dropped or the number of students sent there restricted if the CCMC site pans out.

Do you happen to know which rotation site this was on (East or West valley)?

Do you happen to know which rotation site this was on (East or West valley)?

Neither, it's a ward site. I will also point out that there is ward-peds in California and Oklahoma available also, but I know for some people interested in peds in my class, Phoenix Children's was a big draw.

Does anyone know if there is an IM-ward in LA?

Just a few questions for those in a position to answer them:

1.) With UofA-Phx making a name for itself in the valley are the ward-based rotations giving us less of their time to focus on the allopathic students?

2.) I remember from my interview that some of the lecture halls didn't have wifi because the professors said that it distracted the students but that it may change in the near future. What's the scoop here?

3.) When can we expect a final match list for the class of 2011 to be published? (The google map match list is nice but I'd like to see an actual list with additional information for this years graduates if possible.)

As always, thanks to those of you who make the time to help out your incoming classmates and point us in the right direction.

Just a few questions for those in a position to answer them:

1.) With UofA-Phx making a name for itself in the valley are the ward-based rotations giving us less of their time to focus on the allopathic students?

2.) I remember from my interview that some of the lecture halls didn't have wifi because the professors said that it distracted the students but that it may change in the near future. What's the scoop here?

3.) When can we expect a final match list for the class of 2011 to be published? (The google map match list is nice but I'd like to see an actual list with additional information for this years graduates if possible.)

As always, thanks to those of you who make the time to help out your incoming classmates and point us in the right direction.

1. You have remember that this next year will be their first class that has rotations. Unless they are shelling out tons of money for spots, I can't see it being a problem anytime soon. Even then, there are only 45 students, so there will be room to go around. That said, I really have no idea.

2. Wifi is currently available in the main Auditoriums and from what I know has no intention of going away. If they do remove it for some infernal reason, I'm sure it will be brought up by student council from all the schools, not just AZCOM.

3. I spoke with Dr. Spiecher last week and he said it will be available roughly 2 weeks from tomorrow or possibly earlier. I do believe it will be in that Google maps format like before for those who wish to add themselves to that. They will release a PDF listing where and what as usual. When that happens, one of us can post it when we get the email.

Flushot, thanks for your reply. However UofA-Phx will be graduating their first class in May so that means they've had students rotating for 2 years. But the simple fact that you haven't heard of any problems bodes well for those of us who will be matriculating this year. Again, thanks!

So how soon after submitting your choices for rotation locations did you guys receive confirmation of your site? I started emailing two or three weeks ago with my selections (before I got the official paperwork), and then just last week faxed in the official selection form with the same information I was including in my emails. No responses from anything yet. I've been meaning to pay my matriculation deposit, but would really like confirmation of my site in writing first.

So how soon after submitting your choices for rotation locations did you guys receive confirmation of your site? I started emailing two or three weeks ago with my selections (before I got the official paperwork), and then just last week faxed in the official selection form with the same information I was including in my emails. No responses from anything yet. I've been meaning to pay my matriculation deposit, but would really like confirmation of my site in writing first.

That's strange. For me, it took 4 days. I was accepted, I think, on Wednesday (3/3), then I sent an email to Dr. Speicher on Sunday, then received a reply back from his secretary confirming my rotation choice the following Thursday.

Best suggestion is to just call Speicher's office and confirm receipt of your choices because his office has had issues with overlooking submissions at times when they're receiving a lot of them in a variety of formats and when other stuff on-campus involving current students is going on.

Edit: I had no clue the track spins were going on presently, as Flushot suggests below, wait awhile before trying to contact his office.

Flushot, thanks for your reply. However UofA-Phx will be graduating their first class in May so that means they've had students rotating for 2 years. But the simple fact that you haven't heard of any problems bodes well for those of us who will be matriculating this year. Again, thanks!


Huh, for some reason, I believed that 2013 was their first class. Oh well, not sure why I believed this.

I don't know how complicated the WV or EV situation is since I am in Tucson for the next year and also the Phoenix Children's email didn't get sent to 2013 since most of the people who wanted to go there are already set to go. Like I said earlier, things change all the time, especially by year. 2014 will have new problems and opportunities that we won't have. It's just how things go.

So, yeah, UoA-Phx could becoming important in taking spots, but again, who knows what each year brings.

I would also like to note that 3rd years are still currently doing their spins for 4th year tracks and Dr. Spiecher also has to collect the match results and data to present to the classes. They're flooded right now, so it might be best to hold off on contacting them specifically.

Neither, it's a ward site. I will also point out that there is ward-peds in California and Oklahoma available also, but I know for some people interested in peds in my class, Phoenix Children's was a big draw.

I might be the only one who doesn't understand this but does that mean it would have been availible only for elective rotation?

ahh ok :) thanks for the info. im thinking then, maybe i should contact him also. get my name in his head, you know?? lol

No Problem. Good luck!

@ Sinfest. That's good news! I'm stoked about AZCOM and have been waiting for an interview forever just like you. Maybe if we both cross our fingers it will work better

Let's hope so! :)

Sinfest-I wish you luck in getting an interview at AZCOM. You are clearly doing everything you can, unfortunately I have learned that sometimes no matter how hard you try, a particular school will choose not to pursue you as a candidate.

The whole process is so odd.
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May I ask, why are you so set on AZCOM?

Thanks theone! Where do you plan on attending?

I completely agree. The app process involves a bit of random luck...

I think I explained why I'm so set on AZCOM earlier in this thread. It basically has to do with their solid curriculum (and board scores which show this), great clinical rotation spots (including spots in CA!), modern and nice facilities, relatively close proximity to family, friends that are attending MWU, the fact that it's not located in a crime-ridden city (Vallejo), etc.

I might be the only one who doesn't understand this but does that mean it would have been availible only for elective rotation?

The established ward rotations AZCOM has are the ones you apply for through department chairs (aside from IM, everybody does ward-IM) in order to rotate there instead of with a preceptor.

Hi all!
I'm new to this thread, but I have been browsing this forum off and on during these past couple of weeks and found it informative. I've been super busy with school and work so I didn't get an opportunity to come on earlier.

However, I am going to be interviewing next month! I am super excited since I absolutely love the school and the location. :love: I'm originally from SoCal, but we used to be frequent visitors to the area.

Was wondering, I think I had read a while back that there was the option to stay with a current student if you need a place to do so overnight, does that still exist? If not, how is the Ramada in Glendale, I heard they give students discounts.

I'm most likely going to be flying into Phoenix...have most of you taken a cab to the school? The interview starts at 07:45, so I want to be there pretty early.

To all those waiting, I'll keep my fingers crossed for you :xf:

Wishing you all good luck! :luck:

I received a reply from Dr. Walter today which IMO seemed as if he was trying to save me a trip to AZ. Instead of meeting in person regarding my application, he gave me my current status and their plans regarding interviews in the near future via email. I was getting excited about visiting the school, but I guess that's not necessary. Pretty nice of him :)

You're awesome Flushot, thanks for the offer! I'll take you up on it if I end up interviewing.

For those of you that are in my position, he said they will begin sending out invites for May interviews in the coming weeks. ~70 of the interview spots will be given to those on the wait list. :xf:

Yeah I think visiting a school pre-interview would generally have little weight unless you get real lucky and happen to make the right impression on the right person. Even then that one person still has to go out of his/her way to push your app and convince the committee why they're doing so. There are just too many applicants.

That's awesome to hear about May interviews! For some reason I was convinced interviews for OOS D.O. schools always ended by April 1st. I've been on pre-interview hold since January and had kind of given up. Maybe we'll hear something soon! :luck:

I was wondering what the car situation is like for AZCOM/Glendale (for 1st/2nd year). Like, is having a car absolutely required?

Are the on campus housing still available (this late)? Are apartments close-by? Is there a grocery store nearby or on campus meal plans? Near-by food chains?

Thank you very much.

I was wondering what the car situation is like for AZCOM/Glendale (for 1st/2nd year). Like, is having a car absolutely required?

Are the on campus housing still available (this late)? Are apartments close-by? Is there a grocery store nearby or on campus meal plans? Near-by food chains?

Thank you very much.


From all I have read/heard, you really need a car. Obviously it's possible to survive anywhere without a car, but Phoenix isn't one of those cities like NY where you can easily get by without one.

The established ward rotations AZCOM has are the ones you apply for through department chairs (aside from IM, everybody does ward-IM) in order to rotate there instead of with a preceptor.

Oh Okay! So this means that we would jsut lose it as a ward based option -Thanks!

I was wondering what the car situation is like for AZCOM/Glendale (for 1st/2nd year). Like, is having a car absolutely required?

Are the on campus housing still available (this late)? Are apartments close-by? Is there a grocery store nearby or on campus meal plans? Near-by food chains?

Thank you very much.

You can "manage" without a car if you have to, but you'll be at the mercy of the study schedules of anybody you need to get a ride from.

Technically, the housing application is closed and assignments have gone out (at least for current students), but one of my friends was admitted mid-summer and managed to acquire an apartment on-campus before the school year started. I think it just requires a bit more leg-work on your part now (you'll have to handle it through the apartment manager instead of the portal I'm guessing) and if there is availability, your pickings will be slimmer.

Yes, there are nice apartments just across the street and several complexes within a few miles of campus.

There are two grocery stores (across the street from one another) <.5 miles from campus, there are no meal plans (the cafeteria isn't much like a college cafeteria aside from the fact that there's food and it's on campus) but you can keep up to $2000 on your ID that can be used in the cafeteria for breakfast, lunch, snacks, etc. and I suppose functions in substitute of a meal plan if you just really want to eat there and don't want to carry cash or a card around.

There are places to eat within walking distance of campus also, but there are even more within 5 minutes of campus (driving) along Bell Road.

Is AZCOM still interviewing?

I interviewed back in December. I have heard nothing since. I guess I should have been calling or something, but I kinda thought they would tell me when they were ready. I interviewed in Phoenix as well as Tucson and Phoenix already had their day when we all knew one way or the other (I was rejected) but why hasn't Tucson sent anything at all? Is there still a chance? Does anyone know anything helpful? Should I call or send an email or letter- to who?:confused:

I interviewed back in December. I have heard nothing since. I guess I should have been calling or something, but I kinda thought they would tell me when they were ready. I interviewed in Phoenix as well as Tucson and Phoenix already had their day when we all knew one way or the other (I was rejected) but why hasn't Tucson sent anything at all? Is there still a chance? Does anyone know anything helpful? Should I call or send an email or letter- to who?:confused:

I can only imagine that you meant to post this in the University of Arizona thread but to answer you question, UofA Tucson will send out their rejection/waitlist letters the first week of April.

You're right. I have no idea what I'm doing here. I say AZ and automatically thought U of A.
Sorry! But thanks for the info.

Is AZCOM still interviewing?

All the way through early-May I believe.

You can "manage" without a car if you have to, but you'll be at the mercy of the study schedules of anybody you need to get a ride from.

Technically, the housing application is closed and assignments have gone out (at least for current students), but one of my friends was admitted mid-summer and managed to acquire an apartment on-campus before the school year started. I think it just requires a bit more leg-work on your part now (you'll have to handle it through the apartment manager instead of the portal I'm guessing) and if there is availability, your pickings will be slimmer.

Yes, there are nice apartments just across the street and several complexes within a few miles of campus.

