BUT the website says "We begin making admission offers within 10 days following the completion of all interviews."


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Haha. I was going to bring that up.

BUT the website says "We begin making admission offers within 10 days following the completion of all interviews."


:(

Do you think they mean 10 days or 10 business days?
10 days = this Wednesday. If it's 10 business days, then we'll know by next Monday, the latest.

Then again, maybe they just didn't update the website to reflect this year's increased number of seats.

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lol

Do you think they mean 10 days or 10 business days?
10 days = this Wednesday. If it's 10 business days, then we'll know by next Monday, the latest.

Then again, maybe they just didn't update the website to reflect this year's increased number of seats.
Good point. I'm guessing 10 business days...

Do you think they mean 10 days or 10 business days?
10 days = this Wednesday. If it's 10 business days, then we'll know by next Monday, the latest.

Then again, maybe they just didn't update the website to reflect this year's increased number of seats.

I think it meant just general days. Which would fit the pattern of previous years where it's been less than 10 days.

But nooooooo not for us of course. :thumbdown

Forever waiting. :p

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18 members and 32 guests = 50 people viewing this forum :D

Does anyone know what time the office is open till? Should be stop waiting for today and focus on tomorrow?

No hope of getting the news today. Let us begin clicking like madmen again tomorrow morning.

Does anyone know what time the office is open till? Should be stop waiting for today and focus on tomorrow?
They are open till 4 Pm,

I think Margaret is a troll. She probably has us ranked but she won't tell us until she is satisfied with our suffering :meanie:

K it's after 4.

We're done. :(


Fingers crossed for tomorrow.

I think Margaret is a troll. She probably has us ranked but she won't tell us until she is satisfied with our suffering :meanie:

agreed

Well I just came home from work and checked my email and theres Nothing form UBC. Sigh....Still sketching about checking the email though.

And to those who think we have a 64-70% odds, ummmm you're dreaming.

By interview they make sure you have 50/50. Max 56% (400 interview) but not more. My 2 cents!!!:idea:

Well I just came home from work and checked my email and theres Nothing form UBC. Sigh....Still sketching about checking the email though.

And to those who think we have a 64-70% odds, ummmm you're dreaming.

By interview they make sure you have 50/50. Max 56% (400 interview) but not more. My 2 cents!!!:idea:

Odds could be anywhere between 56-64%. Unless they lied to us and interviewed 450 students to give us 50/50 odds of getting in. And if you consider roughly 10 people rejecting the offer for whatever reason, we have 59-67% chance of making it.

Well I just came home from work and checked my email and theres Nothing form UBC. Sigh....Still sketching about checking the email though.

And to those who think we have a 64-70% odds, ummmm you're dreaming.

By interview they make sure you have 50/50. Max 56% (400 interview) but not more. My 2 cents!!!:idea:

I don't know why they'd email us saying we will be sending out ~350 interview invitations and ~225 offers, if they were planning on interviewing 450.

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I don't know why they'd email us saying we will be sending out ~350 interview invitations and ~225 offers, if they were planning on interviewing 450.

Alright new proposal: they said 350 interviewed for 224 spots with possibly 234 offers made out. Then they would possibly waitlist 30 ish (with upper and lower waitlist ie. 15/15). Which means...

offer odds 234/350=67%
offer+waitlist (lower) =(234+15)/350=71%
offer+waitlist (upper)= (234+30)/350=75%

I know UofT makes 270 offers for 240 seats and puts 80 on waitlist with upper/lower of 40/40. So I'm making a fair assumption with this logic.

Again my 2 cents!!

quick, any more possible calculations we can make? any more probable timelines we can presume?! any more percentages pertaining to anything at all??

quick, any more possible calculations we can make? any more probable timelines we can presume?! any more percentages pertaining to anything at all??

there is a 100% chance I'm watching transformers on wednesday at 12am

happy? : D

Can a current UBC pharmacy student share what goes on in the white coat ceremony? :)

quick, any more possible calculations we can make? any more probable timelines we can presume?! any more percentages pertaining to anything at all??

Odds I'm Margaret?:ninja:

Can a current UBC pharmacy student share what goes on in the white coat ceremony? :)

Here's a lame answer to your question. http://www.pharmacy.ubc.ca/content/white-coat-ceremony

Here's a lame answer to your question. http://www.pharmacy.ubc.ca/content/white-coat-ceremony

Yea that was pretty lame lol. Thanks for looking it up though.

Odds I'm Margaret?:ninja:

LOl

..........and the waiting game starts over! Hope you all have a great day ~~

i realllly doubt it'll come out today

oh cool, i'm a 2+ year member now, why am i not thrilled about this..

I don't know why they'd email us saying we will be sending out ~350 interview invitations and ~225 offers, if they were planning on interviewing 450.

My letter actually said 400 interview invitations. Are you sure yours says 350? Are you reading the letter they sent out in February?

edit: Nevermind, I found the one they sent out later that does say 350.

My letter actually said 400 interview invitations. Are you sure yours says 350? Are you reading the letter they sent out in February?

edit: Nevermind, I found the one they sent out later that does say 350.

Okay... cause mac mail deleted all my emails before may. :(

Buttt yeah I don't remember the 400 email. I'm still gonna hope for 350 cause that's more recent.

During April and May:


Your Pharmacy application and reference letters are read and scored.
Your Pharmacy admissions average is calculated, by the Undergraduate Admissions Office in Enrolment Services.
Your PCAT score is matched with your application and recorded.
And, finally, based on these criteria, all applications are ranked, and approximately 350 applicants will be shortlisted for the interview process

Thanks for posting that!


And so they have all that done. So all they have to do is take the interview scores, input them in their acceptance formula and there it is.


That shouldn't take this long!

Thanks for posting that!


And so they have all that done. So all they have to do is take the interview scores, input them in their acceptance formula and there it is.


That shouldn't take this long!

Agreed! If anything, it should only have taken a day or so more to evaluate the borderline cases. It's been 6 business days! Maybe it'll come out today. :D

it's actually more complicated than simply putting the scores in, it turns out that they still deliberate, not just for borderline cases, but for every case

and i'm sure they double check everything again before sending the emails

it's actually more complicated than simply putting the scores in, it turns out that they still deliberate, not just for borderline cases, but for every case

and i'm sure they double check everything again before sending the emails

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Quite a reputation you built there, farm. Lol

There's still like 28 people on viewing this thread.

Makes me feel less crazy knowing I'm not the only one who's waiting at their computer until 4.

Thanks for answering, but would it be open for 2nd year classes in September 2012?

The answer is yes

It's projected to be completed and ready to run by then. The government is really pushing construction since there isnt enough space for 225 students in WOOD6, the pharmacy lecture hall

Incoming 1st years will be the guinea pigs to internet-based lectures, where you guys sit in a room and they broadcast you the lecture :P
I am hoping I enjoy the new building as soon as possible.

Chances are great for you guys. I mean, extra 75 seats....

If anyone needs 1st year books in advance after they get accepted, I am selling them for a good price =D

There's still like 28 people on viewing this thread.

Makes me feel less crazy knowing I'm not the only one who's waiting at their computer until 4.

Gladd? Ur listed as a pharmacy student? Did you get an acceptance letter from a school?

Gladd? Ur listed as a pharmacy student? Did you get an acceptance letter from a school?

Yeah, I got accepted to UofT. But still hoping on getting in here.

Lot at stake if I have to move away.

Yeah, I got accepted to UofT. But still hoping on getting in here.

Lot at stake if I have to move away.
Let's wait and see what Farm has to say about that lol.

Let's wait and see what Farm has to say about that lol.

Lol.... oh god.

OMG you are so lucky Gladd! you should really take this opportunity!

I want to meet farm in person, I bet he looks something like this:

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OMG you are so lucky Gladd! you should really take this opportunity!

Well if you say so!

I was just wondering if anyone here is from UBC and successfully applied to UT, meaning u had all the proper courses. If I dont get in I'm gonna try and satisfy their academic requirements next year and i wanna make sure i register for the proper 2nd year courses. Thanks!

I was just wondering if anyone here is from UBC and successfully applied to UT, meaning u had all the proper courses. If I dont get in I'm gonna try and satisfy their academic requirements next year and i wanna make sure i register for the proper 2nd year courses. Thanks!

Yeah, just got into UofT this year.

For second year courses...

Chem requirement... I took 233, 235, and 205.

Bio requirement... I took 200.

For Biochem requirement... I took Biol 201.

Statistics requirement... I took Stat 200.

Then humanities... I just took a 6 credit language course... I don't think they're too strict on that.

I'm not sure which of those classes they actually counted for the prereqs (the biology ones specifically). I was worried that I didn't have enough ochem for their requirements but I put chem 123, 233, 235, and it all worked out.

waiting is agony

Alright everyone, it seems like there won't be any email today either. Try again tomorrow :(

Well, that's annoying. Was really hoping they wouldn't draw things out like this. I guess I am still banking on Thursday. Actually, I would prefer it to be Thursday, simply because my spring course final is tomorrow night from 7-9 pm. I don't imagine I will feel much like writing it if I get rejected... and I would much rather celebrate if I get accepted.

Not to mention I keep reliving the interviews in more vivid detail each time.

Arrrrghhh.

What do you think are the chances of them drawing this out until next week?

Arrrrghhh.

What do you think are the chances of them drawing this out until next week?

I am pretty sure they will come out before Canada Day, it would just be cruel to make us wait that much longer. But who knows.

Well, that's annoying. Was really hoping they wouldn't draw things out like this. I guess I am still banking on Thursday. Actually, I would prefer it to be Thursday, simply because my spring course final is tomorrow night from 7-9 pm. I don't imagine I will feel much like writing it if I get rejected... and I would much rather celebrate if I get accepted.

Not to mention I keep reliving the interviews in more vivid detail each time.

Fixed. Lol

Fixed. Lol

Haha thanks. Clearly I am a shoe-in after that amazing display of writing skills.

If this waiting game is gonna last till next week,i will be dead by then :-(

Can a current UBC pharmacy student share what goes on in the white coat ceremony? :)

Nothing exciting.

Yeah. I thought it would be like a formal where you get to be all dressed up.

But isn't it just like a speech from the Dean and some lab coats?

With cookies and juice?

Thanks for the input gladd. Those are exactly the courses i'm prepared to register for if i dont get in to pharm this year. For humanities in taking 2 terms of psych tho. =P

gluglugs, if you are accepted this year, i highly recommend that you reject the offer and apply again next year. this way, you can finish a bunch of second year courses and have a much easier time when you get in the following year

gluglugs, if you are accepted this year, i highly recommend that you reject the offer and apply again next year. this way, you can finish a bunch of second year courses and have a much easier time when you get in the following year

lol. this ^^

solid advice.

Just a word of advice from a pharmacist…please research the profession that you’re going into. The thing that amazes me with students pursuing pharmacy is how unaware some of them are about the consequences of the legislation for regulated technicians. Please go see how many full-time positions in all of BC are available right now. It is almost HALF of what it use to be. The pharmacy chain I work for has stopped hiring pharmacists altogether. You can call this a transition period for hiring the newly trained regulated technicians. The thing that is important to know is that the model for operating a pharmacy has changed. It’s not necessary anymore to have 5-6 pharmacists employed at one pharmacy to process prescriptions. It is much cheaper in terms of operating a pharmacy to have regulated technicians transcribing and doing the final check. As a consequence, job growth for pharmacists is shrinking very rapidly, and there will not be enough jobs to accommodate all of the graduates. You can also imagine how having few job openings and lots of applicants can also reduce the wage that companies offer.

gluglugs, if you are accepted this year, i highly recommend that you reject the offer and apply again next year. this way, you can finish a bunch of second year courses and have a much easier time when you get in the following year

I must agree with this. You have to grow as a person first and learn more complicated stuff than a review of highschool. Reject right away and tell them, "I need to do 2nd year" Otherwise you will end up wondering what if. :thumbup:

Just a word of advice from a pharmacist…please research the profession that you’re going into. The thing that amazes me with students pursuing pharmacy is how unaware some of them are about the consequences of the legislation for regulated technicians. Please go see how many full-time positions in all of BC are available right now. It is almost HALF of what it use to be. The pharmacy chain I work for has stopped hiring pharmacists altogether. You can call this a transition period for hiring the newly trained regulated technicians. The thing that is important to know is that the model for operating a pharmacy has changed. It’s not necessary anymore to have 5-6 pharmacists employed at one pharmacy to process prescriptions. It is much cheaper in terms of operating a pharmacy to have regulated technicians transcribing and doing the final check. As a consequence, job growth for pharmacists is shrinking very rapidly, and there will not be enough jobs to accommodate all of the graduates. You can also imagine how having few job openings and lots of applicants can also reduce the wage that companies offer.

