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JamesLMT
05-11-2012, 01:21 PM
New Year, New Thread!!! Discuss Away!!!

verandama
05-11-2012, 03:29 PM
Hello,

This is my first post... I am considering TCOM this cycle.

For reference, these are some previous TCOM threads:

UNTHSC/TCOM Discussion Thread 2011-2012
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=815702

UNTHSC/TCOM Discussion Thread 2010-2011
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=738411

UNTHSC/TCOM Discussion Thread 2009-2010
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=650182

UNTHSC/TCOM Discussion Thread 2008-2009
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=525691

UNTHSC/TCOM Discussion Thread 2007-2008
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=452654
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=452646

Whiteshoes
05-18-2012, 12:24 AM
does anyone know if they offer you an interview invite do they let you choose the interview date? for example if I'd like to submit asap but don't want to interview until august.

costales
05-19-2012, 05:50 AM
does anyone know if they offer you an interview invite do they let you choose the interview date? for example if I'd like to submit asap but don't want to interview until august.

They're flexible if you have a serious conflict. You'd have to ask Caroline (Admissions) when/if she calls.

bigtruckguy3500
05-19-2012, 06:27 PM
does anyone know if they offer you an interview invite do they let you choose the interview date? for example if I'd like to submit asap but don't want to interview until august.

Pretty sure they don't start interviewing until August, or maybe in the very last week of July. I'm sure they'll work with you though.

manubrium
05-19-2012, 08:43 PM
Hello,

This is my first post... I am considering TCOM this cycle.

For reference, these are some previous TCOM threads:

UNTHSC/TCOM Discussion Thread 2011-2012
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=815702

UNTHSC/TCOM Discussion Thread 2010-2011
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=738411

UNTHSC/TCOM Discussion Thread 2009-2010
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=650182

UNTHSC/TCOM Discussion Thread 2008-2009
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=525691

UNTHSC/TCOM Discussion Thread 2007-2008
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=452654
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=452646

welcome.. good list. come see the campus if you're in fw. we just had a nice graduation ceremony. commencement speaker was the president of the institute of medicine

greentrails
05-20-2012, 10:11 AM
1 - Does anyone know how TCOM notifies an applicant if there is a problem? Phone call? Email? Do they have a designated contact person for pre-meds?

2 - Is there a cutoff for each MCAT section? How about writing?

3 - Are they enforcing the DO LOR? Previous threads indicate TCOM never cared whether it's DO or MD.

4 - Does it make any difference if I take statistics now or later?

5 - If I get a secondary request, how much time do I have to reply to them?

Thanks for any information, insight, or guesses on these questions.

manubrium
05-21-2012, 06:19 AM
1 - Does anyone know how TCOM notifies an applicant if there is a problem? Phone call? Email? Do they have a designated contact person for pre-meds?

2 - Is there a cutoff for each MCAT section? How about writing?

3 - Are they enforcing the DO LOR? Previous threads indicate TCOM never cared whether it's DO or MD.

4 - Does it make any difference if I take statistics now or later?

5 - If I get a secondary request, how much time do I have to reply to them?

Thanks for any information, insight, or guesses on these questions.

tmdsas handles tcom applications. i'm sure tmdsas never calls people. if you get an interview invite, tcom does that by phone. not sure what you mean by contact person for premeds. all applicants are premeds

no official cutoff for mcat. i really believe they consider each application individually. there is a chance for an exceptional applicant with a low score. last fall somebody with a 19 got in. highest mcat was 42

that's correct you don't have to have an lor from a do. if you shadowed an md that's fine. they don't care if it's md or do. half of the physician staff here are md's anyway

stats is a new requirement. it looks like you can do it over the summer before school starts. just take it at a community college

secondary should be returned asap. the deadline is october, but as you know the early bird gets the worm

best of luck

bigtruckguy3500
05-21-2012, 07:16 AM
1 - Does anyone know how TCOM notifies an applicant if there is a problem? Phone call? Email? Do they have a designated contact person for pre-meds?

2 - Is there a cutoff for each MCAT section? How about writing?

3 - Are they enforcing the DO LOR? Previous threads indicate TCOM never cared whether it's DO or MD.

4 - Does it make any difference if I take statistics now or later?

5 - If I get a secondary request, how much time do I have to reply to them?

Thanks for any information, insight, or guesses on these questions.
1. I don't know, but I know TMDSAS will send you a message on the TMDSAS application and you'll get an e-mail saying to check it.

2. Don't think there is a cutoff.

3. I have heard that the DO letter is very important. I would try to find a DO if you could. If you can't, I don't think it'll be that big of a deal since DOs are relatively hard to come by in comparison to MDs.

4. I took statistics in a community college after I graduated. You might want to indicate it on your planned coursework.

5. Everyone gets a secondary request. Earlier the better.

greentrails
05-22-2012, 06:06 AM
Thanks, guys. I called TMDSAS and they said to follow their web site. They have a system that generates emails automatically, but they said it's up to the applicant to take care of everything.

For the DO LOR, I have been shadowing an MD family doctor so I will have a good letter from her. I know she has a friend who is a DO. I'll ask her.

I have a few more questions if you don't mind since I need more education on this:

6 - What is the focus on OMM at TCOM and clinical experience in general?

7 - How is OMM related to other courses, and what about courses that have MD professors teaching them?

8 - How about surgery? How does TCOM view surgery?

9 - What questions does TCOM ask in an interview that's different from the other schools?

Again, many thanks.

costales
05-22-2012, 10:16 AM
I have a few more questions if you don't mind since I need more education on this:

6 - What is the focus on OMM at TCOM and clinical experience in general? There is no "focus" on OMM at TCOM. OMM is a stand-alone module. You just spend like 3 hours per week in OMM lab, and you're done.

There is extensive and early hands-on training in clinical skills - physical examination, interviewing techniques, differential diagnoses, etc. - starting with the 1st semester. Students are sent out to practice on real patients in preceptorships. The length and depth of this experience is valuable for 3rd/4rd year rotations. (There is no OMM in this.)

7 - How is OMM related to other courses, and what about courses that have MD professors teaching them? OMM is not related to other courses. It's like taking PE.

8 - How about surgery? How does TCOM view surgery? Well, the TCOM dean is a thoracic/vascular surgeon, and the president is married to an ENT surgeon. A TCOM grad was on TV recently: http://www.thedoctorstv.com/videolib/init/6415

9 - What questions does TCOM ask in an interview that's different from the other schools? There might be a generic question about osteopathic principles, otherwise it's similar in content. It's more like a conversation to gauge the applicant's fit and interest. BTW, TCOM uses a closed-file format i.e. the interviewer knows next to nothing about you beforehand (including your grades), so you will likely hear “Tell me about yourself." :)

greentrails
05-22-2012, 02:34 PM
Great, thank you so much for the clarification!!

rubisco88
05-23-2012, 12:20 AM
I have a few questions about the secondary application.

When you put submit, does it submit just that page/tab or the whole secondary application.

I am not going to get my mcat score back until July, so I won't be able to complete the academic history on the secondary. Do I have to wait for my mcat score to submit the rest of my secondary? Can I submit a DO letter later but submit the rest of the secondary or do I have to wait until I get the letter to submit?

greentrails
05-23-2012, 12:17 PM
I haven't gotten that far yet, but looking at the instructions panel, it says if you hit Submit then no further changes can be made?

Fox800
05-23-2012, 12:28 PM
I have a few questions about the secondary application.

When you put submit, does it submit just that page/tab or the whole secondary application.

I am not going to get my mcat score back until July, so I won't be able to complete the academic history on the secondary. Do I have to wait for my mcat score to submit the rest of my secondary? Can I submit a DO letter later but submit the rest of the secondary or do I have to wait until I get the letter to submit?

Submit it as early as possible and then send them the MCAT score when you get it. A lof of med school applicants start applying without having their final MCAT score in yet.

HalfListic
05-26-2012, 02:41 PM
Question: I have submitted the secondary and I know you can check up on the status by logging into myUNT or something, but I can't seem to get to the right page.

I know my EUID and password, but I don't know where to log in. Maybe this is part of the secondary, to test my Interwebs skills.

Help?

greentrails
05-26-2012, 03:02 PM
I think it's this one?

https://my.unt.edu/psp/papd01/EMPLOYEE/EMPL/h/?tab=HS_GUEST

If you need additional help, the myHSC Accounts Administrator is available from 8:00 am until 5:00 pm, Monday through Friday at 817-735-2231 or AccountsAdministrator@hsc.unt.edu.

HalfListic
05-26-2012, 04:46 PM
I think it's this one?

https://my.unt.edu/psp/papd01/EMPLOYEE/EMPL/h/?tab=HS_GUEST

If you need additional help, the myHSC Accounts Administrator is available from 8:00 am until 5:00 pm, Monday through Friday at 817-735-2231 or AccountsAdministrator@hsc.unt.edu.


Thanks for the reply

This is the one I thought too, and it may be the right place, but I can't seem to log in. I always get a system error...no matter how many times I reset my password or request my ID, it just gives a system error.

bigtruckguy3500
05-27-2012, 07:45 AM
Did you get an e-mail from the schools with your pin and stuff so you could access the secondary? Or do you just create your own pin? I also have an EUID and was able to get to the secondary page.

Also, from what I recall last time I applied, their site is horribly user-unfriendly and very buggy. Not surprising that you're getting error pages. But if I recall correctly, if you can log in from that link greentails posted, there should be a tab called "HSC Admissions." From there, there appear to be two links in a box centered on the page titled "Application Status." I think that's your best bet.

If you're just getting the error when trying to logon to the page, try closing all your browsers and opening a different browser like Chrome and logging in.

Again, it's horribly buggy in my opinion.

Good luck!

HalfListic
05-27-2012, 09:17 PM
Did you get an e-mail from the schools with your pin and stuff so you could access the secondary? Or do you just create your own pin? I also have an EUID and was able to get to the secondary page.

Also, from what I recall last time I applied, their site is horribly user-unfriendly and very buggy. Not surprising that you're getting error pages. But if I recall correctly, if you can log in from that link greentails posted, there should be a tab called "HSC Admissions." From there, there appear to be two links in a box centered on the page titled "Application Status." I think that's your best bet.

If you're just getting the error when trying to logon to the page, try closing all your browsers and opening a different browser like Chrome and logging in.

Again, it's horribly buggy in my opinion.

Good luck!

thank you for this...great explanation here. I did end up having to use a different browser. And I agree, the website feels like its still being built! Oh well, I have access now, so thanks.

Fox800
06-02-2012, 08:32 AM
I'm an incoming OMS-I at TCOM. If you have any questions about the application process, I'll try to answer them. :)


UNTHSC-TCOM Class of 2016

AtlasCarraway
06-02-2012, 08:38 AM
Just clarifying...you don't get an EUID until they process your TMDSAS and email it to you right?

HalfListic
06-03-2012, 07:47 PM
Just clarifying...you don't get an EUID until they process your TMDSAS and email it to you right?

That was my experience...

AtlasCarraway
06-03-2012, 07:49 PM
So about how long after you got the "TMDSAS transmitted to schools" email did you start getting emails from the schools? I'm two weeks out and the only acknowledgement I've gotten is from Tech-El Paso.

purprose
06-03-2012, 09:09 PM
I'm also a new applicant. I attend a small college, so small that we don't have a premed advisor :(.
I was looking for TCOM information in the other osteopathic forums and didn't find much until I saw this thread and the above post (the one with the links). Many thanks to that poster!
Best of luck to us all, wherever we may end up.....

costales
06-04-2012, 05:30 AM
TMDSAS is flooded with apps this time of year. But it shouldn't take too long.

slammer922
06-05-2012, 11:01 PM
Class of 2015 here, feel free to ask anything. Everything I think has been spot on so don't have much to add except for the fact that I don't approve the thread title. Been on here for years and the the University of North Texas thing is awkward.

costales
06-05-2012, 11:15 PM
Class of 2015 here, feel free to ask anything. Everything I think has been spot on so don't have much to add except for the fact that I don't approve the thread title. Been on here for years and the the University of North Texas thing is awkward.

I agree with you. Can they still change it back?

Latuza
06-06-2012, 12:09 AM
Hi, I think we should keep the U of North Texas b/c the initials are already in the title, and I don't know schools by initials.

Question about the doctor LOR, is that required (preferably from DO but if not at least from an MD)? I only have professor/TA letters and no doctor letters.

Thank you.