There are two grocery stores (across the street from one another) <.5 miles from campus, there are no meal plans (the cafeteria isn't much like a college cafeteria aside from the fact that there's food and it's on campus) but you can keep up to $2000 on your ID that can be used in the cafeteria for breakfast, lunch, snacks, etc. and I suppose functions in substitute of a meal plan if you just really want to eat there and don't want to carry cash or a card around.

There are places to eat within walking distance of campus also, but there are even more within 5 minutes of campus (driving) along Bell Road.


Thank you for your input. I will give on-campus housing a call to see the situation.

Also, how much does a one-bedroom off-campus apartment cost in Glendale on average? (perferably closest to campus). Also, how's parking on campus or off campus in the apartment?

Thank you for your input. I will give on-campus housing a call to see the situation.

Also, how much does a one-bedroom off-campus apartment cost in Glendale on average? (perferably closest to campus). Also, how's parking on campus or off campus in the apartment?

Eh, I'm not horribly sure as to how much a one-bedroom off-campus costs anymore, but it seems like when I was looking into them around this time last year, most of them were ~$700-800. The two apartment complexes closest to campus are called San Prado and San Lagos if you want to look into them.

Parking for on-campus residents is a non-issue. You park your car in the housing complex portion of campus and you're good to go. Off-campus resident parking is a non-issue as far as capacity goes, granted, there are plenty of people vying to get into parking spots on-campus so it might take you awhile to get to one at times but you'll find one.

Eh, I'm not horribly sure as to how much a one-bedroom off-campus costs anymore, but it seems like when I was looking into them around this time last year, most of them were ~$700-800. The two apartment complexes closest to campus are called San Prado and San Lagos if you want to look into them.

Parking for on-campus residents is a non-issue. You park your car in the housing complex portion of campus and you're good to go. Off-campus resident parking is a non-issue as far as capacity goes, granted, there are plenty of people vying to get into parking spots on-campus so it might take you awhile to get to one at times but you'll find one.


Thank you. I will look into them.

Just a quick question, is AZCOM on Spring Break at the moment?

Thank you. I will look into them.

Just a quick question, is AZCOM on Spring Break at the moment?

Nope, ours was a few weeks ago.

Nope, ours was a few weeks ago.

Awesome, thank you for being helpful throughout. I've decided to matriculated here over Western (after some heavy debates) - time to get out of the CA bubble :)

Does anyone know it the health insurance provided by AZCOM covers dental?

Does anyone know it the health insurance provided by AZCOM covers dental?

You have the option of picking up additional dental coverage.

Don't forget you can waive your health insurance requirement if you're under your parents' plan. That's what I did.

And yes, the dental is a separate add-on to the Aetna plan.

Hey all,

Just a reminder to those of you who have been accepted recently - join the AZCOM 2015 facebook group! Tell us about yourselves on the discussions tab... it has been interesting to get to know some of you before class starts. Everyone so far is surprisingly outdoorsy/athletic, no musicians yet though.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=158051064214073

There is also some information on places to rent, realtors, etc.

I'm looking to justify the purchase of an iPad 2... Does anyone know anything in regards to whether or not AZCOM's required books and supplemental readings are available in a digital format? Thanks!

I'm looking to justify the purchase of an iPad 2... Does anyone know anything in regards to whether or not AZCOM's required books and supplemental readings are available in a digital format? Thanks!

Honestly, the vast majority of classes all you need are the lecture notes (provided in .pdf or .ppt, 90% are .pdf) and Wikipedia. There are a number of the required texts (for us at least, they may change for 2015) available digitally though. There used to be a list in the 2014 Facebook group but it seems to have disappeared with the user that posted it...

I'm looking to justify the purchase of an iPad 2... Does anyone know anything in regards to whether or not AZCOM's required books and supplemental readings are available in a digital format? Thanks!


lol i bought one already with this very purpose in mind! make sure you get a good stylus to annotate the notes with. i got the Boxwave from Amazon, and am quite impressed.

Anybody able to find a 2011 match list? I know it rarely means anything but the MDs have there's up! Are the AOA match lists published later or what?

Can anyone comment on the overall quality of the rotations at AZCOM.

I believe they are primarily preceptor-based, which I honestly don't know whether that is a good thing or not.

I would also like to hear specifically about the quality of the LA rotation sites. Thanks.

I'm looking to justify the purchase of an iPad 2... Does anyone know anything in regards to whether or not AZCOM's required books and supplemental readings are available in a digital format? Thanks!

Like Random said, you won't really need most of the books (the one book I used most was my Netter's). That being said, some of the books have been passed down as ebooks. The only problem is, assuming the iPad is like a Macbook, I had to download a .Chm program to open many of them and I'm not sure iPad has a program for that. However, it's not like you'll be reading the books in class, so as long as you have a PC at home, you'll be ok.

Anybody able to find a 2011 match list? I know it rarely means anything but the MDs have there's up! Are the AOA match lists published later or what?

Speicher's working on it. I don't know when the list will be available, but as previously mentioned by Flushot, rest assured it'll show up once it is.

Can anyone comment on the overall quality of the rotations at AZCOM.

I believe they are primarily preceptor-based, which I honestly don't know whether that is a good thing or not.

I would also like to hear specifically about the quality of the LA rotation sites. Thanks.

Unfortunately, MS3s and MS4s don't really participate much on here nor are there a bunch of them running around on campus, so the best I can give is hearsay. The hearsay is: I haven't heard anything negative about any of the sites to suggest you shouldn't go there. Sure there are some preceptors that the school has to drop here and there (yes, they're mostly preceptor-based which has pros and cons just like ward-based does), but from the sounds of it the school does in fact deal with that when needed, which isn't often. As for LA, it's all the same hearsay as mentioned above. My class had web-meetings with regional liaisons when we were picking our regions and even after all of those chats, LA and Turlock/Modesto (and East and West Valley) had no trouble whatsoever filling up.

Speicher's working on it. I don't know when the list will be available, but as previously mentioned by Flushot, rest assured it'll show up once it is.

Thanks dude.

Another quick question since we already picked third year rotations, how does selecting fourth year rotations work? Any chance we can do all of those in AZ?

Thanks dude.

Another quick question since we already picked third year rotations, how does selecting fourth year rotations work? Any chance we can do all of those in AZ?

I believe your 4th year core rotations are done in your region and the other 20+ weeks are entirely up to you and where you want to rotate. So if you wanted to stay in Arizona all of 4th year, it likely won't be any issue whatsoever.

When are you financial aid usually disburse?

I believe your 4th year core rotations are done in your region and the other 20+ weeks are entirely up to you and where you want to rotate. So if you wanted to stay in Arizona all of 4th year, it likely won't be any issue whatsoever.

That's pretty cool that they give you that time to do audition rotations and stuff. Hopefully scheduling those won't be too hard. Pretty set on EM, just hoping I can do it in a place that'll stress me (in a good way) and at the same time prepare me for whatever life throws my way. Do you have any idea what you're leaning towards?

When are you financial aid usually disburse?
About 1-2 weeks after the quarter actually starts. Here's when our refund dates were for this year:
http://www.midwestern.edu/Programs_and_Admission/Financial_Aid/Accounts_Receivable/Refund_Dates_Glendale.html


Do you have any idea what you're leaning towards?

Nah, I just know I don't want to do psych or surgery.

That's pretty cool that they give you that time to do audition rotations and stuff. Hopefully scheduling those won't be too hard. Pretty set on EM, just hoping I can do it in a place that'll stress me (in a good way) and at the same time prepare me for whatever life throws my way. Do you have any idea what you're leaning towards?


You may already know this, but all schools (as far as I know) give you the majority of year 4 to do your elective (audition) rotations. You usually have just a few core rotations left for year 4 but the rest can be spent anywhere you want, doing anything you want.

You may already know this, but all schools (as far as I know) give you the majority of year 4 to do your elective (audition) rotations. You usually have just a few core rotations left for year 4 but the rest can be spent anywhere you want, doing anything you want.

Honestly, I was surprised to hear that schools do this but I guess I was just misinformed for a long time. I remember when I was applying, everyone talked about how DMU is one of the better schools for this purpose, as if other schools don't leave much time for audition rotations. I didn't really know what was true and what wasn't back then. But I'm happy to hear that going to AZCOM won't keep me from this. There are quite a few places I'd love to check out if they'll have me during my fourth year.

I have two friends who are moving out of the state for their 4th year. They're coming back when graduation hits. So, if you get in the paperwork on time, you don't have to be anywhere near the state or in the system for 4th year, even for the cores. I could be wrong about the core part since that's what they told me, but it seems it is possible.


It does seem like there are a lot of questions about the quality of 3rd and 4th year. I love posting on SDN and keeping people up to date, so I will undoubtedly keep posting next year. If 2015 people keep stopping by, I'm certain you'll hear a post or two about how things are going.

Anyone else getting the cold shoulder from Dr. Speicher? It's been well over a week since I've submitted my rotation preferences and he hasn't answered my e-mails/returned my calls (and no I haven't been harassing). I hope this isn't a preview of what we'll be dealing with as students here :(.

Anyone else getting the cold shoulder from Dr. Speicher? It's been well over a week since I've submitted my rotation preferences and he hasn't answered my e-mails/returned my calls (and no I haven't been harassing). I hope this isn't a preview of what we'll be dealing with as students here :(.

The best way seems to be calling to confirm if he has received your email.

Anyone else getting the cold shoulder from Dr. Speicher? It's been well over a week since I've submitted my rotation preferences and he hasn't answered my e-mails/returned my calls (and no I haven't been harassing). I hope this isn't a preview of what we'll be dealing with as students here :(.


It took almost 2 weeks for him to get back to me and I made several phone calls and 2 emails. He did eventually get back to me though and secured my first choice for rotations (LA). I honestly don't blame him for the delay. He must be getting FLOODED with phone calls and emails from recently accepted students. I'm sure he will get back to you, it might just take a bit.

Anyone else getting the cold shoulder from Dr. Speicher? It's been well over a week since I've submitted my rotation preferences and he hasn't answered my e-mails/returned my calls (and no I haven't been harassing). I hope this isn't a preview of what we'll be dealing with as students here :(.

This has been discussed recently but in his defense for right now, there is a lot going on (2nd year tracks [the actual layout of their rotations] to deal with, the match material to compile, interviews still ongoing, and a ton of 2015ers trying to send in their requests). Just sit tight and if you haven't heard back from him in another week or two, try contacting him again.

I think he's mostly dealing with current 3rd years trying to figure out their 4th year, not to mention dealing with us 2nd years for next year. Just wait a week or two and give him or his office a call.

Speaking of 3rd year rotations, I just got assigned to my 1st choice: West Valley!!! Sent my rotation preferences off two weeks ago. There were several other names attached to the email I received so they might be beginning to go out today.

Speaking of 3rd year rotations, I just got assigned to my 1st choice: West Valley!!! Sent my rotation preferences off two weeks ago. There were several other names attached to the email I received so they might be beginning to go out today.

Indeed they are. I finally got confirmation to my #1 as well: TUCSON!!! :love:Any SDNers spending 2013-14 in the Dirty T with me?

Update: I guess I complained too soon. 1st choice location secured! Whooo :thumbup:

Update: I guess I complained too soon. 1st choice location secured! Whooo :thumbup:

where ya goin??

where ya goin??

Cali grown so I gotta go to LA!

Hi All!

I am wondering if anyone knows about how full the upcoming entering class is? I had an interview this week but had to reschedule for April. I am wondering if there will still be spots open?