Thanks for the advice. ........ But I still want to be a pharmacist. Maybe I'll take your job.

Thanks for the advice. ........ But I still want to be a pharmacist. Maybe I'll take your job.

HA HA HA HA.

Gone are the days when a little to no competitive index can land you a very good paying job.

Just a word of advice from a pharmacist…please research the profession that you’re going into. The thing that amazes me with students pursuing pharmacy is how unaware some of them are about the consequences of the legislation for regulated technicians. Please go see how many full-time positions in all of BC are available right now. It is almost HALF of what it use to be. The pharmacy chain I work for has stopped hiring pharmacists altogether. You can call this a transition period for hiring the newly trained regulated technicians. The thing that is important to know is that the model for operating a pharmacy has changed. It’s not necessary anymore to have 5-6 pharmacists employed at one pharmacy to process prescriptions. It is much cheaper in terms of operating a pharmacy to have regulated technicians transcribing and doing the final check. As a consequence, job growth for pharmacists is shrinking very rapidly, and there will not be enough jobs to accommodate all of the graduates. You can also imagine how having few job openings and lots of applicants can also reduce the wage that companies offer.

I would look at this as an opportunity for improvement in this profession since from now on just having a degree won’t land you a job in a pharmacy.
We all have seen many pharmacists with zero interpersonal skills. Regulated technicians may put these kind of pharmacists’ jobs at risk.

You have to grow as a person first and learn more complicated stuff than a review of highschool. Reject right away and tell them, "I need to do 2nd year" Otherwise you will end up wondering what if. :thumbup:

wow PharMarley, you sound like you really know your stuff! people should really listen to you.

Just a word of advice from a pharmacist…please research the profession that you’re going into. The thing that amazes me with students pursuing pharmacy is how unaware some of them are about the consequences of the legislation for regulated technicians. Please go see how many full-time positions in all of BC are available right now. It is almost HALF of what it use to be. The pharmacy chain I work for has stopped hiring pharmacists altogether. You can call this a transition period for hiring the newly trained regulated technicians. The thing that is important to know is that the model for operating a pharmacy has changed. It’s not necessary anymore to have 5-6 pharmacists employed at one pharmacy to process prescriptions. It is much cheaper in terms of operating a pharmacy to have regulated technicians transcribing and doing the final check. As a consequence, job growth for pharmacists is shrinking very rapidly, and there will not be enough jobs to accommodate all of the graduates. You can also imagine how having few job openings and lots of applicants can also reduce the wage that companies offer.

This is true. The extra 75 seats is good for admission to the program, bad for job prospects all around (for new and current pharmacists). Might as well think twice about the profession you choose or aim for other avenues of pharmaceutical science (such as clinical, research, government, etc.).

This is true. The extra 75 seats is good for admission to the program, bad for job prospects all around (for new and current pharmacists). Might as well think twice about the profession you choose or aim for other avenues of pharmaceutical science (such as clinical, research, government, etc.).

Or even in pharmaceutical law, where you can actually make changes to what can/cannot pass in terms of granting regulated techs the authority to do as much as a pharmacist can, without the 4 years of schooling.

Just a word of advice from a pharmacist…please research the profession that you’re going into. The thing that amazes me with students pursuing pharmacy is how unaware some of them are about the consequences of the legislation for regulated technicians. Please go see how many full-time positions in all of BC are available right now. It is almost HALF of what it use to be. The pharmacy chain I work for has stopped hiring pharmacists altogether. You can call this a transition period for hiring the newly trained regulated technicians. The thing that is important to know is that the model for operating a pharmacy has changed. It’s not necessary anymore to have 5-6 pharmacists employed at one pharmacy to process prescriptions. It is much cheaper in terms of operating a pharmacy to have regulated technicians transcribing and doing the final check. As a consequence, job growth for pharmacists is shrinking very rapidly, and there will not be enough jobs to accommodate all of the graduates. You can also imagine how having few job openings and lots of applicants can also reduce the wage that companies offer.

This is just one of the initial steps in revamping our healthcare system and preparing it for the retirement of baby boomers. Nurses are being given prescribing rights and so too will pharmacists. The logistics need work, clearly there is too much stress on physicians in our system and they cannot handle it even now, what will happen in 15 years? Pharmacists will one day use drug therapy through direct contact with patients to slash costs across the board; fewer people in the ER, doctor's offices, spreading diseases etc. (based on contact with many healthcare professionals).

Edit: If I don't see this change by the time I'm a pharmacist, I will personally start some type of movement. Kind of like a freedom fighter but for change in the healthcare system.

After all, pharmacists know more about all drugs than anyone else. If I had to pick who prescribed for me, I'd take a good pharmer over a physician any day.

I would look at this as an opportunity for improvement in this profession since from now on just having a degree won’t land you a job in a pharmacy.
We all have seen many pharmacists with zero interpersonal skills. Regulated technicians may put these kind of pharmacists’ jobs at risk.

lol don't get too excited that your interpersonal skills will land you jobs left and right. If the worst case scenerio does happen it will most likely hurt new grads, no matter what their skills. Last ones in, first ones out.

Companies would rather take the impersonal loner who's been working as a pharmacist for 20 years rather than some fresh grad. This is always the case. Not to mention companies can't just hire and fire people as they please, there's certain procedures in place. When a company makes cutbacks they usually institute a hiring freeze and then they don't fill positions of people who retire/quit.

This is just one of the initial steps in revamping our healthcare system and preparing it for the retirement of baby boomers. Nurses are being given prescribing rights and so too will pharmacists. The logistics need work, clearly there is too much stress on physicians in our system and they cannot handle it even now, what will happen in 15 years? Pharmacists will one day use drug therapy through direct contact with patients to slash costs across the board; fewer people in the ER, doctor's offices, spreading diseases etc. (based on contact with many healthcare professionals).

Edit: If I don't see this change by the time I'm a pharmacist, I will personally start some type of movement. Kind of like a freedom fighter but for change in the healthcare system.

After all, pharmacists know more about all drugs than anyone else. If I had to pick who prescribed for me, I'd take a good pharmer over a physician any day.

Word. Physicians should diagnose and pharmacists should prescribe. That's how you truly maximize the strengths of each profession, as opposed to the current system.

like yesterday, i am very sure the emails wont be sent today

Just a word of advice from a pharmacist…please research the profession that you’re going into. The thing that amazes me with students pursuing pharmacy is how unaware some of them are about the consequences of the legislation for regulated technicians. Please go see how many full-time positions in all of BC are available right now. It is almost HALF of what it use to be. The pharmacy chain I work for has stopped hiring pharmacists altogether. You can call this a transition period for hiring the newly trained regulated technicians. The thing that is important to know is that the model for operating a pharmacy has changed. It’s not necessary anymore to have 5-6 pharmacists employed at one pharmacy to process prescriptions. It is much cheaper in terms of operating a pharmacy to have regulated technicians transcribing and doing the final check. As a consequence, job growth for pharmacists is shrinking very rapidly, and there will not be enough jobs to accommodate all of the graduates. You can also imagine how having few job openings and lots of applicants can also reduce the wage that companies offer.

What are the job prospects like in hospitals?

like yesterday, i am very sure the emails wont be sent today

Why is that?

Word. Physicians should diagnose and pharmacists should prescribe. That's how you truly maximize the strengths of each profession, as opposed to the current system.

How would that work exactly? What if you don't respond to treatment, would you go to your Doctor for another diagnosis or your Pharmacist for another drug? What if there's a disagreement between the two? Are pharmacists even trained to diagnose improvements in patient outcome?

Does anyone know when student loans are due?

I don't know what to do cause if I get into UBC, I don't need or want to take on a student loan. But if I have to go to UofT then i'll need to.

What do I do? :S

Does anyone know when student loans are due?

I don't know what to do cause if I get into UBC, I don't need or want to take on a student loan. But if I have to go to UBC then i'll need to.

What do I do? :S

second ubc = uoft?

You are right.., we need to find out ASAP for the sake of applying for student loans as well!

second ubc = uoft?

You are right.., we need to find out ASAP for the sake of applying for student loans as well!

Haha yeah. Fixed it. Oops.


And I know... come on UBC. Do it todaayyy.

Admission offers sent out just now!

Really?

I'm in!

This is just one of the initial steps in revamping our healthcare system and preparing it for the retirement of baby boomers. Nurses are being given prescribing rights and so too will pharmacists. The logistics need work, clearly there is too much stress on physicians in our system and they cannot handle it even now, what will happen in 15 years? Pharmacists will one day use drug therapy through direct contact with patients to slash costs across the board; fewer people in the ER, doctor's offices, spreading diseases etc. (based on contact with many healthcare professionals).

Edit: If I don't see this change by the time I'm a pharmacist, I will personally start some type of movement. Kind of like a freedom fighter but for change in the healthcare system.

After all, pharmacists know more about all drugs than anyone else. If I had to pick who prescribed for me, I'd take a good pharmer over a physician any day.

totally agreed. if people aren't willing to take the time to truly understand and revolutionize the inner workings of their profession, especially when people are starting to worry about saturation of basic pharmacist jobs in metropolitan areas then they really need to reconsider what they wanna do.

Word. Physicians should diagnose and pharmacists should prescribe. That's how you truly maximize the strengths of each profession, as opposed to the current system.

Exactly. Health care providers need to work together and figure out a way to minimize a way of alleviating the strains on the system without stepping on each other's toes. It'll be harder than it looks, but that's what has to be done.

Does anyone know when student loans are due?

I don't know what to do cause if I get into UBC, I don't need or want to take on a student loan. But if I have to go to UofT then i'll need to.

What do I do? :S


I am also freaking out about this. No matter where I get accepted (also applying to U of A but don't have high hopes) I'll have to move to a different city and apply for student loans. It would be really nice to get my crap together sooner than later.

And with that, I am also in!

They finally sent the admission offers!!! Hope to see you all in September! :)

nvm

Got in :)

Guess I'm out..


no email.

do they send the declined emails at the same time?

Just got it! Does anyone know if we have to somehow reply that we are accepting the offer, or would they just assume we're taking it if we dont decline. I'm not sure what I have to do now since it doesnt sound like we have to reply from what the email says. And congratz to everyone who got in, and for those who didn't receive it yet it might always come later!

Guess I'm out..


no email.

You said you were accepted to U of T?

In all seriousness, I am under the impression that U of T offers a new integrated PharmD program of some sort starting this year. That's definitely going to be to your benefit so this may work out in your favor.

Well I'm at work and I GOT IN. Time to reject UofT offer:biglove::boom::boom::boom:

Im in too guys! Looking forward to meeting you all in September!:)

I just got in! yay! so unbelievably happy right now=)=)

In!!!!

You said you were accepted to U of T?

In all seriousness, I am under the impression that U of T offers a new integrated PharmD program of some sort starting this year. That's definitely going to be to your benefit so this may work out in your favor.

Yeah I guess. It's gonna be expensive though. And I am leaving a lot behind here...

****. :(

Have rejections been sent out?

Don't give up too early, Gladd, need to wait for a confirmation letter. If you haven't received anything yet, you may be on the WL (or if your email provider is Yahoo!, it may be horrendously slow...).

YEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!
IM IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:love::love::laugh::laugh::laugh::clap::soexcited: :soexcited:
time to parrtty!!!

now where the class of 2015 facebook page?

I M INNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone cried????

I GOT IN TOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :soexcited: :soexcited:

P.S. If you need Dr. Collins PCAT Prep, Kaplan, Cliffs 5 full-length PCAT, LET ME KNOW !!!!!

:claps: :highfive: :claps:

Got a waitlisted email.

Does anyone know on average how many people get waitlisted and how many get in off of that? I wish they would tell us our numbers.

Sorry for being a downer in this thread. Congrats to everyone who did get in!