TexasDocGibby
06-06-2012, 07:01 AM
Hi, I think we should keep the U of North Texas b/c the initials are already in the title, and I don't know schools by initials.

Question about the doctor LOR, is that required (preferably from DO but if not at least from an MD)? I only have professor/TA letters and no doctor letters.

Thank you.

The letter from a doctor was not required last application cycle and I only had letters from undergrad and graduate professors, but having a doctor (either DO or MD) can only benefit your application if they are able to write good and specific things about you, about your character, and about your potential. However I wouldn’t utilize a TA as a letter writer. I think a letter has more clout when it comes from a professor who has had more experience teaching, a degree candidate is not as good a reference as someone with an actual degree. You should have the TA write the letter and have the professor co-sign it. That way you get the credentials of the professor plus the benefit of a detailed letter written by someone who can indicate they have worked/taught you and know your character/ability.

Latuza
06-06-2012, 01:46 PM
The letter from a doctor was not required last application cycle and I only had letters from undergrad and graduate professors, but having a doctor (either DO or MD) can only benefit your application if they are able to write good and specific things about you, about your character, and about your potential. However I wouldn’t utilize a TA as a letter writer. I think a letter has more clout when it comes from a professor who has had more experience teaching, a degree candidate is not as good a reference as someone with an actual degree. You should have the TA write the letter and have the professor co-sign it. That way you get the credentials of the professor plus the benefit of a detailed letter written by someone who can indicate they have worked/taught you and know your character/ability.

Yeah, I have all my TA letters except 1 cosigned by professors, because the TAs know me more intimately and about my performance in lab classes. I will definitely look to see if I can obtain a doctor's letter, but it will take some time, and don't have that at this point, so just want to see if I would be disqualified from applying.

do you know if other Texas med schools require or prefer to see a doctor's letter? On TMDSAS they said the schools only want 2 letters from science professors, and only 1 extra letter will be forwarded to schools, so the doctor or other letters would need to be mailed to each school individually? Thank you very much.

AtlasCarraway
06-06-2012, 02:04 PM
I think the important thing is that whoever writes the letters can convey the fact that you have the qualities necessary to succeed as a doctor. If your intro to psychology prof can do that, then maybe he's a better choice than the orthopod that you shadowed for 2 hours that one time. Just my .02

But as to your actual question, I don't know. None of the TMDSAS schools require them though.

TexasDocGibby
06-06-2012, 03:11 PM
Yeah, I have all my TA letters except 1 cosigned by professors, because the TAs know me more intimately and about my performance in lab classes. I will definitely look to see if I can obtain a doctor's letter, but it will take some time, and don't have that at this point, so just want to see if I would be disqualified from applying.

do you know if other Texas med schools require or prefer to see a doctor's letter? On TMDSAS they said the schools only want 2 letters from science professors, and only 1 extra letter will be forwarded to schools, so the doctor or other letters would need to be mailed to each school individually? Thank you very much.

No, not having a letter from a physician will not disqualify you from any school in Texas. My pre-med advisor explained to me that sending more than just the three letters is frowned upon at some schools and others won’t accept them. If you have a MD/DO letter I would send it as my third letter to TMDSAS. So I would proceed with caution and pick three evaluators that are able to give the most concise letter about your qualifications and potential for becoming a medical profession instead of five to six mediocre letters.

Latuza
06-06-2012, 03:29 PM
No, not having a letter from a physician will not disqualify you from any school in Texas. My pre-med advisor explained to me that sending more than just the three letters is frowned upon at some schools and others won’t accept them. If you have a MD/DO letter I would send it as my third letter to TMDSAS. So I would proceed with caution and pick three evaluators that are able to give the most concise letter about your qualifications and potential for becoming a medical profession instead of five to six mediocre letters.
I see, great points, thanks! I would send my 3 best letters.

kmulo
06-06-2012, 07:19 PM
Anybody know if not sending your evaluation form with the LOR will hurt your chances in any way? I can't reach the doctor I shadowed for to complete the form, but I have a great letter from him on Interfolio. Should I just send the letter from Interfolio w/o accompanying evaluation form?
Any input appreciated.

slammer922
06-06-2012, 11:43 PM
Anybody know if not sending your evaluation form with the LOR will hurt your chances in any way? I can't reach the doctor I shadowed for to complete the form, but I have a great letter from him on Interfolio. Should I just send the letter from Interfolio w/o accompanying evaluation form?
Any input appreciated.



There's an evaluation form? Not sure if this is new but there were no eval forms during my app process. So sorry I can't answer ur question.


As for the title. TCOM is all u need to know, not north texas. Maybe I'm old school.

AtlasCarraway
06-07-2012, 09:03 AM
Just got my email from TCOM with EUID instructions.

costales
06-07-2012, 11:49 AM
Just an FYI for new folks: The degree-granting institution is UNTHSC, so physician directories at hospitals, schools and state medical boards tend to list TCOM graduates as "DO, University of North Texas Health Science Center."

Ashh
06-07-2012, 02:27 PM
Just got my email from TCOM with EUID instructions.

+1, I received mine yesterday.

HalfListic
06-07-2012, 02:52 PM
Yeah, it looks like their site is up and running!

Does anyone know when interviews begin for TCOM?

AtlasCarraway
06-07-2012, 03:09 PM
First date last year was late July. They get it rolling pretty quick

Whiteshoes
06-08-2012, 09:07 AM
+1, I received mine yesterday.

I got mines but every time I try using it to log in i get this error message

This application has experienced an error.

Access is not currently available.
Scheduled maintenance times are:
Tuesday 7:00 pm to 9:30 pm
Thursday 7:00 pm to 9:30 pm
Saturday 7:00 pm until noon Sunday

Is anyone else experiencing the same issue?

P4Pflugerville
06-10-2012, 10:47 AM
No, I completed my app and never saw anything. It went pretty smoothly for me.

Hoping for a call soon -
:luck:

HalfListic
06-11-2012, 01:01 PM
First date last year was late July. They get it rolling pretty quick

great thanks!

Saf1
06-11-2012, 05:22 PM
Sorry but I'm really confused. What is this whole evaluator part of the secondary application? I already have a general letter of recommendation from a DO being sent to TCOM through TMDSAS. Do I put that person's information in this field?

Saf1
06-11-2012, 05:24 PM
Also I just took my MCAT but I don't have the score back yet. Does anyone know what I should put in the field asking for MCAT scores? This is my retake so I put my previous score and date, then I put this upcoming date but left all the scores blank. Does that seem fine?

slammer922
06-12-2012, 12:56 AM
Also I just took my MCAT but I don't have the score back yet. Does anyone know what I should put in the field asking for MCAT scores? This is my retake so I put my previous score and date, then I put this upcoming date but left all the scores blank. Does that seem fine?

Yup. Can't put scores if you don't have them. Just update w planned test date and that's it, update the schools when u get them in

slammer922
06-12-2012, 01:01 AM
Sorry but I'm really confused. What is this whole evaluator part of the secondary application? I already have a general letter of recommendation from a DO being sent to TCOM through TMDSAS. Do I put that person's information in this field?

Ya someone else mentioned this, I don't remember this being on my secondary during our app cycle but if it was I prob left it blank. If all else fails call admissions they rock and answering all questions.

manno
06-13-2012, 10:48 AM
I am surprised that my admission status page is as shown below, is this for real?

You have been invited for an interview.
Academic Institution
Term
Academic Career
Program
Application Number
Application Date
* UNT Health Science Center
Fall 2013 Medical Term
Osteopathic Medical School
Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine

06/12/2012
This application is Complete.
Texas College of Osteopathic Medicine
Phone: 800 535 TCOM
Contact: TCOMAdmissions@unthsc.edu

AtlasCarraway
06-13-2012, 10:55 AM
Mine says: "Your application has been received. Please check your "to do" list for any outstanding items."

When did you submit?

manno
06-13-2012, 11:02 AM
Mine says: "Your application has been received. Please check your "to do" list for any outstanding items."

When did you submit?

I submitted to TMDSAS on May 29, and my secondary on June 10. Is it possible that they begin interview invites in June? I'm a Texas resident.

Saf1
06-13-2012, 11:12 AM
I find it so hard to believe anyone would be interviewing this early on in the application cycle. If I could ask, what are your stats? Maybe your numbers were so impressive they just really wanted to get to you first.

manno
06-13-2012, 11:33 AM
I find it so hard to believe anyone would be interviewing this early on in the application cycle. If I could ask, what are your stats? Maybe your numbers were so impressive they just really wanted to get to you first.

My numbers are below their average, but my graduate GPA is 3.5. I'll not believe it until I receive a call or email from the school. I will be checking my admission status if it changes, for now it shows what I posted above.

Saf1
06-13-2012, 12:03 PM
I'm trying to check my status but I can't seem to figure out where to go to see that. Any help please?

AtlasCarraway
06-13-2012, 12:06 PM
1) http://my.hsc.unt.edu/
2) Log in on the left
3) Click Admissions on the menu on the left
4) Click Application Status

MelonMan
06-13-2012, 12:48 PM
I, too, have the "you have been invited for an interview" status. I'm assuming we have the invite, but they won't send out the email or call us until closer to the interview date.

manno
06-13-2012, 01:09 PM
I, too, have the "you have been invited for an interview" status. I'm assuming we have the invite, but they won't send out the email or call us until closer to the interview date.

Really, so we have to wait for a phone call or email?

greentrails
06-13-2012, 01:17 PM
Can one of you lucky guys do us all a big favor and call them and find out? I think it would be very helpful to know if this is the procedure. I just went through the old threads and nothing like that happened. Thanks, guys.

TexasDocGibby
06-13-2012, 04:39 PM
Really, so we have to wait for a phone call or email?

You will most likely receive a phone call from Caroline in admissions setting up a date for you to come in to interview and after you set up a date you will receive a confirmation email (atleast thats how they did it last year). Interviews last year didnt start til the end of July. Goodluck!

costales
06-13-2012, 09:45 PM
Well, that's a nice feature. Think of it as a heads-up to keep an eye out for some good news. Congrats, and get ready!

HalfListic
06-13-2012, 09:51 PM
This is a question directed to current TCOM students, or someone else in the know.

I hope this is not too sensitive or taboo a subject to bring up, but does anyone have any information on current atmosphere at TCOM regarding the semi recent push to establish an MD, DO degree? I have read and know there was heated debate about this and a few faculty changes...can anyone PM me or answer here?

thanks!

costales
06-13-2012, 11:52 PM
This is a question directed to current TCOM students, or someone else in the know.

I hope this is not too sensitive or taboo a subject to bring up, but does anyone have any information on current atmosphere at TCOM regarding the semi recent push to establish an MD, DO degree? I have read and know there was heated debate about this and a few faculty changes...can anyone PM me or answer here?

thanks!

If you're referring to the MD school proposal that was extensively discussed elsewhere on SDN, it's dead. (As you probably know, it was killed in the legislature after opposition from the osteopathic community and over concerns about resources.) Other than that, I'm not aware of anything like what you're talking about.

HalfListic
06-14-2012, 12:05 PM
If you're referring to the MD school proposal that was extensively discussed elsewhere on SDN, it's dead. (As you probably know, it was killed in the legislature after opposition from the osteopathic community and over concerns about resources.) Other than that, I'm not aware of anything like what you're talking about.

We're probably talking about the same thing...here's a link:

http://eyedrd.org/2010/12/resolution-calling-for-degree.html

It was a proposal to change the degree to MD, DO (medical doctor with a diploma in Osteopathy). It seems like it ruffled some feathers and I just wondered if this is a non issue now, or if its a sensitive subject.

Either way, TCOM is the premier DO school in the country(at least among them) and has accomplished so much. They have supplied Texas with more primary care than all other Texas medical schools combined!

greentrails
06-14-2012, 01:11 PM
I heard about the new school proposal in our AMSA meeting. According to my relative who works in Austin, it will be years before Texas builds another medical school because of the budget.

On a different note, has anyone on here ever called the admissions office about anything? I imagine they have a very busy office, and I wonder how receptive they are to "dumb" questions.

nysw
06-14-2012, 01:19 PM
I am surprised that my admission status page is as shown below, is this for real?