Thanks!
El

Hi All!

I am wondering if anyone knows about how full the upcoming entering class is? I had an interview this week but had to reschedule for April. I am wondering if there will still be spots open?

Thanks!
El

I have no idea how full the class is, but if they're still willing to interview you in April, they probably like you :) Good luck!

Hi All!

I am wondering if anyone knows about how full the upcoming entering class is? I had an interview this week but had to reschedule for April. I am wondering if there will still be spots open?

Thanks!
El

Even if the class is full, which I bet it isn't since they seem to try and fill it a little at a time, there will be many accepted applicants that drop their acceptance this summer when they get off of other school waitlists... Having an interview this late won't hurt you too much I think.

For those of you wondering about projected tuition costs for this upcoming school year, it will reflect only a "nominal" increase to $50,129...

For those of you wondering about projected tuition costs for this upcoming school year, it will reflect only a "nominal" increase to $50,129...
Is that just tuition or does that include fees?

Is that just tuition or does that include fees?

Nope. Just tuition.

For those of you wondering about projected tuition costs for this upcoming school year, it will reflect only a "nominal" increase to $50,129...

Although this is kind of standard (~$4-5k increase per year), it's been a major factor dragging AZCOM down. No one is really happy about it and it should play a factor on whether or not you want to come here.

That said, think hard about the years ahead and be smart about spending. I think it is insane that students are getting married during these years and even worse having children, even if there is an extra source of income. If you already have these costs, do what you can, but try your best to live way below your means for a few years and it'll be paid off before you know it.

For example, I have no couch, TV, dresser or table (beyond my desk of course) in my studio. I also have no plan on getting anything of the sort in the next 7 years. I don't need it and will not need it in residency either. I still laugh when I have a friend or classmate come over to see the vast emptiness of my place :laugh:

EDIT - I'd like to add that even though a lot of it is kind of a drop in the bucket in terms of cost, it's more about the mentality. I don't need new gadgets (ex. iPad) or furniture. I don't need to buy or even rent a house anytime in the next 10 years. I can live like a poor student even as an attending with no problem and I think this is what you need to get used to if you hope to pay off the debt in 3 years or so.

Although this is kind of standard (~$4-5k increase per year), it's been a major factor dragging AZCOM down. No one is really happy about it and it should play a factor on whether or not you want to come here.

That said, think hard about the years ahead and be smart about spending. I think it is insane that students are getting married during these years and even worse having children, even if there is an extra source of income. If you already have these costs, do what you can, but try your best to live way below your means for a few years and it'll be paid off before you know it.

For example, I have no couch, TV, dresser or table (beyond my desk of course) in my studio. I also have no plan on getting anything of the sort in the next 7 years. I don't need it and will not need it in residency either. I still laugh when I have a friend or classmate come over to see the vast emptiness of my place :laugh:

EDIT - I'd like to add that even though a lot of it is kind of a drop in the bucket in terms of cost, it's more about the mentality. I don't need new gadgets (ex. iPad) or furniture. I don't need to buy or even rent a house anytime in the next 10 years. I can live like a poor student even as an attending with no problem and I think this is what you need to get used to if you hope to pay off the debt in 3 years or so.


Wow, I think you might be going a bit overboard here. We're not in a buddhist monastery here; we're in an expensive medical school. When I moved here, I perused Craigslist and got a bed, dresser, TV, desk, bookshelf and endtable from a guy for $100. Living cheaply does not mean you have to deprive yourself of a cozy standard of living. No, I don't own a Porche or a beemer like some people who live here do, but I'd like to think that I live comfortably. And no, I don't take out the maximum in student loans.

Be careful telling people that you think it's "insane" to get married or have kids in med school. Sometimes love and family is a bit more important than getting an A on an anatomy exam.

With that said, tuition here blows. Especially for people who want to go into primary care. It definitely is something to consider if you hold mulitple acceptances.

Wow, I think you might be going a bit overboard here. We're not in a buddhist monastery here; we're in an expensive medical school. When I moved here, I perused Craigslist and got a bed, dresser, TV, desk, bookshelf and endtable from a guy for $100. Living cheaply does not mean you have to deprive yourself of a cozy standard of living. No, I don't own a Porche or a beemer like some people who live here do, but I'd like to think that I live comfortably. And no, I don't take out the maximum in student loans.

Be careful telling people that you think it's "insane" to get married or have kids in med school. Sometimes love and family is a bit more important than getting an A on an anatomy exam.

With that said, tuition here blows. Especially for people who want to go into primary care. It definitely is something to consider if you hold mulitple acceptances.

Yeah I went a little overboard with my living conditions. I do stand by it though; I could live like this for years and it would be no problem.

I should've chosen my words better, as it is not "insane" but rather unwise. I'm not saying as at all that people shouldn't put family or love aside, but there are monetary costs to marriage and children. If you can put off these financial burdens until the time is better, it would be best to do so. Also, I didn't say anything about doing better on a test. It's about the money and that is what is important here.

If people are already married or have children, then of course put them first. I talk about cases where my classmates are actively planning weddings. Whatever floats your boat, but if I had any say in it, I'd would recommend holding off until you at least get a resident paycheck.

Although this is kind of standard (~$4-5k increase per year), it's been a major factor dragging AZCOM down. No one is really happy about it and it should play a factor on whether or not you want to come here.

That said, think hard about the years ahead and be smart about spending.

EDIT - I'd like to add that even though a lot of it is kind of a drop in the bucket in terms of cost, it's more about the mentality. I don't need new gadgets (ex. iPad) or furniture. I don't need to buy or even rent a house anytime in the next 10 years. I can live like a poor student even as an attending with no problem and I think this is what you need to get used to if you hope to pay off the debt in 3 years or so.

For the most part I'd agree with all of this. I do feel like AZCOM loses out on a lot of quality students because it's hard for somebody to rationalize potentially spending $70k+ a year for four years when they can go elsewhere for $20k less. That being said, I'm also a proponent of living within your means and not borrowing the COA if possible, which is entirely possible whether you have other sources of support or are entirely on your own because the COA calculated for AZCOM is fairly liberal as far as I can tell.

For the most part I'd agree with all of this. I do feel like AZCOM loses out on a lot of quality students because it's hard for somebody to rationalize potentially spending $70k+ a year for four years when they can go elsewhere for $20k less. That being said, I'm also a proponent of living within your means and not borrowing the COA if possible, which is entirely possible whether you have other sources of support or are entirely on your own because the COA calculated for AZCOM is fairly liberal as far as I can tell.

Yeah, I mean, I'm far from the norm and if a few hundred here and there will make your quarters (and potentially primary study place) nicer, then it's not a big deal. The point here is the mentality; if you feel comfortable living with the bare essentials, then the debt won't seem to bad to pay off.

For example, we had a residency director come and talk to us about how newly minted interns are often struck by their paychecks and proceed to spend money on "essentials" like a house. He harped on not buying a house mainly due to the cost and commitment. He says it's even more apparent once you start moon lighting and get ~$100 an hour. It can be a strange thing to actually have money.

The mentality I mean is one that removes excess and makes as few commitments as possible. I remember how weird it was not to have a TV sophomore year of undergrad when I switched roommates and he didn't bring one, but after that year, I just got used to it. Sure, it's not that big of a deal in the long run to pay a TV bill but it's not so much about the money, but how you think about it.

Ouch... 50k a year now for tuition. If they keep raising it its going to just get completely out of hand. I'd hope that they aren't planning on raising it 3k a year each year... looking at 60k tuition for year 4 would be absurd. Not too much we can do about it though. Wish I qualified for some kind of scholarship.... groan.

In other news, the admin is slacking this year lol Last year the match list was posted on 3/20 and the housing assignments were out by 3/22. lol I want to know where I'm living >.<

For Flu/Random,

Just out of curiosity which books do you guys study from? Do you buy the "required" texts listed through the school or do you get by well with the step 1 review materials? BRS, FA, etc.

Are the lectures generally powerpoint/pdf which you then print to take notes?

Ouch... 50k a year now for tuition. If they keep raising it its going to just get completely out of hand. I'd hope that they aren't planning on raising it 3k a year each year... looking at 60k tuition for year 4 would be absurd. Not too much we can do about it though. Wish I qualified for some kind of scholarship.... groan.

In other news, the admin is slacking this year lol Last year the match list was posted on 3/20 and the housing assignments were out by 3/22. lol I want to know where I'm living >.<

Ouch, I want to know where I am living too. When did you submit your housing application? I thought they already assigned/gave out assignments.

For Flu/Random,

Just out of curiosity which books do you guys study from? Do you buy the "required" texts listed through the school or do you get by well with the step 1 review materials? BRS, FA, etc.

Are the lectures generally powerpoint/pdf which you then print to take notes?


Virtually all lectures are made available in predominantly pdf format with a few coming out in ppt too.

As for books, I'm sure somebody will start a suggestions discussion in the 2015 group once summer gets here, but for now, the only book I've used much at all has been Rohen's anatomy atlas.

For Flu/Random,

Just out of curiosity which books do you guys study from? Do you buy the "required" texts listed through the school or do you get by well with the step 1 review materials? BRS, FA, etc.

Are the lectures generally powerpoint/pdf which you then print to take notes?

For phys, I only used the BRS constanzo book. The textbook is okay but only sparingly, which the library can help you with.

For biochem, I borrowed lippincott every now and then, but they give you all of the info you'll ever need in the notes. I don't know about a review book.

For anatomy, I used Netter and Rohen, but I borrowed those from the library. I actually never bought an anatomy textbook, which might've not been the best decision in retrospect but I have one now.

For psych, I used the little handbook that Dr. Ricardi should mention day one. It's like 10 dollars or something in the store.

For neuro, I used only the Atlas. I wish I had the High Yield neuroanatomy book to review.

For histo, I borrowed Wheaters at the library and went online. No textbooks here.

For embyro, I won the Saddler book from SDN and just used that. I wouldn't recommend buying it; just borrow it from the lib or use the ebook online which I think the school provides.

For ICM, I only had the Maxwell guide.

For OMM, I had the First Aid for COMLEX but that wasn't too helpful for their exams. I think the green book is good for review too but I don't have it.

That should be everything.

Ouch, I want to know where I am living too. When did you submit your housing application? I thought they already assigned/gave out assignments.

I spoke with Jose (Housing director) and he said that new housing assignments (starting in early August) were going to be finished at the end of this week or the middle of next.

I turned in my housing application in mid December and he said that there probably won't be any luxury studios (ones with a washer and dryer) which is what I picked as my number one but there will some regular studios. He also said that there were quite a few applications in before mine. Hope this helps!

For those of you wondering about projected tuition costs for this upcoming school year, it will reflect only a "nominal" increase to $50,129...


Uggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg. WHY?? WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS TO ME???

How can they justify this tuition? Everyone criticizes UNECOM for their tuition and yet somehow AZCOM seems to escape similar criticism despite the fact that they have the higher tuition.

Ouch... 50k a year now for tuition. If they keep raising it its going to just get completely out of hand. I'd hope that they aren't planning on raising it 3k a year each year... looking at 60k tuition for year 4 would be absurd. Not too much we can do about it though. Wish I qualified for some kind of scholarship.... groan.

In other news, the admin is slacking this year lol Last year the match list was posted on 3/20 and the housing assignments were out by 3/22. lol I want to know where I'm living >.<


What's the tuition like last year or the year before that? Is it always increasing?

