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View Full Version : Official 2012-2013 Heme/Onc fellowship application cycle happygolucky1 05-25-2012, 03:47 PM lets get this party started? Hassler 05-28-2012, 03:01 AM Any past applicants care to share which days of the week each program tend to interview their applicants? I know in the past SDN helped me a great deal when people posted which days of the week specific IM programs interview, as I was able to plan ahead and lump interviews in each city together. It will be significantly more difficult for heme/onc (given there will be less interview dates), but knowing ahead will help me plan nonetheless. For example, if I know program A in city 1 only interviews on Fridays, program B in city 1 interviews on Thursdays and Fridays and I receive an interview offer from program B first, I will probably pick a Thursday date instead of a Friday one. Specifically looking for big city programs in LA, Chicago, New York, Philly etc. happygolucky1 05-28-2012, 04:51 AM Could you all share pros/cons of programs that were memorable to you? That would be helpful as we are just beginning our application cycle Thanks! gutonc 05-28-2012, 09:44 PM Note: Thread title changed and thread stickied. blabbyblab 06-01-2012, 08:36 PM I will definitely be following this thread, good luck everyone Nadir 06-18-2012, 07:59 AM I think all bets are off with interview schedules given the new calendar this year--it will be interesting to see what the season looks like! Tedebear 06-18-2012, 07:27 PM Confusing. Do programs download applications on July 1st? Also do all lor writers have to upload with PDF directly to eras? Winner 12 06-24-2012, 03:12 PM Can anyone please review my credential and give me an honest opinion: USMLE steps 1&2 >90 Step 3 80 Chief resident Resident of the year for PG2 and PG3 2 posters at APC which won prizes No research so far WOrking as a hospitalist now Got teacher of the year award Good LORs Any input would be greatly appreciated gutonc 06-24-2012, 09:02 PM Can anyone please review my credential and give me an honest opinion: USMLE steps 1&2 >90 Step 3 80 Chief resident Resident of the year for PG2 and PG3 2 posters at APC which won prizes No research so far WOrking as a hospitalist now Got teacher of the year award Good LORs Any input would be greatly appreciated AMG/FMG (I'm assuming the latter)? Real Step scores? (Nobody cares about the 2 digit... >90 is anywhere from 215-270 these days.) Quality of residency program and LORs? Those things are more important than pretty much anything you posted. Nadir 06-25-2012, 05:16 PM I second what gutonc said--the awards and chief residency suggested you did well, but where you did your residency means a lot. Being at the top of the pile is probably a bigger deal at a large academic program than a small community program. I think the usmle scores are probably less relevant unless they are extremely bad. Assuming the rest you said is true, I suspect you'll have strong letters, but again, who they are and what specifically they say is important. Good luck relentless cure 06-26-2012, 05:36 PM Can anyone please review my credential and give me an honest opinion: USMLE steps 1&2 >90 Step 3 80 Chief resident Resident of the year for PG2 and PG3 2 posters at APC which won prizes No research so far WOrking as a hospitalist now Got teacher of the year award Good LORs Any input would be greatly appreciated My application is similar to yours (CMR, residency and teaching awards etc), but no award winning posters. Mine is more of a clinician educator type resume than a researcher- makes me very nervous when applying to research heavy University programs, but really want to be a heme-onc guy and willing to give it a shot. I have many friends who are practicing heme-onc and they all tell me the same thing: the foremost thing about a successful application is the quality of the LOR's. Some feel that being a hospitalist is a good thing, some don't- lot of heterogeneity- it boils down to why we didn't apply for fellowship at the end of residency (or how we spin the rationale). With your profile and strong letters I think your'e set based on what I've heard from friends- I hope that's enough for your sake and mine! Good luck. revolution1980 07-10-2012, 04:53 PM So anyone have any advice on how many programs to apply to? For me, geography is the #1 priority. I want to stay in NYC/NJ (possibly PA). I'm an american grad with a phd. lots of research experience. good exam scores. I also want to ask about programs that are more geared towards solids... gutonc 07-10-2012, 05:19 PM So anyone have any advice on how many programs to apply to? For me, geography is the #1 priority. I want to stay in NYC/NJ (possibly PA). I'm an american grad with a phd. lots of research experience. good exam scores. I also want to ask about programs that are more geared towards solids... The numbers game is a tough one. But you can apply to 20 programs for <$200 so why not? You can apply to all of the academic programs in NYC, NJ and Philly (and Pitt...just for completeness) and add on most of the decent community programs and still be under 20. With your stats you probably won't need that many (I had a very similar CV, applied to 10, got 9 interviews (F*** You again Stanford) and went on 8 interviews. Matched my #1. The only two places I can think of in your geographic region that have a major stiffy for heme and heme mal are NYU and Cornell. Not saying you shouldn't apply there, just an FYI. The rest of the places are pretty well balanced or solid