You have been invited for an interview.
Academic Institution

Term

Academic Career

Program

Application Number

Application Date

* UNT Health Science Center
Fall 2013 Medical Term
Osteopathic Medical School
Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine

06/12/2012
This application is Complete.
Texas College of Osteopathic Medicine
Phone: 800 535 TCOM
Contact: TCOMAdmissions@unthsc.edu

Sounds legit! People started getting II's around this time last year - wait for a phone call and they'll tell you the date. Congrats!!
Also, their status pages usually come in advance of the phone call..

manubrium
06-14-2012, 03:07 PM
On a different note, has anyone on here ever called the admissions office about anything? I imagine they have a very busy office, and I wonder how receptive they are to "dumb" questions.

yes, their office is a busy place. but they're nice people,, i don't know why you hesitate. i assume it's something important to you

HalfListic
06-14-2012, 03:32 PM
yes, their office is a busy place. but they're nice people,, i don't know why you hesitate. i assume it's something important to you

Ill second that...all my communications with them have been great. Very nice people at TCOM

jp6285
06-15-2012, 05:29 AM
Saw all the talk of "is this really an interview invite," so I had to check my own..turns out I had missed that little tidbit when i checked out my application yesterday morning.

I called Caroline (btw the folks in the admission office are a nice as they come) and she said that I did in fact get an interview and they were waiting to call people until next week.

greentrails
06-15-2012, 07:30 AM
Thanks, guys. I found what I was looking for on the website, but good to know if the need arises.

And congrats to the first batch of invites! Awesome.

manno
06-15-2012, 08:31 AM
I just got a call from Carolina and my interview is July 31. I'm so excited. unbelievable!

P4Pflugerville
06-15-2012, 10:44 AM
Wow. Things are moving fast now... :xf:

COTA2Phys
06-15-2012, 12:56 PM
I just got a call from Carolina and my interview is July 31. I'm so excited. unbelievable!



Congrats :thumbup:

HalfListic
06-15-2012, 12:58 PM
I just got a call from Carolina and my interview is July 31. I'm so excited. unbelievable!


Awesome! very jealous right now ;) Hope it goes well for you, TCOM is a great school

Ashh
06-15-2012, 05:52 PM
Ahh, I still have to take my MCAT on June 21st. Why so early?!!

manno
06-15-2012, 08:16 PM
Congrats :thumbup:

thanks

manno
06-15-2012, 08:17 PM
Awesome! very jealous right now ;) Hope it goes well for you, TCOM is a great school
thanks

Texas2017
06-15-2012, 08:34 PM
Congrats to all already getting the interview invite!

Texas2017
06-15-2012, 08:35 PM
Ahh, I still have to take my MCAT on June 21st. Why so early?!!

Right there with you Ashh! My wife went to TCU and we would love to end up back in Fort Worth.

manubrium
06-16-2012, 12:46 AM
the timing seems normal. interviews run from july through december..
but i don't remember seeing that heads up status on the website when i applied, all i got was a phone call from caroline (and then she sent me an email with an agenda and instructions)
good luck to everyone!

HalfListic
06-16-2012, 10:06 AM
if anyone sees Caroline, could you let her know that I'm also ready for an interview?

thanks ;)


...I hate waiting! :boom:

TexasDocGibby
06-17-2012, 12:33 PM
if anyone sees Caroline, could you let her know that I'm also ready for an interview?

thanks ;)


...I hate waiting! :boom:

Yea you think waiting for interviews is bad it only gets worse after interviews waiting to hear about acceptances. Just weather the storm, try to keep yourself occupied so you dont stress, and stay positive through the process as much as possible. Goodluck and if you have any questions about the interview process you can send me a private message.

andy11
06-19-2012, 09:25 AM
Does anyone know how much advance notice TCOM gives for interviews? I'm at UT right now working a summer job, but I have a trip planned with family. I'm just trying to get a general idea.
Thanks a lot.

Daedra22
06-19-2012, 11:05 AM
We're probably talking about the same thing...here's a link:

http://eyedrd.org/2010/12/resolution-calling-for-degree.html

It was a proposal to change the degree to MD, DO (medical doctor with a diploma in Osteopathy). It seems like it ruffled some feathers and I just wondered if this is a non issue now, or if its a sensitive subject.

Either way, TCOM is the premier DO school in the country(at least among them) and has accomplished so much. They have supplied Texas with more primary care than all other Texas medical schools combined!

To more fully address this - there are still some people in the administration who would probably like to see UNTHSC associated with an MD degree in some way, but that is not going to happen for now. As stated earlier, Texas just doesn't have the budget for a new medical school. There were some pretty heated debates about it in 2011, but it's all gone away at this time. We are getting a pharmacy school, which most people feel will compliment TCOM very nicely.

Good luck on your applications everyone!

OccamsRazor
06-19-2012, 01:30 PM
Could someone please post the secondary prompt for this school? I'm still waiting for my primary to be verified by TMDSAS, but I am curious as to what the essay is.. It would be greatly appreciated!

AtlasCarraway
06-19-2012, 01:32 PM
http://www.utsystem.edu/tmdsas/medical/application-instructions.html#sec_application
http://www.hsc.unt.edu/education/tcom/admissions/onlineapps.cfm

You can fill it out before TMDSAS processes your primary.

MelonMan
06-19-2012, 02:00 PM
My status says im invited for an interview... I am still waiting patiently for a phone call though. :(

greentrails
06-19-2012, 09:17 PM
Does anyone know how much advance notice TCOM gives for interviews? I'm at UT right now working a summer job, but I have a trip planned with family. I'm just trying to get a general idea.
Thanks a lot.

From what I've read, maybe 2 to 4 weeks?

jp6285
06-21-2012, 05:45 AM
Has anybody that got an interview actually received that email from them? When I talked with Caroline she said that they were having trouble figuring out where to have people park due to construction on campus. I guess I have a month before any of that really matters, but it would be nice to have everything planned out as early as possible to save a few grey hairs

AtlasCarraway
06-21-2012, 01:25 PM
I've been neurotically checking my portal to see if my status has changed. I'm out of the USA right now without cell service, too, so it'll be interesting to see what happens if I'm lucky enough to get an invite and they can't reach me by phone.

HalfListic
06-21-2012, 03:54 PM
Yea you think waiting for interviews is bad it only gets worse after interviews waiting to hear about acceptances. Just weather the storm, try to keep yourself occupied so you dont stress, and stay positive through the process as much as possible. Goodluck and if you have any questions about the interview process you can send me a private message.

thank you, and I'm sure you are right! hopefully I will need to take you up on that offer...

HalfListic
06-21-2012, 03:55 PM
To more fully address this - there are still some people in the administration who would probably like to see UNTHSC associated with an MD degree in some way, but that is not going to happen for now. As stated earlier, Texas just doesn't have the budget for a new medical school. There were some pretty heated debates about it in 2011, but it's all gone away at this time. We are getting a pharmacy school, which most people feel will compliment TCOM very nicely.

Good luck on your applications everyone!

thanks for the update

slammer922
06-22-2012, 09:48 AM
Has anybody that got an interview actually received that email from them? When I talked with Caroline she said that they were having trouble figuring out where to have people park due to construction on campus. I guess I have a month before any of that really matters, but it would be nice to have everything planned out as early as possible to save a few grey hairs

Seriously parking? You'll have no problems at TCOM w parking. And if that's giving u gray hairs you'll get an ulcer planning your parking for a UT Houston invite.

slammer922
06-22-2012, 09:50 AM
I've been neurotically checking my portal to see if my status has changed. I'm out of the USA right now without cell service, too, so it'll be interesting to see what happens if I'm lucky enough to get an invite and they can't reach me by phone.

Portal usually changes before call. If u see it change just send admissions an email telling them you are out of the country.

costales
06-23-2012, 07:47 AM
Has anybody that got an interview actually received that email from them? When I talked with Caroline she said that they were having trouble figuring out where to have people park due to construction on campus.

I don't remember seeing any construction in that lot the last time I drove by. Maybe they're planning something. Whatever Caroline has in mind, it shouldn't be too far a walk.

rzoo14
06-25-2012, 09:10 PM
Good luck to all applicants! and congrats to the first batch of interviews! TCOM is a great school.

MelonMan
06-26-2012, 10:07 PM
I called the admissions office today, I was told that the person who schedules the interviews was out this week. I think it means that we'll have to wait till next week to get a call...

Une Mar
06-27-2012, 08:08 AM
http://www.utsystem.edu/tmdsas/medical/application-instructions.html#sec_application
http://www.hsc.unt.edu/education/tcom/admissions/onlineapps.cfm

You can fill it out before TMDSAS processes your primary.
Just to clarify -- can I activate an EUID before TMDSAS has finished verifying my primary application? Or do I have to wait for TCOM to contact me (with an EUID and pin) before I can view the secondary application?
Thanks :)

AtlasCarraway
06-27-2012, 09:12 AM
You have to wait for them to give you an EUID via email. But you can fill out / submit the secondary before that, you don't need a EUID for that.

JaBoomDay
06-27-2012, 03:37 PM
Thanks for the reply

This is the one I thought too, and it may be the right place, but I can't seem to log in. I always get a system error...no matter how many times I reset my password or request my ID, it just gives a system error.
I had the same problem!

JaBoomDay
06-27-2012, 03:42 PM
That's amazing that some of you guys are already getting interviews! Congratulations! Texas is an amazing school!
I'm one of the few that are fighting for the out-of-state spots. Fingers crossed! Good luck on the interviews!

manubrium
06-27-2012, 07:11 PM
you might just get in. a lot of people see the 10% oos cap and think they don't have a chance so they don't even bother. but it doesn't cost an arm and a leg to apply thru tmdsas and there is no deposit if you get accepted.

JaBoomDay
06-28-2012, 04:05 AM
you might just get in. a lot of people see the 10% oos cap and think they don't have a chance so they don't even bother. but it doesn't cost an arm and a leg to apply thru tmdsas and there is no deposit if you get accepted.
That would be awesome! I saw that not many OOS apply to the school which was encouraging. I'm just waiting on my MCAT score.

JaBoomDay
06-29-2012, 02:26 PM
TMDSAS finally transmitted my app to UNT. I was getting worried I had done something wrong because I had been sitting in processing for about 3 weeks.
Now on to the secondary...

HalfListic
06-29-2012, 02:36 PM
TMDSAS finally transmitted my app to UNT. I was getting worried I had done something wrong because I had been sitting in processing for about 3 weeks.
Now on to the secondary...

you're still plenty early...get on that secondary! :)


Anyone getting any more interview invites?? Sure would be nice

AtlasCarraway
07-01-2012, 01:13 PM
Portal status changed to "you have been invited for an interview". OOS applicant.

JaBoomDay
07-02-2012, 06:24 AM
Portal status changed to "you have been invited for an interview". OOS applicant.
Oh crap congrats!!!!!

AtlasCarraway
07-02-2012, 07:26 AM
Thanks! Hopefully you're next!

JaBoomDay
07-02-2012, 07:49 AM
Aww thanks. I hope so. I am still finishing up my secondary. Fun.. Let us know how your interview goes!
You're giving us OOS hope!

AtlasCarraway
07-02-2012, 09:23 AM
Just got off the phone with Caroline! Interview set for 7/31.

JaBoomDay
07-02-2012, 09:28 AM
:soexcited: So exciting!

squat
07-03-2012, 09:18 AM
OMM is not related to other courses. It's like taking PE.



Sounds fun, but do we have to wear those little shorts?

HalfListic
07-03-2012, 10:07 PM
Just got off the phone with Caroline! Interview set for 7/31.

congrats!

good luck

Sounds fun, but do we have to wear those little shorts?

yes...:cool:

haha

OccamsRazor
07-05-2012, 02:47 PM
Portal status says I've been invited for an interview! Very excited. :)

HalfListic
07-05-2012, 03:28 PM
Portal status says I've been invited for an interview! Very excited. :)

Congrats! :thumbup:

Are you in or out of state? Do you mind sharing your stats?

theblake
07-05-2012, 04:42 PM
Congrats!! When did you submit your secondary?

OccamsRazor
07-06-2012, 09:35 AM
Thanks! I am a Texas resident. I submitted my secondary a few days ago.

Whiteshoes
07-06-2012, 06:25 PM
Just got off the phone with Caroline! Interview set for 7/31.

My status was changed too!!
Im instate with above ave GPA and below ave MCAT.

HalfListic
07-06-2012, 07:46 PM
My status was changed too!!
Im instate with above ave GPA and below ave MCAT.

congrats!

mbowmar
07-06-2012, 07:54 PM
My status was changed too!!
Im instate with above ave GPA and below ave MCAT.

Congrats! When did you submit your TMDSAS and your secondary?

And for all of you who have received an interview already, did you have a D.O. letter or D.O. shadowing experience? Congrats to you all, so exciting!

