In your own words, define altruism and provide an example (or two) of when you exhibited altruistic behavior. (600 words or less)

Articulate your understanding of social justice versus advocacy for social justice.(600 words or less)

Describe one or more experiences where you collaborated or worked as part of a team with people of different racial, ethnic and/or socioeconomic backgrounds and/or belief systems than your own. What impact did this experience(s) have on you? (600 words or less)

Good luck to everyone applying! :luck:

and so it begins

Dr. Capers, plz call me ^.^

I was accepted for the class entering 2012 and I just want to send waves of good karma to all the non-traditional applicants applying this year. Be persistent, here, and everywhere else you apply.

I was accepted for the class entering 2012 and I just want to send waves of good karma to all the non-traditional applicants applying this year. Be persistent, here, and everywhere else you apply.

Thank you! How do you like OSU?

Thank you! How do you like OSU?

I'll let you know next month when I move. Regardless, OSU established itself as my top choice amongst the schools I interviewed at and I am very, very thankful to have been accepted.

I'll let you know next month when I move. Regardless, OSU established itself as my top choice amongst the schools I interviewed at and I am very, very thankful to have been accepted.

If I may ask, what made OSU your top choice?

If I may ask, what made OSU your top choice?

Nothing that probably cannot be found at other schools, however I just felt like OSU was a great package. Top notch facilities, extensive alumni network, reputable name, in-state tuition for years 2-4 (if you're out-of-state), semi-metropolitan area, Big Ten football, etc... I also saw very eye-to-eye with my faculty interviewer which I am sure reinforced my interest. Most schools I interviewed at had a lot of positive attributes, but OSU just felt like the best place for me... hopefully I don't wind up eating those words over the next four years.

OSU is my top choice!!! application will be submitted monday!

Good luck everyone, OSU was my top choice when I applied two years ago and if I was applying now it still would be! Medical school is stressful no matter where you go but I still wake up feeling so lucky and grateful to be here. Good luck!

can someone comment on how OOS friendly OSU is? thanks

can someone comment on how OOS friendly OSU is? thanks

Osu traditionally takes upwards of fifty percent OOS. After first year you can qualify for IS tuition.

We love out of staters. Cincinnati does, too.

Osu traditionally takes upwards of fifty percent OOS. After first year you can qualify for IS tuition.

We love out of staters. Cincinnati does, too.

that's what I love to hear! Thanks for this. Makes me feel like I have a chance.
Amazing about getting IS tuition after first year.

I got an email from Ohio State talking about diversity and admission..
I'm an ORM (asian)..
Does this email mean anything? Stat wise(3.95/29) I wasn't up to par so I didn't bother to apply here..

I got an email from Ohio State talking about diversity and admission..
I'm an ORM (asian)..
Does this email mean anything? Stat wise(3.95/29) I wasn't up to par so I didn't bother to apply here..

I don't think you have an edge because you're Asian, but your GPA looks great. You could apply just to see what happens?

anyone received a secondary yet?

anyone received a secondary yet?

Nope :( but I believe they have been the same for at least the last two years.

Nope :( but I believe they have been the same for at least the last two years.

oh okay, thanks!

Looks like secondaries were out by early to mid June last year?

Looks like secondaries were out by early to mid June last year?

well that's troubling...i'll call tomorrow to ask :)

Looks like secondaries were out by early to mid June last year?

I wouldn't be worried by that. Schools couldn't even see our primaries until June 29th this year.

oh okay, haha well nvm then

anyone just get an email for user id activation?

Aye aye.

Received the username activation ... Looking forward to applying to this great school!

Received the username activation ... Looking forward to applying to this great school!

So does this mean you received a secondary, or something different?

please post secondary prompts when you find the time.

No secondary yet, unless I'm missing something. They just want us to register on their portal for now.

I just got an email to register an OSU account but no secondary, I'm assuming this is the case for everyone?

I just got an email to register an OSU account but no secondary, I'm assuming this is the case for everyone?

Did you read the last four posts?

Wow, for some reason I always thought "typicalindian" said Typical Canadian and just realized it didn't because I was going to post:

"Of course he didn't... he's canadian :meanie:" in response to this

Did you read the last four posts?

I'm so sad now :(


BTW, I got that email too

Did anyone apply here and NOT get a registration e-mail? I didn't, and I'm wondering if it's just the school processing things in batches or if my e-mail is screwing up somehow.

Did anyone apply here and NOT get a registration e-mail? I didn't, and I'm wondering if it's just the school processing things in batches or if my e-mail is screwing up somehow.

I applied and haven't gotten anything yet. I wouldn't worry. Last year when I applied, all I received was a secondary email, so maybe they changed something?

Did you read the last four posts?

clearly not. Reading is for chumps

So does this mean you received a secondary, or something different?
no secondary just username activation ... got a little too excited haha!

Did anyone else notice it says the activation ID will only be valid for 24 hours? So does that mean we should wait until we receive the secondary application before we get an activation ID?

Did anyone apply here and NOT get a registration e-mail? I didn't, and I'm wondering if it's just the school processing things in batches or if my e-mail is screwing up somehow.


I have not received anything yet either. I guess they send in batches, we'll probably get it tomorrow

Did anyone else notice it says the activation ID will only be valid for 24 hours? So does that mean we should wait until we receive the secondary application before we get an activation ID?

Nah dude that's just a security thing. Basically you have 24 hours to activate your account with that code. So just do it now, and register for your account username/password (which you will subsequently use to connect to the site)

Nah dude that's just a security thing. Basically you have 24 hours to activate your account with that code. So just do it now, and register for your account username/password (which you will subsequently use to connect to the site)

Gotcha thanks

Hey guys,

I got an email saying to register a Username and password, and then the email had a link to a supplemental application. However, after registering and getting a Username and password, clicking the link takes me to a broken page with no supplemental app. Anyone else having this issue?

Hey guys,

I got an email saying to register a Username and password, and then the email had a link to a supplemental application. However, after registering and getting a Username and password, clicking the link takes me to a broken page with no supplemental app. Anyone else having this issue?

If you're getting a page that says "Navigation Collection Not Found" then yes, I'm having that problem

Just kidding, I got to the main page, but I can't find any links for the supplemental app.

yep broken page here as well

yep broken page here as well

Uhhh.....I have no idea what's going on here.

yep broken page here as well
It says "Navigation Collection not found" :((. Was somebody able to access the application ?

It says "Navigation Collection not found" :((. Was somebody able to access the application ?

It doesn't sound like it. Has anyone tried to call admissions or anything?

It doesn't sound like it. Has anyone tried to call admissions or anything?
I just called them. They are having some technical issues and are working on it.

I got in. Slight change in essay questions and they added one.

I just called them. They are having some technical issues and are working on it.
It is working now. They have the best Admission Staff . They called me back to let me know that the problem is fixed.
Good luck to you all !!

Essays: In your own words, define altruism and provide an example or two where you exhibited altruistic behavior in your past activities.
(600 words or less)

Articulate your understanding of social justice versus advocacy for social justice.(600 words or less)
The face of medicine is changing and our goal is to provide physicians prepared to serve diverse populations. Describe one or more experiences you have had with people of different racial, ethnic, or socioeconomic backgrounds or belief systems than your own, and what impact this had on you.
(600 words or less)


Is anyone else a little stumped about a) why the second one is being asked and b) how to answer?

Essays: In your own words, define altruism and provide an example or two where you exhibited altruistic behavior in your past activities.
(600 words or less)

Articulate your understanding of social justice versus advocacy for social justice.(600 words or less)
The face of medicine is changing and our goal is to provide physicians prepared to serve diverse populations. Describe one or more experiences you have had with people of different racial, ethnic, or socioeconomic backgrounds or belief systems than your own, and what impact this had on you.
(600 words or less)


Is anyone else a little stumped about a) why the second one is being asked and b) how to answer?

I feel like the last question can be answered with "every day of my life" :laugh: are there really people who only interact with one ethnic group every day in this day and age?

It is working now. They have the best Admission Staff . They called me back to let me know that the problem is fixed.
Good luck to you all !!

after reading the essays. not fair. its obvious by your moniker that you have an inherent advantage.

after reading the essays. not fair. its obvious by your moniker that you have an inherent advantage.

:thumbup:

Essays: In your own words, define altruism and provide an example or two where you exhibited altruistic behavior in your past activities.
(600 words or less)

Articulate your understanding of social justice versus advocacy for social justice.(600 words or less)
The face of medicine is changing and our goal is to provide physicians prepared to serve diverse populations. Describe one or more experiences you have had with people of different racial, ethnic, or socioeconomic backgrounds or belief systems than your own, and what impact this had on you.
(600 words or less)


Is anyone else a little stumped about a) why the second one is being asked and b) how to answer?