focused. revolution1980 07-10-2012, 06:27 PM The numbers game is a tough one. But you can apply to 20 programs for <$200 so why not? You can apply to all of the academic programs in NYC, NJ and Philly (and Pitt...just for completeness) and add on most of the decent community programs and still be under 20. With your stats you probably won't need that many (I had a very similar CV, applied to 10, got 9 interviews (F*** You again Stanford) and went on 8 interviews. Matched my #1. The only two places I can think of in your geographic region that have a major stiffy for heme and heme mal are NYU and Cornell. Not saying you shouldn't apply there, just an FYI. The rest of the places are pretty well balanced or solid focused. Sounds along the lines of what I was thinking. Thanks. and F Stanford. Doctor&Geek 07-17-2012, 06:40 PM Sorry guys, we simply have too many short-tracking and internal candidates. Sincerely, A Stanford Resident :p cancerology 07-19-2012, 11:39 AM Any Interviews or rejection so far? I believe programs this year would start working on the applications pretty soon because of shortened time period for the whole process. I will apply over the weekend. waiting for my LORs to get uploaded. gutonc 07-19-2012, 11:48 AM Any Interviews or rejection so far? I believe programs this year would start working on the applications pretty soon because of shortened time period for the whole process. I will apply over the weekend. waiting for my LORs to get uploaded. FWIW, my (old) program isn't having their first meeting to review apps until late next week. miki511cn 07-19-2012, 02:11 PM Got one email said they are going to review apps on August 17th.... Dogtooth 07-20-2012, 08:11 AM Anybody have any inside information about UCSF? Tedebear 07-20-2012, 08:50 AM Can you guys settle a debate? Every program that I looked for required 3 letters of recommendation. One of my coapplicants who is applying broadly told me that there are program that require 4 letters. When I asked her which one she said she doesn't remember because she applied to 30+ programs. Are there programs that specifically require 4 letters of recommendation? genecancer 07-22-2012, 03:14 PM Are there programs that specified 4 letters? Yes. I know of MD Anderson and Univ. of Louisville in KY. There may be others but I am sure of these two. There are many other programs though(over a hundred) that asked for 3 letters. Either way, both you and your friend should be fine. feelfox 07-23-2012, 08:09 AM I am applying to hem onc this year. I applied to 30 programs. I have assigned 4 LoRs to all programs that I applied to. So far 3 LoRs are available and downloaded by most programs. The 4th LoR, the one I really want to be included, is not uploaded yet. The professor said he will do it this week (he was too busy last week). Should I update the programs that the 4th letter is expected to be available either this week or early next week, and ask programs to hold my application until the letter is available? The reference of the 4th letter is well known in his field, and I have rotated with him for 2 months so I feel he knows me better. Thanks a lot. A little bit stressed recently. akoult 07-23-2012, 10:48 AM IV from UT SW. Tedebear 07-23-2012, 12:49 PM IV from UT SW. Congrats! :thumbup: Also if anyone else receives an interview. Please post on here to help others out. Thank you. miki511cn 07-24-2012, 08:45 AM IV from UT SW. Big congratulations! mind telling your creds? Thanks! Tedebear 07-25-2012, 07:05 AM Is it just me or is it slow around here? I wonder if wave of interview offers will come in August. I remember in the previous December cycle interviews came in January ie one month after Dec 1st application window opened. Still ZERO interviews and no mention of programs saying they have received application. At least no rejections so far :) What do you guys think? Will august bring a wave of interviews and/or rejections? Hassler 07-25-2012, 07:29 AM Is it just me or is it slow around here? I wonder if wave of interview offers will come in August. I remember in the previous December cycle interviews came in January ie one month after Dec 1st application window opened. Still ZERO interviews and no mention of programs saying they have received application. At least no rejections so far :) What do you guys think? Will august bring a wave of interviews and/or rejections? Probably August. Programs do need time to review our applications. genecancer 07-25-2012, 10:38 AM I am applying to hem onc this year. I applied to 30 programs. I have assigned 4 LoRs to all programs that I applied to. So far 3 LoRs are available and downloaded by most programs. The 4th LoR, the one I really want to be included, is not uploaded yet. The professor said he will do it this week (he was too busy last week). Should I update the programs that the 4th letter is expected to be available either this week or early next week, and ask programs to hold my application until the letter is available? The reference of the 4th letter is well known in his field, and I have rotated with him for 2 months so I feel he knows me better. Thanks a lot. A little bit stressed recently. I suspect your 4th letter is probably uploaded by now in which case this reply is no longer necessary. But assuming it is still pending, maybe you should do nothing for now and see what happens by end of the week. Telling programs anything now may complicate/confuse matters. We still have till 31st as the deadline for some programs. Rather than talking to programs, spend the time following up on the Prof that