The following are required in the Secondary Application:



An autobiographical statement which should include:

the origin and development of your motivation to be a physician
your prior experiences in health care
steps taken to explore a career in medicine
your eventual goals as a physician
and other issues of importance

The Personal Comments section of the AMCAS application may be used to satisfy this requirement, or an additional autobiography may be submitted with your secondary materials. Your AMCAS personal statement will already be on file with our office.

3 additional short essays (250 word limit each)

How have your experiences prepared you to be a physician?
How do you imagine your personal and professional lives intersecting 10 years from now?
What obstacles to your goals have you experienced and how have you dealt with them?

For re-applicants: From your most recent application until now, how have you strengthened your application?


Good luck to everyone applying! :luck:

As an incoming MS1, I know how stressful the whole application process can be! I hope that the materials I've attached can be helpful in preparing for your interviews.

"UW Interview Questions" is a list of questions asked at UW interviews over the past several years. I got the questions from SDN, and I then ordered them into categories such as Biographical Medicine, Biographical Personal, Analytical Thinking/Problem Solving, Application-Based, Health Care Policy, and Health Care Observations/Awareness.

"Bioethics" is the information from UW's website. I basically just copied and pasted the text, and then tried to make it more aesthetically-pleasing for printing.

As an incoming MS1, I know how stressful the whole application process can be! I hope that the materials I've attached can be helpful in preparing for your interviews.

"UW Interview Questions" is a list of questions asked at UW interviews over the past several years. I got the questions from SDN, and I then ordered them into categories such as Biographical Medicine, Biographical Personal, Analytical Thinking/Problem Solving, Application-Based, Health Care Policy, and Health Care Observations/Awareness.

"Bioethics" is the information from UW's website. I basically just copied and pasted the text, and then tried to make it more aesthetically-pleasing for printing.

That is amazing! Thank you so much!

Also an incoming MS1 here. In our secondary, we were asked to provide the following 4 essays:

1: Autobiographical Statement Addendum:
You must submit a brief autobiographical statement. It should describe the origin and development of your motivation to be a physician, your prior experiences in health care, steps taken to explore a career in medicine, your eventual goals as a physician, and other issues of importance. The Personal Comments section of the AMCAS application may be used to satisfy this requirement, or an additional autobiography may be submitted with your supplemental materials. Your AMCAS personal statement will already be on file with our office. (I decided to be brief, using only 188 words for this)


2:
What obstacles to your goals have you experienced and how have you overcome them? Limit 250 words. (I used exactly 250 words)


3:
How have your experiences prepared you to be a physician? Limit 250 words. (I used 249)


and 4:

How do you imagine your personal and professional lives intersecting ten years from now? Limit 250 words. (again I used 250 words)


Don't feel like you have to use the exact limit for these as I did. Give your best effort and show your writing skills. If you are over a limit, get help condensing it. If you are under, but it is well-written, be confident. This is your opportunity to supplement your AMCAS, not repeat the same crap. Any opportunity to stand out is truly valuable. Good luck to you all!

Idaho resident here for my first time applying.

This is the waitlist data from the application year 2010-2011 (2 years ago). If anyone has access to the waitlist movement of last year's cycle please post it.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?authkey=CPrT4MoP&hl=en&key=tzAFeygqgEyggL5waO31XAA&hl=en&authkey=CPrT4MoP#gid=0

Hah! I watched the live webinar and apparently this year they are requesting a photo of applicants. This could get 'ugly'...Did they do that last year?

This might be a dumb question, but UW uses a weighted GPA, according to their site, but they don't consider your fourth year grades. I remember reading somewhere that if you're a post-bacc, that means they will not consider your post-bacc grades unless they are notified. Who do I need to notify about this? My undergrad grades are horrible, and I wouldn't want to get screened out because of a technicality.

This might be a dumb question, but UW uses a weighted GPA, according to their site, but they don't consider your fourth year grades. I remember reading somewhere that if you're a post-bacc, that means they will not consider your post-bacc grades unless they are notified. Who do I need to notify about this? My undergrad grades are horrible, and I wouldn't want to get screened out because of a technicality.

The screen is automated based on their algorithm that produces a "combined score". Grab a transcript, and do the math. For WWAMI residents, you'd need a very low GPA and MCAT combination for automated rejection.

If your combined score is around 5, then you should be concerned and contact their office.

After the automated screening, I believe they [subjectively] give more weight to your most recent coursework.

Happy number crunching:thumbup:

I'm taking the MCAT on August 16, 2012... if studying goes well. I may submit only one application for this whole cycle to UWSOM.

On their website, they mentioned you needed to have MCAT and AMCAS submitted by September. What date is realistically considered too late for this cycle?

Thanks in advance.

Try reading this thread: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=919628

Honestly I think if you're confident in your MCAT prep and are receiving good practice scores consistently, send your primary ahead of time so that the moment your scores come back it will be en route to UW.

IMO, its is a huge gamble to just apply to UW. You are putting all your chips in the pot with pocket tens, waiting for the River, while other students already have pocket aces. I would fold and just ante up next round.

The screen is automated based on their algorithm that produces a "combined score". Grab a transcript, and do the math. For WWAMI residents, you'd need a very low GPA and MCAT combination for automated rejection.

If your combined score is around 5, then you should be concerned and contact their office.

After the automated screening, I believe they [subjectively] give more weight to your most recent coursework.

Happy number crunching:thumbup:

So I did the calculation for my weighted GPA. My question is in regards to the MCAT calculation. So the mean is considered a 4, right? Does that mean that if you get a 31, which is what MRSA says the mean is, you add 4 to your wGPA? I got a 30, so does that mean I have to add 3.87 to my wGPA?

If I did this correctly, I definitely exceed the cut off. Can anyone confirm that this is how you do the calculation correctly?

If you are a state resident, I wouldn't worry about the cut off line. If you have a pulse you will get a secondary. They are not going to say no to free money.

Any other Alaskan folks applying to WWAMI this cycle?

Try reading this thread: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=919628

Honestly I think if you're confident in your MCAT prep and are receiving good practice scores consistently, send your primary ahead of time so that the moment your scores come back it will be en route to UW.

IMO, its is a huge gamble to just apply to UW. You are putting all your chips in the pot with pocket tens, waiting for the River, while other students already have pocket aces. I would fold and just ante up next round.

Thanks for the info.

My original intent is to not apply at all this cycle and wait until next spring. Putting in a UWSOM application is slipping it in there through an unintended crack, so to speak. It would be nice to go through an interview even if I don't get in this cycle. I do want to go to UWSOM though...

Solitarius, I'm all all or nothing kinda guy, so I'd just go for it if you were confident in your chances for an interview. But....if perhaps you do get turned down, you'll be considered a reapplicant, which means you will have to take leaps and bounds to improve your application.

I could have applied last year, but then decided to take a gap year. In the meantime, I've traveled, gotten 100 more hours shadowing, held a full-time research job, and volunteered for an oncology camp. Looking back, I am a much stronger applicant now and have enjoyed my time off. Just my personal refelction...

Hey everyone. I have really been interest in UW and plan on applying there in the future... But is it even worth it if you are not in the 5 state area? I am not sure how open UW is to OOS students.... btw I am from the deep south

But....if perhaps you do get turned down, you'll be considered a reapplicant, which means you will have to take leaps and bounds to improve your application.


Are re-applicants to UWSOM at a definitive disadvantage?

I really appreciate your input, but how certain are you of this? I just say that b/c I knew someone who got into UWSOM as a reapplicant. From what he told me, he didn't improve his application by much (he got a job).

vk79, getting into the regular MD program from outside the WHAMMY is close-to-nil odds. From what I've read on SDN over the last couple of years, the best shot is to be a URM or have exceptional rural experience. The MD-PhD program is federally-funded, and thus, does not display in-state preference or bias.

Yeah you're right, it's not a disadvantage at all. I know a few people who successfully reapplied and got in. Though regardless of your friend, I think all of them did something cool in the time off or just put much more effort into their application. Or just got lucky the second time. Who knows.

Incoming MS1 here also, just wanted to wish everyone applying to UW this cycle luck! Feel free to PM me or post on this thread any questions you guys have about the application cycle, secondary application or interviews.

Are there any other Idahoans on here?

"How do you imagine your personal and professional lives intersecting 10 years from now?"

I'm slightly unsure how to answer this kind of question. What kind of answer are they looking for? Like, am I going to have a family, children, hobbies? How am I going to have a work-life balance???? How am I supposed to know? :rolleyes:

"How do you imagine your personal and professional lives intersecting 10 years from now?"

I'm slightly unsure how to answer this kind of question. What kind of answer are they looking for? Like, am I going to have a family, children, hobbies? How am I going to have a work-life balance???? How am I supposed to know? :rolleyes:

Yeah I always find those types of questions fiendishly difficult. I mean, 10 years ago I would've had no idea I'm who I am today. I suspect few people are any different. But I think work-life balance might be the best place to start off. That's probably what I will do, anyhow. In one of the webinars, the Dean said that some people prefer to tell it as "A Day in the Life of Dr. Smith" sort of thing. That's not really my style though. I'm curious to see what other people say/think.

Also, good luck to everyone on this cycle! :luck:

did people get a secondary from here already?

Hey everyone. I have really been interest in UW and plan on applying there in the future... But is it even worth it if you are not in the 5 state area? I am not sure how open UW is to OOS students.... btw I am from the deep south

I applied here and I'm OOS. I contacted them today and they told me that they do have a strong preference for those 5 state areas and if we're not in them, they'll review our applications for strong ties to the state and goal of serving underserved populations...

Which 5 states make up the "five state area"?

Which 5 states make up the "five state area"?

Washington, Montana, Alaska, Wyoming, and Idaho.

For OOS MD applicants, I believe they are looking for students who: (1) have strong commitment for undeserved populations, or (2) have very strong ties to the state. Even if you have strong stats, if you're OOS it's very very hard to get in. That being said, I do have a friend (PA resident) who was accepted, so I know it is possible.

Yea I'm from Cali but have done rural medicine work and for this reason am
Excited about the Univ Of Washington program :). Hopefully that helps me. Regardless 33 + secondary bucks is worth it for a shot with the school for me.

did people get a secondary from here already?

AMCAS does not start transmitting applications to schools until June 29th, so I don't believe anyone will be receiving a secondary before then.