The third question you have is different from mine. Mine is:

Describe one or more experiences where you collaborated or worked as part of a team with people of different racial, ethnic and/or socioeconomic backgrounds and/or belief systems than your own. What impact did this experience(s) have on you? (600 words or less)


Does anybody else have this question or the one jrut73 posted?

The third question you have is different from mine. Mine is:

Describe one or more experiences where you collaborated or worked as part of a team with people of different racial, ethnic and/or socioeconomic backgrounds and/or belief systems than your own. What impact did this experience(s) have on you? (600 words or less)


Does anybody else have this question or the one jrut73 posted?
Yea i have this one.

Yea i have this one.

Ok cool

Yea i have this one.


Whoops, my bad, weezy, I accidentally copied the wrong prompt (the third one I listed is the wording from last year)

Essays: In your own words, define altruism and provide an example or two where you exhibited altruistic behavior in your past activities.
(600 words or less)

Articulate your understanding of social justice versus advocacy for social justice.(600 words or less)
The face of medicine is changing and our goal is to provide physicians prepared to serve diverse populations. Describe one or more experiences you have had with people of different racial, ethnic, or socioeconomic backgrounds or belief systems than your own, and what impact this had on you.
(600 words or less)


Is anyone else a little stumped about a) why the second one is being asked and b) how to answer?

Correct me if I am wrong, but I'm guessing by your questions you are trying to find the angle adcoms are coming from in asking question #2 and an idea of what they are looking for in a response. This is just my opinion, but adcoms can smell BS a mile away, so answering these secondary questions and eventually interview questions according to what you truly believe will yield much better results than some attempt to psychoanalyze and regurgitate what you think adcoms want to hear.

Whoops, my bad, weezy, I accidentally copied the wrong prompt (the third one I listed is the wording from last year)

It's all good. Just wanted to make sure :)

Correct me if I am wrong, but I'm guessing by your questions you are trying to find the angle adcoms are coming from in asking question #2 and an idea of what they are looking for in a response. This is just my opinion, but adcoms can smell BS a mile away, so answering these secondary questions and eventually interview questions according to what you truly believe will yield much better results than some attempt to psychoanalyze and regurgitate what you think adcoms want to hear.

You're absolutely right. After thinking about it a lot this morning, my biggest problem is more so the open-ended-ness of the question. But oh well, writing away...

You're absolutely right. After thinking about it a lot this morning, my biggest problem is more so the open-ended-ness of the question. But oh well, writing away...

Yeah I feel you. It is pretty open-ended.

Sooo somehow I missed that a semester of Anatomy was required for OSU :bang:

Guess I will not be filling out that secondary.

Best of luck everyone!

Sooo somehow I missed that a semester of Anatomy was required for OSU :bang:

Guess I will not be filling out that secondary.

Best of luck everyone!

Yeah I'm pretty sure this is the first matriculating class where they require anatomy.

Sooo somehow I missed that a semester of Anatomy was required for OSU :bang:

Guess I will not be filling out that secondary.

Best of luck everyone!

Don't despair! This is a new requirement and they are totally open to letting you take it in the spring or summer beforehand, from what I have heard/been told.

Articulate your understanding of social justice versus advocacy for social justice.(600 words or less)


How are you guys interpreting this question? Are they asking what we think the difference between "social justice" and "advocacy for social justice" is? Or are they asking us what our understanding of social justice is and why we advocate it? lol...

Yeah I'm pretty sure this is the first matriculating class where they require anatomy.

Don't despair! This is a new requirement and they are totally open to letting you take it in the spring or summer beforehand, from what I have heard/been told.

The class of 2016 had a prereq. of anatomy before matriculation, I am pretty sure.

You can take it anytime before class starts and do not need to have it done before submitting secondaries/interviewing/getting accepted.

Last year they allowed people to take it on-line through WVU. They're pretty flexible about it, don't stress.

The class of 2016 had a prereq. of anatomy before matriculation, I am pretty sure.

You can take it anytime before class starts and do not need to have it done before submitting secondaries/interviewing/getting accepted.

Last year they allowed people to take it on-line through WVU. They're pretty flexible about it, don't stress.

This is news to me as well. Do we have to show we're planning on taking it when we send in secondaries? Or it just needs to be done prior to matriculation.

This is news to me as well. Do we have to show we're planning on taking it when we send in secondaries? Or it just needs to be done prior to matriculation.

Just know it's a prereq. I don't think you have to prove anything but it must be done by orientation.

Hmmm... This could become a very sticky situation.

I mean, I would only take the course if accepted because I do not want to spend $500 or w/e it is for a community college or online cause, as I already graduated, just in hopes of matriculating here. But think about if you were accepted off the alternate list after the last summer anatomy class began. I guess if you were waitlisted you would have to take the course in the summer just in case - given you have no other acceptances or would prefer to matriculate to OSU over any other acceptances.

Interesting

Hmmm... This could become a very sticky situation.

I mean, I would only take the course if accepted because I do not want to spend $500 or w/e it is for a community college or online cause, as I already graduated, just in hopes of matriculating here. But think about if you were accepted off the alternate list after the last summer anatomy class began. I guess if you were waitlisted you would have to take the course in the summer just in case - given you have no other acceptances or would prefer to matriculate to OSU over any other acceptances.

Interesting

That's a problem for future-me to care about me thinks.

That's a problem for future-me to care about me thinks.

:thumbup:

Hmmm... This could become a very sticky situation.

I mean, I would only take the course if accepted because I do not want to spend $500 or w/e it is for a community college or online cause, as I already graduated, just in hopes of matriculating here. But think about if you were accepted off the alternate list after the last summer anatomy class began. I guess if you were waitlisted you would have to take the course in the summer just in case - given you have no other acceptances or would prefer to matriculate to OSU over any other acceptances.

Interesting

Something to also consider is the face that, if I'm not mistaken, MSU starts classes in June. So if you are in school all year, just know that you will not be able to take anatomy the summer before matriculating.

Something to also consider is the face that, if I'm not mistaken, MSU starts classes in June. So if you are in school all year, just know that you will not be able to take anatomy the summer before matriculating.

IDK what MSU is (at least in this context), but if you meant OSU, OSU starts in August so you could definitely take the online WVU anatomy course that starts in May and ends in July before matriculating.

after reading the essays. not fair. its obvious by your moniker that you have an inherent advantage.
the adcoms do not judge you by your monikor's at SDN !! They need something more than that which we all know !!

Something to also consider is the face that, if I'm not mistaken, MSU starts classes in June. So if you are in school all year, just know that you will not be able to take anatomy the summer before matriculating.

Huh? OSU starts in the beginning of August. Are you confusing class threads?

Did anyone else get locked out of the secondary again?

yes. i cant get in now

Ugh, I was all ready to submit! No one is in the admissions office anymore though, might have to wait until tomorrow :(

Has anyone gotten the following message after logging in? I was able to log in this morning and see the secondary, but now this all I get and I cannot figure out how to navigate to the secondary. Any advice besides calling them tomorrow?

Navigation Collection not found

The Navigation Collection you have specified cannot be found. There are two possible causes for this error: 1) the Navigation Collection specified is invalid or no longer exist, or 2) you do not have access to this Navigation Collection. Contact your portal administrator.

Has anyone gotten the following message after logging in? I was able to log in this morning and see the secondary, but now this all I get and I cannot figure out how to navigate to the secondary. Any advice besides calling them tomorrow?

That is the same situation I am in as well.

This sucks, I am getting the same navigation collection error, and I too was able to log in this morning.
OSU's application system seems the most bloated, archaic, and ill designed of any school I have applied to thus far

Wowww I knew I was in the OSU thread but I just received MSU's secondary before making that post, so MSU was on my mind. My bad people.


I got locked out of OSU's app too. I submitted it and it said the payment did not go through, yet it definitely showed up as a pending charge on my credit card. Then I tried to log back in and was locked out.

the adcoms do not judge you by your monikor's at SDN !! They need something more than that which we all know !!

They sure as heck do judge by your moniker. and that is all that matters.

argh I wonder if my systems physiology course (which is a combined anatomy and physio course) will satisfy their anatomy req, guess I'll have to ask them..

This sucks, I am getting the same navigation collection error, and I too was able to log in this morning.
OSU's application system seems the most bloated, archaic, and ill designed of any school I have applied to thus far
Yeah same here accessed it earlier and everything also I tried accessing it through the status check page and it was a whole different application

are you supposed to get an "application complete email" or something similar? I submitted this morning and paid, but never got any confirmation.