will write the 4th letter and make sure it is uploaded before Friday. (If possible, make sure the letter is sent by the LorPortal so that it reflects on ERAS within minutes.) Goodluck. It will all work out well for us. miki511cn 07-25-2012, 01:15 PM post-call, check email, got my 1st invitation:) genecancer 07-25-2012, 01:26 PM Congrats!!!! eastlake 07-25-2012, 04:53 PM congratulations! Let's keep the thread going on.... whitecoatjimmy 07-25-2012, 04:57 PM Very nice. May I ask which program the interview offer was from? We should start a running list of programs that have offered interviews now that interview season is getting revved up. HemoncBrazil 07-25-2012, 06:09 PM Just to introduce myself here. I wanna wish you the best luck for this season. Keep heads up. feelfox 07-25-2012, 06:38 PM Thx. My 4th letter has not been uploaded yet. I will email him tomorrow to remind him. My other question is if in case he is too busy to do the letter, would programs think my applications incomplete although I have 3 other letters available? feelfox 07-25-2012, 06:41 PM I suspect your 4th letter is probably uploaded by now in which case this reply is no longer necessary. But assuming it is still pending, maybe you should do nothing for now and see what happens by end of the week. Telling programs anything now may complicate/confuse matters. We still have till 31st as the deadline for some programs. Rather than talking to programs, spend the time following up on the Prof that will write the 4th letter and make sure it is uploaded before Friday. (If possible, make sure the letter is sent by the LorPortal so that it reflects on ERAS within minutes.) Goodluck. It will all work out well for us. Thx. The 4th letter has not been uploaded yet. If he is too busy to do the letter, would those programs think my applications not complete even I have 3 other letters available? genecancer 07-25-2012, 06:56 PM Thx. My 4th letter has not been uploaded yet. I will email him tomorrow to remind him. My other question is if in case he is too busy to do the letter, would programs think my applications incomplete although I have 3 other letters available? I will start getting worried if he has not started drafting the letter by tomorrow. What I know some people did was to ask their prof to write the letter and then have his/her office assistant do the rest of the clerical job- scan, make a pdf file and the rest of them. That said, it is really difficult to say if programs will consider the application incomplete just because they are lacking a 4th letter which was not required in the first instance.Unsure what I would have done in your shoes. But work seriously on getting that letter drafted tomorrow. The rest of the process will take only few minutes if you can get that done. feelfox 07-25-2012, 07:33 PM I will start getting worried if he has not started drafting the letter by tomorrow. What I know some people did was to ask their prof to write the letter and then have his/her office assistant do the rest of the clerical job- scan, make a pdf file and the rest of them. That said, it is really difficult to say if programs will consider the application incomplete just because they are lacking a 4th letter which was not required in the first instance.Unsure what I would have done in your shoes. But work seriously on getting that letter drafted tomorrow. The rest of the process will take only few minutes if you can get that done. Thx. Last week he said he would do it this week. I know he is awfully busy with 3 clinics per week, on- service this and next week, and FDA audit that will last for 3 weeks. He is aware that I have assigned his letter and the applications may be considered incomplete without his letter. he is a super- kind person, but just too busy. When I was rotating with him, I saw his fellows chasing him around for paper revise to meet the deadline. He was even in the middle of conference call when he was doing his clinic. I think the worst scenario is to notify programs that his is caught in other things and could not make the letter, and ask programs just to review my application w 3 letters. Yeah. He has assistant who will do letter uploading for him. Thank you. I feel better after just talking to you:) happygolucky1 07-25-2012, 07:58 PM let's keep the list going: UTSW doub 07-25-2012, 10:51 PM Vcu miki511cn 07-26-2012, 07:17 AM pen state medical center adi1978 07-26-2012, 08:10 AM Ecu genecancer 07-26-2012, 08:44 AM Congratzzz guys!!! akoult 07-26-2012, 10:25 AM VCU. Heard that columbia has sent out IVs as well. Rumi2010 07-26-2012, 12:31 PM I am IMG, graduated 2000 Has PhD from US decent scores in all steps chief resident has research papers and posters Residency in a University based community program 4 good lors but not by very femous attending No IV yet. Any input about my chance for heam onc fellowship? ssk123 07-26-2012, 12:58 PM i got an interview from columbia, but that was my alma mater so i think that's why (doubt they even read my app). i talked to them, and they're sending out on rolling basis... miki511cn 07-26-2012, 01:05 PM UTSW ECU VCU Columbia Penn state BIDMC Tedebear 07-26-2012, 01:41 PM Zero IVs invites here too. Just out of curiousity. If anyone knows or has an idea of the process, how do programs select 20 or so people out of 400+ applicants? Do programs really look at all applicants that apply to the program? Seems like it would be very time consuming. If they dont look at all 400+ applicants, is it luck of the draw if they even look at your application? There seem to be competing forces