Whiteshoes
07-06-2012, 09:16 PM
Congrats! When did you submit your TMDSAS and your secondary?

And for all of you who have received an interview already, did you have a D.O. letter or D.O. shadowing experience? Congrats to you all, so exciting!

i submitted tmdsas around 5/20 & secondary 6/5

yes to your other two questions as well..

good luck

AtlasCarraway
07-07-2012, 07:51 AM
No DO letter or experience here.

mbowmar
07-07-2012, 09:28 AM
No DO letter or experience here.

Oh okay, do you mind me asking if you were above their GPA and MCAT averages? Congrats on your interview!

HalfListic
07-07-2012, 09:31 AM
Oh okay, do you mind me asking if you were above their GPA and MCAT averages? Congrats on your interview!

Looks like he's applied to all MD schools, other than UNT, so Im guessing he has higher than TCOM ave stats,( or else he's wasting some money ;) )

AtlasCarraway
07-07-2012, 09:36 AM
Thanks! TMDSAS was submitted 5/16 and sent to schools 5/22.

I had my stats on MDApps but decided to take em down until after application season's over. I'm not sure what TCOM's average stats are, but I'm 31-34 and 3.6-3.9 range. Nothing incredible but I think that's slightly above average. Hopefully that helps fight the OOS situation.

Looks like he's applied to all MD schools, other than UNT, so Im guessing he has higher than TCOM ave stats,( or else he's wasting some money ;) )

Haha compared to my AMCAS fees...Applying to all 8 TMDSAS schools is like a drop in the bucket. My bank account is begging me to stop and I haven't even submitted any secondaries.

JaBoomDay
07-07-2012, 10:37 AM
No DO letter or experience here.
Wow really? And you're an out of state student? Must be your stats and EC's then?

I just submitted my secondary yesterday. I have tons of experience and two DO letters but my GPA is a little lower than their averages. I don't have my MCAT scores yet. I'm getting the feeling they like stats more than experience. I guess we'll see... :rolleyes:

OccamsRazor
07-07-2012, 10:56 AM
I too have zero DO experience or letters

JaBoomDay
07-07-2012, 11:07 AM
I too have zero DO experience or letters
This isn't helping my growing feelings that UNT cares more about stats than experience... :smack:

OccamsRazor
07-07-2012, 11:12 AM
Just because I don't have DO experience doesn't mean I don't have awesome EC's...It is still a medical school after all, and I have a lot of medical experience. I doubt they just looked at my stats and decided to interview me. Really, I think TX schools are awesome for looking at the whole applicant. Keep your head up and stay positive (I know easier said than done). It's still reaaaalllly early in the game. I'm right there with you on the anxiety though :) Best of luck!

JaBoomDay
07-07-2012, 11:16 AM
Just because I don't have DO experience doesn't mean I don't have awesome EC's...It is still a medical school after all, and I have a lot of medical experience. I doubt they just looked at my stats and decided to interview me. Really, I think TX schools are awesome for looking at the whole applicant. Keep your head up and stay positive (I know easier said than done). It's still reaaaalllly early in the game. I'm right there with you on the anxiety though :) Best of luck!
Sorry I read your post wrong. I thought you said you didn't have ANY experience. LOL

Anyways, I am sure you do have good EC's and you totally deserve the interview. Best of luck to you!

stareleven
07-09-2012, 10:31 AM
Hey guys, I have a couple questions regarding the secondary application for TCOM.
1. Can we go fill out the secondary on their website the second your TMDSAS is transmitted?? OR do we have to wait for them to send you an email link?
2. Does their secondary application have any essays?

Thanks!

OccamsRazor
07-09-2012, 11:08 AM
Hey guys, I have a couple questions regarding the secondary application for TCOM.
1. Can we go fill out the secondary on their website the second your TMDSAS is transmitted?? OR do we have to wait for them to send you an email link?
2. Does their secondary application have any essays?

Thanks!

1. Yes to the first. Actually, you don't have to wait until TMDSAS transmits.
2. Yes, but they're very short, like a paragraph.

stareleven
07-09-2012, 11:26 AM
Thanks! Also can you get interview invites even if they don't have the LORs yet?

Salaam
07-09-2012, 03:18 PM
Interview invite for August 7th!

Primary Complete: 6/28
Secondary Complete: 7/5

aspiringdoc09
07-09-2012, 03:22 PM
Interview invite for August 7th!

Primary Complete: 6/28
Secondary Complete: 7/5

That's quick! Your stats must be awesome.

I am applying here too as OOS.

JaBoomDay
07-09-2012, 03:53 PM
Interview invite for August 7th!

Primary Complete: 6/28
Secondary Complete: 7/5
WOW that was fast! I wish I didn't have to sit and wait for my committee letter till August 1st. So annoying.

manno
07-09-2012, 04:48 PM
Interview invite for August 7th!

Primary Complete: 6/28
Secondary Complete: 7/5

I was invited for an interview for July 30 but I switch to August 7. Have you received any email from Ms Caroline? She called me about the interview about three weeks ago, and she promised sending me an email about the interview day schedule.

theblake
07-09-2012, 05:04 PM
Interview invite for August 7th!

Primary Complete: 6/28
Secondary Complete: 7/5

That's awesome, congrats to you!! Good luck on your interview!

I am getting a bit worried, as both my primary and secondary for this school was transmitted in mid-June, I am a Texas resident, and my stats are above their average. I'm starting to suspect something is wrong with my secondary... =/ Would love to attend this school.

OccamsRazor
07-09-2012, 07:03 PM
I was invited for an interview for July 30 but I switch to August 7. Have you received any email from Ms Caroline? She called me about the interview about three weeks ago, and she promised sending me an email about the interview day schedule.

Interview for August 7th as well. :D

She told me over the phone that I wouldn't see an email for another 2 weeks and to not worry...

COTA2Phys
07-09-2012, 07:47 PM
Interview for August 7th as well. :D

She told me over the phone that I wouldn't see an email for another 2 weeks and to not worry...

Interview for August 2nd. I was told about a week and it took two, but I did get the email with the instructions today. I'm sure the office is very busy this time of year.


Also, congrats to everyone getting interviews.

Salaam
07-09-2012, 07:47 PM
That's awesome, congrats to you!! Good luck on your interview!

I am getting a bit worried, as both my primary and secondary for this school was transmitted in mid-June, I am a Texas resident, and my stats are above their average. I'm starting to suspect something is wrong with my secondary... =/ Would love to attend this school.

Thanks! I was pretty surprised. I wouldn't be concerned yet. It's still ridiculously early in the cycle.

I was invited for an interview for July 30 but I switch to August 7. Have you received any email from Ms Caroline? She called me about the interview about three weeks ago, and she promised sending me an email about the interview day schedule.

Interview for August 7th as well. :D

She told me over the phone that I wouldn't see an email for another 2 weeks and to not worry...

Good to know! I've been checking my email since the phone call. I was wondering why it never came. I guess we'll just have to wait then.

See you both on the 7th!

manno
07-09-2012, 11:26 PM
See u on the 7th. I am a Texas resident but I'll be flying from New York as i am in the Masters program at TouroCOM, New York.

redoitall
07-10-2012, 03:11 PM
I can definitely say that they don't look just at stats and that stats are not enough. I consider mine to be decent, and I submitted very early. I received an email acknowledging the receipt of my application on June 6th. I have not seen any update on my status page.
I have no DO letter and zero DO experience. A bunch of publication (as I was a scientist during my first career).
The interesting thing is that I would have guessed that TCOM, given the philosophy regarding the "applicant as a whole", would have been one of the first schools I would hear from. Puzzling...
Anyway, congratulations to all with invites. I am sure you will enjoy.

COTA2Phys
07-10-2012, 03:22 PM
Don't give up yet redoitall. It's still early in the game. Hopefully you'll hear something soon.

redoitall
07-10-2012, 03:27 PM
Don't give up yet redoitall. It's still early in the game. Hopefully you'll hear something soon.
Thx for the positive vibes. Enjoy the ride.
Heck I live in Dallas, so it would have been an easy interview to go to. Keep waiting and :xf:.

COTA2Phys
07-10-2012, 07:42 PM
Thx for the positive vibes. Enjoy the ride.
Heck I live in Dallas, so it would have been an easy interview to go to. Keep waiting and :xf:.

Hey no problem. Thanks for the well wishes too. I'm actually looking forward to the trip. I've lived in Texas all of my life, but have never visited Dallas or Ft. Worth.

In case others don't know, according to TCOM's website, Fairfield Inn next to TCOM offers a discount rate for interviews 89.99 a night.

jp6285
07-11-2012, 05:25 AM
I can definitely say that they don't look just at stats and that stats are not enough..

I can confirm that. I am a non trad with meh stats, 3.35 (3.27 sGPA) and a 32. I got an interview on 7/31 before my DO letter ever made it to them. My ECs in medicine are fairly average I guess (mostly volunteer work with a bit of MD shadowing), but I would consider the rest of my story to be rock solid. Tons of leadership experience through the Corps of Cadets at Texas A&M and the Army, lots of varied volunteer experience with undeserved populations, and success in an unrelated professional field.

JaBoomDay
07-11-2012, 07:27 AM
I can definitely say that they don't look just at stats and that stats are not enough. I consider mine to be decent, and I submitted very early. I received an email acknowledging the receipt of my application on June 6th. I have not seen any update on my status page.
I have no DO letter and zero DO experience. A bunch of publication (as I was a scientist during my first career).
The interesting thing is that I would have guessed that TCOM, given the philosophy regarding the "applicant as a whole", would have been one of the first schools I would hear from. Puzzling...
Anyway, congratulations to all with invites. I am sure you will enjoy.

Wow that is puzzling. I hope you get the call soon! It sounds like you have a lot to offer.

My committee letter is seriously delaying this process for me. I'm getting so frustrated. I hope it doesn't mess things up too badly but I won't have my committee letter until August 1st.

FutureDoc3616
07-11-2012, 09:05 AM
I have been trying to find my application status page on TCOM's site but I can't seem to. All I can find is the place where you go to complete the secondary and I put in my ID and PIN and it just says that my application is complete so I can't see it.

Do you guys have the link to the application status page? thanks! and good luck!

AtlasCarraway
07-11-2012, 09:06 AM
1) http://my.hsc.unt.edu/
2) Log in on the left
3) Click Admissions on the menu on the left
4) Click Application Status

mbowmar
07-11-2012, 10:59 AM
Do you all think that TCOM is sending out interview invites to 30+ MCAT, above average GPA's first? It seems that a lot of people on here that have already received interviews have 32-36 MCAT's

manubrium
07-11-2012, 11:22 AM
there is some kind of queuing & juggling algorithm but i doubt it's based on stats alone, judging from my experience & others'.

redoitall
07-11-2012, 12:13 PM
Do you all think that TCOM is sending out interview invites to 30+ MCAT, above average GPA's first? It seems that a lot of people on here that have already received interviews have 32-36 MCAT's
No, probably not. 36 MCAT here, with 4.0 uGPA. No invite and submitted early.
So it is not about numbers, but more likely a comprehensive look at the application. I know that another individual with 37MCAT and good GPA didn't get invited either, almost as "if numbers didn't work for you".
I don't know what it is, but again, I got confirmation early june that they received my app, and nothing ever since...
Oh and I got 2 invites from other TX schools, so definitely TCOM just found something that didn't work out for them in my app.

JaBoomDay
07-11-2012, 12:26 PM
There is a pretty detailed explanation of how they pick their students on their website. They have this scoring system based on several factors. Scores range from 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest (Cognitive values: 5; Non-cognitive values: 5).
Here is a link that explains it fully:
http://www.hsc.unt.edu/education/tcom/admissions/Admissionsreqs.cfm

redoitall
07-11-2012, 12:56 PM
Ah OK.
Too bad they don't actually release that score. I think there are things that I have and other that I don't, so all in all, I would expect to have an average score, perhaps explaining why I didn't receive any invite.

HalfListic
07-11-2012, 01:02 PM
Ah OK.
Too bad they don't actually release that score. I think there are things that I have and other that I don't, so all in all, I would expect to have an average score, perhaps explaining why I didn't receive any invite.