Im kind of stumped as to why the second question is being asked as well. Thanks for posting the Essays! Im still getting the "Navigation Collection not found" message. I think I will try to call them in the morning.

This is so weird...I have the same secondary questions as last year....and it's saying "No terms are currently available" on the first page....help?

Wait, they require anatomy as a prereq? Fuddddddddggggggeeeeeeeeeeeeee I just wasted my damn money applying here....

Wait, they require anatomy as a prereq? Fuddddddddggggggeeeeeeeeeeeeee I just wasted my damn money applying here....
You can take an online course and it will count
You can take it in the summer as well

this secondary is annoying the crap out of me. I really do not like the changes they made from last year.

this secondary is annoying the crap out of me. I really do not like the changes they made from last year.

at least you can access it, i dont know what I'm doing wrong :mad:

Uh how do I access the secondary once I have my activation code and am logged in to my.osu? This is super confusing.

Uh how do I access the secondary once I have my activation code and am logged in to my.osu? This is super confusing.

They send you an email with the link. Just wait for it

So after I clicked submit, I paid with credit card...then it just took me right back to my secondary.

Without any sign of confirmation and still being able to edit my secondary, I'm curious if it "submitted" or not. I see the pending charge on my CC statement, but that's about it for my evidence.

Anyone else have same experience?

i got the email with the secondary but never got an email with my username so i dont know how to set up my account.. how did you guys set up your username??

So after I clicked submit, I paid with credit card...then it just took me right back to my secondary.

Without any sign of confirmation and still being able to edit my secondary, I'm curious if it "submitted" or not. I see the pending charge on my CC statement, but that's about it for my evidence.

Anyone else have same experience?

I had the same thing happen to me except it even said my payment was not successful even though I had a pending charge. I called and made sure. My application was uploaded just fine.

Wow you guys are quick essay writers. This will probably take me the greater part of the weekend to write these :(

I had the same thing happen to me except it even said my payment was not successful even though I had a pending charge. I called and made sure. My application was uploaded just fine.

Thanks weezy.
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Wow you guys are quick essay writers. This will probably take me the greater part of the weekend to write these :(

Ha, yea, that social justice one was def a change-up in my writing flow.

Describe one or more experiences where you collaborated or worked as part of a team with people of different racial, ethnic and/or socioeconomic backgrounds and/or belief systems than your own. What impact did this experience(s) have on you? (600 words or less)


What the hell do I do if it didn't impact me? They were normal people just like everyone else, we worked together, got our **** done, and moved on with out lives.

Wow you guys are quick essay writers. This will probably take me the greater part of the weekend to write these :(

Me too. Have already been mulling over them for a few days to no avail. I've written many secondaries so far, and these questions have been the hardest for me to explain.

Thanks weezy.
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I hate that picture. I told that fool to take the picture from my good side. Didn't even have my eyebrows waxed either.

Wow you guys are quick essay writers. This will probably take me the greater part of the weekend to write these :(

Pre-writing them all has saved me so much time.

i got the email with the secondary but never got an email with my username so i dont know how to set up my account.. how did you guys set up your username??

Yeah, I'm in the same situation. I get to the "Activation Code Request" screen, but I don't have the username.

Was anybody able to submit the Secondary Application ?

I *think* I did today lol. Payment submitted, no e-mail confirmation though.

I submitted and did not get any email confirmation, however I was reassured by the fact that I could view, but no longer edit any of my answers/info - I took this to mean that it was submitted

Oh Ok. I think now I am being the shown the secondary application without any means of editing which mean it is submitted. Good luck guys !!

What browser are you guys using?

My secondary is still editable in chrome (couple days post-payment)...:mad:

Also non-editable; using safari. Do you see the payment in your account transactions? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this is one of the schools that required submission before payment.

What the hell do I do if it didn't impact me? They were normal people just like everyone else, we worked together, got our **** done, and moved on with out lives.

my thoughts exactly. I mean, I've worked with different ethnicities, but it's never been an impediment...

my thoughts exactly. I mean, I've worked with different ethnicities, but it's never been an impediment...

It doesn't have to be an impediment. It could have impacted you in a positive way.

Also non-editable; using safari. Do you see the payment in your account transactions? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this is one of the schools that required submission before payment.

Yeah there is no submit button after paying or anything. You just pay and it's complete.

It doesn't have to be an impediment. It could have impacted you in a positive way.

I mean that there was no impediment that would be an agent for change, either positively or negatively. Working with different ethnicities felt exactly like working with anyone else, in my experience. Maybe I didn't work with many very cultural people. In order for working with other cultures to influence me, it must feel different from working with common cultures.

I mean that there was no impediment that would be an agent for change, either positively or negatively. Working with different ethnicities felt exactly like working with anyone else, in my experience. Maybe I didn't work with many very cultural people. In order for working with other cultures to influence me, it must feel different from working with common cultures.

My thoughts exactly. It didnt matter to me that they were of a different culture, they were normal, american kids like everyone else :/ . It was no different than working with anyone else. Positive or negative.

I mean that there was no impediment that would be an agent for change, either positively or negatively. Working with different ethnicities felt exactly like working with anyone else, in my experience. Maybe I didn't work with many very cultural people. In order for working with other cultures to influence me, it must feel different from working with common cultures.

Gotcha

My thoughts exactly. It didnt matter to me that they were of a different culture, they were normal, american kids like everyone else :/ . It was no different than working with anyone else. Positive or negative.

How about someone NOT American...? Think of your experiences. It's really not too tough of a question. Show that you're diverse and have worked with a diverse group of people.

How about someone NOT American...? Think of your experiences. It's really not too tough of a question. Show that you're diverse and have worked with a diverse group of people.

Well, my school is very diverse and we have a lot of international students and what not, but I didn't notice anything different when working with them lol. When I said "like normal americans" I meant even though they were from different cultures etc, they didn't act any different from a typical Caucasian american person. Maybe I'm just culturally oblivious >_> I'll figure something out.

Well, my school is very diverse and we have a lot of international students and what not, but I didn't notice anything different when working with them lol. When I said "like normal americans" I meant even though they were from different cultures etc, they didn't act any different from a typical Caucasian american person. Maybe I'm just culturally oblivious >_> I'll figure something out.

The only cultural experiences you have are related to other students in your school?

How about populations that you share hardly anything in common with? Maybe tutoring kids in poor neighborhoods or working with migrant latino workers? I mean, if you go work in a predominantly african american neighborhood in a lower socioeconomic part of town you'll see more than a majority of families that consist of mainly grandparents or even just single moms working two or more jobs with no father figures, in which kids are dependent on state services. You can bet their value systems concerning education and health are far different from your average indian, asian, or caucasian family made of your prototypical two parents and two kids in a nice little suburb. You're going to have to relate to ALL of these people in the clinic. You need to somehow show adcoms you can do that successfully.

Columbus itself is an extremely diverse city, especially for the midwest. Some of OSU's care point clinics are in upscale, pretty much rich caucasian only neighborhoods (like in Dublin, Hilliard, etc.) Some clinics are in predominantly african american (like OSU east clinics). Some are in rural Ohio (like the Marysville clinics). You will see extremely diverse cultures in all of those areas, different value systems for the worth or health care, religion, education, diets, etc. You can't brush aside cultural differences, it is going to have a huge impact on patient care.

Yeah there is no submit button after paying or anything. You just pay and it's complete.

I submitted earlier and my application status still says "Incomplete." I paid the $80, clicked submit, and got taken back to the app. Anyone still have this that has submitted??

I think it takes a few days for the info to update on the status page. Mine is the same

I think it takes a few days for the info to update on the status page. Mine is the same

Got it. Would be nice if they gave some indication like "application submitted...reviewing for completion"

The fact that they changed the wording of last year's question #3 from "describe any experiences..." to "describe experiences where you collaborated or worked as part of a team..." is interesting. Does this mean that working at a welfare office and teaching kids from poor neighborhoods doesn't count? Because stuff like that isn't really teamwork or collaboration. I'm confused as to how to answer this otherwise.

I honestly don't know how much can possibly be said about social justice vs its advocacy. Define each, compare, examples of each, conclude. 100 words. Am I missing something major here?

I honestly don't know how much can possibly be said about social justice vs its advocacy. Define each, compare, examples of each, conclude. 100 words. Am I missing something major here?

I don't really think so...

I honestly don't know how much can possibly be said about social justice vs its advocacy. Define each, compare, examples of each, conclude. 100 words. Am I missing something major here?

I agree... dumb, simple question. But I think they are looking for more than 100 words.

I agree... dumb, simple question. But I think they are looking for more than 100 words.

I usually subscribe to the idea that the more unnecessary stuff adcoms read on your file the less attentive they become. That being said, it does seem lacking to have 100 words on a 600 max prompt. How would you expand on it beyond the things I said without repeating and going into information the prompt doesn't ask for?