here. Programs are very busy so how could they look at all applicants vs being fair to everyone that applies to the program. Also do middle tier and top programs both invite the academic all stars for interviews? From a logistical perspective wouldnt it be more efficient if top programs invited top applicants and mid tier programs interviewd mid tier applicants. what do you guys think? Should mid tier programs not interview academic all stars for an interview since they will likely go to a top program? akoult 07-26-2012, 01:42 PM Ut sw vcu bidmc miki511cn 07-26-2012, 02:17 PM big congatulations! happyslav 07-26-2012, 04:21 PM Hi, does anyone know why Ohio State has 8 first year fellows, 5 second year fellows, and only 3 third year fellows?? Did several fellows quit? Did they expand? And why so quickly? Any info is greatly appreciated. genecancer 07-26-2012, 04:34 PM I am IMG, graduated 2000 Has PhD from US decent scores in all steps chief resident has research papers and posters Residency in a University based community program 4 good lors but not by very femous attending No IV yet. Any input about my chance for heam onc fellowship? I think every one has a chance in this game. If one program does not like you, another one will be falling head over heels for you. That is why there are over a hundred Hem/Onc programs in the country- so both the programs and the candidates can be free to pick and choose. I would say dont worry yet. It is still too early to worry. My 2 cents! genecancer 07-26-2012, 05:16 PM Zero IVs invites here too. Just out of curiousity. If anyone knows or has an idea of the process, how do programs select 20 or so people out of 400+ applicants? Do programs really look at all applicants that apply to the program? Seems like it would be very time consuming. If they dont look at all 400+ applicants, is it luck of the draw if they even look at your application? There seem to be competing forces here. Programs are very busy so how could they look at all applicants vs being fair to everyone that applies to the program. Also do middle tier and top programs both invite the academic all stars for interviews? From a logistical perspective wouldnt it be more efficient if top programs invited top applicants and mid tier programs interviewd mid tier applicants. what do you guys think? Should mid tier programs not interview academic all stars for an interview since they will likely go to a top program? In a perfect and very logical world, stars will go to top programs, mid tier programs will get the mid tier candidates and all applicants will match each cycle. But things are far from perfect so you just never know who matches where . The programs promise that they look at all 400 applications. I will take them at their word since there is no way for me to prove they dont. It is all gonna be fine:) gutonc 07-26-2012, 09:16 PM Zero IVs invites here too. Just out of curiousity. If anyone knows or has an idea of the process, how do programs select 20 or so people out of 400+ applicants? Do programs really look at all applicants that apply to the program? Seems like it would be very time consuming. If they dont look at all 400+ applicants, is it luck of the draw if they even look at your application? There seem to be competing forces here. Programs are very busy so how could they look at all applicants vs being fair to everyone that applies to the program. It kind of blows my mind that after just a couple short years, people forget everything they knew about the Match. It works exactly the same way for fellowship that it does for residency. While the number of apps (and interviews and spots) may be fewer, so are the number of people available to review the apps. A medium-sized IM program may have 3-5 people primarily reviewing apps but a medium-sized fellowship program probably has only one, maybe 2 people to do the job. So, just like in the residency match, fellowships rely on filters to cut the number down to a decent size. After that, they'll often do a quick once-over of the remaining apps to thin the herd again, followed by a more extensive review of the apps. So now, where it started out at 400 apps for 4 spots, the filters have narrowed it down to 200 and the brief eval brought it down to 100 which is a reasonable number to closely review for the 30-40 interview spots you have for those 4 spots. Also do middle tier and top programs both invite the academic all stars for interviews? From a logistical perspective wouldnt it be more efficient if top programs invited top applicants and mid tier programs interviewd mid tier applicants. what do you guys think? Should mid tier programs not interview academic all stars for an interview since they will likely go to a top program? So, first of all, programs can do whatever they want within the bounds of employment law and the Match agreement. There's no moral or legal imperative for programs to accept (or reject) any particular "tier" of candidate. You can't predict the choices any particular applicant will make and the goal of a program is to get the best fellows to come there. That said, I was at a mid-tier program (and interviewed at both higher and lower tier programs than the one I matched at) and we would routinely interview a handful (10-20% of interview spots) superstar candidates, usually those with connections to the area or the institution. The rest of the spots were split between solid mid-tier folks (the majority, let's say 50-80%) and a few stragglers on the south end of the stats game, again, usually with some sort of connection