OMG i got in UBC!!!!!!!!!!! was so pessimistic about it being from out of province too! looking forward to meeting you all!!!

im so excited right now that im having trouble reading the admission offer email:laugh: so does anyone know how do we accept the offer ?:xf:

I got in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG!!!!!!!! UBC PHARMACY CLASS OF 2015!!!!! :thumbup:

Do we have to pay a registration deposit and when do we choose the STT? (Is it during July 18-21)

Do we have to pay a registration deposit and when do we choose the STT? (Is it during July 18-21)
It still says my application is under review in SSC, so I guess no registration deposit yet. And yes, we choose STT from 18th to 21st.

sooooo did anyone make a facebook group yet? i dun wanna check this site anymore every hour =P

sooooo did anyone make a facebook group yet? i dun wanna check this site anymore every hour =P
Nope, waiting for someone to make one. I would've made it but I'm not a facebook expert :p

I got in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG!!!!!!!! This is unbelievable. And yes my eyes watered up pretty good. I've always wanted to be a pharmacist and had given up hope after the stupidity I pulled in first year. This is actually my third time applying. For those who did not get in this year, DONT GIVE UP!! I know how it feels to get rejected again and again but once you see the email that I saw today, you'll forget everything and start screaming "YES!!!" repeatedly while fist pumping. Congratulations to everyone who got in. I can't wait to see you all in September. UBC PHARMACY CLASS OF 2015!!!!! :thumbup:

COSIGN 100%. In addition to first year stupidity, I managed to lower the bar some more with a bare 50% in CHEM 233. But yes, determination and eventual, albeit unnecessarily delayed, maturation does pay off. See you in September!
(Another 4 years though, yikes!)

Anybody with information on the waitlist? What are my chances of getting in off of it?

Anybody with information on the waitlist? What are my chances of getting in off of it?


Same boat.

Anyone??

WOOOOOO I GOT IN !@#~@#!@$!@%#@%@t^@

LOL, and I just saw the email after failing my driving road test!@#!@#!

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAA

*happy dance*

I'LL SEE ALL YOU AWESOME PEOPLE IN SEPTEMBER!!!!!!!!

Anybody with information on the waitlist? What are my chances of getting in off of it?
I've heard roughly 8-10 people got in last year. This year should be more because higher number of seats = more rejections. I would guess 12-15 people but don't take my word for it. Good luck :xf:

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when is the deadline to accept offers?

when is the deadline to accept offers?
You'll find this useful:

Please note that registration open dates for 1st year Pharmacy students are July 18th to July 21st. The Undergraduate Admissions Office in Enrolment Services will begin processing your admission later next week (and it may take some days for them to complete the process – please be patient). Once your admission has been processed, you can check your registration date on the SSC (Student Service Centre) and, after that, you will receive an official admission letter from the Undergraduate Admissions Office.

So it's going to be a while before we can officially accept the offer. Students can start rejecting right away though.

You'll find this useful:

Please note that registration open dates for 1st year Pharmacy students are July 18th to July 21st. The Undergraduate Admissions Office in Enrolment Services will begin processing your admission later next week (and it may take some days for them to complete the process – please be patient). Once your admission has been processed, you can check your registration date on the SSC (Student Service Centre) and, after that, you will receive an official admission letter from the Undergraduate Admissions Office.

So it's going to be a while before we can officially accept the offer. Students can start rejecting right away though.


thanks :o

Anybody with information on the waitlist? What are my chances of getting in off of it?

I was on the waitlist last year and didn't even get notified about it until a few days after the acceptances were sent out! Just hang tight and try to stay positive. I'm not sure how many people get in off of the waitlist and I don't want to speculate because I have no idea. I waited until the end of August and was then rejected. It really vaires year to year, but now that there is a larger amount of seats, the list should, in theory, move a bit faster than in past years. Try to stay positive!

Nope, waiting for someone to make one. I would've made it but I'm not a facebook expert :p

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_183072461748474

^ lmao i just made one. Please join, having one person in a group is very sketch.

when is the deadline to accept offers?

Do you think they'd tell us how many people are on the waitlist if we emailed?

I'm assuming not.

IN! Look forward to meeting you guys!

Also, like everyone else has said, DON'T GIVE UP. I didn't even get an interview last year!

Hey,

How many of you guys are in province? How many are out of province?

In! See you guys in September! :)

Do you think they'd tell us how many people are on the waitlist if we emailed?

I'm assuming not.

Email said "not at this time", I'm just going to give them a call 2 weeks from now and see how it goes. Good luck to the both of us :laugh:.

Until then I'll start planning for next year, anyone know any classes I can take to bring up my GPA for ubc pharmacy? It's currently 77%, and I know I can do much better because I've half-assed every single class, learning everything at home right before finals/midterms.

PCAT was 80%ile, also half assed, had a lot of volunteer work including in two pharmacies. I thought interview went well also. I guess my GPA is my problem here and maybe this will be a wake up call for me. Might take the PCAT again just in case.

No more of this
http://i.imgur.com/73Jxo.png

Do you think they'd tell us how many people are on the waitlist if we emailed?

I'm assuming not.


They didn't last year apparently, so you're probably right. Regardless, I think you have a pretty decent chance of getting in. Lurked on this forum for quite a few months now and based on your postings, I would rank you closer to the top of the WL. Best of luck!

Yeee; In lol

Until then I'll start planning for next year, anyone know any classes I can take to bring up my GPA for ubc pharmacy? It's currently 77%, and I know I can do much better because I've half-assed every single class, learning everything at home right before finals/midterms.

PCAT was 80%ile, also half assed, had a lot of volunteer work including in two pharmacies. I thought interview went well also. I guess my GPA is my problem here and maybe this will be a wake up call for me. Might take the PCAT again just in case.


Wouldn't worry too much about the GPA, average of the admitted class is around 80% every year. Recommend STAT200 or 203, ANAT390/391 if you haven't done those. If you like multiple choice exams, do MICB202 or PHYL301. Or, try re-taking courses outside of UBC (Langara or what not...)

PCAT can be improved a bit, I did roughly the same as you, but it never hurts to get around 85 (the admitted class percentile) to 90.

Sweeeeeeeeeet, got in :D

Got in too.

Should we post our stats so future applicants can get an idea of what to expect?

Until then I'll start planning for next year, anyone know any classes I can take to bring up my GPA for ubc pharmacy? It's currently 77%, and I know I can do much better because I've half-assed every single class, learning everything at home right before finals/midterms.

PCAT was 80%ile, also half assed, had a lot of volunteer work including in two pharmacies. I thought interview went well also. I guess my GPA is my problem here and maybe this will be a wake up call for me. Might take the PCAT again just in case.


That depends, how many of the prerequisites have you taken because that's all they look at. Increasing your pcat might help, but your GPA looks fine. It may have been your interview...I got in and currently sit at a 73

They didn't last year apparently, so you're probably right. Regardless, I think you have a pretty decent chance of getting in. Lurked on this forum for quite a few months now and based on your postings, I would rank you closer to the top of the WL. Best of luck!

Thanks! My GPA isn't anything to be proud of though. :( And I think I messed up my interview. So I dunno... let's hope so.

I havn't seen anyone here get a rejection, I hope they're not like waitlisting everyone who didn't get a spot.

So just in case I'm reading the e-mail wrong. If we ACCEPT the offer, we don't need to e-mail Margaret anything, right?

Got in too.

Should we post our stats so future applicants can get an idea of what to expect?

I think we should.

Pre-req: 79%
Overall: 82%
4th year student
Pharm experience: 6 months (2 pharmacies)
PCAT: 91 (99 chem)

Applied: Waterloo, UBC, UofA
Accepted: Waterloo, UBC
Pending: UofA

going to: UBC!

Thanks! My GPA isn't anything to be proud of though. :( And I think I messed up my interview. So I dunno... let's hope so.

I havn't seen anyone here get a rejection, I hope they're not like waitlisting everyone who didn't get a spot.

Don't worry, not proud of what happened to my marks after first-year, but work with what you have. As people keep telling me, as long as you were being yourself during the interviews, you'll end up doing alright, even if you don't feel that way after walking out of the room.

And about posting a rejection, it's not the "funnest" thing to do, so people tend to just ignore posting it. Either that, or they haven't been all sent out yet. Acceptance or rejection, it's all just a learning experience.

So just in case I'm reading the e-mail wrong. If we ACCEPT the offer, we don't need to e-mail Margaret anything, right?

Yes.

Don't worry, not proud of what happened to my marks after first-year, but work with what you have. As people keep telling me, as long as you were being yourself during the interviews, you'll end up doing alright, even if you don't feel that way after walking out of the room.

And about posting a rejection, it's not the "funnest" thing to do, so people tend to just ignore posting it. Either that, or they haven't been all sent out yet. Acceptance or rejection, it's all just a learning experience.

Yeah thanks. I'll try to keep my hopes up. At least I still have UofT, I guess.

Yeah thanks. I'll try to keep my hopes up. At least I still have UofT, I guess.

I wouldn't go worrying about UoT too early, give it a few days :) Doesn't hurt to start planning just in case, but you know...

Just curious, did those that get accepted get their emails at 12:03 pm?

I wouldn't go worrying about UoT too early, give it a few days :) Doesn't hurt to start planning just in case, but you know...

Yeah... hopefully. I think I'm gonna have to start planning though since Pharm registration here isn't over until the 21st... I probably won't find out about the waiting list until after that right? What do you think?

That would be cutting it short... and would leave me with a month to find an apartment in TO, student loan, etc.

:eek:

Just curious, did those that get accepted get their emails at 12:03 pm?

I'll say 12-12:05, depending on your email provider.

Yeah... hopefully. I think I'm gonna have to start planning though since Pharm registration here isn't over until the 21st... I probably won't find out about the waiting list until after that right? What do you think?

That would be cutting it short... and would leave me with a month to find an apartment in TO, student loan, etc.

:eek:

I would imagine Margaret sending out emails in bulk each week..? Med schools seem to do that, but not too sure about that. Maybe another bulk of new offers tomorrow or Monday?

But doesn't hurt to look into the classified now, what could be more exciting ;). Just have everything ready to go incase you need to utilize your back-up plan.

I think we should.

Pre-req: 79%
Overall: 82%
4th year student
Pharm experience: 6 months (2 pharmacies)
PCAT: 91 (99 chem)

Applied: Waterloo, UBC, UofA
Accepted: Waterloo, UBC
Pending: UofA

going to: UBC!

Im stuck on that decision too Tarnc! I got to make a decision on Waterloo or UBC.

Waterloo's program is so nice cuz they got coop and its really integrated-.-, but UBC pharmacy has a long history and many of the cool pharmacists are here in Van -/- i come to a crossroad ..........

Im stuck on that decision too Tarnc! I got to make a decision on Waterloo or UBC.

Waterloo's program is so nice cuz they got coop and its really integrated-.-, but UBC pharmacy has a long history and many of the cool pharmacists are here in Van -/- i come to a crossroad ..........

Go to Waterloo. ;)

Just kidding.

I think Waterloo has a better program, to be honest.

But it wouldn't be worth moving across the country to me, in my opinion.

So I would pick UBC over it.

But I guess it depends on what you value more.

I'll say 12-12:05, depending on your email provider.

Oh, okay. Makes sense.

For future applicants, here are my stats. (Reading up on other peoples stats last year really helped me with the whole application process)

Pre-Req GPA: 85% (I got this raised by choosing not to write the pcat and focusing on my pre-reqs)
PCAT: 74% (I chose not to re-write it again so I could focus on my Pre-reqs)
Pharmacy Experience: Zero
Other Experience: Hospital, Work
Interview: Thought I did okay. In my honest opinion, you can't really practice for this. Watch movies, learn some general themes, and become a social butterfly throughout the year. Your ability to communicate effectively and clearly (which you can only gain with time) is the most important, in my opinion.
Application: I had my essays edited at least 50 times. I think they're very important. It's one of your few chances to sell yourself in written form. I also did not fill in every single tab for hobbies, community involvement, etc. I only put the ones that I thought were indicative of who I really was. Honesty is key.
References: I had two wonderful references (I had only known both for 2 months).

Good luck to everyone that's planning to apply in the future! If you need help with anything, don't hesitate to private message. :)

Interview: Thought I did okay. In my honest opinion, you can't really practice for this. Watch movies, learn some general themes, and become a social butterfly throughout the year. Your ability to communicate effectively and clearly (which you can only gain with time) is the most important, in my opinion.

I thought this was written beautifully (and truthfully). Just had to quote it again :D. For future applicants, read this carefully and understand what it means fully. Interpersonal skills :thumbup:

I thought this was written beautifully (and truthfully). Just had to quote it again :D. For future applicants, read this carefully and understand what it means fully. Interpersonal skills :thumbup:

Many different skills are required; First and foremost, interpersonal skills are a necessity, without it you are better off counselling yourself in a dark room lol.