What's the tuition like last year or the year before that? Is it always increasing?

When I was applying last year, tuition was ~$45.5k, while this year I'm actually paying ~$47.7k. It is pretty standard for schools to raise tuition and fees from year to year, but I sure was hoping to not cross the $50k mark until I was a third-year; now I just hope it stays under $60k by the time I graduate. They say it's gone up for us because there's been an 8% increase in utilities and an 11% increase in insurance costs. I personally think they could divert money away from things like grass and grass maintenance (maintenance and utility costs allegedly make up 30% of the budget)...in the middle of a desert...and help offset their utilities and maintenance costs and further embrace their "environmentally-mindful" beliefs they espouse when we're told notes won't be printed out for us anymore... :rolleyes:

I spoke with Jose (Housing director) and he said that new housing assignments (starting in early August) were going to be finished at the end of this week or the middle of next.

I turned in my housing application in mid December and he said that there probably won't be any luxury studios (ones with a washer and dryer) which is what I picked as my number one but there will some regular studios. He also said that there were quite a few applications in before mine. Hope this helps!

Thats not good for me... I just hope that I land a studio because I don't know that I can afford the 1BR other that I selected as a super backup. Plus I haven't even begun looking at off-campus because we were told during our interviews that pretty much everyone that wants to live on campus is able to do so. Granted I turned it in in early Jan I didn't think there would be too many people already jumping on it because I don't think the app even opened until Dec.


For phys, I only used the BRS constanzo book. The textbook is okay but only sparingly, which the library can help you with.

For biochem, I borrowed lippincott every now and then, but they give you all of the info you'll ever need in the notes. I don't know about a review book.

For anatomy, I used Netter and Rohen, but I borrowed those from the library. I actually never bought an anatomy textbook, which might've not been the best decision in retrospect but I have one now.

For psych, I used the little handbook that Dr. Ricardi should mention day one. It's like 10 dollars or something in the store.

For neuro, I used only the Atlas. I wish I had the High Yield neuroanatomy book to review.

For histo, I borrowed Wheaters at the library and went online. No textbooks here.

For embyro, I won the Saddler book from SDN and just used that. I wouldn't recommend buying it; just borrow it from the lib or use the ebook online which I think the school provides.

For ICM, I only had the Maxwell guide.

For OMM, I had the First Aid for COMLEX but that wasn't too helpful for their exams. I think the green book is good for review too but I don't have it.

That should be everything.

Thanks for an extensive list!

Thanks for the response. I'm hopeful!

Even if the class is full, which I bet it isn't since they seem to try and fill it a little at a time, there will be many accepted applicants that drop their acceptance this summer when they get off of other school waitlists... Having an interview this late won't hurt you too much I think.

There is always hope! I didn't interview till March but snuck in mid June

Just my added thoughts on the books :)


For phys, I only used the BRS constanzo book. The textbook is okay but only sparingly, which the library can help you with. I agree. The BRS was fantastic. I never touched the textbook. For renal phys, though, I used USMLE First Aid and added my own notes to it; the picture of the nephron really helped.

For biochem, I borrowed lippincott every now and then, but they give you all of the info you'll ever need in the notes. I don't know about a review book.
Didn't touch a textbook for Bio. Yueh's notes were amazing.

For anatomy, I used Netter and Rohen, but I borrowed those from the library. I actually never bought an anatomy textbook, which might've not been the best decision in retrospect but I have one now.
I had Netter, and I got the flashcards when I signed up for AMA during club week. I would do the flashcards during the required Interdisciplinary class. :)

For psych, I used the little handbook that Dr. Ricardi should mention day one. It's like 10 dollars or something in the store.
I bought that too, but I never used it. Maybe it will come in handy for Psych rotation...

For neuro, I used only the Atlas. I wish I had the High Yield neuroanatomy book to review.
Me too.

For histo, I borrowed Wheaters at the library and went online. No textbooks here.
No textbooks for me as well, but I did use a program called "HistoTime" which makes it's way through student's flashdrives during the first week or so. It's a bootlegged copy of histo pics with quizzes and stuff; it actually helped me out a lot. It shouldn't be too hard to find a second year who can pass it on. Ask your Big Sib.

For embyro, I won the Saddler book from SDN and just used that. I wouldn't recommend buying it; just borrow it from the lib or use the ebook online which I think the school provides.
I had the same book that was passed down to me by a friend at a different med school. I have yet to open it.

For ICM, I only had the Maxwell guide.
Me too... You won't need it until Spring Quarter at the earliest though.

For OMM, I had the First Aid for COMLEX but that wasn't too helpful for their exams. I think the green book is good for review too but I don't have it.
I have the green OMT review and love it. It spells everything out in a concise way. I haven't used it for studying, per se, but I did reference it when a friend wanted me to do a treatment on her and I needed to refresh my memory. I'm definitely going to use it as I start to study OMM for boards

That should be everything.

is there a cutoff mcat for AZCOM?

is there a cutoff mcat for AZCOM?

Don't quote me on this, but I can remember that when I toured the school the admissions lady I asked said the cutoff is roughly 24 for an interview.

Thanks for all the info on the books! I guess we'll get a book list at orientation?

Is there anything you 1st and 2nd years recommend doing before we get to orientation -anything you thought would have been helpful in making the transition?

Thanks for all the info on the books! I guess we'll get a book list at orientation?

Is there anything you 1st and 2nd years recommend doing before we get to orientation -anything you thought would have been helpful in making the transition?

It will be quicker to just look up your "required" books on the school bookstore's website over the summer. Just remember that a lot of books are listed as required because it's the only way the HPSP students can buy the books with their military funding and not because you'll ever actually need them.
http://www.webmedbooks.com/azcom/default2.aspx

The only thing I'd suggest for easing the transition is to move into your apartment about a week before orientation. That way you have time to set it up however you want, pick up any supplies you need, explore the area more and figure out where things are, and you'll be able to interact more with your classmates before orientation and during orientation because you won't have so many random errands to run. Other than that, don't do a darn thing school-related.

When I went for my interview, they gave us a folder with a bunch of info. and on one of the pages inside, it indicated that class rank doesn't begin until the end of the 2nd year. This may sound stupid, but what does that exactly mean? It just seems like it's worded awkwardly. Thanks guys! :)

Hey guys,

I work at MWU and we sometimes lurk around here and from time to time will post...a few things based on the comments in this tread...

If you are on waitlist or alternate we will discourage you to not come to campus in hopes of getting selected, please don't waste your money on that, we keep reading that if you meet with James Walter or if you visit we will remember you, any visit from alternate students or waitlist is NOT recorded and the committee will not have knowledge of this, students who visit and then are selected is purely coincidence I promise! Best thing to do is sent a short letter of interest, this is recorded for the committee to see

Also, you may call to check your status, you do not need another reason to call other than that, though if you haven't heard from us your status has not changed and yes the web portal is the most up to date information, when you call it is basically what we are looking at, your web portal so we will have the info you have.

we will try to post more often to clear up any information

BEST!

When I went for my interview, they gave us a folder with a bunch of info. and on one of the pages inside, it indicated that class rank doesn't begin until the end of the 2nd year. This may sound stupid, but what does that exactly mean? It just seems like it's worded awkwardly. Thanks guys! :)


Class rank is given after your first year actually. It's just a simple GPA ranked list, so your rank will show up as a number out of 250 (actually 264 for my class). So let's say you have a 4.0; you'll probably be 1 or 2. 3.9 will put you probably at about 30. 3.8 is probably about 50. 3.0 is probably around 200. 2.5 is probably 250. It's hard to say from class to class though, but this is what I've gathered from talking to my classmates.

From what I understand, though, the specific number of your class rank only matters for very competitive specialities. Beyond that, the Dean's letter will "highly recommend" the top 25%, "recommend" the middle 50%, and "recommend with reservations" the bottom 25%.

Class rank is given after your first year actually. It's just a simple GPA ranked list, so your rank will show up as a number out of 250 (actually 264 for my class). So let's say you have a 4.0; you'll probably be 1 or 2. 3.9 will put you probably at about 30. 3.8 is probably about 50. 3.0 is probably around 200. 2.5 is probably 250. It's hard to say from class to class though, but this is what I've gathered from talking to my classmates.

From what I understand, though, the specific number of your class rank only matters for very competitive specialities. Beyond that, the Dean's letter will "highly recommend" the top 25%, "recommend" the middle 50%, and "recommend with reservations" the bottom 25%.

I think there was a thread in the Allo forums that discussed the exact language used, but I don't think any part of the letter is negative in terms of outright performance. That said, the letter basically states the same things you could find in the transcript, so it seems to matter more for, as you say, the extremely competitive specialties where candidates differ by only a few things.

At any rate, the words have defined values, so it wouldn't really matter what it said. I always found this aspect strange but it's not a big deal in the end.

Yay -housing assignments have been made! :D

Does anyone know if I have an apartment # in the 100's if that is on the first floor? Also, how likely are they to fulfill a request to move in five days early?

Thanks for any input!

Not all assignments have been made. When was yours posted? I am still showing my status as waiting acceptance and haven't received and e-mail regarding it. I know you submitted in Mid December and I'm in early January so hopefully they just haven't gotten to me yet...

i received an assignment today as well. there was no email notification tho. i was assigned a studio w/ dishwasher, washer and dryer.

Yay -housing assignments have been made! :D

Does anyone know if I have an apartment # in the 100's if that is on the first floor? Also, how likely are they to fulfill a request to move in five days early?

Thanks for any input!

Yep, 100s=first floor. Moving in five days early is entirely dependent on when the previous occupant is moving out. If they're gone before then, you shouldn't have any problem getting them to move up your move-in date.

Not all assignments have been made. When was yours posted? I am still showing my status as waiting acceptance and haven't received and e-mail regarding it. I know you submitted in Mid December and I'm in early January so hopefully they just haven't gotten to me yet...

Mine posted a couple of hours ago -at least that was when I discovered it and I check earlier around 1:30 and nothing was there. He said he was going to finish them this week though.

i received an assignment today as well. there was no email notification tho. i was assigned a studio w/ dishwasher, washer and dryer.

Mind sharing when you submitted your application? What does it say when you've been assigned? I wanted a studio w/ washer&drier >.< lol

I got my on campus assignment a few hours ago! I got the choice I wanted, Studio!! (Apt F)

DB, I submitted my housing a few weeks ago (March), shortly after my acceptance.

I think what really helped was me calling in every week to check on the status, and today, I happened to call Jose right when he was doing the housing assignments. He asked for my name and said to check back by tomorrow.

Perhaps, if you haven't gotten it, try calling in tomorrow.

Edit: Does anyone know how early you can move in?

I got my on campus assignment a few hours ago! I got the choice I wanted, Studio!! (Apt F)

DB, I submitted my housing a few weeks ago (March), shortly after my acceptance.

I think what really helped was me calling in every week to check on the status, and today, I happened to call Jose right when he was doing the housing assignments. He asked for my name and said to check back by tomorrow.

Perhaps, if you haven't gotten it, try calling in tomorrow.

Edit: Does anyone know how early you can move in?

:mad: Housing assignments are supposed to be done first come first serve according to them. I better get my studio as well. Still nothing for me. I have e-mailed and called Jose weekly for over a month asking for updates. This is looking eerily familiar to when it took me 2 months to get a rotation assignment.