to the area or program. Tedebear 07-27-2012, 05:13 AM Thank you gut onc for an informative response. miki511cn 07-27-2012, 06:12 AM Reject from viginia commonwealth Uni cancerology 07-27-2012, 06:43 AM rejection from VCU as well. I need H1 visa - international medical graduate. While applying, didn't realise that this program sponsors J1 only. I guess requiring visa makes it extra difficult for international medical grads. but all you need is luck in this process. jazzblue 07-27-2012, 07:27 AM :thumbdown VCU rejection Reject from viginia commonwealth Uni happyslav 07-27-2012, 07:30 AM Also, rejected from VCU :-( I'm a US citizen though, so it wasn't just that... genecancer 07-27-2012, 08:28 AM VCU reject: That makes it 5 of us.....and still counting:laugh: Tedebear 07-27-2012, 12:22 PM Make that 6. Rejection here too. Kinda prefer a rejection rather than waiting and waiting. Thank you VCU for letting us know Yes or No to rejections right away. Makes it much easier for the applicants because now we can move on. wish every program would do this. 00001 07-27-2012, 12:58 PM Zero here as well. No rejections. I guess this is the end of week #2. gutonc 07-27-2012, 01:08 PM Make that 6. Rejection here too. Kinda prefer a rejection rather than waiting and waiting. Thank you VCU for letting us know Yes or No to rejections right away. Makes it much easier for the applicants because now we can move on. wish every program would do this. FWIW, my former program just pushed it's first review date back to the 2nd week of August. So don't het too worked up or freaked out. miki511cn 07-27-2012, 01:16 PM FWIW, my former program just pushed it's first review date back to the 2nd week of August. So don't het too worked up or freaked out. Interview in 2nd week of August, invitation must be sent out. As far as I know, several programs will send out invitations in the middle of August. Let's cross our fingers. Keep updated each other. Good luck to everybody. gutonc 07-27-2012, 05:02 PM Interview in 2nd week of August, invitation must be sent out. As far as I know, several programs will send out invitations in the middle of August. Let's cross our fingers. Keep updated each other. Good luck to everybody. I'm not sure what you're saying here. As I mentioned, my former program won't even look at apps until mid-August. Interviews are going to be late October, probably just 2 dates, maybe 3. miki511cn 07-27-2012, 06:26 PM I'm not sure what you're saying here. As I mentioned, my former program won't even look at apps until mid-August. Interviews are going to be late October, probably just 2 dates, maybe 3. woops!! sorry , read the "review" as "interview" Elfik 07-29-2012, 03:06 PM Hi everybody! Hope you all are doing great! Just found this amazing forum :o I applied to Hem Onc too. :) So far got 1 rejection from VCU :). Good luck to all of us! Elfik. DrVanNostran 07-29-2012, 05:52 PM How many places did you guys apply to? HemoOnc 07-30-2012, 07:16 AM Rejection from VCU so far.. zedx 07-30-2012, 07:31 AM Is it just me or has Boston University not downloaded anyone's app yet? Haven't heard anything from them so a little curious. HemoOnc 07-30-2012, 07:48 AM Boston University has not downloaded mine yet.. fischer 07-30-2012, 09:36 AM Boston University has not downloaded mine yet.. Boston hasn't downloaded my application yet either. But, I did get my first interview today with VCU!!! I am starting to stress out as two of my LORs are still not uploaded yet...I have contacted the individuals writing them, and they keep promising, but in the meantime I think I am developing an ulcer. genecancer 07-30-2012, 01:52 PM But, I did get my first interview today with VCU!!! I am starting to stress out as two of my LORs are still not uploaded yet...I have contacted the individuals writing them, and they keep promising, but in the meantime I think I am developing an ulcer. Dude, you got an interview with two LORs still pending ? You are VERY lucky! Congrats Chimhalter 07-30-2012, 02:24 PM I've been told that you need a Ph.D., extensive publications, etc., to land a HemeOnc spot. I'm an FMG coming out of a mid level IM university-based residency that is predominantly US med school grads. I have great LORs from reputable doctors who have worked with me, top 15% STEP scores, some research and a couple of publications. Does anybody have a sense of where I'd fall on the scale of competitiveness? Thanks! BTW, i haven't heard anything yet about interviews or rejections, etc. I've heard many programs will not be reviewing apps until mid-August. lentivector 07-30-2012, 04:01 PM with all the respect guys but I am kind of disappointed with the mentality of some members of this topic. Cancer medicine is not a place of advertising your CV, your research or other accomplishments and asking your fellows how competitive you can be or in what caliber program you can land. Cancer medicine wants compassionate physicians and above all humanists...please try to be more professional... a physician. miki511cn 07-30-2012, 04:07 PM a quiet day... got one email said application received, review extended to mid to late August genecancer 07-30-2012, 06:54 PM I've been told that you need a Ph.D., extensive publications, etc., to land a HemeOnc spot. I'm an FMG coming out of a mid level IM university-based residency that is predominantly US med school grads. I have great LORs from reputable doctors who have worked with me, top 15% STEP scores, some research and a couple of publications. Does anybody have a sense of where I'd fall on the scale of competitiveness? Thanks! BTW, i