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gettheleadout
03-07-2012, 07:33 PM
"At the University of Chicago in an atmosphere of interdisciplinary scholarship and discovery, the Pritzker School of Medicine is dedicated to inspiring diverse students of exceptional promise to become leaders and innovators in science and medicine for the betterment of humanity."

Essay Question 1. Our Mission Statement above is an expression of our core purpose and educational philosophy. In particular, it highlights the value we place on diversity since we regard the diversity of the entering class as essential for educational excellence. Please write an essay on how you would enhance diversity at Pritzker and advance the Pritzker mission. We suggest that you limit your essay to about 550 words.

Essay Question 2. Tell us about a difficult or challenging situation you have encountered and how you dealt with it. In your response, identify both the coping skills you called upon to resolve the dilemma, and the support person(s) from whom you sought advice. We suggest that you limit your essay to about 400 words.

(Optional) Additional Information. Please feel free to use this space to convey any additional information that you might wish the Committee to know. We suggest that you limit your text to about 200 words.

Good luck to everyone applying! :luck:

NickNaylor
05-09-2012, 05:25 AM
Best of luck everyone!

Clumpofstuff
05-10-2012, 01:57 PM
Applying here to test my luck
Is Chicago rolling admissions?

NickNaylor
05-10-2012, 03:22 PM
Applying here to test my luck
Is Chicago rolling admissions?

Yes.

BurntFlower
05-10-2012, 09:34 PM
I probably have close to zero chance of getting in, but this school is definitely in my top 3 schools I would LOVE to go to.

sliceofbread136
05-11-2012, 01:25 AM
Anyone know this school's stance on AP credits for prereqs? Too lazy to look it up!

DCSB6
05-11-2012, 06:03 AM
All in for Pritzker. Lived in Chicago for a year of undergrad... maybe they can accomodate a super early interview while I'm at Lollapalooza!! :p

NickNaylor
05-12-2012, 06:34 AM
Best of luck guys. Feel free to post any questions you might have. I seem to be the main SDN representative here, but we also have a third year/upcoming fourth year (nosugrefneb) who posts occasionally as well as a couple other first years every once and a while.

NickNaylor
05-12-2012, 06:36 AM
Anyone know this school's stance on AP credits for prereqs? Too lazy to look it up!

Here's a relatively brief discussion of AP credit: http://pritzker.uchicago.edu/admissions/requirements/pathways.shtml

I highly recommend that everyone spend a little time checking out the admissions website (especially the FAQs). There's some very valuable information there that's probably worth your time to read.

sliceofbread136
05-12-2012, 11:07 AM
Here's a relatively brief discussion of AP credit: http://pritzker.uchicago.edu/admissions/requirements/pathways.shtml

I highly recommend that everyone spend a little time checking out the admissions website (especially the FAQs). There's some very valuable information there that's probably worth your time to read.

Say someone is a cookie cutter applicant with pretty good stats. What would be your advice to him for actually getting an acceptance? Just try and set yourself apart alittle with essays/interview?

NickNaylor
05-12-2012, 03:05 PM
Say someone is a cookie cutter applicant with pretty good stats. What would be your advice to him for actually getting an acceptance? Just try and set yourself apart alittle with essays/interview?

The secondary is very important. Beyond numbers, Pritzker heavily emphasizes "fit." It will help you to clearly demonstrate why Pritzker in particular will be helpful to you becoming a physician (beyond just being a medical school) or otherwise helping you achieve your goals. The secondary really can make or break you.

CodeRedDew
05-12-2012, 06:55 PM
Nick, does Pritzker screen applicants with subscores below an 8 in a section?

NickNaylor
05-13-2012, 06:04 AM
Nick, does Pritzker screen applicants with subscores below an 8 in a section?

I have no idea. I highly doubt that they would screen anyone out based on scores alone without looking at the rest of your app. That said, you're probably looking at an uphill battle unless your other scores are top notch.

Edit: after looking at your MDApps, I wouldn't count you out at all. Your other scores are pretty strong. Obviously it depends on the rest of your app, but a 33 isn't anything to sneeze at.

BurntFlower
05-13-2012, 11:44 AM
Do they accept community college credits? I might have to take one class at a community college.

NickNaylor
05-14-2012, 06:32 AM
Do they accept community college credits? I might have to take one class at a community college.

Here's their take on CC credit for pre-reqs (from the FAQs, available here: http://pritzker.uchicago.edu/admissions/faq.shtml). I'm not sure if that's your situation, but I imagine you can extrapolate their opinion on pre-reqs to all CC courses.

Q. Can I take my prerequisites at a community college?

A. Generally speaking, community college courses are not viewed as having a similar level of rigor as the courses provided at four-year institutions. There are certainly many reasons to pursue your first two years of coursework at a community college prior to transferring to a four-year institution. Should you choose to do so, we would recommend either holding off on taking your prerequisite science course until you transfer to the four-year institution, or taking introductory level science courses at the community college and then planning to take upper-level science courses at the four-year institution.

BurntFlower
05-14-2012, 12:47 PM
Here's their take on CC credit for pre-reqs (from the FAQs, available here: http://pritzker.uchicago.edu/admissions/faq.shtml). I'm not sure if that's your situation, but I imagine you can extrapolate their opinion on pre-reqs to all CC courses.

Q. Can I take my prerequisites at a community college?

A. Generally speaking, community college courses are not viewed as having a similar level of rigor as the courses provided at four-year institutions. There are certainly many reasons to pursue your first two years of coursework at a community college prior to transferring to a four-year institution. Should you choose to do so, we would recommend either holding off on taking your prerequisite science course until you transfer to the four-year institution, or taking introductory level science courses at the community college and then planning to take upper-level science courses at the four-year institution.
I just need to take one prerequisite at a community college because wasn't able to it during my 4 years of undergrad (graduating next week with two majors). I took all classes except inorganic chem 2.

Thank you so much!

NickNaylor
05-14-2012, 01:13 PM
In that case it definitely won't matter. The chronology on your app will be obvious, so I can't imagine that'll be held against you.

Big N Tasty
05-15-2012, 07:28 PM
Hey guys,

I'm not applying this cycle but I will be one year from now! So I'm just posting in here to follow along with the process to help me get an idea of what to expect :)

Best of luck,
Big N Tasty

vayntraubinator
05-17-2012, 03:25 AM
In that case it definitely won't matter. The chronology on your app will be obvious, so I can't imagine that'll be held against you.

How was your adjustment to life as a med student at U of C Pritzker (and if considering you had never lived in the area before)?

NickNaylor
05-17-2012, 05:39 AM
How was your adjustment to life as a med student at U of C Pritzker (and if considering you had never lived in the area before)?

This is an apt question for me as I was born and raised in Dallas and went to undergrad at a school two hours south of home, so this is my first significant period of time outside of Texas. I'll admit that I'm a pretty easy-going guy, so the move for me was a lot of fun. I liked getting to see a new city, especially in a different part of the country than what I'm used to.

As far as life as a med student, parts have been better and worse than I expected. In general, the work hasn't been as bad as I expected. I've been surprised at the amount of free time I generally have. I don't study as much as many of my classmates and I'm usually average or just below average on exams, but I'm fine with that (your personal goals will most determine your lifestyle as a med student). The volume of material was more than I was expecting, so that's been the only negative. I didn't do all that well in anatomy because I think it took me longer to adjust than most of my classmates. Overall, though, it's been a great experience - much better than I was expecting.

Hopefully that addresses your question. If you have more specific questions, though, feel free to post them.

GooseWing
05-17-2012, 06:25 AM
This is an apt question for me as I was born and raised in Dallas and went to undergrad at a school two hours south of home, so this is my first significant period of time outside of Texas. I'll admit that I'm a pretty easy-going guy, so the move for me was a lot of fun. I liked getting to see a new city, especially in a different part of the country than what I'm used to.

As far as life as a med student, parts have been better and worse than I expected. In general, the work hasn't been as bad as I expected. I've been surprised at the amount of free time I generally have. I don't study as much as many of my classmates and I'm usually average or just below average on exams, but I'm fine with that (your personal goals will most determine your lifestyle as a med student). The volume of material was more than I was expecting, so that's been the only negative. I didn't do all that well in anatomy because I think it took me longer to adjust than most of my classmates. Overall, though, it's been a great experience - much better than I was expecting.

Hopefully that addresses your question. If you have more specific questions, though, feel free to post them.

Very honest and very much appreciated!

Invin22
05-17-2012, 10:15 AM
I'm also a rising second year, and I could echo a lot of what NickNaylor said. The volume of material is absolutely incredible, so learning to manage it is challenging. I've really learned to appreciate the P-F system and the opportunities to collaborate with classmates. I think my main misconception about what medical school would be like was that I thought more of my learning would be more independent--that's how it was for me in undergrad, so I expected more of the same. I've found that my learning has been greatly enhanced by dedicated physicians and awesome classmates to guide me through this crazy process of becoming a doctor :)

I'm also from out of state, and can say that Chicago has been a lot of fun. It's my first time living in a big city, and while it's been a big adjustment, I've thoroughly enjoyed it.

BurntFlower
05-18-2012, 12:30 PM
I'm also a rising second year, and I could echo a lot of what NickNaylor said. The volume of material is absolutely incredible, so learning to manage it is challenging. I've really learned to appreciate the P-F system and the opportunities to collaborate with classmates. I think my main misconception about what medical school would be like was that I thought more of my learning would be more independent--that's how it was for me in undergrad, so I expected more of the same. I've found that my learning has been greatly enhanced by dedicated physicians and awesome classmates to guide me through this crazy process of becoming a doctor :)

I'm also from out of state, and can say that Chicago has been a lot of fun. It's my first time living in a big city, and while it's been a big adjustment, I've thoroughly enjoyed it.

What are some of the things you liked the most, and the least, about living in Chicago?

Invin22
05-18-2012, 02:26 PM
What are some of the things you liked the most, and the least, about living in Chicago?

Good question--so my biggest concern about coming here was that it would be too cold. Having grown up in Arizona, these concerns were significant. While it was much colder than I was used to last winter, I made sure to have some solid winter coats, and really, I stayed inside most of the time. When I first got here, I felt like I was the only person who wasn't a pro at using the subways, trains, and buses. It seemed like everyone had grown up using public transit, except me. It wasn't until I had been here a few months that I became comfortable with getting around in the city. It actually isn't that bad, and Chicago's public transit is very convenient once you learn how to navigate the system. Once you do learn how to get around, you can begin to appreciate the variety which city life affords--restaurants, museums, malls, etc. I really enjoy walking around downtown and just exploring. There is no shortage of musical performances, plays, baseball games, whatever you could want really. Also, Lake Michigan is very beautiful, and they have a very nice running trail that extends from Hyde Park all the way to downtown, so if you're into running or biking, it's something you'll really appreciate.

NickNaylor
06-04-2012, 06:26 AM
Bumping for lack of activity. :) Hope the application writing is going well!

yangpa
06-15-2012, 01:59 PM
My top school!
Good luck to everyone! ;)

nychila
06-15-2012, 03:41 PM
Does Pritzker frequently admit Canadians who have studied in Canada or internationals? My numbers aren't par to the school's averages, but my background/motivations and experiences/extracurriculars might change their mind :)

NickNaylor
06-16-2012, 11:51 AM
Does Pritzker frequently admit Canadians who have studied in Canada or internationals? My numbers aren't par to the school's averages, but my background/motivations and experiences/extracurriculars might change their mind :)

Per the FAQ, Candians = international students = US students for the purposes of evaluating your candidacy. However (as I'm sure you know by now), international students aren't eligible for federal loans or institutional aid (other than perhaps scholarships - the FAQ is a little vague), so you'll have to front that cost yourself.