Mind sharing when you submitted your application? What does it say when you've been assigned? I wanted a studio w/ washer&drier >.< lol

i think i submitted the housing application the first day it came out. i remember checking the housing application almost every day to see when it came out. i think i made a post here saying the app was up so that was the day i submitted mine.

Haha, man I submitted mine in mid-january and I havnt heard back yet, but someone who did in March already did? Man this is funny.


Man if I thought it was like DC and required lobbying instead of just pressing a Submit button I would have gone about this differently :laugh:

I got my on campus assignment a few hours ago! I got the choice I wanted, Studio!! (Apt F)

DB, I submitted my housing a few weeks ago (March), shortly after my acceptance.

I think what really helped was me calling in every week to check on the status, and today, I happened to call Jose right when he was doing the housing assignments. He asked for my name and said to check back by tomorrow.

Perhaps, if you haven't gotten it, try calling in tomorrow.

Edit: Does anyone know how early you can move in?

I did the same thing. I called once and left a message and of course no one called me back (this was in February to ask some basic questions). From then on I called until I spoke to someone and that's when I got answers.

DB: Just call and make sure you speak with Jose and I am sure you will get an idea as to when your assignment will be made.

Hi Everyone,


I am interviewing next week and was hoping to get some help as far as where to stay and how to transport from the airport. I am hoping to stay somewhere that has a shuttle to/from the airport? I know the Drury Inn provides a shuttle to the campus, do they have a shuttle to the airport?

I am trying to get by without renting a car if it is possible. I will be calling Drury to find out the situation but just wanted to see what everyone else did and what is the least expensive route to take.

Thanks for the advice!

Just an FYI for anybody who wants to get in touch with Jose in housing, emailing him is by far the easiest way to get a reply to any questions you have.

Edit: Never said you'd hear back from him same-day if you emailed and he's been off a couple of days this week...

Yea well, emailed him yesterday and called a few times today no response.

Very odd. I am sure 99% of it is based on first comes first serves, and I was just one of very few lucky ones who happened to call at the exact right time. Keep trying :xf:

Very odd. I am sure 99% of it is based on first comes first serves, and I was just one of very few lucky ones who happened to call at the exact right time. Keep trying :xf:

Like I said though, if I don't get assigned housing now or don't get my Studio despite applying 3 months before on a "first come first serve" assignment. I have every right to be incredibly angry.

That said, another day and no assignment for Dan. :mad:

Like I said though, if I don't get assigned housing now or don't get my Studio despite applying 3 months before on a "first come first serve" assignment. I have every right to be incredibly angry.

That said, another day and no assignment for Dan. :mad:

Jose was off today (he's actually off a lot) but will supposedly be back tomorrow. Sit tight and hopefully you'll get some good news tomorrow. :thumbup:

Jose was off today (he's actually off a lot) but will supposedly be back tomorrow. Sit tight and hopefully you'll get some good news tomorrow. :thumbup:

:thumbup: Thanks for the updates. I appreciate it. I just stress quite often after the runaround I got when getting my assignment for rotations and the rejection -> waitlist -> rejection -> waitlist story I have from LECOM this year.

:thumbup: Thanks for the updates. I appreciate it. I just stress quite often after the runaround I got when getting my assignment for rotations and the rejection -> waitlist -> rejection -> waitlist story I have from LECOM this year.

I completely understand. The application cycle alone is a giant mind-game and this doesn't help any.

:thumbup: Thanks for the updates. I appreciate it. I just stress quite often after the runaround I got when getting my assignment for rotations and the rejection -> waitlist -> rejection -> waitlist story I have from LECOM this year.


Sorry man, I didn't mean for my post to make you angry. I was just trying to be informative and telling you what happened - it was just literally a routine/weekly call to housing, and I wasn't even expecting anything or even ask/request to be put ahead. I was just sincerely checking on how the status of the assignments, then he just asks for my name, look me up and told me how certain apartments are backed up and he'll do what he can for me with my other requests.

I actually feel really bad right now b/c probably someone somewhere out there calls him up and starts hassling him to put him/her first from assumptions of my above posts.


The whole application cycle is one big mess, I agree. But, the key is be sincere. Hang tight :xf:

Sorry man, I didn't mean for my post to make you angry. I was just trying to be informative and telling you what happened - it was just literally a routine/weekly call to housing, and I wasn't even expecting anything or even ask/request to be put ahead. I was just sincerely checking on how the status of the assignments, then he just asks for my name, look me up and told me how certain apartments are backed up and he'll do what he can for me with my other requests.

I actually feel really bad right now b/c probably someone somewhere out there calls him up and starts hassling him to put him/her first from assumptions of my above posts.


The whole application cycle is one big mess, I agree. But, the key is be sincere. Hang tight :xf:

No Big deal, I'm sure it will all work out in the end. Not getting the assignment may force me into a better situation, who knows. I'll cross that bridge when i get to it. I'm not angry at all, the whole process is just incredibly frustrating. you'd figure they would update everyone with housing assignments at once.

Heh, just talked to him on the phone, I mentioned that the reason for calling was that I was just a little worried that maybe my application fell through the cracks or something since I heard that other fellow classmates who submitted after me had already heard back and I hadnt yet.


He kind of ignored that and just kept saying that he ran out of the top Studios (the ones with the washers and dryers).


I told him that I understood that the likelihood of getting those would be low and that that wasnt the issue I was concerned with (since I had listed 6-7 preferences), more concerned with the fact that people who applied after me on a first come first serve basis had heard back already and I hadnt but he kept diverting the conversation away from that route.




End result

-I got no answer as to why someone who applied in March got assigned before someone who applied in December/January.

-The studios with washer/dryer are gone

-I dont know how many studios are still available

-He is working on it and will release assignments for me? or everyone? by either tonight or tomorrow


Sorry, mission failed haha

Heh, just talked to him on the phone, I mentioned that the reason for calling was that I was just a little worried that maybe my application fell through the cracks or something since I heard that other fellow classmates who submitted after me had already heard back and I hadnt yet.


He kind of ignored that and just kept saying that he ran out of the top Studios (the ones with the washers and dryers).


I told him that I understood that the likelihood of getting those would be low and that that wasnt the issue I was concerned with (since I had listed 6-7 preferences), more concerned with the fact that people who applied after me on a first come first serve basis had heard back already and I hadnt but he kept diverting the conversation away from that route.




End result

-I got no answer as to why someone who applied in March got assigned before someone who applied in December/January.

-The studios with washer/dryer are gone

-I dont know how many studios are still available

-He is working on it and will release assignments for me? or everyone? by either tonight or tomorrow


Sorry, mission failed haha


My worst fear confirmed. awesome.:diebanana:


anyhoo...hopefully, you'll get yours soon. If you scroll up a bit in this thread, someone said one of his friends who got accepted in the summer managed to secure a nice on-housing campus studio (in the summer!). :xf: There is still plenty of time.

edit: deleted some wall of text.

No Big deal, I'm sure it will all work out in the end. Not getting the assignment may force me into a better situation, who knows. I'll cross that bridge when i get to it. I'm not angry at all, the whole process is just incredibly frustrating. you'd figure they would update everyone with housing assignments at once.


Yeah, man, totally. If I had a choice and the resources, I would probably just team up with someone/finance/buy a house and sell it back after I'm done with med school and/or residency :) - looking at the amount of debt I will accumulate is scary.

Well, I just called and spoke with him. He asked me to repeat my name, told me that I'd been assigned and that It was online. Then he told me he hadn't saved yet so it wouldn't be online but it'd be posted in the next hour or so.

Not happy to hear that there are no more studios with washer/drier but I kind of expected those to go to second year students anyway so I guess its not the biggest loss. I am just hoping now that I actually got assigned a studio. My biggest fear now that they've jacked tuition another 3k is that I get the 1BR and they raise the prices on that too. I only put it there as a worst case scenario. Who knows... Guess I'll find out in an hr

Assignments are up. Got my studio w washer and drier. All that worrying for nothing. Much more relaxed now lol

Hi Dan,

How do you know your studio comes with washer and drier? I got mine (studio Apt. E), but it does not say anything about washer/drier. BTW, does the studio come with some furnitures or do I have to bring it?

Thanks

Assignments are up. Got my studio w washer and drier. All that worrying for nothing. Much more relaxe now lol

Does anyone happen to know which type of apartments are located in building F?

Does anyone happen to know which type of apartments are located in building F?

Well, the one that I got specifically was F, and it is said to be studio w/ dishwasher/added upgrades (645) so im guessing everything except for the washer/dryer.

Hi Dan,

How do you know your studio comes with washer and drier? I got mine (studio Apt. E), but it does not say anything about washer/drier. BTW, does the studio come with some furnitures or do I have to bring it?

Thanks

The studios that come with washer and dryer should explicitly be listed "with washer and dryer" in the description. As far as furnishings go, you will have to provide your own because the apartments are unfurnished.

The studios that come with washer and dryer should explicitly be listed "with washer and dryer" in the description. As far as furnishings go, you will have to provide your own because the apartments are unfurnished.

This. Mine is in K1--. It specifically says with washer and dryer. It is 680/month.

This. Mine is in K1--. It specifically says with washer and dryer. It is 680/month.

looks like we're hall mates:thumbup:

Well, it's not fair. I also pay 645 for my studio but it does not come with anything. I heard the Apt. E was quite old. Any comments?

Well, the one that I got specifically was F, and it is said to be studio w/ dishwasher/added upgrades (645) so im guessing everything except for the washer/dryer.

Well, it's not fair. I also pay 645 for my studio but it does not come with anything. I heard the Apt. E was quite old. Any comments?

Well, mine is a bit weird. Like before I accept, it says ~Apt F with dish-washer/added upgrades (whatever that means), then after I accept and set in a move-in date, it just says Apt F/room # etc without the (dishwasher/added upgrade).

So, I am confused.


Dan, does your apartment page say Apt K now or does it says Apt K + blah blah blah? And does anyone get Apt + dishwasher for 645?

looks like we're hall mates:thumbup:

:thumbup: cali represent lol

Well, mine is a bit weird. Like before I accept, it says ~Apt F with dish-washer/added upgrades (whatever that means), then after I accept and set in a move-in date, it just says Apt F/room # etc without the (dishwasher/added upgrade).

So, I am confused.


Dan, does your apartment page say Apt K now or does it says Apt K + blah blah blah? And does anyone get Apt + dishwasher for 645?

Mine just says Apt F/room for 645. No mention of dishwasher or upgrades on either page.

As far as apartments go, what you see here should be what you get in regards to what you're paying and what you're getting.

As far as apartments go, what you see here should be what you get as far as what you're paying and what you're getting.


Thanks! Yeah, that is the updated rate from last year, it looks the studios all went up by 15bucks from the paper they gave us at orientation. Okay, so I got what I wanted, cheapest studio - i figure washer/dryer is within walking distance.

Hey everyone,

I've been a "lurker" for some time but figured I'd jump in here since housing assignments are up. I'm disappointed to have received an email stating that I did not get housing after all. My housing app was complete by mid-Feb. and I ranked almost all the options (although my first choices were 2 bedroom apartments with an assigned roommate). Anyone else in the same or a similar boat? I'd really appreciate if someone can offer advice on where to go from here. I was really depending on the student housing...

Well, mine is a bit weird. Like before I accept, it says ~Apt F with dish-washer/added upgrades (whatever that means), then after I accept and set in a move-in date, it just says Apt F/room # etc without the (dishwasher/added upgrade).

So, I am confused.