There is always the idea that you are more likely to accept an MD offer with your stats...many DO schools would turn you down. If you really want to go DO, I think a letter of interest might suit your situation. Just a thought

JaBoomDay
07-11-2012, 01:04 PM
There is always the idea that you are more likely to accept an MD offer with your stats...many DO schools would turn you down. If you really want to go DO, I think a letter of interest might suit your situation. Just a thought
:thumbup: Totally agree.

redoitall
07-11-2012, 01:32 PM
There is always the idea that you are more likely to accept an MD offer with your stats...many DO schools would turn you down. If you really want to go DO, I think a letter of interest might suit your situation. Just a thought

WIth a wife and 2 kids, along with a mortgage in Dallas, The two top choice schools are in Dallas for me, based purely on pragmatic circumstances. I didn't even fill up AMCAS because it wouldn't be feasible for me to leave the state (cost and distance).
From there, I would be willing to go to any school that accepts me in TX, of course looking at distance as the main factor.
Do yeah, the DO is quite up there. But I wouldn't quite understand that they would discard me just because of my numbers. There must be something missing in my app.
Note that 3 years ago, I went to visit the Director of Admission. Quite frankly he was quite discouraging, namely because I have a foreign PhD and would have to retake all my pre-reqs, which I have done since (still a few missing). So from the get go, I must say that I didn't receive the echo from this school that I did from the MD school in Dallas, where they actually were quite encouraging.
Not to say that the MD school (UTSW which is very competitive) will accept me, but quite honestly, after leaving the admission office of the DO school, I figured, there is no way I will make it here...
So it is not all about numbers. I do hope though that I am not discarded because I have better MD chance. That would be very sad. I am repeating to myself that this is a lack of DO letter or shadowing, most likely and volunteering that is not on par with others.
So at some point, I may well follow the advice about the letter of intent. Along with the appointment 3 years ago, perhaps it will show some motivation, and perhaps even enough to warrant an interview. Who knows.

mbowmar
07-11-2012, 02:28 PM
I received a confirmation e-mail from TCOM on 6/20 saying that they had received my TMDSAS. Then a confirmation e-mail for my secondary on 6/28. If I haven't heard anything from them regarding an interview offer yet, does that mean that I probably won't be getting an interview? It just seems like people who submitted their secondary later than me have already received interviews and I haven't heard anything, so does that mean that they've already looked through everything and decided not give me an offer?

Thanks for any insight!

manubrium
07-11-2012, 02:30 PM
i have a friend at a&m med school who got rejected by tcom post-interview. so yeah... anyhow it's way too early to worry about anything.

JaBoomDay
07-11-2012, 02:32 PM
I received a confirmation e-mail from TCOM on 6/20 saying that they had received my TMDSAS. Then a confirmation e-mail for my secondary on 6/28. If I haven't heard anything from them regarding an interview offer yet, does that mean that I probably won't be getting an interview? It just seems like people who submitted their secondary later than me have already received interviews and I haven't heard anything, so does that mean that they've already looked through everything and decided not give me an offer?

Thanks for any insight!
Did you log-in and check your application status to see if there is an answer there?

Salaam
07-11-2012, 02:36 PM
There is always the idea that you are more likely to accept an MD offer with your stats...many DO schools would turn you down. If you really want to go DO, I think a letter of interest might suit your situation. Just a thought

I don't think that's completely true. I know quite a few people with MCAT/GPA well above TCOM's average who have interviewed there. It's still SUPER early in the cycle, hence why not everyone who will interview has received an invite. It's barely July!

redoitall
07-11-2012, 02:36 PM
Did you log-in and check your application status to see if there is an answer there?
Yeah, like every 3 minutes (i know the question was not for me though:D)

manubrium
07-11-2012, 02:57 PM
there is no way they could have gone through all the apps. plus tcom is not real full-strength because it's still summer vacation. i don't think all faculty members are back - and the committee is made up of faculty... but, everyone is coming back soon - the incoming class is matriculating next week.

mbowmar
07-11-2012, 02:59 PM
Yeah, like every 3 minutes (i know the question was not for me though:D)

haha yeah same!! That's why I am starting to worry... :/ It just worries me since people are already getting invites who submitted later than me. Hoping that it's just taking them longer to read my stuff and that they haven't completely discarded me from the interview invite pile yet!

manno
07-11-2012, 04:34 PM
I do not think is all about numbers because my numbers are below their averages, however, my graduate GPA is 3.5 and I have my interview on August 7.

jp6285
07-12-2012, 05:33 AM
Yeah, like every 3 minutes

Its enough to give you a complex. I jump every time I get an email just to find out that my wife has signed up for some other random retailers email list.

JaBoomDay
07-12-2012, 05:51 AM
Its enough to give you a complex. I jump every time I get an email just to find out that my wife has signed up for some other random retailers email list.
LOL! I jump out of my skin too when my phone beeps for an email.

redoitall
07-12-2012, 06:09 AM
LOL! I jump out of my skin too when my phone beeps for an email.
I am such an addict, I have even paid 99 cents for the SDN mobile application. It works great. It may become a bit too cannibalizing though.
I am frantically checking UT San Antonio and Texas A&M threads because given the timing last year, the first invites will go out in a few days.

bigtruckguy3500
07-12-2012, 09:33 AM
I can confirm that. I am a non trad with meh stats, 3.35 (3.27 sGPA) and a 32. I got an interview on 7/31 before my DO letter ever made it to them. My ECs in medicine are fairly average I guess (mostly volunteer work with a bit of MD shadowing), but I would consider the rest of my story to be rock solid. Tons of leadership experience through the Corps of Cadets at Texas A&M and the Army, lots of varied volunteer experience with undeserved populations, and success in an unrelated professional field.

What year are you from A&M?

jp6285
07-13-2012, 05:16 AM
Texas A&M c/o '07

greentrails
07-13-2012, 07:54 AM
Does anyone want to venture an explanation for the 19 MCAT?

All I could think of is the JAMP program, of which TCOM is a participant:
http://www.utsystem.edu/jamp/whoweare/leadership.htm

Just wondering.

manubrium
07-13-2012, 09:17 AM
or they had a compelling case for admission. which shows the process is not 100% rigid. (in fact, there are med schools that admit students without mcat scores; recent example is http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/30/nyregion/30medschools.html?_r=1

bigtruckguy3500
07-13-2012, 03:01 PM
Texas A&M c/o '07

Reasonable chance I whipped out to you in our 2 years of overlap.

jp6285
07-14-2012, 05:19 AM
Reasonable chance I whipped out to you in our 2 years of overlap.

Ah, the good old days, life was so much simpler back then. What outfit where you in?

stareleven
07-14-2012, 09:39 AM
Hey guys,

There are some question in the TCOM secondary such as " if there are changes in TMDSAS application ...please indicate them" or "do you consider yourself disadvantaged"

If you don't have anything to write for those questions, did you leave it blank, or did you type in "Not applicable" in the text areas??

redoitall
07-14-2012, 11:59 AM
Either way, they are smart enough to figure it out. Personnally I left them blank.

Sent with SDN mobile. Excuse brevity and misspellings.

COTA2Phys
07-14-2012, 03:44 PM
^^ If I remember correctly, I did the same.

Salaam
07-15-2012, 03:23 PM
Does anyone want to venture an explanation for the 19 MCAT?

All I could think of is the JAMP program, of which TCOM is a participant:
http://www.utsystem.edu/jamp/whoweare/leadership.htm

Just wondering.

JAMP participants still have to make at least a 26 on the MCAT to have their guaranteed admission.

costales
07-15-2012, 07:10 PM
No one is privy to the story behind that number, so I wouldn't waste time speculating about it. Besides, once you're in med school, the only number that matters is your score on the next exam (and the next one, and the next one - and rinse and repeat for 7+ years).

bigtruckguy3500
07-16-2012, 08:11 AM
Ah, the good old days, life was so much simpler back then. What outfit where you in?
I was N1.

Does anyone want to venture an explanation for the 19 MCAT?


Aside from that MCAT, must've had one heck of an application. I doubt it was a traditional student, but you never know.

impsqb07
07-16-2012, 09:04 AM
Interview invite for August 7th!

Primary Complete: 6/28
Secondary Complete: 7/5

Just got off the phone...also interviewing August 7th. Congrats, and I'll see you there!

Whiteshoes
07-16-2012, 01:47 PM
Does anyone know which days TCOM interviews? I heard it was Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays? Can anyone confirm?

jp6285
07-17-2012, 05:18 AM
Tuesday interviews sounds right. Mine is on 7/31 and the only other date Ive seen is 8/7, both are Tuesdays

JaBoomDay
07-17-2012, 05:38 AM
Tuesday interviews sounds right. Mine is on 7/31 and the only other date Ive seen is 8/7, both are Tuesdays
:love: Are you excited????? Have your interview clothes nice and crisp?

jp6285
07-17-2012, 06:29 AM
Really excited. To be totally honest I'd probably take tcom over most the MD schools. Part of me wants to only get in there to keep from catching crap about choosing a DO over MD.

As far as the interview clothes go, I've got a great Hawaiian shirt pressed and ready to go. The only thing left to decide is flip flops or boat shoes. I'm thinking Sperry's, I mean it is a Med school interview.

jp6285
07-17-2012, 06:32 AM
Here's a question for current students. Unt is known for making UT Austin look conservative, does that transfer to the Med school?

JaBoomDay
07-17-2012, 06:55 AM
Really excited. To be totally honest I'd probably take tcom over most the MD schools. Part of me wants to only get in there to keep from catching crap about choosing a DO over MD.

As far as the interview clothes go, I've got a great Hawaiian shirt pressed and ready to go. The only thing left to decide is flip flops or boat shoes. I'm thinking Sperry's, I mean it is a Med school interview.
:laugh: Don't forget the hawaiian lei!

bigtruckguy3500
07-17-2012, 08:33 AM
Really excited. To be totally honest I'd probably take tcom over most the MD schools. Part of me wants to only get in there to keep from catching crap about choosing a DO over MD.

As far as the interview clothes go, I've got a great Hawaiian shirt pressed and ready to go. The only thing left to decide is flip flops or boat shoes. I'm thinking Sperry's, I mean it is a Med school interview.

I think DO is actually better than MD. If you're going for a military residency, then it won't matter at all. If you're going for a civilian residency, then I think it might matter a little bit, but your board scores are what will really matter the most - or so I'm told.

Dressing like that it sounds like you're an E2 fighter. But I think you're a street fighter, right?

Here's a question for current students. Unt is known for making UT Austin look conservative, does that transfer to the Med school?

No, UNT HSC is a completely separate campus quite far away from Denton. And they don't have anything close to a North Gate or a 6th Street. But they do have a 7th street that is relatively close to campus, but it's not really a college student hang out.

costales
07-17-2012, 08:52 AM
Here's a question for current students. Unt is known for making UT Austin look conservative, does that transfer to the Med school?

The atmosphere is easygoing and laid back, but TCOM is not a place for slackers. The pace is grueling in some classes, and many of the exams are brutal. But most students here are serious when it comes to study, and it works out well. (Partly because nobody wants an invite to the student performance committee. LOL.)

Otherwise, there are not many rules. Med school is hard enough as it is, so everyone tries to help. The profs really are a good bunch, and they take student feedback seriously - I've seen this many times.

theblake
07-17-2012, 09:47 AM
Does anyone know how long it takes to get a phone call after your status changes to "invited for interview"?

Whiteshoes
07-17-2012, 05:41 PM
Does anyone know how long it takes to get a phone call after your status changes to "invited for interview"?

yeah I'd like to know that as well. It's been about 10 days since my status was changed but still no call. Now I jump every time my phone rings :(

COTA2Phys
07-17-2012, 06:06 PM
yeah I'd like to know that as well. It's been about 10 days since my status was changed but still no call. Now I jump every time my phone rings :(

It took a couple of weeks for me. I did the same thing when the phone rang lol

COTA2Phys
07-17-2012, 06:08 PM
Tuesday interviews sounds right. Mine is on 7/31 and the only other date Ive seen is 8/7, both are Tuesdays



Mine is on August 2nd, which is a Thursday. The only dates I've see on SDN are July 31st and August 7th though.

P4Pflugerville
07-17-2012, 06:56 PM
My status changed! I'm ecstatic. I wish I could set a special ringtone for Caroline! :love:

(My stats are just above average, plus two years working full-time in healthcare to support a struggling family).

COTA2Phys
07-17-2012, 07:23 PM
Awesome! Congrats!

P4Pflugerville
07-17-2012, 09:11 PM
Thanks! I hope she calls soon.

Good luck to us all!!! :luck:

stareleven
07-18-2012, 12:29 AM
how long after your primary is transmitted and secondary is submitted is that you get your log in information?

