Space reserved for prompt.

Please PM the essays or lack thereof to me when the secondary is available and I will update this.

Good luck to everyone applying! :luck:

Potentially applying here (saw that they have a certificate program in Bioethics & Health Policy <3), though I was curious whether anyone knew about what percentage of the student body comes from Illinois.

50%

Potentially applying here (saw that they have a certificate program in Bioethics & Health Policy <3), though I was curious whether anyone knew about what percentage of the student body comes from Illinois.

Not sure exactly where I saw it, thinking MSAR, but I want to say that they admit 49% of their students from Illinois.

Any Loyola students that can talk about their experience in this university? It would be greatly appreciated!

Don't mind me, just another applicant....

Anyone know if Stritch gives out any merit based scholarships?

Just applied. Anyone know about the secondary?

Just applied. Anyone know about the secondary?

Not wanting to look up ANY secondary info, I see. :). Jk.

They have one; hopefully we'll get it in a couple weeks!!

Not wanting to look up ANY secondary info, I see. :). Jk.

They have one; hopefully we'll get it in a couple weeks!!
:laugh: :D Fingers crossed! Good luck! :)

applied here this year very late and was rejected, reapplying. they offer post-rejection feedback, I was told by an admissions officer that the current class for this fall is at least 20 ppl OVER filled right now (this is being talked a lot in the 2011-2012 thread too). not sure what this means for the upcoming cycle, but it makes me afraid that they might be really conservative to avoid a situation like this next year.

applied here this year very late and was rejected, reapplying. they offer post-rejection feedback, I was told by an admissions officer that the current class for this fall is at least 20 ppl OVER filled right now (this is being talked a lot in the 2011-2012 thread too). not sure what this means for the upcoming cycle, but it makes me afraid that they might be really conservative to avoid a situation like this next year.

Incoming M1 here. Thought I would comment a little on the over acceptance situation. The office of admissions has not released any information to the class about this yet, but if they do I'm sure you all will find out about the same time as us haha. I do know that a few schools are having this over acceptance problem. I know Iowa increased it's OOS acceptances this year to make sure they met their numbers, and as of May 15 they were almost 15 people over accepted. BU also was over accepted and doesn't have any waitlist movement (I interviewed at both schools, so I have stayed up to date with their admissions process). I think I saw on a thread that Penn was over accepted and even offered 2 year tuition waivers to people willing to defer. Loyola hasn't offered anything like that yet. Just know that this over acceptance isn't a localized issue, many schools are facing that this year.

Acceptances fluctuate a lot. Try not to worry about it. If they decide to accept 20 less people this next year that means that they will accept 330 and not 350 (ish)... not a huge change.

Also, to those applying, I was really impressed with the character displayed by the staff and students at Loyola during my interview/2nd look day. I had some good acceptances but chose Loyola because they really seemed to care about their students.

Good luck this cycle. If you guys want any info or need help please feel free to ask, I'm happy to try to help any way that I can.

Thanks for the info! I am applying this year, but I'm taking the MCAT on Aug 4th. So my scores won't be released until Sept 5th. I'm submitting the primary within the next few days, but the secondary won't be done until end of August, provided I receive it before then, or if I have they have a screening process then not until after September 5th. Anyways, my question is, would it be worth even applying to Loyola for the 2013 cycle, this late?

Thanks for the info! I am applying this year, but I'm taking the MCAT on Aug 4th. So my scores won't be released until Sept 5th. I'm submitting the primary within the next few days, but the secondary won't be done until end of August, provided I receive it before then, or if I have they have a screening process then not until after September 5th. Anyways, my question is, would it be worth even applying to Loyola for the 2013 cycle, this late?
hey I applied in a similar timeline last year, assuming this is your first (?) mcat, you won't get the secondary until after you get your score. so if you pre write the essays you can submit right away. hard to answer if that will be too "late" for you though, it all really depends on your strength as an applicant and how well you'd fit in their program

Thanks so much, I appreciate it. Yep, this will be my first (and hopefully last) MCAT. I have a 3.64 overall GPA and a 3.6 science GPA. I'm shooting for a 30-32 MCAT (fingers crossed).

Thanks for the info! I am applying this year, but I'm taking the MCAT on Aug 4th. So my scores won't be released until Sept 5th. I'm submitting the primary within the next few days, but the secondary won't be done until end of August, provided I receive it before then, or if I have they have a screening process then not until after September 5th. Anyways, my question is, would it be worth even applying to Loyola for the 2013 cycle, this late?

Are you asking if it would be worth applying to Loyola specifically? Or applying to medical school in general? It sounds like you will be applying, but are questioning applying to Loyola specifically. I am not one to speculate on possibilities of acceptance. However, if you're applying during the 2012-2013 cycle regardless, you wouldn't lose a thing applying to Loyola. Last year I went back and added 2 schools late in the cycle and ended up getting II to both and an acceptance at one.

I'll put it this way. You're goal is to get accepted. To get accepted you have to apply.... Although it is late you have nothing to lose.

hey guys does anyone know what the character limits are on the essays? I looked through last year's thread briefly but didn't see it anywhere, thanks!

hey guys, anyone know when the secondary comes out? I know loyola screens, but can anyone give an estimate? thanks

hey guys does anyone know what the character limits are on the essays? I looked through last year's thread briefly but didn't see it anywhere, thanks!

from what i saw its 25 lines. no character or word limit, just a line limit, whatever that means.

hey guys does anyone know what the character limits are on the essays? I looked through last year's thread briefly but didn't see it anywhere, thanks!

If you look through last year's thread there is a huge debate about the significance of what 25 lines means. I'm sure that this debate will come up again on this year's thread if the secondary is the same. Personally I think they just do this so that you don't go overboard and write something super long. You will do yourself a lot of good if you don't stress too much about the exact meaning of the 25 lines and just get the secondary in ASAP. I think its vague because they don't mind if you go a little long.


I will recommend that you take your time and put together a solid secondary and like I said, submit it ASAP. My interviewers had really dug through my secondary essays and we discussed minor things that the average reader could not find by skimming. All of this information just comes from my personal experience and the experience of friends who applied last year.

gotcha thanks! I didn't see that debate I only glanced through the first 2 pages of last year's thread

so I gather no one here has received the secondary yet?

so I gather no one here has received the secondary yet?

nope

One of the first secondaries I pre-wrote and one of the last secondaries to be received (haven't received it yet)...

One of the first secondaries I pre-wrote and one of the last secondaries to be received (haven't received it yet)...

Are you sure it'll be the same this year? It's my last "real" secondary and doesn't look too terrifying, but I'm afraid they'll change up the prompts.

My longest essay answer last year was just under 300 words which I think was almost exactly 25 lines so as long as you stay somewhere around there, you'll be fine. Good luck everyone!

No love from loyola yet?

Just got the secondary. Haven't opened it yet. Are we sure they screen?

Just got the secondary. Haven't opened it yet. Are we sure they screen?

Congrats! I haven't heard anything from them at all, but I'm pretty sure they screen.