I honestly don't know how much can possibly be said about social justice vs its advocacy. Define each, compare, examples of each, conclude. 100 words. Am I missing something major here?

I would argue that you don't know much about the topic of social justice then. Not to sound mean or anything!

I would argue that you don't know much about the topic of social justice then. Not to sound mean or anything!

No you don't sound mean, but I don't agree with you. Social justice isn't a hard topic to grasp and I've had plenty of real life experience with it, and it's constantly being brought up in politics. I just don't see the prompt asking me to go in depth and analyze it like a philosophical paper would. I chose to keep it neat and simple rather than keep writing without necessity to add extra words.

Either way, I submitted so godspeed to us all. :luck:

I have a question.

As it turns out, with regards to the who have you worked with question, I accidentally copy pasted the response from last year's question(" Describe one or more experiences you have had with people of different racial, ethnic, or socioeconomic backgrounds or belief systems than your own, and what impact this had on you. " Is it worth asking the admissions office if I can rectify this or should I just let it roll?

I have a question.

As it turns out, with regards to the who have you worked with question, I accidentally copy pasted the response from last year's question(" Describe one or more experiences you have had with people of different racial, ethnic, or socioeconomic backgrounds or belief systems than your own, and what impact this had on you. " Is it worth asking the admissions office if I can rectify this or should I just let it roll?

i did the same thing and didn't notice until uofp complained about it. please share if you call and what they say.

I have a question.

As it turns out, with regards to the who have you worked with question, I accidentally copy pasted the response from last year's question(" Describe one or more experiences you have had with people of different racial, ethnic, or socioeconomic backgrounds or belief systems than your own, and what impact this had on you. " Is it worth asking the admissions office if I can rectify this or should I just let it roll?

I did the same thing haha. OSU isn't high on my list, and I wasn't expecting to write about social justice, so I was lazy and just went with the response I wrote ahead of time for that question.

i did the same thing and didn't notice until uofp complained about it. please share if you call and what they say.

uofp?

uofp?

the sdn member, uofp57, not a school.

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I have a question.

As it turns out, with regards to the who have you worked with question, I accidentally copy pasted the response from last year's question(" Describe one or more experiences you have had with people of different racial, ethnic, or socioeconomic backgrounds or belief systems than your own, and what impact this had on you. " Is it worth asking the admissions office if I can rectify this or should I just let it roll?
I mean, if you didn't get in last year, I think re-writing your essays for every university and having somebody look over them would probably be the best approach. But if your essay from last year was good, I wouldn't worry about it.

I mean, if you didn't get in last year, I think re-writing your essays for every university and having somebody look over them would probably be the best approach. But if your essay from last year was good, I wouldn't worry about it.

I actually didn't apply last year so I don't know if I would have gotten in. My essay is good, no doubt, but it doesn't answer the question as "head-on" as I'd like for it to.

I appreciate your input and am sure you have good intentions, but giving this info to a bunch of pre-meds who will say whatever an adcom wants to hear, thus not giving a genuine response, is not a good thing. As we speak, plenty of people are changing their answers to say exactly what you just told them. Do you really think someone is going to leave their genuine answer the same if it doesn't align with the information you just provided? There are so many factors going into this admissions process, so for those of us who already wrote and submitted genuine essays that reflect what you said, how do we stand out from those who will just BS it now that you have given the answer? You are an adult, it is your post, and I cant tell you what to do with it, but I think you should erase it for the sake of being fair in one aspect of admissions that is fair (expressing our genuine feeling on a prompt) and for the sake of your school which I am sure would like to admit people who genuinely fit in that group of social justice advocates, not just people who regurgitate the correct answer despite being everything but a social justice advocate.

I appreciate your input and am sure you have good intentions, but giving this info to a bunch of pre-meds who will say whatever an adcom wants to hear, thus not giving a genuine response, is not a good thing. As we speak, plenty of people are changing their answers to say exactly what you just told them. Do you really think someone is going to leave their genuine answer the same if it doesn't align with the information you just provided?

I agree with this 100%, plus it's not fair to have this kind of unfair, 'insider' insight for those who have already submitted or are not aware of SDN

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Weezy, I talked to them exactly about that before I wrote any of this out. I had specifically asked them in the first place to give me a explanation that they were fine with giving out on the internet. They thought that this would be more obvious to applying undergrads than it ended up coming across as. But, you raise a good point. I'll take the post down for now, and I'll re-post if people are still confused in three weeks. Thanks for telling me.

Well it's all good now. I just realized by quoting you, I immortalized your post.

Well it's all good now. I just realized by quoting you, I immortalized your post.

Can't you re-edit your own? Still new to this.

I appreciate your input and am sure you have good intentions, but giving this info to a bunch of pre-meds who will say whatever an adcom wants to hear, thus not giving a genuine response, is not a good thing. As we speak, plenty of people are changing their answers to say exactly what you just told them. Do you really think someone is going to leave their genuine answer the same if it doesn't align with the information you just provided? There are so many factors going into this admissions process, so for those of us who already wrote and submitted genuine essays that reflect what you said, how do we stand out from those who will just BS it now that you have given the answer? You are an adult, it is your post, and I cant tell you what to do with it, but I think you should erase it for the sake of being fair in one aspect of admissions that is fair (expressing our genuine feeling on a prompt) and for the sake of your school which I am sure would like to admit people who genuinely fit in that group of social justice advocates, not just people who regurgitate the correct answer despite being everything but a social justice advocate.

+1

Also, Weezy, you might want to delete your post that quotes it...

Can't you re-edit your own? Still new to this.

Ok I figured it out. Thanks. I hope I didn't come off as harsh. I do understand that you had good intentions.

Weezy, I talked to them exactly about that before I wrote any of this out. I had specifically asked them in the first place to give me a explanation that they were fine with giving out on the internet. They thought that this would be more obvious to applying undergrads than it ended up coming across as. But, you raise a good point. I'll take the post down for now, and I'll re-post if people are still confused in three weeks. Thanks for telling me.

Having read your initial message from the adcom, I'm just going to say that flat out, the way the prompt was written did not point me as an applicant in the right direction. I read it over and over, and had a lot of my friends, including some philosophy majors, and no one came to the conclusion of what the adcom is looking for. It read it as, "what is the CONCEPT of social justice", versus what I guess they intended which was what are real world implications. I think it would have been a great secondary prompt if it was written more clearly and I would have had a great time writing it!

Oh well, life goes on.

edit: I also wanted to thank you for taking the time to look into it for us in the first place.

/endrant

Ok I figured it out. Thanks. I hope I didn't come off as harsh. I do understand that you had good intentions.
Nope, I totally understand. This process is hard enough already. The offer to help still stands if you guys have any questions about Columbus or Ohio State. Good luck, everybody!

I am actually curious to know the content of your post, Bender Offender. For those of us that have already submitted our secondaries, it would be a nice piece of mind to know whether we responded to our essays correctly -- especially if your post was approved by the school. Please PM me if you feel comfortable sharing it.

Also, if anyone is incapable of a genuine essay, it is really an irrelevant concern since it'll come out in their interview anyways, if they get that far.

Interview invites came out last year starting 7/18...hmm...you think they're that far this year?

Interview invites came out last year starting 7/18...hmm...you think they're that far this year?

No.

AMCAS was sent out last year ~2 weeks earlier than it was this year.

I bet it will be closer to end of July.

I am actually curious to know the content of your post, Bender Offender. For those of us that have already submitted our secondaries, it would be a nice piece of mind to know whether we responded to our essays correctly -- especially if your post was approved by the school. Please PM me if you feel comfortable sharing it.

Also, if anyone is incapable of a genuine essay, it is really an irrelevant concern since it'll come out in their interview anyways, if they get that far.

Maybe if you beg more he'll do it lol

so, if you submitted, what benefit would it be to you? it's a moot point now. Also, his post (most importantly) was not school approved.

Side note: FIRST ON PAGE 4!

I would like to know what this said as well. SDN is full of insider information that is one reason why people go on it, especially for confusing questions like this. Could someone at least summarize in general what this question is supposed to mean? One person earlier said they were looking for real world applicability instead of just the concept? what does this mean...