Idaho legislation 'hopefully' adding 5 more seats for Idaho residents for THIS application cycle. 20 --> 25. Source: News article. Of course, money needs to be appropriated for each seat, so it will take some time to go through, if it does.

For the

"You must submit a brief autobiographical statement. It should describe the origin and development of your motivation to be a physician, your prior experiences in health care, steps taken to explore a career in medicine, your eventual goals as a physician, and other issues of importance. The Personal Comments section of the AMCAS application may be used to satisfy this requirement, or an additional autobiography may be submitted with your supplemental materials. Your AMCAS personal statement will already be on file with our office"

... prompt, I could pretty much copy and paste my personal statement and answer all of the requirements. I know it says that I could do this, but I feel like it is some sort of a trap, or an easy way out of writing something new. Is anyone else having some issues with this question?

Has anyone else noticed that while AMCAS gives a clear MD/MPH option for UW, there seems to be no mention on the School of Medicine website about an integrated dual degree program? Am I missing something?

I found a couple of the programs under the school of public health website:

http://depts.washington.edu/hservmph/mdmph/
http://globalhealth.washington.edu/academics/mph-global-health/md-mph-track

They all seem to say that you should apply as a first or second year medical student in good standing, which makes me confused as to why the checkbox is in AMCAS at all. Does anyone have experience with applying MD/MPH to this school?

Does anyone know if there is a word limit to the autobiography portion?

Does anyone know if there is a word limit to the autobiography portion?

There is no stated character/word limit for this prompt. The website states that applicants may use the personal comments section of AMCAS to answer this question, although I'm not sure that's recommended.
The other prompts have previously been capped at 250 words.

Hey guys, I'm a UWSOM student- in limbo between second year and third year (just took Step 1 today and start third year on Monday). Good luck to everyone applying, UW is an amazing school. If people have any questions, I'm happy to answer them (maybe 1 per person for the first ten people if there's interest). Good luck in the application cycle (!), I look forward to working with you in the future.

Hey guys, I'm a UWSOM student- in limbo between second year and third year (just took Step 1 today and start third year on Monday). Good luck to everyone applying, UW is an amazing school. If people have any questions, I'm happy to answer them (maybe 1 per person for the first ten people if there's interest). Good luck in the application cycle (!), I look forward to working with you in the future.

I'm going to take a stab and say that judging from your id you're an Idahoan?

Hey very perceptive, no I just did a race in CdA. Grew up in western WA and college in eastern WA.

Did anyone get a secondary here yet?

Did anyone get a secondary here yet?

I too would like to know.

Hey very perceptive, no I just did a race in CdA. Grew up in western WA and college in eastern WA.

I always enjoy watching the race with a brewski, but would never do it. One of my friends did it two years ago, the first words out of his mouth: "That was the worst f***ing day of my life." Congrats on finishing!

Did anyone get a secondary here yet?

Last year's thread had the first secondaries coming out around 7/7, but with the apps being transmitted on 6/29 this year that might change.

Are the lectures podcasted or streamed with the slides? Do many ppl use this option?

Congrats on finishing!

Thank you very much (!), yeah the community support and volunteers were mind-blowing. It was an awesome day.

Are the lectures podcasted or streamed with the slides? Do many ppl use this option?

Podcasting varies by the course (most were, but no one uses them. Instead, people listen to Goljan audio during second year- say while working out or on a run). Each class- unless it has sensitive patient info or images- is videotaped with accompanying slide segments. This is very popular as you can run it at high speed and turn an hour long lecture into a 35min one. At least half the class takes advantage of this during second year as Step 1 approaches.

Thank you very much (!), yeah the community support and volunteers were mind-blowing. It was an awesome day.



Podcasting varies by the course (most were, but no one uses them. Instead, people listen to Goljan audio during second year- say while working out or on a run). Each class- unless it has sensitive patient info or images- is videotaped with accompanying slide segments. This is very popular as you can run it at high speed and turn an hour long lecture into a 35min one. At least half the class takes advantage of this during second year as Step 1 approaches.

Thanks for the reply! I don't know about listening to The Goljan while running, but maybe a fancy dinner with just me and the iPod...

I was just rejected pre-secondary by UDub.

I have a 3.72 cGPA, 3.66 sGPA, and a 35 MCAT. I'm a cali resident.

What went wrong?

Typically more than 95 percent of UW School of Medicine acceptances are applicants from Washington, Wyoming, Alaska, Montana or Idaho (WWAMI).

Non-WWAMI Applicants: Applicants from outside the WWAMI region who come from either economically or educationally disadvantaged backgrounds and/or who have demonstrated a commitment to serving underserved populations will be considered.

If you're not WWAMI, do you have to be URM to be considered for UDub? I'm stll in the going for the MD/PhD program - they haven't reviewed apps for that yet... but I'm getting a little worried that there might have been something else glaringly wrong with my application.

Do you come from an economically or educationally disadvantaged background or have you demonstrated a commitment to serving underserved populations?

If not, looks like your SOL as a non-WWAMI student.

First off, I received the secondary today and am filling it out out. They are still a pay by check, so this may take a few extra days to be completely "finished"

I was just rejected pre-secondary by UDub.

I have a 3.72 cGPA, 3.66 sGPA, and a 35 MCAT. I'm a cali resident.

What went wrong?



If you're not WWAMI, do you have to be URM to be considered for UDub? I'm stll in the going for the MD/PhD program - they haven't reviewed apps for that yet... but I'm getting a little worried that there might have been something else glaringly wrong with my application.

UW probably rejected you because you did not have enough shadowing hours. They have an automatic cutoff if you have under 40 hours.

Secondary received this morning! Idaho resident. Time to start writing...

Got the secondary invite and residency certification request this morning.

Got the secondary invite and residency certification request this morning.

Residency certification request?

Edit: I just saw that you are from Idaho. As a Washington resident I don't have to fill that out.

Residency certification request?

Edit: I just saw that you are from Idaho. As a Washington resident I don't have to fill that out.

Yes, you do. You have to provide all sorts of information.
"Washington residents should be prepared to prove their residence status at any time. If you are uncertain of your Washington residence status, contact the Residence Classification Office."

http://uwmedicine.washington.edu/Education/MD-Program/Admissions/Applicants/Pages/default.aspx

Yes, you do. You have to provide all sorts of information.
"Washington residents should be prepared to prove their residence status at any time. If you are uncertain of your Washington residence status, contact the Residence Classification Office."

http://uwmedicine.washington.edu/Education/MD-Program/Admissions/Applicants/Pages/default.aspx

Well it shows up on my secondary as "Not Applicable" and the places I lived has just been one town in Washington my whole life so the portion of the application where I list cities was pretty simple. I am completely submitted and the check is on the way to them now.

Well it shows up on my secondary as "Not Applicable" and the places I lived has just been one town in Washington my whole life so the portion of the application where I list cities was pretty simple. I am completely submitted and the check is on the way to them now.

That might be verification enough then.

Got MD rejected today as well. Cali resident but still applying MD/PhD.

The letter said "hey your OOS... Bye for MD only" lol. MD/PhD is national so should be fine :).

So, I'm guessing all the people who got notifications of rejection today were MD/PhD? I got the initial letter saying they've received my primary app, and that's it.

Just got the secondary invite this morning. Good luck to everyone, including you Cali MSTP applicants!

I got the secondary. WA resident. My stats make me a huge underdog for UW, but I'm going to do everything in my power to try and get in. UW is my top choice. Go dawgs!

I am an Oregon resident...but in AMCAS, there on questions on where you were born (Spokane, WA) and where you spent most of your life up to 18 (Vancouver, WA)...think they give any weight to that, or am I just as OOS as someone that's never seen the west coast?

I am an Oregon resident...but in AMCAS, there on questions on where you were born (Spokane, WA) and where you spent most of your life up to 18 (Vancouver, WA)...think they give any weight to that, or am I just as OOS as someone that's never seen the west coast?

Seriously, I hope Oregonians get some love from UW as I know OHSU shows some serious love for Washington residents.

Is anyone else having troubles logging in right now? I had the application almost complete and decided to take the weekend off. I tried to log in and I get the message "Information for ID not found (ARWARN 426770)"

What!?!?!?!

Edit:
Finally logged in. I realized I was using the wrong username. I was using my first letter of my first and last name, and not the first two of the last name. Dangit! I even emailed them about it too.

Got a secondary from here this morning! So excited :)

OOS resident, applying MD only, stats are decent but not amazing. I do have a strong background working for underserved communities though.

Jealous!!

I just got the "initial letter" email saying they got my AMCAS app this morning so hopefully I get a nice reviewer and get a secondary invite!

For MD/PhD applicants: how are you guys planning to supplement your research experiences in the "preliminary secondary"? I was planning to update the experience I'm currently involved in, but for the others, since nothing has changed, is it sufficient to just copy/paste from AMCAS?

got secondary a few minutes ago--good luck everyone! I'm surprised this thread has been blowing up....this school is fantastic!

Any Idaho applicants know how long it took to get their residency status verified after submitting the form? With the essays and the supplemental forms for the residency form, this is taking quite some time.

Forgot to post this, but I was complete at UW three days ago. Hopefully I will be in the first batch of interviews. This is my number 1 school. I would love to be at the WSU/UI campus for the first year

Any Idaho applicants know how long it took to get their residency status verified after submitting the form? With the essays and the supplemental forms for the residency form, this is taking quite some time.

Not long as I recall from last year. No longer than 2 weeks. This early in the cycle should be fairly quick

I have no recieved the secondary yet. when does it come out for people not in the washington/idaho/montana region?

UW is not nice to OOS people. They will review your application first. If they believe you will work in underserved locations, then they might send you a secondary.

For all of the OOS'ers...good luck. I imagine a fair number of those lurking on the UWash page to be from the UW. If you guys want my perspective on the process, the school, and whatnot, feel free to PM me. I graduated from UW myself for UG, but I wasn't accepted to the UW program, however I quickly found out that it wasn't my top choice school post interview. I'm working at a UW hospital at the moment, and have had a fair chance to speak with PLENTY of rotating M4s in my dept and those with perspective on the program as well. So say what you'd like to that, but lemme know if you have any questions. I won't be checking this thread much, so PMs are preferred. I'd be happy to share my perspective on it.

The one-liner though: Be careful on what you think to be your "top choice school," and I'd recommend staying away from Seattle for your first year site, as counter-intuitive as it may sound.