Just got the secondary. Haven't opened it yet. Are we sure they screen?

can you post the prompts please?

their website isnt working. but i will post as soon as i can get it to run. It seems like i need to pay the fee first before accessing the secondary but i'm having trouble figuring out how to pay the 75 bucks. will keep you posted

ok just called admissions. there was a mistake. they forgot an attachment with the information on how to pay. so he said another email will be going out end of day today or tomorrow morning. will keep you posted.

their website isnt working. but i will post as soon as i can get it to run. It seems like i need to pay the fee first before accessing the secondary but i'm having trouble figuring out how to pay the 75 bucks. will keep you posted

Thanks!

No one else get the email?

No one else get the email?

I haven't gotten it yet.

Yeah it's definitely their end. I've tried almost every browser

their website isnt working. but i will post as soon as i can get it to run. It seems like i need to pay the fee first before accessing the secondary but i'm having trouble figuring out how to pay the 75 bucks. will keep you posted

Thank you! This was one of the first secondaries I pre-wrote.

No one else get the email?

I haven't gotten it yet.

Me neither.

Any one hear any news today?

Good luck everyone. Hang in there this year!

Just got secondary email

Oh good news congrats! Can you post the prompts soon?
Thanks!

I just got it too.

One of my longer ones I've had to fill out.... Dang... No stated character limits by the way. Good luck everyone.


1. Describe a valuable experience in your personal development? This might be a decision you have made, an achievement of which you are particularly proud of, or a person who has influenced your life.

2. Provide in detail an experience of working with individual(s) from diverse background(s). What was the experience? How did it have an impact on you?

3. Describe how you have dealt with a personal or academic challenge. Focus on what you learned about yourself and how it will help you during the challenges you might face in medical school.

4. Your patient has a rare disease and would be a great candidate for an experimental new treatment. You are the principle investigator for the research project and you and your Chair would like to pursue this experiment with the patient. The parents of your patient are adamant against the treatment. How would you handle this situation?

5. If you will not be enrolled as a full-time student during the current academic year, please explain what you will be doing prior to your planned matriculation into medical school? If you are a re-applicant, please tell us how your application has improved since the last time you applied.

6. Please use this space to bring the information in your AMCAS application up-to-date. Please indicate additional grades earned, alterations in your proposed coursework or graduation date, address changes, additions to your list of activities, and anything else you feel we should know.

I just got it too.

One of my longer ones I've had to fill out.... Dang... No stated character limits by the way. Good luck everyone.


1. Describe a valuable experience in your personal development? This might be a decision you have made, an achievement of which you are particularly proud of, or a person who has influenced your life.

2. Provide in detail an experience of working with individual(s) from diverse background(s). What was the experience? How did it have an impact on you?

3. Describe how you have dealt with a personal or academic challenge. Focus on what you learned about yourself and how it will help you during the challenges you might face in medical school.

4. Your patient has a rare disease and would be a great candidate for an experimental new treatment. You are the principle investigator for the research project and you and your Chair would like to pursue this experiment with the patient. The parents of your patient are adamant against the treatment. How would you handle this situation?

5. If you will not be enrolled as a full-time student during the current academic year, please explain what you will be doing prior to your planned matriculation into medical school? If you are a re-applicant, please tell us how your application has improved since the last time you applied.

6. Please use this space to bring the information in your AMCAS application up-to-date. Please indicate additional grades earned, alterations in your proposed coursework or graduation date, address changes, additions to your list of activities, and anything else you feel we should know.

Crap that's a lot of detailed questions! Thanks for posting!

Thanks for posting the prompts jameschoun!

Same as last year! Done, just waiting on them to email it to me :)

Same as last year! Done, just waiting on them to email it to me :)

Urgh I'm jealous!!

I haven't gotten the secondary yet...

Me either...

I haven't gotten the secondary yet...

Me neither... looks like only a few people have so far, so hopefully they'll be rolling them out to the rest of us soon.

Got mine today!

Urgh I'm jealous!!

It's actually a good one to pre-write because you can use a lot of the answers for other schools' secondary.

It's actually a good one to pre-write because you can use a lot of the answers for other schools' secondary.

Good deal. I've been slacking on some of my secondary essays.. really need to get going!

Haven't received this one yet. But the essays look like ones I've written a dozen times already, so shouldn't be too bad.

is loyola's website/application site down for anyone else?

edit: nvm got it. hOLY ethical question loyola! was not expecting that, though I like it much better than the "what do you hope to get out of medicine?" question

I'm not sure if anyone else is having difficulty separating paragraphs, but I found that by inserting this in place of just pressing "return" will give me the desired newline character:

<br />

I am placing two of these between paragraphs.

Good luck to everyone!

Anyone else having issues uploading a photo? I have the right format and everything, but it wont let me click on my jpeg files.... frustrating. Suggestions?

Received secondary today. Don't think I've ever had a secondary arrive on a weekend before.

So, it seems a few have received the secondary now, huh? Looks like my break will be over soon...

About how many words is 25 lines supposed to be?

About how many words is 25 lines supposed to be?
my first essay was about 18 lines and it was 1100 characters.

This is a pretty beast secondary. Since they are not extending II until September, probably going to hold off on doing this right now.

Does anyone know what the screen was for getting a secondary?

This is a pretty beast secondary. Since they are not extending II until September, probably going to hold off on doing this right now.
Wait, so if we didn't get one now, we won't get on until September?

.

So the limit of 25 lines per question....is that 25 lines when composed in Word, or 25 lines when pasted into their secondary boxes? The box sizes on the secondary are adjustable, which would change the number of lines....

I have this same question, and also, does AMCAS Letter Service make sure our names and AMCAS ID are on all our letters of rec that we uploaded through them? Because I'm 100% sure my letter writers did not put my AMCAS ID on my letters...

Does anyone know what the screen was for getting a secondary?

Not too high. I got one on the 19th, and I'm pretty average. (Check my MDapps.)

Not too high. I got one on the 19th, and I'm pretty average. (Check my MDapps.)

I'm going to guess that they started sending them out bit by bit later this week, and that no one will get anything today. Probably will start seeing a bunch more tomorrow. Their screens are very low for secondaries (maybe 3.0/25 variety).

I have this same question, and also, does AMCAS Letter Service make sure our names and AMCAS ID are on all our letters of rec that we uploaded through them? Because I'm 100% sure my letter writers did not put my AMCAS ID on my letters...

If they were uploaded on AMCAS (and not interfolio) it shouldn't be a problem. The AMCAS ID on the letter is mostly so AMCAS can identify which application to upload it to. Schools don't care so long as it gets sent to them by AMCAS.

Submitted just now.
Not too bad of a secondary at all IMHO.

Submitted just now.
Not too bad of a secondary at all IMHO.

How long were your essays? I'm just wondering how you figured out what "25 lines" should be.

Ugh, is it so hard to just give us a character or word limit...

How long were your essays? I'm just wondering how you figured out what "25 lines" should be.

Ugh, is it so hard to just give us a character or word limit...


Agreed, although, if you press "Print my Application", then the application comes up. I had like 35ish-40ish lines when typing it in, but the printed application had like 25ish.

