Discussion here for the new year!

Ooh, very excited to be the first poster on this forum :) My #1 choice, hands down! So excited to get the ball rolling with applying (and hopefully getting accepted!) to this school asap.

Yeah, I'm pretty stoked about this one as well...Let's get these admissions offices open already!

I am super excited as well! Bradenton is my number one choice too! Hopefully we'll be classmates!

I really want to attend this school.

I am applying here too....Let's get the show on the road.

Is anyone aware of when we will be able to fill out the secondary for LECOM-Bradenton?? Do we have to have our AACOMAS verified before we are able to do this? Thanks!

Is anyone aware of when we will be able to fill out the secondary for LECOM-Bradenton?? Do we have to have our AACOMAS verified before we are able to do this? Thanks!

You won't get a secondary until AACOMAS sends your app to the schools and they only do that after it is verified.

Does anyone know the average stats for LECOM-Bradenton? I tried looking it up on their website and go nowhere.

Does anyone know the average stats for LECOM-Bradenton? I tried looking it up on their website and go nowhere.

well there are really no official numbers, but the general idea is 3.4/3.5 & 27/28. and you should be fine. I've seen a bunch of numbers posted with everything from the unrealistically low averages to the "probably not true" high averages. 3.45/27-28 seems to be the best guess.

but take all D.O. school averages with a grain of salt because nothing is official

I know my reasons for wanting to attend but would like to here some of your reasons to make this your #1 pick?

Pretty excited to apply here. Anyone visit the school ever? Can you provide an insight on the school's location and facilities? I've been to Bradenton, FL before but I want to know about the area the school is in.

I know my reasons for wanting to attend but would like to here some of your reasons to make this your #1 pick?

Super easy question! lol

-The location is great. Hot, sunny beaches...it doesn't get much better than that. Florida definitely suits my personality/lifestyle.
-The curriculum is awesome. I am a big fan of PBL. I feel like everyone should carefully assess whether they are suited for PBL or not - this is very individual. I haven't sat in on a session yet (hopefully during the interview I will be able to), but this is the type of independent/group oriented work that I use in school now. I'm not into sitting in on lecture 8 hours a day only to take in very little information and go home and study for another 8 hours to learn it. I'd rather spend 10 hours on my own/in group and know just as much. I don't really need that much guidance. Plus, PBL allows you to keep your "eye on the prize" because they give you cases. IMHO, this allows you to stay focused on why you are learned boring pathways/immuno stuff. For example, if I'm learning about immune system pathways, I can mentally make it relevant/more interesting to learn by thinking, "Well this patient had a high WBC...figure out what is going on there." It's a small difference, but it gives me something to hold on to.
-Cost. LOW, LOW cost...even compared to some MD schools. I'd much rather have $100K less in school loans that some other DO schools, thank-you-very-much.

The small rules that bother others do not really bother me. I've heard tale of the creepy clowns, the no water/food in lectures, and dressing up but everyone is different; figure out what you like. One person's #1 could be someone elses "I would never attend that school in a million years." I know people who won't even apply to LECOM, but for me it's the creme de la creme. *fingers crossed that I get in!*

Hey guys, I'm a rising 4th year LECOM-B student. I'm currently studying for Step 2, but I'll try and answer some questions here about the school if needed.

Keep in mind that anything I say may have changed since I did it, and may change in the future.

Please try and look in the same thread from prior years, as many of the questions have probably been answered.

Overall, it's a great school. PBL is not for everyone, but we have a pretty high success rate at school, so most people make it through it fine. It certainly prepares you well. I'm older (33) and married with kids, so Sarasota was a great town for us, but some of my younger, single classmates complained about it (although I think they're crazy). There's still lots of great bars and things. Impossible to beat Siesta Key Beach (#1 in the US this year, and my favorite spot on the entire planet.)

Clinical years are a mixed bag. You get a LOT of freedom in deciding what you want to do and where you want to go, but you do have to do a lot of the leg work yourself in setting up your rotations. Some people complain about school not helping them enough with this, but I haven't had any problems, but I've also set up most of my own back home in Virginia, where I'm from and where I've been most of this year. My Florida classmates have mostly had great experiences in Florida also, although the rotations that are actually in Bradenton/Sarasota are, for the most part, kinda meh, IMO.

People complain a lot about the LECOM "rules". No food or drink except in the cafeteria. Have to dress up during business hours. Have to swipe your ID badge to get in our out of the building. I never really had a problem with them. The longest you're in any 1 class is 2 hours, and you can always run to the water fountain if you need to. When studying there, it's a good idea to take a study break every hour or two and run to the cafe and get a drink or snack. Most people don't study at school though. Dressing up and badge swiping just prepares you for the real world. You have to do this at hospitals too. Can't be showing up in the OR in your PJ's, with no badge, and chowing down on a Pop-Tart.

Anyways, I've really enjoyed my time at LECOM-B. PBL is hard, but you can do things how you want. Bottom line: You have to do A LOT on your own at this school, but if you can handle that, it's great. If you want to be spoon fed, or have everything laid out for you all nice and neat, this may not be the best place for you.

Hey guys, I'm a rising 4th year LECOM-B student. I'm currently studying for Step 2, but I'll try and answer some questions here about the school if needed.

Keep in mind that anything I say may have changed since I did it, and may change in the future.

Please try and look in the same thread from prior years, as many of the questions have probably been answered.

Overall, it's a great school. PBL is not for everyone, but we have a pretty high success rate at school, so most people make it through it fine. It certainly prepares you well. I'm older (33) and married with kids, so Sarasota was a great town for us, but some of my younger, single classmates complained about it (although I think they're crazy). There's still lots of great bars and things. Impossible to beat Siesta Key Beach (#1 in the US this year, and my favorite spot on the entire planet.)

Clinical years are a mixed bag. You get a LOT of freedom in deciding what you want to do and where you want to go, but you do have to do a lot of the leg work yourself in setting up your rotations. Some people complain about school not helping them enough with this, but I haven't had any problems, but I've also set up most of my own back home in Virginia, where I'm from and where I've been most of this year. My Florida classmates have mostly had great experiences in Florida also, although the rotations that are actually in Bradenton/Sarasota are, for the most part, kinda meh, IMO.

People complain a lot about the LECOM "rules". No food or drink except in the cafeteria. Have to dress up during business hours. Have to swipe your ID badge to get in our out of the building. I never really had a problem with them. The longest you're in any 1 class is 2 hours, and you can always run to the water fountain if you need to. When studying there, it's a good idea to take a study break every hour or two and run to the cafe and get a drink or snack. Most people don't study at school though. Dressing up and badge swiping just prepares you for the real world. You have to do this at hospitals too. Can't be showing up in the OR in your PJ's, with no badge, and chowing down on a Pop-Tart.

Anyways, I've really enjoyed my time at LECOM-B. PBL is hard, but you can do things how you want. Bottom line: You have to do A LOT on your own at this school, but if you can handle that, it's great. If you want to be spoon fed, or have everything laid out for you all nice and neat, this may not be the best place for you.

I guess my only question would be are professors/administrators helpful if asked? Like if I want advice and some help planning rotations or what not, would they take the time to talk to me?

I guess my only question would be are professors/administrators helpful if asked? Like if I want advice and some help planning rotations or what not, would they take the time to talk to me?

During the 1st two years, yes. For rotations...not so much. There's not much to it that you need help with really. You get a list of possible spots, you pick what you want. You enter it all into a computer system. If what you want isn't on there, you try and set it up yourself...there's really not much they can do to help. There's a HUGE variety of spots, all over the country, so you just pick what you want for the most part. Some things are in high demand, especially around the area, and occasionally you'll have to work things out with fellow students if there are limited spots, but I didn't have any problems getting what I wanted...and don't really know anyone who did.

If you want to ask school whats good and bad...you're better off asking your fellow students, who are the ones with the first hand experience.

The clinical ed department has been pretty helpful to me, like when I've wanted to move stuff around on my schedule and things, but it's best if you just follow their rules.

We have a pretty good student run website with reviews of rotations, so you can have a pretty good idea what's good and bad based on that.

Can't be showing up in the OR in your PJ's, with no badge, and chowing down on a Pop-Tart.


I think I may have chosen the wrong profession. :)

We have a pretty good student run website with reviews of rotations, so you can have a pretty good idea what's good and bad based on that.

This is genius and, I would imagine, very helpful to future MS3/MS4

I think I may have chosen the wrong profession. :)

*gasp* me too!! :uhno: ;)

This is genius and, I would imagine, very helpful to future MS3/MS4

It is, mostly. I wish it was more extensive. Then again, a lot of it may not be that helpful.

For example, I've done a lot of rotations back in my hometown with docs who were friends of friends of friends...

I doubt anyone else would want to do these rotations unless they were from here. Not that they're not good, but they're just pretty far off the beaten trail, so to speak. Assuming these docs would even take another student that they didn't know (they don't usually...taking me was kind of a favor, or just because I'm the first one to ever ask them...)

Still, there's a lot of reviews, especially of rotations around Florida, which is pretty helpful. Talk to upperclassmen though when you get to school. It always helps to find out the most recent info, not what some reviewer said about a site 3-5 years ago.

Fresh/new LECOM grad here so I can also try and answer questions as they come up.

But I agree with everything digitlnoize said. Most of your support and information during clinical years in regards to quality of rotation sites will most likely be from fellow students. And like most things you should take some of what you hear with a grain of salt, but you should still get a decent idea of what's out there.

Also, if you're absolutely gunning for something dermatology, surgery, radiology, etc... then it may be beneficial to find a mentor in that field fairly early on in your clinical years. Since we don't have an affiliated campus medical center you're not really going to have a big name "chief of surgery" whom you can go to for advice and/or a letter of rec.

When you start you do have an advisor assigned for the first couple years but they may not be a MD/DO and may not be currently in clinical practice and may not have the best advice or good contacts in the specific field you're interested in.

So, just a coupe things to keep in mind when you hit the clinical years.

For the fresh grads, I found a version of the 2011 match list - below- and was just wondering if you guys have seen an updated version. As a pre-med student how should we interpret these results for LE-Bradenton and what were your thoughts on the match? Also, how much emphasis should one put on a schools match list when choosing between schools? I know it shouldn't be the sole reason for attending and probably shouldn't weigh as much as other factors such as cost, location, learning style etc. but it should serve as some importance right?

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=16876&d=1305743559

As a pre-med student how should we interpret these results for LE-Bradenton and what were your thoughts on the match? Also, how much emphasis should one put on a schools match list when choosing between schools? I know it shouldn't be the sole reason for attending and probably shouldn't weigh as much as other factors such as cost, location, learning style etc. but it should serve as some importance right?

You have to take match lists with a giant grain of salt. I'll show you why using my own, as yet unmatched class as an example:

The person who, as far as I know, got the best board scores in my class (USMLE >270, COMLEX >750) wants to do IM. He might go to a "big name" program, but it depends on where he WANTS to go. Regardless, a DO IM match, even at Hopkins or someplace doesn't impress people usually.

Some other spectacular students in my class want to do Peds, and I know they want "non-impressive" places. University programs in their home states...and they'll probably get them. But, still...it's not going to look impressive.

We have a bunch of students that want to do FM, and another bunch (more than usual) that want to do Psych.

We have what seems like a lot who want to do Ortho, and many of them will likely not get it (not through any fault of their own or LECOM, but simply because ortho is crazy competitive, and many, many people don't get it), and those people will likely wind up in TY hell, or unmatched...unless they rank a backup like Gen Surg, in which case it also won't look impressive.

The problem with basing your decision on the number of Rads matches is that most people don't go to DO school to do radiology. That's not the type of applicant DO schools attract. Hell, it's not the type of applicant any med school attracts, if it wasn't for the salary.

Basically, the moral of the story is that match lists only reflect what they students in that class GOT. It gives you no information about what they wanted. If everyone got what they wanted, it's a great match list. If they didn't, sucks for them, but you'll never know it. The lists that are put out does not reflect who got their #1-5 choices, if that was the specialty they really wanted, or if they settled because they didn't think they could get into, say, ENT, or any other myriad of confounding factors.

Basically, the moral of the story is that match lists only reflect what they students in that class GOT. It gives you no information about what they wanted. If everyone got what they wanted, it's a great match list. If they didn't, sucks for them, but you'll never know it. The lists that are put out does not reflect who got their #1-5 choices, if that was the specialty they really wanted, or if they settled because they didn't think they could get into, say, ENT, or any other myriad of confounding factors.

Thanks for the insight digitlnoize!

Is anyone else obsessed with this whole process? Med school is all I can think about and I just want to get a move on with the app cycle....the days are ticking by slowly. I keep checking the LECOM boards (this past years and all the previous years) constantly, when I really should be working on my summer physics class homework.

Does anyone know what determines when the interviews start for a given cycle? It seems that last year at LECOM-B they interviewed starting the last week in August, but the year before the second week in September. And LECOM-E started interviewing July 16th (WOW!) last year, but Aug 25th the year before that. I hope they interview as early as possible. I want to get an acceptance from here so I can stop applying anywhere else and just withdraw my apps and save the $$/time. Sorry for being neurotic. >.<

Is anyone else obsessed with this whole process? Med school is all I can think about and I just want to get a move on with the app cycle....the days are ticking by slowly.

Yes, it is pretty much all I think about right now other than my CNA course I am taking.. so pretty much I am thinking about it all the time. Should start to get better soon though. I kinda think secondaries, specifically bradenton, will start coming out in the next week starting tomorrow. I guess only time will truly tell though and hopefully we do not get any surprise prompts which we have to write for this school.

Yes, it is pretty much all I think about right now other than my CNA course I am taking.. so pretty much I am thinking about it all the time. Should start to get better soon though. I kinda think secondaries, specifically bradenton, will start coming out in the next week starting tomorrow. I guess only time will truly tell though and hopefully we do not get any surprise prompts which we have to write for this school.


Wait until you are a month away from starting!! I'm going back and forth between super nervous and super excited. Can't wait to move to FL now (3 weeks :D )!!