For all of the OOS'ers...good luck. I imagine a fair number of those lurking on the UWash page to be from the UW. If you guys want my perspective on the process, the school, and whatnot, feel free to PM me. I graduated from UW myself for UG, but I wasn't accepted to the UW program, however I quickly found out that it wasn't my top choice school post interview. I'm working at a UW hospital at the moment, and have had a fair chance to speak with PLENTY of rotating M4s in my dept and those with perspective on the program as well. So say what you'd like to that, but lemme know if you have any questions. I won't be checking this thread much, so PMs are preferred. I'd be happy to share my perspective on it.

The one-liner though: Be careful on what you think to be your "top choice school," and I'd recommend staying away from Seattle for your first year site, as counter-intuitive as it may sound.


Haha you can't just say something like that and not back it up, that's just poor form.

Is anyone having difficulty paying the fee to the application?

UW doesn't do electronic fees, so I believe you'll have to mail a check/money order in. They give you an address on the secondary website.

UW doesn't do electronic fees, so I believe you'll have to mail a check/money order in. They give you an address on the secondary website.

Ugh. Now I feel stupid. Thanks dude(tte).

I noticed something: MSAR says 45% of the first year class are OOS, but USNews says 89% of students are in-state. Anyone have an explanation for this?

MSAR also says: "Residents of WA, WY, AK, MT, and ID are considered 'in-state.'" So that's not the explanation.

Is anyone having difficulty paying the fee to the application?

No. I sent my check last Wednesday. Was updated Saturday.

I noticed something: MSAR says 45% of the first year class are OOS, but USNews says 89% of students are in-state. Anyone have an explanation for this?

MSAR also says: "Residents of WA, WY, AK, MT, and ID are considered 'in-state.'" So that's not the explanation.

This cannot be accurate. From the WAMI states (WA not included) alone there are 80 matriculants which constitutes 40% of seats. That's not yet accounting for Washington residents.

I noticed something: MSAR says 45% of the first year class are OOS, but USNews says 89% of students are in-state. Anyone have an explanation for this?

MSAR also says: "Residents of WA, WY, AK, MT, and ID are considered 'in-state.'" So that's not the explanation.

WY = 20 seats
AK = 20 seats
MT = 20 seats
ID = 20 seats

Total 80 seats

I believe WA is about 60-90 seats, but I am not sure. It could be more than that or less, this is just my estimate.

My low ball estimate is 63% if including surrounding states (60+80=140 140/219= 63%)
My high ball estimate is 78% if including surrounding states (90+80=170 170/219=78%)

Anyone know the actual data for acceptance from WA residents?

Woo! First rejection. I'm actually relieved I have one less secondary to fill out. Good luck everyone!

WY = 20 seats
AK = 20 seats
MT = 20 seats
ID = 20 seats

Total 80 seats

I believe WA is about 60-90 seats, but I am not sure. It could be more than that or less, this is just my estimate.

My low ball estimate is 63% if including surrounding states (60+80=140 140/219= 63%)
My high ball estimate is 78% if including surrounding states (90+80=170 170/219=78%)

Anyone know the actual data for acceptance from WA residents?

Acceptance rates for 2012 matriculants (from the Dean's office):
WA 18%, WY 40%, AK 38%, MT 18%, ID 15%, OOR 0.6%.

As far as # of accepted students from WA, I'm not sure but 60-90 sounds accurate.

Woo! First rejection. I'm actually relieved I have one less secondary to fill out. Good luck everyone!

Are you out of region?

Woo! First rejection. I'm actually relieved I have one less secondary to fill out. Good luck everyone!

Did you get an email?

Woke up to an OOR rejection! I got an e-mail. :D

I was officially complete today at UW! :)

OOR applicant so we'll see if they love me enough for an interview.

I was officially complete today at UW! :)

OOR applicant so we'll see if they love me enough for an interview.

I complete the application at the beginning of last week when they received my check. However, I have gotten an email saying I am complete. Possibly because they haven't received my second MCAT score (comes out on Tuesday).

I really dislike that there isn't a final submit button that you can click to know that you are actually complete.

Damn, they denied one of my strong letter writer's letter because she didn't submit on official letter head and didn't sign.

Hopefully this won't delay my processing.

I complete the application at the beginning of last week when they received my check. However, I have gotten an email saying I am complete. Possibly because they haven't received my second MCAT score (comes out on Tuesday).

I really dislike that there isn't a final submit button that you can click to know that you are actually complete.

I didn't receive an email either but when I checked my application status online it said

"Your application is complete and will now be reviewed to determine your relative competitiveness for an interview."

Yours probably doesn't say that yet because of that MCAT like you said. Good luck!

Got an OOR rejection email today. 39Q, cGPA 3.89, sGPA 4.0.

To my shock and delight, received MD secondary despite being OOR. Yes, I have extensive experience working with underserved and I am earning my graduate degree at UCSF. My advice would be if you are passionate about devoting your life to working in an underserved community, be sure to articulate that passion and back it up with solid experiences in your personal statement.

I am interested in the TRUST program, but am wondering if it's more competitive than just applying under the regular MD program. I am kind of an underdog and want to do everything I can to get in to UWSOM. Does anyone know if TRUST is more competitive to get into due to the limited spots?

Have any Washington residents out there gotten a secondary yet?

Have any Washington residents out there gotten a secondary yet?

Yes, I received it on the 5th submitted it on the 12th. And I believe there are some others on this thread who've also gotten it.

When did your primary get verified?

Yes, I received it on the 5th submitted it on the 12th. And I believe there are some others on this thread who've also gotten it.

When did your primary get verified?

6/28. But UW seems to just do some of these things slowly so if you're a WA resident I wouldn't sweat it too much yet. You'll probably be getting it sometime soon.

OOR Interview Invite...no date yet...3.72scic/umGPA 29 MCAT (7 VR). Lots of underserved stuff.

Seriously, I don't understand why more people aren't as stoked as I am about this school!

OOR Interview Invite...no date yet...3.72scic/umGPA 29 MCAT (7 VR). Lots of underserved stuff.

Seriously, I don't understand why more people aren't as stoked as I am about this school!

I would be stoked if I would get a secondary invite. I'm OOS though, so I'm still just waiting for their rejection email :(

Was expecting to get rejected, but got a secondary today with low stats and OOR.

OOR Interview Invite...no date yet...3.72scic/umGPA 29 MCAT (7 VR). Lots of underserved stuff.

Seriously, I don't understand why more people aren't as stoked as I am about this school!

You got an interview invite already?!?!?!

I am interested in the TRUST program, but am wondering if it's more competitive than just applying under the regular MD program. I am kind of an underdog and want to do everything I can to get in to UWSOM. Does anyone know if TRUST is more competitive to get into due to the limited spots?

My understanding from reading the secondary and the UWs TRUST website is that TRUST is a pool within the application pool. TRUST is going to be competitive because it has limited slots, but not everyone applies, so I can't tell you how big the pool is compared to the number of slots. Your application for will be considered for regular MD admittance as well as for TRUST however.

Gee whiz, sounds like a way to up my chances because now I get two considerations from two committees! And if I don't get TRUST I can still get into UW and vice versa! The one small caveat to remember is that in the fine print, UW tells you that if you apply to the TRUST program, are accepted, and choose not to participate, you forfeit your slot at the school for the upcoming year and must reapply. So don't apply unless it's something you really want to do. There's a different third and fourth year rotation schedule, press for certain specialties, etc. Not to scare anyone off (I'm applying for it), but just saying since it took forever to find any information I feel like.

Hey all, by the way. Washington state resident here. Low-middle end of average cGPA, 26R MCAT (Yeah, screw you too physics; my 11V and 9B don't much care for you either buddy), 200+ shadowing hours, 125+ volunteer hours that were medical, 100+ hours that were non-medical, leadership associated stuff 15+ hours a week for going on four years... Hopefully the other stuff can make up for the low screening stats.

I'm thankful that they automatically review any WWAMI resident's complete file instead of just kicking you to the curb for slightly subpar stats. Talking to Stella (dean or director of admissions) at a tour/lecture she gave to about 50 students from my school in January when we visited, the procedure is for ADCOM to automatically send in-state/in-region applicants a secondary if they're over a 20 MCAT and 2.5 GPA in all areas (crazy generous I think), then will review the complete file, focusing on any upward trends in grades if you're low or reasons for poor performance. Come interview time, there are apparently three physicians, one of whom has access to your full file and test scores, while the other two aren't permitted to see your GPA/scores so they can make an 'unbiased' decision. Not sure how true this all is (just seems to good to hope for), but like I said, Stella is pretty high up in admissions and it was a bona fide tour. Maybe the underdogs have a shot after all!

Anyone else really hating the 'where do you see your personal and professional life intersecting 10 years from now' question? I feel like I could dig up one of those kid's decoder rings from a cereal box to use and have better luck writing a decent response.

I'm thankful that they automatically review any WWAMI resident's complete file instead of just kicking you to the curb for slightly subpar stats. Talking to Stella (dean or director of admissions) at a tour/lecture she gave to about 50 students from my school in January when we visited, the procedure is for ADCOM to automatically send in-state/in-region applicants a secondary if they're over a 20 MCAT and 2.5 GPA in all areas (crazy generous I think), then will review the complete file, focusing on any upward trends in grades if you're low or reasons for poor performance. Come interview time, there are apparently three physicians, one of whom has access to your full file and test scores, while the other two aren't permitted to see your GPA/scores so they can make an 'unbiased' decision. Not sure how true this all is (just seems to good to hope for), but like I said, Stella is pretty high up in admissions and it was a bona fide tour. Maybe the underdogs have a shot after all!

From my knowledge, all of this stuff is correct. I have a lot of respect for the way UW does things regarding primaries and secondaries and such. I hear those interviews are way too intense, though.

I feel like I could dig up one of those kid's decoder rings from a cereal box to use and have better luck writing a decent response.

I just lol'd in public. That's exactly how I felt :laugh:

From my knowledge, all of this stuff is correct. I have a lot of respect for the way UW does things regarding primaries and secondaries and such. I hear those interviews are way too intense, though.

How can an interview to medical school be intense? What do they ask you? I'm having a hard time picturing this.

You got an interview invite already?!?!?!

I guess I technically didn't get an invite but more of a "we'll be inviting you, most OOR get dates in December and January"

How can an interview to medical school be intense? What do they ask you? I'm having a hard time picturing this.