haven't heard anything yet about interviews or rejections, etc. I've heard many programs will not be reviewing apps until mid-August. I believe everyone has a chance in the interview/match process. Not sure about your scale of competitiveness - the moderators and program directors can help us with that one. Dont fret about rejections and interviews. They will come. fischer 07-30-2012, 07:22 PM Dude, you got an interview with two LORs still pending ? You are VERY lucky! Congrats Yes, I am counting my blessings....but it may be my ONLY one if I can't get the rest of my LOR's submitted... miki511cn 07-31-2012, 02:50 PM Rejection from ucsf miki511cn 07-31-2012, 03:25 PM UTSW ECU VCU Columbia Penn state BIDMC UCSF NCI/NIH Moffitt Uchicago U Mich UC Davis UNC University of SC cancerology 07-31-2012, 03:29 PM Do you need a california letter or PTAL while applying to fellowship in california just like as it was in residency application time. Got an email from one of the california program that they require a california letter to complete reviewing their application. PLs let me know. Top Gun 07-31-2012, 03:45 PM VCU reject: That makes it 5 of us.....and still counting:laugh: Me too. VCU must be extremely picky. miki511cn 07-31-2012, 03:47 PM Do you need a california letter or PTAL while applying to fellowship in california just like as it was in residency application time. Got an email from one of the california program that they require a california letter to complete reviewing their application. PLs let me know. I do have PTAL. But in the application there is no place to say that you have PTAL. But I know one of my senior, who just started Nephrology fellow this year, when she applied for nephrology fellow it is not required for the PTAL. Do you mind telling which program? thanks! gutonc 07-31-2012, 05:18 PM Do you need a california letter or PTAL while applying to fellowship in california just like as it was in residency application time. Got an email from one of the california program that they require a california letter to complete reviewing their application. PLs let me know. If the California program says, "you need the PTAL" then...you need the PTAL. whitecoatjimmy 08-01-2012, 06:27 AM Invite this morning. Finally the silence is broken. :thumbup: firstgenedoc 08-01-2012, 07:06 AM Rejection from UTSW pipes118 08-01-2012, 09:31 AM interview from nci/nih today. akoult 08-01-2012, 10:01 AM NCI/NIH today. SwineLake98 08-01-2012, 12:07 PM Hi, friends. I'm a US grad coming from a well-known New England residency program. I have fairly good research background including a first author paper in a reputable journal. I am interested in heme malignancies, so a strong BMT program is important to me. I've applied to 8 and gotten 1 invite so far (from my home institution). Since I can do 2 more before getting charged by ERAS, I feel like I should. I have family in and around NYC, so it makes sense to look at a few more places there. I know a lot about MSKCC's program, but what do folks know about Cornell, Columbia, and Sinai? I've heard that Cornell is quite heme-focussed. Can anyone who has trained in these places shed some light on them for me? Thanks :) zedx 08-01-2012, 12:19 PM Invite, UChicago. gutonc 08-01-2012, 12:26 PM Hi, friends. I'm a US grad coming from a well-known New England residency program. I have fairly good research background including a first author paper in a reputable journal. I am interested in heme malignancies, so a strong BMT program is important to me. I've applied to 8 and gotten 1 invite so far (from my home institution). Since I can do 2 more before getting charged by ERAS, I feel like I should. I have family in and around NYC, so it makes sense to look at a few more places there. I know a lot about MSKCC's program, but what do folks know about Cornell, Columbia, and Sinai? I've heard that Cornell is quite heme-focussed. Can anyone who has trained in these places shed some light on them for me? Thanks :) Cornell is all about the liquid stuff (which is why I didn't bother applying). NYU is also very heme focused but more benign than malignant. I think MSSM and Columbia are pretty well balanced. Back when I did an away there as an MS4 (which was 7 years ago, so things may have changed), Montefiore had a pretty heavy heme mal focus. If you're interested in spreading your geographic wings, out here on the Best Coast, UW, OHSU and Stanford all have strong heme mal/BMT programs as well. fischer 08-01-2012, 03:25 PM Invite, UChicago. Congrats!! miki511cn 08-01-2012, 04:05 PM Invite, UChicago. Congratulations:thumbup: akoult 08-01-2012, 04:13 PM U Mich. They called - so if you guys get a call from a 734- number, don't cancel it thinking it's some stupid person cold-calling for a cable company. fischer 08-01-2012, 05:07 PM UC Davis HemoOnc 08-01-2012, 05:42 PM IV from Moffitt and Medical Univ of SC. Elfik 08-01-2012, 06:04 PM Cornell is all about the liquid stuff (which is why I didn't bother applying). NYU is also very heme focused but more benign than malignant. I think MSSM and Columbia are pretty well balanced. Back when I did an away there as an MS4 (which was 7 years ago, so things may have changed), Montefiore had a pretty heavy heme mal focus. If you're interested in spreading your geographic wings, out here on the Best Coast, UW, OHSU and Stanford all have strong heme mal/BMT programs as well. Dear GutOnc, Thank you so much!! I was looking for this everywhere! :) Based on the previous search: OHSU U Minn NYU Cornell MSKCC Montefiore UW Stanford Is there any other