I'm sure you know from reading other posts, but last year we did not have any essays on the secondary. Very short, basically check the boxes type of thing. Hopefully its the same for you guys!! Good luck :luck:

a month away from starting!!
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Can't wait to move to FL now (3 weeks :D )!!
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Very short, basically check the boxes type of thing. Hopefully its the same for you guys!!
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Good luck to you as well!

Yes, it is pretty much all I think about right now other than my CNA course I am taking.. so pretty much I am thinking about it all the time. Should start to get better soon though. I kinda think secondaries, specifically bradenton, will start coming out in the next week starting tomorrow. I guess only time will truly tell though and hopefully we do not get any surprise prompts which we have to write for this school.

Oh cool, CNA was benefical for me. I've worked as a CNA at a hospital for years now - lots of great experience/connections. It gets you familar with a hospital setting, charting, etc. The most exciting things I do are foley insertions and venipuncture (none of which are exciting, lol), but it's a great way to start.

And I hope there aren't any essays this year. I'm not expecting any. Hopefully they will send out secondaries before June 21st?? Any chance of this? lol. Also hoping they follow the same interview time-line as LECOM-E did last year ;-)

Good luck with the move, Jinxgirl!! Let us know how amazing it is once you start.

How important is a LOR from a DO for LECOM-B? This is probably my number one choice but I don't have a LOR from a physician.

How important is a LOR from a DO for LECOM-B? This is probably my number one choice but I don't have a LOR from a physician.

Isn't it required? I think I had to have one. I was an ER scribe, and we happened to have a DO that worked in the ER, so I just asked her. If you don't have one, hit the phones and call every DO in your area (or outside it, be willing to travel if need be) and go shadow someone for a day or two and get a letter. It can only help.

Still no secondary from this school, right?

Anyone who has already been accepted want to give me some advice? I'm kind of freaking. Got my MCAT score back and scored terribly. My practice exams were around a 30, but I just wanted a 26+ on the actual test. I ended up with a 22...I did the best in the section I thought I bombed [BS] (and remember ~6 questions post-test that I knew and didn't have time to do back in change...which means I should have scored even higher), but the big shocker was VB, in which I scored a 7, even though I NEVER scored below an 11 on even one practice verbal section...and I took ~12. I'm not sure what happened. To be truthful, it feels like I got someone else's score. Anyway, I think I am just having terrible test anxiety, but a score that low is obviously showing a fundamental lack of understanding of the material. I signed up for the July 28th retake and I plan on studying every second between now and then. This is the school for me, I know it...so I'm trying to do everything I can to get it together. My main concern is that on my AACOMAS I indicated I was retaking May 20th, but since I submitted weeks ago (and did not have my score yet), I obviously did not indicate the July retake. I do not want LECOM-B to reject me before seeing my July MCAT score. Does anyone know how I ensure they know I am retaking? I e-mailed Dr. Berezniak to make him aware that I am retaking, but I am not sure this is sufficient. Any advice would be appreciated. Has anyone heard of someone getting an interview at LECOM-B with such a terrible score? Man, this really feels like the end of the world right now. Just trying to keep my head down and push past this so it becomes a distant memory ASAP. Thanks.

Still no secondary from this school, right?

Anyone who has already been accepted want to give me some advice? I'm kind of freaking. Got my MCAT score back and scored terribly. My practice exams were around a 30, but I just wanted a 26+ on the actual test. I ended up with a 22...I did the best in the section I thought I bombed [BS] (and remember ~6 questions post-test that I knew and didn't have time to do back in change...which means I should have scored even higher), but the big shocker was VB, in which I scored a 7, even though I NEVER scored below an 11 on even one practice verbal section...and I took ~12. I'm not sure what happened. To be truthful, it feels like I got someone else's score. Anyway, I think I am just having terrible test anxiety, but a score that low is obviously showing a fundamental lack of understanding of the material. I signed up for the July 28th retake and I plan on studying every second between now and then. This is the school for me, I know it...so I'm trying to do everything I can to get it together. My main concern is that on my AACOMAS I indicated I was retaking May 20th, but since I submitted weeks ago (and did not have my score yet), I obviously did not indicate the July retake. I do not want LECOM-B to reject me before seeing my July MCAT score. Does anyone know how I ensure they know I am retaking? I e-mailed Dr. Berezniak to make him aware that I am retaking, but I am not sure this is sufficient. Any advice would be appreciated. Has anyone heard of someone getting an interview at LECOM-B with such a terrible score? Man, this really feels like the end of the world right now. Just trying to keep my head down and push past this so it becomes a distant memory ASAP. Thanks.

Is Berezniak the contact person now? If so, that should be sufficient. If not, I'd email the administrative non-doctor person too, whoever that is now.

I haven't heard of anyone getting in with a 22, sorry, but I also don't know everyone's score. I also did much worse on the Verbal section than I had on practice tests, but this was 4 years ago.

I myself got a 28R (10B, 8P, 10V). Physics (well, math really) was definitely my weak point, and always will be. I was just too far out of it when I went back to school (I'm a non-trad, and old, well, 33).

The lowest score that I know of in our class is probably a 26, maybe I've heard of a 25, but I'm not sure. Definitely a 26 or two floating around. There could easily be lower scores, I only know a few.

Your best bet is to retake it, although you want to make sure that you fix whatever deficiencies you have before you do so. 1 low score and an awesome retake is ok. 2 low scores becomes harder to correct.

Study a lot and do the hard official practice tests (not #3...in my day the harder ones were like #7,8,9-ish.) ExamKrackers rocks for physics, Kaplan I thought was better for bio.

Good luck!

Still no secondary from this school, right?

Correct. No secondaries yet.

What are you using to train for the MCAT?

Correct. No secondaries yet.

What are you using to train for the MCAT?

ExamKrackers, but it is hard for me to study as much as everyone else simply because I work almost 50 hours a week at a hospital and I am taking a summer physics class at the same time (I need the job to live each month, so I can't quit or cut back). When I took this past exam I had been going to school full time at a top, competitive university (which studying for those classes took up all my time I wasn't working). But even still, I was scoring so well on verbal. I can believe the other two scores (PS and BS) simply due to gaps in my content knowledge due to shortened study time, but the VB I simply do not believe...that's my best section...I usually score 11-13 on AAMC practice tests (3-10, +EK verbal review). If I had scored an 11 on VB at least I would have had my 26. Anyway, I am going to study as much as possible between now and then and just make sure I turn my weak science topics into mastered science topics, that away my science scores can raise. Hopefully that will create more confidence going into VB so I am not so shaken coming off of PS. All I can do in the mean time with VB is continue to practice with the very few passages I have left that I haven't done already - and try and calm down next time I take it. Any other suggestions are def welcome.

ExamKrackers, but it is hard for me to study as much as everyone else simply because I work almost 50 hours a week at a hospital and I am taking a summer physics class at the same time (I need the job to live each month, so I can't quit or cut back). When I took this past exam I had been going to school full time at a top, competitive university (which studying for those classes took up all my time I wasn't working). But even still, I was scoring so well on verbal. I can believe the other two scores (PS and BS) simply due to gaps in my content knowledge due to shortened study time, but the VB I simply do not believe...that's my best section...I usually score 11-13 on AAMC practice tests (3-10, +EK verbal review). If I had scored an 11 on VB at least I would have had my 26. Anyway, I am going to study as much as possible between now and then and just make sure I turn my weak science topics into mastered science topics, that away my science scores can raise. Hopefully that will create more confidence going into VB so I am not so shaken coming off of PS. All I can do in the mean time with VB is continue to practice with the very few passages I have left that I haven't done already - and try and calm down next time I take it. Any other suggestions are def welcome.

Many people say that admissions people look for a more even MCAT score as well. It's not simply the total that counts.

For example: Let's say you got a V12 B7 P7 = 26. That's not going to look as good as someone who got a B9 P9 V8 = 26. Try and shoot for 10's on each section, but AT LEAST 8's. No number below an 8, MINIMUM. If anything, I'd focus on the Biology section the most. Many of the LECOM-B students I've talked to had weaker physics sections, but like me, their strong Bio and Verbal scores made up for it. The verbal scores might (this is pure speculation) be more important at LECOM-B than at some other schools, due to the group interaction and the PBL cases. During the interview, we were actually given a short 1-2 page article to read that we had to discuss with our interviewers 10-15 min after reading it...very low pressure though. It strikes me that this test of reading comprehension and ability to discuss what you've read may be important in a group learning environment like PBL.

Your low verbal score may have been a fluke. Keep doing practice tests on that and see how you're doing. Only do new questions, not ones you've seen before.

Finally, don't overlook the impact of true test anxiety on performance. Many people have real issues with this, especially surrounding such important tests as the MCAT and Board Exams. It could be worth talking to a psychiatrist about. Even something as simple as a sleep aid (if you medically need it, of course) in the nights before the test when you're having trouble sleeping could work wonders for your score.

Finally, I know it might not be ideal, but it might be worth considering getting a graduate degree first, and perhaps taking out a private loan, if you need to, so you can quit your job and do nothing but study. Many of my classmates came to school with Master's degrees (MPH, etc), although I did not.

Many people say that admissions people look for a more even MCAT score as well. It's not simply the total that counts.

For example: Let's say you got a V12 B7 P7 = 26. That's not going to look as good as someone who got a B9 P9 V8 = 26. Try and shoot for 10's on each section, but AT LEAST 8's. No number below an 8, MINIMUM. If anything, I'd focus on the Biology section the most. Many of the LECOM-B students I've talked to had weaker physics sections, but like me, their strong Bio and Verbal scores made up for it. The verbal scores might (this is pure speculation) be more important at LECOM-B than at some other schools, due to the group interaction and the PBL cases. During the interview, we were actually given a short 1-2 page article to read that we had to discuss with our interviewers 10-15 min after reading it...very low pressure though. It strikes me that this test of reading comprehension and ability to discuss what you've read may be important in a group learning environment like PBL.

Your low verbal score may have been a fluke. Keep doing practice tests on that and see how you're doing. Only do new questions, not ones you've seen before.

Finally, don't overlook the impact of true test anxiety on performance. Many people have real issues with this, especially surrounding such important tests as the MCAT and Board Exams. It could be worth talking to a psychiatrist about. Even something as simple as a sleep aid (if you medically need it, of course) in the nights before the test when you're having trouble sleeping could work wonders for your score.

Finally, I know it might not be ideal, but it might be worth considering getting a graduate degree first, and perhaps taking out a private loan, if you need to, so you can quit your job and do nothing but study. Many of my classmates came to school with Master's degrees (MPH, etc), although I did not.

Thanks for such solid advice. I agree with what you've written here. I wish I could do back and do-over, lol. I recalled (after walking out of the testing center) ~5-6 bio questions I missed and didn't have time to return to, but knew. Verbal feels flukey to me just because I did so many practice tests and was very consistent. I do have sleeping pills that I never take, but perhaps I will give that a try in the days leading up to the MCAT in order to relieve some anxiety. I'm taking physics right now, so hopefully that will help me brush up on my physics deficiencies. During practice exams almost all of the problems I missed were organic, so hopefully learning some of that material will help my bio score. I have one more month of studying hard-core and this last shot before I'm out of the running for this cycle. I've talked with my fiance about it and if I do not get in anywhere this cycle, we are going to move to FL at the end of the school year and I'll do a grad program there and re-apply. Hopefully that won't be needed and I can get my MCAT score up this time.

I hate to even say this, but since I've overly got my hopes up to go to FL (and specifically, LECOM-B) I feel like I am going to feel a little let down if I don't get in here this cycle but get in somewhere else instead. The people at LMU-DCOM, for instance, have been talking with me heavily and seem to think a 22 would still give me a shot (esp since I'm in-state and Vandy is well known around here). The main problem with this is that my fiance is so miserable in TN and we've rly been hoping to be able to go to FL...4 more years here (since their clinical years are all done in that area) seems a bit brutal...but I guess the chips will fall where they are supposed to and I'll just see how it works out. I'd be grateful to get in anywhere, since being a doctor is the main goal and being comfortable with where I'm living just might have to take a back-seat.

Anyway, [/hijack thread]. Sorry guys! lol! Go LECOM-B! Hopefully secondaries will be out soon :xf:

Honestly, you're going to be so busy in medical school, that you won't really notice where you are. As long as you're not in the far north with blizzards, I'd tough it out and count yourself lucky.

It's funny, I have a classmate who is DYING to go home to TN, particularly Vandy. Maybe we could orchestrate a trade. Get some connections at Vandy Pediatrics and we'll talk.

Honestly, you're going to be so busy in medical school, that you won't really notice where you are. As long as you're not in the far north with blizzards, I'd tough it out and count yourself lucky.

It's funny, I have a classmate who is DYING to go home to TN, particularly Vandy. Maybe we could orchestrate a trade. Get some connections at Vandy Pediatrics and we'll talk.

Haha!! Hey I do have connections over there. I work at the med center in addition to going to school there. I'll trade her ;-)

How important is a LOR from a DO for LECOM-B? This is probably my number one choice but I don't have a LOR from a physician.

Call Dr. Berezniak about it. He was willing to let me sit down with a DO at the interview and have that guy write me a letter if it was necessary. Thankfully I didn't end up needing it, but it showed me he cares and is understanding.

Hello possible future classmates! :laugh:

Another reason to attend LECOM-B is that they have the highest COMLEX scores among DO schools in the country. I think Erie/Seton Hill is 3rd.

Now just gotta fill out my application. :(

Another reason to attend LECOM-B is that they have the highest COMLEX scores among DO schools in the country. I think Erie/Seton Hill is 3rd.


Is there a place where you can see average board scores for different schools?? I've been wondering about this but haven't been able to dig anything up.

Is there a place where you can see average board scores for different schools?? I've been wondering about this but haven't been able to dig anything up.

Not that I am aware of. I've been told by some of the joint med/pharm professors.

Hello possible future classmates! :laugh:

Another reason to attend LECOM-B is that they have the highest COMLEX scores among DO schools in the country. I think Erie/Seton Hill is 3rd.

Now just gotta fill out my application. :(

There's been some confusion about this. I'm not sure if anyone knows all of the mean scores of the schools.