Gatta have great leadership and teamwork skills, blah blah all that stuff that would make you an awesome pharmy

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Im stuck on that decision too Tarnc! I got to make a decision on Waterloo or UBC.

Waterloo's program is so nice cuz they got coop and its really integrated-.-, but UBC pharmacy has a long history and many of the cool pharmacists are here in Van -/- i come to a crossroad ..........

The Waterloo program is very enticing and if I had to choose between UofA and Waterloo, I would've gone there.
It's just much cheaper for me to study at UBC along with my girlfriend being here, it wasn't too hard of a choice to make in the end :)

Alright guys, I made our group on FB called UBC Pharmacy Class of 2015!

feel free to join

helloo. i have been secretly stalking the thread... haha thought I'd post since I got in :) I'll post my stats to help future candidates out

Pre-req: 79%
PCAT: 77%
4th year student
Experience: 2 yrs of pharmacy work, 3 months of pharm volunteer
Applied to UoT and UBC (Accepted at both)

I think interview is key for pharmacy. Since I'm a fourth year student, my pre-req GPA was stuck at 79% so I chose to focus on interview. I practiced every week for an entire year (I kid you not). I believe you can practice, but it will require a lot of time and commitment. Have confidence and learn to communicate clearly and effectively. Show them that you are THE candidate of choice :)

Good luck to latter pharmacist-to-bes!

Alright guys, I made our group on FB called UBC Pharmacy Class of 2015!

feel free to join

I think someone already made one. Same name as yours, without the "!".

I'll say 12-12:05, depending on your email provider.


Mine was 11:58

Congrats new pharmies! :D

Ahhh, I wanted to post to this forum ages ago but kept getting log in glitches! :mad: Came home today, checked my email... and got the acceptance! YAYYYY :D SO, I was determined to log in this time to post, no matter what, lol (worked on the 3rd try!)

Congratulations to everyone else who got their acceptance today! Can't wait to meet you guys! For those of you who haven't received their letter yet, don't give up!

IP, B.Sc., 3rd time applying
GPA: 76 (C+ in BIOC300, B- in PHYL301, all pre-requisites done)
PCAT: 83 (only studied a few hours for this...)
ECs: Pharmacy volunteer/tech for 3 years, LT-resident care, Chemical education research, UG lab assistant

Play to your strengths. If you need to improve on your interpersonal skills, then do it. Don't sit around and hope it'll improve on its own.

As for interview times, if you're not a morning person, don't pick a morning time. You're going to be half-awake (no matter how much adrenaline is rushing through you) and half-thinking... I was ranked 274 out of 280 applicants after the interview portion last year, so I would know. You can practice for the MMIs if you want, I didn't, but it seems like a good portion of individuals here did, so do as you please... just remember that during the interview, you'll want to refrain from sounding like a machine giving out a memorized response.

Regardless of whether you practice or not, I suggest you reflect a bit on what you've done over the past few years, experiences you've taken as a learning tool and what not.

Mine was 11:58

Dang, I guess 11:55 - 12:05 then :D

Stats:

Second time applicant (ranked number 200 during last years app cycle)

OOP Applicant (just finishing up my undergrad in Biological Science at the U of C)

GPA: Did pretty awful in my first two years due to not knowing how to study, so my pre-req GPA is probably around a 3.1 on a 4.0 system (not sure how that it equates to UBC's percentage system, but when I applied last year I think it was around 73-ish). However, i have also taken pretty much every other first year course in the pharmacy program including organic, physiology, microbiology, statistics, and anatomy (at least I really hope that they transfer over :xf:). Anyway, right now I am cumulatively around a 3.36 with much higher (3.5-3.8 in the last few semesters).

PCAT: Wrote in January of 3rd year and got 87 composite with minimal prep (just focused on math and chem since I rock at writing and verbal ability and bio).

Pharmacy Experience: Worked in an independent compounding pharmmacy for 5.5 years with about 3.5 to 4 of those being strictly a pharmacy assistant (did stints as cashier and postal clerk) and recently also doing some office work like the bank deposit.

Volunteer: A little with the Calgary International Film Festival and a couple open house events around school.

Reference Letters: Both from pharmacists, one being the owner of the store and my boss, the other being the one that I have worked with the most and look up to. They both also wrote references for my failed application last year.

Personal Statements: Same ones as last year with a little tweaking.

Interview: This was my second time applying and i got an interview last time and I think this is where I fell short last time because I seriously submitted pretty much the exact same stats last year. Finishing my degree probably also helped compensate for a low GPA. Either way, I didn't practice or anything but I did spend a lot of time reflecting deeply on my life experience and researching the health care industry. At the end of the day it is your communication skills and ability to think on your feet and apply life experiences to the questions they ask you that wins you a good interview score.

So that sums it up. I would definitely say don't give up to all those who are rejected this year. I was in the same boat last year with some pretty modest stats and it all worked out :cool:

Congratz to my pharmies! See you guys in september!:D

Heres my stats for those that are interested:
GPA: 82%
Pcat: 85 percentile (99 in bio, chem, 95 in math but got owned on verbal and reading:scared::scared:)

interview: I knew I did awful in the acting station, but all other stations went pretty well. Definitely practice mock interviews with friends and how to utilize the 2 min transition time to think about how to anser the question in a coherent manner.

ECs: nothing pharmacy related, hospital and community volunteering, sport teams, research, part time jobs here and there.

I think probably 30+ ppl already said this but I got in!! :D I thought for sure I fudged up my interviews cause I was so stumped in one of the questions but yay! :D congrats to everyone! And for the ppl that went to the Saturday mock mmi every week and slaved away with the questions....we earned this!!

Congrats, everyone.

Used to check this forum religiously and it's helped me considerably so I hope my first post here will be as constructive.

Applying as OOP and first year

GPA: 3.9 and a bit on the 4.0 scale

PCAT: 88

Get the Dr. Collin's package and try to cram as much of that **** into your head as possible. It WILL help. Having exposed yourself to that material is like being on steroids. You will be at SO MUCH of an advantage relative to the rest of the PCAT test takers.

ECs: Volunteering here and there (senior home, community center, high school website, nothing spectacular).

Interviews: I honestly can't remember how it went. The interviewers are all human. They certainly aren't out there to get you. If you've lived this long and you are applying for pharmacy, I'm sure you are eloquent enough to hold a conversation. People approach this as if they were preparing some grandiose speech meant to convert an atheist into a raging Christian. No, that is not the point. They just want to see if you are a capable enough individual who can stand up for your point of view and rationalize the logic behind your arguments.

I'm not sure if this advice will work out for everyone but I think I was better off not really preparing methodically as everyone else seems to have done here. It's much easier to "freestyle" on the spot; takes a lot of stress off your mind. You tend to be more natural as well. Of course, the effect of practice is probably positive for most people. I practiced just once with a friend and it kind of struck a bad cord with my nerves; psyched me out and didn't really help tremendously. The fact of the matter is that oratory skills can't be established with a few practice sessions.

Of course, take that with a grain of salt. Extensive preparation may work for you because the interview is the component with the biggest margin of flexibility. It all depends on the individual.

Lastly, my advice is to just try (as absolutely cheesy and useless that may sound). You WILL get in, if you are determined enough. Trying for pharmacy has taught me that even a lazy ass like me can beast myself up to be quite diligent, so I'm sure everyone else will be able to as well.

It's been a ride. Cheers to the class of 2015!

For future applicants:

GPA: 76%
PCAT: 94th percentile

ECs: full-time job at a pharmacy for 1 year, community volunteering (SPCA, Cancer Society etc.), and sports. Got my references from the pharmacy manager and another pharmacist I worked with.

Misc: this was my second time applying and I also live in northern BC (I'm not too convinced that UBC even cares about underserved communities, but still... lol)

Interview: I felt so-so walking out of it, but as soon as I was off the adrenaline rush, I had serious doubts. Began to feel that a lot of my answers could have been more detailed and thought-out, but I guess it worked out in the end.

Congrats to those accepted, enjoy the rest of your summer and see you all in Sept!

after thinking about this for a long time, i have decided to accept ubc pharmacy. i will allow the faculty and all of you to be graced by my presence.
.. so should i congratulate the faculty during the white coat ceremony or later?

after thinking about this for a long time, i have decided to accept ubc pharmacy. i will allow the faculty and all of you to be graced by my presence.
.. so should i congratulate the faculty during the white coat ceremony or later?

I say during the ceremony :D lolol.

after thinking about this for a long time, i have decided to accept ubc pharmacy. i will allow the faculty and all of you to be graced by my presence.
.. so should i congratulate the faculty during the white coat ceremony or later?

Farm, how many times have you applied for Pharmacy? You seem so carefree!

Well now lets figure out how to pay for this thing

And with that, I am also in!

Congrats lllix. I read somewhere you were very close last year.

And Congrats everyone.

I love ubc and will reject uoft based soley on the fact that ubc knows who I am. Their application process is the best and they try to understand everyone rather than looking at PCAT and cGPA.

Hi guys, anyone know when is the deadline to submit immunization form? :love:

Hey, thought i'd share my stats and some interview advice for future applicants.

My pre-req average: 83%
PCAT: 80

Volunteering: volunteered in multiple positions for the last 2 years at the hospital, random volunteering (camps etc) and no pharmacy experience other than shadowing

Main ECs: piano, drums, karate

Application: worked the weekend on both statements. Really try to convey your knowledge of the profession, your motivation and passion for pharmacy and why you will be an ethical, successful and competed pharmacist (this can be for a number of ways, but I did mine through personal experience and minor reference to academics)

Interview: I took about 4 or 5 days to prepare for the interview. I started by reading up on current Pharmacy news, where the profession is headed, and what kind of movement is being made to support these changes (ex, BC medication management project). As well, I discussed a lot of healthcare issues with my mom, an RN (I really recommend speaking with a healthcare professional about what they feel some major issues are within the healthcare system).

Coming up with a structured response within the 2 minutes is also important. Making sure you dont ramble is a plus! What I liked to do is ce up with a general statement, and then a few points I could really expand on through anecdotes from volunteering, work and personal experiences (all good things to think about beforehand; demonstrating your critical thinking and logical reasoning is important as the interviewers want to know how you think!). On a side note, none of your answers should sound contrived and anecdotes are used situationally (but thinking about them before had is important so you can draw upon them).

As a last note, just be yourself! I looked at as each station as a puzzle or challenge which made it a lot of fun. Smiling and shaking hands is also
important! Having a generally friendly and enthusiastic demeanor puts interviewers at ease, and the more they like you the more likely you'll score well! Finally, relax and you'll do great :)

yay
got in too
status: GPA 79
pcat :92
interview:great
1 year of pharmacy job
2 great reference letters and essays

Grats guys. Feels good seeing that offer of acceptance email especially after my failed interview last year. Haha

Gpa 79ish
Pcat 92

Ecs pharmacy volunteering, clubs, hospice volunteering

I felt a bit iffy about my interviews, but I think one key thing I did was that I left most of the interviewers smiling at the end.

Good luck future applicants!

You guys can choose to accept your offer of admission on ubc ssc now.

hey guys. how do we request to view our interview ranking? or do they just come in the mail automatically?

I am in btw!! YEEEEEEEEEEEESS WOOOOOT

You guys can choose to accept your offer of admission on ubc ssc now.

Do you guys have like a deadline for that?

hey guys. how do we request to view our interview ranking? or do they just come in the mail automatically?

I am in btw!! YEEEEEEEEEEEESS WOOOOOT

Won't be able to see your ranking if you were accepted. Confirmation of admission comes in the mail, bout it.


Do you guys have like a deadline for that?

September 1st, long ways to go

Hey guys. Long time lurker and I gotta say thank you to all the regular posters who've helped keep me sane!!

I just got in too :) SO stoked!

It was my first time applying, after finishing 2 years of sciences in Microbiology and Immunology. I applied to UBC and U of A, with the U of A decision still pending. I am going to attend UBC.

Stats:
GPA: 81.4%

PCAT: 96th percentile. I had the Kaplan PCAT guide (selling if anyone wants it haha). I didn't really touch it except to skim over the practise exams to get a feel for the structure of the exam. I honestly don't know how I scored so well because I walked out of the exam feeling sure that I'd have to retake it.

EC's:
- 6 week paid internship in a clinical pharmacy
- 2 summer's worth of volunteering at the Cross Cancer Institute in Edmonton
- 2 years volunteering as an ESL teacher
- various other volunteer positions (summer camps, festivals, etc)

References/application: I could've spent more time writing and editing my essays tbh. My references were both high school teachers, which was kind of my last resort.