I thought he said it was school approved? Maybe I imagined that. And I can provide proof of my submission if he needs it lol, but its not THAT big a deal to me. I have no idea how the information would benefit me since I didn't see what it was all pertaining to. If anything, though, a better understanding of the social justice prompt would allow me to know whether an ADCOM is going to read mine with approval or head-scratching.

pretty ridiculous that one of the few posts that will help applicants was demanded to be removed. a guy talked to admissions about why they asked a certain question on the secondary....why in the world would we NOT be sharing that on sdn?

haha nevermind, I found it. google catche, it is rather informative, pm if you want it

haha nevermind, I found it. google catche, it is rather informative, pm if you want it

just post it. i read it earlier and have already submitted my application. whoever demanded it be taken down because it's "unfair" is infringing upon our first amendment rights. i will start a petition and fight this to the death. my grandma already said she'd sign, and my brother will too if i buy him a big mac -- at first he wanted a whole meal, but i talked him down. i'm smooth like that.

pretty ridiculous that one of the few posts that will help applicants was demanded to be removed. a guy talked to admissions about why they asked a certain question on the secondary....why in the world would we NOT be sharing that on sdn?

There are certain aspects of this process that give advantages we cannot control such as knowing an adcom, being a legacy, URM status, etc. I dont see the problem with people speculating about the essay and helping each other, but do you really think it is fair that everyone would change their essay to the correct answer? There are people who already submitted and people not on SDN who do not have that luxury. It would be one thing if the student gave us guidance on how to approach the question or a better understanding of the prompt, but it was not that. It was THE answer...the exact answer adcoms are looking for. If you don't see the problem with this then I can't help you. I told the student he/she can do whatever he/she want with the post since he/she is grown and then it was taken down...not my decision, but the right one nonetheless.

I thought he said it was school approved? Maybe I imagined that. And I can provide proof of my submission if he needs it lol, but its not THAT big a deal to me. I have no idea how the information would benefit me since I didn't see what it was all pertaining to. If anything, though, a better understanding of the social justice prompt would allow me to know whether an ADCOM is going to read mine with approval or head-scratching.

I agree that if you already submitted it's fine. Just like me, it was reassuring to know my values align with what they are looking for in a student. But for the others who dont see the issue, there is a difference between your values aligning with the school's desires in an applicant and regurgitating BS because you know the answer even though it does not reflect who you truly are. I am not saying this is you, because you may be exactly what they are looking for, but there are plenty of other people out there who do not connect with those values but will say they do.

There are certain aspects of this process that give advantages we cannot control such as knowing an adcom, being a legacy, URM status, etc. I dont see the problem with people speculating about the essay and helping each other, but do you really think it is fair that everyone would change their essay to the correct answer? There are people who already submitted and people not on SDN who do not have that luxury. It would be one thing if the student gave us guidance on how to approach the question or a better understanding of the prompt, but it was not that. It was THE answer...the exact answer adcoms are looking for. If you don't see the problem with this then I can't help you. I told the student he/she can do whatever he/she want with the post since he/she is grown and then it was taken down...not my decision, but the right one nonetheless.

no, he did not give THE answer. THE answer comes from personal experiences proving your understanding of other cultures/struggles. he gave us guidance on how to answer -- show you have an awareness that not everyone lives like you. it wasn't anything profound.

you said it was reassuring for you to "know" you'd answered it correctly, but you don't think others deserve the same. stop acting so noble.

This is seriously just sad (and petty).

What Bender Offender said was nothing new or profound, nor "the answer." It was literally what every person applying to medical school should know and if you can't glean what Bender Offender said from the question then I have no idea how you passed verbal reasoning on the MCAT. (dead serious)

The bottom line is to talk about your experiences as the adcoms could probably care less if you could write a philosophy paper on the differences, they want to see that you personally understand social justice, have some experience with it, and that you have advocated for it.

K guys, lets move on now :rolleyes:

no, he did not give THE answer. THE answer comes from personal experiences proving your understanding of other cultures/struggles. he gave us guidance on how to answer -- show you have an awareness that not everyone lives like you. it wasn't anything profound.

you said it was reassuring for you to "know" you'd answered it correctly, but you don't think others deserve the same. stop acting so noble.

Haha i'm not acting noble. There is a difference between feeling reassurance after submission and getting the answer before submission. I already submitted last week. It's like asking your professor the answer to a question after an exam and you realize you got it correct so it is reassuring vs. asking the professor for the answer during the test and using that information to mark the correct answer/changing your incorrect answer to the correct one. You say it's not THE answer and that someone has to have personal experiences to back it up. We're talking about neurotic pre-meds trying to get into a difficult field and would do just about anything to get into ANY school. Do you really think a lack of experience is going to keep someone from crafting an essay that displays that they do have this experience? Are they just going to withdraw their application because they don't have the experience to answer the question? Come on, let's be real. Anyways, its over, if people see it they do, if they don't they don't. I won't be discussing it any further and we can agree to disagree. Good luck.

gunners gonna gun

gunners gonna gun

+1

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Invited for interview.

Invited for interview.

awesome! congrats! when did you turn in your secondary?

Invited for interview.

And your stats, if you wouldn't mind (or a range if you're more comfortable with that)

Thanks to both of you^

I submitted my secondary yesterday morning. Because of the quick turnaround, I am not sure if they even read it yet. (I'll let everyone else debate this, haha). It may be that my strong primary/stats (4.0/40) ensured me an interview.

I used to live in Ohio for a short time but am an OOS applicant. Good luck to everyone!

Interview invite!

OOS, but used to live in Ohio
Secondary in - 7/13
Stats - 3.7/34

Congrats guys!

congrats to you guys! how did you find out?

Thanks- I got an email saying I had a status change, and to log onto the webpage. The first thing I thought after seeing this- Did I get rejected already?

Thanks to both of you^

I submitted my secondary yesterday morning. Because of the quick turnaround, I am not sure if they even read it yet. (I'll let everyone else debate this, haha). It may be that my strong primary/stats (4.0/40) ensured me an interview.

I used to live in Ohio for a short time but am an OOS applicant. Good luck to everyone!

Knowing that I have to compete with people like you makes me lose all hope lmao. Congrats on the interview invite dude, you definitely deserve it!

Interview invite for sept 10. Submitted secondary 7/13.

My status page right now says "AMCAS Application Received". Is this what you have before you get an II? Or do you need to move to a "complete" stage? Thx guys.

The only cultural experiences you have are related to other students in your school?

How about populations that you share hardly anything in common with? Maybe tutoring kids in poor neighborhoods or working with migrant latino workers? I mean, if you go work in a predominantly african american neighborhood in a lower socioeconomic part of town you'll see more than a majority of families that consist of mainly grandparents or even just single moms working two or more jobs with no father figures, in which kids are dependent on state services. You can bet their value systems concerning education and health are far different from your average indian, asian, or caucasian family made of your prototypical two parents and two kids in a nice little suburb. You're going to have to relate to ALL of these people in the clinic. You need to somehow show adcoms you can do that successfully.

I think this is a valid argument based on last year's prompts, but this year specifically asks for collaboration/teamwork. I did not interpret that as doing things FOR people who are different than you (teaching, volunteering, etc). It sounds like they want to see how well you work on a diverse team.

Having read your initial message from the adcom, I'm just going to say that flat out, the way the prompt was written did not point me as an applicant in the right direction. I read it over and over, and had a lot of my friends, including some philosophy majors, and no one came to the conclusion of what the adcom is looking for. It read it as, "what is the CONCEPT of social justice", versus what I guess they intended which was what are real world implications. I think it would have been a great secondary prompt if it was written more clearly and I would have had a great time writing it!

THE answer comes from personal experiences proving your understanding of other cultures/struggles. he gave us guidance on how to answer -- show you have an awareness that not everyone lives like you. it wasn't anything profound.



The bottom line is to talk about your experiences as the adcoms could probably care less if you could write a philosophy paper on the differences, they want to see that you personally understand social justice, have some experience with it, and that you have advocated for it.


Huh. I didn't see the post, but I can garner from these that I did not remotely answer it correctly. That does not mean I cannot answer the question or that I don't have experience in that department. I also had others read it, and no one (myself included) could figure out the gist. I went out on a limb and discussed advocacy and what my future plans are on that front. Disappointing to find out they are looking for something unstated. I submitted it quite unclear on that front.

Just got this email...

The current secondary application to the Ohio State University College of Medicine contains a question about social justice that was unfortunately worded in a way that is confusing. This was a proofreading error on our part. We will be updating the application for this cycle, and this question will not appear on the newer secondary application.

If you have already submitted your secondary application and answered this question, do not worry. This question will not be evaluated. We apologize sincerely for the inconvenience.

edit: Post above said same thing.

I didn't get the email for some reason (though I have the secondary).

I didn't get the email for some reason (though I have the secondary).

I'm sure they're batch-emailing so they don't blow up their email server (or get mistaken for a spammer)

Pretty crazy news... I don't imagine questions get disregarded like this often.