Picture some pretty hard ethics questions and having to explain your reasoning to the interviewer. I did a mock interview with some wwami students and I had to talk about drug use of a patient with a friend in the room that wouldn't go away, PAS (since it is legal in WA), abortions and giving away antibiotics if I only had a 3 week supply but someone needed 4 weeks.

Pretty tough

From my knowledge, all of this stuff is correct. I have a lot of respect for the way UW does things regarding primaries and secondaries and such. I hear those interviews are way too intense, though.

I really appreciate that they take the time to review each WWAMI application completely--makes me feel like they care more about the quality of the student than the numbers. I don't feel like that's necessarily true with a lot of state and private schools.

On the interview, I've heard from two friends (both who got in) and two younger UW-trained docs I've shadowed. Everything from 'relaxed' to 'I-wanna-puke intense' was mentioned. Some grilled motivations for medicine. Some wanted to hear your (well-formed) opinions on healthcare issues. Some guide you towards the topics they wanted to hear about and others let you flounder like an dying fish. I've heard 'I want to do rural medicine' is an auto-in and that not having research hurts you. It seems that you really just need to know your stuff going in and pray you don't end up with a 'deer in the headlights' inducing question. One of the docs told me she was reading Times magazine and googling every news article possible on the subject for the six months up to her interview.

I've heard 'I want to do rural medicine' is an auto-in

:laugh:

Not true. If you go in and say that with no background in rural medicine then they will think you are lying and reject you. Happened to three of the WWAMI students I talked to. It took them a second attempt at applying. They didn't do it the second time because the dean told them to tell the truth.

Yes, UW focuses on rural medicine but that doesn't mean everyone that gets in want to do rural medicine. The school also focuses on primary care. However, people still go into residencies for plastics, surgery, etc.

Just tell the truth during the interview and you will do fine.

How can an interview to medical school be intense? What do they ask you? I'm having a hard time picturing this.



I guess I technically didn't get an invite but more of a "we'll be inviting you, most OOR get dates in December and January"

When were you officially complete??

[QUOTE=Bumbl3b33;12837866]How can an interview to medical school be intense? What do they ask you? I'm having a hard time picturing this.

Sometimes they will do role playing questions. There will be ethical questions. Questions about health care. They will look at your application and ask questions based on your background. It is very fair, but it can be intense when there is three people staring at you only a couple yards away.

:laugh:

Not true. If you go in and say that with no background in rural medicine then they will think you are lying and reject you. Happened to three of the WWAMI students I talked to. It took them a second attempt at applying. They didn't do it the second time because the dean told me to tell the truth.

Just tell the truth during the interview and you will do fine.

I'm in total agreement with you on this one. Obviously, if you say "my dream in life is to practice rural medicine in the slums" and you stare blankly when they ask why, you're totally and irrevocably f'ed. If it's honestly something you want and you have reasons, it won't hurt being that it's in line with the mission statement of the school.

Of course, there's the one guy I know who has zero interest in rural medicine, but spent a day watching YouTube videos on it so he could make it sound convincing. He got a call back from his interviewers the next day saying he was in. His first goal on graduation: move back across the country (he's originally OOS). I was just like 'well, no such thing as a perfect system.'

Finishing up secondary in the next couple of weeks.

Any Idaho residents confused with the residency application through University of Idaho?? From the paper, if you haven't worked in Idaho 12 consecutive months with a full-year tax return (so much for those people going to school full-time), you must OWN a house, have a kid in school, and 4 other types of supporting documents.

EDIT: The above applies only to those who claim to be independent, a dependent can claim residency if they can show proof through parents' most recent tax return.

Got an OOR rejection email today. 39Q, cGPA 3.89, sGPA 4.0.


Rejected too...40O, 4.00, OOR

Rejected too...40O, 4.00, OOR

wow

Rejected too...40O, 4.00, OOR

Sucks, but doesn't surprise me. You really have to prove you want to work in underserved locations or come from a disadvantaged background to get a secondary.

Rejected too...40O, 4.00, OOR

Damn. I feel guilty about my II now. Did you not work significantly with underserved populations in your EC's.

Can anyone comment on UW's curriculum?

Damn. I feel guilty about my II now. Did you not work significantly with underserved populations in your EC's.

You do not have an invite yet. It just says that if they do invite you they will do it in December. You can't say you have the invite until they actually call/email with a date and tell you to show up.

Can anyone comment on UW's curriculum?

I have heard that it is pretty typical. The only difference that I have seen is that clinical work is started in year one. Sure it is just taking patient histories, but you are still with patients. Someone can correct me if I am wrong, I am just making observations from what I have seen.

http://uwmedicine.washington.edu/Education/MD-Program/Current-Students/Curriculum/Pages/default.aspx

You do not have an invite yet. It just says that if they do invite you they will do it in December. You can't say you have the invite until they actually call/email with a date and tell you to show up.



I have heard that it is pretty typical. The only difference that I have seen is that clinical work is started in year one. Sure it is just taking patient histories, but you are still with patients. Someone can correct me if I am wrong, I am just making observations from what I have seen.

http://uwmedicine.washington.edu/Education/MD-Program/Current-Students/Curriculum/Pages/default.aspx

Really? Because my e-mail says "Your application has passed through this screening and the Committee on Admissions would like to invite you to interview. You can expect a future invitation to interview with your precise date and time of your interview appointment as well as additional information on the interview day schedule."

Sounded like a solid interview invite...

Either way, re: curriculum I guess I was moreso wondering about if it's like a 8-4PM classes/classes recorded and posted online/format.

Thanks!

I guess I technically didn't get an invite but more of a "we'll be inviting you, most OOR get dates in December and January"

Sorry, I based your II on this. You never stated more.

Either way, re: curriculum I guess I was moreso wondering about if it's like a 8-4PM classes/classes recorded and posted online/format.

Depends on the location you go to. From what I heard, first year students have about 8 hours of class a day, second year it is 5 hours. Whether that is 8 hours of class straight depends on the location. Obviously Seattle has the main medical school and the faculty to do that, while other areas do not. But the other locations provide benefits in other fields (first year clinical experiences are not competing with residents and the 3rd and 4th years). As for the classes, some classes are recorded but not necessarily all of them, but notes and such should be posted online.

I have only heard this from first year students at the WSU-UI branch, and I heard it a long time ago. So take it with a grain of salt, since it may be incorrect. I would like to have a medical student here verify.

Depends on the location you go to. From what I heard, first year students have about 8 hours of class a day, second year it is 5 hours. Whether that is 8 hours of class straight depends on the location. Obviously Seattle has the main medical school and the faculty to do that, while other areas do not. But the other locations provide benefits in other fields (first year clinical experiences are not competing with residents and the 3rd and 4th years). As for the classes, some classes are recorded but not necessarily all of them, but notes and such should be posted online.

I have only heard this from first year students at the WSU-UI branch, and I heard it a long time ago. So take it with a grain of salt, since it may be incorrect. I would like to have a medical student here verify.


Is it possible for OOR folks to apply to the other branches? I'd love to be in Alaska haha. and I don't like the idea of being in a clinic or something and feeling like I'm taking away from 3rd/4th years or residents...Although I guess that's kind of the case everywhere

Finishing up secondary in the next couple of weeks.

Any Idaho residents confused with the residency application through University of Idaho?? From the paper, if you haven't worked in Idaho 12 consecutive months with a full-year tax return (so much for those people going to school full-time), you must OWN a house, have a kid in school, and 4 other types of supporting documents.

I guess I better go buy a trailer and start sleeping around with no protection for me to be considered in-region.

I'm calling that UofI office tomorrow hopefully the 23 years I've been in Idaho and the 50 years my parents have will satisfy...

I recommend reading the actual law to figure out of you are a resident rather than try to deduce it from that residency worksheet.

http://www.legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/Title33/T33CH37SECT33-3717B.htm

I don't know your particular situation but paragraph 1J might answer some questions.

Is it possible for OOR folks to apply to the other branches? I'd love to be in Alaska haha. and I don't like the idea of being in a clinic or something and feeling like I'm taking away from 3rd/4th years or residents...Although I guess that's kind of the case everywhere

You would not be allowed to go to another state in the first year. Those are reserved for residents of that state. I am unsure if you could apply to the WSU-UI (it a Idaho and others residents' campus since it is in Pullman, WA and Moscow, ID) campus or WSU Spokane campus. I believe those are open to WA residents and OOS, but I am unsure.

And you wouldn't be taking away from the other students. You are furthering your own goals of helping people. And 3rd and 4th year students are spread out among the 5 states. You should probably research this if you really want to go to UW.

You would not be allowed to go to another state in the first year. Those are reserved for residents of that state. I am unsure if you could apply to the WSU-UI (it a Idaho and others residents' campus since it is in Pullman, WA and Moscow, ID) campus or WSU Spokane campus. I believe those are open to WA residents and OOS, but I am unsure.

And you wouldn't be taking away from the other students. You are furthering your own goals of helping people. And 3rd and 4th year students are spread out among the 5 states. You should probably research this if you really want to go to UW.

Isn't he/she researching it by asking questions right now?

Either way, from my understanding sites other than Seattle are only available to residents of that specific state.
http://uwmedicine.washington.edu/Education/MD-Program/Admissions/Applicants/WWAMI-First-Year/Pages/default.aspx

Isn't he/she researching it by asking questions right now?

Either way, from my understanding sites other than Seattle are only available to residents of that specific state.
http://uwmedicine.washington.edu/Education/MD-Program/Admissions/Applicants/WWAMI-First-Year/Pages/default.aspx

We are researching it for him/her.

And that sucks that OOR people don't get to attend the other branches for the first year. I feel like that is a huge perk of UWSOM.

I wonder if that will change when they complete the new medical school in Spokane? That opens up at the end of 2013/beginning of 2014, right?

And that sucks that OOR people don't get to attend the other branches for the first year. I feel like that is a huge perk of UWSOM.


First, thanks for your help. The UW site isn't the most informative or easiest to navigate.

Second, in what way do you mean the above statement?

First, thanks for your help. The UW site isn't the most informative or easiest to navigate.

Second, in what way do you mean the above statement?

Class sizes of 20 students is an awesome perk. Also, not having to compete against 2nd, 3rd, 4th year students and residents for getting clinical experience is nice.

And that sucks that OOR people don't get to attend the other branches for the first year. I feel like that is a huge perk of UWSOM.