Also, do they invite you to interviews if they don't have your letters?

jp6285
07-18-2012, 05:20 AM
how long after your primary is transmitted and secondary is submitted is that you get your log in information?

Also, do they invite you to interviews if they don't have your letters?

Took about a week maybe two for me. I got my invite before my extra DO letter got there, but the other ones had at least made it to TMDSAS.

Dressing like that it sounds like you're an E2 fighter. But I think you're a street fighter, right?
Yup, and if you got that just from my initials, i guess we can safely assume you did whip out at one point

manubrium
07-18-2012, 08:00 AM
Does anyone know which days TCOM interviews? I heard it was Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays? Can anyone confirm?

it's tuesdays and thursdays. the administrative offices are closed on weekends

manubrium
07-18-2012, 08:10 AM
The atmosphere is easygoing and laid back, but TCOM is not a place for slackers. The pace is grueling in some classes, and many of the exams are brutal. But most students here are serious when it comes to study, and it works out well. (Partly because nobody wants an invite to the student performance committee. LOL.)

Otherwise, there are not many rules. Med school is hard enough as it is, so everyone tries to help. The profs really are a good bunch, and they take student feedback seriously - I've seen this many times.

no kidding. new students are getting an ipad on top of their ultrabook because we suggested it...

costales
07-18-2012, 09:20 AM
Wow. Great combo IMO. Ditching the HP/Dell tablets is a good move, although they were the best choice at the time and served their purpose rather well (I still use mine daily). Maybe with computer prices coming down, there'll be room to add a Kindle Fire which I highly recommend for rotations - much easier to carry around.

stareleven
07-18-2012, 11:04 AM
thanks!!!!

jp6285
07-19-2012, 05:07 AM
no kidding. new students are getting an ipad on top of their ultrabook because we suggested it...
wait...what? is that built into fees or out of pocket?

manubrium
07-19-2012, 06:54 AM
no it's not out of pocket. the technology bundle is standardized and it is part of your tuition/fees. the amount allotted is fixed but since computers get better and cheaper with time, the incoming 1st years always get the best deal. the warranty & support is excellent.
btw health insurance and medical equipment are also paid out ot tuition if you don't have your own.

mbowmar
07-20-2012, 03:55 PM
Okay, so is it about time to start worrying now? I received the confirmation e-mail from TCOM on 6/28... still no interview invite... all it says in portal is "Application is Complete." I don't know if the fact that I am still waiting on my second MCAT score to be released affects them reviewing my application and making a decision for an interview? Anyone know?

HalfListic
07-20-2012, 06:05 PM
Okay, so is it about time to start worrying now? I received the confirmation e-mail from TCOM on 6/28... still no interview invite... all it says in portal is "Application is Complete." I don't know if the fact that I am still waiting on my second MCAT score to be released affects them reviewing my application and making a decision for an interview? Anyone know?

No, not worry time yet...still a lot of the season left ;)

costales
07-20-2012, 06:59 PM
Okay, so is it about time to start worrying now? I received the confirmation e-mail from TCOM on 6/28... still no interview invite... all it says in portal is "Application is Complete."

The night is young, my friend. I wouldn't read anything into the silence.

laizchips
07-21-2012, 12:50 PM
Hey it's still early, they will review your app multiple times. Gotta learn to love the process just like you had to learn to love studying for the MCAT -.-

UrshumMurshum
07-21-2012, 12:58 PM
Does TCOM want to see a DO letter or are they less inclined than the other schools?

HalfListic
07-21-2012, 05:32 PM
I get the feeling they don't care as much, especially if your stats are right

redoitall
07-21-2012, 06:07 PM
I get the feeling they don't care as much, especially if your stats are right

Hate to bring this again, but no DO letter here, decent stats and unfortunately, silence...
So they might care about a DO letter.
Sent with SDN mobile. Excuse brevity and misspellings.

jp6285
07-22-2012, 05:53 AM
Hate to bring this again, but no DO letter here, decent stats and unfortunately, silence...
So they might care about a DO letter.

I posted earlier that I got my invite before my DO letter ever left his office (thanks for being on time with your letter, doc).

I certainly didnt blow them away with my stats (32, 3.35), so maybe they clicked on the wrong app or something. From what Ive seen from this board and the MD boards, the people getting interviews are people with top 5% stats and then a few totally random invites here and there. No clue what merits one of the seemingly "random" invite at one school and not another.

costales
07-22-2012, 07:21 AM
I don't think TCOM was ever hardcore about the DO letter, since very few people I know had one when they applied.

manno
07-22-2012, 10:52 AM
I posted earlier that I got my invite before my DO letter ever left his office (thanks for being on time with your letter, doc).

I certainly didnt blow them away with my stats (32, 3.35), so maybe they clicked on the wrong app or something. From what Ive seen from this board and the MD boards, the people getting interviews are people with top 5% stats and then a few totally random invites here and there. No clue what merits one of the seemingly "random" invite at one school and not another.

You may be right about "random invites here and there," because my stat is below their average and I had my interview invite more than a month ago.

manno
07-22-2012, 10:55 AM
I don't think TCOM was ever hardcore about the DO letter, since very few people I know had one when they applied.

I did not have a DO letter but i have an interview invite. The DO letter is not required as stated in their secondary.

jp6285
07-23-2012, 05:05 AM
For purposes of hedging and looking way too far out into the future (and there arent different boards for different application years) does anybody know how deep into their wait list that TCOM normally gets? My guess for all DO schools is that they generally have dig a little deeper than a lot of MD schools, but I wonder how many of the 230ish came off a wait list.

manubrium
07-23-2012, 06:46 AM
i don't think anyone has good data on this except the tmdsas system and the individual schools
people have been called off the waitlist in july but i suspect the waitlist is short after the tmdsas deadline and it's probably due to the domino effect from movement in the oos pool across all tx med schools (like somebody in another state gets their in-state spot and vacates their oos spot in tx etc.)

snn17
07-23-2012, 02:03 PM
I was wondering how interviews went for people who've already interviewed there. My interview is on Aug. 9th.

bigtruckguy3500
07-23-2012, 02:28 PM
Regarding the DO letter, I think if you're borderline in your stats, I'd definitely try and get one. If you're up there in your stats, you can probably be ok without it.

For purposes of hedging and looking way too far out into the future (and there arent different boards for different application years) does anybody know how deep into their wait list that TCOM normally gets? My guess for all DO schools is that they generally have dig a little deeper than a lot of MD schools, but I wonder how many of the 230ish came off a wait list.

I know quite a few people that moved in off the TCOM waitlist. So I'd imagine they have quite a bit of waitlist movement.

redoitall
07-23-2012, 06:36 PM
Regarding the DO letter, I think if you're borderline in your stats, I'd definitely try and get one. If you're up there in your stats, you can probably be ok without it.
Hence the mystery... (MCAt=36P, uGPA = sGPA = 4 and cGPA=3.69) Some have suggested that it may be because I might have the opportunity to go MD. I have also read that I should perhaps email Admissions with a letter of interest/intent. I am just waiting a bit till the next wave of invites. If I still don't get anything, I am planning on emailing them. I am sad quite honestly as I had high hopes. I have a 2 MD invites but still, really wanted this one as well.
Do you guys think it is too early to email them?

HalfListic
07-23-2012, 07:09 PM
Hence the mystery... (MCAt=36P, uGPA = sGPA = 4 and cGPA=3.69) Some have suggested that it may be because I might have the opportunity to go MD. I have also read that I should perhaps email Admissions with a letter of interest/intent. I am just waiting a bit till the next wave of invites. If I still don't get anything, I am planning on emailing them. I am sad quite honestly as I had high hopes. I have a 2 MD invites but still, really wanted this one as well.
Do you guys think it is too early to email them?

Do you want to go to TCOM over the other MD school? If so, write them and tell them why...LOI. I think you are wise to wait one more round as to not come off as entitled, but I bet they are holding back because of the higher possibility that you will go MD.

If you are planning to go MD, don't write them, obviously. You will get an MD acceptance, if you've applied correctly, so I'd be sure to think about and know a great answer to why DO if you interview here.

Good luck to ya

bigtruckguy3500
07-23-2012, 07:51 PM
Hence the mystery... (MCAt=36P, uGPA = sGPA = 4 and cGPA=3.69) Some have suggested that it may be because I might have the opportunity to go MD. I have also read that I should perhaps email Admissions with a letter of interest/intent. I am just waiting a bit till the next wave of invites. If I still don't get anything, I am planning on emailing them. I am sad quite honestly as I had high hopes. I have a 2 MD invites but still, really wanted this one as well.
Do you guys think it is too early to email them?
Relax man. It's only July. If all the schools stacked their 4.0/36 applicants at the beginning of the season there'd be way too much overlap, and then there'd only be the dumb folks left to interview near the end. If you don't get an invite by the time the late September interviews go out, then I might send in a letter. But even then, they've got time to interview up till January, and possibly into January as well.

TCOM is a REALLY good school. If it was an MD school, it would be one of the most popular picks in Texas. If you really want to go to TCOM, and can see yourself turning down other schools, then go ahead and send your letter sooner than later.

redoitall
07-23-2012, 08:00 PM
OK Thanks guys for the input.
I certainly do not want to appear as entitled. There is more to an application than stats. As for my desire to go to TCOM, I would pick it over to certain MD schools but not all, largely due to geography more than anything else. I live in Dallas, and given my financial responsibilities and issues, it could be the only way for to become a physician. So definitely a top choice.
I guess I will wait and see, and hope...

Thanks again for the input and continued support. Much appreciated. I wish you all the best of luck. Who knows, we may be classmates some day.

greentrails
07-23-2012, 11:53 PM
My MD mentor thinks TCOM has a very well run, high quality program. He said if it was an MD school it would easily rank in the mid tier.

An unrelated question: It looks like there is a large number of schools represented at TCOM. Does anyone in the know have an idea what the top three are? Also, where do the OOS students come from?

Just curious.

rcheech7
07-24-2012, 12:04 AM
Hi guys I'm from OOS and I already had my TMDSAS and stuff filled out ready to be submitted, but I decided not to apply to Texas schools.

I have been thinking about submitting it mostly for TCOM and I wanted to know if you guys thought with my stats I have a good chance.

cGPA: 3.49 sGPA: 3.4 MCAT: 29O

You can look at my MDApps for more information.

What do you guys think?

bigtruckguy3500
07-24-2012, 03:26 AM
Hi guys I'm from OOS and I already had my TMDSAS and stuff filled out ready to be submitted, but I decided not to apply to Texas schools.

I have been thinking about submitting it mostly for TCOM and I wanted to know if you guys thought with my stats I have a good chance.

cGPA: 3.49 sGPA: 3.4 MCAT: 29O

You can look at my MDApps for more information.

What do you guys think?

If you've got a good reason to want to be in Texas, I'd go ahead and apply. You've got a good shot if you can convince the ad-com that you want to go to school in Texas and/or you've got strong ties to Texas.

COTA2Phys
07-24-2012, 04:58 AM
An unrelated question: It looks like there is a large number of schools represented at TCOM. Does anyone in the know have an idea what the top three are?

Looking at previous years threads, A&M is pretty highly represented.

jp6285
07-24-2012, 05:28 AM
I was wondering how interviews went for people who've already interviewed there. My interview is on Aug. 9th.

I'm pretty sure the first interview date is 7/31


Hence the mystery... (MCAt=36P, uGPA = sGPA = 4 and cGPA=3.69) Some have suggested that it may be because I might have the opportunity to go MD. I have also read that I should perhaps email Admissions with a letter of interest/intent. I am just waiting a bit till the next wave of invites. If I still don't get anything, I am planning on emailing them. I am sad quite honestly as I had high hopes. I have a 2 MD invites but still, really wanted this one as well.
Do you guys think it is too early to email them?

You really shouldnt have written in your secondary that you have a general dislike of people, hate hearing their sob stories, and are really just looking for a way to make a ton of cash. I think that is probably holding you back

manubrium
07-24-2012, 06:14 AM
there is one day during orientation that people wear their school t-shirt to show their school pride. from that and talking to upperclassmen, my guess for top three: ut austin, texas a&m, baylor (just a guess, i could be wrong).
oos students come from all over, most notably u of calif campuses, big ten schools, brigham young..
the variety is huge ranging from ivy league to school nobody ever heard of

snn17
07-24-2012, 10:57 AM
I'm pretty sure the first interview date is 7/31

Thanks for telling me. I didn't know that.