I keep on seeing references to this "Letter of Recommendation Inventory Form." Where do we see or fill out this form? Is it available in one of the later stages of submitting the secondary? I'm confused, I would appreciate some help.

I keep on seeing references to this "Letter of Recommendation Inventory Form." Where do we see or fill out this form? Is it available in one of the later stages of submitting the secondary? I'm confused, I would appreciate some help.
This is what my status says:


As of today, Sunday, July 22, 2012, your application status is:

Application status:

We have received your supplemental application. We ask that you please allow at least one month for downloading letters and completion of your file. Thank you.



I interpret this to mean that no further action on my part is required. The references to a letters inventory may be some legacy reference to a recently changed application procedure?

So I don't have a non-science faculty LOR, and the supplemental instructions said to explain in the Letter of Rec Inventory Form. Does anyone know where on the form I'm supposed to mention this?

I interpret this to mean that no further action on my part is required. The references to a letters inventory may be some legacy reference to a recently changed application procedure?

So I guess there is no LOR inventory form? If anyone else knows of such a form please let me know.

So I guess there is no LOR inventory form? If anyone else knows of such a form please let me know.

Before you submit your secondary the last page is the LOR inventory form. It asks you to select between committee letter or 2 science faculty + 1 non-science faculty.

Before you submit your secondary the last page is the LOR inventory form. It asks you to select between committee letter or 2 science faculty + 1 non-science faculty.

Oh got it, thanks.

Submitted just now.
Not too bad of a secondary at all IMHO.

When did you get it? I still haven't received the email..

When did you get it? I still haven't received the email..

I got mine on saturday morning. Weird, I know.

i got mine on saturday morning. Weird, i know.

+1

I got mine on saturday morning. Weird, I know.

+1

Hopefully mine comes this week!

So on question #9, where they ask if we permit them to notify our academic adviser of decisions on our application, does anyone know if we are penalized for answering "no?" I'm a non-trad and it just seems a little strange/irrelevant to me to notify my academic adviser, who I rarely used and don't even know if they are still the adviser at my school.

Thoughts anyone?

So on question #9, where they ask if we permit them to notify our academic adviser of decisions on our application, does anyone know if we are penalized for answering "no?" I'm a non-trad and it just seems a little strange/irrelevant to me to notify my academic adviser, who I rarely used and don't even know if they are still the adviser at my school.

Thoughts anyone?

I've always said no on this, and I would HOPE you don't get penalized. I don't think you would though, I think universities might just like to hear where some of their students end up, so medical schools will ask.

I haven't gotten it, but for those who have it, how are you answering the "diversity" question. I have plenty of experiences in that regard, but I'm using it as an opportunity to talk in general about my volunteer experiences. However, I feel like that's not what the question is asking for, and I'm wasting time talking about my volunteer experiences when it's already on the AMCAS. Any advice?

I haven't gotten it, but for those who have it, how are you answering the "diversity" question. I have plenty of experiences in that regard, but I'm using it as an opportunity to talk in general about my volunteer experiences. However, I feel like that's not what the question is asking for, and I'm wasting time talking about my volunteer experiences when it's already on the AMCAS. Any advice?

Answering that was pretty easy for me. I spent a summer in S. Africa studying and volunteering :P

hopefully mine comes this week!

+1

Just received the secondary :)

Got the secondary this morning!

got the secondary this morning!

+1

Anyone else having issues uploading a photo? I have the right format and everything, but it wont let me click on my jpeg files.... frustrating. Suggestions?

I am having the same issue. Has anyone dealt with this?

I use a windows PC and originally the file-selector that pops up defaults to uploading GIFs. I had to change the dropdown to make it show "All Files" in order to select my jpegs

So on question #9, where they ask if we permit them to notify our academic adviser of decisions on our application, does anyone know if we are penalized for answering "no?" I'm a non-trad and it just seems a little strange/irrelevant to me to notify my academic adviser, who I rarely used and don't even know if they are still the adviser at my school.

Thoughts anyone?

I answered NO on my application last year and didn't have any problems. Don't worry about it.

Got the secondary this morning!

Me too

Has everyone received the secondary that applied for one?

Has everyone received the secondary that applied for one?
I have.. The email address that sends them has the word auto in it and I got mine on Saturday morning, so I'm going to assume it's computer generated. I'm sure yours is coming!

Just received and submitted!

Woohoo secondary received.

I don't have 0's in the beginning of my amcas ID...?

I don't have 0's in the beginning of my amcas ID...?

add them

Woohoo secondary received.

Glad to hear, sorry you had to wait so long.

Guys for the next to last prompt, did you write significantly less?

I found it hard to fill up even 15 lines, and I read up on some ethics and discussed both sides etc.

I had 22-25 for the first 3...

Guys for the next to last prompt, did you write significantly less?

I found it hard to fill up even 15 lines, and I read up on some ethics and discussed both sides etc.

I had 22-25 for the first 3...
the what are you doing this year one?

the what are you doing this year one?

No, the patient with rare disease you have a research project that studies a novel experimental treatment but pt's parents are adamantly against the treatment one.

Received and Submitted this Dissertation of a secondary! And my ethics essay was just as long as my other ones...

I don't know about you guys, but I have applied to 15 schools and this is my longest secondary. I'm about half-way through right now...

I don't know about you guys, but I have applied to 15 schools and this is my longest secondary. I'm about half-way through right now...

I'm still working on some secondaries I got last week :( I got a little behind haha. My goal is to have them all in by August 1st.

I don't know about you guys, but I have applied to 15 schools and this is my longest secondary. I'm about half-way through right now...

Yes this is the beast mode secondary

No, the patient with rare disease you have a research project that studies a novel experimental treatment but pt's parents are adamantly against the treatment one.
oh yeah well the 25 lines is a max, not a goal. i'm sure if you've adequately covered the topic in whatever amount of lines you have, it's fine.

oh yeah well the 25 lines is a max, not a goal. i'm sure if you've adequately covered the topic in whatever amount of lines you have, it's fine.

Yeah, I took my PI's advice and answered it as concisely as possible. One of the few times I didn't listen to SDN :rolleyes:

All of my essays except the last one (bring us up to date blah blah blah) were 20-24 lines. My last one was 32.

Ethics essay was interesting and something I would expect during an interview, not a secondary.

I got the email for the secondary on Saturday morning but I accidentally deleted it somehow. Can anybody send the link?

I got the email for the secondary on Saturday morning but I accidentally deleted it somehow. Can anybody send the link?

https://vault.lumc.edu/admis_applicants/default.cfm

https://vault.lumc.edu/admis_applicants/default.cfm


Thank you SO MUCH : )

Thank you SO MUCH : )

Welcome!

lmao i can copy paste responses from other schools for 4/5 of these essays

For the ethics question do we know if this patient is a minor or what he or she wants? I'm just confused why the patient's wishes are irrelevant. I'm not asking for anyone's essay idea, I'm just confused.

For the ethics question do we know if this patient is a minor or what he or she wants? I'm just confused why the patient's wishes are irrelevant. I'm not asking for anyone's essay idea, I'm just confused.