Too bad, I wrote a really good philosophical essay too (i.e. the wrong way to answer). :D

Ughhhhhhhh I just spent a pretty long time writing that essay. Was pretty happy with it too. Oh well.

Wow, I wonder how many times an essay question is thrown out? Honestly, I'm really glad it was though. I had no idea where to start and was thinking of not completing the secondary. Sorry to anyone who spent time thinking of a good answer:(

Hey is anyone having any problems logging into the secondary?? I get this error message:

"Navigation Collection not found

The Navigation Collection you have specified cannot be found. There are two possible causes for this error: 1) the Navigation Collection specified is invalid or no longer exist, or 2) you do not have access to this Navigation Collection. Contact your portal administrator."

Hey is anyone having any problems logging into the secondary?? I get this error message:

"Navigation Collection not found

The Navigation Collection you have specified cannot be found. There are two possible causes for this error: 1) the Navigation Collection specified is invalid or no longer exist, or 2) you do not have access to this Navigation Collection. Contact your portal administrator."

Yes. Almost certain that it has to do with the fact that they're reconfiguring their website to take out the one essay question.

About how long were everyone's essays? Right now mine are about 300-350.

lmao I'm so glad I put off doing this secondary :) I was dreading that social justice question but now I feel slightly more comfortable with this secondary. yay

lmao I'm so glad I put off doing this secondary :) I was dreading that social justice question but now I feel slightly more comfortable with this secondary. yay

:thumbup:

I feel the same way.

Interesting, well as it's no longer an issue, here's the answer that people were trying to keep from sdn.

From the bender guy:

I'm entering Ohio State as a Med 1 this August. I was intrigued by this question (as it wasn't a question for us last year), so I went and talked to the admissions committee people about why they choose it and what the purpose of the question was.

Basically, there are a few applicants (you would be surprised) that don't really understand the problems of the world beyond their daily issues. They don't know about starvation, epidemics, or water shortages, let alone relatively 'minor' inconveniences such as poverty, lack of living space, and lack of education. There's another category of people that understand that these problems exist, yet refuse to acknowledge that it's their responsibility and duty to do something about it. After that, there's a group of individuals that understand these problems and understand that something must be done about them, but haven't yet done anything themselves. Lastly, there's a few people out there that may or may not have actually faced this issues themselves, but definitely have a in-depth understanding of the afflictions of poverty and the social injustice associated with having been born into a much poorer situation than the people (such as us) that live life in great comfort in developed countries. This last group has also done something, anything, to shift the balance, from sending food packages to other countries to volunteering their time to help create a better living situation for impoverished people, and so on.

You need to show that you're in the last group. You need to be able to articulate the fact that you understand that life isn't the same for a whole lot (and I mean a WHOLE lot) of other people in this world, and, more importantly, that you, in your condition as spoiled residents of the world's richest country (that's what we are) have done something about it. Because face it, even an incredibly busy undergraduate (which is what I assume most of you are applying from) still means that you have much more free time than the average medical student or resident; and, if you haven't done anything to show that you're committed to helping other people in your free time as an undergrad, you're not going to be able to suddenly start when you're much busier with other things in your life.

Hope this helps, and best of luck to all of you. Let me know if you have any other questions, and I'm sure you'll all make fantastic physicians one day!

This seems like an incredibly silly question, but where are the secondary questions located?! I don't know if my secondary website isn't working or something, but I can't find the questions.

I logged into the buckeyelink website, clicked "Medicine" in the supplemental applications section and see a welcome message, but don't see an actual app anywhere.

Hmmm... My secondary still has the social justice question :confused:

Hmmm... My secondary still has the social justice question :confused:

They just want you to suffer

Hmmm... My secondary still has the social justice question :confused:

I still see it too. I'm still going to fill it out and submit it, I have a few things to say about the topic...

I had already spent quite a bit of time writing that beastly essay before the controversy so I went ahead and submitted it with the essay too.

Gahhhhh

I still haven't gotten the email, and my secondary still has the question. It's pretty crazy that they made a big decision like this yet continue to let people work on it (those who haven't seen this thread). Have others gotten that email?

No email here

Does anyone not have the social justice question in their secondary?

damn it loll I still have that social justice question too :/

did not receive email and still have social justice question as well

did not receive email and still have social justice question as well

Same here. I think we've been trolled.

Same here. I think we've been trolled.

I was thinking the exact same thing, but two people posted about it at the exact same time yesterday. Seems strange that two "reputable" members of SDN would troll us on this.

Anyone want to volunteer to call the admissions office on Monday?

Anyone want to volunteer to call the admissions office on Monday?

*touches nose*

lol

I was thinking the exact same thing, but two people posted about it at the exact same time yesterday. Seems strange that two "reputable" members of SDN would troll us on this.

Anyone want to volunteer to call the admissions office on Monday?

fo sho my son. I'll call bright and early.

Same here. I think we've been trolled.

I can pm anyone who wants a link to the email I got. Or post it up whatever. I'd be the gunneriest gunner in the world if I pulled that off.

I can pm anyone who wants a link to the email I got. Or post it up whatever. I'd be the gunneriest gunner in the world if I pulled that off.

he showed me a screenshot of the email, it was legit.

Yeah, I did not mean to be rude or anything, I'm just curious as to what's going on because I do not want to submit a secondary with a blank essay. I'm sure that would be an auto rejection lol

I can pm anyone who wants a link to the email I got. Or post it up whatever. I'd be the gunneriest gunner in the world if I pulled that off.

I was just joking. Not actually accusing anyone of anything. It would be pretty funny though, with all the adcoms wondering why everyone just stopped answering a question.

Well I guess I'll be waiting to submit my app until Monday.

I was just joking. Not actually accusing anyone of anything. It would be pretty funny though, with all the adcoms wondering why everyone just stopped answering a question.

Seriously. All the 4.0/40 students, typical SDN users, don't answer it. They would be like :wtf:

OSU would have its lowest, stats wise, matriculating class in years :laugh:

All in good fun. Muhahaha...

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rofl. They did not "proof-read" the question correctly? How hard is it to write a one sentence essay question clearly? Did they seriously have no one look it over?

Ridiculous...

rofl. They did not "proof-read" the question correctly? How hard is it to write a one sentence essay question clearly? Did they seriously have no one look it over?

Ridiculous...

that was probably their go-to answer for "this question is dumb"

that was probably their go-to answer for "this question is dumb"

It would have been a great question if it was just worded as, "What is your understanding of social justice, and what are some of its real world implications? How does the advocacy for social justice fit in this picture?"

They way it was set up seemed like it was worded as social justice vs advocacy.

Are there still folks out there who haven't received the e-mail saying they're altering the secondary?

Are there still folks out there who haven't received the e-mail saying they're altering the secondary?

me

Are there still folks out there who haven't received the e-mail saying they're altering the secondary?

I never got an email about it

I never got an email about it

that's too bad people who haven't completed the secondary may not have received it. i DID receive the e-mail (just to add legitimacy to that fact that it is not a hoax), but i had already submitted.

i DID receive the e-mail (just to add legitimacy to that fact that it is not a hoax), but i had already submitted.

Same here. I read it to mean secondaries that hadn't gone out yet wouldn't have the new question...which of course doesn't address those of you who have it but haven't submitted.

I would also call if I were in that situation. I don't think they expect anyone to answer it, but I would feel weird leaving it blank when it's on there.

Are there still folks out there who haven't received the e-mail saying they're altering the secondary?

still nothing here

Same here. I read it to mean secondaries that hadn't gone out yet wouldn't have the new question...which of course doesn't address those of you who have it but haven't submitted.

I would also call if I were in that situation. I don't think they expect anyone to answer it, but I would feel weird leaving it blank when it's on there.

I am one of the first people who posted about the email. If you guys haven't gotten it feel free to PM me and I can even fwd it to you haha. or take a picture of it on my computer or something lol

I had already submitted my app long before I got the email. I read it to mean that the social justice question this year is going to be a wash regardless of if you answered it or not. If you still have the question on your app but you're not comfortable leaving the question blank...maybe just answer it as-is. Define social justice theoretically..then a blurb about actually putting it into action..maybe with an example of the difference in your own life. With all the confusion about it this year I cant imagine them putting too much weight into it. Just answer earnestly, but don't try too hard to get the "right" answer. Chances a it's probably going to be thrown out anyway

Yeah, I'm just not comfortable leaving it blank

Yeah, I'm just not comfortable leaving it blank

Haha I wouldn't either! But don't sweat too much bout what you end up writing for this one question. I'm sure you have lots of other secondaries to tackle! :)

Yeah, I'm just not comfortable leaving it blank

I'll call them tomorrow morning and report back here with what I find out.