Interview: I felt really good walking out of it. I prepared by reading a lot about the development of the MMI, including literature research, which provided great sample questions. I did some reading about bioethics as well as current events surrounding the healthcare system. I didn't do any practising in front of the mirror. I didn't want to psyche myself out or sound too rehearsed. I greeted every interviewer with a smile and a handshake--never underestimate a firm handshake!

I hope this helps future applicants and to this year's cycle, I can't wait to meet you all in September!

I tried nabbing STT-D, but it wasn't to be just yet... feel free to take the other ones when the time does come, guys.

and for those of you who don't have superb marks and PCAT scores like myself, DON"T GIVE UP!!! i have a B+ Average overall and only have 70 percentile in PCAT and i got in!
well, i guess i have to point out i already have a degree in microbiology and 2 years of cancer research experience. volunteering wise,nothing pharmacy related but mostly in canadian blood service and hospitals. I think my interview went really well but still surprised i even got a interview at the first place with 70 percentile PCAT score.
So never give up hope!! Gladd I wish you luck!!!:xf:

For those on the waitlist, I will be declining my offer of admission from UBC to go to U of T next year. Don't worry, other people will do the same thing, you still have a chance!

For those who were interviewed and got rejection letters, focus mainly on improving your GPA and interview skills. If you got an interview, chances are your PCAT score is good enough. Take pharmacy electives. Join more extra-curricular activities. Please do research on the profession to recognize if this is what you really want to do.

For those who weren't interviewed, again, contemplate on the reality of this profession and then make the necessary improvements, PCAT included.

Congratulations to all of you who have made it! :thumbup:

and for those of you who don't have superb marks and PCAT scores like myself, DON"T GIVE UP!!! i have a B+ Average overall and only have 70 percentile in PCAT and i got in!
well, i guess i have to point out i already have a degree in microbiology and 2 years of cancer research experience. volunteering wise,nothing pharmacy related but mostly in canadian blood service and hospitals. I think my interview went really well but still surprised i even got a interview at the first place with 70 percentile PCAT score.
So never give up hope!! Gladd I wish you luck!!!:xf:

Thanks! :)

hi everyone! i think i've been lurking this thread all year :ninja: but i thought i'd post my stats as encouragement to any underdogs out there :)


pre-req: 74.3% (barely passed CHEM 233, fun times -.-)
PCAT: 95th percentile
just finished 2nd year in biology
experience: 1.5 years of volunteering at a pharmacy and other random stuff from highschool, etc
applied only to UBC (1st time applying)
obviously, now going to UBC ^__^


as for my application:

essay - thought about the topics for 3 months and didn't start writing them until the weekend before the application was due...

interview - probably failed the acting station, but i kept talking until the buzzer rang at all of the other stations. the interviewers were really helpful and jumped in right away if they saw that i was close to finishing talking so don't feel like you need to have six minutes worth of material to talk about!

references - two pharmacists from the pharmacy that i volunteer with. i'm not sure if they knew me very well but i hope they gave me a good reference :confused:


TL;DR - if you feel like you're in a bad place with your application, don't! if you think you've done poorly in certain aspects of your application, just try harder for the other ones because everything counts in the end. :thumbup:

and now, a question for current pharmacy students: is there anything planned for the first day of school (i.e., imagine day)? i'd hate to have to give up my position as a MUG leader. :(

hi everyone! i think i've been lurking this thread all year :ninja: but i thought i'd post my stats as encouragement to any underdogs out there :)



TL;DR - if you feel like you're in a bad place with your application, don't! if you think you've done poorly in certain aspects of your application, just try harder for the other ones because everything counts in the end. :thumbup:

and now, a question for current pharmacy students: is there anything planned for the first day of school (i.e., imagine day)? i'd hate to have to give up my position as a MUG leader. :(

i believe there will be classes on the first day of school and the white coat ceremony as well:p

i believe there will be classes on the first day of school and the white coat ceremony as well:p

the pharm site's calendar says the white coat ceremony's on thursday the 8th, but i'm really hoping there's no classes :(!

the pharm site's calendar says the white coat ceremony's on thursday the 8th, but i'm really hoping there's no classes :(!

First you couldnt wait to get in and now you dont want class? typical student:laugh:.

I'm just bumbed there is no such thing as Phrosh week at UBC like UofT. Whats there to do as fun for student orientation? White coat? Need answers current Pharm students.:thumbup:

Hi guys, long time lurker, but never a poster.

I got in :) and here are my stats and some (lengthy) advice on what I foundhelpful and important

I`m a UBC 4th year student set to graduate in Nov.

GPA: 80-81 depending on if summer courses are considered

PCAT: 86 (96 Bio, 92 Verbal, 77 Chem, 65 reading, 51 math :p)

ECE: volunteered at a pharmacy last summer, worked as MOA the summer before,helped high school students with science projects and judged a science fair

MMI: I thought I rocked it both during and after. Was really pleased how Idealt with all the stations. I have a strong background insocio-cultural-economic issues and I think its a huge advantage if you do too.I suggest taking anthropology, sociology, political science and historycourses. Bio ethics would be great too but I didn’t get the chance.

The biggest problem facing our health care system is the changing demographyof Canadians and not being well aware on the various facets of this issue isjust a bad idea.

I prepped with a group of interviewees prior to the MMI and I found itEXTREMELY helpful. At the very least it let me see how other people think andargue, which I was able to use to analyse issues from various perspectives forthe interview.

The single most helpful thing for the interview I found was reading andpretty much engraving BC college of Pharmacists’ values, codes, and moral responsibilitiesinto my head. Prior to that I answered ethical questions from personal beliefsand in ways that would have absolutely failed me in the interview, but readingit helped me see the social norms and attitudes health care professionals oughtto have. They say there are no right answers but I don't believe them. Thereare certainly preferred and acceptable answers (I feel).

You're gonna laugh but the next most helpful thing I thought was buying themost expensive suit that my mom could afford ($800; I’ll pay her back 10-fold) :laugh: and being in great shape before the interview.I felt like a million bucks walking in, during and after the interview. Do takeyour appearance very seriously, because sadly humans have deeply engrainedbiases which will affect their judgement. Feeling great will also put you atease. It will help you project confidence and competence to others too.

Another equally helpful thing I think was getting the help of a professionalfor my essay. I paid a lot ($300) but it was the best damned essay I've everwritten.

If you`re a person who doesn’t have great interpersonal skills, like me, Idon`t suggest forcing yourself into social situations just to learn thoseskills. Rather, dig a little deeper and ask yourself why you don`t have thoseskills and address those issues. For me, it was a variety of personal issuesthat I was able successfully overcome with the help of counselling. Don`t letstigma hold you back either.

Lastly, to those who are visible minority applicants, pm for advice, I thinkwe have an up-hill battle compared to others and would like to return the helpI`ve gotten during my 4 year education.

Well, those are my 2cents.

Just believe in yourself and others will believe in you too.

I also am curious about the beginning of the fall semester! As an OOP student who did her undergrad in the same city she has lived all her life, living in the basement of her parent's house, going to UBC is going to be a big change. What type of stuff goes on in the pharm community at the beginning of the year to orient you? Or do they just assume that the majority of students already attended UBC for their pre-reqs and don't need a big orientation event?

I also am curious about the beginning of the fall semester! As an OOP student who did her undergrad in the same city she has lived all her life, living in the basement of her parent's house, going to UBC is going to be a big change. What type of stuff goes on in the pharm community at the beginning of the year to orient you? Or do they just assume that the majority of students already attended UBC for their pre-reqs and don't need a big orientation event?

I think you're from Alberta right?

I don't know about orientation.

But you are going to LOVE ubc.

It's amazing. It's beautiful and in a fantastic city. But at the same time it's so secluded from the city.

Vancouver is amazing. Nothing against Alberta... but I think you'll love it.

Campus isn't hard to get used to either. It's not as big as it seems.


/loveaffairwithvancouver

I think you're from Alberta right?

I don't know about orientation.

But you are going to LOVE ubc.

It's amazing. It's beautiful and in a fantastic city. But at the same time it's so secluded from the city.

Vancouver is amazing. Nothing against Alberta... but I think you'll love it.

Campus isn't hard to get used to either. It's not as big as it seems.


/loveaffairwithvancouver

Haha I have only every been to Van twice and I do love it. The thing I don't love about it is how expensive it's gonna be for the next four years of my life. And leaving my friends and boyfriend behind. Furthermore, although I am definitely excited to live somewhere new I am sure gonna miss the lack of PST!

Haha I have only every been to Van twice and I do love it. The thing I don't love about it is how expensive it's gonna be for the next four years of my life. And leaving my friends and boyfriend behind. Furthermore, although I am definitely excited to live somewhere new I am sure gonna miss the lack of PST!

Haha at least you're not in my position. I also have to leave my boyfriend behind and be in Toronto where tuition is even more. We're in similar positions. It'll be a good experience though for both of us. :) But you get to be in Van!

I think you're from Alberta right?

I don't know about orientation.

But you are going to LOVE ubc.

It's amazing. It's beautiful and in a fantastic city. But at the same time it's so secluded from the city.

Vancouver is amazing. Nothing against Alberta... but I think you'll love it.

Campus isn't hard to get used to either. It's not as big as it seems.


/loveaffairwithvancouver

No, it IS HUGE!! The 10 min between classes is often lacking! Have you hustled from Buchanan to LFSC before!?

No, it IS HUGE!! The 10 min between classes is often lacking! Have you hustled from Buchanan to LFSC before!?

Lol, I guess it is big, but it's not hard to find your way around. I think you can get from one end to another in 10 minutes. 15 max. I ran from Totem to LSK in about 5 minutes first year when I woke up 15 minutes after my math midterm had started. Oh first year.

Lol, I guess it is big, but it's not hard to find your way around. I think you can get from one end to another in 10 minutes. 15 max. I ran from Totem to LSK in about 5 minutes first year when I woke up 15 minutes after my math midterm had started. Oh first year.

Haha, one problem that I did observe during my visits to UBC is that the buildings are not connected by inside passages (from what I could tell anyway). Maybe I am just a wimp and I am sure Vancouver winters are milder, but in the craptacular Calgary winters it is often worth your while to take the LONG way to your next class just to stay indoors!

Haha, one problem that I did observe during my visits to UBC is that the buildings are not connected by inside passages (from what I could tell anyway). Maybe I am just a wimp and I am sure Vancouver winters are milder, but in the craptacular Calgary winters it is often worth your while to take the LONG way to your next class just to stay indoors!

Think the only buildings connected at UBC are 1) the Chemistry and Physics buildings (Chem/Hebb/Hennings) and 2) Wesbrook/Cunningham. At our lovely campus, we promote walking in the great outdoors, rain or shine or snow, where you may have to dodge muddy grass patches, two meter wide puddles and frozen walkways.

Haha, one problem that I did observe during my visits to UBC is that the buildings are not connected by inside passages (from what I could tell anyway). Maybe I am just a wimp and I am sure Vancouver winters are milder, but in the craptacular Calgary winters it is often worth your while to take the LONG way to your next class just to stay indoors!

Be sure to buy yourself a nice comfy pair of rainboots and a solid umbrella. You'll actually NEED them, unlike in Calgary.

Hi guys, long time lurker, but never a poster.

I got in :) and here are my stats and some (lengthy) advice on what I foundhelpful and important

I`m a UBC 4th year student set to graduate in Nov.

GPA: 80-81 depending on if summer courses are considered

PCAT: 86 (96 Bio, 92 Verbal, 77 Chem, 65 reading, 51 math :p)


I prepped with a group of interviewees prior to the MMI and I found itEXTREMELY helpful. At the very least it let me see how other people think andargue, which I was able to use to analyse issues from various perspectives forthe interview.

You're gonna laugh but the next most helpful thing I thought was buying themost expensive suit that my mom could afford ($800; I’ll pay her back 10-fold) :laugh: and being in great shape before the interview.

Another equally helpful thing I think was getting the help of a professionalfor my essay. I paid a lot ($300) but it was the best damned essay I've everwritten.



Lastly, to those who are visible minority applicants, pm for advice, I thinkwe have an up-hill battle compared to others and would like to return the helpI`ve gotten during my 4 year education.




Ok.. That was a bit excessive!!!

To future applicants::

Cut the appearance bs out. You dont have to have money, you dont have to find money, and DONT use your moms money.