I wonder if that will change when they complete the new medical school in Spokane? That opens up at the end of 2013/beginning of 2014, right?

I don't think it sucks at all, but I'm in region. I would not want to compete with OOR applicants for those spots, and I'm not sure how popular places like Pullman and Moscow would be with OOR applicants. I feel like a couple perks for the WWAMI applicants are well earned given this is our only "instate" option.

Actually UW sent MS1s to Spokane for the first time in 2008. A pilot program with 20 MS2s will begin in 2013 from what I understand. http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2012/mar/23/med-students-will-spend-second-year-spokane/

I don't think it sucks at all, but I'm in region. I would not want to compete with OOR applicants for those spots, and I'm not sure how popular places like Pullman and Moscow would be with OOR applicants. I feel like a couple perks for the WWAMI applicants are well earned given this is our only "instate" option.

Actually UW sent MS1s to Spokane for the first time in 2008. A pilot program with 20 MS2s will begin in 2013 from what I understand. http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2012/mar/23/med-students-will-spend-second-year-spokane/

Or Spokane if you are out of Region. Eastern and Western Washington are very different both geographically and culturally.

Correct me if I am wrong but from what I remember at my interview day last year in Spokane, the new Campus is for to be a branch for second year students (i.e. so you do not have to go to Seattle and can remain in the smaller class sizes). Most rotations for 3 and 4th years around scattered around the WWAMI region. This is where you can go from state to state, even if you are an OOR applicant.

Or Spokane if you are out of Region. Eastern and Western Washington are very different both geographically and culturally.

Correct me if I am wrong but from what I remember at my interview day last year in Spokane, the new Campus is for to be a branch for second year students (i.e. so you do not have to go to Seattle and can remain in the smaller class sizes). Most rotations for 3 and 4th years around scattered around the WWAMI region. This is where you can go from state to state, even if you are an OOR applicant.

Vonnegut on Spokane: “Spokane has many faults, chief among them that it is the source of all human woe – a cleft in the wounded crust of the world that grants Satan and his twisted lieutenants easy access.” I tend to agree.

That sounds right. As of March that seemed to be the plan.

I believe the satellite experience offered at UWSOM is primarily a method to create a sense of statehood and belonging so that the graduates will return to their respective states...Since, the ultimate goal of the WWAMI program is to improve the health in the Northwest region, ideally rural. I know Idaho has close to a 75% return rate of WWAMI graduates. So it's not simply not smart for them to offer an OOR student a spot at their satellite locations.

I can see it happening already... the OOR people getting their MD from UWSOM and saying ciao, then going straight back to the home state to practice. We'll find out in four years, right...

Damn. I feel guilty about my II now. Did you not work significantly with underserved populations in your EC's.

No I did not, at least not specifically with underserved populations.

Has no one gotten an interview invite or an e-mail saying they will get an II? I'm starting to think the e-mail I received was a mistake....

Are there other OOR students that were verified very early on still just waiting for a rejection or secondary? I was verified on 7/5, got the initial contact email from them on 7/9, and haven't heard anything since. Curious if there are others or if I am all alone :(

I received the initial contact email on 7/5 and am OOR and haven't heard a peep...wondering if it's good or bad news haha

I received the initial contact email on 7/5 and am OOR and haven't heard a peep...wondering if it's good or bad news haha

I'm going with its better than bad new, but not quite good news, as other OOR students have heard both ways. So we still have a chance!!

Has no one gotten an interview invite or an e-mail saying they will get an II? I'm starting to think the e-mail I received was a mistake....

Nope you're not alone, I received my invite on the 24th :)

Nope you're not alone, I received my invite on the 24th :)

IS or OOR?

IS or OOR?

In-state, I should have mentioned that in my last post!

Nope you're not alone, I received my invite on the 24th :)

you got an actual invite? like with a date and everything? my e-mail just said that I will be invited but didn't offer me any fixed dates or anything

you got an actual invite? like with a date and everything? my e-mail just said that I will be invited but didn't offer me any fixed dates or anything

No I got the same email as yours...still waiting to hear from them about an actual date/time.

No I got the same email as yours...still waiting to hear from them about an actual date/time.

awesome! for a while there I thought it was an accidental emai

For the part on the secondary about optional letters...I left the date as is but I won't be submitting optional letters. Is it going to affect me being complete or not? Did you guys just leave it as is too?

Secondary invite! Initial letter: 7/5. 32 MCAT, 4.0 GPA, and OOR :D

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Two weeks after submitting all my secondary materials, the Residency Certification Office has decided that I am indeed a Washington resident. Application now complete. Let more waiting begin!

As someone who's lived in Washington since birth - I technically still have to complete the residency verification form, correct? It's a little confusing on the secondary because there's just the "be prepared to prove your residency" thing. Kinda lame considering I've never even been out of the state for extended periods of time, and I went to undergrad here.

As someone who's lived in Washington since birth - I technically still have to complete the residency verification form, correct? It's a little confusing on the secondary because there's just the "be prepared to prove your residency" thing. Kinda lame considering I've never even been out of the state for extended periods of time, and I went to undergrad here.

What does the link on the secondary say?

Here is a screen shot of my secondary post submitting.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/picture.php?albumid=1649&pictureid=3830

It was like this from the moment I got my secondary. I lived in WA my whole life and did my undergrad at a state school. If they ever ask me to prove my residency I wouldn't have an issue doing it. However, the link says "Not Applicable" on the side.

And I should add that I have already received the "You are complete" email without doing it.

What does the link on the secondary say?

Here is a screen shot of my secondary post submitting.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/picture.php?albumid=1649&pictureid=3830

It was like this from the moment I got my secondary. I lived in WA my whole life and did my undergrad at a state school. If they ever ask me to prove my residency I wouldn't have an issue doing it. However, the link says "Not Applicable" on the side.

And I should add that I have already received the "You are complete" email without doing it.

Mine says "Verification is Required." I guess living here for 21 years doesn't count me as a resident :laugh: Yay for more waiting though while the paperwork goes through!

Interview invite! No date set, but I am still pretty stoked.

Your application has passed through this screening and the Committee on Admissions would like to invite you to interview. You can expect a future invitation to interview with your precise date and time of your interview appointment as well as additional information on the interview day schedule.

Almost 2 weeks since UW told me my secondary was considered complete. How long did it take OOR applicants to hear back from UW after completing secondary? 2weeks? 3 weeks? Says it can take a month or more but I am so eager to find out whether I will have the opportunity to interview at this outstanding school.

people with 40's are getting rejected? Im done for!

I got today that my application is complete and will be reviewed and such, had an epic fail proving i was a washington state resident, thankfully a drives license, voter registry, and community college transcripts were enough to get through. good luck to everyone and good job to the people who have interview invites. AHHHHHHHHHHH

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Interview invite! No date set, but I am still pretty stoked.


Congratulations on receiving an interview!

Congratulations on receiving an interview!

Thanks!

Pullman is my top choice for first year locations, so maybe we will be classmates! haha

YES! I just got a secondary! Out of Region with >3.5, >35. Initial letter came 7/19

As of today: "A status update will be mailed to the address provided on your MSTP application."

Anyone else get this, or get something in the mail?

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Did you submit a secondary?
I have not received a secondary. I just submitted the MSTP preliminary.

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Sorry to say, it might be bad news then :(. Don't know why they would be mailing you the letter though.
Yeah. I don't know why they'd email rejections to MD folk and send them for the MSTP, but I can't think they'd be mailing anything good.

Rejection notice in mail. Guess it's nice they'd spend a few cents mailing it.

Rejected :( Semi-expected as an OOR applicant though. Truthfully, I'm just glad that if they were going to reject me, it was before I had to complete the secondary!

Just received the interview invitation email!!!! I'm SOO excited :):):)

OOR applicant and I'm amazed at even getting a chance to interview at this amazing school.

Good luck to everyone!

Rejected this morning pre-secondary.

OOR 3.5 34Q. Good luck y'alls.

Interview invite this afternoon!

Washington resident
Complete 8/3

Good luck everyone!

What kind of experience did you have, and do people generally have, in working with underserved populations? I'm trying to figure out what to do and could really just some suggestions! Thanks.

Received Interview invite today! Idaho resident. So excited! :)

Received Interview invite today! Idaho resident. So excited! :)

Same here! Doesn't look like my interview will be until March. Plenty of time to work on those interview skills I guess.

Same here! Doesn't look like my interview will be until March. Plenty of time to work on those interview skills I guess.

Rock on. Congrats you two. I am just waiting on Idaho residency verification and one last letter of rec.

March seems late. Did you request Seattle or Boise? I believe the Boise interview was in January last year.

Rock on. Congrats you two. I am just waiting on Idaho residency verification and one last letter of rec.

March seems late. Did you request Seattle or Boise? I believe the Boise interview was in January last year.

Boise interviews are Jan7-Jan14 this year. The Seattle interviews are in March

How late is it now to submit the primary application as an OOS?

I would say it is fine. Better today than in a month.

I would say it is fine. Better today than in a month.

Got it. Does anyone know if we have to put information for our evaluators in the AMCAS application or is it just the secondary (if it comes to that)?

Got it. Does anyone know if we have to put information for our evaluators in the AMCAS application or is it just the secondary (if it comes to that)?

Both primary and secondary.

First AMCAS under Letters of Evaluation, then go to your Medical Schools and add/designate each letter to the schools. (Just check all for each school)

Then in the UWSOM secondary write out each letter that will be sent and also additional letters beyond 3.

Then you should be good. Don't forget to consider the time lag between UWSOM downloading/receiving letters from AMCAS. I've heard it can take up to six weeks

Interview invite this morning! As a California resident, I'm excited!

Interview invite this morning! As a California resident, I'm excited!

Way to go!

Did they give you an actual date or just the whole we tend to interview OOR applicants in ____.

Finally complete! It took five weeks for my residency verification to be processed.

I'm an OOR applicant with strong ties to the state. I haven't received a secondary, and no word on rejection pre-secondary. They confirmed my AMCAS 8/7/2012. Is there any way to let them know my particular interest in UW/ties to WA state?

Finally complete! It took five weeks for my residency verification to be processed.

I've been wondering how long it's going to take for my verification to come through. Four weeks and counting!

I've been wondering how long it's going to take for my verification to come through. Four weeks and counting!

They ought to have the committees up and rolling by now, so it ought to be soon. The first eligibility committee meeting for Alaska residents was in mid-August.