For future reference, I highly recommend all applicants spend a few minutes reading the FAQ. It's a great resource that spells out the application process well: http://pritzker.uchicago.edu/admissions/faq.shtml

mrbrowncanmoo
06-16-2012, 08:36 PM
Hi! I'm sorry if this is a silly question but I'm slightly neurotic at the moment and want to be sure I'm not missing the boat here regarding secondaries. I checked out the FAQ section on the Pritzker website and it says that within a couple days of submitting your primary application, you will receive an email with a link to fill out the secondary. I submitted June 5 and I have nothing. I just checked my spam and nothing. Did they mean, "after your primary is verified?" Please advise!

DCSB6
06-17-2012, 05:24 AM
Applications won't be transmitted to schools until June 29th; this is when you will start receiving secondaries.

NickNaylor
06-17-2012, 07:36 AM
Hi! I'm sorry if this is a silly question but I'm slightly neurotic at the moment and want to be sure I'm not missing the boat here regarding secondaries. I checked out the FAQ section on the Pritzker website and it says that within a couple days of submitting your primary application, you will receive an email with a link to fill out the secondary. I submitted June 5 and I have nothing. I just checked my spam and nothing. Did they mean, "after your primary is verified?" Please advise!

See DCS' post above. Even though primaries aren't submitted until the end of June, you may not actually get the secondary until sometime in July.

mrbrowncanmoo
06-17-2012, 01:00 PM
OK thanks so much to both of you for the answer to my question!

nabilesmail
06-18-2012, 12:20 AM
thanks Nick for helping out. I'll also be applying here. Another cookie cutter that doesnt know how to make myself stand out :/

NickNaylor
06-18-2012, 05:26 AM
thanks Nick for helping out. I'll also be applying here. Another cookie cutter that doesnt know how to make myself stand out :/

Heh, don't worry - that's how 95% of applicants are. You probably aren't as "cookie cutter" as you think.

nosugrefneb
06-26-2012, 10:00 PM
but we also have a third year/upcoming fourth year (nosugrefneb) who posts occasionally

Yo. Good luck, people. I'll be one of the fourth years on the admissions committee this year, so do ask any questions that you have and I'll try to keep you updated (though perhaps not as well as Nick has done). The podcast (http://pritzkerpodcast.com) is also a good resource to search through if you have random questions about this crazy process.

I also take cash.
Kidding. ORAMI?

Slurrppee21
06-28-2012, 01:04 AM
Thanks for the support you guys! It's cool to know Med Students at Pritzker have a mentoring quality :).

Says something nice about the atmosphere I'm guessing right?

NickNaylor
06-28-2012, 04:30 AM
Thanks for the support you guys! It's cool to know Med Students at Pritzker have a mentoring quality :).

Says something nice about the atmosphere I'm guessing right?

I don't know about Ben's experience, but I'll say that second and fourth year advice/tips/suggestions during our classes was INVALUABLE. Both serve as TAs in every class and they're extremely helpful. The third years tend to disappear into The Void but I've had nothing but good experiences from the other older students I've interacted with.

(sent from my phone - please forgive typos)

DCSB6
06-29-2012, 09:27 AM
Secondary link received!

NickNaylor
06-29-2012, 09:34 AM
Secondary link received!

Came here to give you guys an update on this. The office has begun receiving primaries, so if your application is verified you can expect to receive the secondary soon. Please don't panic if you don't receive the link immediately or even by the end of the day. Thousands of applications have been received and only so many emails can be sent out. If you don't receive the email today, you should sometime this weekend. And just to dispel any worries, there is no significance to when you receive the secondary.

Good luck!

(sent from my phone - please forgive typos)

kettlecorn91
06-29-2012, 11:53 AM
Got it too

LAMD2017
06-29-2012, 12:08 PM
Secondary link received!

do you mind posting the questions? are they the same as last year? thanks :)!

Tots
06-29-2012, 12:11 PM
do you mind posting the questions? are they the same as last year? thanks :)!

They are above, GTLO has updated the first post. They slightly changed one of them. :)

Fivo
06-29-2012, 12:44 PM
I hope my mcat comes back good because I'm going to crush the diversity and challenging situation essay questions (rough life).

I'm so jealous of you guys with verified apps and done with the mcat. I'm still getting verified and waiting on my mcat score lol!

yangpa
06-29-2012, 03:25 PM
Came here to give you guys an update on this. The office has begun receiving primaries, so if your application is verified you can expect to receive the secondary soon. Please don't panic if you don't receive the link immediately or even by the end of the day. Thousands of applications have been received and only so many emails can be sent out. If you don't receive the email today, you should sometime this weekend. And just to dispel any worries, there is no significance to when you receive the secondary.

Good luck!

(sent from my phone - please forgive typos)

Wow thank you so much for your explanation because I almost panicked hehe

msf2012
06-29-2012, 04:13 PM
Is anyone else having difficulty accessing the secondary application? I received the email link, but keep getting error messages when I open up the page :(

threnodyk
06-29-2012, 06:09 PM
Here's their take on CC credit for pre-reqs (from the FAQs, available here: http://pritzker.uchicago.edu/admissions/faq.shtml). I'm not sure if that's your situation, but I imagine you can extrapolate their opinion on pre-reqs to all CC courses.

Q. Can I take my prerequisites at a community college?

A. Generally speaking, community college courses are not viewed as having a similar level of rigor as the courses provided at four-year institutions. ....

Do you know why they think CC classes are less rigorous? I'm in CA; the 2 year CC + 2 year UC system is pretty standard and a great way for lower-income students to get a bachelors, and the fact that out-of-state med schools will look down on (or not even consider) people because of CC pre-reqs is really upsetting.

NickNaylor
06-29-2012, 06:51 PM
Do you know why they think CC classes are less rigorous? I'm in CA and having taken science courses at both UC Berkeley and Berkeley City College, I can say they were the same level of difficulty. The 2 year CC + 2 year UC system is pretty standard and a great way for lower-income students to get a bachelors, and the fact that out-of-state med schools will look down on (or not even consider) people because of CC pre-reqs is really upsetting.

No idea, sorry. However my guess is that if you majored in the sciences, you'll be fine.

(sent from my phone - please forgive typos)

threnodyk
06-29-2012, 07:26 PM
No idea, sorry. However my guess is that if you majored in the sciences, you'll be fine.

(sent from my phone - please forgive typos)

Yeah, since "lower division" isn't specified, it works out ok for me. Thanks for the reply!

NickNaylor
07-01-2012, 04:40 AM
Is anyone else having difficulty accessing the secondary application? I received the email link, but keep getting error messages when I open up the page :(

I know this is a couple of days late, but the storms on Friday were causing problems with a variety of web services (including the application service). Hopefully you got it worked out!

Blue469
07-01-2012, 05:51 AM
My #1 school! Really hope they give me a shot :)

umichman
07-01-2012, 09:15 AM
Is it okay to use the "Additional Info" space to talk about why I want to go to Pritzker?

NickNaylor
07-01-2012, 10:00 AM
Is it okay to use the "Additional Info" space to talk about why I want to go to Pritzker?

I think that would be appropriate. This section wasn't available when I applied so I don't have any real advice, but if you have nothing else to say but have compelling reasons for why Pritzker would be a place you want to do your training, I think that'd be a good use of space.

(sent from my phone - please forgive typos)

docsurf
07-01-2012, 10:41 AM
No idea, sorry. However my guess is that if you majored in the sciences, you'll be fine.

(sent from my phone - please forgive typos)

Their take on CC classes has me stressing. I was a chem major and have taken all of my bio, except biochem, as a post baccalaureate at a CC. Got a 14 on bio in the MCAT and have a strong GPA. All other pre-reqs are at a UC. Taking these factors into account, will CC bio significantly detract from my application?

NickNaylor
07-01-2012, 11:08 AM
Their take on CC classes has me stressing. I was a chem major and have taken all of my bio, except biochem, as a post baccalaureate at a CC. Got a 14 on bio in the MCAT and have a strong GPA. All other pre-reqs are at a UC. Taking these factors into account, will CC bio significantly detract from my application?

I really don't know. My guess would be no. Of you're concerned about it I would suggest talking with the admissions office about it. Our resident admissions committee member might also be able to help...

(puts up bat signal)

(sent from my phone - please forgive typos)

NickNaylor
07-02-2012, 10:17 AM
Their take on CC classes has me stressing. I was a chem major and have taken all of my bio, except biochem, as a post baccalaureate at a CC. Got a 14 on bio in the MCAT and have a strong GPA. All other pre-reqs are at a UC. Taking these factors into account, will CC bio significantly detract from my application?

For you and anyone else worried about CC stuff, here's some information that I received from the admissions office:

...we look at an applicant's overall trajectory and how they challenge themselves by their curriculum. So, for example, someone who started at CC and transitioned to a 4-year school and did well would be reviewed very positively by our committee. We recognize that not everyone has the same resources and that not everyone starts at the same place when they begin college. We would be more concerned if someone did well at a CC and then did poorly when transitioning to a 4-year school. And we would be concerned if someone never challenged themselves with their curriculum (e.g. if they had AP credit but then took only basic science courses). Also, the admissions committee understands that not all CC are equal. Many CC programs are not rigorous, but we know which ones, e.g. which California CCs, are strong, and we know which city and community colleges around the country are not. So they should not stress out! :)

Hopefully that will assuage your (and others') concerns!

docsurf
07-02-2012, 03:00 PM
For you and anyone else worried about CC stuff, here's some information that I received from the admissions office:



Hopefully that will assuage your (and others') concerns!
Concerns assuaged. Much thanks.

aspiringdoc3
07-02-2012, 05:48 PM
Is anyone else who is verified still waiting for the secondary? Thanks!

NewYorker9
07-02-2012, 06:10 PM
my apologies in advance for being so neurotic, but the since it recommends a limit of say 200 characters for some portions of the secondary is it a deal breaker if I go over a bit (maybe 220 characters or so)? thanks guys

NickNaylor
07-02-2012, 06:18 PM
my apologies in advance for being so neurotic, but the since it recommends a limit of say 200 characters for some portions of the secondary is it a deal breaker if I go over a bit (maybe 220 characters or so)? thanks guys

I went over by like... 700 characters on the "fit" question. Don't use unnecessary words, but the limit isn't an absolutely hard limit.

(sent from my phone - please forgive typos)

riddler
07-02-2012, 08:03 PM
Is anyone else who is verified still waiting for the secondary? Thanks!

I'm verified and still no secondary. I'm going to wait a couple of days before giving them a call.

rierphfft
07-02-2012, 08:39 PM
I'm verified and still no secondary. I'm going to wait a couple of days before giving them a call.

same here...I hope I get one soon!

NewYorker9
07-02-2012, 09:17 PM
I went over by like... 700 characters on the "fit" question. Don't use unnecessary words, but the limit isn't an absolutely hard limit.

(sent from my phone - please forgive typos)

much appreciated and good to know, thanks

CsHead
07-03-2012, 05:37 AM
I'm verified and still no secondary. I'm going to wait a couple of days before giving them a call.

same here...I hope I get one soon!

I'm positive you guys are going to get the email if you have not received it by now. AMCAS has not been verified yet and I still received the email.

unnamedlord
07-03-2012, 06:34 AM
Got a supplementary application invite from UChicago Med schl today. But AMCAS hasn't verified my app yet and hasn't marked my transcript as received either so why would it send it to med schls? Doesn't make sense. I do have a high MCAT score (38)... u think they were checking their applicants from AMCAS and decided to send me an invite cuz of it?

iceprincess4189
07-03-2012, 07:10 AM
just got an invite to the secondary too- AMCAS has not been verified yet.

but is anyone else having trouble actually getting into the secondary? once i fill out all of the information and click "Continue," it just resets all of the fields and doesn't do anything else. i tried in a different internet browser, and no luck either. any ideas?

good luck to everyone applying :)

unnamedlord
07-03-2012, 07:19 AM
Nope, worked well for me.

NickNaylor
07-03-2012, 07:27 AM
Got a supplementary application invite from UChicago Med schl today. But AMCAS hasn't verified my app yet and hasn't marked my transcript as received either so why would it send it to med schls? Doesn't make sense. I do have a high MCAT score (38)... u think they were checking their applicants from AMCAS and decided to send me an invite cuz of it?

I don't know how exactly the whole verification process works, but there are many schools that send secondaries before the primary is verified. I doubt that it's because of your MCAT or any other factor in your app.

(sent from my phone - please forgive typos)

Ellie Arroway
07-03-2012, 07:29 AM
Sounds like more than a few folks woke up to the same thing today. I submitted 6/27, definitely not verified, and got the secondary this morning (because they received my "intention to apply" from AMCAS). Do they not screen for secondaries/should I not feel flattered?

NickNaylor
07-03-2012, 07:32 AM
For those of you having trouble logging in to the secondary: once you register at the secondary website, you should receive a confirmation e-mail saying that you've registered. After you receive that e-mail, you should be able to log in and access the secondary. If you can't, give the admissions office a ring and they'll help you out.

NickNaylor
07-03-2012, 07:32 AM
Sounds like more than a few folks woke up to the same thing today. I submitted 6/27, definitely not verified, and got the secondary this morning (because they received my "intention to apply" from AMCAS). Do they not screen for secondaries/should I not feel flattered?

No, there is no pre-secondary screen.

applicantdwd
07-03-2012, 10:08 AM
Hey guys, I know this challenge essay topic comes up in many secondaries. How do people feel about the topic of finding a new path to medical school after a previously failed attempt to matriculate? Too overdone? It is sincerely the biggest challenge of my career and I topic I can be sincere about.

Also I haven't applied to Pritzker before so I'm wondering if they know I've applied before/should write about it.

Thanks in advance.

NickNaylor
07-03-2012, 10:30 AM
Hey guys, I know this challenge essay topic comes up in many secondaries. How do people feel about the topic of finding a new path to medical school after a previously failed attempt to matriculate? Too overdone? It is sincerely the biggest challenge of my career and I topic I can be sincere about.

Also I haven't applied to Pritzker before so I'm wondering if they know I've applied before/should write about it.

Thanks in advance.

I think that would be appropriate, though keep in mind these "challenges" of course aren't limited to your career - they can include personal difficulties, academic difficulties, etc.. Just be careful (both in this secondary and all essays that respond to this prompt) about focusing too much on the failure itself and not enough about why the experience was important to you. The latter is more important than the former IMO.

SoundSurgeon
07-03-2012, 11:07 AM
cool

JSmith9
07-03-2012, 01:56 PM
Hey everyone,

I am going back and forth about a "challenging situation" to write about for my secondary essay. I am leaning heavily toward writing about my parents' divorce and was wondering if you guys thought that was suitable?

NewYorker9
07-03-2012, 02:05 PM
Hey everyone,

I am going back and forth about a "challenging situation" to write about for my secondary essay. I am leaning heavily toward writing about my parents' divorce and was wondering if you guys thought that was suitable?

IMO that's fine, just make sure you write it in a way that shows you stably deal with the situation. If it's still tender and emotionally charged then I would shy away just because by putting it in your secondary it becomes fair game for the interview. If you're comfortable with it though I'm sure you have quite a bit you could say.

riddler
07-03-2012, 02:06 PM
Hey everyone,

I am going back and forth about a "challenging situation" to write about for my secondary essay. I am leaning heavily toward writing about my parents' divorce and was wondering if you guys thought that was suitable?

I'm sure that's fine. From what I understand, it can be anything that you found challenging. For example, maybe it was challenging to deal with an employee that wasn't doing his work properly.

NickNaylor
07-03-2012, 02:37 PM
I'm sure that's fine. From what I understand, it can be anything that you found challenging. For example, maybe it was challenging to deal with an employee that wasn't doing his work properly.

Agree with this. Avoid the universally trite ("one time I left a candy bar at my friend's house"), but really anything else is fine. What's more important IMO is what you took from the experience, not the experience itself.

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DCSB6
07-03-2012, 03:11 PM
Pritzker's twitter says they've started sending out interviews. Anyone here yet?

Irish Football
07-03-2012, 03:18 PM
Wow, I thought you were crazy but I just checked their twitter and you're right apparently they have offered interviews already! How can that be?!!! Do you think it's only for the applicants with insanely high stats?

Tots
07-04-2012, 09:54 AM
Randomly woke up to an Interview Invite this morning! WOW! I just have to say that in writing the essays for this school I realized how much I loved this school and how honored I would be to even have the chance to see it in person.... apparently that shined through in the essays?

Totally unexpected since its a holiday!

DCSB6
07-04-2012, 10:01 AM
Congrats!

NickNaylor
07-04-2012, 10:18 AM
Randomly woke up to an Interview Invite this morning! WOW! I just have to say that in writing the essays for this school I realized how much I loved this school and how honored I would be to even have the chance to see it in person.... apparently that shined through in the essays?

Totally unexpected since its a holiday!

Awesome, congrats on being the SDN first!

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NickNaylor
07-04-2012, 10:23 AM
Wow, I thought you were crazy but I just checked their twitter and you're right apparently they have offered interviews already! How can that be?!!! Do you think it's only for the applicants with insanely high stats?

Early on decisions will come quickly as the queue to review is short. I don't think it reflects much about your competitiveness so much as how quickly you're complete. As the cycle goes on, though, decisions will take longer and longer.

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IRASNA
07-04-2012, 11:38 AM
What's the consensus on a good secondary essay turn-around time. I might give UChicago a few weeks and make sure it's all solid. Don't really expect to get in with my stats, but maybe I can wow them with something in the secondary? It sucks trying to get all this done in the summer while working full-time!

NickNaylor
07-04-2012, 12:36 PM
What's the consensus on a good secondary essay turn-around time. I might give UChicago a few weeks and make sure it's all solid. Don't really expect to get in with my stats, but maybe I can wow them with something in the secondary? It sucks trying to get all this done in the summer while working full-time!

I always advise taking longer and producing good responses than rushing it. I turned my Pritzker secondary in roughly a month after I received it.

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SoulinNeed
07-04-2012, 02:15 PM
I took a few of my pre reqs at a CC after my undergrad graduation. Should I explain why in the "additional information" section.

NickNaylor
07-04-2012, 02:58 PM
I took a few of my pre reqs at a CC after my undergrad graduation. Should I explain why in the "additional information" section.

Is it something significant? And what kind of courses? Regardless, I wouldn't include it unless you think it's really important information.

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SoulinNeed
07-04-2012, 05:00 PM
Is it something significant? And what kind of courses? Regardless, I wouldn't include it unless you think it's really important information.

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Physics II & Orgo I & II. I took after I graduated from my undergrad. Maybe I shouldn't. No real reason outside of wanting to save money and it was the only place that still had classes that weren't full and I could fit together into a schedule.

iceprincess4189
07-05-2012, 06:42 AM
Randomly woke up to an Interview Invite this morning! WOW! I just have to say that in writing the essays for this school I realized how much I loved this school and how honored I would be to even have the chance to see it in person.... apparently that shined through in the essays?

Totally unexpected since its a holiday!

Congrats, that's awesome! Just wondering, when did you submit your secondary and when were you complete?

NickNaylor
07-05-2012, 07:13 AM
Physics II & Orgo I & II. I took after I graduated from my undergrad. Maybe I shouldn't. No real reason outside of wanting to save money and it was the only place that still had classes that weren't full and I could fit together into a schedule.

In that case I definitely wouldn't worry about it. The chronology will speak for itself.

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Invin22
07-05-2012, 08:15 AM
Randomly woke up to an Interview Invite this morning! WOW! I just have to say that in writing the essays for this school I realized how much I loved this school and how honored I would be to even have the chance to see it in person.... apparently that shined through in the essays?

Totally unexpected since its a holiday!

We'll look forward to welcoming you to campus :) As a student here, I can say that we really enjoy meeting interviewees.

SoulinNeed
07-05-2012, 08:37 AM
In that case I definitely wouldn't worry about it. The chronology will speak for itself.

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Thanks for the help, Nick. I appreciate it.

TheKDizzle
07-05-2012, 08:55 AM
Just received my interview invite today as well! SUPER excited for the opportunity to interview at this great school (:

NickNaylor
07-05-2012, 09:18 AM
Thanks for the help, Nick. I appreciate it.

Not a problem - good luck.

Just received my interview invite today as well! SUPER excited for the opportunity to interview at this great school (:

Congrats!

mohad
07-05-2012, 10:32 AM
Is it ok to reuse a topic on my secondary essay that I mentioned on my AMCAS app? I talked about how me being involved in music for a long time was an important activity on my AMCAS app, and I want to use it for my diversity essay and how I will carry out the mission statement. Is it OK if it's similar? It won't be a cut and paste, but I feel like a lot of the ideas will be similar.

DCSB6
07-05-2012, 10:45 AM
Rejected today... Submitted my secondary hours after it was sent on 6/29. Seems very swift though, anyway I can find out what the red flag was?

34Q, cGPA 3.90, sGPA 3.89

NickNaylor
07-05-2012, 11:00 AM
Rejected today... Submitted my secondary hours after it was sent on 6/29. Seems very swift though, anyway I can find out what the red flag was?

34Q, cGPA 3.90, sGPA 3.89

I have no idea how the pre-interview selection process operates, so I can't give you any ideas, unfortunately. Sorry to hear that though.

NickNaylor
07-05-2012, 11:01 AM
Is it ok to reuse a topic on my secondary essay that I mentioned on my AMCAS app? I talked about how me being involved in music for a long time was an important activity on my AMCAS app, and I want to use it for my diversity essay and how I will carry out the mission statement. Is it OK if it's similar? It won't be a cut and paste, but I feel like a lot of the ideas will be similar.

As long as it's not a direct cut-and-paste I think you'll be fine. Ideally you would include some more in-depth and/or new information that wasn't included in the primary.

dsk89
07-05-2012, 01:27 PM
Just got rejected today as well.
Good luck to the rest of you that have gotten invites and the others that are still waiting!

seahawks2013
07-05-2012, 01:48 PM
wtf how long after you submitted the secondary did you guys get rejected? seems hasty as hell

DCSB6
07-05-2012, 01:57 PM
Submitted same day as it came out, probably was near the top of the pile. Oh well, good luck in the cycle all!

Dsk89 - if you don't mind PMing me your stats, just curious whether they had some sort of screen.

NickNaylor
07-05-2012, 02:03 PM
wtf how long after you submitted the secondary did you guys get rejected? seems hasty as hell

As I mentioned previously, the office reviews files pretty quickly. Because the queue is pretty short, you'll likely get decisions quickly. It won't be so fast in a month or two, though.

NickNaylor
07-05-2012, 02:03 PM
Just got rejected today as well.
Good luck to the rest of you that have gotten invites and the others that are still waiting!

Best of luck with the rest of your cycle.

premed8991
07-05-2012, 02:03 PM
Wow, a 34 and a 3.9 got rejected this early in the cycle. Those are very strong stats. I am terrified.

DCSB6
07-05-2012, 02:09 PM
Holistic review process though. Just hoping it wasn't some sort of red flag I need to address for other schools.

NickNaylor
07-05-2012, 02:17 PM
Wow, a 34 and a 3.9 got rejected this early in the cycle. Those are very strong stats. I am terrified.

Holistic review process though. Just hoping it wasn't some sort of red flag I need to address for other schools.

Don't put too much sweat into it. There are people every year that are rejected pre-interview from Pritzker but end up getting accepted to Harvard, Yale, etc.. Don't let n=1 overly discourage you or put false expectations of doom in your mind. You'll be more than fine.

NickNaylor
07-05-2012, 03:00 PM
This is mostly to those that were rejected, but a couple of interesting facts:

-Thus far, the committee has only received 30 completed applications. This explains the very quick review time.

-With respect to numbers, each year the school rejects roughly 200 applicants that fall in the 4.0/40+ category.

Numbers are only one aspect of the application. Though it's tempting to use them as a basis for comparison because they're "objective" they really say nothing about the applicant's character, motivations, etc..

Also, a word of advice about rejections: don't take them as a sleight against your personal character or accomplishments. Instead, treat them as the school saying "we don't think you would be happy here if we accepted you." Because, really, that's what they're saying. Unfortunately there are more people that would succeed in medical school than can be admitted. A rejection doesn't mean the school thinks you shouldn't be a physician. It just means that, from their perspective, there are places that would be a better fit for you to do your training.

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081479058
07-05-2012, 04:32 PM
Super happy - I just received an invitation!

Woodchuck
07-05-2012, 05:56 PM
I paid my application fee yesterday and received the confirmation email, but my online status is still "application fee NOT PAID". Should I call the office and find out what is wrong? Thanks!

NickNaylor
07-05-2012, 06:17 PM
I paid my application fee yesterday and received the confirmation email, but my online status is still "application fee NOT PAID". Should I call the office and find out what is wrong? Thanks!

No. I believe things like that are handled manually, so give it a couple of days before you call.

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NickNaylor
07-05-2012, 06:18 PM
Super happy - I just received an invitation!

Congrats!

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kettlecorn91
07-05-2012, 06:35 PM
AMCAS marked LORs as received on Tuesday (7/3), but UChicago's website still says they haven't got my LORs yet. Is this normal?

NickNaylor
07-05-2012, 06:48 PM
AMCAS marked LORs as received on Tuesday (7/3), but UChicago's website still says they haven't got my LORs yet. Is this normal?

Yes, see above.

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Frazier
07-06-2012, 08:58 AM
My secondary was submitted few days ago and the fee is showing as paid... but it says my Recs haven't been recieved.

Yet, they were automatically set up with AMCAS.

Is this to be expected?

MilkIsGood
07-06-2012, 09:06 AM
it takes at least a week for them to update the LOR stuff. They do it manually. I had to call last year to get it updated after I waited 1 week.

NickNaylor
07-06-2012, 09:16 AM
My secondary was submitted few days ago and the fee is showing as paid... but it says my Recs haven't been recieved.

Yet, they were automatically set up with AMCAS.

Is this to be expected?

Yes, see both Milk's post above and my previous post. These things are entered manually when they're received. Considering there's a huge number of apps that need to be processed, it will likely take a few days.

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xdajbq
07-06-2012, 09:31 AM
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NickNaylor
07-06-2012, 10:17 AM
Thanks for the continued updates.

I just submitted my AMCAS this week and got an [automatic] email inviting me to fill out the secondary (yesterday morning).
Should I wait until after my AMCAS is verified to submit the secondary application? I imagine that writing the essays, etc. will take a while to prepare, but at this point my application probably won't be verified for at least 4 weeks.

If you have received the invitation, I would go ahead and get started. I don't think there's any harm in it. People run into issues with this when they seek out the secondary and start working on it before they have received an official invitation. In your case you'll be fine.

jchen08
07-06-2012, 02:46 PM
If you have received the invitation, I would go ahead and get started. I don't think there's any harm in it. People run into issues with this when they seek out the secondary and start working on it before they have received an official invitation. In your case you'll be fine.

I also haven't been verified yet (and probably won't be until August) but I have my secondary essays done. Should I still submit my secondary app? Will they auto-reject me if I do?

NickNaylor
07-06-2012, 05:14 PM
I also haven't been verified yet (and probably won't be until August) but I have my secondary essays done. Should I still submit my secondary app? Will they auto-reject me if I do?

You quoted my answer...

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Fivo
07-06-2012, 07:50 PM
Lol wow, no disrespect but I find it funny as hell that people are getting secondaries, interviews, and rejections while I'm still waiting to get my mcat score back and my app verified lol. Sweet Jesus!

An MD Hopeful
07-07-2012, 04:12 PM
I have a question regarding LORs. I am submitting 4 individual letters, and this is what Pritzker's admissions website states regarding individual LORs:

"Please try to arrange to have all of your letters arrive at approximately the same time. Your application will be considered complete when your first three letters have arrived and will be reviewed by the admissions committee at that time. Receipt of additional letters of recommendation after that time will not re-open your file for a second review."

2 of my letters have been received by AMCAS, and I am waiting on the other 2, but I don't think that they will arrive at the same time...in order to avoid having the adcom review my application with the first 3 letters only, would it be okay if I only submit my secondary once all 4 of my letters are received? I figure that even when the first 3 letters have arrived, the adcom couldn't review the app without the secondary...so once I would submit my secondary, they will have all 4 letters. Does this plan seem okay? Or would they still consider the application complete once the first 3 letters have arrived, regardless of whether they have my secondary?

LittleDandelion
07-07-2012, 04:42 PM
Just got the interview invitation today. So excited!!!

NickNaylor
07-07-2012, 07:54 PM
I have a question regarding LORs. I am submitting 4 individual letters, and this is what Pritzker's admissions website states regarding individual LORs:

"Please try to arrange to have all of your letters arrive at approximately the same time. Your application will be considered complete when your first three letters have arrived and will be reviewed by the admissions committee at that time. Receipt of additional letters of recommendation after that time will not re-open your file for a second review."

2 of my letters have been received by AMCAS, and I am waiting on the other 2, but I don't think that they will arrive at the same time...in order to avoid having the adcom review my application with the first 3 letters only, would it be okay if I only submit my secondary once all 4 of my letters are received? I figure that even when the first 3 letters have arrived, the adcom couldn't review the app without the secondary...so once I would submit my secondary, they will have all 4 letters. Does this plan seem okay? Or would they still consider the application complete once the first 3 letters have arrived, regardless of whether they have my secondary?

I'm really not sure, but I would just wait to submit the secondary until you receive the letters just to be on the safe side.

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NickNaylor
07-07-2012, 07:55 PM
Just got the interview invitation today. So excited!!!

Congrats!

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xroc
07-08-2012, 10:22 AM
Quick question ... I paid yesterday after submitting my secondary and got a receipt for payment, yet when I access the online portal it still says that my secondary is not yet complete and that the application fee is not yet paid.

Does it take a few days for this to process? (Just wondering bc the other schools that I submitted payment for had pretty much instant verification of payment)

An MD Hopeful
07-08-2012, 10:43 AM
I'm really not sure, but I would just wait to submit the secondary until you receive the letters just to be on the safe side.

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Ok, thank you! I will do what you're suggesting.

NickNaylor
07-08-2012, 01:14 PM
Quick question ... I paid yesterday after submitting my secondary and got a receipt for payment, yet when I access the online portal it still says that my secondary is not yet complete and that the application fee is not yet paid.

Does it take a few days for this to process? (Just wondering bc the other schools that I submitted payment for had pretty much instant verification of payment)

Please see above. In short, yes.

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Ssina
07-08-2012, 04:57 PM
Quick question ... I paid yesterday after submitting my secondary and got a receipt for payment, yet when I access the online portal it still says that my secondary is not yet complete and that the application fee is not yet paid.

Does it take a few days for this to process? (Just wondering bc the other schools that I submitted payment for had pretty much instant verification of payment)

I also submitted mine yesterday and if i remember correctly it said that they'll charge me on Monday (tomorrow)... so I think that's probably why!

NickNaylor
07-08-2012, 05:01 PM
I also submitted mine yesterday and if i remember correctly it said that they'll charge me on Monday (tomorrow)... so I think that's probably why!

Note that even when the fee is charged, it might be a few days before the status updates on your portal.

NickNaylor
07-09-2012, 05:43 AM
A quick note to those invited to interview thus far (and everyone in general).

Pritzker has a student hosting program which you likely heard/will hear about in your interview invitation e-mail. We strongly encourage you to take advantage of that opportunity! It's a great way to save money and, perhaps more importantly, learn about the school from the perspective of a student. As one of the hosting coordinators (at least until the incoming first year class takes over), please feel free to PM me if you run into any problems with getting a host. We're still getting everything set up, but you should start receiving confirmations from the coordinators relatively shortly.

Let me know if you have any questions about hosting or anything else. Hope the applications are going well!

ashylarry23
07-09-2012, 08:20 AM
hey i got the email about the twitter chat with pritzker admins but i dont know what it is. is it a chatroom or a forum like sdn

NickNaylor
07-09-2012, 09:18 AM
hey i got the email about the twitter chat with pritzker admins but i dont know what it is. is it a chatroom or a forum like sdn

Twitter chats are done using Twitter. You'll (probably) need an account in order to participate.

ceja
07-09-2012, 10:31 AM
My undergraduate university is about 40 minutes away, so I could easily travel to the interview the day of. But, I like the idea of staying with a med student and hearing about UChicago from his/her perspective. Would it look bad if I applied for the student host even though I technically don't need it?

NickNaylor
07-09-2012, 10:42 AM
My undergraduate university is about 40 minutes away, so I could easily travel to the interview the day of. But, I like the idea of staying with a med student and hearing about UChicago from his/her perspective. Would it look bad if I applied for the student host even though I technically don't need it?

No - no one will care or really even know that you request a host beyond the hosting coordinators (which are students). However if you want to meet with someone but don't want to stay the night, I would submit the request form and make a note saying that you just want to meet with someone to talk about the school. I'm sure someone would be happy to meet you around campus to chat.

lostintranscrip
07-09-2012, 01:41 PM
I submitted the secondary and payment on 7/3 and just checked the status page today-- they are both marked as received.

In case people are still worried.

kettlecorn91
07-09-2012, 04:02 PM
Interview Invite @ 2pm!! completed on 7/5

NickNaylor
07-09-2012, 04:33 PM
Interview Invite @ 2pm!! completed on 7/5

Congrats!

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GooseWing
07-09-2012, 04:50 PM
Rejected. Oh well. Best of luck to everyone else!

NickNaylor
07-09-2012, 05:40 PM
Rejected. Oh well. Best of luck to everyone else!

Best of luck in your cycle.

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premed414
07-09-2012, 06:21 PM
Just checked the site again: "Application Held for Later Review: Your application has been placed on hold for further review later in the application process. In the meantime we encourage you to keep us informed by email of new academic and extracurricular accomplishments."

I'm guessing this isn't great news, but what does it really mean?

Soapybubbles
07-09-2012, 11:45 PM
Me too. From last year's thread 200 - 300 get held for later review in Dec. with 10-15% getting interviews. Not very good odds. (although I don't know how true this is)

NickNaylor
07-10-2012, 04:56 AM
Just checked the site again: "Application Held for Later Review: Your application has been placed on hold for further review later in the application process. In the meantime we encourage you to keep us informed by email of new academic and extracurricular accomplishments."

I'm guessing this isn't great news, but what does it really mean?

It essentially means that your application will be re-reviewed later on in the cycle. It's essentially a delayed decision: you aren't invited for now, but you might be in the future.

Edit: wanted to add that this is by no means a death sentence. I think something like 10-20% of interviews are given to people that are initially held for review, though I could be wrong there.

mohad
07-10-2012, 07:19 AM
For the "Write about a challenge" prompt, I was thinking about a moral/personal struggle I had, but I feel like the part where "I learned from the experience" is really short. Basically I just talked with someoen about my issue, and read a bit of the Quran, and went about my way.

Basically, I don't drink cause of my religion, and I have been friends with people that drink copious amounts and that's what they did, and so many times I've wanted to just say "screw it" and drunk alcohol, but I also wanted to follow my religion. I talked with a friend in the same situation, and he also said it was tough for him too, and he said either I stop hanging out with them in those situations and I'll drift apart from them or I go to parties and whatnot with them with the risk of me doing something I dont want to do.

I know this topic may seem trivial, but to me, I felt it was important because faith is quite important in my life (yes, I know it is 2012) and I didn't want to be a person that picks and chooses parts of religion that are convenient for my lifestyle. Any opinions?

NickNaylor
07-10-2012, 07:31 AM
For the "Write about a challenge" prompt, I was thinking about a moral/personal struggle I had, but I feel like the part where "I learned from the experience" is really short. Basically I just talked with someoen about my issue, and read a bit of the Quran, and went about my way.

Basically, I don't drink cause of my religion, and I have been friends with people that drink copious amounts and that's what they did, and so many times I've wanted to just say "screw it" and drunk alcohol, but I also wanted to follow my religion. I talked with a friend in the same situation, and he also said it was tough for him too, and he said either I stop hanging out with them in those situations and I'll drift apart from them or I go to parties and whatnot with them with the risk of me doing something I dont want to do.

I know this topic may seem trivial, but to me, I felt it was important because faith is quite important in my life (yes, I know it is 2012) and I didn't want to be a person that picks and chooses parts of religion that are convenient for my lifestyle. Any opinions?

As long as you can make something that is "seemingly trivial" appear relevant and meaningful, then I think it's worth writing about. It's all about execution.

mohad
07-10-2012, 11:26 AM
Is it ok to go over the word limit as well? I'm trying to cut back on setnences, but I'm probably going to be 100 or so words over the 400 limit...

riddler
07-10-2012, 11:28 AM
Is it ok to go over the word limit as well? I'm trying to cut back on setnences, but I'm probably going to be 100 or so words over the 400 limit...

I think 100 words over might be a little too much. Less than 20 words over seems okay, though.

carramrod06
07-10-2012, 11:32 AM
Interview invite :D Was complete a few days ago :D so excited to visit!

NickNaylor
07-10-2012, 11:58 AM
Is it ok to go over the word limit as well? I'm trying to cut back on setnences, but I'm probably going to be 100 or so words over the 400 limit...

Going over is fine. I'm not sure I would break the limit by 25%, but, as riddler mentioned, I don't think 50 or less words over is a big deal. Try and respect the word limit, but if you can't, you can't.

NickNaylor
07-10-2012, 11:58 AM
Interview invite :D Was complete a few days ago :D so excited to visit!

Congratulations! We look forward to welcoming you.

dwills
07-10-2012, 12:03 PM
Completed on 6/8 and hoping to here back soon.

However i was just editing my essay i submitted to Pritzker for another secondary and noticed a small but noticeable typo in one of my essays that i skipped over somehow :confused:

Hope it doesn't end up being a big deal :laugh:

Invin22
07-10-2012, 12:17 PM
For the "Write about a challenge" prompt, I was thinking about a moral/personal struggle I had, but I feel like the part where "I learned from the experience" is really short. Basically I just talked with someoen about my issue, and read a bit of the Quran, and went about my way.

Basically, I don't drink cause of my religion, and I have been friends with people that drink copious amounts and that's what they did, and so many times I've wanted to just say "screw it" and drunk alcohol, but I also wanted to follow my religion. I talked with a friend in the same situation, and he also said it was tough for him too, and he said either I stop hanging out with them in those situations and I'll drift apart from them or I go to parties and whatnot with them with the risk of me doing something I dont want to do.

I know this topic may seem trivial, but to me, I felt it was important because faith is quite important in my life (yes, I know it is 2012) and I didn't want to be a person that picks and chooses parts of religion that are convenient for my lifestyle. Any opinions?

It's all about how you spin it. The essay topic could be very appropriate if you learned something about yourself or what's important to you through the experience.

I'd say the word limit is there to help you--essays tend to be more memorable and moving when they are brief.

mohad
07-10-2012, 12:27 PM
Yeah, I realized I had a ton of fluff after rereading it, so I'm just cutting out more words when possible to make it more succinct. It's like 50 over now, but I'm going to try and get it to 20.

Irish Football
07-10-2012, 09:27 PM
Submitted my secondary today. My new MCAT scores don't come in until August 7th so at least I'll have a month of false hope before my rejection email. But still holding on to a glimmer of hope!

Please Pritzker, I believe in miracles!!!!!!!

Woodchuck
07-11-2012, 09:37 PM
Got invitation today, super excited!!

I have a lab meeting scheduled the day after the interview so I want to go back in the evening. The last flight (with reasonable price) is 7pm from Midway. Would it be too rush if I take that flight? Thanks!

soccer1021
07-11-2012, 10:18 PM
I think 7pm is perfect. They say just to allow an hour for Midway and to plan to be on campus until 5pm, so that gets you there in time for your flight. Good luck with your interview!

Slurrppee21
07-12-2012, 01:56 AM
Chicago sends updates via email for things? Or do I have to login to see if my interview invite is up? I submitted my secondary 7/5

NickNaylor
07-12-2012, 05:45 AM
Got invitation today, super excited!!

I have a lab meeting scheduled the day after the interview so I want to go back in the evening. The last flight (with reasonable price) is 7pm from Midway. Would it be too rush if I take that flight? Thanks!

You'll have plenty of time. The interview day effectively ends when your last interview is over (which will vary from person to person by a bit). I would expect to be done by 3pm or so, and a ride to Midway would take an hour at most (i.e., using the CTA).

Congratulations!

NickNaylor
07-12-2012, 05:45 AM
Chicago sends updates via email for things? Or do I have to login to see if my interview invite is up? I submitted my secondary 7/5

You should receive an e-mail and your status on the portal will be updated if anything changes.

kathmd
07-12-2012, 06:25 AM
Got an interview invite yesterday! Came via email. Looks like the dates offered are going to be Tuesdays and Thursdays starting the week of August 20. Can't wait!

NickNaylor
07-12-2012, 07:10 AM
Got an interview invite yesterday! Came via email. Looks like the dates offered are going to be Tuesdays and Thursdays starting the week of August 20. Can't wait!

Unless they're changing things up there are also usually interviews on Mondays. I haven't heard anything suggesting they'd be getting rid of that day, though they might not start with Mondays right away.

And congrats!

TheKDizzle
07-12-2012, 07:19 AM
Got an interview invite yesterday! Came via email. Looks like the dates offered are going to be Tuesdays and Thursdays starting the week of August 20. Can't wait!

Mondays were also available when I signed up.

Congratulations!

topper34
07-12-2012, 01:29 PM
test

seahawks2013
07-12-2012, 01:38 PM
Just got an email from Chicago. DENIED. Secondary was submitted on 7/6

stats: 37Q, 3.95 sgpa, 3.9 cum

i guess i wasn't what they're looking for, good luck to all

damn! sorry bro, good luck on the other schools man

dwills
07-12-2012, 01:43 PM
Rejected. Oh well, i should've known i didn't have a shot here :laugh:

Best of luck to everyone else applying here!

imapremed
07-13-2012, 09:23 AM
would a current pritzker student care to help me out and read my two prtizker responses? i would greatly appreciate it. i have been holding this essay for a little over a week just to make it perfect.

thanks!

Hypnotoad
07-13-2012, 02:59 PM
Just got an interview invite!!! SO EXCITED!!!! MY TOP CHOICE

Invin22
07-13-2012, 03:06 PM
Just got an interview invite!!! SO EXCITED!!!! MY TOP CHOICE

awesome :cool:

emystar
07-13-2012, 04:40 PM
Just got an interview invite!!! SO EXCITED!!!! MY TOP CHOICE

Congrats! When were you complete?

Luvahgilahsa
07-13-2012, 04:48 PM
Nick, does Pritzker screen applicants with subscores below an 8 in a section?

No they don't, I got a secondary and my MCAT scores wasn't even out yet.

Hypnotoad
07-13-2012, 05:16 PM
Congrats! When were you complete?

Earlier today….lol

NickNaylor
07-13-2012, 05:27 PM
Just got an interview invite!!! SO EXCITED!!!! MY TOP CHOICE

Congrats!

(sent from my phone)

Propylene
07-14-2012, 11:46 AM
Just got my interview invite! This is my first one, I'm so excited! Hopefully I'll see some of you there!!

Invin22
07-14-2012, 05:02 PM
Just got my interview invite! This is my first one, I'm so excited! Hopefully I'll see some of you there!!

nice, see you soon! :thumbup:

NCPremed
07-14-2012, 09:55 PM
ZING...just got rejected. :-( This was quite a reach school for me though. Submitted secondary on 7/11. My stats:

MCAT: 33R
BCPM GPA: 3.74
Total GPA: 3.80

Despite the sting of rejection, I do appreciate Pritzker's quick turnaround time...wish other schools would follow the example and avoid "stringing us along" for six months or more. NickNaylor, thank you for your awesome feedback. Keep fighting the good fight everyone!

*resigned, heroic salute*

An MD Hopeful
07-14-2012, 09:58 PM
:eek: Yikes! I keep seeing people with stats very close to mine getting rejected. I'm really scared now! Still need to submit my secondary too! D:

NCPremed
07-14-2012, 10:07 PM
:eek: Yikes! I keep seeing people with stats very close to mine getting rejected. I'm really scared now! Still need to submit my secondary too! D:

I guess your best bet is to do a really good job with the secondary, although that's what I did and it didn't seem to work haha. Good luck!

An MD Hopeful
07-14-2012, 10:27 PM
I guess your best bet is to do a really good job with the secondary, although that's what I did and it didn't seem to work haha. Good luck!

Sorry about the rejection. I hope you have better luck with other schools!

Would you mind telling me your MCAT breakdown by section? I understand if you prefer not to.

NCPremed
07-14-2012, 10:40 PM
Sorry about the rejection. I hope you have better luck with other schools!

Would you mind telling me your MCAT breakdown by section? I understand if you prefer not to.

Nahhhh, I don't mind. My BS score is killing me, I think. I got 12-PS, 11-VR, and 10-BS. R on the writing sample. The 10 in BS would have been super low for Prizker. Ah well. Any interview invitees want to share their stats?

NickNaylor
07-15-2012, 03:27 AM
While it can be tempting to compare each other using strictly numbers, keep in mind that that's only one aspect of the application that gets evaluated. I think our class had a MCAT score range of mid to upper 20s all the way up to 42-43.

Best of luck to those rejected.

(sent from my phone)

Ellie Arroway
07-15-2012, 03:03 PM
Feeling excited about this school! It's a reach considering my "lowly" 3.8/34 & limited research. The challenge essay is freaking me out a little. I have a lot of challenging stuff in my life that would probably impress judges who were looking for "oh wow you had a hard life" stories, but I feel like my coping strategies for those things were not always particularly healthy or effective.

Since I visit some of my more interesting life-circumstances in my PS & the diversity section, I think my challenge essay is going to be about getting over math anxiety and acing trig, calc, & physics. Which sounds really mundane, but I used a lot of really effective coping strategies to get through something that was really hard for me. But I can't help but think that this is a really annoying essay subject that they have read too often.

matanp
07-16-2012, 05:38 AM
question - my amcas app was only verified 6/22, and has not been reviewed yet. can i still submit my UChicago app after i finish my essays even though it doesn't see my secondaries? I have a similar issue with BU, and they said I won't be able to send in my app until my MCAT scores and letters show up on their secondary.

Thanks for your help.

NickNaylor
07-16-2012, 05:45 AM
question - my amcas app was only verified 6/22, and has not been reviewed yet. can i still submit my UChicago app after i finish my essays even though it doesn't see my secondaries? I have a similar issue with BU, and they said I won't be able to send in my app until my MCAT scores and letters show up on their secondary.

Thanks for your help.

Not sure that I understand your question. If you have been officially invited to complete the secondary, you may do so without any concerns. If you haven't gotten the e-mail inviting you to do the secondary, wait until you receive it. Your app won't be reviewed until all parts of it are present; it doesn't matter in what order they're received.

matanp
07-16-2012, 05:58 AM
i was invited to complete the secondary. my question was, if i'm done with my app, but my AMCAS primary hasn't been reviewed yet, can i still send the seconary in?

Irish Football
07-16-2012, 06:00 AM
i was invited to complete the secondary. my question was, if i'm done with my app, but my AMCAS primary hasn't been reviewed yet, can i still send the seconary in?

You said above your primary app was verified, but then you said that it hasn't been reviewed yet. Which is it?

matanp
07-16-2012, 06:11 AM
my bad didn't mean verified. meant that it's it's in line to be reviewed since 6/22

NickNaylor
07-16-2012, 06:14 AM
i was invited to complete the secondary. my question was, if i'm done with my app, but my AMCAS primary hasn't been reviewed yet, can i still send the seconary in?

Yes, as long as you have received the invitation you can submit the secondary. However your app won't be reviewed until all components (primary + secondary + fee + MCAT + LORs) are received by the office.

trigonometry
07-16-2012, 06:24 AM
Yes, as long as you have received the invitation you can submit the secondary. However your app won't be reviewed until all components (primary + secondary + fee + MCAT + LORs) are received by the office.
My school submits a committee letter packet which isn't sent until around the end of August. Is there any advantage for me to submit my secondary now, since without my LoRs my application will still be considered incomplete?

NickNaylor
07-16-2012, 06:43 AM
My school submits a committee letter packet which isn't sent until around the end of August. Is there any advantage for me to submit my secondary now, since without my LoRs my application will still be considered incomplete?

I would say no. That said, don't let the app languish - work on it and try and get it in ASAP. However the limiting step here will obviously be the LOR.

adamch2009
07-16-2012, 03:04 PM
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sscjlfc12
07-16-2012, 03:17 PM
Interview Invite! Very excited!!

NickNaylor
07-16-2012, 03:24 PM
Has anyone else had trouble with registering for the online secondary application? I received an invitation 7/5, but still can't get past the credentials check (AAMC ID, Last name, DOB, Email). I fill out my information, hit continue, and the page refreshes... I've tried on Chrome, IE, and Nightly (Firefox) and double-checked all of my information with AMCAS and everything is correct <.<

Call the admissions office - they can help you out.

(sent from my phone)

NickNaylor
07-16-2012, 03:24 PM
Interview Invite! Very excited!!

Congrats!

(sent from my phone)

emystar
07-16-2012, 03:31 PM
Interview Invite! Very excited!!

Congrats! When did you submit your secondary? I submitted last Tuesday so based on how fast they were going earlier I had hoped to hear one way or another by now. Guess I'm just not being patient enough.

sscjlfc12
07-16-2012, 04:53 PM
Congrats! When did you submit your secondary? I submitted last Tuesday so based on how fast they were going earlier I had hoped to hear one way or another by now. Guess I'm just not being patient enough.

Thanks! Submitted my secondary last Thursday. Good luck to you! :luck:

earf
07-16-2012, 06:46 PM
i was invited to complete the secondary. my question was, if i'm done with my app, but my AMCAS primary hasn't been reviewed yet, can i still send the seconary in?

Yep! I asked on twitter and this is what they said:

Me: "Should I submit my secondary application if completed, but my primary AMCAS application has been submitted, yet not verified?"
Them: "Go ahead & submit your secondary; that way you will advance straight to our screening queue once you are verified."

PNW
07-17-2012, 02:54 AM
Can somebody comment: when is the interview period for Pritzker and how flexible are the interview dates once an offer to interview has been given? I am living abroad now and trying to book my ticket back for interviews. To be clear, I haven't submitted my complete app yet -- but ticket prices go up quickly, so trying to book early, just in case I'm lucky enough to get an interview. Thanks.

NickNaylor
07-17-2012, 03:13 AM
Can somebody comment: when is the interview period for Pritzker and how flexible are the interview dates once an offer to interview has been given? I am living abroad now and trying to book my ticket back for interviews. To be clear, I haven't submitted my complete app yet -- but ticket prices go up quickly, so trying to book early, just in case I'm lucky enough to get an interview. Thanks.

Interviews run from late August to January or February. I'm not sure how far in advance you can sign up using the secondary app (I think only dates in the next few weeks are available). I would recommend emailing the admissions office to set up a later date if you need to.

(sent from my phone)

douladoc
07-17-2012, 11:50 AM
Interview invite earlier today!!! Very excited!! Quick question for those of you who know Chicago. It looks like the options I have for return flights all leave from O'hare. Would a 7:10pm return flight be cutting it too close? Possible with a taxi?
Thanks!

NickNaylor
07-17-2012, 12:08 PM
Interview invite earlier today!!! Very excited!! Quick question for those of you who know Chicago. It looks like the options I have for return flights all leave from O'hare. Would a 7:10pm return flight be cutting it too close? Possible with a taxi?
Thanks!

Congrats! You'll be fine IMO (taxi or CTA).

mnbmen
07-17-2012, 12:17 PM
Interview invite!!! Submitted 7/12

snparekh
07-17-2012, 09:31 PM
How recommended is it to answer the optional "additional info" question? I'm not sure what to write about, and today marks the 2 week deadline for me. Would love any advice!

bishu
07-17-2012, 09:48 PM
Sorry if I missed it, but has anyone had their online status change to "Application Held for Later Review"? It also says:

Your application has been placed on hold for further review later in the application process. In the meantime we encourage you to keep us informed by email of new academic and extracurricular accomplishments.

NickNaylor
07-18-2012, 03:25 AM
How recommended is it to answer the optional "additional info" question? I'm not sure what to write about, and today marks the 2 week deadline for me. Would love any advice!

I didn't have this question when I applied, but my recommendation would be to answer it only if you have something substantive to say. Personally I wouldn't miss out on an opportunity to reveal more about myself, but you shouldn't put words on the page just to put words on the page. If there's truly nothing else you can talk about, then leave it blank. If there's something else you'd like to mention or expand upon, though, I would suggest doing so.

NickNaylor
07-18-2012, 03:27 AM
Sorry if I missed it, but has anyone had their online status change to "Application Held for Later Review"? It also says:

Your application has been placed on hold for further review later in the application process. In the meantime we encourage you to keep us informed by email of new academic and extracurricular accomplishments.

This is essentially a deferred decision: you're not being rejected, but you aren't getting invited to interview for now; you will continue to be evaluated with other applicants in the future. A relatively large portion of interview invites come from people that get a hold status, so I would encourage you to stay involved in the process if Pritzker is one of your top choices. While it of course varies, you likely won't hear much until later on in the cycle (e.g., November or December).

NickNaylor
07-18-2012, 05:22 AM
For anyone having problems with the secondary, from now on you should contact Dr. Charles Todd at the admissions office - he'll be able to help you with your secondary. His e-mail is ctodd[TAKETHISOUT]@bsd.uchicago.edu, and his direct phone number is (773) 834-0704 (both are available on the admissions website).

Good luck!

Ellie Arroway
07-18-2012, 12:39 PM
How recommended is it to answer the optional "additional info" question? I'm not sure what to write about, and today marks the 2 week deadline for me. Would love any advice!

Personally, I am using it to tell them why I am not using my schools' committee letter service (I recently transferred and there is a credit minimum at this school to get the letter). That info just didn't fit anywhere else, so this seemed like the right place for it.

CsHead
07-18-2012, 12:42 PM
Personally, I am using it to tell them why I am not using my schools' committee letter service (I recently transferred and there is a credit minimum at this school to get the letter). That info just didn't fit anywhere else, so this seemed like the right place for it.

I might be remembering another school, but there was a box for that dawg.

Ellie Arroway
07-18-2012, 02:02 PM
Maybe there is then. I've been writing my secondary in word and haven't looked at the website for a bit. I might have been thinking of a different secondary that didn't have a box.

CsHead
07-18-2012, 03:23 PM
Maybe there is then. I've been writing my secondary in word and haven't looked at the website for a bit. I might have been thinking of a different secondary that didn't have a box.

There's a box. By default, the answer is no. Make sure you change it :thumbup:

emystar
07-18-2012, 03:38 PM
My application status has been "complete" and says that it has been sent to the committee for review for a week now. Does anyone know if the status changes to "under review" before you get a decision? Just starting to wonder when I'm going to hear back since it seems like other people are hearing back more quickly.

NewYorker9
07-18-2012, 05:28 PM
Maybe there is then. I've been writing my secondary in word and haven't looked at the website for a bit. I might have been thinking of a different secondary that didn't have a box.

there is definitely a box for it, I just wanted to reinforce this so hopefully you can still utilize that

msf2012
07-18-2012, 05:43 PM
For those of you with complete applications, how long did it take for your letters to be updated? My letters are all ready to go in AMCAS, but haven't been updated to my application yet and I submitted last Friday. :/

emystar
07-18-2012, 05:58 PM
For those of you with complete applications, how long did it take for your letters to be updated? My letters are all ready to go in AMCAS, but haven't been updated to my application yet and I submitted last Friday. :/


Seems like maybe the admissions office is slowing down a little bit now that they're getting more apps in. My AMCAS was verified last Monday, submitted my secondary on Tuesday, and they updated everything including letters on Wednesday. Still I would probably call if it's not updated on Friday though.

NickNaylor
07-18-2012, 05:58 PM
For those of you with complete applications, how long did it take for your letters to be updated? My letters are all ready to go in AMCAS, but haven't been updated to my application yet and I submitted last Friday. :/

I would call the office if they haven't been marked as received by this coming Friday.

(sent from my phone)

bishu
07-18-2012, 06:12 PM
This is essentially a deferred decision: you're not being rejected, but you aren't getting invited to interview for now; you will continue to be evaluated with other applicants in the future. A relatively large portion of interview invites come from people that get a hold status, so I would encourage you to stay involved in the process if Pritzker is one of your top choices. While it of course varies, you likely won't hear much until later on in the cycle (e.g., November or December).

I will definitely do that. I suppose it's better to be in limbo than straight up rejected. Thanks for the information; you are awesome!

ceja
07-18-2012, 06:34 PM
So I submitted my AMCAS on 7/7 and got my UChicago secondary on 7/9. I know a lot of people have been talking about the "2 week" guideline, but since my AMCAS won't get verified until August do you think it would look bad if I just waited till my AMCAS verification to submit my secondary?

earf
07-18-2012, 07:00 PM
So I submitted my AMCAS on 7/7 and got my UChicago secondary on 7/9. I know a lot of people have been talking about the "2 week" guideline, but since my AMCAS won't get verified until August do you think it would look bad if I just waited till my AMCAS verification to submit my secondary?

Here's a similar question I asked them on Twitter:

Me: "Should I submit my secondary application if completed, but my primary AMCAS application has been submitted, yet not verified?"
Them: "Go ahead & submit your secondary; that way you will advance straight to our screening queue once you are verified."

NickNaylor
07-18-2012, 07:05 PM
So I submitted my AMCAS on 7/7 and got my UChicago secondary on 7/9. I know a lot of people have been talking about the "2 week" guideline, but since my AMCAS won't get verified until August do you think it would look bad if I just waited till my AMCAS verification to submit my secondary?

No, it won't. It took me a month to turn in my secondary, and here I am.

(sent from my phone)

ksl57
07-19-2012, 02:18 PM
I took a health leave of absence during my sophomore Spring semester, and I mentioned in my AMCAS PS about how I learned from it, and how it inspired me to pursue medicine. I also mentioned it for the 2nd essay when they ask for any challenging obstacles we faced. But I elaborated on it from a different perspective, so it doesn't seem redundant.

Should I use the additional info to mention it again, maybe specifically what I did on my time off? Or would that be to much?

kestralray
07-19-2012, 02:43 PM
No, it won't. It took me a month to turn in my secondary, and here I am.

(sent from my phone)

Thanks for the input. I've been sitting on a few secondaries because I'm not satisfied with my essays and have been worried that the delay is hurting me.

NickNaylor
07-19-2012, 03:40 PM
Thanks for the input. I've been sitting on a few secondaries because I'm not satisfied with my essays and have been worried that the delay is hurting me.

This is the right way of approaching it IMO. Obviously don't take a long time for no reason, but I think quality is far more important than speed here.

(sent from my phone)

NickNaylor
07-19-2012, 03:42 PM
I took a health leave of absence during my sophomore Spring semester, and I mentioned in my AMCAS PS about how I learned from it, and how it inspired me to pursue medicine. I also mentioned it for the 2nd essay when they ask for any challenging obstacles we faced. But I elaborated on it from a different perspective, so it doesn't seem redundant.

Should I use the additional info to mention it again, maybe specifically what I did on my time off? Or would that be to much?

Only you can know for sure as you're the only one that can read the essays, but mentioning something three times in your app is a bit overkill. If it's something you can talk about substantively in all three places, then it might be a good thing to do. Just be weary of repeating the same information.

(sent from my phone)

Cynthia Gomez
07-19-2012, 06:03 PM
Well now Im freaking out. I was a part time student my last year of school because I was taking care of a family member. I mentioned it on primary during my work/activity section, believe me it made sense. Mention that I took care of the person in my personal statement, but not that I was part time student. But I think my committee letter addressed it good enough, not sure since I cant read it. I didnt want to add it on the additional essay section, I thought it would be overkill for me or make me look bad. Now Im think I should have addressed it there also!

ksl57
07-19-2012, 08:09 PM
Only you can know for sure as you're the only one that can read the essays, but mentioning something three times in your app is a bit overkill. If it's something you can talk about substantively in all three places, then it might be a good thing to do. Just be weary of repeating the same information.

(sent from my phone)

Hmm that seems logical enough. Mentioning it in my additional info might make it sound like I'm desperate to use my health leave as an advantage...

Thanks!

AllDay24
07-19-2012, 09:24 PM
I have decided to submit an application to the Nick Naylor School of Medicine at the University of Chicago.

NickNaylor
07-20-2012, 03:55 AM
I have decided to submit an application to the Nick Naylor School of Medicine at the University of Chicago.

Unfortunately I don't have the millions of dollars necessary for a naming gift. ;)

ksl57
07-20-2012, 05:10 AM
Can I use the additional info section to talk about what I am going to do next year / what I am doing over the summer? Next semester I will be a TA for 3 classes among other things, and over the summer I picked up some more hospital volunteer work. Or do they ask for that in the interview?

NickNaylor
07-20-2012, 06:09 AM
Can I use the additional info section to talk about what I am going to do next year / what I am doing over the summer? Next semester I will be a TA for 3 classes among other things, and over the summer I picked up some more hospital volunteer work. Or do they ask for that in the interview?

In general, I would approach this question as an opportunity to provide information that you think is important that you weren't able to discuss elsewhere. Whether or not this meets that definition is up to you.

(sent from my phone)

msf2012
07-20-2012, 11:40 AM
Hmm for some reason, U Chicago hasn't received my letters from AMCAS, even though I submitted last Friday and assigned letters at least three weeks ago. The admissions office said that sometimes it takes AMCAS a while to send out the letters, but is there anything else I can do about this?

NickNaylor
07-20-2012, 11:43 AM
Hmm for some reason, U Chicago hasn't received my letters from AMCAS, even though I submitted last Friday and assigned letters at least three weeks ago. The admissions office said that sometimes it takes AMCAS a while to send out the letters, but is there anything else I can do about this?

Probably not, but you could call AMACAS if you just want to do something.

(sent from my phone)

SoulinNeed
07-20-2012, 12:30 PM
How good of a chance do we have if we interview?

AllDay24
07-20-2012, 05:41 PM
Hey Nick, I know from your MD Apps that you worked toward losing weight and running marathons. Would that type of sports/exercise essay suffice for a challenge essay, or would it seem too frivolous? I have asked this question on a thread on the regular pre-allo thread, but I know you're part of the adcom at Pritzker so I value your input. Thanks.

NickNaylor
07-20-2012, 08:49 PM
Hey Nick, I know from your MD Apps that you worked toward losing weight and running marathons. Would that type of sports/exercise essay suffice for a challenge essay, or would it seem too frivolous? I have asked this question on a thread on the regular pre-allo thread, but I know you're part of the adcom at Pritzker so I value your input. Thanks.

That experience is actually what I discussed in the challenge essay, so I think it's perfectly appropriate.

(sent from my phone)

Ellie Arroway
07-22-2012, 09:50 AM
How good of a chance do we have if we interview?

Depends whether you ace or bomb your interviews :D
I don't think it adheres to standard rules of probability.

NewYorker9
07-22-2012, 11:11 AM
received an interview invite here a few days ago, it's fair to say I'm definitely excited to see the school and the city of Chicago

NickNaylor
07-22-2012, 11:46 AM
How good of a chance do we have if we interview?

I believe roughly a quarter to a third of interviewed applicants are accepted.

(sent from my phone)

Shockwave456
07-22-2012, 02:10 PM
Anyone else having trouble accessing the secondary today? It's taking a really long time to load.

MilkIsGood
07-22-2012, 02:26 PM
How good of a chance do we have if we interview?

US News says 252/625

SoulinNeed
07-22-2012, 02:29 PM
US News says 252/625
That's forty percent. Not bad, right?

pr2
07-22-2012, 02:30 PM
Each class size is only 88 students though...

SoulinNeed
07-22-2012, 02:35 PM
Each class size is only 88 students though...
So? The important number is how many people they accept, not how many actually matriculate.

TheKDizzle
07-22-2012, 02:37 PM
Each class size is only 88 students though...

That implies that Chicago's yield is about 88/252 or ~35%, which is probably about right. I remember seeing Yale's yield hovering around 40%.

NickNaylor
07-22-2012, 02:38 PM
Each class size is only 88 students though...

Not everyone that's accepted decides to come. ;) It's pretty standard that schools will accept 2-3X the number of applicants they plan to enroll. That said, no one was accepted off of the waitlist this past year, so it's possible that the number of accepted applicants will go down. That's all speculation, though.

(sent from my phone)

thelight02
07-22-2012, 02:50 PM
Nick, can you comment on health disparities research at Pritzker? That's my focus, and i feel like pritzker is unreal compared to other schools in that department. I literally feel like this school was made for me!

NickNaylor
07-22-2012, 02:55 PM
Nick, can you comment on health disparities research at Pritzker? That's my focus, and i feel like pritzker is unreal compared to other schools in that department. I literally feel like this school was made for me!

We have an entire course (6 or so weeks) dedicated to healthcare disparities, which is both unique among medical schools as far as I know and speaks to the genuine commitment the institution places on attempting to improve those problems. I'm not all that familiar with what research goes on as it's not an area of interest for me, but one of the scholarship and discovery tracks (community health) would include this area.

(sent from my phone)

thelight02
07-22-2012, 02:56 PM
can you elaborate on "scholarship and discovery" tracks?

NickNaylor
07-22-2012, 03:12 PM
can you elaborate on "scholarship and discovery" tracks?

Scholarship and discovery is the research component of the curriculum. It essentially requires you to complete a "scholarly project" over the course of your four years at Pritzker. "Scholarly project" is a very broad term that isn't as scary as it sounds - it's nothing like an undergraduate thesis or anything like that. There are five tracks: basic science, community health, global health, quality and safety, and medical education (I think). You essentially chose a track sometime in your second year. Many people use/expand on the project they complete during the Summer Research Project after first year as their scholarly project, but that's by no means necessary.

Roughly speaking, the first year is spent learning about the different tracks and trying to figure out which track(s) you might be interested in. During second year you formally commit to a track and may begin working on (or continuing) the project. Not much gets done during third year. During fourth year, you complete the project (if necessary) and then compile and present the work. In general the project is intended to be a way for you to explore a topic of interest and enrich your education rather than be a huge burden to bear.

If you have any other questions, I would encourage you to check out the website as there's tons of information about the program and various tracks.

(sent from my phone)

SoulinNeed
07-22-2012, 03:48 PM
Anyone have any idea how many applications the school receives?

NickNaylor
07-22-2012, 04:19 PM
Anyone have any idea how many applications the school receives?

I believe in the range of 4000-5000.

(sent from my phone)

emystar
07-23-2012, 08:39 AM
Has anyone waited close to two weeks or more to hear back from this school after submitting the secondary?

NickNaylor- Any insight into why some apps take longer than others to review? My AMCAS was only verified the day before I submitted the secondary. Could this have anything to do with it?

NickNaylor
07-23-2012, 08:45 AM
Has anyone waited close to two weeks or more to hear back from this school after submitting the secondary?

NickNaylor- Any insight into why some apps take longer than others to review? My AMCAS was only verified the day before I submitted the secondary. Could this have anything to do with it?

No idea unfortunately. I doubt the timing would matter however as long as everything has been marked as received on your portal.

emystar
07-23-2012, 08:51 AM
No idea unfortunately. I doubt the timing would matter however as long as everything has been marked as received on your portal.

Oh ok. I just read something in last year's forum that said that people who do not hear back quickly usually are rejected. Didn't know if there was any truth to that. There does seem to be some variability in time students are hearing back; I just hadn't heard of anyone waiting two weeks or more.

NickNaylor
07-23-2012, 08:53 AM
Oh ok. I just read something in last year's forum that said that people who do not hear back quickly usually are rejected. Didn't know if there was any truth to that. There does seem to be some variability in time students are hearing back; I just hadn't heard of anyone waiting two weeks or more.

That could be true, but there really are too many things that might cause your app to take a whole that are entirely unrelated to your competitiveness. If it's really getting to you I'd recommend giving the admissions office a call. I doubt they'll give you much information, but it could be worth a shot.

mirimonster
07-23-2012, 09:00 AM
Oh ok. I just read something in last year's forum that said that people who do not hear back quickly usually are rejected. Didn't know if there was any truth to that. There does seem to be some variability in time students are hearing back; I just hadn't heard of anyone waiting two weeks or more.

I don't think it's related. They're not shy about a quick rejection.

jsong23
07-23-2012, 11:51 AM
is it really bad if I still haven't submitted my secondary after two weeks? even though my primary hasn't been verified?
Since my primary hasn't even been verified, I thought it wouldnt be a big deal to submit my secondary within two weeks since they can't review it anyway. or am I wrong?

Microglia
07-23-2012, 12:35 PM
Has anyone gotten an MSTP II yet? I submitted on the 3rd but my letters weren't in/app wasn't complete until the 20th so I'm just curious.

AllDay24
07-23-2012, 02:18 PM
I submitted my secondary a 1/2-hr ago and it says I haven't submitted my payment on the site but I have. The $$$ status is not colored and the payment button is still there. But I've received an email saying "Your payment was successful."

Anyone else have this problem? I know, it's only been 30 min since they received it...

NickNaylor
07-23-2012, 02:27 PM
is it really bad if I still haven't submitted my secondary after two weeks? even though my primary hasn't been verified?
Since my primary hasn't even been verified, I thought it wouldnt be a big deal to submit my secondary within two weeks since they can't review it anyway. or am I wrong?

No.

(sent from my phone)

NickNaylor
07-23-2012, 02:27 PM
I submitted my secondary a 1/2-hr ago and it says I haven't submitted my payment on the site but I have. The $$$ status is not colored and the payment button is still there. But I've received an email saying "Your payment was successful."

Anyone else have this problem? I know, it's only been 30 min since they received it...

It's only been 30 minutes... remain calm.

(sent from my phone)

lostintranscrip
07-23-2012, 05:07 PM
Has anyone gotten an MSTP II yet? I submitted on the 3rd but my letters weren't in/app wasn't complete until the 20th so I'm just curious.

Nope.. I was complete around 7/10. I imagine they're waiting to get a few more MSTP apps so they have something to judge against, since there are so few MSTP applicants anyway.

Kivi
07-24-2012, 08:50 PM
So I am bit confused. I see people who had complete applications before and after me get rejected. And also people with complete applications before and after me get invited for interviews or put on hold for later review.

I was complete on 7/9 but still haven't heard back yet. I know it has only been two weeks but I thought they do the applications in order, no?

Neurophage
07-24-2012, 09:03 PM
So I am bit confused. I see people who had complete applications before and after me get rejected. And also people with complete applications before and after me get invited for interviews or put on hold for later review.

I was complete on 7/9 but still haven't heard back yet. I know it has only been two weeks but I thought they do the applications in order, no?

Evidently not - I am in the same boat as you.

emystar
07-24-2012, 09:29 PM
So I am bit confused. I see people who had complete applications before and after me get rejected. And also people with complete applications before and after me get invited for interviews or put on hold for later review.

I was complete on 7/9 but still haven't heard back yet. I know it has only been two weeks but I thought they do the applications in order, no?

I was complete on 7/11 and I haven't heard anything either.

Irish Football
07-24-2012, 09:48 PM
I was complete on 7/11 and I haven't heard anything either.

Did you celebrate your "complete email" with a free slurpee?

Neurophage
07-24-2012, 09:54 PM
Did you celebrate your "complete email" with a free slurpee?

You guys got emails indicating you're complete? My status says "Application Complete" but I never received any email except the payment confirmation.

Lath
07-24-2012, 09:57 PM
I was complete on 7/11 and I haven't heard anything either.

Same here.

Irish Football
07-24-2012, 09:58 PM
You guys got emails indicating you're complete? My status says "Application Complete" but I never received any email except the payment confirmation.

No, I was just making a joke, I'm
not even complete yet so I don't know what you're supposed to get.

Slurrppee21
07-24-2012, 11:00 PM
Rawr!!! I am mstp also and I want an interview at U Chicago!!!!

Rawr Chi Town!!! -- PS: homecoming by Kanye will be my pump up song Pre-interview

AllDay24
07-24-2012, 11:36 PM
Rawr!!! I am mstp also and I want an interview at U Chicago!!!!

Rawr Chi Town!!! -- PS: homecoming by Kanye will be my pump up song Pre-interview

Overplayed Kanye song. Best Kanye songs are Heard Em Say, I Wonder, The Glory, Through the Wire, and Coldest Winter.

As you can tell by my avator, this is Kanye himself speaking.

NickNaylor
07-25-2012, 05:44 AM
So I am bit confused. I see people who had complete applications before and after me get rejected. And also people with complete applications before and after me get invited for interviews or put on hold for later review.

I was complete on 7/9 but still haven't heard back yet. I know it has only been two weeks but I thought they do the applications in order, no?

This is one of those times where being on SDN and trying to rationalize how things happen doesn't work out so well. :cool:

My suggestion? Stop checking this thread and wait until you get a response.

kuntash
07-25-2012, 08:20 AM
On hold for re-review--- It's not a rejection, so I'll take it.

jdlykins91
07-25-2012, 08:52 AM
Just got some good news!!! I've been offered an interview!!! I'm on the West Coast and my mom was sleeping in because she has off of work today (which is kind of a rarity) and I ran in shoving the computer in her face... She looked at me like I was stupid... haha... Complete on 07/22... 3.9 GPA/ 36S MCAT... I was kinda surprised given all the other awesome scores that I have seen... But fingers crossed! My first interview invite!!!

Cynthia Gomez
07-25-2012, 09:51 AM
On hold for re-review--- It's not a rejection, so I'll take it.

Did you receive an email stating the hold?

kuntash
07-25-2012, 09:59 AM
No email. Just a status change on the website.

NewYorker9
07-25-2012, 10:13 AM
Any word on when we could expect to hear about student hosts for interviews? I understand things run slower in the summer, especially considering numerous medical students are not present, but I'm curious

cubbies1908
07-25-2012, 10:21 AM
nu alum here. i know quite a bit about nu, but would like to know more about univ chicago. any ideas on how you would compare the two? also, why did the hospital rating here go down so much as they are way behind nu and rush?

NickNaylor
07-25-2012, 10:37 AM
Any word on when we could expect to hear about student hosts for interviews? I understand things run slower in the summer, especially considering numerous medical students are not present, but I'm curious

Hear... about actually receiving a host? Or a confirmation for completing the request? You should have received (or you will receive shortly) a confirmation that your request was received. However, we won't begin making requests for host until a week or two before the interview date, so you won't be hearing back until then.

NewYorker9
07-25-2012, 11:44 AM
Hear... about actually receiving a host? Or a confirmation for completing the request? You should have received (or you will receive shortly) a confirmation that your request was received. However, we won't begin making requests for host until a week or two before the interview date, so you won't be hearing back until then.

I guess my question was both, thanks for covering all the bases

LittleDandelion
07-25-2012, 12:06 PM
I filled out my host request form on July 7th, and still have not received a confirmation email. Is that normal?

einstein1990
07-25-2012, 12:16 PM
Just got marked complete today. How long does it roughly take for them to review my file and make some sort of decision?

Neurophage
07-25-2012, 01:26 PM
Just got marked complete today. How long does it roughly take for them to review my file and make some sort of decision?

The current verdict is "We don't know." The longest anyone on this thread has been waiting seems to be ~2 weeks.

robertcase44
07-25-2012, 01:32 PM
I am new to this site. I received an II on July 12. My stats are 4.0 and 37Q. Good luck to all!

BlueEyedGemini
07-25-2012, 01:46 PM
interview invite this morning! submitted 7/23, wish more schools had this quick of a turnaround time

NickNaylor
07-25-2012, 01:53 PM
I filled out my host request form on July 7th, and still have not received a confirmation email. Is that normal?

If you're from the south, yes, as that's my responsibility and I haven't done it yet. :P If anywhere else then you will likely hear back soon.

(sent from my phone)

Invin22
07-25-2012, 02:45 PM
Any word on when we could expect to hear about student hosts for interviews? I understand things run slower in the summer, especially considering numerous medical students are not present, but I'm curious

There are still a lot of med students around. Many of us stick around to do research. In addition the new 1st years will be here before interview season starts.

NewYorker9
07-25-2012, 04:45 PM
Just got some good news!!! I've been offered an interview!!! I'm on the West Coast and my mom was sleeping in because she has off of work today (which is kind of a rarity) and I ran in shoving the computer in her face... She looked at me like I was stupid... haha... Complete on 07/22... 3.9 GPA/ 36S MCAT... I was kinda surprised given all the other awesome scores that I have seen... But fingers crossed! My first interview invite!!!

I think you're doing just fine, 36 is a great score

ROZAY
07-25-2012, 10:38 PM
sup drake

naixin
07-25-2012, 10:46 PM
For the judical history question, does these two counts?
1) got a speeding ticket, appeared in the court, and pleaded guilty.
2) the apartment I lived in claimed I made some damages to the carpet. Clearly, it was only normal wear and they just wanted to blackmail me. They sued me and I lost the case and turned in the money.

I feel 1 counts, but what about #2?

jdlykins91
07-25-2012, 10:51 PM
For the judical history question, does these two counts?
1) got a speeding ticket, appeared in the court, and pleaded guilty.
2) the apartment I lived in claimed I made some damages to the carpet. Clearly, it was only normal wear and they just wanted to blackmail me. They sued me and I lost the case and turned in the money.

I feel 1 counts, but what about #2?

As has been suggested elsewhere, it always seems that it is better to be safe than sorry. I am not sure that there was anything "criminal" in that second instance, but if it would show up on a background check (and I imagine it would) I would mention it. Again, better safe than sorry!!!

naixin
07-25-2012, 11:37 PM
Tnanks. Yea, better safe than sorry. I made me remember my third time in the court.
I sued someone because of traffic accident. But I lost the case, should I include that too?
From those experience except for the speeding ticket, I really felt that foreigners (I'm a foreigner) are sometimes in a disavantaged status in the court.

As has been suggested elsewhere, it always seems that it is better to be safe than sorry. I am not sure that there was anything "criminal" in that second instance, but if it would show up on a background check (and I imagine it would) I would mention it. Again, better safe than sorry!!!

endowed
07-26-2012, 01:47 AM
would it be too late to add this school at this point?

Fivo
07-26-2012, 02:57 AM
would it be too late to add this school at this point?

You cannot be serious? Of course it's not too late.

A question for you: I would seriously like to know what led you to ask that question?

TheKDizzle
07-26-2012, 05:22 AM
You cannot be serious? Of course it's not too late.

A question for you: I would seriously like to know what led you to ask that question?

Prevailing SDN culture?

endowed
07-26-2012, 10:11 AM
You cannot be serious? Of course it's not too late.

A question for you: I would seriously like to know what led you to ask that question?

I was assuming it would take a while to get the secondary. I actually got it a few hours ago and submitted! :thumbup:

SoulinNeed
07-26-2012, 11:20 AM
Anyone have any estimates on how long it takes after your interview to find out a decision?

NickNaylor
07-26-2012, 11:23 AM
Anyone have any estimates on how long it takes after your interview to find out a decision?

Varies widely. Decisions can't go out until 10/15 at the earliest. I think I interviewed at the end of September but didn't get a decision until mid December. I believe the website says 6-8 weeks, but it will take longer or shorter for some.

(sent from my phone)

SoulinNeed
07-26-2012, 11:37 AM
Varies widely. Decisions can't go out until 10/15 at the earliest. I think I interviewed at the end of September but didn't get a decision until mid December. I believe the website says 6-8 weeks, but it will take longer or shorter for some.

(sent from my phone)
Yeah, I was hoping to get an early decision so I could avoid some interviews at the end of September (I'm interviewing here in early September), but I guess I have no choice.

NickNaylor
07-26-2012, 11:52 AM
Yeah, I was hoping to get an early decision so I could avoid some interviews at the end of September (I'm interviewing here in early September), but I guess I have no choice.

Yeah, you'll likely have to wait a bit. I believe the committee only reviews 10-20 applicants at each of its meetings, so even though you're pretty early there will be a few interview days in front of you. Who knows, though.

NewYorker9
07-26-2012, 11:57 AM
I apologize if this is located somewhere in the thread or their website, but roughly how many interviewees are there at each interview?