Here is my attire cost: THE WAlmart special
Shoes= $14
tie= 7$
Pants=$22
White shirt= $10
Belt= Borrowed
Total:$53+Hst(mmm my fav)
Still getting accepted with an iron burn on my a$...... PRICELESS

My only advice be yourself and get your mom to iron your S%*#

Haha, like I said just my 2cents. But to me this was the biggest interview of my life and applying was the biggest investment of my career. I wanted to ensure I did everything in my power to get in. I`ve no regrets. The money spent is pennies compared to the return.

Hey, everyone! I'll be looking forward to meeting all of you this September. I've been lurking for a while, and here are my stats if anyone is curious.

GPA: 87
PCAT: 92
Extracurricular Activities: Orientations leader, UBC Learning Exchange, executive positions at a few clubs, tennis, coaching basketball/tennis, graphic design, 2 summers working at an independent pharmacy
Interview: I prepped 4 days before my interview. I practiced with a group of other applicants, which helped me think about how I would structure my answers with the 2 minutes. I also took some time to reflect on what I've done, and what skills I've obtained/developed through those experiences.

As for tips for the interview, remember to smile! I was the last applicant to walk into the room (not on purpose!), with my iPod in my ears and the entire area was so silent/tense! Everyone (or mostly everyone) is pretty nervous, so try to laugh/smile the stress away. Make sure your thought processes are clear, and remember to maintain eye contact. But again, remember to smile. :)

Still getting accepted with an iron burn on my a$...... PRICELESS


omg, HAHAHA!

hmm...i probably spent ~$200 for a new suit and a dress shirt - but this was also partially because i don't own anything remotely professional in my wardrobe whatsoever so it wasn't just for the pharmacy interview :P

reasonably-priced, well-cut ladies' suits are rather hard to find :(

Wow I was only away for about 24 hours and there are already 3 pages added to this thread :D
And I got in toooo! Yay! See you guys in September :)

This is my second time applying :) I had a weird time during the interviews..XD During last year's interview, I wore a suit but then only a few had them, so in this year's interview I didn't wear one. Surprisingly, everyone on this year's interview (in my chosen schedule) wore a suit and I felt so left out. O_O

My stats for future applicants :
GPA : 85 (was 87.5 last year until I took Org. Chem.)

PCAT : 80 (I took during first year)

Online app : One of the essays I didn't change and was the same from last year, and the other I completely made a new one. I had only did a lot of volunteering during highschool and was not really involved when I came to UBC.

Pharmacy exp : None, but I did read a lot of Pharmacy Communication Skills and Counseling books a month before the interview. It certainly helped during the acting station :D

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Alright folks, you can now log into ssc and change your program to bscpharm year 1 and see your registration time:cool:

hi guys i am from out of town and have to find a place in van. u guys know any good websites/ways to look for rental apartments? any sketchy areas in van to stay out of ? i was thinking about a 1bd apt in vancouver area. any idea how long of a drive it is to UBC? or perhaps bus
Thanks in advance:luck:

hi guys i am from out of town and have to find a place in van. u guys know any good websites/ways to look for rental apartments? any sketchy areas in van to stay out of ? i was thinking about a 1bd apt in vancouver area. any idea how long of a drive it is to UBC? or perhaps bus
Thanks in advance:luck:

Try this one:
http://www.amsrentsline.com/page/advanced-search

I'd say ~15 mins drive to UBC if you live in vancouver:luck:, and you probably want to find a place on the west side of van :meanie:.

Farm, how many times have you applied for Pharmacy? You seem so carefree!

this is my third time applying, i obviously rejected them the first 2 times. i just felt that this time, the adjudicators showed perseverance. i will be sure to mention it in my speech

this is my third time applying, i obviously rejected them the first 2 times. I'm glad to see that the adjudicators showed perseverance, i will be sure to mention it in my speech
lolll

Alright folks, you can now log into ssc and change your program to bscpharm year 1 and see your registration time:cool:

inferior gpa, inferior july 20th 7am timeslot!! yay!

oh, is it only me who is able to register right now?

oh, is it only me who is able to register right now?
I thought profs were going to register for the time slots you provided to see what time they can come to your place and teach you :confused:

inferior gpa, inferior july 20th 7am timeslot!! yay!
Where did you find that on SSC? I can't find it:confused:

Where did you find that on SSC? I can't find it:confused:

It's easier if you log into CWL by the following link:
courses.students.ubc.ca

However, I wouldn't trust the time you're given yet - times are generally not updated until a few weeks before your registration (auto-set at 7am).

It's easier if you log into CWL by the following link:
courses.students.ubc.ca

However, I wouldn't trust the time you're given yet - times are generally not updated until a few weeks before your registration (auto-set at 7am).

It still says Program: BSC for me, how did you change it to pharm? :confused:

It still says Program: BSC for me, how did you change it to pharm? :confused:

its under "my program", and you should see ur reg time below reg status

its under "my program", and you should see ur reg time below reg status
Erp, I don't see pharm under "my program" yet, should I bet worried?:eek:

Erp, I don't see pharm under "my program" yet, should I bet worried?:eek:

Have you accept the offer on ssc and pay your deposit yet?
I did that yesterday and saw my pharmacy eligibility this morning, maybe give them a day or so to process your offer.:confused:

Have you accept the offer on ssc and pay your deposit yet?
I did that yesterday and saw my pharmacy eligibility this morning, maybe give them a day or so to process your offer.:confused:

Good point... no money = no show

I thought profs were going to register for the time slots you provided to see what time they can come to your place and teach you :confused:

LOL silly me what was i thinking, i better get started on making their schedules

Hey, is anyone taking Biochem this year??

congrats to everyone that got in this year! im in 2nd year heading to 3rd and my advice to all of you would be to get ur electives over and done with by 2nd term 2nd year..... 2nd term of 2nd year is brutal.. i heard 3rd year is the worst... i'm not looking forward to it =)

Can we take any pharmacy specific elective in first year? I checked out a few of them and they all require you to be a 1< year student :(.

Can we take any pharmacy specific elective in first year? I checked out a few of them and they all require you to be a 1< year student :(.

Doesn't seem so. First year is going to be pretty chill since my other electives are all wrapped up. Would've liked to get the PHAR one outta the way... ah well.

Doesn't seem so. First year is going to be pretty chill since my other electives are all wrapped up. Would've liked to get the PHAR one outta the way... ah well.

I am also in the same situation. Getting your undergrad first will do that I guess. But it looks like some of the special topics/studies type courses don't explicitly state that they need pre-reqs from lower years and I think PHAR 456 and 458 seem to be fair game? thoughts?

I also noticed a bunch of nutrition courses and other options that I would love to take (despite the fact that I technically don't need any extra electives). I wonder if it is possible to take a minor with pharmacy? I feel like a nutritional background would complement the profession quite well. Just a thought...

Also, trying to figure out housing is BLOWING my mind!

Do we only have to take 1 semester of organic chem?

I am also in the same situation. Getting your undergrad first will do that I guess. But it looks like some of the special topics/studies type courses don't explicitly state that they need pre-reqs from lower years and I think PHAR 456 and 458 seem to be fair game? thoughts?

I also noticed a bunch of nutrition courses and other options that I would love to take (despite the fact that I technically don't need any extra electives). I wonder if it is possible to take a minor with pharmacy? I feel like a nutritional background would complement the profession quite well. Just a thought...

Also, trying to figure out housing is BLOWING my mind!
I think its gonna get a bit tougher in the second and third year.

Ya tell me about it. I have a small puppy (permanent puppy:)) and its hard to find a place. And I also dont want to live too far from ubc and I'm looking in the kits area.

Do we only have to take 1 semester of organic chem?

Yes, one semester of Orgo equivalent to 233/235

Doesn't seem so. First year is going to be pretty chill since my other electives are all wrapped up. Would've liked to get the PHAR one outta the way... ah well.
I don't think there are any electives in first year. There's one in 2nd year, two in 3rd year and three in 4th year. I've taken all the required courses other than the PHAR courses. I think that's what you meant as well. 12 credits for the 1st year sounds really boring don't you think? Lol. That's why I wanted to get the pharmacy specific electives out of the way. I'm also covered for the 6 credits of non-pharmacy electives. First year = :sleep:

Yeah I guess. It's gonna be expensive though. And I am leaving a lot behind here...

****. :(

Have rejections been sent out?


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Go to Waterloo. ;)

Just kidding.

I think Waterloo has a better program, to be honest.

But it wouldn't be worth moving across the country to me, in my opinion.

So I would pick UBC over it.

But I guess it depends on what you value more.

hey Gladd,
did u get in UBC????

as far as i know uoft pharmd has been rejected by government for this year... i would stay in ubc if got an offer from there

Where did you hear this? I'm pretty sure that isn't the case.

hey Gladd,
did u get in UBC????

Okay. First of all you're feeding me false info cause I think I remember you being on the uoft waitlist. And that's pretty pathetic.

Second of all, I'm on the waitlist for ubc. So yeah. I'm probably going to uoft much to your dismay cause I don't think the ubc waitlist moves much.

Hey, is anyone taking Biochem this year??

I am taking BIOC 302 this year :) Are you taking BIOC 300?

hi guys i am from out of town and have to find a place in van. u guys know any good websites/ways to look for rental apartments? any sketchy areas in van to stay out of ? i was thinking about a 1bd apt in vancouver area. any idea how long of a drive it is to UBC? or perhaps bus
Thanks in advance:luck:

If you already have a CWL Login, you can go to my.ubc.ca and look for the "Accomodations : For Rent" under the Classifieds tab. :thumbup:

for those still looking for housing, heres a site I've found:
http://www.discoverwesbrook.ca/

all the apartments are brand new and located near save on foods. if you can find a roomate to share the cost its not a bad deal imo.

Where did you hear this? I'm pretty sure that isn't the case.

Agreed.

http://www.ccapp-accredit.ca/accredited_programs/degree/

Accredited until 2013, then will likely be renewed as per usual. Weird kid.

I am taking BIOC 302 this year :) Are you taking BIOC 300?

Yeah I'm thinking about it! I've taken organic already so I'll have a free spot...I've also taken Immunology already so I hope I won't have to take Micro 202 :P What's the difference between the two anyway?

Yeah I'm thinking about it! I've taken organic already so I'll have a free spot...I've also taken Immunology already so I hope I won't have to take Micro 202 :P What's the difference between the two anyway?

I know for MICB 202 we had 3 units: immunology, viruses, and bacterial diseases.

Maybe you can get an exemption or whatever if your immunology course covered that?

I know for MICB 202 we had 3 units: immunology, viruses, and bacterial diseases.

Maybe you can get an exemption or whatever if your immunology course covered that?

Yeah, we definitely covered all those sections but it integrated how your immune system respond to viral and bacterial infections. By the end you know how a pathogen enters your system and what defenses it will trigger within your immune system.

Naturally, it was centered around immunology...But I'm sure I've learned most of the material in that course already, so it would be nice to save some money!

Yeah, we definitely covered all those sections but it integrated how your immune system respond to viral and bacterial infections. By the end you know how a pathogen enters your system and what defenses it will trigger within your immune system.

Naturally, it was centered around immunology...But I'm sure I've learned most of the material in that course already, so it would be nice to save some money!

Thats pretty much what 202 was. They shouldnt make you retake it.

Yeah, we definitely covered all those sections but it integrated how your immune system respond to viral and bacterial infections. By the end you know how a pathogen enters your system and what defenses it will trigger within your immune system.

Naturally, it was centered around immunology...But I'm sure I've learned most of the material in that course already, so it would be nice to save some money!
Try emailing Dr. Tracy Kion at ecoli@interchange.ubc.ca. We had immunology, bacterial diseases and virology in MICB 202. What you explained was under immunology. In bacterial diseases, we looked at 7-8 (I think) case studies of bacterial diseases, their causes, cures, etc. In virology, we looked at different ways a virus enters a host, replicates and spreads. Then there were more case studies in this section as well with every virus having a different life cycle.

as far as i know uoft pharmd has been rejected by government for this year... i would stay in ubc if got an offer from there

I'm pretty sure this is FALSE information.

Try emailing Dr. Tracy Kion at ecoli@interchange.ubc.ca. We had immunology, bacterial diseases and virology in MICB 202. What you explained was under immunology. In bacterial diseases, we looked at 7-8 (I think) case studies of bacterial diseases, their causes, cures, etc. In virology, we looked at different ways a virus enters a host, replicates and spreads. Then there were more case studies in this section as well with every virus having a different life cycle.