I got my initial letter on 7/30 and still no secondary invite. I'm starting to feel a little doubtful on this one.

I got my initial letter on 7/30 and still no secondary invite. I'm starting to feel a little doubtful on this one.

Me too :(

It feels silly to have to apply OOS to your home state.

Way to go!

Did they give you an actual date or just the whole we tend to interview OOR applicants in ____.

No actual date. They just said this:


Your application has passed through this screening and the Committee on Admissions would like to invite you to interview.

You can expect a future invitation to interview with your precise date and time of your interview appointment as well as additional information on the interview day schedule. Currently, we are working to solidify the schedule and our office will follow up with you via e-mail as soon as possible with your interview date.

The schedule says sometime between October 1 and March 15.

EDIT: Congrats on your interview invite as well!

Interview INVITE!!! This is my top choice! Excelsior!

I really dig UW and their mission. But. No secondary. OOR. I've lost hope. Are they rejecting pre-secondary regular MD applicants yet?

Any in-state applicants still waiting for an II? I guess it's still early...but still....

I really dig UW and their mission. But. No secondary. OOR. I've lost hope. Are they rejecting pre-secondary regular MD applicants yet?

Yes, they've been doing so for awhile now.

Thanks for the info, its so early in this long process I should probably stop worrying/hoping so much. I wish being a PNW native counted as in-region!

II email!! Finally.

Interview INVITE!!! This is my top choice! Excelsior!

When did you submit your secondary?

BOOM. OOR SECONDARY!
(initial letter on 7/30)

WA resident needing help.

Already submitted secondary, but won't technically be complete until I send in the WA state verification questionnaire form. I have all the additional paper work (i.e. vehicle registration form, proof of bank account, WA drivers license, etc) except for my voter registration card.

My question is whether my paper work will be considered incomplete without a copy of my voter's registration card, or can I simply send in all the rest of the paper work and hope that my residency is verified?

Rejected today
In state
33R
3.68 overall GPA
3.97 science GPA

Interview Invite!! (No Date Yet) Complete 7/17, in-state, 34Q, 3.62c, 3.81s, awesome ec's.

Congrats on the II's!


WA resident needing help.

Already submitted secondary, but won't technically be complete until I send in the WA state verification questionnaire form. I have all the additional paper work (i.e. vehicle registration form, proof of bank account, WA drivers license, etc) except for my voter registration card.

My question is whether my paper work will be considered incomplete without a copy of my voter's registration card, or can I simply send in all the rest of the paper work and hope that my residency is verified?

You should be fine, I submitted mine without my registration. But beware, the residency verification office will take a while.

WA resident needing help.

Already submitted secondary, but won't technically be complete until I send in the WA state verification questionnaire form. I have all the additional paper work (i.e. vehicle registration form, proof of bank account, WA drivers license, etc) except for my voter registration card.

My question is whether my paper work will be considered incomplete without a copy of my voter's registration card, or can I simply send in all the rest of the paper work and hope that my residency is verified?

I don't think not having a voter registration card will matter. I imagine not every applicant is a registered voter and may not have one.

In the state questionnaire, are we supposed to just wikipedia the populations of the places we've lived? My family moved a lot during my childhood, but I mostly grew up in Vancouver, WA, a city whose population has changed a lot over the last couple decades.

In the state questionnaire, are we supposed to just wikipedia the populations of the places we've lived? My family moved a lot during my childhood, but I mostly grew up in Vancouver, WA, a city whose population has changed a lot over the last couple decades.

That's all I did.

If you want to be super exact:
http://2010.census.gov/2010census/

But I think wikipedia will be fine. It isn't like this is a major portion of your application. You will not lose an acceptance because you listed your town's population as 50 more than it should have been.

Rejected today
In state
33R
3.68 overall GPA
3.97 science GPA

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Strong GPA & MCAT....any possible ideas at why you didn't get an interview??

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Strong GPA & MCAT....any possible ideas at why you didn't get an interview??
I can't say for sure, but I've asked them for feedback. I'm a relatively older (33) non-trad with 10 years of (nonmedical) business experience and 6 years in a management role. I have unusual ECs, about 100 hours of shadowing, but almost no volunteering and zero research.

Thx for the reply. I ended up sending state verification without my voter's card. Contacted UW and they said if you don't have a voter's card you could print off your voting history through MyVote by searching access washington, myvote.

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Sorry guys - I fail at not knowing how to delete posts... fml

You can't delete posts unless you are a gold (or higher) donor. You can go to your post and click edit. Then delete what you wrote and replace it with an "x" or "." However, anything someone quoted will be forever kept on SDN.

I applied to 20 schools and received secondaries from 18/20. The only two I am missing are from the UCR/UCLA Thomas Haider program (which send them out around this time anyway) and from the University of Washington. Not sure why they have not sent me anything yet. Anyone else still waiting on a secondary invite? I received the email when they initially received my application on August 8th and they told me they would undergo a preliminary review, but haven't heard anything yet :(

I applied to 20 schools and received secondaries from 18/20. The only two I am missing are from the UCR/UCLA Thomas Haider program (which send them out around this time anyway) and from the University of Washington. Not sure why they have not sent me anything yet. Anyone else still waiting on a secondary invite? I received the email when they initially received my application on August 8th and they told me they would undergo a preliminary review, but haven't heard anything yet :(

Are you in region or out of region? UW screens secondaries and is fairly picky about OOR applicants. (I sure haven't gotten a secondary, I am OOR, verified early August)

Are you in region or out of region? UW screens secondaries and is fairly picky about OOR applicants. (I sure haven't gotten a secondary, I am OOR, verified early August)

Ya, that is probably it. I am OOS, so I guess that is why they have not sent the secondary invite. Oh well, fingers crossed for now :xf:

Ya, that is probably it. I am OOS, so I guess that is why they have not sent the secondary invite. Oh well, fingers crossed for now :xf:

FYI- not sure if you knew this, but at UW the following states are also considered "in region:" Washington, Wyoming, Alaska, Montana and Idaho. (WWAMI)

i am oor and got an ii a while back, anyone know when the oor people get asked to choose dates?

When did you submit your secondary?

Submitted 7/21
Complete 8/21

Still no date for interview, though. Just notified that I would be getting one.

I'm working on my UW secondary still (my primary was only verified on Aug 29th), and I was wondering how long it takes for them to mark the application fee as received. I sent it in early last week and it seems like their office should have gotten it by now. Anyone know?

Also, for those of you who had to fill out the residency questionnaire and prove WA residency, how long did it take for them to mark it as received (not verified, just received)?

(My first post on these forums, apologies if I've done anything wrong :o)

Oh heck, it looks like I already screwed this up:

The optional letters deadline you have selected is 12/1/2012. This date indicates how long you would like your application considered incomplete, pending the arrival of optional letters.

I did not see this part when I filled out the letters section. They have all the letters that I am going to be getting already. Has anyone had success emailing/calling them to change this, or am I doomed to wait until December for my file to get considered?

Oh heck, it looks like I already screwed this up:

The optional letters deadline you have selected is 12/1/2012. This date indicates how long you would like your application considered incomplete, pending the arrival of optional letters.

I did not see this part when I filled out the letters section. They have all the letters that I am going to be getting already. Has anyone had success emailing/calling them to change this, or am I doomed to wait until December for my file to get considered?

I had the same question and received this response from the admissions office:

"Thank you for your email. Since you do not have any optional letters listed, your applicant will process as soon as all sections of your secondary are complete. We will not wait until 12/1/2012."

So for me it made no difference, and judging from your description I think you are in the same boat. Best to check and make sure though.

II today! Complete 8/24. IS (AK).

Looks like they are scheduling interview dates. I will be interviewing October 9th in Seattle

I should add that the school selects your interview date. Looks like there are interviews in the morning and after the tour ends.

Looks like they are scheduling interview dates. I will be interviewing October 9th in Seattle

Did you get an email or status update for the date? Also when did you get your initial interview notification with no date?

Did you get an email or status update for the date? Also when did you get your initial interview notification with no date?

They emailed me with the date.

Initial "selected to be interviewed" email received 8/6
9/13 received email with the date for scheduled interview.

Had to log on to UW SOMAS website to confirm the date/select lunch.

They emailed me with the date.

Initial "selected to be interviewed" email received 8/6
9/13 received email with the date for scheduled interview.

Had to log on to UW SOMAS website to confirm the date/select lunch.

So they did not give you a few options to select a date from, it was assigned to you?

No options. Here is the email I received with names, details not important to people not interviewing and numbers omitted.

Thank you for your interest in the University of Washington School of Medicine. The Committee on Admissions at the University of Washington School of Medicine would like to invite you to interview on Tuesday, October 09, 2012.

....

If you have a conflict that involves an appointment of equal importance and wish to change your interview date or time, please contact ___________________ and explain the situation in detail to see if __________ can change your appointment (________). Please be aware that because we are responsible for interviewing five separate applicant pools from the five-state region (WWAMI), our flexibility is less than that of other schools. Wyoming, Alaska, Montana and Idaho interview during limited periods and the scheduling is very tight. I don't know of many events that are of "equal importance" to a medical school interview. Trust me, I wouldn't have picked a Tuesday to interview normally and especially not that week. I am going to have to have someone else give my anatomy students a test. Not really fair to the students since I may show something differently (or have different wording or not give a hint every so often) than another TA.

Interview Invite!!! Idaho Resident. Feels great...time to start looking for a fly suit

So does anyone have an idea of how long it takes for them to officially receive a residency questionnaire (from the time it actually arrives in their mailbox)?

I'm pretty sure my residency questionnaire and documents have been sitting in their mail pile for the last 5 days, but I'm starting to think I should re-send the packet to make sure it didn't get lost in the mail.

Interview Invite!!! Idaho Resident. Feels great...time to start looking for a fly suit

Congrats!!!

So does anyone have an idea of how long it takes for them to officially receive a residency questionnaire (from the time it actually arrives in their mailbox)?

I'm pretty sure my residency questionnaire and documents have been sitting in their mail pile for the last 5 days, but I'm starting to think I should re-send the packet to make sure it didn't get lost in the mail.

They took about 2-3 weeks for mine (and I think I was pretty early in the cycle), so I'd hang tight for a bit. Especially because the med school doesn't do the residency verification stuff--it's another office.

Regarding the Autobiographical Statement Addendum, how long should the statement be? On the secondary website, it says Limit 250 words, but then it also allows you to write beyond that limit.