Dan, does your apartment page say Apt K now or does it says Apt K + blah blah blah? And does anyone get Apt + dishwasher for 645?

I just signed the contract and set my move-in date. It still says

AZ On-Campus Apt. K, K1##
Studio
613 sq. ft.
with dishwasher and washer & dryer

Did the # of your apartment change? I can't remember but I thought there were 3 types of studio. Actually I'm certain there were 3 because I remember ranking 7 total including the 1br

EDIT: Random posted above :laugh:

Hey everyone,

I've been a "lurker" for some time but figured I'd jump in here since housing assignments are up. I'm disappointed to have received an email stating that I did not get housing after all. My housing app was complete by mid-Feb. and I ranked almost all the options (although my first choices were 2 bedroom apartments with an assigned roommate). Anyone else in the same or a similar boat? I'd really appreciate if someone can offer advice on where to go from here. I was really depending on the student housing...

Sorry to hear that. If I were you and you really were open to anything I would contact Jose and see if any rooms at all were still available. Housing just finished going out today so I would have to assume that some of the people that were assigned may not actually accept their housing assignment and opt to live off campus or may even hear back about attending a different school. Doesn't hurt to call and ask.

:thumbup: Thanks for the updates. I appreciate it. I just stress quite often after the runaround I got when getting my assignment for rotations and the rejection -> waitlist -> rejection -> waitlist story I have from LECOM this year.

Dan, are you still trying to get in to LECOM off the waitlist? From my short browsing of this thread I thought you were as die-hard AZCOM as they came.

Dan, are you still trying to get in to LECOM off the waitlist? From my short browsing of this thread I thought you were as die-hard AZCOM as they came.

No definitely not. I was just referencing the craziness of the cycle. I got batted around back and forth like that at LECOM before I was accepted to AZCOM.

Hey everyone,

I've been a "lurker" for some time but figured I'd jump in here since housing assignments are up. I'm disappointed to have received an email stating that I did not get housing after all. My housing app was complete by mid-Feb. and I ranked almost all the options (although my first choices were 2 bedroom apartments with an assigned roommate). Anyone else in the same or a similar boat? I'd really appreciate if someone can offer advice on where to go from here. I was really depending on the student housing...


I'd email Jose and see if there are any other options available that you might not have previously ranked. If that doesn't pan out, I'd suggest visiting the link below to see the discussion that took place as this year's class tried to find housing for a decent starting point before you start to do too much Googling.

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=167834788946&topic=10734

Thanks a ton for the tips DbDan and randomusername. I definitely would prefer on campus housing the most so I will call Jose tomorrow and pray/hope for the best. Otherwise, that facebook link will be helpful as a guide for sure

Hey everyone who was disappointed to not get housing like I was: I called today and it turns out that there are available units after all! I think the rejection email goes out to those who don't get their first or second choice picks. I was able to secure a standard 2 bedroom place for now, but that could change depending on people dropping out, etc. The standard may not be ideal but if you guys want, call the office!

hey guys

does AZCOM give deferred acceptance for class of 2016? Have you known anyone on this forum who have got one?

Hey guys,

I just got an email from Jose that I can move in on 07/25, which is one week before orientation day. Not sure if I have to pay any extra fee. I'm sure you can move in couple days earlier than the contract.

Look forward to see all of you there

Question.. so for those of us who will be living off campus... is parking available at school? I assume there is a fee for parking at school...?

Hey guys,

I just got an email from Jose that I can move in on 07/25, which is one week before orientation day. Not sure if I have to pay any extra fee. I'm sure you can move in couple days earlier than the contract.

Look forward to see all of you there


You'll just be charged a per diem rate for the extra week.


Question.. so for those of us who will be living off campus... is parking available at school? I assume there is a fee for parking at school...?

Surprisingly, this is one of the few aspects in which MWU doesn't charge and fee you into an oblivion. If more and more students keep coming from California and other regions where charging for parking is fairly normal, I wouldn't doubt to see it change though. :rolleyes:

You'll just be charged a per diem rate for the extra week.




Surprisingly, this is one of the few aspects in which MWU doesn't charge and fee you into an oblivion. If more and more students keep coming from California and other regions where charging for parking is fairly normal, I wouldn't doubt to see it change though. :rolleyes:


AWESOOOOMMEEEE!! so no parking application.. no parking fee..just come in through the gates and park wherever u want?! i do love this school..

So I have Kaiser Permanente which doesnt exist in AZ.


Clearly I will have to switch Insurance Providers.



Anyone have any advice/information that would save me some hassle on which Provider to choose? The MWU offered or something else?


I am pretty much only concerned with not having to pay a ton of $ for prescription drugs.

AWESOOOOMMEEEE!! so no parking application.. no parking fee..just come in through the gates and park wherever u want?! i do love this school..


lol at ucla, u hav to go duel for ur parking spot. welcoming change.

AWESOOOOMMEEEE!! so no parking application.. no parking fee..just come in through the gates and park wherever u want?! i do love this school..

There is an "application" it's just so you can get a parking sticker so the guards at the gate know to just let you through. Also, you can't park on the first floor of the parking structure since it's for staff/faculty. Parking will be nice the first few weeks you guys start since MSIIs and some other programs are still on break or haven't started yet (which is why white coat is in Oct.) Once things pick up, parking can get annoying, though there's always parking in the structure.

Sorry to divert the topic. I got an interview invite and I am looking at the hotels available. I have seen that the Drury Inn and Country Inn seem to be highly recommended. I was wondering, are there any hotels which provide a shuttle from the airport to the hotels? Or would I just have to use Super Shuttle?

I stayed at a comfort suites that was close and had a shuttle to Midwestern. Right off the 101 as well.

That was the cheapest I found at the time, might want to check that out!

Sorry to divert the topic. I got an interview invite and I am looking at the hotels available. I have seen that the Drury Inn and Country Inn seem to be highly recommended. I was wondering, are there any hotels which provide a shuttle from the airport to the hotels? Or would I just have to use Super Shuttle?

I don't think there is any free transportation from/to airport/hotel - I had to use the SuperShuttle during my interview. There is however free transportation from/to school/nearby-hotel.

Is the only difference b/w diff studios whether or not it includes dishwasher/dryer/washer?

hey guys

does AZCOM give deferred acceptance for class of 2016? Have you known anyone on this forum who have got one?

To answer your question, I don't believe so. I interviewed at Touro-NV and they had an official policy, but there isn't one for AZCOM as far as I know.

I would definitely call to make sure, but as far as I know, there is no deferral policy.

To answer your question, I don't believe so. I interviewed at Touro-NV and they had an official policy, but there isn't one for AZCOM as far as I know.

I would definitely call to make sure, but as far as I know, there is no deferral policy.

I wondered this too -I know I could call but I wondered if AZCOM lets people defer for pregnancy or other issues.

I wondered this too -I know I could call but I wondered if AZCOM lets people defer for pregnancy or other issues.

They do defer for pregnancy, health reasons, etc. I thought the question was about being on the waitlist and showing up. Not sure why I read it like that :laugh:

But, yes, they can work it out for you if you cannot finish the year. I'm not entirely sure how remediation works though. They do give you a 2nd chance, but not a 3rd chance from what I know. Failing a class the second time around = expulsion.

They do defer for pregnancy, health reasons, etc. I thought the question was about being on the waitlist and showing up. Not sure why I read it like that :laugh:

But, yes, they can work it out for you if you cannot finish the year. I'm not entirely sure how remediation works though. They do give you a 2nd chance, but not a 3rd chance from what I know. Failing a class the second time around = expulsion.

Hey, thanks -that is good to know! When I re-read it a second time I think you might have interpreted it right the first time! :laugh:

They do defer for pregnancy, health reasons, etc. I thought the question was about being on the waitlist and showing up. Not sure why I read it like that :laugh:

But, yes, they can work it out for you if you cannot finish the year. I'm not entirely sure how remediation works though. They do give you a 2nd chance, but not a 3rd chance from what I know. Failing a class the second time around = expulsion.

I actually looked this up last night because there was a discussion in the main Osteo forum that alleged CCOM and AZCOM both did this, I guess they must have done that previously but according to the catalog, no more. If you fail one class, you retake it over the summer or the next year and if you fail it again, then you enter the extended study program. Essentially before you're dismissed in the pre-clinical years you have to fail a total of four courses across MS1-2 or three courses in one year.

They do defer for pregnancy, health reasons, etc. I thought the question was about being on the waitlist and showing up. Not sure why I read it like that :laugh:

But, yes, they can work it out for you if you cannot finish the year. I'm not entirely sure how remediation works though. They do give you a 2nd chance, but not a 3rd chance from what I know. Failing a class the second time around = expulsion.

thanks for the reply:thumbup:
actually you read right first time!! I meant like waitlist..because I've been waitlisted and was wondering if there are any deferred acceptances which have priority over me.

I actually looked this up last night because there was a discussion in the main Osteo forum that alleged CCOM and AZCOM both did this, I guess they must have done that previously but according to the catalog, no more. If you fail one class, you retake it over the summer or the next year and if you fail it again, then you enter the extended study program. Essentially before you're dismissed in the pre-clinical years you have to fail a total of four courses across MS1-2 or three courses in one year.

Wow, that must've been recent because my friend who is now 2014 didn't have that summer option. It's good to hear that AZCOM gives you a lot of chances.

thanks for the reply:thumbup:
actually you read right first time!! I meant like waitlist..because I've been waitlisted and was wondering if there are any deferred acceptances which have priority over me.

Oh, ok :laugh: Yeah, there's no waitlist deferral thing as far as I know. They do accept people pretty close to the first day of classes, so keep in touch and they could call you as late as the end of July.

What's the class that everyone fails MS1? Gross anatomy?

What's the class that everyone fails MS1? Gross anatomy?

It really depends on the person, as I've heard of people struggling in all of the basic sciences. The only courses I've not heard of anybody struggling in whatsoever so far are ICM and OMM, granted I've also heard that second year ICM gets fairly intense at times but I'm not sure how many people actually struggle with it.

Is anyone able to access the blueprints for the different on campus housing options. I remember looking at them when ranking the different options, but now I can't find them. I just want to get an idea of what I will have room to bring/the layout...I am a little neurotic about these kinds of things.

Is anyone able to access the blueprints for the different on campus housing options. I remember looking at them when ranking the different options, but now I can't find them. I just want to get an idea of what I will have room to bring/the layout...I am a little neurotic about these kinds of things.


I was able to get a complete floor plan by emailing Jose my apartment type/room #.

Speaking of being neurotic, I assume all on campus housing apts have AC/Heater built in, right?

It really depends on the person, as I've heard of people struggling in all of the basic sciences. The only courses I've not heard of anybody struggling in whatsoever so far are ICM and OMM, granted I've also heard that second year ICM gets fairly intense at times but I'm not sure how many people actually struggle with it.

ICM has changed drastically this year and it has not been kind. We've had ridiculous and sporadic amounts of information dumped on us with little to no direction on what is going to be tested. Combined with the 6 hours of just ICM on Friday, ICM 2nd year is easily the worst class we have.

It's not difficult, but really, the shotgun mentality coupled with a new guest speaker each week makes it hard to adjust and find out what is relevant. 2012 didn't have this problem since 1 person taught the majority of the afternoon sessions, but now it is a completely different beast.

Studying for boards now just makes it all that much worse this quarter.

We've complained and critiqued a lot so hopefully it will change for 2014, but no guarantees. Just imagine your worst undergrad course: a ton of seemingly random topics and 'everything' is high yield. Yeah, it wasn't fun to see the entire page bolded.

I think failure is more of a concern for basic sciences. I believe that failing OMM and ICM have different consequences and committees to refer to. I can't seem them holding a student back because they failed OMM or ICM. I personally don't know anyone who has though, so I'm not entirely sure how it works.

Speaking of being neurotic, I assume all on campus housing apts have AC/Heater built in, right?
Yeah they do. That is why electricity is not included, so when you leave the AC on 24/7 you have to pay for it.

ICM has changed drastically this year and it has not been kind. We've had ridiculous and sporadic amounts of information dumped on us with little to no direction on what is going to be tested. Combined with the 6 hours of just ICM on Friday, ICM 2nd year is easily the worst class we have.

It's not difficult, but really, the shotgun mentality coupled with a new guest speaker each week makes it hard to adjust and find out what is relevant. 2012 didn't have this problem since 1 person taught the majority of the afternoon sessions, but now it is a completely different beast.

Studying for boards now just makes it all that much worse this quarter.

We've complained and critiqued a lot so hopefully it will change for 2014, but no guarantees. Just imagine your worst undergrad course: a ton of seemingly random topics and 'everything' is high yield. Yeah, it wasn't fun to see the entire page bolded.

I think failure is more of a concern for basic sciences. I believe that failing OMM and ICM have different consequences and committees to refer to. I can't seem them holding a student back because they failed OMM or ICM. I personally don't know anyone who has though, so I'm not entirely sure how it works.

That's always reassuring. haha I really hope 2013's criticisms payoff for us though, as that sounds horrible.

Also, from what I gathered in the catalog the school won't technically differentiate between a failure of a basic science vs. any other course, even electives; they all seem to count equally as failures (I think it said they'd even potentially count a withdrawal from a course as a failure).

That's always reassuring. haha I really hope 2013's criticisms payoff for us though, as that sounds horrible.

Also, from what I gathered in the catalog the school won't technically differentiate between a failure of a basic science vs. any other course, even electives; they all seem to count equally as failures (I think it said they'd even potentially count a withdrawal from a course as a failure).

I'm certain they'll do something. Right now, many of the lectures are actually compilations of lectures given to residents or med students in the past. For example, in our last midterm, we had one 3 hour bock comprise of SLE, Diabetic neuropathy, MS, and ALS as presented by one doc in practice now. It is sort of connected, but honestly they can do a way better job.

lol at ucla, u hav to go duel for ur parking spot. welcoming change.

Heh. You have to apply to duel for parking and even then you may get a 50% shot. Parking on campus was so ridiculous it amazes me that they haven't tried to find room to build a larger parking structure somewhere, or turn lot 11 into a structure instead of open air. I was lucky and got parking 2nd year by saying I had a job off campus in Irvine working for my roommates brother. Got audited and had to provide a "pay stub" but it was well worth it to not have to find parking constantly on gayley/landfair.

BTW, always good to see another UCLA grad heading to AZCOM :thumbup:

Heh. You have to apply to duel for parking and even then you may get a 50% shot. Parking on campus was so ridiculous it amazes me that they haven't tried to find room to build a larger parking structure somewhere, or turn lot 11 into a structure instead of open air. I was lucky and got parking 2nd year by saying I had a job off campus in Irvine working for my roommates brother. Got audited and had to provide a "pay stub" but it was well worth it to not have to find parking constantly on gayley/landfair.

BTW, always good to see another UCLA grad heading to AZCOM :thumbup:

yeah lol :laugh: you get parking ticket at ucla for the most random reason, even for parking in the right spot. but, ull develop insane, unparalleled parallel parking skill. anyhoo, cali/ucla represent!

yeah lol :laugh: you get parking ticket at ucla for the most random reason, even for parking in the right spot. but, ull develop insane, unparalleled parallel parking skill. anyhoo, cali/ucla represent!

:laugh: Our biggest entertainment when I used to hang out and day drink during the summer in our frat house was to watch all the people try to parallel park on Gayley. Such epic failure 90% of the time it was awesome

Has anyone been invited to interview in May?

Has anyone been invited to interview in May?

I have one this friday. I was told that they interview through may.

I have one this friday. I was told that they interview through may.

Good luck at your interview :)

Just wondering if anybody has received an invitation recently.

I'm going to buy a new computer before starting in the fall, and I'm considering a Mac, but I was wondering if any current students could shed light on that. Has anyone heard about problems with compatability with the school or any other concerns?
Thanks for the feedback.

I'm going to buy a new computer before starting in the fall, and I'm considering a Mac, but I was wondering if any current students could shed light on that. Has anyone heard about problems with compatability with the school or any other concerns?
Thanks for the feedback.

Shouldn't be an issue. You ran run windows on Mac. Either standalone or through parallel windows.

How is AZCOM about granting 1 year deferrals to admitted students? Do they do this often?

as of a couple days ago:

"We do want to make sure you are aware that at this time our class is full and we are accepting pending an open seat. The past two years we did ultimately have a seat for all our pending accepts, but we cannot guarantee that will always be the case."

This was in my interview confirmation email. I have recently cancelled my interview for April 22 so hopefully someone else can take it.

Good luck.

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sorry guys - i posted in the wrong thread :|

Since this was asked twice on the same page...

hey guys

does AZCOM give deferred acceptance for class of 2016? Have you known anyone on this forum who have got one?


How is AZCOM about granting 1 year deferrals to admitted students? Do they do this often?

Search "Deferred Admissions" in the catalog.

http://www.midwestern.edu/Documents/Catalog/AZCatalog2010-2011(1).pdf (http://www.midwestern.edu/Documents/Catalog/AZCatalog2010-2011%281%29.pdf)

Also, as noted by Flushot, there is NOT a wait-list deferred admissions policy for AZCOM such as exists at some other schools.

In the interview I had today, the Dean stated that they do NOT interview for the waitlist and they have spots open. Seems contradictory to the email that was sent ..hmm.

In the interview I had today, the Dean stated that they do NOT interview for the waitlist and they have spots open. Seems contradictory to the email that was sent ..hmm.

I didn't get that email either and my interview is tomorrow.

sorry guys! i posted the info in the wrong thread. feel better now :)

In the interview I had today, the Dean stated that they do NOT interview for the waitlist and they have spots open. Seems contradictory to the email that was sent ..hmm.


Hi all:) I am a current first year AZCOM student and member of the Student Government Association. As of last Friday morning, there were 219 matriculants in the AZCOM 2015 class. I interviewed on April 16 of last year, as did several of my current classmates. Rest assured, you are not interviewing for a waitlist spot. Best of luck with your Spring interviews!

Question.. so for those of us who will be living off campus... is parking available at school? I assume there is a fee for parking at school...?

I am a current master's student at MWU and will start at AZCOM this fall. I live off campus and there is plenty of parking at school. And it may surprise you but its free to get a parking permit..

I am a current master's student at MWU and will start at AZCOM this fall. I live off campus and there is plenty of parking at school. And it may surprise you but its free to get a parking permit..

Parking permit is included in the $50K/year tuition.

Parking permit is included in the $50K/year tuition.


I was wondering what was causing the price to be so high.

Some preliminary match data:

-17 scrambles of 150 (=11%)
-25% IM
-19% FP
-17% ER
-7 ortho
-70% ACGME match
-1 (not certain on # but certain of at least one DO match) ENT

Not sure when more detailed info will be available.

Since this was asked twice on the same page...






Search "Deferred Admissions" in the catalog.

http://www.midwestern.edu/Documents/Catalog/AZCatalog2010-2011(1).pdf (http://www.midwestern.edu/Documents/Catalog/AZCatalog2010-2011%281%29.pdf)

Also, as noted by Flushot, there is NOT a wait-list deferred admissions policy for AZCOM such as exists at some other schools.

thanks :thumbup:

I was wondering what was causing the price to be so high.

Essentially the fact that since it's a private school without a bunch of research grants, super-wealthy alumni donating to it left-and-right, etc. tuition is used to cover all but 3% of the total expenses for the school. From that tuition, 59% goes towards wages and benefits for employees, 16% to the vague category or "maintenance, interest, and depreciation," 14% to utilities, 3% to supplies, 3% to clinical teaching costs, 3% to administrative support, and 2% to insurance.

And the "free" parking permits, dont forget.

And the "free" parking permits, dont forget.

I would've included that, but my assumption is that it's located somewhere in the additional $600+ in fees not included in tuition, just like the occasional "free" meal and ice cream social.

I was wondering, how often and when is the simulation lab used?

When I was interviewing at CCOM, I bought up the fact that they don't have a simulation lab and was told by a prof that it's mainly used to teach complex procedures during post-graduate (residency) years and some in the upper (rotation) years. I was informed that it's not really "essential" in med school and was more of a fad that schools use to lure students. Anyone have any thoughts about this?

I was wondering, how often and when is the simulation lab used?

When I was interviewing at CCOM, I bought up the fact that they don't have a simulation lab and was told by a prof that it's mainly used to teach complex procedures during post-graduate (residency) years and some in the upper (rotation) years. I was informed that it's not really "essential" in med school and was more of a fad that schools use to lure students. Anyone have any thoughts about this?

As MS1's, the curriculum only has us using the simulation lab when we have a standardized-patient encounter during spring quarter. That being said, I'm in the anesthesia club and we had an intubation workshop where we worked on the dummies and I know the MS2's use it more often, I'm just not certain for what though. So hopefully Flushot or another 2nd year can enlighten us...Clearly though, it isn't an "essential" thing given the fact that docs were being educated well-before sim labs existed, but I think they serve a purpose if utilized properly.

Flushot or randomusername, have you guys gotten ahold of the class of 2011 match list yet?

Flushot or randomusername, have you guys gotten ahold of the class of 2011 match list yet?


Look a few posts up.

Look a few posts up.

11% scramble? That seems really high. On the other hand, 7 ortho is pretty good

Sorry about the "free" thing, I just wanted to be a smart @ss.

I interviewed here and checked the MWU portal. It shows a post-accepted tab with a checklist, but when I click on it, says it is only for those who are accepted.

I believe I read earlier that the post-accepted is only for those who are really accepted. I could have sworn I hadn't seen it earlier.

Thanks guys.

Sorry about the "free" thing, I just wanted to be a smart @ss.

I interviewed here and checked the MWU portal. It shows a post-accepted tab with a checklist, but when I click on it, says it is only for those who are accepted.

I believe I read earlier that the post-accepted is only for those who are really accepted. I could have sworn I hadn't seen it earlier.

Thanks guys.

Haha I was playing along with that because we sporadically have these "free" events but most people seem to forget we paid all of those activities fees for the "free" stuff during first quarter.

If there's just a link on the side menu, that's not the checklist people are talking about. The checklist should actually show up in the main portion of the screen if I'm remembering correctly.

Sorry about the "free" thing, I just wanted to be a smart @ss.

I interviewed here and checked the MWU portal. It shows a post-accepted tab with a checklist, but when I click on it, says it is only for those who are accepted.

I believe I read earlier that the post-accepted is only for those who are really accepted. I could have sworn I hadn't seen it earlier.

Thanks guys.

The tab on the side showed up for me sometime before my interview if I remember correctly. Random is right, something will show up on the main screen when you click on that link once you're accepted. Good luck! :luck:

Hi all!
AZCOM does not interview for waitlist, we have spots, not our email or perhaps sent in error not sure

Haha I was playing along with that because we sporadically have these "free" events but most people seem to forget we paid all of those activities fees for the "free" stuff during first quarter.

If there's just a link on the side menu, that's not the checklist people are talking about. The checklist should actually show up in the main portion of the screen if I'm remembering correctly.


TANSTAAFL! :laugh:

there ain't no such thing as a free lunch!

Hi Guys,

I know I am posting this question on the AZCOM thread so responses will be biased but I was wondering what your opinions are on attending AZCOM vs LECOM?

I know LECOM has the highest passing rates but that is not of interest to me because I don't care about passing but instead getting a high score...High enough to get into a specialty residency.

I don't care about location because it's med school and I will be in the library or studying somewhere most of the time anyways.

As I mentioned earlier, im interested in specializing so does AZCOM send thattt many more students into specialties than LECOM? I searched some and see the data posted above but just wanted to know if anyone knows more?

I'm just really debating if its worth paying like 100k more to go to AZCOM because I found both programs to be great and feel like the curriculum is similar. LECOM is more established and has it's own teaching hospital but AZCOM has great rotations from what I've heard.

Thanks for any advice-

Hi all:) I am a current first year AZCOM student and member of the Student Government Association. As of last Friday morning, there were 219 matriculants in the AZCOM 2015 class. I interviewed on April 16 of last year, as did several of my current classmates. Rest assured, you are not interviewing for a waitlist spot. Best of luck with your Spring interviews!


Thanks for the info. Was just there today and loved it! All the student ambassadors and interviewers were great.:):thumbup:

Hi Guys,

I know I am posting this question on the AZCOM thread so responses will be biased but I was wondering what your opinions are on attending AZCOM vs LECOM?

I know LECOM has the highest passing rates but that is not of interest to me because I don't care about passing but instead getting a high score...High enough to get into a specialty residency.

I don't care about location because it's med school and I will be in the library or studying somewhere most of the time anyways.

As I mentioned earlier, im interested in specializing so does AZCOM send thattt many more students into specialties than LECOM? I searched some and see the data posted above but just wanted to know if anyone knows more?

I'm just really debating if its worth paying like 100k more to go to AZCOM because I found both programs to be great and feel like the curriculum is similar. LECOM is more established and has it's own teaching hospital but AZCOM has great rotations from what I've heard.

Thanks for any advice-

If you think all else is equal, save the $100k and go to LECOM because I sure as heck would need more info than a match-list to commit that extra money to my education.

I will point out that the curricula aren't exactly the same unless you're going the traditional route at LECOM since they also have ISP and PBL tracks. Also, when did they get a true teaching hospital (this is news to me)?

Look a few posts up.


Wow I don't know how I missed that! Thanks man. :thumbup:

Well I thinkkk all else is equal..but am I wrong? (besides location, AZCOM students appeared to be more friendly and obviously the gym and on-campus housing are huge pluses for AZCOM)

I thought I heard during the interview that they have a teaching hospital, but ill research more to confirm. I have been accepted into the Lecture pathway at LECOM so that's why I was saying they are the same, but at least similar.

Thanks for the advice so far, esp since you are a current student.

PS I agree with the above post that the ambassadors were awesome during interview, very friendly and informative and actually wanted to spend time with us ..and interviewers were great.



If you think all else is equal, save the $100k and go to LECOM because I sure as heck would need more info than a match-list to commit that extra money to my education.

I will point out that the curricula aren't exactly the same unless you're going the traditional route at LECOM since they also have ISP and PBL tracks. Also, when did they get a true teaching hospital (this is news to me)?

You are going to LECOM-E right?

I think several things account for the savings. The facilities are much smaller and less campus looking. To me, that doesn't really matter, since I'm just here to do whatever. What bothered me a while back was the lack of cadavers. I don't know if this is the case, but I believe now that anatomy is fully digital or a mix between prosected and digital.

I'd hate to bring in the debate here, but it's really up to you if this is a deal breaker, which in retrospect, I could be convinced either way. Anatomy had a lot of fluff in lab with simply cleaning things up to be presentable and I enjoyed the experience, but it's hard to say if it was absolutely necessary.

I could also be wrong and LECOM-E does still have cadavers :laugh: Anyhow, like random said, if you see yourself happy in either location, save some money where you can.

I've been looking online at different housing options and thought I'd ask if there were any trailer parks nearby? This probably sounds odd, but I figure it's just as cost effective to rent a trailer (perhaps even more so) and since most of the neighbors would be senior citizens I wouldn't have to worry about too much excitement distracting me from my studies. Any thoughts?

I've been looking online at different housing options and thought I'd ask if there were any trailer parks nearby? This probably sounds odd, but I figure it's just as cost effective to rent a trailer (perhaps even more so) and since most of the neighbors would be senior citizens I wouldn't have to worry about too much excitement distracting me from my studies. Any thoughts?

I haven't done THAT much exploring around here but I've yet to see a trailer, never mind an entire park of trailers. Certainly they exist somewhere around Phoenix, but I doubt there are any in the Glendale/Peoria area anywhere near school. Though, I did stumble across a couple of farms in the middle of town awhile back, so who knows...

I'm having a hard time finding apartments that don't have reviews complaining of frequent car break ins, I would think a trailer park would be even less secure, interesting idea tho. You should get an RV and just camp out in the school parking lot :)

Unfortunately, stuff like that is pretty endemic to the Phoenix-area. I know of at least one classmate who lives off-campus that had their apartment broken into since school's started and just last week another classmate's roommate in on-campus housing had their bike stolen in spite of the apartments being gated and having 24/7 security.

This is the second time ive read about AZCOM bikes being stolen. Are bikes common there? When I visited for an interview I didnt see anyone biking (I come from an undergrad campus with tons of bikers). Or are all of these people getting road bikes stolen that they use for recreation on weekends as opposed to transportation?

This is the second time ive read about AZCOM bikes being stolen. Are bikes common there? When I visited for an interview I didnt see anyone biking (I come from an undergrad campus with tons of bikers). Or are all of these people getting road bikes stolen that they use for recreation on weekends as opposed to transportation?

There's actually a decent mix of going-to-class bikers and recreational bikers, just most people that bike to class don't do it consistently (and they certainly aren't a huge population for the total campus) and most people that bike recreationally don't seem to bike to class. I'm not really sure which bikes have been the most common target, but from what I can tell, the people with the nice road bikes tend to not leave there's outside in the elements.

This is the second time ive read about AZCOM bikes being stolen. Are bikes common there? When I visited for an interview I didnt see anyone biking (I come from an undergrad campus with tons of bikers). Or are all of these people getting road bikes stolen that they use for recreation on weekends as opposed to transportation?

I ride my bike to school around 75% of the time and to my knowledge the other bikers I have talked to haven't had their bikes stolen (but I guess if they were stolen they wouldn't be bikers then would they). Just for reference, I do have a Giant TCR and I feel pretty comfortable leaving it locked up at school.

Also, the apartment complex I live at is about 5 miles from school and the only time my car was 'broken into' was when my wife forgot to lock the car overnight...

I'm having a hard time finding apartments that don't have reviews complaining of frequent car break ins, I would think a trailer park would be even less secure, interesting idea tho. You should get an RV and just camp out in the school parking lot :)

I was hoping that a trailer park would be even MORE secure. Not a trashy King of the Hill type trailer park but one for senior citizens who ride around on motorized scooters and play shuffle board.

Hello everyone,

Is PanOptic Welch Allyn ophthalmoscope really needed for ICM in 1st yr? Even though I will get a good discount from a 2nd yr student, it's still quite expensive.

Just wonder how many of you actually use it for ICM?

Thanks

Hello everyone,

Is PanOptic Welch Allyn ophthalmoscope really needed for ICM in 1st yr? Even though I will get a good discount from a 2nd yr student, it's still quite expensive.

Just wonder how many of you actually use it for ICM?

Thanks


Not necessary at all. Also, I'd hold off on buying any equipment until after you start class because the doctor teaching your ICM course will tell you what you need, don't need, and can get by with.

okay so i interviewed here last monday 4/4 and they told us the committee was meeting today and we would find out on the portal tomorrow...

well i just checked the portal and this "accepted student checklist" has now shown up but the deposit says $0 due and when i click on the matriculation agreement it tells me my info is currently being processed and to check back tomorrow. but does this mean i am finally in to a medical school?!

i know this was brought up some previous pages before but will someone confirm for me that this accepted student checklist really means i am accepted? thank you!

okay so i interviewed here last monday 4/4 and they told us the committee was meeting today and we would find out on the portal tomorrow...

well i just checked the portal and this "accepted student checklist" has now shown up but the deposit says $0 due and when i click on the matriculation agreement it tells me my info is currently being processed and to check back tomorrow. but does this mean i am finally in to a medical school?!

i know this was brought up some previous pages before but will someone confirm for me that this accepted student checklist really means i am accepted? thank you!

Your answer is in bold, the deposit and info will update in a day or two. Go celebrate. :thumbup:

okay so i interviewed here last monday 4/4 and they told us the committee was meeting today and we would find out on the portal tomorrow...

well i just checked the portal and this "accepted student checklist" has now shown up but the deposit says $0 due and when i click on the matriculation agreement it tells me my info is currently being processed and to check back tomorrow. but does this mean i am finally in to a medical school?!

i know this was brought up some previous pages before but will someone confirm for me that this accepted student checklist really means i am accepted? thank you!

Congrats!!! Welcome to the Class of 2015

I remember it was a really cool feeling to see that checklist appear and to know I was accepted. Congratulations!

thanks everyone for the quick responses! is there a facebook group for the class of 2015 already set up?

http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php...58051064214073 (http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=158051064214073)

It seems as if some people are already talking about required books/equipment for fall semester. I've looked around and can't seem to locate this list. Could someone please point me in the right direction? Thanks!

It seems as if some people are already talking about required books/equipment for fall semester. I've looked around and can't seem to locate this list. Could someone please point me in the right direction? Thanks!

Don't worry about it until, at the earliest, late summer. Supply lists for next year aren't even available yet.

just got accepted last night! yay!

i want to do on-campus housing...is it too late?
if not, how do I go about applying?

thanks!

My group was interviewed on the 8 - We find out thurs/fri.

just got accepted last night! yay!

i want to do on-campus housing...is it too late?
if not, how do I go about applying?

thanks!

I don't think it was too late. During our tour they said some units were still available.

Don't worry about it until, at the earliest, late summer. Supply lists for next year aren't even available yet.

Thanks. I'm not really worried about it, just trying to get a grasp on how much it's gonna cost and start keeping an eye out on facebook/craigslist/amazon.

just got accepted last night! yay!

i want to do on-campus housing...is it too late?
if not, how do I go about applying?

thanks!

At this point, you'll need to email Jose (the apartment manager).

At this point, you'll need to email Jose (the apartment manager).

do you have his email? I cannot find it online

thanks!

Has anyone from the 4/5 interview gotten any new info on the midwestern portal?

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Has anyone gotten rejected from AZCOM? do you know if they do notify you through the portal system or is it snail mail?

Has anyone gotten rejected from AZCOM? do you know if they do notify you through the portal system or is it snail mail?


Did they tell you when to expect the portal to change? I interviewed 4/8 and they told us to expect the portal to change thursday night or friday morning! Then they told us to call friday if there was no change.

decisions have been made, if there is not change in your portal it means you are either an alternate or that you were denied