But, we DO know that LECOM-B has the highest step 1 pass RATE for the last couple of years. The last 2 classes have had a 100% step 1 pass rate. That is, everyone who passed 2nd year also passed the boards. Which made us #1. I would assume that we also have a high mean score, but I haven't seen that particular piece of data.

But, we DO know that LECOM-B has the highest step 1 pass RATE for the last couple of years. The last 2 classes have had a 100% step 1 pass rate. That is, everyone who passed 2nd year also passed the boards. Which made us #1. I would assume that we also have a high mean score, but I haven't seen that particular piece of data.

There was a slide about this in one of our admin hours. It's an excel bar chart, so some of the numbers are hard to pin down exactly. The COMLEX level 1 national average is adjusted to have a mean of about 500 and a standard deviation of ~50 iirc. For the c/o 2012, Erie's mean was ~505, Bradenton was ~525-530. No clue about other schools. Incidentally, the national pass rate on level 1 (according to*the same presentation) is around 88%, which is surprisingly low.

Having just taken COMLEX 1 in the past month, I'd warn you against taking this kind of stuff too seriously. It varies from year-to-year, and comlex is (I think it's fair to say) an odd test.

With the benefit of hindsight, I'd say the most important things to consider are whether PBL will work for you, and (further down the line) whether you're confident the school will have quality rotations for you, especially given the recent expansion of the school.

There was a slide about this in one of our admin hours. It's an excel bar chart, so some of the numbers are hard to pin down exactly. The COMLEX level 1 national average is adjusted to have a mean of about 500 and a standard deviation of ~50 iirc. For the c/o 2012, Erie's mean was ~505, Bradenton was ~525-530. No clue about other schools. Incidentally, the national pass rate on level 1 (according to*the same presentation) is around 88%, which is surprisingly low.

Having just taken COMLEX 1 in the past month, I'd warn you against taking this kind of stuff too seriously. It varies from year-to-year, and comlex is (I think it's fair to say) an odd test.

With the benefit of hindsight, I'd say the most important things to consider are whether PBL will work for you, and (further down the line) whether you're confident the school will have quality rotations for you, especially given the recent expansion of the school.

Are you referring to Seton Hill?

Are you referring to Seton Hill?

No, although the expansion going on at all the campuses makes it hard to keep track! For all I know, they're expanding up there, too.

Each class at Bradenton from the c/o 2008 through the c/o 2014 started with right around 162 people per class. (150 approved spots plus an additional 8% allowed by the AOA to account for "attrition.") We also started with about 8 or 9 people originally from the class ahead of us who were repeating first year.

Starting this fall, with the c/o 2015, there are 182 AOA-approved spots per class at Bradenton. IF they carry over their previous practice of adding the 8% extra they're allowed, you're looking at 196 or 197 people per class, plus another 8 or 9 repeaters. (I don't know for certain that they'll add those extra people they're allowed, but given the school's obsession with growth, I'd bet that they will. Even if they don't, you're still up to 190 people per class, with repeaters.)

Is anyone else having problems accessing the supplemental app? It says to go to "admissions" tab then click on "Applicant D.O.- Bradenton". I see admissions, but i don't see the applicant DO part.

I'm having issues as well. I reloaded a couple of times and the link appeared. Guess they are working on the site as we speak :)

No, although the expansion going on at all the campuses makes it hard to keep track! For all I know, they're expanding up there, too.

Each class at Bradenton from the c/o 2008 through the c/o 2014 started with right around 162 people per class. (150 approved spots plus an additional 8% allowed by the AOA to account for "attrition.") We also started with about 8 or 9 people originally from the class ahead of us who were repeating first year.

Starting this fall, with the c/o 2015, there are 182 AOA-approved spots per class at Bradenton. IF they carry over their previous practice of adding the 8% extra they're allowed, you're looking at 196 or 197 people per class, plus another 8 or 9 repeaters. (I don't know for certain that they'll add those extra people they're allowed, but given the school's obsession with growth, I'd bet that they will. Even if they don't, you're still up to 190 people per class, with repeaters.)

I've always wondered about medical school attrition. How many individuals have you lost?

I've always wondered about medical school attrition. How many individuals have you lost?

I figured this out once, for some reason I can't remember. This may give you some idea:

Class of 2013
We started 1st semester with 172 people, ~163 new students plus 8 or 9 who were repeating 1st year. (EDIT: I think there was a guy who started with us but left in the first week of first year for medical reasons, and I'm not sure he was on the list I got this from.)
We started 2nd semester with 157 people.
We started 3rd semester with 158 people.
We started 4th semester with 158 people.

Anatomy in 1st semester is where a lot of people either realize med school isn't for them, or fail a course and decide to repeat or drop out. When 2nd year started, we picked up at least one person from the class ahead of us who had to repeat 2nd year (which is pretty rare), and there might have been a little more turnover than that.

I didn't know everybody in our class who left, so I'm hesitant to try to explain the numbers too much. From the people I knew, it was a mixture of people who chose to repeat, and people who realized med school wasn't for them, and left. I couldn't tell you whether anyone wanted to repeat, but was forced out.

I will also say, the people I know who repeated, and the people who joined our class as repeaters, have generally done very well.

Separately... this is difficult to write about, though that probably doesn't come across in words on a forum post. We lost a classmate yesterday to a bizarre, tragic accident. RIP Jake.

How does the process with LOR's work at LECOM? They told me they are not required unless you are invited to interview; so I'm guessing that means don't send them until that happens? I want them to have my LOR's when they make that decision.

Separately... this is difficult to write about, though that probably doesn't come across in words on a forum post. We lost a classmate yesterday to a bizarre, tragic accident. RIP Jake.

Sad to hear this.

So I started freaking out when I didn't get Bradenton's secondary when the first reports were coming out yesterday. I waited all day after a friend told me he received his in the morning and I thought it was unusual and odd that I hadn't received one (thinking I got screened out). So I called them today and they said they hadn't received my MCAT score with my AACOMAS application, so they took my MCAT score and I quickly received a secondary. Thanks app. office! Who knows how long this would have taken if I hadn't contacted them so if anyone else is in the same boat I advise you do the same.
:wtf:

Thank you AACOMAS application service for the anxiety you put me through last night and for not sending out an MCAT score taken in January (that was correctly sent to you might I add). I anxiously await anymore wonderful surprises that are in store for this application cycle.

So I started freaking out when I didn't get Bradenton's secondary when the first reports were coming out yesterday. I waited all day after a friend told me he received his in the morning and I thought it was unusual and odd that I hadn't received one (thinking I got screened out). So I called them today and they said they hadn't received my MCAT score with my AACOMAS application, so they took my MCAT score and I quickly received a secondary. Thanks app. office! Who knows how long this would have taken if I hadn't contacted them so if anyone else is in the same boat I advise you do the same.
:wtf:

Thank you AACOMAS application service for the anxiety you put me through last night and for not sending out an MCAT score taken in January (that was correctly sent to you might I add). I anxiously await anymore wonderful surprises that are in store for this application cycle.

uh oh... I might fall into this category too. I guess I'll be calling the LECOM admissions office tomorrow! :rolleyes:

How does the process with LOR's work at LECOM? They told me they are not required unless you are invited to interview; so I'm guessing that means don't send them until that happens? I want them to have my LOR's when they make that decision.

I don't think they take them into consideration at first because of how many apps they get. I'm sure if you sent them anyway they'd keep them on file, but they probably won't be used to help determine if you'll get an interview. I'd just have them on file either with interfolio or your university so that when you're invited for interview you can have them sent right away. I believe they do wait to make a decision until they received them so you'd just be on hold until then. (I've heard if you interview w/o letters and they then contact you about sending them it's a good sign :thumbup:)

I don't think they take them into consideration at first because of how many apps they get. I'm sure if you sent them anyway they'd keep them on file, but they probably won't be used to help determine if you'll get an interview. I'd just have them on file either with interfolio or your university so that when you're invited for interview you can have them sent right away. I believe they do wait to make a decision until they received them so you'd just be on hold until then. (I've heard if you interview w/o letters and they then contact you about sending them it's a good sign :thumbup:)

Cool man, I will hang on to them. Really hoping for an interview invite here :xf:

Congrats on your acceptance by the way!

Cool man, I will hang on to them. Really hoping for an interview invite here :xf:

Congrats on your acceptance by the way!

Thanks! Good luck this cycle if you don't get off a waitlist in the next few weeks. It'd be good to see you in Bradenton next fall :thumbup:

Hey,

Does anyone know when lecom sends sends out secondaries? Is it every week on a specific day? I was verified on 6/23 and my primary was released on the 6/30. I'm just curious on when to expect it.

Thanks and good luck to all my fellow pre-meds.

Any interview invites yet? Hopefully we'll be hearing soon!

Thanks! Good luck this cycle if you don't get off a waitlist in the next few weeks. It'd be good to see you in Bradenton next fall :thumbup:

I appreciate it. Still holding out for AZCOM. It would be good to see you at LECOM. I hope I get a chance here :xf:

Did anyone receive this e-mail before receiving a secondary?

Dear vandyam,

Thank you for applying to the LECOM Erie College of Medicine. The Office of Admissions received your AACOMAS application. It is currently under review and we will contact you regarding the status of your application.

Sincerely,

Office of Admissions

Did anyone receive this e-mail before receiving a secondary?

Dear vandyam,

Thank you for applying to the LECOM Erie College of Medicine. The Office of Admissions received your AACOMAS application. It is currently under review and we will contact you regarding the status of your application.

Sincerely,

Office of Admissions

I didn't get that one. I just got a link to the secondary application.

I didn't get that one. I just got a link to the secondary application.

Seriously? This is no good...I don't understand what is going on. I spoke with Dr. Berezniak and he said they wouldn't make any decision on my application until after my MCAT score (re-take) was released, but I didn't think that meant I wouldn't receive a secondary...I mean, they send them out to everyone ($$). This is my #1 choice so I'm a little nervous now. I got the e-mail this morning. Nova already sent me their secondary...

Seriously? This is no good...I don't understand what is going on. I spoke with Dr. Berezniak and he said they wouldn't make any decision on my application until after my MCAT score (re-take) was released, but I didn't think that meant I wouldn't receive a secondary...I mean, they send them out to everyone ($$). This is my #1 choice so I'm a little nervous now. I got the e-mail this morning. Nova already sent me their secondary...

Got the same email too...I think it should be fine though

Seriously? This is no good...I don't understand what is going on. I spoke with Dr. Berezniak and he said they wouldn't make any decision on my application until after my MCAT score (re-take) was released, but I didn't think that meant I wouldn't receive a secondary...I mean, they send them out to everyone ($$). This is my #1 choice so I'm a little nervous now. I got the e-mail this morning. Nova already sent me their secondary...

They're my #1 choice too. I thought they sent secondaries to everyone. Good luck on the MCAT! And if you don't get a secondary here there are a ton of other schools out there.

Waiting on a secondary invite for Bradenton and Erie here...

We received your supplemental application. The review process will begin on your file. You will be notified when updates are made.

I've been calling the admissions office routinely and they STILL "haven't received MCAT scores" - but they just tell me to keep calling, like, every day. anyone else still in the same boat?

Seriously? This is no good...I don't understand what is going on. I spoke with Dr. Berezniak and he said they wouldn't make any decision on my application until after my MCAT score (re-take) was released, but I didn't think that meant I wouldn't receive a secondary...I mean, they send them out to everyone ($$). This is my #1 choice so I'm a little nervous now. I got the e-mail this morning. Nova already sent me their secondary...

Got the "reviewing" email and received secondary ~week later...

Got the "reviewing" email and received secondary ~week later...

Thanks a lot. I was starting to get worried. :)

I've been calling the admissions office routinely and they STILL "haven't received MCAT scores" - but they just tell me to keep calling, like, every day. anyone else still in the same boat?

Last week (Tuesday) when I called they said they had not received them yet. Today when I called they said they had received my scores and my file was complete and currently awaiting review. So hopefully your scores are also received now and best of luck!

Last week (Tuesday) when I called they said they had not received them yet. Today when I called they said they had received my scores and my file was complete and currently awaiting review. So hopefully your scores are also received now and best of luck!

Yup, I received and submitted the secondary yesterday, after calling yet again. They probably got sick of hearing my voice hahah.

I just submitted my secondary...do you guys know what the deal is with rec. letters? Do we have them sent somewhere or wait for further instructions?


Thanks

I just submitted my secondary...do you guys know what the deal is with rec. letters? Do we have them sent somewhere or wait for further instructions?


Thanks

Yeah. In the supplemental app it says that they will not look at letters unless invited to interview. So if you have them in Interfolio or virtual eval, etc. I think you are good to go, at this point.

I guess my AACOMAS application was released today because I got the LECOM-B secondary. Sweet!

Edit: Submitted. Wow, that was a much appreciated simple secondary.

I guess my AACOMAS application was released today because I got the LECOM-B secondary. Sweet!

Edit: Submitted. Wow, that was a much appreciated simple secondary.

Yeah, I just finished it too. It's a good way to start the secondary process.

Got the reviewing your app and waiting for secondary for Bradenton.

I just checked the portal and it says "Congratulations, you have been scheduled for an interview at LECOM Bradenton. You will receive an email 10 days prior to your scheduled interview to reconfirm your attendance". I never received any other emails from them. Anybody else get this? I hope its for real!

I just checked the portal and it says "Congratulations, you have been scheduled for an interview at LECOM Bradenton. You will receive an email 10 days prior to your scheduled interview to reconfirm your attendance". I never received any other emails from them. Anybody else get this? I hope its for real!

Call them up. They are easy to get and accommodating on the phone. I interviewed there a couple of years ago, and not only are they are good on the phone, they have an amazingly creepy collection of clown art on the top floor. Oil paintings, watercolors and more...... no joke. creepy. Make sure to check it out on your interview...

I just checked the portal and it says "Congratulations, you have been scheduled for an interview at LECOM Bradenton. You will receive an email 10 days prior to your scheduled interview to reconfirm your attendance". I never received any other emails from them. Anybody else get this? I hope its for real!