Must be a minor if the parent's wishes are relevant.

I wrote a paragraph of mine concerning if he was not a minor and his parents were just involved

I wrote a paragraph of mine concerning if he was not a minor and his parents were just involved
:confused: If he's not a minor then his parents don't matter.

I know that if I was in such a situation, my family would provide input which would matter to me. They are still involved even if he is not a minor

How are you guys counting 25 lines? 25 lines in word with 12 pt font? or on the secondary website

Must be a minor if the parent's wishes are relevant.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

How are you guys counting 25 lines? 25 lines in word with 12 pt font? or on the secondary website

secondary website.

secondary website.

thank you

It's best not to assume anything. What if the disease resulted in the patient being comatose, and the parents had to make a decision? Keep it broad but concise, as weird as that sounds. I think they do this to discern how you think about the question, or to possibly see how much clinical knowledge you might possess at this stage. If the patient was a minor then they probably would've said that based on my previous statement. I'm happy I took a medical ethics class.

How are you guys counting 25 lines? 25 lines in word with 12 pt font? or on the secondary website

I typed my in Word first with Times New Roman 12 point and ended up with the exact same line breaks when pasting into the website, if that helps.

Still no secondary. :-/

Still no secondary. :-/

Have faith. It will come :)

Still no secondary. :-/

I haven't gotten the email with the secondary yet either. I went to the site posted on this page and entered in my aamc id and it let me log in. My status says :We have received your application from AMCAS and we are currently screening your academic credentials. We will be sending additional information to you within the next few weeks.

Do you think it would be a bad idea to just do the secondary now or should I wait til I get the official invite to do the secondary via email?

Do you think it would be a bad idea to just do the secondary now or should I wait til I get the official invite to do the secondary via email?

Never submit one before you are officially invited to - in some cases they may throw out your application.

You're still ahead of the game.. many people are still waiting for their primaries to be processed so I'm sure you will be fine.

IMHO yes. Just work on the prompts and be ready when it comes.
good luck

Unfortunately you have to pay before you get access to the secondary. I don't want them to see that I paid before I even got officially invited, so it looks like I'm waiting.

edit: They aren't in the OP, but can anyone that has access post the secondary prompts?

Unfortunately you have to pay before you get access to the secondary. I don't want them to see that I paid before I even got officially invited, so it looks like I'm waiting.

edit: They aren't in the OP, but can anyone that has access post the secondary prompts?

See above... they've been posted already.

Never submit one before you are officially invited to - in some cases they may throw out your application.

You're still ahead of the game.. many people are still waiting for their primaries to be processed so I'm sure you will be fine.

+1. It's not worth the risk.

almost ready to submit this secondary off... which turned out to be a life novel.

Question for anyone who is at this stage, when you click 'print app' to preview it, all of my essays turn into blobs, even though I put two lines in between each paragraph like they asked - is anyone having the same issue? it's rather unsightly to just have blobs like that... or maybe that's just how it looks on the print preview, not sure...?

almost ready to submit this secondary off... which turned out to be a life novel.

Question for anyone who is at this stage, when you click 'print app' to preview it, all of my essays turn into blobs, even though I put two lines in between each paragraph like they asked - is anyone having the same issue? it's rather unsightly to just have blobs like that... or maybe that's just how it looks on the print preview, not sure...?
I found that by inserting the characters below in place of just pressing "return" will give me the desired newline character:

<br />

I am placed two of these between paragraphs and it gave me a double space.

I found that by inserting the characters below in place of just pressing "return" will give me the desired newline character:

<br />

I am placed two of these between paragraphs and it gave me a double space.
hahaha - sorry about the grammar. I had posted this on page 2 and just now failed to edit it successfully after copying and pasting.

hahaha - sorry about the grammar. I had posted this on page 2 and just now failed to edit it successfully after copying and pasting.

ohhh i see what you were saying. I did see that post earlier but didn't understand.. ok I will try that, but now I am also noticing that these characters: " and '

are not showing up either... and I need them to quote a couple things...

I just let my essays blob together.

I just let my essays blob together.

Another blobber here.

ohhh i see what you were saying. I did see that post earlier but didn't understand.. ok I will try that, but now I am also noticing that these characters: " and '

are not showing up either... and I need them to quote a couple things...
hmmm.... I would try googling it. I think the language is HTML. My guess would be to try sequential double/single quotes (example: I said ""hello"" to Mr. Bean instead of I said "hello" to Mr. Bean).

If that doesn't work, you could try this:
double quote: &quot;
single quote:

I don't know for sure that either of those will work though but I googled newline character and guessed what language they used to write the page to figure out what might give me a newline character. I think something similar should work to figure out quotes and apostrophes. Hope that helps!

EDIT: SDN uses HTML - Go here for codes: http://www.ascii.cl/htmlcodes.htm

hmmm.... I would try googling it. I think the language is HTML. My guess would be to try sequential double/single quotes (example: I said ""hello"" to Mr. Bean instead of I said "hello" to Mr. Bean).

If that doesn't work, you could try this:
double quote: &quot;
single quote:

I don't know for sure that either of those will work though but I googled newline character and guessed what language they used to write the page to figure out what might give me a newline character. I think something similar should work to figure out quotes and apostrophes. Hope that helps!

EDIT: SDN uses HTML - Go here for codes: http://www.ascii.cl/htmlcodes.htm

Wow, thanks for being so helpful!!!!! Do you think it's weird to submit the secondary back within a day? Or do schools generally know that people pre-write essays?

Wow, thanks for being so helpful!!!!! Do you think it's weird to submit the secondary back within a day? Or do schools generally know that people pre-write essays?
I pre-wrote everything I could and have been returning them as quickly as possible because I think it might be more helpful to get it in quickly. I also think that if it's well written and they don't think you pre-wrote, it could impress them! Or that's what I'm hoping...

Good luck!

OK thanks! I think it's best to submit them right away as well since interview spots fill up so quickly!!! Good luck to you as well!

What do we write for question #6 if we graduated already and don't have any updates on our AMCAS app???

What do we write for question #6 if we graduated already and don't have any updates on our AMCAS app???
Nothing.

What do we write for question #6 if we graduated already and don't have any updates on our AMCAS app???
i didnt' write anything there.

i didnt' write anything there.

Same.

Same.

Awesome, thanks guys:thumbup:

+1. It's not worth the risk.

To be fair, that sort of bit us in the ass with LECOM-E.

But overall I agree -- it's still an unnecessary risk.

Submitted!

anyone figure out where to explain a lack of a non-science faculty letter? I don't see a logical spot on the letter inventory form...

Already PMed you, but for anyone else in this situation just email them explaining why you don't have it and what letter you want them to use instead.

Thanks Goobs! Just sent the clarifying email and submitted my app! Woohoo!

SSOM adcoms emailed me back already. my letters will be fine :)

I'm not sure if anyone else is having difficulty separating paragraphs, but I found that by inserting this in place of just pressing "return" will give me the desired newline character:

<br />

I am placing two of these between paragraphs.