I haven't received an actual interview date, but I did receive the interview invite email. Does anyone that submitted the secondary around 8/20 have a firm date yet?

Regarding the Autobiographical Statement Addendum, how long should the statement be? On the secondary website, it says Limit 250 words, but then it also allows you to write beyond that limit.

I am staying in the limit to be safe. Though that makes me wonder about the note that you can use your PS for that question, since my PS is wayy over 250 words. I'm basically just writing an abstract of my personal statement because my PS was very autobiographical and also very thorough.

Regarding the Autobiographical Statement Addendum, how long should the statement be? On the secondary website, it says Limit 250 words, but then it also allows you to write beyond that limit.

I think the second text box below the autobiography is for titles and abstracts of [published?] research. I don't think it's a place to continue on writing about yourself. But I could be wrong. Somebody correct me if so.

I'm sure it's okay to summarize your PS into the autobiography, but I consider that section as an opportunity to reveal things about yourself they can't get elsewhere. Why not use it? My autobiography revisited my PS initially, but then continued to on to describe how I will apply what I've learned to my future career.

So draw parallels to your PS, but use the autobiography to bring up new things/ideas as well. Who wants to read the same thing twice? And if you can't figure out what to write, pound an energy drink and put your thinking cap on :idea: :p

How long does it take UW to download and load Letters of Rec to the secondary file??

and why is it implied that optional letters are received later (when they are provided via AMCAS service anyway?)

Sweet, submitted & marked complete today.

Is the secondary site being buggy for anyone else? I am having trouble with it. I'm using Chrome...maybe I should try a different browser? Advice?

Also, regarding the LORs, my undergrad doesn't write a committee letter but gathers all my letters together and essentially sends them as one letter (its designated as one letter on the AMCAS). Anyone have a similar experience and could provide advice on the LOR portion of this school's application? I tried calling but couldn't get ahold of someone.

Do you guys know if UWSOM looks at MCAT and GPA after the secondary? Obviously they screen for a specific number to grant secondaries but do they consider the numbers after receiving a secondary as well?
I have a low MCAT so I'm a bit concerned....

Do you guys know if UWSOM looks at MCAT and GPA after the secondary? Obviously they screen for a specific number to grant secondaries but do they consider the numbers after receiving a secondary as well?
I have a low MCAT so I'm a bit concerned....

I would assume they do. They review the entire application before granting an interview. However, during the interview, two of the three interviewers do not have access to your file.

I would assume they do. They review the entire application before granting an interview. However, during the interview, two of the three interviewers do not have access to your file.

Oh that makes sense...Thanks!

Just got my residency verified by the reviewing institution yesterday. How long did it take people to be marked complete on the site? Congratulations to all the new interview invites by the way!

Just got my residency verified by the reviewing institution yesterday. How long did it take people to be marked complete on the site? Congratulations to all the new interview invites by the way!

Residency verification was the rate-limiting step for me. If everything else is in, I would expect to be marked "complete" within a few days (for me it was same day in early August). If it helps, I was offered an II one week later, so hopefully things pick up from here :luck:!

Come on UW... Waiting for an interview date is killing me!

Today WWAMI decided that I actually am an Alaskan, which was a major worry for me, since I spent so much time out of the state on volunteer projects. I was dreading the possibility that even after a -45 degree winter in a dry cabin in Fairbanks I wouldn't be eligible for my own state school. If I get rejected now it'll at least be for a good reason.

Residency verification was the rate-limiting step for me. If everything else is in, I would expect to be marked "complete" within a few days (for me it was same day in early August). If it helps, I was offered an II one week later, so hopefully things pick up from here :luck:!

Finished my residency verification in August and am still waiting to be complete.
:(

Interviewing October 9th.

Has anybody had an interview here recently? I've read the interview feedback page, but am more interested in the experience this application cycle.

Thanks!

Interviewing October 9th.

Has anybody had an interview here recently? I've read the interview feedback page, but am more interested in the experience this application cycle.

Thanks!

I am curious if October 9th is the first day for interviews. I haven't read anyone getting one before then... but then again we may be the only two with actual dates set.

Are you interviewing in the morning or later in the day?

Any OOR applicants receive an actual interview date yet?

It's been a month and a half since I've heard anything and I'm wondering if this is common for UW. I know the email said OOR applicants are interviewed some time around Dec-Jan, but just want to be sure I haven't missed anything.

I am curious if October 9th is the first day for interviews. I haven't read anyone getting one before then... but then again we may be the only two with actual dates set.

Are you interviewing in the morning or later in the day?
I am an in-state applicant and have my interview on October 3rd

I am an in-state applicant and have my interview on October 3rd

Well why didn't you post sooner! Congrats! I am guessing you do not have very far to travel for this interview because of your username.

Got my date for oct 19th.

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Are you interviewing in the morning or later in the day?

It appears I am interviewing in the afternoon because they want me to get there at 9:30am. So, does that meant people who interview in the morning get to leave early?

edit: Impressive MDApps profile btw! Good luck to you!

It appears I am interviewing in the afternoon because they want me to get there at 9:30am. So, does that meant people who interview in the morning get to leave early?

edit: Impressive MDApps profile btw! Good luck to you!

Thanks, but I am not that impressive. I think I am just average.

I would assume the people are allowed to leave early but the email said we could also attend lectures there for the day. Maybe they get that time to attend classes? Who knows. I also wonder how many of us there are going to be interviewing that day.

Thanks, but I am not that impressive. I think I am just average.

I would assume the people are allowed to leave early but the email said we could also attend lectures there for the day. Maybe they get that time to attend classes? Who knows. I also wonder how many of us there are going to be interviewing that day.

I think there are a total of 6 interviewees as it shows here:

Morning Interviews:
8:00 Applicant 1
9:00 Applicant 2

9:30 Sign in
9:45 Welcome and Overview
10:00-11:00 Tour
11:00-11:30 Faculty meet and greet
11:30-12:30 Lunch with students

Afternoon Interviews:
1:00 Applicant 3
2:00 Applicant 4
3:00 Applicant 5
4:00 Applicant 6

which I got from http://www.uwmedicine.org/Education/MD-Program/Admissions/Applicants/Pages/Interview.aspx

Awesome! I had seen that before but I wasn't sure if there were multiple groups of applicants. I haven't been to an interview with such few people which is why I thought there might be more. I interview at 2. When do you interview?

Wow 6 would be a small number, but I think that would actually be pretty fun. UWSOM's gotta have a lot of interview days then?

I am also Oct 19, so I'll see you there BigDogRob. I'm pretty sure that out of the 5 other people you're interviewing with, I'll be the only one from Pitt--so there's no use hiding my identity :rolleyes:. Though you're more than welcome to stay anonymous yourself! :D

And congrats on the early dates for the rest of you and good luck!

Any OOR applicants receive an actual interview date yet?

It's been a month and a half since I've heard anything and I'm wondering if this is common for UW. I know the email said OOR applicants are interviewed some time around Dec-Jan, but just want to be sure I haven't missed anything.

I haven't heard anything about a date yet. I'm expecting an interview probably in January as an OOR applicant.

Roughly how long did it take them to process your mailed app check?

I think my check might've gotten lost in the mail at this point.

So no secondaries for OOS? :/ Would have been AWESOME to go here

So no secondaries for OOS? :/ Would have been AWESOME to go here

I am OOR but got a secondary after a few weeks...it just might take them a while!

I am OOR but got a secondary after a few weeks...it just might take them a while!

Ok! What were ur stats? :)

Ok! What were ur stats? :)

I am going to sort of dodge the stat question.
I have a 3X MCAT and a cGPA >3.5.

But, if you look closely at UW, they are interested in OOR applications that emphasize a commitment to the underserved. They are also fans of URM applicants. More about those two than the numbers.

I am going to sort of dodge the stat question.
I have a 3X MCAT and a cGPA >3.5.

But, if you look closely at UW, they are interested in OOR applications that emphasize a commitment to the underserved. They are also fans of URM applicants. More about those two than the numbers.

Haha yea I saw that as well. As someone who is more interested in research and not URM, I just wanted to see if a fellow OOS had overcome that with high stats :P

FYI, since I had these questions:
It took them about 6 days to process my mailed check after its arrival in their mailbox (so I guess 4 business days)

Also, for those of you sending in residency questionnaires, it took the residency office about 6 business days (8 days) after receipt of my residency packet to confirm my residency and complete my application. I sent the package via next-day mail, so I know when they got it.

Any OOR applicants receive an actual interview date yet?

It's been a month and a half since I've heard anything and I'm wondering if this is common for UW. I know the email said OOR applicants are interviewed some time around Dec-Jan, but just want to be sure I haven't missed anything.

Kind of funny that I asked this question just a few days ago since I received my actual interview date (November) tonight! Now it just seems so much more real :scared::D:)!

Just received the follow up invite email with a date for later in October. In-state.

Awesome! I had seen that before but I wasn't sure if there were multiple groups of applicants. I haven't been to an interview with such few people which is why I thought there might be more. I interview at 2. When do you interview?

I think you're right, there must be more than one group, because I am also interviewing at 2pm on October 9th (unless I misread and you're interviewing on another date).

You did not misread it. Copied straight from the email they sent me: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 at 2:00:00 PM.

First II, so excited! :D In-state applicant complete 9/12. Good luck everyone

I'm OOS and OOR and no secondary yet . . . waiting, waiting, waiting. No news is not necessarily bad news??? At least a rejection hasn't been aimed my way as of yet . . . .

I'm OOS and OOR and no secondary yet . . . waiting, waiting, waiting. No news is not necessarily bad news??? At least a rejection hasn't been aimed my way as of yet . . . .
Me too... I got the initial letter on 9/7. How long have you been waiting?

Gaaaah!!! Waiting for an II is killing me! Complete 9/4. OOR. 29 MCAT 3.5 GPA. Awesome ECs and seeking primary care. Actually living in the Seattle area now - sent an update letter a couple of weeks ago. I'm dying here! When were you OORs with IIs complete?!

Gaaaah!!! Waiting for an II is killing me! Complete 9/4. OOR. 29 MCAT 3.5 GPA. Awesome ECs and seeking primary care. Actually living in the Seattle area now - sent an update letter a couple of weeks ago. I'm dying here! When were you OORs with IIs complete?!
Actually I just realized that the email said that OORs don't *hear* from them regarding IIs until December or January :scared: not (as I previously misread) *get* interviews until then. I guess I won't be holding my breath!