Same here. Getting excited but trying not to assume anything. :xf:.

I just checked the portal and it says "Congratulations, you have been scheduled for an interview at LECOM Bradenton. You will receive an email 10 days prior to your scheduled interview to reconfirm your attendance". I never received any other emails from them. Anybody else get this? I hope its for real!

Was wondering what your stats are.. and if you're in state or out of state. I turned my secondary in a while ago (almost a month ago actually) and haven't seen any changes on my app status ):

Got the interview status too!!

I got the interview status also!!

For those who got interviews, are you guys all in state residents?

I'm from Oregon. Just got the email confirming the status change in the portal. interviewing 8/26 :D

I'm from Texas and I got an invite too.

I'm OOS, and scheduled for 8-19. Wondering what the timeline for the deposit is exactly. I'm worried since this interview is so early, I won't know from other schools yet. The lady on the phone said usually 4-6 weeks.

Just got an email saying that my Bradenton interview will end at 2:30pm now, but I never actually received an email saying I had an interview. Called the office and I guess they forgot to email me that part! haha. Cleared everything up, interviewing 8/26!

Congrats on all the interviews! I was wondering what some of you guys stats were?

I'm from Texas and I got an invite too.

I'm from NY and interviewing on 8/19 as well! WOOOO!

...they have an amazingly creepy collection of clown art on the top floor. Oil paintings, watercolors and more...... no joke. creepy. Make sure to check it out on your interview...

:laugh: can't wait to see for myself! that's kind of hilarious

Interviewing 8/19! Illinois resident.

I'm OOS, and scheduled for 8-19. Wondering what the timeline for the deposit is exactly. I'm worried since this interview is so early, I won't know from other schools yet. The lady on the phone said usually 4-6 weeks.

Just checked the 2012 AACOM info book, LECOM doesn't obey the aacom guidelines, you only have 30 days to accept an invitation to matriculate.

Interview invite today!!

GA resident here.

ok now i am getting worried and depressed. I submitted my secondary 6/29 and still it says that my secondary has been sent to the committee for further rreview...i guess maybe my mcat score is posing a problem. those of you who got interview invites, mind sharing ur stats (science, overall gpa, and mcat with breakdown) I am getting orried even though i know its early :(

ok now i am getting worried and depressed. I submitted my secondary 6/29 and still it says that my secondary has been sent to the committee for further rreview...i guess maybe my mcat score is posing a problem. those of you who got interview invites, mind sharing ur stats (science, overall gpa, and mcat with breakdown) I am getting orried even though i know its early :(

I'm with ya. I submitted pretty early too and I have the same status as you. We are still early in the process, so don't be depressed!!

Btw, for those who got interview invites. Did you guys get an email for it? Or did the status just change?

I'm with ya. I submitted pretty early too and I have the same status as you. We are still early in the process, so don't be depressed!!

Btw, for those who got interview invites. Did you guys get an email for it? Or did the status just change?

I find out about it because my status changed in the portal, but i got the email the next day

Ah ok thanks for the information. Man. Where's my interview invite?!

interviewing 8/29. is everyone planning on renting a car out of the tampa airport?

interviewing 8/29. is everyone planning on renting a car out of the tampa airport?

I was wondering the same thing. Are there shuttles from the airport or anything like that?

I interviewed at SOMA and AZCOM and in Phoenix there were shuttles from the airport to the hotels/schools.

Interviewing 8/12... Florida resident... 3.4 sGPA undergrad... 3.8 sGPA MS-thesis... 28P (9/9/10)

Good luck to everyone.. does anyone know how long it usually takes to find out if your accepted after the interview? 30 days to accept matriculation worries me a little..

ok now i am getting worried and depressed. I submitted my secondary 6/29 and still it says that my secondary has been sent to the committee for further rreview...i guess maybe my mcat score is posing a problem. those of you who got interview invites, mind sharing ur stats (science, overall gpa, and mcat with breakdown) I am getting orried even though i know its early :(

Same here! I'm really bummed about this.
I'm from CA, SciGPA 3.65, MCAT 30. Where's my invite?!?! ):

omg u have a 30 and no interview invite? my mcat score is low thats why i thought they didnt like my application.....

omg u have a 30 and no interview invite? my mcat score is low thats why i thought they didnt like my application.....

I don't know... I guess we'll find out sooner or later. Wish I could find out sooner haha. I really am bummed. I was so sure I'd get an invite during the first round! I think I need to lower my hopes a bit.

I don't know... I guess we'll find out sooner or later. Wish I could find out sooner haha. I really am bummed. I was so sure I'd get an invite during the first round! I think I need to lower my hopes a bit.

Consider this. DO schools are known for having lower GPA and MCAT averages than MD schools. Your stats are more typical of an MD matriculant rather than DO. Are you applying to MD schools as well?

DO schools might hesitate to take someone with significantly higher grades and scores because they might think you will choose an MD school over their school. That is why you really have to show how committed you are to osteopathic medicine. That's why so many secondaries ask "why DO?" They don't want to be your backup if you don't get into an MD program.

So in a way, it's a good thing. Not saying you won't get an interview invite here later on of course...just something to consider for now. Your stats are great. I'm sure you'll be fine.

Consider this. DO schools are known for having lower GPA and MCAT averages than MD schools. Your stats are more typical of an MD matriculant rather than DO. Are you applying to MD schools as well?

DO schools might hesitate to take someone with significantly higher grades and scores because they might think you will choose an MD school over their school. That is why you really have to show how committed you are to osteopathic medicine. That's why so many secondaries ask "why DO?" They don't want to be your backup if you don't get into an MD program.

So in a way, it's a good thing. Not saying you won't get an interview invite here later on of course...just something to consider for now. Your stats are great. I'm sure you'll be fine.

Interesting take on things. I actually haven't applied to any MD schools.. nor am I planning to...
Well, I'm still hoping for an interview!

Interesting take on things. I actually haven't applied to any MD schools.. nor am I planning to...
Well, I'm still hoping for an interview!

Here's to hoping an invite comes your way. It's very early.

Why haven't you applied to MD schools? I applied to 3 so far.

Here's to hoping an invite comes your way. It's very early.

Why haven't you applied to MD schools? I applied to 3 so far.

Since my chances of getting into a DO school are higher than an MD school, what's the point of applying MD? My goal is to be a physician... doesn't matter what the letters are (to me). Also, I genuinely appreciate and believe in the osteopathic philosophy... yes, sounds cheesy but is true (:

Interviewing 8/19. Texas resident here.

Since my chances of getting into a DO school are higher than an MD school, what's the point of applying MD? My goal is to be a physician... doesn't matter what the letters are (to me). Also, I genuinely appreciate and believe in the osteopathic philosophy... yes, sounds cheesy but is true (:

That makes sense. I prefer osteopathic philosophy as well, which is why I am doing DO.

Applying broadly is very important as well in my experience. That's one reason I would suggest applying to MD schools. I understand your reasoning though. I am applying to as many schools as I can afford to. In the end it is a numbers game. Some schools will look at your application and pass while others really want you. It's hard to predict what will happen. The app process is really a combination of doing everything you can to improve your app and then relying on luck for the rest of the way.

That makes sense. I prefer osteopathic philosophy as well, which is why I am doing DO.

Applying broadly is very important as well in my experience. That's one reason I would suggest applying to MD schools. I understand your reasoning though. I am applying to as many schools as I can afford to. In the end it is a numbers game. Some schools will look at your application and pass while others really want you. It's hard to predict what will happen. The app process is really a combination of doing everything you can to improve your app and then relying on luck for the rest of the way.

Hmm I never thought about it that way. If along the way, I don't end up getting early interview invites, I'll probably apply to more DO schools (right now, I'm only sending in 8). Thanks for the tips!

Interesting take on things. I actually haven't applied to any MD schools.. nor am I planning to...
Well, I'm still hoping for an interview!

LECOM-B stats are fairly impressive, and higher than many MD schools now. The ones on the website are outdated (a lot). I have many classmates who only applied to DO schools.

I applied to both, but only because we would have liked to have stayed in our hometown, and the nearest DO school was ~3 hours away (and I didn't even like that one). So the choice was either very competitive MD school that I didn't stand a chance in hell of getting into, or any MD or DO school.

I cared less about the MD/DO distinction than about the curriculum and what would be the best fit for me, and the best location for my family (wife and daughter). LECOM-B was perfect, and very happy we went here.

I would recommend applying to MD schools if you think you're competitive. Not because there is anything wrong with DO school (I've had a great experience), but because it simply increases your odds. Philosophy is more up to the individual than the letters after their name. If you believe in treating the "whole patient", you'll do that regardless of MD/DO. If you really want to learn OMM, it's not that hard, and you can do it as an MD (although most do it after med school.) There's an MD in my town that does only OMM, and is the only guy in town who does it, including 3 DOs.

Go to the cheapest school that is the best fit for you.

I was wondering the same thing. Are there shuttles from the airport or anything like that?

I interviewed at SOMA and AZCOM and in Phoenix there were shuttles from the airport to the hotels/schools.

No shuttles from Tampa to Sarasota that I know of. It's an hour drive + toll.

I would HIGHLY recommend flying into Sarasota (SRQ) if you can find a good deal. It's usually only ~$25-50 more than Tampa (although you usually have to make a connector flight) but it's so much easier and CLOSER.

I use www.kayak.com to find good flight deals.

Most people rent cars (I did) and I would highly recommend it. It gives you the opportunity to really explore the area. I spent the entire day before my interview hanging out in Lakewood Ranch, downtown Bradenton, downtown Sarasota, near school, Siesta Key Beach, all over the place. You really want to get a feel of where you'll be living the next 2-4 years (depending on where you decide to do your rotations).

No shuttles from Tampa to Sarasota that I know of. It's an hour drive + toll.

I would HIGHLY recommend flying into Sarasota (SRQ) if you can find a good deal. It's usually only ~$25-50 more than Tampa (although you usually have to make a connector flight) but it's so much easier and CLOSER.

I use www.kayak.com to find good flight deals.

Most people rent cars (I did) and I would highly recommend it. It gives you the opportunity to really explore the area. I spent the entire day before my interview hanging out in Lakewood Ranch, downtown Bradenton, downtown Sarasota, near school, Siesta Key Beach, all over the place. You really want to get a feel of where you'll be living the next 2-4 years (depending on where you decide to do your rotations).

Thanks for the tips!

Turned in secondary app. How long did it take you peeps that are interviewing get the invite?

Turned in secondary app. How long did it take you peeps that are interviewing get the invite?

Turned in secondary app. June 29. Received interview invite yesterday, July 26.

Im guessing if you indicated you are retaking the mcat they wont give an interview until they get the new mcat score. Mine says The Admissions Committee requests your MCAT score. So im guessing thats others hold ups as well.

Hi all, just a quick question to those who have been invited for an interview. My LECOM-B admissions portal status says "Congratulations, you have been scheduled for an interview at LECOM Bradenton. You will receive an email 10 days prior to your scheduled interview to reconfirm your attendance" but says nothing of the date. I am just wondering how you found out the date you are to be interviewed. Thanks.

-In case anyone is interested in my stats, I have a 4.0 science GPA, 3.95 non-science GPA, 3.98 cumulative GPA, and MCAT of 26T.

Hi all, just a quick question to those who have been invited for an interview. My LECOM-B admissions portal status says "Congratulations, you have been scheduled for an interview at LECOM Bradenton. You will receive an email 10 days prior to your scheduled interview to reconfirm your attendance" but says nothing of the date. I am just wondering how you found out the date you are to be interviewed. Thanks.

-In case anyone is interested in my stats, I have a 4.0 science GPA, 3.95 non-science GPA, 3.98 cumulative GPA, and MCAT of 26T.

They sent an e-mail saying when the interview date was. I received the e-mail 24 hours after my portal status changed to "congratulations, invited for interview".

Is there an intermediate status between the "we're reviewing your application" and the interview invite status? Or, alternatively, if you're not offered an interview invite, does it just stay on the reviewing status?

I have a feeling this application season is making me more neurotic than usual :rolleyes:. Who's with me?

Is anyone else in the same boat?

I sent my secondary on 6/28 and my status still says "We received your supplemental application. The review process will begin on your file. You will be notified when updates are made."
I called them to ask about my status about 2 weeks ago and they said it is now "under review" however, my status hasn't changed (like LECOM-erie - their status changes with every move they make).

Do you think something is wrong (like an incomplete app - even though they said I was complete)? Are they generally slow in updating the status?
Should I keep calling them, I don't want to "bother" them so much especially since they say its "under review".

hey i am getting that same status too. if it doesnt change by tomorrow, i am calling them

Im guessing if you indicated you are retaking the mcat they wont give an interview until they get the new mcat score. Mine says The Admissions Committee requests your MCAT score. So im guessing thats others hold ups as well.

I indicated a retake and was invited... but my first test was 28 so maybe its already high enough..

Is there an intermediate status between the "we're reviewing your application" and the interview invite status? Or, alternatively, if you're not offered an interview invite, does it just stay on the reviewing status?

I have a feeling this application season is making me more neurotic than usual :rolleyes:. Who's with me?

I think your more neurotic than usual hahaha. But that's the life of a med school applicant right?

I too am still on the "we're reviewing your application" status but I only submitted mine yesterday.

Interviewing 8/12. Anyone else interviewing that day?

Im guessing if you indicated you are retaking the mcat they wont give an interview until they get the new mcat score. Mine says The Admissions Committee requests your MCAT score. So im guessing thats others hold ups as well.

No wonder. I have the same message, also. I was freaking out wondering why my MCAT scores weren't submitted. Hopefully it is because they are waiting for my retake.

Same here! I'm really bummed about this.
I'm from CA, SciGPA 3.65, MCAT 30. Where's my invite?!?! ):

Awww crap. I submitted my secondary two days ago. I hope I get an interview invite in a couple weeks.

My stats: 3.14 cGPA, 2.96 sGPA, MCAT 33Q, CA Resident

/crosses fingers

Awww crap. I submitted my secondary two days ago. I hope I get an interview invite in a couple weeks.