Good luck to everyone!

works like a charm. thanks for this

6. Please use this space to bring the information in your AMCAS application up-to-date. Please indicate additional grades earned, alterations in your proposed coursework or graduation date, address changes, additions to your list of activities, and anything else you feel we should know '

So if we have nothing to say for the above. Should we reserve this space for explaining WHY Loyola??

Just submitted. Heck of a secondary.

I'm having trouble uploading my photo. It won't let me select any of my JPEG photos. Anyone else deal with this?

I'm having trouble uploading my photo. It won't let me select any of my JPEG photos. Anyone else deal with this?

Hey I had this same problem. It was due to using google chrome. I actually submitted my app and emailed a photo. They got back to me and reopened my app so I could upload the photo. You have to use internet explorer or safari. Hope this helps!

You have to use internet explorer or safari.

I used Firefox.

Submitted! I think they start offering II's fairly soon, if I'm not mistaken.

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And one more question. For all of the questions, do the experiences have to be ONLY DURING college? any insight on that?

Does the 25 line rule include the spaces between paragraphs?

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Could any current/former Stritch students or people who are familiar with the Chicago metropolitan area tell us about the neighborhood Stritch is located in? Is it a nice place to live? Is it easy to take mass transit into Downtown Chicago? Do most students have cars or use mas transit?

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status: Your file has been reviewed by the Committee on Admissions. The review process is continuous from now until the conclusion of our interview season in mid-April. If you are granted an interview, you will be contacted by phone and/or e-mail.

Looks like I'm on hold :(

status: Your file has been reviewed by the Committee on Admissions. The review process is continuous from now until the conclusion of our interview season in mid-April. If you are granted an interview, you will be contacted by phone and/or e-mail.

Looks like I'm on hold :(

When did you submit? My status still stays please allow a month for completion of your file or whatever.

My status is "Your file is complete and pending further review by our Committee on Admissions. If you are granted an interview you will be contacted by phone and/or email. Our interview season is September thru April and your file can be reviewed several times during this time."

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Secondary received: 7/20, submitted: 7/24

@DrAndy- you're right... At least it's not a outright rejection

Received 7/23, taken to post office 7/23.

Status as of now is We have received your supplemental application. We ask that you please allow at least one month for downloading letters and completion of your file. Thank you.

Received 7/23, taken to post office 7/23.

... post office??

Received 7/23, taken to post office 7/23.

Status as of now is

... post office??

Nope. Thinking of Rush. Rush & Mizzou make you mail in a check and some forms.

Nope. Thinking of Rush. Rush & Mizzou make you mail in a check and some forms.

Haha okay, good. I was thinking there was some obscure form I had forgotten!

Does Loyola screen? I've been AMCAS verified since June 27th, and I haven't received an email for the secondary yet.

Haha okay, good. I was thinking there was some obscure form I had forgotten!

Nope!

Does Loyola screen? I've been AMCAS verified since June 27th, and I haven't received an email for the secondary yet.

I'm pretty sure the MSAR said they don't.

Does Loyola screen? I've been AMCAS verified since June 27th, and I haven't received an email for the secondary yet.

I thought they do screen.

Someone mentioned putting two lines between paragraphs? Where did you see this instruction because I have not seen that written anywhere?

I thought they do screen.

Oh you're right. MSAR says they screen.

Hello Friends,

I submitted my AMCAS on 6/11. I still haven't received this secondary. Can anyone, who submitted their AMCAS on/around 6/11, tell me if they received this one or not?? It will be really helpful. Seems like i am already 11 days behind in this school's process. :(

Hello Friends,

I submitted my AMCAS on 6/11. I still haven't received this secondary. Can anyone, who submitted their AMCAS on/around 6/11, tell me if they received this one or not?? It will be really helpful. Seems like i am already 11 days behind in this school's process. :(


Haven't received secondary either. It's the only school which hasn't sent one to me. Verified 6/5. Don't think it's a screening issue; I think we'll get them today or tomorrow.

If you write these essays in Word like me, I've figured out the appropriate Word margins that match the app. Idk how to describe it but it should be past the 6 and then in between the first and second little line (im guessing like 6 3/16 inches but not sure exactly). This really helped me, hopefully it helps you guys!

There were a couple of my essays that were 25 lines in Word but 27ish lines when I pasted into the app. I just left it...I really don't think it's a huge huge deal.

Submitted 7/26. Hoping they mark me complete tomorrow! I'd REALLY love an interview here!

Under Review!

Under Review!

When did you submit??

I submitted to this school on 7/5 and still haven't received the secondary. :confused:

when did you submit??

7/23!

Under Review!

Same!

What do your statuses say?

What do your statuses say?

We have received all required information and your file is under review with the Committee on Admissions.

we have received all required information and your file is under review with the committee on admissions.

+1

Same status here! Finally!

I'm curious when interview invites begin going out!! I'm doing the MSP program at Stritch this fall, and it's going to be killer to walk around there, WISHING I could go to med school there!!

Under review as well!

were any one elses person of influence essays somewhat similar to the challenge essay? If so, any suggestions on this; obviously they're not entirely redundant but some of things learned are kind of similar.. Would this be ok? Thanks

Does anyone know what stats they screen at?

I'm still waiting on a secondary from here. Anyone else? I'll call in tomorrow to see what's up.

Not sure what they screen at, but last year I had a 29R (10/9/10), cGPA 3.49 and sGPA 3.34 and I got a secondary.

I received my secondary 2 days after being verified so I feel like they couldn't screen in that short of a time.

Just withdrew my app from Loyola (before submitting the secondary). I got interviews at a couple DO schools and I'm feeling good about those and think I'm going to focus more on DO since my stats are more competitive there.

Good luck to everyone who wants to go to Loyola!

Just withdrew my app from Loyola (before submitting the secondary). I got interviews at a couple DO schools and I'm feeling good about those and think I'm going to focus more on DO since my stats are more competitive there.

Good luck to everyone who wants to go to Loyola!

Good luck!

I'm still waiting on a secondary from here. Anyone else? I'll call in tomorrow to see what's up.

Same here. I submitted my AMCAS on 6/11 and I still haven't received this secondary.

Can you please let me know what they say when you call them?? Please!

were any one elses person of influence essays somewhat similar to the challenge essay? If so, any suggestions on this; obviously they're not entirely redundant but some of things learned are kind of similar.. Would this be ok? Thanks

Mine were two completely different situations. I won't steer you in the wrong directions by saying something I *think* is right because my opinion probably won't be right! :P

My essays were nothing more than sincere and personal accounts that have influenced my decisions to pursue the career path of a physician.

Does anyone have an e-mail address that would help me get in touch with someone in admissions? I have a <29 MCAT and I'm wondering if that's why I haven't received the secondary yet. Either way, I sort of want to know if I was screened out for sure. :scared:

Not sure what they screen at, but last year I had a 29R (10/9/10), cGPA 3.49 and sGPA 3.34 and I got a secondary.

3.1s/3.04c/33Q screened in this year.