Latuza
07-24-2012, 11:28 AM
Hi guys I'm from OOS and I already had my TMDSAS and stuff filled out ready to be submitted, but I decided not to apply to Texas schools.

I have been thinking about submitting it mostly for TCOM and I wanted to know if you guys thought with my stats I have a good chance.

cGPA: 3.49 sGPA: 3.4 MCAT: 29O

You can look at my MDApps for more information.


You're only competitive for TCOM, not other TX med schools, so I do not recommend that you apply, unless you've got money to spare and would like the cheap OOS tuition that TX offers. However, judging that you're applying broadly anyway, why not TCOM?

You're quite competitive for your home state New Mexico MD school, which you should go for first.

SushiBoat
07-24-2012, 02:54 PM
Just got the interview invite today, 8/21 :)! Super excited. I'm not sure if this was posted somewhere and I just missed it but could someone give a little overview of what kind of interviews TCOM does as well as a schedule of what the day will be like? Thanks!

rcheech7
07-24-2012, 03:13 PM
You're only competitive for TCOM, not other TX med schools, so I do not recommend that you apply, unless you've got money to spare and would like the cheap OOS tuition that TX offers. However, judging that you're applying broadly anyway, why not TCOM?

You're quite competitive for your home state New Mexico MD school, which you should go for first.

I would love to go to UNM, but I realize that since they are the only school in my state I definitely don't want to put all my eggs in one basket and there are many schools around the country that I would love to go to.

I think I may add TCOM, because I could definitely see myself living in Texas. I will think about it a little more.

redoitall
07-24-2012, 03:29 PM
You really shouldnt have written in your secondary that you have a general dislike of people, hate hearing their sob stories, and are really just looking for a way to make a ton of cash. I think that is probably holding you back

At least it is not the part about partying all the time, with lots of booze!:laugh:

jp6285
07-25-2012, 05:40 AM
Well now that we are less than a week away from interview time, does anybody have any good prep ideas?

costales
07-25-2012, 10:03 AM
My $.02:

1. Read something about osteopathic medicine, in case somebody asks. A good summary:
http://www.westernu.edu/osteopathy-philosophy
(The founding principles, which constitute the "holistic" approach, sound like common sense and in fact have been assimilated and adopted by others, but they were novel at the time. Be aware that modern DO training is practically identical to MD training with the addition of OMM).

2. Read something about our healthcare problem and "Obamacare" - what, why, when. This is a common interview topic.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/06/01/090601fa_fact_gawande?printable=true
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303644004577523260331816978.html
(This is not a political litmus test. The interviewer just wants to see if you know what's going on and how well you present an argument with fact-based reasoning).

3. Read something about medical ethics, which is another common topic. Lots of good sources on the web - for example:
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/medical-ethics-for-dummies-cheat-sheet.html
http://dept.lamar.edu/biology/preprofessional/Medical%20school%20interview%2071404.htm
(The Lamar website has great questions and hypotheticals, but some are irrelevant and outdated - we now have a physician shortage, not surplus. Just pick what you can use).

4. Review your application materials. Get ready to tell your story. Your interviewers have some basic info about you and not much else. They don't know your GPA or MCAT score (and they probably don't care). They want to know that you like this school, you work hard and play well with others, and you have the capacity to persevere and succeed in med school and beyond as a physician.

5. Plan your trip - transportation, hotel, map, etc. Get a suit if you don't have one. Dress conservatively, like you're applying for a corporate job. Look nice and professional.

Good luck to everyone!

costales
07-25-2012, 10:56 AM
Just got the interview invite today, 8/21 :)! Super excited. I'm not sure if this was posted somewhere and I just missed it but could someone give a little overview of what kind of interviews TCOM does as well as a schedule of what the day will be like? Thanks!

The email from Caroline should have details, but in general interview day consists of a presentation, lunch, campus tour with current students, and two interviews (typically one interviewer is chosen from research faculty and one clinical; your interviewer may be a PhD, DO, or MD). The interviews are informal in tone and structure.

COTA2Phys
07-25-2012, 12:00 PM
My $.02:

1. Read something about osteopathic medicine, in case somebody asks. A good summary:
http://www.westernu.edu/osteopathy-philosophy
(The founding principles, which constitute the "holistic" approach, sound like common sense and in fact have been assimilated and adopted by others, but they were novel at the time. Be aware that modern DO training is practically identical to MD training with the addition of OMM).

2. Read something about our healthcare problem and "Obamacare" - what, why, when. This is a common interview topic.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/06/01/090601fa_fact_gawande?printable=true
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303644004577523260331816978.html
(This is not a political litmus test. The interviewer just wants to see if you know what's going on and how well you present an argument with fact-based reasoning).

3. Read something about medical ethics, which is another common topic. Lots of good sources on the web - for example:
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/medical-ethics-for-dummies-cheat-sheet.html
http://dept.lamar.edu/biology/preprofessional/Medical%20school%20interview%2071404.htm
(The Lamar website has great questions and hypotheticals, but some are irrelevant and outdated - we now have a physician shortage, not surplus. Just pick what you can use).

4. Review your application materials. Get ready to tell your story. Your interviewers have some basic info about you and not much else. They don't know your GPA or MCAT score (and they probably don't care). They want to know that you like this school, you work hard and play well with others, and you have the capacity to persevere and succeed in med school and beyond as a physician.

5. Plan your trip - transportation, hotel, map, etc. Get a suit if you don't have one. Dress conservatively, like you're applying for a corporate job. Look nice and professional.

Good luck to everyone!

Thanks for the info Costales :thumbup:

bigtruckguy3500
07-25-2012, 12:39 PM
Pretty much what Costales said. But I'll add a few things.

On an ethics question you need to answer confidently, no matter what you say. If you say something and they say "but what about ____," you should be prepared to defend your original point, show you have conviction and that you're not just trying to say what you think they want to hear.

Be prepared to address anything on your application, including any blemishes that may be there, or anything of interest. Last thing you want to do is look confused when an interviewer asks you something and you're trying to remember what he's talking about, or you're wondering "how did he know that"?

Be prepared to answer the question "Tell me about yourself?" It's very open ended, but you don't want to spend 20 minutes talking about your life since you were born. Your interviewer might not interrupt you if you just keep babbling on, and when you're done they might just look at you waiting for you to say more.

I've heard of someone's interviewer talking to them the whole time about college football, another about mostly barbecue, and another was pretty much all ethics questions. Interviews can vary widely.

Be prepared for having two interviewers in the room. Sometimes during the early interview dates, new faculty sit in on an interview or two to see how things are done. Even if one person is asking all the questions, make sure you make eye contact with both as you're answering.

P4Pflugerville
07-25-2012, 01:42 PM
Those websites are great. And so much good advice in this thread.

Thank you all so much! :)

Whiteshoes
07-25-2012, 02:47 PM
My $.02:



4. Review your application materials. Get ready to tell your story. Your interviewers have some basic info about you and not much else. They don't know your GPA or MCAT score (and they probably don't care). They want to know that you like this school, you work hard and play well with others, and you have the capacity to persevere and succeed in med school and beyond as a physician.


Good luck to everyone!

How else are we suppose to explain low gpa or low mcat scores if they don't know it and don't care?

bigtruckguy3500
07-25-2012, 03:13 PM
How else are we suppose to explain low gpa or low mcat scores if they don't know it and don't care?
If you've made it to an interview then they're willing to give you the benefit of the doubt on your GPA/MCAT.

mbowmar
07-25-2012, 05:15 PM
Is anyone going to the TCOM recruitment weekend this Friday-Saturday? Did anyone go in the previous years and see any benefit/advantage of attending?

SushiBoat
07-25-2012, 07:07 PM
The email from Caroline should have details, but in general interview day consists of a presentation, lunch, campus tour with current students, and two interviews (typically one interviewer is chosen from research faculty and one clinical; your interviewer may be a PhD, DO, or MD). The interviews are informal in tone and structure.

Thanks a lot Costales! Didn't get the email when I posted so I was just wondering whether anyone had any info.

costales
07-25-2012, 09:28 PM
You don't have to worry about your GPA or MCAT in a closed-file interview. The fact that you're getting an invite means that the admissions people are comfortable with your academic performance, your stats are not a concern, and they want to talk about other things. Basically they want to check you out as a person and size you up as a prospective student. They also want to look for red flags like weirdness or communication issues.

Another thing I might add: Don't let your phone go off during the interview. Turn it off or put it on silent - not vibrate.

At any rate, come prepared, relax and be yourself. :)

jp6285
07-26-2012, 05:38 AM
Is anyone going to the TCOM recruitment weekend this Friday-Saturday? Did anyone go in the previous years and see any benefit/advantage of attending?
I'll be there Saturday. I doubt it will give me any type of leg up outside of having a better understanding of TCOM and what they like to tout before getting into the interview on Tuesday.

manubrium
07-26-2012, 05:58 AM
i think open-file is also like that in the sense that you've made the cut numbers wise. except that you're still at risk from an interviewer nit picking at your transcript and you could be subject to a gpa/mcat bias because the interviewer sees those numbers...
in closed file, the interviewer assumes everyone is the same academically.

Znld
07-28-2012, 10:12 AM
it's tuesdays and thursdays. the administrative offices are closed on weekends

Is it Tues and Thurs for the whole season?

manubrium
07-28-2012, 03:20 PM
Is it Tues and Thurs for the whole season?

that's correct

UrshumMurshum
07-28-2012, 06:29 PM
According to the statistics TCOM offers acceptances to about 2/3 of the people they interview so that's good reason to relax. :)

(For the interviewees) [Which will hopefully be me soon!]

jp6285
07-29-2012, 05:31 AM
According to the statistics TCOM offers acceptances to about 2/3 of the people they interview so that's good reason to relax. :)

(For the interviewees) [Which will hopefully be me soon!]

From the stats they shared yesterday its closer to 50% of interviewees get offersm (880ish/440ish)

UrshumMurshum
07-29-2012, 05:43 AM
From the stats they shared yesterday its closer to 50% of interviewees get offersm (880ish/440ish)

It will vary from year to year but the past two years according to their website:
http://www.hsc.unt.edu/education/tcom/admissions/enteringclassstats.cfm

they accepted 62% and 65% of people going to interviews.

greentrails
07-29-2012, 06:35 AM
From the stats they shared yesterday its closer to 50% of interviewees get offersm (880ish/440ish)

Was the open house like a community type event for area students? And did they let people view the anatomy lab? Thanks.

Disaronno
07-29-2012, 01:31 PM
I got a 22 on my MCAT, but I have a science GPA of 3.93 and an overall gpa of 3.895, and worked as a medical assist for a retinal/glaucoma surgeon and a PT tech for Baylor Medical Center. Do I even stand a chance at getting in with such a low MCAT score?

UrshumMurshum
07-29-2012, 02:19 PM
I got a 22 on my MCAT, but I have a science GPA of 3.93 and an overall gpa of 3.895, and worked as a medical assist for a retinal/glaucoma surgeon and a PT tech for Baylor Medical Center. Do I even stand a chance at getting in with such a low MCAT score?

Ya they did accept someone with a 19 last year. I imagine the odds are against you, I don't think the risk is too great if you don't get in then you'll just reapply next year.

Really you should plan on retaking.

jp6285
07-30-2012, 05:10 AM
Was the open house like a community type event for area students? And did they let people view the anatomy lab? Thanks.
Its was for anybody. I know that it was publicly available to register on their website and they also sent out email invites to come. The anatomy lab was being retrofitted (not sure with what, thats where they left it) over the weekend, so it was unavailable. We did go through the demo clinic which was really impressive. I found the entire experience and facilities to be head and shoulders ahead above my visits to UTH and UTMB

reff11
07-30-2012, 07:16 AM
Hello, I attended a tour when I was a college freshman and we got a quick glimpse of the lab. It was not being used by students, but they had other things going on at a distance. I think if there are students working, they won't let visitors come in or approach. We were told TCOM had one of the best anatomy labs in the U.S. They had a special software that they developed using examples they collected over their many years dissecting. I think the lab is supposed to be on the interview schedule. TCOM is on my list and I hope to see that lab again. I agree TCOM is a great school. I love the great location, not downtown but close to it, and all those incredible museums right across the street! -R

Guero
07-31-2012, 06:59 AM
Can someone please post the secondary essay prompts? I've looked, searched, and can't find them on the thread. Did I miss them? I've been going through so many to prewrite...

bigtruckguy3500
07-31-2012, 07:40 AM
Can someone please post the secondary essay prompts? I've looked, searched, and can't find them on the thread. Did I miss them? I've been going through so many to prewrite...