My stats: 3.14 cGPA, 2.96 sGPA, MCAT 33Q, CA Resident

/crosses fingers
That is going to hurt you. Ask Dbdan about his cycle last year. He was another applicant with a sub 3.0 sGPA. I'm sure he could be of some use when it comes time to answering questions about that and I can almost asure you that you will be doing that.

I've got an 8/26 interview date. I had an 8/12 but had to switch it because of a prior engagement. I hope that 2 week difference won't hurt me too bad.

Last year I applied to LECOM-B very late and received an interview. Although, I decided to take a year off before starting school so I withdrew my application before my interview. Will this affect how they view my application this year? I have already applied (I think my application was complete and my secondary was sent off by July 8th) but I have not received an interview yet. I'm starting to worry! My stats are 3.79 GPA and 26 MCAT. What should I do and what do you think about my situation?? Thanks!!

I have an interview 8/29, anyone else interviewing?

I have an interview 8/29, anyone else interviewing?

my status still says sending for review...when was ur file complete. Mine was complete on 7/12

That is going to hurt you. Ask Dbdan about his cycle last year. He was another applicant with a sub 3.0 sGPA. I'm sure he could be of some use when it comes time to answering questions about that and I can almost asure you that you will be doing that.

Hey,

Yea, funny you mention DbDan. His app is exactly like mine (~3.0 gpa and 33 on MCAT). I sent a PM to DbDan asking him exactly this about a week or two ago. It wouldn't be <3.0 but I took a few courses @ community college during high school and AACOMAS counts it... ridiculous if you ask me. I'm going to be taking more science courses this fall but my app won't be updated until Decemberish when I finish fall semester.

Are you guys staying at hotels near the beach or near the school?

SDN LECOM-B interview beach party!

Are you guys staying at hotels near the beach or near the school?

SDN LECOM-B interview beach party!

I was gonna get a hotel near the school for convenience. Unless the beach is fairly close...

On a side note, how old do you have to be to rent a car? I am 23. If I can't rent a car, I don't know what I will do out there. Taxi maybe?

I was gonna get a hotel near the school for convenience. Unless the beach is fairly close...

On a side note, how old do you have to be to rent a car? I am 23. If I can't rent a car, I don't know what I will do out there. Taxi maybe?

The beach looks reasonably close. Within a 15-20 minute drive (at least Google Maps looks like it). You can rent a car if you're 23, you will have to pay a younger driver surcharge though. It adds something like $10-20 a day, so it's not cheap, but you gotta do what you gotta do.

The beach looks reasonably close. Within a 15-20 minute drive (at least Google Maps looks like it). You can rent a car if you're 23, you will have to pay a younger driver surcharge though. It adds something like $10-20 a day, so it's not cheap, but you gotta do what you gotta do.

Yeah, the under 25 additional charge definitely sucks. Check and see if your parents have a triple a motor club membership. Mine do, so I think I get a discount. Also, I would advise to not get the additional insurance that these rental companies offer which is expensive. I talked to my insurance guy and he said that rentals are covered under my plan (check with yours to make sure). The only thing though is if the car is wrecked, you have to compensate for the money they would make from renting the car out, which does suck. AKA, do not wreck it.

The beach is close and I will be making the trip. I fly in on Thurday to the Bradenton/Sarasota airport from Charlotte, NC so I think i get in about 11. Not sure if I will go that afternoon though. I don't depart until Saturday so I will probably be waiting until post interview to beach it up.

Definitely stay near school. Anywhere near Lakewood Ranch, Univ. Blvd, or Rt 64 is fine. Even the Econo Lodge isn't that bad for an Econo Lodge (although if you have the money, pop for something better).

Go to Siesta Key Public Beach. It's about 20-30 minutes from school, but only about 5-10 min further than the other, much crappier beaches. Worth the extra couple of minutes. #1 beach in the USA this year. Don't expect giant waves though, the surf is pretty calm, but it's very relaxing, warm water, and amazing sand.

There was something mentioned about a shuttle service from the airport when I interviewed a couple of years back, but it was ~$70 one-way from Tampa, or $35 one-way from the Sarasota airport. Even with whatever extra fees the rental car places throw at you, it's got to be cheaper than that. Lakewood Ranch (the section of Bradenton where the school is located) is a suburban area without much public transportation, so... yeah, you need a car, especially if you want to hit Siesta Key or any of the other beaches.

This is why we should all try to figure out if any of us are going to be there on the same day. Shared expenses... I was looking at the Country inn/suites, $64.50/nt, right by the school. I'm going to call tomorrow and find out if they have a shuttle to the airport. If they do, I will taxi to the school. If not, I will rent a car. I'll be there 8/27-8/29 (after the interview)...
There are cheaper hotels/motels, but they are further.. Days Inn on hotels.com=38$/nt...

@Koala, 7/9

I booked Country inn & suites by the school through priceline for 54$/nt, I also booked my rental car through priceline for 14$/day. I'm staying 8/27-8/29....

SDN LECOM-B interview beach party!

:thumbup:

Any new interview invites?? Do they send them out in batches or a few each week?

Any new interview invites?? Do they send them out in batches or a few each week?

Got an invite today! For Aug 29.
Fyi.. Im OOS. Sci gpa 3.65; mcat 30
Sent in my supp app on 6/28.

k i just checked on the status on my portal..and I have a weird one....

"The Admissions Committee requests all letters of recommendation before making a decision on your file"

i thought we send in rec letters once we get an interview invite...now their office is even closed. will call them first in the morning. i wonder if they are unsure of giving me an interview with my iffy mcat score and thats why they need my letters? anyone else get a similar status?

It sucks having to wait for my new mcat score :(

Congrats!
Man I'm still waiting on my invite :(

k i just checked on the status on my portal..and I have a weird one....

"The Admissions Committee requests all letters of recommendation before making a decision on your file"

i thought we send in rec letters once we get an interview invite...now their office is even closed. will call them first in the morning. i wonder if they are unsure of giving me an interview with my iffy mcat score and thats why they need my letters? anyone else get a similar status?

Interesting... Let us know what they say tomorrow! Good luck!

I have an interview set for August 12! I see two others that have that interview date. It seems like this is the earliest interview date for this school! I am getting nervous! :scared:

This is going to be an expensive trip!!

>$400 for the flight from CA to Bradenton
~$80 for car rental
~$40 for one night stay at the Econo Lodge

):

Has anyone had this experience..
I applied through AACOMAS in mid july and it was released on 7/21. Have not received a secondary yet. Just received an email basically asking me to apply (to LECOM in generally not specifically LECOM-B)...but its not a secondary and its to an email address I did not use in my AACOMAS application (but is the one I used to register for my upcoming MCAT)

Has anyone had this experience..
I applied through AACOMAS in mid july and it was released on 7/21. Have not received a secondary yet. Just received an email basically asking me to apply (to LECOM in generally not specifically LECOM-B)...but its not a secondary and its to an email address I did not use in my AACOMAS application (but is the one I used to register for my upcoming MCAT)

You should call or email LECOM and ask if they have received your primary application and why you haven't received the secondary yet. It never hurts to ask them directly! :)

Has anyone had this experience..
I applied through AACOMAS in mid july and it was released on 7/21. Have not received a secondary yet. Just received an email basically asking me to apply (to LECOM in generally not specifically LECOM-B)...but its not a secondary and its to an email address I did not use in my AACOMAS application (but is the one I used to register for my upcoming MCAT)

That's happening to me, as well. I added LECOM-B the second week of July, called them a few days ago, and they told me to call later this week.. they're planning to upload another batch of primaries soon.

I got LECOM-Erie interview invite a week ago, but I still haven't heard back from Bradenton :(

c3.6/s3.5 MCAT28

You should email them, the Erie campus had a 'glitch' with my app and my secondary didn't come until I asked them about it.

Dr. Kwon, That is why I posted what I did for my stuff. I got my rental car for 14$/day and Country Inn and Suites for 54$/nt... on priceline. The flight I can't help with... but I bid on my stuff through price line....

I looked in my admissions portal this morning and my status has changed to "The Admissions Committee requests all letters of recommendation before making a decision on your file." What does this mean? I applied last year and received an interview, but I withdrew my application before the interview. Did I ruin my chances at this school by doing that??

I looked in my admissions portal this morning and my status has changed to "The Admissions Committee requests all letters of recommendation before making a decision on your file." What does this mean? I applied last year and received an interview, but I withdrew my application before the interview. Did I ruin my chances at this school by doing that??

i received this status too, but its my first time applying. i am a feeling mine is because of my iffy mcat score n they want my letters to determine whether they will give me an interview invite or not.

Thanks guys! Im going to give them until next week, and then I will be sure to call!

Interesting thing happened today.

I've had the "under review" status for quite a long time, so I decided to call them. The lady on the phone told me that it was weird I didn't get an interview, and she went to look at my file. When she came back, she asked me "so which day would you want to come in for an interview?" :D that's how I got my interview invite haha

I looked in my admissions portal this morning and my status has changed to "The Admissions Committee requests all letters of recommendation before making a decision on your file." What does this mean? I applied last year and received an interview, but I withdrew my application before the interview. Did I ruin my chances at this school by doing that??

I'm going to go out on a limb and and say yes. What was your logic behind turning down interviews before you had an acceptance?

I'm going to go out on a limb and and say yes. What was your logic behind turning down interviews before you had an acceptance?

Right after I started applying my grandmother was diagnosed with cancer and progressively got worse. I did not want to leave the area while she was sick and therefore I withdrew my applications from every school I applied to. She has since passed away so now there is no need for me to remain in my home town.

SO When I log in I get this message for my status:

"The Admissions Committee has made a decision on your application. You will receive an official letter in the mail within 30 days."

Doesnt sound too good. I'm guessing rejection but wanted to see what anyone else thought or if you've had this status too.

SO When I log in I get this message for my status:

"The Admissions Committee has made a decision on your application. You will receive an official letter in the mail within 30 days."

Doesnt sound too good. I'm guessing rejection but wanted to see what anyone else thought or if you've had this status too.

I remember someone from last year got this message... and it was a rejection letter ): I hope I'm wrong, but it's a big possibility. I'm sorry :(

Well, there are two choices for the admin 1. it's a rejection, or 2. they interview. Since we know for a fact you receive an email for the interview, it cannot be that. So I am sorry about that. What are your stats if you don't mind sharing?

Well, there are two choices for the admin 1. it's a rejection, or 2. they interview. Since we know for a fact you receive an email for the interview, it cannot be that. So I am sorry about that. What are your stats if you don't mind sharing?

i am so scared too if i will even get an interview. my mcat is too low :(

Right after I started applying my grandmother was diagnosed with cancer and progressively got worse. I did not want to leave the area while she was sick and therefore I withdrew my applications from every school I applied to. She has since passed away so now there is no need for me to remain in my home town.
Im sorry to hear that man. My best friend was just going through a similar situation with his grandfather and law school, and unfortunately his grandfather passed last week so his decision was made for him. If I were you I would make sure that all the schools you dropped before are aware of this because if they are not they will just assume that you dropped them for a stupid reason and that will probably be the end of your app. I cant remember who it was right now but there was someone from last cycle that had gotten in during the 2009-2010 cycle and did not attend but was reapplying for some reason. Despite her great GPA and like 33 MCAT she did not even get an interview.

Im sorry to hear that man. My best friend was just going through a similar situation with his grandfather and law school, and unfortunately his grandfather passed last week so his decision was made for him. If I were you I would make sure that all the schools you dropped before are aware of this because if they are not they will just assume that you dropped them for a stupid reason and that will probably be the end of your app. I cant remember who it was right now but there was someone from last cycle that had gotten in during the 2009-2010 cycle and did not attend but was reapplying for some reason. Despite her great GPA and like 33 MCAT she did not even get an interview.


Who can I contact and give that information to at LECOM-B? p.s. I'm a girl!! lol

Who can I contact and give that information to at LECOM-B? p.s. I'm a girl!! lol
Haha in my book dude is unisex. I even say that to my mom on occasion. Hmmm I would call Ron Shively's office. You will probaby have to speak to Sarah Buck she is his gate keeper, but is very nice and helpful. Ron is probably the most helpful one on the matter and will definitely be willing to speak with you.

Hey guys,

Have any of you tried to reschedule your assigned interview? I'm interviewing at another school in Florida end of August and it would be nice if I only had to make one trip out there. I keep trying to get a hold of Britney at the admissions office but haven't heard back from her yet.

Hey all,

I'm not sure if you saw this, but if you have bought a ticket over the last week weeks, make sure you check out your receipt and taxes paid. Technically, the FAA isn't collecting its normal fees, so your ticket should be cheaper than usual (about $30).

However, most of the airlines raised their ticket prices! The IRS is saying you should get a refund. Make sure you spread the news around. I posted the article from the Huffington Post.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/30/faa-shutdown_n_912820.htm (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/30/faa-shutdown_n_912820.html)l

I hope this helps some of you get some money back for expensive plane rides to Florida.

I have a day to do some sightseeing before my interview. What should I do any suggestions?

Which hotels are you guys staying at? I called some of them, and none of them really offer free shuttles to/from the airport and to/from LECOM

I have a day to do some sightseeing before my interview. What should I do any suggestions?
Since you are from the north I would definitely suggest going to Lido Key. The drive out there is beautiful and the beach is amazing. Others may say siesta but you probably won't have time to properly enjoy the beach anyway so that place is useless. Outside of beachy things there aren't really any great sight seeing experiences here. Lucky Pelican is a great option for dinner as well if you are into seafood. I am heading there tonight for my pregame meal since we have our first test tomorrow.

I have a 3.6 cgpa and 3.65 sgpa
my MCAT is august 23 but im only scoring between 22- 25

I am really interested in LECOM-B...do you think I still have a chance?

Since you are from the north I would definitely suggest going to Lido Key. The driver out there is beautiful and the beach is amazing. Others may say siesta but you probably won't have time to properly enjoy the beach anyway so that place is useless. Outside of beachy things there aren't really any great sight seeing experiences here. Lucky Pelican is a great option for dinner as well if you are into seafood. I am heading there tonight for my pregame meal since we have our first test tomorrow.