Does anyone have an e-mail address that would help me get in touch with someone in admissions? I have a <29 MCAT and I'm wondering if that's why I haven't received the secondary yet. Either way, I sort of want to know if I was screened out for sure. :scared:

I also haven't got secondary yet! My stat is 32/4.0 and verified early in June...!

Someone mentioned putting two lines between paragraphs? Where did you see this instruction because I have not seen that written anywhere?

anyone have insight into this?!

I also haven't got secondary yet! My stat is 32/4.0 and verified early in June...!

Haha, well they definitely wouldn't screen you out. That's weird though. I was also verified/submitted to them in June, but didn't get my MCAT scores back until a couple weeks ago. So who knows. Still, it's weird that you haven't gotten it yet either.

Haha, well they definitely wouldn't screen you out. That's weird though. I was also verified/submitted to them in June, but didn't get my MCAT scores back until a couple weeks ago. So who knows. Still, it's weird that you haven't gotten it yet either.

yeah.. it's hard to be patient hehe

anyone have insight into this?!

On my secondary it said to double space to indicate paragraphs. Hopefully I didn't make that up cause I already submitted haha

i'm still waiting on a secondary from here. Anyone else? I'll call in tomorrow to see what's up.

+1

On my secondary it said to double space to indicate paragraphs. Hopefully I didn't make that up cause I already submitted haha

I'm definitely not seeing this? :confused:

Double-spacing means one space in between (hit enter twice). When you double-space an entire paper, there is essentially one space in between lines. Don't call, just read and think...

Does anyone have an e-mail address that would help me get in touch with someone in admissions? I have a <29 MCAT and I'm wondering if that's why I haven't received the secondary yet. Either way, I sort of want to know if I was screened out for sure. :scared:

Just wait for them to contact you. A secondary may be on it's way. I don't understand why everybody feels the need to call the admissions office because they haven't heard anything yet. It's only August 5th.

Double-spacing means one space in between (hit enter twice). When you double-space an entire paper, there is essentially one space in between lines. Don't call, just read and think...

That's how I interpreted it to... just wasn't sure why I had heard a different interpretation earlier and didn't want to be the guy to not follow directions :D

Thanks

Anyone have any insight on being a third time re-applicant? I know Loyola recommends against applying a third time, but was curious if anyone has any particular knowledge or insight...

Anyone have any insight on being a third time re-applicant? I know Loyola recommends against applying a third time, but was curious if anyone has any particular knowledge or insight...

Just out of curiosity how have you not gotten in yet?! Your stats and activities look pretty good. Have you been applying to only really top notch schools for 2 years?

Just out of curiosity how have you not gotten in yet?! Your stats and activities look pretty good. Have you been applying to only really top notch schools for 2 years?

Haha, I wish I could say it was my choices in schools... I'll make it brief (if you're more curious I can always send you a PM):

I first applied three years ago--7 schools, 2 interviews, 1 waitlist (at my state school). I spoke to the dean of admissions at the school regarding my application, and he said it was mostly that I had limited clinical experience. At that time, I had only shadowed two physicians and volunteered for four months on an oncology floor at a hospital. He said I should get more clinical experience and consider retaking my MCAT (31 was two points lower than the average matriculant there). Perhaps more significantly, he recommended I sit out a year to improve my application, since back-to-back applications really isn't enough time to improve an application significantly.

Of course, being young and restless, I didn't take his advice and applied the next year. Both schools that interviewed me rejected me pre-interview, and I didn't get any interviews until the end of the school (just one). I emailed the dean again and he basically said, "Well, you did these things [getting clinical experience], but not to the level we wanted to see."

The reality is that he was serious--a year isn't enough time, and if you're a re-applicant, you have a significantly lower chance unless you are really impressive.

It makes sense, but at the time I was pretty skeptical, and I've paid for it. HOWEVER, I've had a TON of incredible opportunities since then in a number of areas, and looking back I'm glad I was rejected--I wasn't ready then, and was pretty bitter, as many of my friends got in, and even some people I mentored on how to prepare for medical school (even people I personally TUTORED!). However, as time has passed I've realized how qualified many applicants are (including my friends and the people I mentored), and am happy they were accepted, because they are truly incredible people with great potential.

But I'm ready now, and more eager than ever to get started on my medical career. I'm incredibly grateful and happy to be where I am, and can only hope admissions committees see that and give me a shot.

:thumbup:

Does anyone here know how early Loyola typically starts sending out interview invites?

Haha, I wish I could say it was my choices in schools... I'll make it brief (if you're more curious I can always send you a PM):

I first applied three years ago--7 schools, 2 interviews, 1 waitlist (at my state school). I spoke to the dean of admissions at the school regarding my application, and he said it was mostly that I had limited clinical experience. At that time, I had only shadowed two physicians and volunteered for four months on an oncology floor at a hospital. He said I should get more clinical experience and consider retaking my MCAT (31 was two points lower than the average matriculant there). Perhaps more significantly, he recommended I sit out a year to improve my application, since back-to-back applications really isn't enough time to improve an application significantly.

Of course, being young and restless, I didn't take his advice and applied the next year. Both schools that interviewed me rejected me pre-interview, and I didn't get any interviews until the end of the school (just one). I emailed the dean again and he basically said, "Well, you did these things [getting clinical experience], but not to the level we wanted to see."

The reality is that he was serious--a year isn't enough time, and if you're a re-applicant, you have a significantly lower chance unless you are really impressive.

It makes sense, but at the time I was pretty skeptical, and I've paid for it. HOWEVER, I've had a TON of incredible opportunities since then in a number of areas, and looking back I'm glad I was rejected--I wasn't ready then, and was pretty bitter, as many of my friends got in, and even some people I mentored on how to prepare for medical school (even people I personally TUTORED!). However, as time has passed I've realized how qualified many applicants are (including my friends and the people I mentored), and am happy they were accepted, because they are truly incredible people with great potential.

But I'm ready now, and more eager than ever to get started on my medical career. I'm incredibly grateful and happy to be where I am, and can only hope admissions committees see that and give me a shot.

:thumbup:

:thumbup: your story is so much like mine! Best of luck to ya this cycle!

Haha, I wish I could say it was my choices in schools... I'll make it brief (if you're more curious I can always send you a PM):

I first applied three years ago--7 schools, 2 interviews, 1 waitlist (at my state school). I spoke to the dean of admissions at the school regarding my application, and he said it was mostly that I had limited clinical experience. At that time, I had only shadowed two physicians and volunteered for four months on an oncology floor at a hospital. He said I should get more clinical experience and consider retaking my MCAT (31 was two points lower than the average matriculant there). Perhaps more significantly, he recommended I sit out a year to improve my application, since back-to-back applications really isn't enough time to improve an application significantly.

Of course, being young and restless, I didn't take his advice and applied the next year. Both schools that interviewed me rejected me pre-interview, and I didn't get any interviews until the end of the school (just one). I emailed the dean again and he basically said, "Well, you did these things [getting clinical experience], but not to the level we wanted to see."

The reality is that he was serious--a year isn't enough time, and if you're a re-applicant, you have a significantly lower chance unless you are really impressive.