1) In your own words, explain the concept of osteopathic medicine as you understand it. (1000 Characters or less)

2) What experiences and/or relationships have motivated you toward a career in osteopathic medicine? (1000 Characters or less)

Guero
07-31-2012, 08:07 AM
Much obliged! :-)

redoitall
07-31-2012, 10:58 AM
Sweet irony. Here waiting for an invite from TCOM. Just received a generic email from the president of aacom saying I should consider osteopathic med. no kidding...

Sent with SDN mobile. Excuse brevity and misspellings.

greentrails
07-31-2012, 12:01 PM
How did it go today for the first group of interviewees at TCOM? Would anyone care to comment about their experience, and the types of questions that were asked?

Every year is probably different, and I imagine the membership of the admissions committee changes from year to year.

Thanks for sharing, as always.

AtlasCarraway
07-31-2012, 12:19 PM
Interviews were great! Awesome group.

I'm about to hit the road but I'll update in a few.

eldeal
07-31-2012, 01:27 PM
The entire experience was great. The staff was awesome and helpful. My faculty interviewers (one DO, one MD, both PCP's) were very relaxed with their interviews; they seemed to want to just talk to me rather than test me. The group was diverse and fun... a few OOS and a few non-traditionals. Good luck to those that are interviewing soon.

snn17
07-31-2012, 02:40 PM
The entire experience was great. The staff was awesome and helpful. My faculty interviewers (one DO, one MD, both PCP's) were very relaxed with their interviews; they seemed to want to just talk to me rather than test me. The group was diverse and fun... a few OOS and a few non-traditionals. Good luck to those that are interviewing soon.

That sounds great! That make me a lot more relaxed about interviewing next week.

AtlasCarraway
07-31-2012, 06:43 PM
^^ agreed. I had one DO (clinician) and an MD/PhD (researcher) interview me, but both were very low-stress and conversational. The tour guides and the students we saw walking around all seemed very happy to be there.

Don't stress out, they really just want to get to know you.

bigtruckguy3500
07-31-2012, 07:34 PM
The tour guides and the students we saw walking around all seemed very happy to be there.

I didn't interview there, but I've met a lot of their students, and they all love it. The only complaint I've ever heard is that they are too strict on attendance for OMM class.

Fox800
07-31-2012, 07:45 PM
Holy crap I didn't realize they were interviewing you guys so early until you showed up in the building our classes are in today. Yikes! Good luck.

Fox800
07-31-2012, 07:47 PM
I didn't interview there, but I've met a lot of their students, and they all love it. The only complaint I've ever heard is that they are too strict on attendance for OMM class.

I'm not sure how you're supposed to learn/become proficient with OMM techniques if you aren't present in lab to do them with your assigned partner. Uhh...Seems like a no brainer.

Go to labs. Go to class. Learn. There's a reason TCOM is one of the best DO schools in the country and averages higher on the USMLE than some Texas MD schools.

Fox800
07-31-2012, 07:49 PM
I'm happy to answer questions about a first year's experiences. I'm taking a break from studying for our first exam in cellular science.

bigtruckguy3500
07-31-2012, 08:45 PM
I'm not sure how you're supposed to learn/become proficient with OMM techniques if you aren't present in lab to do them with your assigned partner. Uhh...Seems like a no brainer.

Go to labs. Go to class. Learn. There's a reason TCOM is one of the best DO schools in the country and averages higher on the USMLE than some Texas MD schools.
Well, most of those students also have no plan on using OMM in their practices, so they see it as a waste of time.

manubrium
07-31-2012, 09:48 PM
I'm happy to answer questions about a first year's experiences. I'm taking a break from studying for our first exam in cellular science.

ugh, cell sci. the little beast unleashed on unwitting 1st years to let them know they're in med school. keep at it and you'll pass.
actually we're in the same boat with 2nd yr renal. but we get to sleep in lol.

manubrium
07-31-2012, 09:57 PM
Well, most of those students also have no plan on using OMM in their practices, so they see it as a waste of time.

i don't foresee myself billing anyone for omm either. and omm is a skill set that can get rusty without use.
in general there is quite a bit of material in med school you won't see again unless you're going into that specialty.

manubrium
07-31-2012, 10:44 PM
and all those incredible museums right across the street! -R

fact: tcom used to require 1st yrs to cross the street and examine portraits in those museums and report on their possible medical problems!!

jp6285
08-01-2012, 05:31 AM
Sweet irony. Here waiting for an invite from TCOM. Just received a generic email from the president of aacom saying I should consider osteopathic med. no kidding....

Same thing happened a while back for me with LECOM. Just got a random email out of the blue. Looked them up, saw that they were somewhere in the range of 2X the cost of Texas schools and that you had to wear a suit to class, and moved on with life.

Regarding the interviews, they were outstanding. The interviewers (2 DOs and 1MD, I had an extra because I applied to their rural program) were really laid back and conversational. I have been to campus and interacted with TCOM faculty/staff twice now and I can honestly say that they are head and shoulders better than those that I have interact with in the other schools I have visited (UTMB and UTH). Additionally, the facilities are in a totally other league than what I have seen elsewhere. The atmosphere there is amazing, and I can honestly say that TCOM has jumped to the top of my list.

P4Pflugerville
08-01-2012, 05:34 AM
Thanks for letting us know what happened yesterday! :)

Applic
08-01-2012, 08:23 AM
A TCOM grad was on TV recently: http://www.thedoctorstv.com/videolib/init/6415

There is a well-known TCOM graduate whose signature is on every medical license in Texas:

Irvin E. Zeitler, Jr., D.O.
President of the Texas Medical Board
http://www.tmb.state.tx.us/boards/mbbios.php
http://www.txdirectory.com/online/person/?id=17686&office=22449
:) :thumbup:

JaBoomDay
08-01-2012, 11:00 AM
There is a well-known TCOM graduate whose signature is on every medical license in Texas:

Irvin E. Zeitler, Jr., D.O.
President of the Texas Medical Board
http://www.tmb.state.tx.us/boards/mbbios.php
http://www.txdirectory.com/online/person/?id=17686&office=22449
:) :thumbup:
:thumbup: That is so awesome!!!

Whiteshoes
08-01-2012, 02:47 PM
Same thing happened a while back for me with LECOM. Just got a random email out of the blue. Looked them up, saw that they were somewhere in the range of 2X the cost of Texas schools and that you had to wear a suit to class, and moved on with life.

Regarding the interviews, they were outstanding. The interviewers (2 DOs and 1MD, I had an extra because I applied to their rural program) were really laid back and conversational. I have been to campus and interacted with TCOM faculty/staff twice now and I can honestly say that they are head and shoulders better than those that I have interact with in the other schools I have visited (UTMB and UTH). Additionally, the facilities are in a totally other league than what I have seen elsewhere. The atmosphere there is amazing, and I can honestly say that TCOM has jumped to the top of my list.

How was the ROME interview? Did you interview with Dr.Bowling? I was thinking about it but im not sure. thanks

Fox800
08-01-2012, 03:51 PM
Well, most of those students also have no plan on using OMM in their practices, so they see it as a waste of time.

Regardless, OMM is a part every osteopathic medical school's curriculum...no whining about having to do it if you choose to attend one. It's a part of the school's title and a part of your professional title when you graduate.

jp6285
08-02-2012, 05:34 AM
How was the ROME interview? Did you interview with Dr.Bowling? I was thinking about it but im not sure. thanks
I did and from what I understand everybody who checks the ROME box does. If the rest of the day was laid back, I dont know that I have the vocabulary to describe Dr Bowling. Really cool guy, Its clear that the program is his baby and he is really proud of what they are doing. I'd say its at least worth checking the box and going to interview with him, he does a really good job laying everything out for you. I'm not 100% sure (assuming I get in) that I'll go into ROME because of all the time away from wife/baby, but that would be the only reason I wouldnt do it. Other than the away time, it sounds like an awesome program.

JaBoomDay
08-02-2012, 02:49 PM
I GOT AN INTERVIEW INVITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!! My first interview invite!!!!! I'm so freaking excited!!!! ANNNDDD I'm out of state!!!!!!!!!

:soexcited:

COTA2Phys
08-02-2012, 03:25 PM
I GOT AN INTERVIEW INVITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!! My first interview invite!!!!! I'm so freaking excited!!!! ANNNDDD I'm out of state!!!!!!!!!

:soexcited:

Congrats that's awesome!

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using SDN Mobile

redoitall
08-02-2012, 03:36 PM
I GOT AN INTERVIEW INVITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!! My first interview invite!!!!! I'm so freaking excited!!!! ANNNDDD I'm out of state!!!!!!!!!
:soexcited:
I just love reading this type of posts. Congratulations. Enjoy the ride...

jp6285
08-03-2012, 04:46 AM
Congrats, JaBoom Day!

FI787
08-03-2012, 06:29 PM
To save money I'm thinking leaving Austin at 5 am same day for my TCOM interview. Any advice for or against? 5 am should be enough time, right?

COTA2Phys
08-03-2012, 06:38 PM
To save money I'm thinking leaving Austin at 5 am same day for my TCOM interview. Any advice for or against? 5 am should be enough time, right?

IMO don't do this. At least try to find a cheap hotel for one night. Have you tried staying with a med student?

FI787
08-03-2012, 07:01 PM
No, I have not. From friends interviewing at other schools, it's a hit or miss thing depending on med students signed up to host. But I'll call TCOM Monday to check availability. Thanks!!! I want my interview to succeed...

COTA2Phys
08-03-2012, 07:27 PM
I didn't stay with one either. It'll work out for you. Best of luck!

bigtruckguy3500
08-03-2012, 08:25 PM
IMO don't do this. At least try to find a cheap hotel for one night. Have you tried staying with a med student?

I second this. Too many variables to take into account by driving in the morning of, and you don't want to be sleepy or stressed out before interview day. Anything over 1 1/2 hour drive, and I'd recommend hotel.

costales
08-03-2012, 09:03 PM
To save money I'm thinking leaving Austin at 5 am same day for my TCOM interview. Any advice for or against? 5 am should be enough time, right?

I know a guy from east Texas who tried that. BIG mistake. There was a major wreck, and he got stuck in traffic. He did make it in time, but he said his dream of being a doctor almost ended that day. (He will graduate next year).

JaBoomDay
08-04-2012, 06:29 AM
I got a hotel for the night before but I'm flying in from Maryland.

I'm excited! I am ready to be a Texan. I already drive a Chevy truck! :p Full size Silverado, V8 beast! Rawwwwrrrrr!

costales
08-04-2012, 07:49 AM
Congrats, best of luck, and welcome to Ford country! :D

JaBoomDay
08-04-2012, 08:06 AM
Congrats, best of luck, and welcome to Ford country! :D

Haha oh noooo! Not good for my poor old Chevy! :p

costales
08-04-2012, 08:13 AM
Haha oh noooo! Not good for my poor old Chevy! :p

Well, there are plenty of Chevys in Texas. And Toyotas. Heck, all Toyota pickups are now made in Texas.

JaBoomDay
08-04-2012, 08:46 AM
Haha well I guess it could be worse. Thank goodness I'm not a Redskins fan!

jp6285
08-05-2012, 05:23 AM
Unless youre local, its a bad idea to drive in. My interview check in time was 7a, so driving would have been dumb

costales
08-05-2012, 05:50 AM
Wow, that's pretty early. I think it was 8:30 when I interviewed.

There is a variety of hotels within 15 minutes of campus. They're all listed in the AAA book and on various websites.

P4Pflugerville
08-05-2012, 09:12 AM
@FI787: It's only 2-1/2 hours from my house when there is no traffic, but no, I wouldn't risk it.

greentrails
08-05-2012, 04:40 PM
I meant to post this earlier. Somebody in our club watched their white coat ceremony last month and had this count:

Schools with 3 or more students in TCOM Class of 2016:
UT Austin 35
Baylor 26
Texas A&M 23
Brigham Young 10
U of Houston 9
UT Dallas 8
UT Arlington 8
UT San Antonio 7
Trinity U 7
TCU 7
Texas Tech 6
UNT 6
Abilene Christian U 5
UT Pan American 5
Rice 3
U of St Thomas 3
St Edward's U 3
from 68 schools across the U.S.

Of course, this may differ from their official roster. But it does look like it's the same top three every year.