Sounds good... I see there is an aquarium there, thought about that but not a for sure, thanks for the dinner idea! Do we get to meet any students? You should wear a 'gators' pin or something so we know it's you ;)

I have a 3.6 cgpa and 3.65 sgpa
my MCAT is august 23 but im only scoring between 22- 25

I am really interested in LECOM-B...do you think I still have a chance?

If you get a 22 then it is probably over for you, but if you got a 25+ with your GPA then I think you would get some consideration. Do you have a lot of ECs or a great life story to make up for a low MCAT?

I logged on to the candidate portal this morning and the admissions tab where you view the admissions status was missing... does anyone else have this problem?

I submitted my secondary on 7/27 and it still says "They received it, please wait blah blah". I submitted Erie's the same day, was marked as "Being Reviewed" within a week and got an Interview Invite today. Should I ask Bradenton what's up, or am I just being typical SDN Neurotic?

I submitted my secondary on 7/27 and it still says "They received it, please wait blah blah". I submitted Erie's the same day, was marked as "Being Reviewed" within a week and got an Interview Invite today. Should I ask Bradenton what's up, or am I just being typical SDN Neurotic?

Lol, I was thinking this a couple weeks ago... so I just called Bradenton and asked why it was taking so long. They probably give everyone the same general answer: It will be reviewed soon. But I did get an interview invite last week, and I submitted the 2ndary on 6/28...

I submitted my secondary on 7/27 and it still says "They received it, please wait blah blah". I submitted Erie's the same day, was marked as "Being Reviewed" within a week and got an Interview Invite today. Should I ask Bradenton what's up, or am I just being typical SDN Neurotic?

I submitted 7/20, and I haven't heard anything either. I think they're just slowly making their way through applications. I wouldn't rush it too much. Remember that LECOM doesn't follow the typical Dec 15th deposit deadline.

Everyone just needs to SLOW DOWN! If your questioning why you haven't gotten an interview invite yet, then you need to stop being so arrogant and stop worrying. If you honestly think there is a chance your app fell out of the pile only then should you call the admin. and ask whats up.

Mine was screwed up at Erie, there was a glitch that caused it to be missed... Other people have had similar issues... I wouldn't call though, I'd send a nice email :)

I've got an 8/26 interview date. I had an 8/12 but had to switch it because of a prior engagement. I hope that 2 week difference won't hurt me too bad.




Interview 8/26 Flying in at midnight the night before :(, flying out 8/26
$254 Flight Michigan to Tampa
$69 Hotel country in and suites
$32 Car Rental

27Q
3.8 Cum GPA


For those that already interviewed, did they ask the same 12 questions that are posted on the internet?


The first question was the tell me something not on your file question.
The rest, in no particular order are:
1. Why osteopathy?
2. Medical school is stressful, how do you relieve yourself of stress.
3. Tell me about your leadership roles, describe.
4. How do you resolve conflict.
5. Tell me about your communication, are you better written or verbal.
6. Strengths (it was worded differently, but I can remember how)
7. After my strengths he said, “and what do you need to work on?”
8. I was asked something about PBL
9. Give an example of when a group approach worked better than an individual.
10. What would be some reasons to choose a D.O over an MD.
11. Have you been treated by a DO.
12. Summarize the article on xxx (it was an easy and interesting read, so don’t sweat it).


BSEE and MBA
3.97 GPA post bach classes 42 credits.

Interview 8/26 Flying in at midnight the night before :(, flying out 8/26
$254 Flight Michigan to Tampa
$69 Hotel country in and suites
$32 Car Rental

27Q
3.8 Cum GPA


For those that already interviewed, did they ask the same 12 questions that are posted on the internet?


The first question was the tell me something not on your file question.
The rest, in no particular order are:
1. Why osteopathy?
2. Medical school is stressful, how do you relieve yourself of stress.
3. Tell me about your leadership roles, describe.
4. How do you resolve conflict.
5. Tell me about your communication, are you better written or verbal.
6. Strengths (it was worded differently, but I can remember how)
7. After my strengths he said, “and what do you need to work on?”
8. I was asked something about PBL
9. Give an example of when a group approach worked better than an individual.
10. What would be some reasons to choose a D.O over an MD.
11. Have you been treated by a DO.
12. Summarize the article on xxx (it was an easy and interesting read, so don’t sweat it).


BSEE and MBA
3.97 GPA post bach classes 42 credits.

Any answer you get will be useless. Of everyone ive talked to there is not really any common theme among the interviews. I had 2 professors pretty much crawl up my butt to examine me while other people talked about racquetball and the beach. Just be prepared to talk about ANYTHING that is on your app and don't read into how your interviewers act during the interview. I had Drs. Luizzi and Heibel and i thought they hated me the whole time. Then i got heibel for the PBL session i sat in on. He could not have been a better facilitator and Luizzi is just freakin hilarious in lectures so far this year. :luck:

Maybe they do that to see how you handle it??

Maybe they do that to see how you handle it??
I think that's the case, but it's only those 2. Everyone else had happy interviews it wasn't fair! Haha

I think that's the case, but it's only those 2. Everyone else had happy interviews it wasn't fair! Haha

Good to know...

How long do you have after they give you admission to pay to hold your spot?

Does your deposit count towards either FL or PA branches? or how does that work? PA seperate from FL?

How long do you have after they give you admission to pay to hold your spot?

Does your deposit count towards either FL or PA branches? or how does that work? PA seperate from FL?
I've read they give you 30 days after you receive an acceptance to decide, and the deposit is $1500. I believe the FL and PA branches are separate. I was actually debating if I should schedule this interview for last, since you only have 30 days to decide, but maybe I'm thinking way too far in advance...

I've read they give you 30 days after you receive an acceptance to decide, and the deposit is $1500. I believe the FL and PA branches are separate. I was actually debating if I should schedule this interview for last, since you only have 30 days to decide, but maybe I'm thinking way too far in advance...



I got an interview for LECOM-E today! Scheduled for first day open 10/7/2011 :)

Whoops wrong thread.

I got an interview for LECOM-E today! Scheduled for first day open 10/7/2011 :)
Congrats!!! I've been waiting on Erie forever (been complete since very early July); it was actually my first choice compared to Bradenton. I'm a bit iffy about PBL for me. Good luck on your interview! :)

Congrats!!! I've been waiting on Erie forever (been complete since very early July); it was actually my first choice compared to Bradenton. I'm a bit iffy about PBL for me. Good luck on your interview! :)


Yea I would like to know more about PBL... maybe it will be more structured then i think it will be..

YEa i know wrong thread...... :P

Yea I would like to know more about PBL... maybe it will be more structured then i think it will be..

YEa i know wrong thread...... :P

At the interview you get to sit in on a 2nd year PBL session. Its scary until you start school. Then you realize why would I sit in lecture all day and then go home and study for a bunch of hours when I could go to school for 2 hrs 3 times a week and have all of that time in school be incredibly useful, while then going home and studying for a bunch of hours. You are studying more than you ever have either way, this way you can do it while others are in lecture and you get to be engaged the whole time you are in class.

Yea I would like to know more about PBL... maybe it will be more structured then i think it will be..

YEa i know wrong thread...... :P

It's not. Well, kind of. I'll explain briefly.

You meet, get Page 1 of a case, which is something like, "Joe Bob, a 65yo male, presents to the ED with chest pain."

You talk about a differential diagnosis (Ddx) for a bit, then do a mock role-playing interview, where someone plays doc and someone plays patient (with a patient script, doc has to wing it).

Then, you get a page detailing the history of the case that you just role-played. This is basically what would be typed up in an EMR or written in the chart. You talk about this, and anything complicated is discussed. Then, you work on your DDx.

Then you get an exam page (maybe after discussing what MIGHT be findings you'd expect on the exam of an MI patient). You go over that and talk about or look up any terms you don't know.

This is probably the end of day 1 for the case. You might get to a lab work page, but maybe not.

At the end of the day the group picks what chapters they want to read before the next session (usually have about 1.5 days to read these).

For this case, a group might pick: Heart anatomy, 3-4 heart physiology chapters, maybe some mitochondria biochem (for reaction to injury stuff), maybe some heart path (more likely in second year, lots of 1st years shy away from path at first), maybe some pharm for related drugs later in the case.

So there you have your "homework." Come back, you've read, the case progresses, you pick more readings. At the end of the case, the group picks which chapters were most relevant that the group wants to be tested on. Most groups wind up picking the same topics (with some variation) so although each group gets a different test, (which includes ~4-7 cases and ~25-40 chapters) the tests are still largely similar to each other, because if you get an MI case, you're going to pick Heart Physiology. It's a "duh-we're-supposed-to-pick-this" chapter.

Is that enough structure for you? Maybe, maybe not. They don't tell you exactly what to read. The amount of structure during group meetings varies depending on your facilitator (teacher). Some facilitators barely talk, and expect the group to lead themselves. Others are very hands-on and talk too much. Most are somewhere in between and help you out if you get stuck or give you some important clinical correlations that you might miss otherwise.

You can find more detailed descriptions elsewhere on SDN, but that's the basic gist. As a 4th year, I will say that PBL is great at preparing you for rotations, as you're very used to seeing and interpreting labs, reading charts, thinking of DDx, etc. I think it smooths the transition to 3rd year a bit. A bit. lol. Hope that helps.

My admissions status just switch to: "Your application has been processed and will be sent to the Admissions Committee for further review. You will be notified as soon as a decision has been made."

If they're going strictly in order of submission, it sounds like secondary apps submitted around late July are beginning to be sent to the Admissions Committee for review. At least that's how I read the status. Fingers crossed that it's nothing negative :xf:

What are you guys doing about transportation?

I'm flying out on the 25th, leaving on the 26th after the interview. I'm probably going to rent a car; where is the best place to do it?

I went on priceline, bid 14$ for a compact, and paid 50$ for Sat-Mon...

Those that interview yesterday, how was it? I'm interviewing next friday, and I wouldn't mind some advice. thanks.

I've read they give you 30 days after you receive an acceptance to decide, and the deposit is $1500. I believe the FL and PA branches are separate. I was actually debating if I should schedule this interview for last, since you only have 30 days to decide, but maybe I'm thinking way too far in advance...

anyone else able to verify that you get 30 days to pay and hold your spot?

I went on priceline, bid 14$ for a compact, and paid 50$ for Sat-Mon...

Ok, cool. I am under 25, does that make any difference?

anyone else able to verify that you get 30 days to pay and hold your spot?

It depends on when you're interviewed and accepted. For LECOM-Bradenton, as per the CIB: "Those accepted July 1, 2011 through January 31, 2012 will have 30 days. Those accepted February 1 through April 30 will have 14 days. Those accepted after May 1 may be asked for an immediate deposit"

http://www.aacom.org/resources/bookstore/cib/Documents/2012cib/2012cib-whole.pdf

Those that interview yesterday, how was it? I'm interviewing next friday, and I wouldn't mind some advice. thanks.

It’s a lot different than previous years. The interview day starts out with an introduction to the school and to PBL. Then you do a 1 on 1 interview for 10 minutes with one of the admissions people followed by a 1 hour sit in on a PBL session (which is boring but you really get a feel for PBL which is awesome!). Next you do a group interview with about 6-7 other people and two admissions people, followed by lunch. The rest of the day is a campus tour and financial aid information. All in all everyone was very nice, very relaxed, no need to stress. I would still know answers to the questions posted on here, but with only 10 minutes to interview there isn't much time for them to interrogate you. Good luck!

anyone else able to verify that you get 30 days to pay and hold your spot?

LECOM-B does not follow the AACOMAS guidelines. They said that you have 30 days from the date posted on the acceptance letter to pay the deposit.

Under 25 will have a surcharge

Does LECOM-B have the same ~2 week time frame for deciding on whether you're accepted or rejected once you interview?

It’s a lot different than previous years. The interview day starts out with an introduction to the school and to PBL. Then you do a 1 on 1 interview for 10 minutes with one of the admissions people followed by a 1 hour sit in on a PBL session (which is boring but you really get a feel for PBL which is awesome!). Next you do a group interview with about 6-7 other people and two admissions people, followed by lunch. The rest of the day is a campus tour and financial aid information. All in all everyone was very nice, very relaxed, no need to stress. I would still know answers to the questions posted on here, but with only 10 minutes to interview there isn't much time for them to interrogate you. Good luck!


What was the group interview like? I'm assuming the 6-7 other people were fellow applicants? and do the 2 admissions people just pick people popcorn style for questions or what?

What was the group interview like? I'm assuming the 6-7 other people were fellow applicants? and do the 2 admissions people just pick people popcorn style for questions or what?

Yes, the other 6-7 people were other applicants. The questions are based on PBL, LECOM, and osteopathic medicine. They will ask the question, but not to any one specific person. They want to see how you interact as a group, so its open to anyone who wants to answer the question and discuss it among the others. I didn't find the group interview very constructive as some people really like to talk, and it kind of keeps you from speaking your mind. But for a PBL setting, I guess its necessary to see how people react to being in a group setting.

Yes, the other 6-7 people were other applicants. The questions are based on PBL, LECOM, and osteopathic medicine. They will ask the question, but not to any one specific person. They want to see how you interact as a group, so its open to anyone who wants to answer the question and discuss it among the others. I didn't find the group interview very constructive as some people really like to talk, and it kind of keeps you from speaking your mind. But for a PBL setting, I guess its necessary to see how people react to being in a group setting.

Interesting, thanks much

Interview Invite!
Submitted 7/20, Interview 9/23.

I just called LECOM... accepted!! :soexcited::banana::biglove:

I hope everyone has the best of luck with their applications... stay positive!!

You found out in 5 days? Wasn't your interview just on the 12th??

You found out in 5 days? Wasn't your interview just on the 12th??


Yea I interviewed on the 12th with 17 other people. During the interview they told us that if our files were complete the decision would be made within a week. My status changed to "A deicision has been made on your file. You will receive a letter within 30 days". So I called and they informed me over the phone.