It makes sense, but at the time I was pretty skeptical, and I've paid for it. HOWEVER, I've had a TON of incredible opportunities since then in a number of areas, and looking back I'm glad I was rejected--I wasn't ready then, and was pretty bitter, as many of my friends got in, and even some people I mentored on how to prepare for medical school (even people I personally TUTORED!). However, as time has passed I've realized how qualified many applicants are (including my friends and the people I mentored), and am happy they were accepted, because they are truly incredible people with great potential.

But I'm ready now, and more eager than ever to get started on my medical career. I'm incredibly grateful and happy to be where I am, and can only hope admissions committees see that and give me a shot.

:thumbup:

If you don't get into medical school this cycle ... this is what is going to happen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cqJG-fOoTM#t=00m08s

Hey guys quick question on how to interpret essay 2. It says "Provide in detail an experience of working with individual(s) from diverse background(s)." Does this mean actually working with them as in they are co workers/peers? Or would holding a week long seminar for minority high school students constitute as "working with individuals from diverse backgrounds." I would rather talk about this experience but I could go in either direction.

Hey guys quick question on how to interpret essay 2. It says "Provide in detail an experience of working with individual(s) from diverse background(s)." Does this mean actually working with them as in they are co workers/peers? Or would holding a week long seminar for minority high school students constitute as "working with individuals from diverse backgrounds." I would rather talk about this experience but I could go in either direction.
I think your experience would be a great thing to talk about and would definitely meet the criteria

I think your experience would be a great thing to talk about and would definitely meet the criteria

+1

I actually wrote about a very similar experience ;)

For everyone who has not received the secondary. I called the office today and they said that they were still in the process of screening my application and I should hear something in the next week or two.

I was verified early by AMCAS and went out on the first AMCAS batch on 6/29.
I have a feeling I might be screened out. It has to be a holistic screen because my stats are not that far off Loyola's average. Might explain the difference between received and completed.

AMCAS Applications Received 9,846
Completed Applications 5,724
Applicants Interviewed 547
Acceptances Offered 365

So any word on how bad it looks to go over the recommended 25 lines? I like to talk..... Also, Is a "line" the same for everyone, regardless of screen resolution/browser? Mine is a bit shorter than one line in Microsoft Word.

my word counts are currently between 300-400... can anyone else comment on how many words their essays were? I have a feeling mine are a bit too long... They are around 25 lines in word. I heard its ok to go over, but it seem like I'm pushing it a little.

So any word on how bad it looks to go over the recommended 25 lines? I like to talk..... Also, Is a "line" the same for everyone, regardless of screen resolution/browser? Mine is a bit shorter than one line in Microsoft Word.

I found that writing in Word in Times New Roman in 11 font was pretty accurate with the line count once I pasted it over.

Hello again,

I still haven't received a secondary from Loyola. I have no idea why!!!

I guess I have decent GPA and MCAT. So I don't think it's the screening issue here. What do you guys think?? ... Should I email them now or should I wait for a couple of more days??

btw ... I submitted AMCAS on 6/11. So I don't think I am that late in the cycle either. :(

Okay so my status changed from the "under review" message, to a message saying that the committee had reviewed my application, that interviews ran through April, and that I would be notified by phone or email if I received an interview. I'm assuming this is their "on-hold" status? It kind of seems that way at least....:(

So I uploaded my photo and I got the "your photo has been successfully uploaded" message, but if I click on that upload photo link again it looks as if I haven't uploaded one yet. Is there nothing that says I've uploaded it? Sorry I know this is slightly neurotic but I don't want to mess this up!

EDIT: Nevermind! I found out you can look at it on the "print application part"

I have the same status. I think it just means youve been reviewed. They say they ll contact you by phone and/or email so Im guessing they dont update your status online.

hmm that's a good point, especially since I guess it's still early....unfortunately I just went through a few pages of last year's thread and it looks like it might indeed be a "hold" status. I guess it's impossible to tell and we'll have to wait and see.

they haven't given out any II right? sorry too lazy this early in the mornign to look through the thread

I got my interview invite yesterday morning; they called by phone. Available dates starting in September

when did you complete your application? Thx!

I got my interview invite yesterday morning; they called by phone. Available dates starting in September

I got my interview invite yesterday morning; they called by phone. Available dates starting in September

Congrats!

My status says "pending further review by our Committee on Admissions." I'm not sure what it said before this because I'm just looking for the first time, but I see that others originally had "under review" statuses.

Does this possibly mean "small pooling"?

For those still waiting for a secondary, I just received the Loyola secondary. My AMCAS was verified on June 27th.

My status says "pending further review by our Committee on Admissions." I'm not sure what it said before this because I'm just looking for the first time, but I see that others originally had "under review" statuses.

Does this possibly mean "small pooling"?

I have the same status...I think it's a hold but I'm not 100% sure :shrug:

My status is :
We have received your supplemental application. We ask that you please allow at least one month for downloading letters and completion of your file. Thank you.
But I just submitted yesterday.

My status is :
We have received your supplemental application. We ask that you please allow at least one month for downloading letters and completion of your file. Thank you.
But I just submitted yesterday.


I had that for ~1 weekish before my status changed to under review. My letters were already on AMCAS. no worries.

I had that for ~1 weekish before my status changed to under review. My letters were already on AMCAS. no worries.

+1 yah I'm under review now as well

When did you all submit? I submitted 7/27 and I still have the please allow a month status. My letters have been on AMCAS for months.

when did you all submit? I submitted 7/27 and i still have the please allow a month status. My letters have been on amcas for months.

+1

Hey guys, just checking up on the thread and saw some questions, thought I would give some insight. Stritch is in Maywood, a suburb of Chicago. Most first year students live either in Oak Park or Forest Park, and most have cars (but a few don't). Transportation is pretty easy to and from the city.

Also, I know this is a stressful time. Try to remember the office of admissions is small and they individually look over each primary and secondary, so try not to get worked up if you don't hear back right away. They do a great job at selecting awesome students and because of that the review process is thorough and time consuming. Best of luck this cycle.

If you guys have any questions, feel free to PM me I'll do my best to get back to you.

For those still waiting for a secondary, I just received the Loyola secondary. My AMCAS was verified on June 27th.

Jealous, still waiting for mine.

Just got mine as well!

when did you complete your application? Thx!

Secondary received: July 21st
Secondary submitted: July 24th
Interview Invite: August 7th

anyone figure out how to upload a pic on a mac? my jpegs won't show up as selectable files....

anyone figure out how to upload a pic on a mac? my jpegs won't show up as selectable files....

What I did was I removed the e in the.jpeg and made it .jpg and it worked

anyone figure out how to upload a pic on a mac? my jpegs won't show up as selectable files....
I was using Chrome and was having a problem, but switching to Safari worked fine

Interview invite! Scheduled for September 22.

supplementary app link is down for me.... anyone else?

yes its down

gracias, I'll post up if I check and it comes back online

Interview invite! Scheduled for September 22.

When did you submit? And stats, if you don't mind sharing?

Secondary is back up and running

Submitted :xf: Hoping i get an II after spending so much time on this damn secondary

Submitted :xf: Hoping i get an II after spending so much time on this damn secondary

+1

Tis a long one :(

When did you submit? And stats, if you don't mind sharing?

Submitted July 23...so pretty quick turnaround.
3.81cGPA/3.85sGPA/32Q

I was using Chrome and was having a problem, but switching to Safari worked fine

It's funny. I was using Safari, because the instructions specifically said Firefox or Chrome won't work. After trying a few things with no luck, I tried Firefox.

Worked like a charm.

I wonder why my status is taking so long to change... but I don't wanna call and bug them!

I wonder why my status is taking so long to change... but I don't wanna call and bug them!

Know the feeling.

I still haven't recevied my secondary yet. I called once already so I don't want to pester them again. Verfied mid June.

Interview invite!!

Interview Invite! Schedules for Oct 29th!

Anyone have any advice on how long I should wait before I call? Submitted 7/27, still have the please allow one month status, but my letters have been in AMCAS for months.

Anyone have any advice on how long I should wait before I call? Submitted 7/27, still have the please allow one month status, but my letters have been in AMCAS for months.
it's more a matter of the letters being retrieved from amcas by them. give it at least the month they specified before you contact them

On hold :(

it's more a matter of the letters being retrieved from amcas by them. give it at least the month they specified before you contact them

Ah yeah. I just don't know why it's taking so long for me when I see others who submitted the same day as me or later with II's :( I'm so impatient and neurotic, this is killing me!

On hold :(

Is there a confirmed hold status?

Ah yeah. I just don't know why it's taking so long for me when I see others who submitted the same day as me or later with II's :( I'm so impatient and neurotic, this is killing me!

Same. It really puts doubt on whether or not there's something negative in your application. I knew this was going to be a psychological battle, but just knowing about it doesn't really make it that much better.

No character limit on these things, right?

"25 lines"

"25 lines"

Do you know if that's 25 lines on Word or in their little boxes? I just wrote 25 lines in word but now it's 40 lines in their box :(

Do you know if that's 25 lines on Word or in their little boxes? I just wrote 25 lines in word but now it's 40 lines in their box :(
prob 25 in their application

Is there a confirmed hold status?

It's the application has been reviewed status.

Sent via mobile

Hey guys, I'm at 30 lines on one of my essays. Do you think this would really be that big of a deal or should I try harder to cut it down to 25. Thanks.

Hey guys, I'm at 30 lines on one of my essays. Do you think this would really be that big of a deal or should I try harder to cut it down to 25. Thanks.

I would follow instructions and write 25. If they say keep it under 25, then listen, and keep it under 25. Most of mine were well under.

how do you pay for this school?
I heard it is 75.00

Do they require you to pay first to open up the secondary?
Or Do they ask at the end of the application (like most schools) to go directly to payment website and pay online using credit card?
Do we pay through mailing check?

how do you pay for this school?
I heard it is 75.00

Do they require you to pay first to open up the secondary?
Or Do they ask at the end of the application (like most schools) to go directly to payment website and pay online using credit card?
Do we pay through mailing check?

Yes, unlike many applications, you have to pay just to access the application. I paid with credit card online.

Pay online. You need to fill it out before you can even fill out the secondary!

Yes, unlike many applications, you have to pay just to access the application. I paid with credit card online.

Thanks for the info!

Secondary received: July 21st
Secondary submitted: July 24th
Interview Invite: August 7th

For all the people who have received interviews...will you tell us what your status online says?

Mine has said "Status Feedback Not Yet Defined!!!!" for the past week but I haven't received an interview call or email. Just wondering what this might mean.

Thanks :)

For all the people who have received interviews...will you tell us what your status online says?

Mine has said "Status Feedback Not Yet Defined!!!!" for the past week but I haven't received an interview call or email. Just wondering what this might mean.

Thanks :)
That's what mine said when I checked my status after I scheduled my interview.

EDIT: It still says that, several days later - maybe you should be expecting an interview? Good luck!

Submitted 7/26... Still haven't downloaded my letters. WHYYY

For about half of my essays, every time I try to submit one, the page drops out and the forms are just replaced with simple text reading "PB". I'm pretty sure this is because of essay length, as when I just leave a word or two in the box and continue it saves fine. But I'm getting this error with essays that are only a hundred words in length. I've lost an hour or two to this error, has anyone else encountered or overcame it?

Just for those freaking out about statuses, for the past year's cycle "Your application has been reviewed..." isn't necessarily a hold status. I had that status for a month and was given an interview.

However, I did apply much later than average in the cycle due to health issues, so I wasn't interviewed until the last few months in the cycle (just an fyi).

Hey everyone, I just called the school regarding the issues with the spacing between paragraphs not showing up when the application is printed. They said even though it does not show up on our print screen, it will on their end when they receive the secondary. So don't worry if you do not see spacing between your paragraphs!

Randomly got the secondary, well over a month after submission. I had given up hope. :D

For about half of my essays, every time I try to submit one, the page drops out and the forms are just replaced with simple text reading "PB". I'm pretty sure this is because of essay length, as when I just leave a word or two in the box and continue it saves fine. But I'm getting this error with essays that are only a hundred words in length. I've lost an hour or two to this error, has anyone else encountered or overcame it?
You must have a double dash "--" in your response. Take that out. Alternatively, I found that inputting one answer at a time and progressing to the next page and going back circumvents the problem.

Have you noticed that in addition to the 25 line it says in the Supplemental Application document attached to the email: please limit your response to a maximum of two paragraphs for each question. How can you write such a long essay with only two paragraphs?

Have you noticed that in addition to the 25 line it says in the Supplemental Application document attached to the email: please limit your response to a maximum of two paragraphs for each question. How can you write such a long essay with only two paragraphs?

Crapppp...I totally missed this part. I like to have multiple paragraphs. I was under 25 lines though so that seems stupid :mad:

Crapppp...I totally missed this part. I like to have multiple paragraphs. I was under 25 lines though so that seems stupid :mad:
I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that we're all really overvaluing and over worrying the 25 lines/paragraphs stuff. Relax, people.

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that we're all really overvaluing and over worrying the 25 lines/paragraphs stuff. Relax, people.

I'm pretty sure I broke all the rules when I wrote my essays: I did 25 lines on Word, and then just copied and pasted, so I have no idea how many lines they were in the box; and I forgot to do the double-space thing between paragraphs. I'm banking on their kind, Christian mercy.

I'm pretty sure I broke all the rules when I wrote my essays: I did 25 lines on Word, and then just copied and pasted, so I have no idea how many lines they were in the box; and I forgot to do the double-space thing between paragraphs. I'm banking on their kind, Christian mercy.

I used Times New Roman 12 font in word and the lines were exactly the same on the final application. I don't know how it would compare with differing fonts though.

Have you noticed that in addition to the 25 line it says in the Supplemental Application document attached to the email: please limit your response to a maximum of two paragraphs for each question. How can you write such a long essay with only two paragraphs?

Crapppp...I totally missed this part. I like to have multiple paragraphs. I was under 25 lines though so that seems stupid :mad:

it doesn't say anything about paragraphs in the document i received, just a maximum line limit...