program which is very strong in BMT-CC? (I heard about Thomas Jefferson Univ. but not sure) Again thank you so much for your help and support! gutonc 08-01-2012, 09:42 PM Dear GutOnc, Thank you so much!! I was looking for this everywhere! :) Based on the previous search: OHSU U Minn NYU Cornell MSKCC Montefiore UW Stanford Is there any other program which is very strong in BMT-CC? (I heard about Thomas Jefferson Univ. but not sure) Again thank you so much for your help and support! MSKCC is very solid focused. Otherwise those programs are all pretty heme mal heavy. Utah recently started a BMT program and is rising fast. City of Hope is strong in liquids. Fox Chase as well. 1978 08-02-2012, 05:18 AM hiii congrats what is ur credentials how many interviews so far 1978 08-02-2012, 05:21 AM NCI/NIH today. congrats what is ur credential 1978 08-02-2012, 05:25 AM hii for anyone who knows:confused: what does not mean that interviews was sent by NCI . do you think they will still send invitation for interviews or they kind off decided is it ood idea to call the program:scared: akoult 08-02-2012, 08:19 AM IV from Fox Chase/Temple Tedebear 08-02-2012, 08:26 AM Programs that have sent IVs/Rejections so far. Up to August 2, 2012. UTSW ECU VCU Columbia Penn state BIDMC UCSF NCI/NIH Moffitt/USF Uchicago U Mich UC Davis UNC University of SC Fox Chase/Temple miki511cn 08-02-2012, 10:27 AM Thanks Tedebear for helping the list! miki511cn 08-02-2012, 11:43 AM Hi, akoult: you are the star of the year! Big cong!!!! whitecoatjimmy 08-02-2012, 12:21 PM Invite, U of Iowa Blackcomb 08-02-2012, 12:39 PM Invitation from Jefferson. Good luck everybody! SwineLake98 08-02-2012, 01:00 PM Invite from Stanford! akoult 08-02-2012, 01:01 PM U Iowa. tele man 08-02-2012, 02:11 PM Tufts today zedx 08-02-2012, 05:30 PM Another for FoxChase/Temple blabbyblab 08-02-2012, 06:30 PM So far Iowa and Fox Chase, was hoping to hear from NCI but :/ PEG20K 08-02-2012, 06:56 PM Has anyone had interview invites from UCSF yet or is it just rejections so far? anemic 08-03-2012, 09:01 AM Invite tufts Michigan NIH Thomas Jefferson and Columbia.... Do the programs review the apps in batches or is not hearing from a program when others have a negative sign that they've passed over u and waiting for others to turn down invites? Good luck everyone hopefully more programs let us know soon Whitney 08-03-2012, 11:01 AM Anyone know why some programs send out IV invites in the first week and others take several weeks? Are the processes really that different at different places? feelfox 08-03-2012, 11:27 AM Anyone know why some programs send out IV invites in the first week and others take several weeks? Are the processes really that different at different places? I think those who send out Ives already spend 2 weeks reviewing applications. JohnnieBlue 08-03-2012, 11:30 AM Only interview is from Fox Chase so far, but it's my home institution. Would love to go there, but would like to have some other invites to increase my odds. feelfox 08-03-2012, 11:50 AM I know this is heme/onc forum. I am also applying for hem/onc this year. As things are not going so well, I am asking for some advice. I am an IMG. Ph.D from a state university in US. I do have a few first and second author articles from PhD and postdoctoral period, but not cancer related (microbiology). Residency trained from a university affiliated community program, and good USMLE scores. I know that I need to strengthen my background. I did inpt rotation in a good academic program, got a good LoR, and output rotation with an attending who is well known in his field. That attending is from a big name cancer institute. His LoR has not been uploaded yet. My other two LoR are from program director and an hem/ onc attending in my hospital. So far I have applied to 60 programs, 40 programs in mid July and 20 programs a few days ago. I have 1 interview. I am not sure how things will go for me this year, also not sure whether things would change once my last LoR is uploaded (maybe a little late anyway). I am thinking to apply to transfusion medicine as backup. It can be tight since most transfusion pg deadline is 9/1. I am wondering 1) how much transfusion medicine can boost my background if I want to try hem/onc again in the future? 2) if I have interview for transfusion medicine, should I tell program I am also applying to heme/onc as well? 3) I am a hospitalist in my residency hospital. Should I do some solid research ( in stead of just clinical rotation) as I will have some free time meanwhile? Thx. gutonc 08-03-2012, 12:04 PM I know this is heme/onc forum. I am also applying for hem/onc this year. As things are not going so well, I am asking for some advice. I am an IMG. Ph.D from a state university in US. I do have a few first and second author articles from PhD and postdoctoral period, but not cancer related (microbiology). Residency trained from a university affiliated community program, and good USMLE scores. I know that I need to strengthen my background. I did inpt rotation in a good academic program, got a good LoR, and output rotation with an attending who is well known in his field. That attending is from a big name cancer institute. His LoR has not been uploaded yet. My other two LoR are from program director and an hem/ onc attending in my hospital. So far I have applied to 60 programs, 40 programs in mid July and 20 programs a few days ago. I have 1 interview. I am not sure how things will go for me this year, also not sure whether things would change once my last LoR is uploaded (maybe a little late anyway). I am thinking to apply to transfusion medicine as backup. It can be tight since most transfusion pg deadline is 9/1. I am wondering 1) how much transfusion medicine can boost my background if I want to try hem/onc again in the future? 