I was super impressed with the campus, the curriculum, and the students. This is most likely where I'll be attending.

Again, I wish all of you the best of luck and multiple acceptances.

I also got accepted!! :D :D :D

I also got accepted!! :D :D :D

That is awesome. Congrats guys

Just called, and........ ACCEPTED!!!!! :love::):laugh:. Congrats to everyone else, and good luck to those who have yet to interview!

Just got a call from the admissions office saying I got an interview invite!! I'm super excited!

Who else is interviewing this Friday?

Interview 8/26 Flying in at midnight the night before :(, flying out 8/26
$254 Flight Michigan to Tampa
$69 Hotel country in and suites
$32 Car Rental

27Q
3.8 Cum GPA


For those that already interviewed, did they ask the same 12 questions that are posted on the internet?


The first question was the tell me something not on your file question.
The rest, in no particular order are:
1. Why osteopathy?
2. Medical school is stressful, how do you relieve yourself of stress.
3. Tell me about your leadership roles, describe.
4. How do you resolve conflict.
5. Tell me about your communication, are you better written or verbal.
6. Strengths (it was worded differently, but I can remember how)
7. After my strengths he said, “and what do you need to work on?”
8. I was asked something about PBL
9. Give an example of when a group approach worked better than an individual.
10. What would be some reasons to choose a D.O over an MD.
11. Have you been treated by a DO.
12. Summarize the article on xxx (it was an easy and interesting read, so don’t sweat it).


BSEE and MBA
3.97 GPA post bach classes 42 credits.
I've visited the LECOM-B website, and I'm not sure what you mean by the twelve questions posted on the internet. Mind sharing? I have an interview coming up too! Thanks!

Who else is interviewing this Friday?

+1 :)guess I will be meeting you soon!

As I read about PBL, I am getting excited about this school.

Interviewing next Friday!

I just checked my portal. It now says that the admissions committee wants all LORs before making a decision on my file.

That happened to me also....but I got an interview. They had problems with my application since I just got married and had a change of name.

+1 :)guess I will be meeting you soon!


Next Friday 26th :)

I've visited the LECOM-B website, and I'm not sure what you mean by the twelve questions posted on the internet. Mind sharing? I have an interview coming up too! Thanks!
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my original post had the 12 items in it that I was referring to that you quoted, I found that on the forums some where... I was told that it wasnt structured like that though... so perhaps just be prepared to answer those questions if asked..

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my original post had the 12 items in it that I was referring to that you quoted, I found that on the forums some where... I was told that it wasnt structured like that though... so perhaps just be prepared to answer those questions if asked..
Oh, I see. Thanks for filling me in! I'll be interviewing August 29th. Any idea how it is structured?

That happened to me also....but I got an interview. They had problems with my application since I just got married and had a change of name.

I just sent in my letters. I wonder what the problem is with my app. Did you ask them the reasoning behind the status change?

If any of you fine SDNers are interviewing tomorrow and want to grab some food or head to the beach, send me a PM. Hanging out in the Wingate by LECOM at the moment.

Awww, too bad you're not interviewing on the 29th! I'll be at the beach on Sunday (28th)!

That happened to me also....but I got an interview. They had problems with my application since I just got married and had a change of name.

I just sent in my letters. I wonder what the problem is with my app. Did you ask them the reasoning behind the status change?

I didn't get a chance to. They called while I was at work and left a message saying that they had some trouble with my app but they were giving me an interview. Are you retaking your MCAT? I also said I was retaking mine but decided not too so they were waiting on those scores.

Good luck to everyone interviewing today!

Good luck to everyone interviewing today!


fill us in on the format etc when you guys/gals get back :)

Hey guys,

Just interviewed here today. Love this place!

The day starts out with an introduction, then you have a 15 minute one on one interview (It's very relaxed, so just be yourself). I was asked about the master's program i'm currently in and some questions about PBL.

After the interview you get to observe a PBL in session. This lasts about an hour. Then you shuffle into a group interview (45 minutes). We were asked several ethical questions, but no one was put on the spot (Open forum. Whoever wants to answer can do so at anytime). Everyone in the group was given a great opportunity to express themselves, and it was very conversational and relaxed.

The rest of the day consisted of small presentations and lunch with the second years.

Overall, I am very impressed by this school. The facilities are immaculate, and the professors seem to genuinely care about the students (and the prospective students). PBL definitely creates a unique learning environment. Probably not for everyone, but for the self motivated it is the only way to go in my opinion. Definitely excited about this place.

Good luck to all those still interviewing!

Adam

I'll echo what Adamb83 said, apparently he was in my interview group. The LECOM admissions staff did a great job of making everyone feel relaxed. My interviewer was very warm and friendly and I did not feel nervous at all during the one-on-one interview. I had some reservations about PBL, LECOM-B as a whole, and the area, but I've put them aside after the interview. Here's to hoping for an acceptance next week!

I'll echo what Adamb83 said, apparently he was in my interview group. The LECOM admissions staff did a great job of making everyone feel relaxed. My interviewer was very warm and friendly and I did not feel nervous at all during the one-on-one interview. I had some reservations about PBL, LECOM-B as a whole, and the area, but I've put them aside after the interview. Here's to hoping for an acceptance next week!

Thanks guys/gals!
I interview this Friday.. flying in late Thursday :( then flying out right after interview...

What materials did you need to bring? I just printed off the informational PDF's that they emailed us and then I am taking print outs of the MSAR PDF for DO schools. Some light reading for the plane ride.

Hey guys,

Just interviewed here today. Love this place!

The day starts out with an introduction, then you have a 15 minute one on one interview (It's very relaxed, so just be yourself). I was asked about the master's program i'm currently in and some questions about PBL.

After the interview you get to observe a PBL in session. This lasts about an hour. Then you shuffle into a group interview (45 minutes). We were asked several ethical questions, but no one was put on the spot (Open forum. Whoever wants to answer can do so at anytime). Everyone in the group was given a great opportunity to express themselves, and it was very conversational and relaxed.

The rest of the day consisted of small presentations and lunch with the second years.

Overall, I am very impressed by this school. The facilities are immaculate, and the professors seem to genuinely care about the students (and the prospective students). PBL definitely creates a unique learning environment. Probably not for everyone, but for the self motivated it is the only way to go in my opinion. Definitely excited about this place.

Good luck to all those still interviewing!

Adam

Yeah, our group interview was interesting... they were really laying the MedEthics questions on us haha

Thanks guys/gals!
I interview this Friday.. flying in late Thursday :( then flying out right after interview...

What materials did you need to bring? I just printed off the informational PDF's that they emailed us and then I am taking print outs of the MSAR PDF for DO schools. Some light reading for the plane ride.

Just go over your AACOMAS application, review your personal statement. Look over LECOM-B's page in the AACOM CIB. Look at the sample questions in the SDN Interview Feedback Section. You'll be fine. My interview questions were more geared towards me and my application vs. generic questions that they ask everyone.

Oh and deep breath, relax. It really was a low-stress interview, I walked away with a very good feeling. :D

Has anyone seen this before on LECOM-B application status:"Your file will be re-reviewed by the Admissions Committee in 60 days." I did call on Friday asking the status of my application because it was taking awhile. Do you think they would put me in the penalty box?

I'm confused because I have an interview scheduled with LECOM Erie.

I'm interviewing next Monday Aug 29th. I looked up the weather and it says there's thunderstorms all this week...
For those of you who just interviewed: how was the weather??

Umm... Holy shnikes!!! Dude, it doesn't just say Thunderstorms, it say "tropical storm possible".... Oh goodness.... that is NOT good!

Umm... Holy shnikes!!! Dude, it doesn't just say Thunderstorms, it say "tropical storm possible".... Oh goodness.... that is NOT good!

Yeah, I'm driving down from VA for a rotation at USF in Tampa, and have been watching the storm...

If you guys do decide to come to LECOM-B, remember that this is Florida, and we do get hurricanes and CRAZY summer storms. That being said, the Tampa area actually has a very low chance of being hit directly by hurricanes...

Get friendly with this site:

www.flhurricane.com

The current storm track is here: http://flhurricane.com/cyclone/stormspotlight.php?year=2011&storm=9

2 of the many predicted storm tracks are showing it coming to the west coast, but most show it going up the east coast, hitting probably Palm Beach and/or Jacksonville, before making landfall around the GA state line. Of course the hurricane is wide, so Tampa will probably be getting a decent thunderstorm.

Also, it's a pretty weak "hurricane" right now, so it shouldn't be too bad. Bring an umbrella with a vent, and prepare for some icky weather, but you shouldn't have to be scared of "disaster-area" level stuff.

I'm leaving VA on Saturday, so I'm probably going to be driving into the storm. Yay me.

I'm not worried about the interview on Monday, I'm worried about GETTING to the interview on Monday! I have to fly through Atlanta on Saturday @1230pm! So I am worried about delays due to weather, and them cancelling my flight or something.... By Monday this weather will be gone... and there will be something new to deal with :) for the record, I will drive through the hurricane before I'll let Delta make me miss my interview... Digital-you'll get to say you drove through a hurricane to get there :)

I am curious, by offering invites, LECOM feels we are academically qualified to go to school right? My interview will hopefully be the deciding factor and not my grades/MCAT? Thoughts?

Hey guys, does anyone know what it means when an application is on hold? For over 6 weeks, on the portal, it said that my app is under review. But when I called today, Dolly (one of the receptionists) told me that my app is on hold and that she would send it in to a counselor for review. I submitted the app in mid june, so I thought that they have or currently are already reviewing it?

Hey guys, does anyone know what it means when an application is on hold? For over 6 weeks, on the portal, it said that my app is under review. But when I called today, Dolly (one of the receptionists) told me that my app is on hold and that she would send it in to a counselor for review. I submitted the app in mid june, so I thought that they have or currently are already reviewing it?

I've been complete since 7/27 and mine still says under review too...not sure if I should call them too and see whats up with it

I am curious, by offering invites, LECOM feels we are academically qualified to go to school right? My interview will hopefully be the deciding factor and not my grades/MCAT? Thoughts?

They are at least interested in you. :)
The interview is there to make sure that you will be a good fit for PBL and you can work together (as well as challenge one-another without getting butt-hurt) as a team. PBL isn't for everyone, just make sure that it is for you if you plan on attending LECOM-B.

Good luck on Monday!

Any one else interviewing on September 9th??

They are at least interested in you. :)
The interview is there to make sure that you will be a good fit for PBL and you can work together (as well as challenge one-another without getting butt-hurt) as a team. PBL isn't for everyone, just make sure that it is for you if you plan on attending LECOM-B.

Good luck on Monday!

Thanks, I think I will do well in the PBL, I dislike lectures and I have been a post-bacc student doing many in-person and online courses, and have not had a problem making time to study. I am more concerned that the feedback I'm getting from schools who are rejecting me is that my GPA/MCAT are too low (3.18c/s, 26Q, 3.83 PB cGPA, 3.92 PB sGPA) My PB work is ~80 credits, and it's not seeming to count for anything... so, I'm just concerned that I will get there and this will end up screwing me... if not, if I really have a chance on Monday, I will take it, as LECOM-B just moved into top-spot for where I would like to attend...

Where are you guys renting a car from?

I'm looking for the least expensive way to do it, as I am 23. Are there car rental companies at the Sarasota airport?

I'm not worried about the interview on Monday, I'm worried about GETTING to the interview on Monday! Digital-you'll get to say you drove through a hurricane to get there :)

You'll be fine...worst case you'll get to Atlanta and have to drive, which is doable...

You may not know it, but I'm a 4th year LECOM-B student, btw. I'm driving down for a rotation at USF, not an interview...not sure if you knew that or not.

Having lived there for 2.5 years, I've driven through a few "hurricanes."

Hurricanes are almost never a big deal. Unless its a 5 when its barreling down on land everything is ok. Even if it is a 5 there is only a bout a 20 mile wide area that gets any real hurricane type weather. I had charlie(a cat. 4) hit about a half hour drive south of me and it was nothing more than a bad thunderstorm.

You'll be fine...worst case you'll get to Atlanta and have to drive, which is doable...

You may not know it, but I'm a 4th year LECOM-B student, btw. I'm driving down for a rotation at USF, not an interview...not sure if you knew that or not.

Having lived there for 2.5 years, I've driven through a few "hurricanes."

You still get to say it! I will drive if I have to, but I'd prefer not to have to do an 8.5hr drive on Saturday, through a hurricane, although I'm thinking about packing my bottle of rain-x just in case.

Hurricanes are almost never a big deal. Unless its a 5 when its barreling down on land everything is ok. Even if it is a 5 there is only a bout a 20 mile wide area that gets any real hurricane type weather. I had charlie(a cat. 4) hit about a half hour drive south of me and it was nothing more than a bad thunderstorm.

Not worried about it so much as the storm, just it grounding planes in ATL... we have tornadoes and thunderstorms in MN, I'm perfectly able to deal with bad weather... but they don't like to land them or have them take off in storms...

Is anyone calling tomorrow to find out if we are accepted or not from last weeks interview? They did not mention anything about it, but I know others have called on Wednesday in the past.

Is anyone calling tomorrow to find out if we are accepted or not from last weeks interview? They did not mention anything about it, but I know others have called on Wednesday in the past.

I was planning on calling tomorrow or thursday. :xf:

I interviewed Friday. It says a decision has been made. I'm thinking about calling, but not sure if that is appropriate. Any thoughts??? :)

I interviewed Friday. It says a decision has been made. I'm thinking about calling, but not sure if that is appropriate. Any thoughts??? :)

I am debating the same thing haha.

Well go ahead and call. You are welcome to check mine while you're on the phone. j\k

Well go ahead and call. You are welcome to check mine while you're on the phone. j\k

I called. :D.

Good luck to the rest.

I called too. I'm in!

I called too. I'm in!

Did they seem like they had an issue with you calling? I hope they realize that everyone is just very excited/anxious! I wonder if there have been any applicants turned down with an interview this early in the season?

Did they seem like they had an issue with you calling? I hope they realize that everyone is just very excited/anxious! I wonder if there have been any applicants turned down with an interview this early in the season?

No, I think she seemed ok with it.

Did they seem like they had an issue with you calling? I hope they realize that everyone is just very excited/anxious! I wonder if there have been any applicants turned down with an interview this early in the season?

Last year it seemed like everyone from the 1st and 2nd interview was rejected/waitlisted made my wait for the 3rd interview pretty horrible.

Got in! :) They were very friendly on the phone, I wouldn't worry about calling

I'm in! Congrats to everyone.

@everyoneaccepted Do they give acceptances to people without a DO letter?

I'm with you guys.. interviewing on the 29th! I don't have a D.O. letter though, only MD letters. I was wondering if there was a possible way to get a D.O. letter there on campus?

All the DOs near my area are busy, don't respond, or aren't interested in mentoring someone. :(

I'm nervous.

Also, I'm flying in on Saturday when are the rest of you guys coming through?

Reason I ask is because I remember reading something along the lines of "didnt have DO letter, told the dean, dean said hey talk to this guy, talked to him for like 10 min, got all requirements checked off and was accepted (this was all on interview day)" But then again, it could have been in my dream and I could be making this all up in my head.

so flying in this thursday night for the interview friday with a hurricane on the door step... and it could possibly get to CAT 4.... this should be brownie pts for dedication right?

i would totally let you in

To those interviewing on Monday Aug 29:
I'm flying in from CA on Sunday morning. If any of you are interested in meeting up on Sunday, PM me!

@everyoneaccepted Do they give acceptances to people without a DO letter?


Not sure. I have a D.O. letter. Not sure about the others who have been accepted.

To those interviewing on Monday Aug 29:
I'm flying in from CA on Sunday morning. If any of you are interested in meeting up on Sunday, PM me!

If any of you interviewees want to have some food/beer and a friendly chat on Sunday, let me know. I'll be around all day with nothing to do. I'm a 4th year, and have been around the block, so to speak, and am always willing to answer any questions.

Kwon, I'll be there, planning on hitting the beach with another SDNr...

If any of you interviewees want to have some food/beer and a friendly chat on Sunday, let me know. I'll be around all day with nothing to do. I'm a 4th year, and have been around the block, so to speak, and am always willing to answer any questions.

I see you're enjoying 4th year! ;)

If any of you interviewees want to have some food/beer and a friendly chat on Sunday, let me know. I'll be around all day with nothing to do. I'm a 4th year, and have been around the block, so to speak, and am always willing to answer any questions.

I'm game for it... I'm staying at the Country inn, from Sat on... assuming that I can get there ;)

Although it looks like it will be tracking further east than originally expected!

If any of you interviewees want to have some food/beer and a friendly chat on Sunday, let me know. I'll be around all day with nothing to do. I'm a 4th year, and have been around the block, so to speak, and am always willing to answer any questions.

I'd also be interested in meeting up on Sunday, that'd be great!

Hey guys, once again, if you are free to meet up on Sunday August 28th, private message me your email address. This way, we can just email each other all at once. It's much easier (:

Thanks!

Hey guys, once again, if you are free to meet up on Sunday August 28th, private message me your email address. This way, we can just email each other all at once. It's much easier (:

Thanks!

Agreed, everyone PM Future Dr Kwon your email if you want to meet up on Sunday. I'll do the same and will try to think of a good place...

does anyone know what address we should send in the letters? I tried to look for it and found regular one, but I don't want to send them to wrong address.:(

Did anyone get a phone call for their interview or just an email?

email. I dont know about others, but I was simply given a date, not a choice of dates.

Zoomzoom: Same for me...

To those who called admissions about your acceptance, did your 'status' change or did you just call?

Zoomzoom: Same for me...

To those who called admissions about your acceptance, did your 'status' change or did you just call?

My status changed to "the committee has made a decision" or something to that effect. I had to call to find out what it was.

My status changed to "the committee has made a decision" or something to that effect. I had to call to find out what it was.

Same

same. I called yesterday

same. I called yesterday

Likewise. They said the letters were going out that day, so expect something in the mail shortly as well

So I just have to obsessively check the portal, and then call? :) Also, for those people who lurk, there is a group of us meeting on 8/28 in Bradenton for dinner... PM me for details...

does anyone know what address we should send in the letters? I tried to look for it and found regular one, but I don't want to send them to wrong address.:(

I asked them let me get you the address...

The address you may have your letter of recommendation sent to is listed below:
LECOM
5000 Lakewood Ranch Blvd.
Bradenton, FL 34212

Good luck!

So I just have to obsessively check the portal, and then call? :) Also, for those people who lurk, there is a group of us meeting on 8/28 in Bradenton for dinner... PM me for details...

Yes! I just called today and was ACCEPTED!!! Be yourself and you'll do great!!

how soon are you guys going to send in your deposits?

Is it just the deposit that has to be taken care of in 30 days? or everything (physical, vaccinations, paperwork)?

As far as I know, the 30 day requirement is just for the $1,500.00 deposit. I'll let you know more when I get my stuff in the mail, should be any day now.

I asked them let me get you the address...

The address you may have your letter of recommendation sent to is listed below:
LECOM
5000 Lakewood Ranch Blvd.
Bradenton, FL 34212

Good luck!


Thanks!

My status is now:

"Your application has been processed and will be sent to the Admissions Committee for further review. You will be notified as soon as a decision has been made. "

I never got this message before when applying to Erie. Sounds scary to me D:

My status is now:

"Your application has been processed and will be sent to the Admissions Committee for further review. You will be notified as soon as a decision has been made. "

I never got this message before when applying to Erie. Sounds scary to me D:


I got this too! I was wondering what it meant. I have an interview with LECOM so I was wondering if that made a difference? Any input would be appreciated!

how soon are you guys going to send in your deposits?

Is it just the deposit that has to be taken care of in 30 days? or everything (physical, vaccinations, paperwork)?

You have 30 days for the deposit. You will get a matriculation packet later (I think it was in late winter or early spring) detailing all of the requirements for admission- drug screen, background check, immunizations, etc. Don't worry about all of that now, enjoy what little bit of free time you have left.
:luck:

I got this too! I was wondering what it meant. I have an interview with LECOM so I was wondering if that made a difference? Any input would be appreciated!

I got that message right before my application was reviewed by the committee. I got an interview the next week.

What do you guys think about the basically all-PBL curriculum? In the end, how do you think it compares to a more traditional lecture-based curriculum? I guess what I am really wondering is if it tends to equal out with time or if PBL better prepares you via clinical reasoning and clinical applications.

What do you guys think about the basically all-PBL curriculum? In the end, how do you think it compares to a more traditional lecture-based curriculum? I guess what I am really wondering is if it tends to equal out with time or if PBL better prepares you via clinical reasoning and clinical applications.

I think it really depends on your style of learning. It has always been my opinion that you retain knowledge better if you apply it, but this is not true for everyone.

The students we observed were very knowledgeable. Did not seem like year 2's at all, so I think that speaks volumes.

I definitely think your critical thinking skills would improve from doing case studies. On that I think there is no debate.

What do you guys think about the basically all-PBL curriculum? In the end, how do you think it compares to a more traditional lecture-based curriculum? I guess what I am really wondering is if it tends to equal out with time or if PBL better prepares you via clinical reasoning and clinical applications.

Lots of advantages: You can schedule your study time as you see fit. Applying the material to a case can help retention and clinical application. You start seeing labs and rads reports, etc from day 1, so by 2nd year you're pretty good at things that 3rd years struggle with from other schools. You get good at working in a team, presenting cases to "attendings", and differential diagnosis...all of which you do as part of your PBL case. It's very good prep for 3rd year and beyond.

Disadvantages: No lecture. No spoon feeding. You have to do all the work yourself. You have to figure out what's important, and what isn't. LOTS more reading. I have friends at lecture based schools who simply memorize some power points and take a test. It's not like that here...you'd fail. Of course, if you study, you'll know stuff better than the powerpoint crowd, IMO. It's not for everyone though...some people don't retain the knowledge as well without lecture, and some retain better without lecture. So, it's up to you to make sure you can learn without lecture...most people adjust fine though, even if it's not ideal for you, you can still do very well here. I have classmates you can read things once, fast, and retain everything and ace the tests (and boards) with very little study time, comparatively. Others study 12 hours a day and do average. The only people that do poorly are the ones who don't study and party all the time...there's always a couple.

The only other possible disadvantage (but could also be seen as an advantage) is that you can get very good grades in PBL even though you have some holes in your knowledge base. For example, each PBL test may only have a few questions on Embryology or Histology. You could, theoretically, do pretty well on your PBL test without knowing much about those two subjects. No one really does this, but people do tend to prioritize what they enjoy and what they're interested in. I, for one, hated embryo, but still made myself study it some (i.e. enough to do ok on USMLE World and Board questions). It was (and remains) one of my weaker subjects. In a non-PBL school, with a separate class for each basic science, it'd be difficult to get by without knowing a fair amount of embryo (for example). I don't think this is a huge problem, because the PBL tests do keep up on our toes, and the students are mostly responsible for themselves and we make ourselves study, even if we don't "need" to. But, still...it's a possible downside.

Lots of advantages: You can schedule your study time as you see fit. Applying the material to a case can help retention and clinical application. You start seeing labs and rads reports, etc from day 1, so by 2nd year you're pretty good at things that 3rd years struggle with from other schools. You get good at working in a team, presenting cases to "attendings", and differential diagnosis...all of which you do as part of your PBL case. It's very good prep for 3rd year and beyond.

Disadvantages: No lecture. No spoon feeding. You have to do all the work yourself. You have to figure out what's important, and what isn't. LOTS more reading. I have friends at lecture based schools who simply memorize some power points and take a test. It's not like that here...you'd fail. Of course, if you study, you'll know stuff better than the powerpoint crowd, IMO. It's not for everyone though...some people don't retain the knowledge as well without lecture, and some retain better without lecture. So, it's up to you to make sure you can learn without lecture...most people adjust fine though, even if it's not ideal for you, you can still do very well here. I have classmates you can read things once, fast, and retain everything and ace the tests (and boards) with very little study time, comparatively. Others study 12 hours a day and do average. The only people that do poorly are the ones who don't study and party all the time...there's always a couple.

The only other possible disadvantage (but could also be seen as an advantage) is that you can get very good grades in PBL even though you have some holes in your knowledge base. For example, each PBL test may only have a few questions on Embryology or Histology. You could, theoretically, do pretty well on your PBL test without knowing much about those two subjects. No one really does this, but people do tend to prioritize what they enjoy and what they're interested in. I, for one, hated embryo, but still made myself study it some (i.e. enough to do ok on USMLE World and Board questions). It was (and remains) one of my weaker subjects. In a non-PBL school, with a separate class for each basic science, it'd be difficult to get by without knowing a fair amount of embryo (for example). I don't think this is a huge problem, because the PBL tests do keep up on our toes, and the students are mostly responsible for themselves and we make ourselves study, even if we don't "need" to. But, still...it's a possible downside.

This all makes a lot of sense. I really do think it can help you retain more material. My only concern is the sheer amount of reading and pacing of it. In undergrad I would read basically 1 textbook chapter per day (40-50 pages) and that was it. It would take 3-4 hours to do and then I would review notes from class. How much reading do you have to do and how quickly do you have to do it?

This all makes a lot of sense. I really do think it can help you retain more material. My only concern is the sheer amount of reading and pacing of it. In undergrad I would read basically 1 textbook chapter per day (40-50 pages) and that was it. It would take 3-4 hours to do and then I would review notes from class. How much reading do you have to do and how quickly do you have to do it?

It starts slower, and picks up. At first, you do anatomy, which is lecture with some reading. Towards the middle-end of anatomy, you start PBL, but since you're also taking anatomy, you read stuff that ties into the anatomy that you're studying and they reinforce each other...

Once anatomy is over, towards the end of 1st semester and into 2nd semester, you might have to look at 3-6 chapters, but you have a day and a half, at least to do this.

Some of the chapters are quite short also. Others are really long and difficult, but it's very doable. It will definitely be faster paced than what you did in undergrad, but that's par for the course in med school. By the 2nd semester you're probably somewhere around 5-10x the pace of the average pre-med undergrad pace. It is like drinking from a firehose, and it's all a blur.

You have 3 PBL tests each semester (at least we did), and first year, you'll probably average around 25-35 chapters per test...ish. Very doable, but unless you have a photographic memory, you'll want to read most of these chapters 2-3 times. I kept a spreadsheet of what chapters I was studying for the test and how many times I had read them, to keep it straight. They're not assigned, your PBL group chooses them based on the case you're working on. So, an MI case might get 3-4 heart physiology chapters, heart anatomy, heart embryo, heart histology, heart pathology, biochem of mitochondria, and HTN drugs...or any combination of the above, maybe not all of them...that's more of a 2nd year amount. By 2nd year, you'll have read most of these chapters for tests before, so if you get a heart case 2nd year, you'll do all the ones you did before, which you probably will barely have to read, plus the ones you haven't done.

I should add that many people don't read much at all, and instead opt for things like the Kaplan lecture videos (with or without supplemental readings from real books or review books). The success you have with this depends on your own learning styles and abilities...some people do ok with it, others bomb because the review courses don't cover quite enough material, but I've found the review stuff to be a good starting point to build on.

It's complicated, I know...but it's a good system, and it works. You're just responsible for your own education. Some people don't handle that responsibility well, but most do very well.

For those (ladies) with interviews coming up...are you planning on wearing a blouse or long-sleeved button up? I think my button-up might look more professional, but I don't want to be sweating like a pig in FL at the same time.

Good luck everyone! Two more days....kinda freaking out!!! :)

For those (ladies) with interviews coming up...are you planning on wearing a blouse or long-sleeved button up? I think my button-up might look more professional, but I don't want to be sweating like a pig in FL at the same time.

Good luck everyone! Two more days....kinda freaking out!!! :)
I'm wearing a skirt suit, so I'll just have a jacket on and round neck underneath. It will definitely be toasty! But I figure when we interview it will be nice and air conditioned. I'm sure as long as you dress professionally and with conservatism it will be fine. :)