Okay. Yeah, my friend told me to email her...but mentioned there are some weird guidelines you have to follow when corresponding with her?

We didn't really do case studies in bacterial diseases. But everything you've described about viruses I have definitely covered. If they don't waive the MICB 202 course, I was hoping they would at least waive the approved elective (MICB 302) for Immunology. If I do take it again, at least it will be a breeze...

Okay. Yeah, my friend told me to email her...but mentioned there are some weird guidelines you have to follow when corresponding with her?

We didn't really do case studies in bacterial diseases. But everything you've described about viruses I have definitely covered. If they don't waive the MICB 202 course, I was hoping they would at least waive the approved elective (MICB 302) for Immunology. If I do take it again, at least it will be a breeze...

i think you should email margaret about credit transfer

Same boat.

Anyone??

Waitlist has 20% chance, according to upper years that i know
But it might be a bit lower this year, since they accepted 225 already

as far as i know uoft pharmd has been rejected by government for this year... i would stay in ubc if got an offer from there

Well, as far as I know, your information is false. The PharmD is imminent, the curriculum has already changed for a doctorate degree, they've even implemented a bridging Bsc-PharmD program for current Bsc students and all we're waiting for is the government to approve of it. If UBC had caught on with U of T and Waterloo, I would have probably accepted their offer for admission. But they didn't, so..

Okay. First of all you're feeding me false info cause I think I remember you being on the uoft waitlist. And that's pretty pathetic.

Second of all, I'm on the waitlist for ubc. So yeah. I'm probably going to uoft much to your dismay cause I don't think the ubc waitlist moves much.

lol...false info.. i read your question about pharmd while surfing and remembered that i read a post earlier which explained about this so thought i will share with you. the link is:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=760268

the post by the person gives a source also
hope that helps and now i would realy appretiate if you can edit your post about me lol

Well, as far as I know, your information is false. The PharmD is imminent, the curriculum has already changed for a doctorate degree, they've even implemented a bridging Bsc-PharmD program for current Bsc students and all we're waiting for is the government to approve of it. If UBC had caught on with U of T and Waterloo, I would have probably accepted their offer for admission. But they didn't, so..

read a post here: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=760268
so shared with you guys

Where did you hear this? I'm pretty sure that isn't the case.
read a post here with a source buddy:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=760268

hope it helps :)

so guys i am not trying to give any false info.... just read a post and shared

read a post here: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=760268
so shared with you guys

It would help if I didn't have to go through 35 pages of posts. And I've been following the U of T thread. Even if it's not this year, they wouldn't have changed our curriculum if they weren't sure that the government will approve it in the near future.

It would help if I didn't have to go through 35 pages of posts. And I've been following the U of T thread. Even if it's not this year, they wouldn't have changed our curriculum if they weren't sure that the government will approve it in the near future.

its on page 1 ...post by pharmanac

its on page 1 ...post by pharmanac

You clearly haven't read the rest of the thread nor have been following it, it hasn't been rejected; in fact, when I went to my interviews at both U of T and Waterloo, they still mentioned the possibility of having the PharmD implemented this year.

yaa.. i think pharm D is still in the to-go phase ! plus.. i've read this paper long ago.. it's from Nov 2006.. it's outdated ! .... and i'm pretty sure UBC's implementing entry-level pharm D for new students and bridge program for current students too.. ! :laugh::laugh:

You clearly haven't read the rest of the thread nor have been following it, it hasn't been rejected; in fact, when I went to my interviews at both U of T and Waterloo, they still mentioned the possibility of having the PharmD implemented this year.
yep, they were asked during the interview why there was no response yet from the government for the approval. They weren't positive, but, were somewhat confident that everything will be fine. Worse case scenario, if it gets changed, I'm sure you can take the extra course or two and end up with a PharmD. Having said that, I'm not too worried :)

yaa.. i think pharm D is still in the to-go phase ! plus.. i've read this paper long ago.. it's from Nov 2006.. it's outdated ! .... and i'm pretty sure UBC's implementing entry-level pharm D for new students and bridge program for current students too.. ! :laugh::laugh:


I know that there's been talk for a long time to implement it in Toronto but I havent heard anything for UBC. It would be great if UBC would do that but it doesnt sound very promising right now. If you go to the UBC pharmacy site, this is what it says on the program overview page:

"The program is designed for full-time study. Presently, part-time or "non-traditional" degree options are not available. While pharmacy schools in the United States offer the "entry-level" PharmD degree, the program at U.B.C. will continue to be structured on a post-BSc degree basis."

http://www.pharmacy.ubc.ca/programs/degree-programs/PharmD/programs

ALso, the pharmD entry level programs started taking shape in the mid-90s. How is Canada so far behind? And apparently Montreal is the only school that offers it but doesnt accept students from western Canada AND for anyone that is admitted to Montreal, they have to pass a french exam....

lol...false info.. i read your question about pharmd while surfing and remembered that i read a post earlier which explained about this so thought i will share with you. the link is:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=760268

the post by the person gives a source also
hope that helps and now i would realy appretiate if you can edit your post about me lol

Whatever. I never asked anything about a pharmd. And you clearly don't know what's going on with it so your information is false.

I know that there's been talk for a long time to implement it in Toronto but I havent heard anything for UBC. It would be great if UBC would do that but it doesnt sound very promising right now. If you go to the UBC pharmacy site, this is what it says on the program overview page:

"The program is designed for full-time study. Presently, part-time or "non-traditional" degree options are not available. While pharmacy schools in the United States offer the "entry-level" PharmD degree, the program at U.B.C. will continue to be structured on a post-BSc degree basis."

http://www.pharmacy.ubc.ca/programs/degree-programs/PharmD/programs

UBC website usually updates new info pretty slow .. remember they waited more than 6 months to post the newly implemented MMI format last year... but.. i guess you are partially right.. if it's not put up on the website, nothing is certain yet! I guess we'll find out from the dean during the white coat ceremony.. I'm sure he'll mention about pharm D program on that day since many students show concerns for this topic.. ~ :D

UBC website usually updates new info pretty slow .. remember they waited more than 6 months to post the newly implemented MMI format last year... but.. i guess you are partially right.. if it's not put up on the website, nothing is certain yet! I guess we'll find out from the dean during the white coat ceremony.. I'm sure he'll mention about pharm D program on that day since many students show concerns for this topic.. ~ :D

UBC is usually pretty slow about everything that's why I'm not holding my breath about them implementing an entry-level program anytime soon. Toronto took the intiative and starting talking about having an entry-level pharmD a long time ago and they're about to get one. From what I know, UBC hasn't even started discussing it.

Waitlist has 20% chance, according to upper years that i know
But it might be a bit lower this year, since they accepted 225 already

Damn. I wonder how many people decline.

Thanks for the info though.

UBC hasn't even started discussing it.

Incorrect. It is in discussion, but it'll be a while yet.

Incorrect. It is in discussion, but it'll be a while yet.

Do you have more info....?

Do you have more info....?

The Faculty of Pharmaceutical Sciences at UBC has passed a resolution to move toward an entry level Pharm D.

NOTHING has been approved by the provincial government, and there was opposition to the entry level Pharm D. According to the Dean, some of those who were in opposition have retired, so that's a good thing for us.

If and when the entry level Pharm D is implemented, upper years and graduates WILL have the chance to upgrade.

The faculty feels that our program is currently similar to an entry level Pharm D with respect to breadth of learning etc, but the Faculty hopes to implement the entry level Pharm D in "the near future".

The above is paraphrased from the minutes of the Dean's Lunch meeting.

My thoughts: keep your pants on. It's not as simple as The Faculty wanting to implement the ELPD. There's a lot more to it than that.

The Faculty of Pharmaceutical Sciences at UBC has passed a resolution to move toward an entry level Pharm D.

NOTHING has been approved by the provincial government, and there was opposition to the entry level Pharm D. According to the Dean, some of those who were in opposition have retired, so that's a good thing for us.

If and when the entry level Pharm D is implemented, upper years and graduates WILL have the chance to upgrade.

The faculty feels that our program is currently similar to an entry level Pharm D with respect to breadth of learning etc, but the Faculty hopes to implement the entry level Pharm D in "the near future".

The above is paraphrased from the minutes of the Dean's Lunch meeting.

My thoughts: keep your pants on. It's not as simple as The Faculty wanting to implement the ELPD. There's a lot more to it than that.

Interesting stuff, thanks for the post.

hmmm anyone from out of province know anything about switching your provincial health insurance, etc?

hmmm anyone from out of province know anything about switching your provincial health insurance, etc?

http://www.health.gov.bc.ca/msp/

hey gang, anyone know what easy pharmacy approved electives I can take during the first year? other than clst 301 and fnh 200. thx!:rolleyes:

hey gang, anyone know what easy pharmacy approved electives I can take during the first year? other than clst 301 and fnh 200. thx!:rolleyes:

Phil 433 is supposed to be easy.

Phil 433 is supposed to be easy.

Are we allowed to register for courses that require a > 2nd year academic standing despite being considered "1st year pharmacy students"?

hey gang, anyone know what easy pharmacy approved electives I can take during the first year? other than clst 301 and fnh 200. thx!:rolleyes:

How about fnh 250? Did anyone take that course yet? I'm thinking of doing that as my elective.

hey gang, anyone know what easy pharmacy approved electives I can take during the first year? other than clst 301 and fnh 200. thx!:rolleyes:

All IHHS XXX courses are extremely easy and beneficial for future health providers.

How come we dont get any credit for Pharmacology courses?

Does anyone elses ssc still say Program: BSC? I've paid the deposit last week but it still didn't change yet...

Does anyone elses ssc still say Program: BSC? I've paid the deposit last week but it still didn't change yet...

You have to accept the BSCP offer under admission on the SSC and change your program under My Program on the course registration page.

You have to accept the BSCP offer under admission on the SSC and change your program under My Program on the course registration page.

I've accepted the BSCP offer on SSC last week, but the pharmacy program doesn't show under My program on the course registration page yet..still shows my old program

I have the same problem as vita25. I paid the registration deposit last week and still my program is BSC and I don't see the BSCP eligibility under MyProgram in SSC. I called Margaret but she doesn't know the status of my account either. Likely, the undergraduate admissions are still going through the whole thing and not up for everyone.

I think it should be up by the end of this week or the week after.

I've accepted the BSCP offer on SSC last week, but the pharmacy program doesn't show under My program on the course registration page yet..still shows my old program

I think it is a matter of the admissions people getting around to adjusting your account. I didn't go to UBC last year and I haven't even paid my BSCP deposit yet or officially accepted the offer in the SSC (I am out of town), but it still shows for me as being in the BSCP program. So I think it is really a matter of them making adjustments for previous UBC students' profiles while new students like me were just automatically entered and took less time.

Just posting to say that I went to UBC last year (and years before that...), and BSCP does show for me after I 1) paid the deposit and 2) accepted the offer on SSC.

If you've done the above and still no luck, it's probably best to contact Science Advising as opposed to Margaret.

I can see my bscpharm eligibility the day after I accepted the offer and made the payment. This morning, I got an email about my updated reg time. If you still don't see ur bscpharm program I suggest you call enrollment services instead of Margaret. Their phone # is 6048229836:xf:

I can see my bscpharm eligibility the day after I accepted the offer and made the payment. This morning, I got an email about my updated reg time. If you still don't see ur bscpharm program I suggest you call enrollment services instead of Margaret. Their phone # is 6048229836:xf:

Probably better to wait until the end of the week, since we were told statuses would be updated some time this week. Probably takes them a while longer to change to your program if you were already expected to be in another program in September. If not, definitely call by next Monday :thumbup:

Anyone have my problem where you don't even see the deposit fee on SSC? I see everything but this fee.

Or maybe it's because I already paid my fee when I registered for courses in my original program.

Quick question: What was the deposit fee you guys had to pay? I just want to compare them.

Anyone have my problem where you don't even see the deposit fee on SSC? I see everything but this fee.

Or maybe it's because I already paid my fee when I registered for courses in my original program.

Quick question: What was the deposit fee you guys had to pay? I just want to compare them.

it was the same $100 deposit fee that you had to pay before you can register

Ah, what a pain in the butt it is to e-mail all the course coordinators and try to get exemptions since i already have a degree from a different university and have taken some form of most of the first year non-pharm courses. Margaret gave me instant exemption from organic and stats, but apparently I have to go through the coordinator to discuss anatomy, physiology, microbio, and biochem. Doesn't help that UBC and the U of C totally organize their courses completely differently!