First II, so excited! :D In-state applicant complete 9/12. Good luck everyone

mind sharing your stats? i was complete 9/17 and am still waiting to hear anything. thanks

mind sharing your stats? i was complete 9/17 and am still waiting to hear anything. thanks

>3.7, >34. I've heard UW isn't so particular on stats. Hopefully you will hear soon!

Does anyone know how many OOS people they interview on average per cycle?

Does anyone know how many OOS people they interview on average per cycle?

Excellent question!!

Does anyone know how many OOS people they interview on average per cycle?

OOR applicants: ~3500
OOR interviews: ~160

My MSAR is kind of archaic (from a late 2000s cycle), but I think these stats should be still very similar to other years. So yeah, pretty tough odds, but if you haven't gotten a rejection or (especially if) you've been given a secondary, that's a good thing, at least. I know I wouldn't get an interview if I were OOR, so congrats on making it this far! :luck:

The current MSAR information is confusing. This is what it says:

OOS Applications: 4169
OOS Interviews: 79
OOS Matriculants (including MD/PhD): 98

(11 MD/PhD, 2 deferred)

WWAMI residents considered in-state.

The current MSAR information is confusing. This is what it says:

OOS Applications: 4169
OOS Interviews: 79
OOS Matriculants (including MD/PhD): 98

(11 MD/PhD, 2 deferred)

WWAMI residents considered in-state.

I assume that's a 179?

I assume that's a 179?


So, the MSAR literally says 79. I can screenshot it for you? Maybe a typo on their part? I just tried to find this info on the UW SOM website but didn't find much.

That is probably not a typo. UW accepts very few out of state students. They are part of WWAMI http://www.uwmedicine.org/education/wwami/pages/default.aspx

From what I have heard ( from advisors at the school ), this really limits which oos's they can accept. I know of a few California residents who were not MSTP who got in (last year), but for the most part this is rare and generally reserved for non-traditional applicants.

Also I believe WWAMI are recognized as in state.

Oh no I definitely believe you! But since 79 makes no sense, I figure that it was a typo and they meant 179, or maybe 279. I guess what I mean is that I can't imagine that they interviewed 790 to fill up only 5-10% (what they say is OOR, IIRC) of their class.

Thanks all. I do know all about WWAMI and have even been advised by folks I know at UW SOM that as an OOR applicant (and non-URM) it is very unlikely that I'll gain acceptance.

I think the issue is the probable typo in the MSAR that says that they interview 79 and accept 98. I think Neuro is probably right--it could be 179.

We could continue to parse numbers...or just cross our fingers and wait :)

I actually believe the 79 interviewed from the MSAR is correct.

If you look on their website under Admissions Frequently Asked Questions and scroll down to "The Interview" section. Number 17 clearly states,

"What percentage of applicants gets interviewed? What percentage of people that gets interviews is accepted?
Within the WWAMI region, we generally interview about 600 applicants from an applicant pool of approximately 1100 per year= 55%. From an out of region pool of approximately 3500 applicants, we generally interview around 65=~2%.
Of the total 660-670 applicants interviewed, offers of admission are made to 216 applicants plus typically about 35 alternates to fill the class of 216 (216/665=32%).
A general way to remember this is that half of all applicants from the WWAMI region will be interviewed and a third of those interviewed will be accepted. We don't set these percentages in advance, but they have remained relatively consistent over the last few years. "

The "After-The-Interview" section also shows that only 48 OOR applicants were accepted, which puts the odds somewhere around 60% if you get an interview. The fuzzy part is how the MSTP applicants are taken into the equation. But still, getting an interview as an OOR applicant gives you some solid odds. It also makes you so unbelievably grateful to be considered in the first place! :eek:

Good luck to all of you still waiting to hear back.

AspiringDoc- looks like you are right! I couldn't find that info on their website when I was browsing earlier but apparently my research skills need work :)

I guess I was confused how they interviewed 79 and accepted 98 (this is why I thought it was a typo, not bc the # was so low)-- but perhaps that is where the MSTP applicants come into play!

Yeah that whole 98 acceptances/78 interviews is still confusing me...

Wow, I've never caused such a big commotion before! YAY!!!

I know at UW SOM that as an OOR applicant (and non-URM) it is very unlikely that I'll gain acceptance.

While I agree that it is extremely difficult to be accepted OOR, I just wanted to give UWs actual wording, as the above is not quite accurate:

http://www.uwmedicine.org/education/md-program/admissions/applicants/pages/applicationprocedureandrequirements.aspx

Non-WWAMI Applicants: Applicants from outside the WWAMI region who come from either economically or educationally disadvantaged backgrounds and/or who have demonstrated a commitment to serving underserved populations will be considered.

Exento you're right-- what I posted wasn't from the website but word-of-mouth from a Doc there that has done some of the interviewing. So his personal opinion/advice and not UW policy. We all have a chance folks! Good luck!

I'm OOR, got my initial letter on 9/11, got my pre-secondary rejection today. 3.75 GPA, 36 MCAT T__T

good luck to the rest of you guys!

UW - where's the love for IS re-applicants? Substantially improved my app, re-wrote and improved essays on primary and secondary but still no II. Complete 9/11

UW - where's the love for IS re-applicants? Substantially improved my app, re-wrote and improved essays on primary and secondary but still no II. Complete 9/11

Patience...

Patience...


Patients...

I'm OOR, got my initial letter on 9/11, got my pre-secondary rejection today. 3.75 GPA, 36 MCAT T__T

good luck to the rest of you guys!
I got my initial letter 9/7. This is why this site is making me neurotic.

Was it via email?

UW - where's the love for IS re-applicants? Substantially improved my app, re-wrote and improved essays on primary and secondary but still no II. Complete 9/11
I'm in the same boat! Complete on 9/13. Here's to hoping everything works out for us!

+1 IS complete 9/17, still waiting

ii yesterday, in state. Can't believe it. I'm stoked for this one. :)

ii yesterday, in state. Can't believe it. I'm stoked for this one. :)
Mind sharing when you were complete.

Rejected for interview today. 35T 3.7 GPA In-state applicant (Alaska). I thought this one was a decent shot because I have lots of ECs, 4 years of research, three majors and eight graduate courses and the GPA isn't so bad for the school I'm at, but apparently not. I'm pretty upset (if that's not obvious), because this was my top choice. I also got a somewhat-confusing message about how "we feel you show significant promise and potential and encourage you to reapply if you are not accepted elsewhere." I don't know what that's supposed to mean because it's not as if there's anything that will be fundamentally different about me if I reapply; it's not as though I'll suddenly become a better medical student. Maybe it's something they say to everyone? I don't know.

Anyways, good luck to everyone out there! Especially those of you still waiting on interviews (they'll come!). Though I guess don't get too cocky or else it will be pretty painful when your hopes get crushed. (bitter much?)

Oh, and complete on August 2.

Rejected for interview today. 35T 3.7 GPA In-state applicant (Alaska). I thought this one was a decent shot because I have lots of ECs, 4 years of research, three majors and eight graduate courses and the GPA isn't so bad for the school I'm at, but apparently not. I'm pretty upset (if that's not obvious), because this was my top choice. I also got a somewhat-confusing message about how "we feel you show significant promise and potential and encourage you to reapply if you are not accepted elsewhere." I don't know what that's supposed to mean because it's not as if there's anything that will be fundamentally different about me if I reapply; it's not as though I'll suddenly become a better medical student. Maybe it's something they say to everyone? I don't know.

Anyways, good luck to everyone out there! Especially those of you still waiting on interviews (they'll come!). Though I guess don't get too cocky or else it will be pretty painful when your hopes get crushed. (bitter much?)

Oh, and complete on August 2.


Wow. My condolences. I could have sworn that the Alaska WWAMI program interviewed everyone with >3.5 GPA and >27 MCAT. You're absolutely sure that you met the eligibility criteria for the Alaska WWAMI program? I also thought that I was in the first batch of in-state eligibility reviews (I submitted my residency paperwork mid-July), and I didn't find out I was eligible until 8/24. Are you currently living in Alaska? If not, are you in school full-time somewhere else?

P.S. I'm sure that you received a boilerplate letter; I wouldn't take it personally. However, the Alaska WWAMI program is not averse to re-applicants, and I know that they highly value demonstration of commitment to the state of Alaska, so it could help to re-apply. Also don't forget that for all medical schools, there are more qualified applicants than there are seats. A rejection does not mean that you are an unqualified applicant.

Wow. My condolences. I could have sworn that the Alaska WWAMI program interviewed everyone with >3.5 GPA and >27 MCAT. You're absolutely sure that you met the eligibility criteria for the Alaska WWAMI program? I also thought that I was in the first batch of in-state eligibility reviews (I submitted my residency paperwork mid-July), and I didn't find out I was eligible until 8/24. Are you currently living in Alaska? If not, are you in school full-time somewhere else?

P.S. I'm sure that you received a boilerplate letter; I wouldn't take it personally. However, the Alaska WWAMI program is not averse to re-applicants, and I know that they highly value demonstration of commitment to the state of Alaska, so it could help to re-apply. Also don't forget that for all medical schools, there are more qualified applicants than there are seats. A rejection does not mean that you are an unqualified applicant.

I found the link to the >3.5 GPA >27 MCAT rule, but it's from 2007. They must have changed the process since then.

http://www.uaa.alaska.edu/wwami/programs/upload/Norris_AK_Summit_07.pdf

mind sharing when you were complete.
8/30

8/30
Thanks for the response! Do you have an MDapps.

Thanks for the response! Do you have an MDapps.
Nope, here's some stats though.

3.7, 31Q, >70hrs shadowing primary care and surgery, >200 hrs clinical volunteering with developmentally delayed children and hospice patients, ~4 years research. I know they aren't too big on stats though, so I would interpret with caution. I bet it's the clinical volunteering that helped me out. We'll see though. :)

Nope, here's some stats though.

3.7, 31Q, >70hrs shadowing primary care and surgery, >200 hrs clinical volunteering with developmentally delayed children and hospice patients, ~4 years research. I know they aren't too big on stats though, so I would interpret with caution. I bet it's the clinical volunteering that helped me out. We'll see though. :)
Thanks much appreciated.

Anybody interviewed here yet? How did it go?

What does OOR stand for?