Haha I wouldn't either! But don't sweat too much bout what you end up writing for this one question. I'm sure you have lots of other secondaries to tackle! :)

Yeah, I'm not even thinking about that question for now. I'm just going to wait to see what other people say on Monday or maybe give them a call myself for peace of mind.

I JUST called the office of admissions. They told me that they are re-evaluating the social justice question and that they aren't sure what they are going to do yet. she said that if you have NOT submitted yet then you MUST STILL answer ALL QUESTIONS

EDIT: also, the lady said they will come to a decision by approximately Wednesday and until they make a final decision all applicants must fill our the whole application.

I JUST called the office of admissions. They told me that they are re-evaluating the social justice question and that they aren't sure what they are going to do yet. she said that if you have NOT submitted yet then you MUST STILL answer ALL QUESTIONS

this forum is about to blow up. one somewhat minor mistake has just been turned into a fiasco.

What? They emailed me saying it would be disregarded.

Edit: see below

I JUST called the office of admissions. They told me that they are re-evaluating the social justice question and that they aren't sure what they are going to do yet. she said that if you have NOT submitted yet then you MUST STILL answer ALL QUESTIONS

EDIT: also, the lady said they will come to a decision by approximately Wednesday and until they make a final decision all applicants must fill our the whole application.

Quoted so ppl could see that I edited it.

yeah, the e-mail says, "we will be updating the application for this cycle, and this question will not appear on the newer secondary application" not, "we are trying to decide what to do with the question." again, i've already submitted so it doesn't affect me, but people who haven't received the same e-mail.

This situation is absurd. whats going on buckeyes!?

I JUST called the office of admissions. They told me that they are re-evaluating the social justice question and that they aren't sure what they are going to do yet. she said that if you have NOT submitted yet then you MUST STILL answer ALL QUESTIONS

EDIT: also, the lady said they will come to a decision by approximately Wednesday and until they make a final decision all applicants must fill our the whole application.

And this is why you do not submit blank essay questions. Thanks typicalindian!

And this is why you do not submit blank essay questions. Thanks typicalindian!

:D no problem buddy

I got the email too, of course, I had already submitted days prior to the email. I thought I had a pretty good answer too. Rats.

effing bs

This situation is absurd. whats going on buckeyes!?

Completely agree...hate to say it, but this has been the worst application I've ever filled out.

So they STILL haven't decided, yet they've sent that email out to some but not others? I really don't understand what's going on here...

Give me an interview, OSU, and all will be forgiven! :D

Give me an interview, OSU, and all will be forgiven! :D

I won't settle for less than an acceptance!

I won't settle for less than an acceptance!

You, sir, drive a hard bargain.

These essays are DEEP! Dang! I've really enjoyed writing them but I'm getting so far behind schedule it is making it less enjoyable. The altruism essay has taken me at least 5 hours and the social justice essay is going to be another 4-5 I think. I really hope they read these thoroughly since they asking such thought provoking questions. I would be greatly saddened if they did this: "Oh hey this guy has a 28 on his MCAT and a low GPA, I'll throw him/her out before reading the essays" . I don't even have a bad MCAT or GPA and I would be upset to hear it! If they do any sort of screening before reading these essays they shouldn't be requiring such extensive essays IMHO. These better be read, they better read everyone's...


end rant

P.S. Should I write this social justice essay?! Ahhhh :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused:

Just checked the secondary. The prompt has now been changed to:

Articulate your understanding of social justice. How have you advocated or how would you advocate for social justice. (600 words or less)

Give me an interview, OSU, and all will be forgiven! :D

I won't settle for less than an acceptance!

You, sir, drive a hard bargain.

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this is a joke, chill guys. They'll get it worked out, just relax everyone.

Just checked the secondary. The prompt has now been changed to:

Articulate your understanding of social justice. How have you advocated or how would you advocate for social justice. (600 words or less)

Interesting. So what do you think that means for the people who already submitted?

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/23877105.jpg

this is a joke, chill guys. They'll get it worked out, just relax everyone.

lol we were both joking :thumbup:

Interesting. So what do you think that means for the people who already submitted?

yeah this is a big head scratcher :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

I just checked my secondary and the question was changed from when I submitted earlier today around 4 PM!

what the heck?!

yeah this is a big head scratcher :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

I just checked my secondary and the question was changed from when I submitted earlier today around 4 PM!

what the heck?!

Seriously, not that I did this, but think if someone worked on the essay all day today and went to submit it this evening and it was changed. I would be like :wtf:

Seriously, not that I did this, but think if someone worked on the essay all day today and went to submit it this evening and it was changed. I would be like :wtf:

if you dont mind me asking, have you already submitted and if so, if you check your secondary does it have the original question or the newly updated question?

if you dont mind me asking, have you already submitted and if so, if you check your secondary does it have the original question or the newly updated question?

No, I figured I'd wait for all of this to get "resolved" before moving forward with this secondary as I did not want to waste my time on an essay that may have been thrown out, or changed in this case.

No, I figured I'd wait for all of this to get "resolved" before moving forward with this secondary as I did not want to waste my time on an essay that may have been thrown out, or changed in this case.

fair enough, fair enough!

anyone else who submitted before today, if you check your secondary does it have the original question or the newly updated question?

lol we were both joking :thumbup:

word :cool:

fair enough, fair enough!

anyone else who submitted before today, if you check your secondary does it have the original question or the newly updated question?

I also waited for all this to be sorted out first, but I feel for you. If I were you I'd probably call and let them know that you answered the original question.

And you'd think that if a school changes a question they'd at least notify people in some capacity just in case they don't notice it.

I also waited for all this to be sorted out first, but I feel for you. If I were you I'd probably call and let them know that you answered the original question.

And you'd think that if a school changes a question they'd at least notify people in some capacity just in case they don't notice it.

Seriously. This just seems like a fiasco IMO. They should at least have a big red warning or something at the top of the application or next to the question. I mean, as I get secondaries, I take the prompts and write them in a word document so do not have to log in each time to see them. If it were not for this thread, I probably would not notice till I went to submit if I would have noticed it at all.

if you dont mind me asking, have you already submitted and if so, if you check your secondary does it have the original question or the newly updated question?

Ugh. I submitted last week (and subsequently got the email about throwing the question out), but now I am getting a log in error.

Wow. I feel like this is seriously going to screw up everyone who has already submitted (me included). I wonder how they're going to play this, especially since there have already been interview invites, no? :confused: Ugh.

Hey everyone, I submitted my app before the email (and was one of the first ones to post about it here) and I just checked my secondary. The question DID CHANGE:

"Articulate your understanding of social justice. How have you advocated or how would you advocate for social justice. (600 words or less)"

-this is way more clear than the original question...much more personal and not so theoretical...
-obviously, my answer doesn't answer the question completely now that it's changed...really hoping OSU stands by their word and disregards my answer to this question since I submitted early before they figured it out

#OSUFAIL

I talked to admissions this morning. They are aware that only those applying after today will have the reworded question. Since they know when we submitted (and consequently which question we had), they are going to keep that in mind when reviewing apps.

Whew! Thanks for calling craftyconquerer and posting their message. appreciate it.

whew! Thanks for calling craftyconquerer and posting their message. Appreciate it.

+1

Did you guys have verified primaries before you received secondary invites?

Did you guys have verified primaries before you received secondary invites?

Yes

Just got the following email regarding the social justice question:

Dear Applicant,

We are excited that you are working on your secondary application to the College of Medicine at The Ohio State University College of Medicine. This is to let you know that in an effort to provide clarification in the second essay we changed the wording of this essay. We hope you will find this helpful.

We look forward to receiving your secondary application.

Best Regards,

So it looks like they are taking the necessary action to make applicants aware.

i submitted yesterday, but have received no email saying they have received my secondary/my application is complete. on the status page, it still says "awaiting submission of secondary"

did it take you guys a couple of days to be marked complete?

i submitted yesterday, but have received no email saying they have received my secondary/my application is complete. on the status page, it still says "awaiting submission of secondary"

did it take you guys a couple of days to be marked complete?

Yeah it takes a few days.

It has been 5 days and mine just says: Submitted.
Does it then change to complete?

Just got the following email regarding the social justice question:



So it looks like they are taking the necessary action to make applicants aware.

I'm still waiting for any communication like this...it's times like these that make me happy to have SDN.

I'm still waiting for any communication like this...it's times like these that make me happy to have SDN.

:thumbup:

Just got the following email regarding the social justice question:



So it looks like they are taking the necessary action to make applicants aware.

Well I submitted the application this morning and didn't notice they changed it until I read it here I'm upset.:confused: Luckily, I ended up answering their question as to how I have advocated it but I wish I would have known because I did write a lot about what social advocacy is to me. Blah.

Got this email.