Not complaining too much though, I am just happy to be accepted. And I quite enjoyed anatomy and physiology and it's been a while so I wouldn't mind *too* much if I had to take them again.

Ah, what a pain in the butt it is to e-mail all the course coordinators and try to get exemptions since i already have a degree from a different university and have taken some form of most of the first year non-pharm courses. Margaret gave me instant exemption from organic and stats, but apparently I have to go through the coordinator to discuss anatomy, physiology, microbio, and biochem. Doesn't help that UBC and the U of C totally organize their courses completely differently!

Not complaining too much though, I am just happy to be accepted. And I quite enjoyed anatomy and physiology and it's been a while so I wouldn't mind *too* much if I had to take them again.

I'd be ecstatic over this!!

Ah, what a pain in the butt it is to e-mail all the course coordinators and try to get exemptions since i already have a degree from a different university and have taken some form of most of the first year non-pharm courses. Margaret gave me instant exemption from organic and stats, but apparently I have to go through the coordinator to discuss anatomy, physiology, microbio, and biochem. Doesn't help that UBC and the U of C totally organize their courses completely differently!

Not complaining too much though, I am just happy to be accepted. And I quite enjoyed anatomy and physiology and it's been a while so I wouldn't mind *too* much if I had to take them again.

Hey lllix, I was just wondering, what micro courses (and others) have you taken? Because I've taken an intro micro course (biol228) and immunology (biol318) now, but the intro micro was used in lieu of their Biol 112 pre-requisite requirement and immunology was used as an approved pharmacy elective...So I'm hoping since I've learned that material to a greater depth that I won't have to take MICB 202 >_>

I'd be ecstatic over this!!

Don't worry organic's not as bad as everyone makes it out to be! Just be prepared to work hard :P

Don't worry organic's not as bad as everyone makes it out to be! Just be prepared to work hard :P

Lol no, I've taken it already! I did not work hard and it spanked me without mercy!

Ah, what a pain in the butt it is to e-mail all the course coordinators and try to get exemptions since i already have a degree from a different university and have taken some form of most of the first year non-pharm courses. Margaret gave me instant exemption from organic and stats, but apparently I have to go through the coordinator to discuss anatomy, physiology, microbio, and biochem. Doesn't help that UBC and the U of C totally organize their courses completely differently!

Not complaining too much though, I am just happy to be accepted. And I quite enjoyed anatomy and physiology and it's been a while so I wouldn't mind *too* much if I had to take them again.

yea i got instant exemption from orgo and stats too but such a pain getting exemptions from micro, anat and physio.......sigh i took so many anatomy courses in second year AND third year too......

Hey lllix, I was just wondering, what micro courses (and others) have you taken? Because I've taken an intro micro course (biol228) and immunology (biol318) now, but the intro micro was used in lieu of their Biol 112 pre-requisite requirement and immunology was used as an approved pharmacy elective...So I'm hoping since I've learned that material to a greater depth that I won't have to take MICB 202 >_>

I dunno what school you went to, but at my school they have a more generalized microbio course with a lab component--CMMB 343. It covers everything form basic prokaryotic diversity, viruses, and immunology, but because the courses are organized differently between my school I am pretty certain I will get out of the BIOL 112/MICB 201 requirement, but because MICB 202 fully focuses on immunology it seems, I don't know if I will have covered it to the same depth as in MICB 202.

Yeah, so sorry that doesn't help much, I am just as lost as you on that matter. Those courses seem to be the most confusing in terms of figuring out transferability. Although anatomy is a bit of a pain too. Either way, I spent a significant portion of my evening last night rounding up course outlines and sending them to all of the relevant course coordinators, so hopefully everything will be in order by the time I get to my registration date. Like I said in my other message, I wouldn't mind retaking physiology and anatomy, but I would really like to keep the amount of repetition to a minimum. There has got to be *some* perk to finishing a degree beforehand!

Edit: woohoo, my exemption from PHYL 301 just went through!

I dunno what school you went to, but at my school they have a more generalized microbio course with a lab component--CMMB 343. It covers everything form basic prokaryotic diversity, viruses, and immunology, but because the courses are organized differently between my school I am pretty certain I will get out of the BIOL 112/MICB 201 requirement, but because MICB 202 fully focuses on immunology it seems, I don't know if I will have covered it to the same depth as in MICB 202.

Yeah, so sorry that doesn't help much, I am just as lost as you on that matter. Those courses seem to be the most confusing in terms of figuring out transferability. Although anatomy is a bit of a pain too. Either way, I spent a significant portion of my evening last night rounding up course outlines and sending them to all of the relevant course coordinators, so hopefully everything will be in order by the time I get to my registration date. Like I said in my other message, I wouldn't mind retaking physiology and anatomy, but I would really like to keep the amount of repetition to a minimum. There has got to be *some* perk to finishing a degree beforehand!

Edit: woohoo, my exemption from PHYL 301 just went through!

Nice, congrats! I went to UBCO. The courses I've taken have covered all of the stuff described in MICB 202 and more from the sounds of it...so I'm kind of confused. Well, at least I got out of one elective. Margaret said I will still have to take MICB 202...Which doesn't make a lot of sense since I got credit for Immunology (MICB 302) which has a pre-requisite of MICB 202. Oh well guess it'll be a refresher..

I'm guessing you have an exemption for Biochem though if you have your degree? I'm thinking of taking a 36 credit year..but not sure if that's a good idea yet. Thoughts?

Lol no, I've taken it already! I did not work hard and it spanked me without mercy!

Oh haha...ya it can do that. At least it's out of the way now :P

Margaret said I will still have to take MICB 202...Which doesn't make a lot of sense since I got credit for Immunology (MICB 302) which has a pre-requisite of MICB 202. Oh well guess it'll be a refresher..

Wow, I can't believe they are making you take Micb 202 if you have credit for Micb 302!!! I took 302 (did a microbi/immunology degree) but thankfully they didn't make me take Micb 202 once I got into the pharm program!

PS congrats to everyone who got in :)

Grats to everyone who got in!!

Unfortunately, I didn't get an offer but I'll be trying again next year.
I'm entering second year this winter and I'm wondering if any of you have any insight as to how I should plan my courses.

Reading the ubc website, there are some courses that will be used in the admission average (chem, micb, anat) but are "pharmacy electives" (clst, ihhs) also used as part of the admission average?

Grats to everyone who got in!!

Unfortunately, I didn't get an offer but I'll be trying again next year.
I'm entering second year this winter and I'm wondering if any of you have any insight as to how I should plan my courses.

Reading the ubc website, there are some courses that will be used in the admission average (chem, micb, anat) but are "pharmacy electives" (clst, ihhs) also used as part of the admission average?

Only required courses are calculated in your admission average, i.e.: PHYL301, STAT203, ANAT390/1, BIOC300, MICB202, CHEM233/5 (or equivalents of these). Retakes of any courses (or equivalents) are also added for calculating your average.

Though not all easy, you should try and take as many of these as you can for your current program... saves you a big buck when you do get it and have to start paying a whole lot of hurt more for each credit attempted.

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Thanks for all the help. My GPA was 77.9 and PCAT comp. was 74. I'm not sure but I think the PCAT is what bombed it for me. I don't think I messed up the interview too much since I was quite confident leaving. Margaret said to start emailing her about my ranking mid-July, so I'll do that and see how I can improve.

I'm just not sure how I should be planning my schedule. Should I be taking courses to gain admission into a specialization and take the required pharmacy courses to boost my GPA?

Thanks for all the help. My GPA was 77.9 and PCAT comp. was 74. I'm not sure but I think the PCAT is what bombed it for me. I don't think I messed up the interview too much since I was quite confident leaving. Margaret said to start emailing her about my ranking mid-July, so I'll do that and see how I can improve.

I'm just not sure how I should be planning my schedule. Should I be taking courses to gain admission into a specialization and take the required pharmacy courses to boost my GPA?

Your GPA is fine, PCAT can be improved a bit but isn't much of a deciding factor in the final ranking. Definitely need to wait on the ranking, since Margaret will give you your interview score as well relative to the average.

If you're already in the Faculty of Science, most of the required courses in Pharmacy for 1st-year can be also used as Science/upper credits, so you can definitely plan around that (which is what I ended up doing). Definitely recommend you take STAT200 (can be used for Science credit, unlike STAT203 that Pharmacy lets you take) and both ANATs (only BIOL121 required, which you already have)... decent amount of material and will be a huge GPA booster.

Nice, congrats! I went to UBCO. The courses I've taken have covered all of the stuff described in MICB 202 and more from the sounds of it...so I'm kind of confused. Well, at least I got out of one elective. Margaret said I will still have to take MICB 202...Which doesn't make a lot of sense since I got credit for Immunology (MICB 302) which has a pre-requisite of MICB 202. Oh well guess it'll be a refresher..

I'm guessing you have an exemption for Biochem though if you have your degree? I'm thinking of taking a 36 credit year..but not sure if that's a good idea yet. Thoughts?

I'm at the U of C so UBC's course titles mean zilch to me. Like I said I think I will get out of BIOL 112/MICB 201, but I suspect I will get stuck with MICB 202, which I guess I don't totally mind.

I think I will definitely get an exemption from biochem (just waiting for a reply to that request) because I have taken many senior level biochem courses during my biology degree. Hoping to get out of at least one of the anatomies... At my school the anatomy course was a kinesiology course and was a single semester with lab, whereas here it sounds like at UBC it is two separate semesters with no lab? I dunno. Totally confuses me.

Quick question! My registration date for UBC courses is this upcoming week based on the Biology program I was going to enter. However, I'm assuming I now have a new registration time altogether for Pharmacy. Does this mean I won't be able to register for non-pharm courses (ex. ANAT or PHYL) with my old registration date? I would have to register these courses at the same time I choose my Pharmacy STT at the new registration time, correct? :confused: (Would that put us at a disadvantage for getting into classes?)

Thanks!

Quick question! My registration date for UBC courses is this upcoming week based on the Biology program I was going to enter. However, I'm assuming I now have a new registration time altogether for Pharmacy. Does this mean I won't be able to register for non-pharm courses (ex. ANAT or PHYL) with my old registration date? I would have to register these courses at the same time I choose my Pharmacy STT at the new registration time, correct? :confused: (Would that put us at a disadvantage for getting into classes?)

Thanks!

Yes, all your courses you register for with your former Science program will be dropped by Enrollment Services when your program is updated. And yes, you will be required to register for all the courses you need during July 18-21.

However, you are not at a disadvantage when registering for required first-year courses, as restricted seats are provided for all Pharmacy students. In the event that the restricted seats are all gone, you may email the course instructors for a "force add".

Grats to everyone who got in!!

Unfortunately, I didn't get an offer but I'll be trying again next year.
I'm entering second year this winter and I'm wondering if any of you have any insight as to how I should plan my courses.

Reading the ubc website, there are some courses that will be used in the admission average (chem, micb, anat) but are "pharmacy electives" (clst, ihhs) also used as part of the admission average?

It's great that you're trying again! :)

I recall when I moved from 1st year to 2nd year, UBC made us apply for our preferred majors (3 choices) online to prepare us. Do you have that too? If so, it would help to know which major you have as a back-up (assuming Pharmacy is your ultimate goal). It would be best to satisfy as many prerequisite courses as possible within your major, while building up your Pharmacy courses (like MICB202, ANAT, etc) at the same time.

Pharmacy electives aren't used in the admission average btw. Only prerequisites to Pharmacy and courses in the mandatory part of the Pharmacy curriculum are used in GPA calculation.

I'm at the U of C so UBC's course titles mean zilch to me. Like I said I think I will get out of BIOL 112/MICB 201, but I suspect I will get stuck with MICB 202, which I guess I don't totally mind.

I think I will definitely get an exemption from biochem (just waiting for a reply to that request) because I have taken many senior level biochem courses during my biology degree. Hoping to get out of at least one of the anatomies... At my school the anatomy course was a kinesiology course and was a single semester with lab, whereas here it sounds like at UBC it is two separate semesters with no lab? I dunno. Totally confuses me.

Ohh okay. Yeah, I took a human anatomy and physiology course with a lab. Probably completely different though. How did you find general biochemistry though in terms of work load/difficulty?

Question to those of you who have experience working in a pharmacy either as a volunteer or technician, etc. How did you go about looking for these positions? Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance!