Just out of curiosity - can FMGs apply for military residencies? If so, is it common?

Yo-hoo? Anyone?

:-)

NO,
FMG's cannot apply for military residencies. Miltary residencies are for those medical students in the United states who have gone thru the HPSP, USUHS programs. Sorry. The only instanc ei could see where it might happen is if you were in a military medical program in some other country and that country sponsored you to go thru the US military residency. However it is a political can worms to make that happen

what if they joined the military in the Health Profession Loan Repayment Program or something? or do you need to graduate from a US school for that?

i was looking at this site:

http://www.nomi.med.navy.mil/NAMI/RAM/index.htm

about the Aerospace Med Residency with the Navy. At the very bottom of the page they have the message:

"INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS

Students from foreign armed services should contact the Residency Coordinator or Director for information on policy and application procedures."

so it IS possible...but who knows how likely for an FMG.

Originally posted by brats800

"INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS

Students from foreign armed services should contact the Residency Coordinator or Director for information on policy and application procedures."

so it IS possible...but who knows how likely for an FMG.

It is possible for foreign armed services...in my class Canadian army students came down, funded by their government's military, to train in our program. This doesn't mean that any foreign medical grad can just come on over & jump into the program.

Ok, thanks for helping me out!

Hello to all. My name is LT Quiko and I'm a medical recruiter for the Navy. I pretty much am a subject matter expert in this particular realm so I'll give you the final answer.

If you are only an FMG and NOT in another armed force, the answer is NO. One of the responses earlier said that military residencies were only open to USUHS and HPSP Grads. This is true but not the entire truth. To be more specific and more encompassing at the same time, military residencies are only open to ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY PHYSICIANS, regardless of their commission source. If you are on active duty, you can apply.

If you are and FMG, but a member of foreign military that has such agreemants with the US, than it is possible (however unlikely) that you may get a spot in a US Mil Residency. This is totally dependant on availability. The US MIL will not bump a US MIL Doctor to fill that spot with foreign service doctor. However if by chance that some year there is a vacancy, then they will entertain applicants from foreign services. So those foreign service doctors are on a space available basis only.

If you are an FMG and do not meet any of the above criteria, you do not qualify to apply for any military residency.

I hope this clears things up and removes any doubt or false hopes either way.

V/r

LT QUIKO

Hello to all. My name is LT Quiko and I'm a medical recruiter for the Navy. I pretty much am a subject matter expert in this particular realm so I'll give you the final answer.

If you are only an FMG and NOT in another armed force, the answer is NO. One of the responses earlier said that military residencies were only open to USUHS and HPSP Grads. This is true but not the entire truth. To be more specific and more encompassing at the same time, military residencies are only open to ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY PHYSICIANS, regardless of their commission source. If you are on active duty, you can apply.

If you are and FMG, but a member of foreign military that has such agreemants with the US, than it is possible (however unlikely) that you may get a spot in a US Mil Residency. This is totally dependant on availability. The US MIL will not bump a US MIL Doctor to fill that spot with foreign service doctor. However if by chance that some year there is a vacancy, then they will entertain applicants from foreign services. So those foreign service doctors are on a space available basis only.

If you are an FMG and do not meet any of the above criteria, you do not qualify to apply for any military residency.

I hope this clears things up and removes any doubt or false hopes either way.

V/r

LT QUIKO

Great post. Thank you very much. I have another question, since you would know better than anyone. I have 8 yrs prior service enlisted and will be a FMG. Is there any way I can get commissioned after graduation? If so, is there a loan repayment option? I only left the military in order to get my degree/premed reqs with the hopes of going back in. So far I have not been accepted to a US MD/DO program. Any info you can share would help. :)

If you are only an FMG and NOT in another armed force, the answer is NO.


How is it that foreigners are allowed to enlist in the military and obtain citizenship? It would seem logical that a foreign physician who had appropriate licensing could join.

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How is it that foreigners are allowed to enlist in the military and obtain citizenship? It would seem logical that a foreign physician who had appropriate licensing could join.
By federal law, you must be a US citizen to receive a commission in any of the Uniformed Services. I'm not sure if they make exceptions for physicians and other health professionals like they do for the maximum age of commissioning, but I don't believe they do.

Foreigners who are legal permanent residents of the US are allowed to enlist in the military, but only for a limited time, and only in certain career fields. In order to stay in the military beyond the initial enlistment or so, they need to obtain US citizenship. At this time, enlisted permanent residents qualify for an expedited citizenship process. However, there shouldn't be any non-citizen commissioned officers in any branch of the military, so this wouldn't apply to them.

How is it that foreigners are allowed to enlist in the military and obtain citizenship? It would seem logical that a foreign physician who had appropriate licensing could join.


If you are any kind of commisioned officer, I believe you have to fill out the SF86 and at least be eligible for a Secret or above clearance. Don't all the HPSP/USUHS people do this? This would be a problem if you were a foreign national. I don't think the enlisted would have this same issue.

If you are any kind of commisioned officer, I believe you have to fill out the SF86 and at least be eligible for a Secret or above clearance. Don't all the HPSP/USUHS people do this? This would be a problem if you were a foreign national. I don't think the enlisted would have this same issue.

Yep all HPSP people fill out good ol' form SF86

Is it possible for a FMG to get a PGY2 position if he has passed step3, completed an intern year in a civilian program and wishes to (re)enlist for active duty?

Is it possible for a FMG to get a PGY2 position if he has passed step3, completed an intern year in a civilian program and wishes to (re)enlist for active duty?

By the instruction (OPNAV 1120.4), no. You need to have completed an acreditted residency and have an unrestricted license.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1729714,00.html

yeah, we need more FMGs.

Doctors make great spies.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1729714,00.html

yeah, we need more FMGs.

Doctors make great spies.
Am I missing something? The article mentions that 65% of spies in the U.S. are American born, which I found to be quite suprising. Would have thought more would be from foreign countries.

American born blend in so much better and there is sadly no shortage of idiots that love other countries more than their own while enjoying the privilege of living in this one

Am I missing something? The article mentions that 65% of spies in the U.S. are American born, which I found to be quite suprising. Would have thought more would be from foreign countries.


would you sleep with a woman that you knew stood a 35% chance of giving you HIV ?

would you sleep with a woman that you knew stood a 35% chance of giving you HIV ?
Better odds than the one whose 65% likely to give you HIV, no? By these stats we should be more worried about native born Americans as spies than foreign born. I just found it suprising. I would have thought the percentages would be reversed.

would you sleep with a woman that you knew stood a 35% chance of giving you HIV ?

How hot is she?

How hot is she?

didn't you get the VA suicide hotline pamplet in the mail this week ? ;)