We have received your Autumn 2013 AMCAS application information. To apply to The Ohio State University College of Medicine, Please access Ohio State’s self-service website to complete a supplemental application.
You will need an Ohio State Username and password to access the supplemental application. For many new applicants, you may not yet have or you may not know your username and password. To establish your Ohio State Username, please visit my.osu.edu (http://my.osu.edu) and request an activation code. If you do not know or have forgotten your Ohio State Username, click on the ‘Forgot username?’ link below the login box in the Current Student section. If you have problems accessing your information, please call 614-688-HELP (4357).
After you have your Ohio State Username and password, please complete the supplemental application (https://buckeyelink.erp.ohio-state.edu/psp/shcosubl/EMPLOYEE/HRMS/s/WEBLIB_PTPP_SC.HOMEPAGE.FieldFormula.IScript_AppHP ?pt_fname=HCCC_OSU_SUPLMENTL_APPLICATION&FolderPath=PORTAL_ROOT_OBJECT.CO_EMPLOYEE_SELF_SER VICE.HCCC_OSU_SUPLMENTL_APPLICATION&IsFolder=true). Note: Only applicants who have U.S. citizenship, U.S. permanent residency, refugee status, or political asylee in hand at the time of application are considered for admission.
An $80 fee is assessed upon submission of your supplemental application to the College of Medicine. You may use Visa, MasterCard, Discover, or American Express to pay the fee.
Your supplemental application will be processed within three to five days of submission. At this point you may view our admissions requirements and track your application status at the College of Medicine Admissions website http://medicine.osu.edu/students/admissions/requirements/pages/applicationstatus.aspx
Thank you again for your application.


clicked on the supplemental application, logged in, went in the self-service, did not see any supplemental application, what's wrong?

Does anybody know what we are supposed to do if we received the AMCAS fee waiver? Their instructions seem to indicate they want us to mail a copy to them...we can't forward them the email AMCAS sent us?

hope another round of II's come out soon!

has anyone, who is complete, been able to log onto the medstar site?

my secondary is marked received on the med star site...does this mean im complete?

and I was just able to log in a minute ago to check this

Does anybody know what we are supposed to do if we received the AMCAS fee waiver? Their instructions seem to indicate they want us to mail a copy to them...we can't forward them the email AMCAS sent us?

I emailed it:

Edit: I take it back. I seem to recall the instructions saying they will just verify the Fee Waiver. I submitted 3 days ago, and it still says Pending Fee waiver. Anyone else know more?

my secondary is marked received on the med star site...does this mean im complete?

and I was just able to log in a minute ago to check this

i can't login to the medstar site. where are people logging in who do? under ohio state users or applicants? (technically, i thought we had osu user ids)

i can't login to the medstar site. where are people logging in who do? under ohio state users or applicants? (technically, i thought we had osu user ids)

This should be helpful for all those wanting to check status. It has instructions, be careful to follow them. Log in as an applicant. And cross your fingers!

http://medicine.osu.edu/students/admissions/requirements/pages/applicationstatus.aspx

So in one of the essays I submitted all the hyphens got turned into question marks for some reason. This wasn't the case when I looked over it before submitting. Should I email them and correct it.....?

So in one of the essays I submitted all the hyphens got turned into question marks for some reason. This wasn't the case when I looked over it before submitting. Should I email them and correct it.....?

Same... I feel so dumb haha... Apparently we should have copy pasted our essay into textedit/notepad before we copied it into the application and not directly from microsoft word :(

Same... I feel so dumb haha... Apparently we should have copy pasted our essay into textedit/notepad before we copied it into the application and not directly from microsoft word :(

Yah, I had this problem too. Adcom said same thing. Don't feel too bad.

Yah, I had this problem too. Adcom said same thing. Don't feel too bad.

Thank makes me feel a lot better, thanks for the reply! :thumbup:

Has anybody received a complete email or had their online status change from "Submitted" to "Complete"?

Also, I never received an email about the change in the social justice question so I'm checking to make sure my app is not lost in an abyss.

Thanks

Has anybody received a complete email or had their online status change from "Submitted" to "Complete"?

Also, I never received an email about the change in the social justice question so I'm checking to make sure my app is not lost in an abyss.

Thanks
from what I read on their website, you do not get a complete email and they dont change your status from "secondary received" to "complete"

quote from website:

Complete Application File - consists of your AMCAS application, the Ohio State secondary application, valid MCAT scores, and at least two academic reference letters. We do not notify you when your application is complete nor does your application status change to "complete".

from what I read on their website, you do not get a complete email and they dont change your status from "secondary received" to "complete"

quote from website:

Complete Application File - consists of your AMCAS application, the Ohio State secondary application, valid MCAT scores, and at least two academic reference letters. We do not notify you when your application is complete nor does your application status change to "complete".

Hey Buckeye,
Thanks for posting! Somehow I missed that when checking.
Good luck,:luck:

FINALLY finished the secondary. The essays took me nearly all day to complete, but I think they came out OK. Now I'm just hoping that it pays off lol.

Finished this beast today. Hoping for some home school love! ;)

I am SO glad I read this thread... thanks everyone for some really helpful posts!

Hey can someone explain to me please, what is meant by a required community service component? Does anyone understand the curricular changes that have undergone for this class of OSUCM?

Also, for Social justice essay, what they mean by advocate social justice. Do they want us to be a Gandhi?

This should be helpful for all those wanting to check status. It has instructions, be careful to follow them. Log in as an applicant. And cross your fingers!

http://medicine.osu.edu/students/admissions/requirements/pages/applicationstatus.aspx

How are you accessing that page? It keeps telling me my password is wrong although I'm using their formula.

Is anybody able to access the MedStar site? It is annoying the **** out of me trying to log in. I'm following their stupid instructions but nothing is working.

mine worked when i used the link and followed the directions.

Is AAMC ID and AMCAS ID the same thing? I'm trying to follow their directions for logging in to the medSTAR page but I keep getting a username/password error.

Is AAMC ID and AMCAS ID the same thing? I'm trying to follow their directions for logging in to the medSTAR page but I keep getting a username/password error.

yes, they are the same ID number.

Is AAMC ID and AMCAS ID the same thing? I'm trying to follow their directions for logging in to the medSTAR page but I keep getting a username/password error.

They are the same. I actually retried an insane number of times before realizing the 2nd part is the LAST letter of your last name. I know it's in bold and italics, but I still put the first letter of my last name no less than 10 times! So triple-check the formula - surely I'm not the only one. :D

They are the same. I actually retried an insane number of times before realizing the 2nd part is the LAST letter of your last name. I know it's in bold and italics, but I still put the first letter of my last name no less than 10 times! So triple-check the formula - surely I'm not the only one. :D

LOL that was my problem too. I kept reading first letter from the wording in that sentence.

They are the same. I actually retried an insane number of times before realizing the 2nd part is the LAST letter of your last name. I know it's in bold and italics, but I still put the first letter of my last name no less than 10 times! So triple-check the formula - surely I'm not the only one. :D

Haha, when I applied two cycles ago I had the same problem. I had to call the Admissions office because I swore it was broke, lol.

Haha, when I applied two cycles ago I had the same problem. I had to call the Admissions office because I swore it was broke, lol.

ahahaha, I emailed them too. I swear the way they wrote that password sentence is an optical illusion that makes your brain read "first letter" even though the "last letter" is bolded. I read it and tried a million times, but it wasn't until they emailed me back that I read it correctly.

ahahaha, I emailed them too. I swear the way they wrote that password sentence is an optical illusion that makes your brain read "first letter" even though the "last letter" is bolded. I read it and tried a million times, but it wasn't until they emailed me back that I read it correctly.

Lol. Same here.

ahahaha, I emailed them too. I swear the way they wrote that password sentence is an optical illusion that makes your brain read "first letter" even though the "last letter" is bolded. I read it and tried a million times, but it wasn't until they emailed me back that I read it correctly.

I also emailed...and figured it out minutes later (after days of trying off and on! :laugh:). They said it's quite common - definitely agree with the illusion!

We are notifying you that we received your secondary application. In order for your application to be complete, please keep the following in mind:

Sorry if this has already been answered, but I don't want to read 6 pages to find it :)

I just added OSU to my AMCAS, and they sent me the activation email, but no supplemental application. Will they send this to me at a later time? Or is it available to me now and I just have to find it?

Thanks!

I'm pretty sure the email with the secondary link came a day after the activation email for me

Interview invite today! Anyone else? They sent me a status update email and I had to log in (using the AAMC ID, letters of name, etc., formula) and the interview invite was there!

They assigned me a date. Anyone know if they are open to rescheduling? Just curious to get a consensus before I try to call...