2) if I have interview for transfusion medicine, should I tell program I am also applying to heme/onc as well? 3) I am a hospitalist in my residency hospital. Should I do some solid research ( in stead of just clinical rotation) as I will have some free time meanwhile? Thx. It is seriously way too early to panic. My program won't meet to review apps for another 10 days. I'm sure we're not the only ones. Of the 60 apps you have out, if you don't have 59 rejections in addition to your one interview, you're doing OK. As for the transfusion fellowship question, I think those things (transfusion, BMT) don't really make much of a difference except possibly at the site where you do the fellowship. Frankly, on the off chance you wind up not matching, I'd work as a hospitalist for a year or two, make some money and then re-apply. Keep your hands dirty in the lab if you can as well. feelfox 08-03-2012, 12:48 PM Thx guconc. You are really nice. I received another interview. For programs we see in this forum that have sent out interviews, I know I am not their candidate pool, so I am ok not hearing from them. Not sure once the 4th LoR is uploaded, it will help me or not. Gutonc, my other question is whether palliative care is good to boost background? Or the best way to increase my chance is to get my hands dirty in the lab? How about clinical research? When I was rotating with the attending in that cancer center, there are lots of clinical research/trial ongoing, but most offten it is the NP who see pt on weekly base and report to PIs. Attendings only see pt once every chemo cycle. Elfik 08-03-2012, 02:01 PM HI, congratulations to all who got IVs! Successmatch 08-03-2012, 05:19 PM Hi, Got my first interview from univ of tennesee. Anyone knows about the program? zedx 08-04-2012, 09:52 PM so, question for you guys. My research adviser finally uploaded their recommendation letter yesterday; pretty big person in the field, etc. Would it be a bad idea to call programs to let them know in hopes of having the selection committee consider this rec? thnx. whitecoatjimmy 08-05-2012, 07:13 PM Invite from University of Colorado argentina09 08-05-2012, 08:30 PM Invite University of Kentucky, any info about this program? Thank you!:) happyslav 08-06-2012, 07:45 AM Thomas Jefferson's website says they interview 40 and enroll 5 fellows... What do you think this means about my chances if I got an interview early on? Pretty good right? gutonc 08-06-2012, 07:51 AM Thomas Jefferson's website says they interview 40 and enroll 5 fellows... What do you think this means about my chances if I got an interview early on? Pretty good right? I would say it puts your chances at 5/40 (12.5%) on a strictly probabilistic basis. whitecoatjimmy 08-06-2012, 10:48 AM Thomas Jefferson's website says they interview 40 and enroll 5 fellows... What do you think this means about my chances if I got an interview early on? Pretty good right? I would say it puts your chances at 5/40 (12.5%) on a strictly probabilistic basis. SDN needs to get "Like" or "+1" buttons. I would've liked the $#@! outta this. :thumbup: miki511cn 08-06-2012, 02:25 PM UTSW ECU VCU Columbia Penn state BIDMC UCSF NCI/NIH Moffitt/USF Uchicago U Mich UC Davis UNC University of SC Fox Chase/Temple Tufts Jefferson Uni. Iowa Standford Univ of colorado Univ of Kentucky Univ of Tennesse Univ of Rochester St. Louis University Vanderbilt Vermont Ohio State University Geogetown yale University of Oklahoma UIC Advocate Lutheran fischer 08-06-2012, 03:27 PM UTSW ECU VCU Columbia Penn state BIDMC UCSF NCI/NIH Moffitt/USF U Chicago U Mich UC Davis UNC University of SC Fox Chase/Temple Tufts Jefferson U Iowa Standford Univ of Colorado Univ of Kentucky Univ of Tennesse Univ of Rochester St. Louis University Vermont 7483 08-06-2012, 05:19 PM Generic notification by Duke that application is reviewed and IV will be sent at end of August. whitecoatjimmy 08-06-2012, 05:30 PM Invite by phone U of Michigan today happyslav 08-07-2012, 06:23 AM SLU and Jefferson IVs so far... The message center has been very quiet this week :-( Tedebear 08-07-2012, 09:51 AM Only one interview so far. Is it just me or are the interview invites completely random? Superstars are getting interviews but the rest of us are hit or miss. Gutonc, how many interviews do you recommend interviewing for a successful heme/onc match? I am not really a travel person ie airplanes, taxis, hotels etc but I will go to as many as needed (or if lucky to get more interviews) to match somewhere. Or a better question might be. What do previous applicants land on their rank list. I wonder if most applicants get their top three. Thanks guys. argentina09 08-07-2012, 11:32 AM I know Tedebear, feelSame way here, only one interview and 5 rejections so far. Wondering if more interviews Will come. I guess at this point thinking of going to all the interviews to increaseThe chances of the match... All the best! Ps// where is ur interview at? Thank u Is it just me or are the interview invites completely random? Superstars are getting interviews but the rest of us are hit or miss. Gutonc, how many interviews do you recommend interviewing for a successful heme/onc match? I am not really a travel person ie airplanes, taxis, hotels etc but I will go to as many as needed (or if lucky to get more interviews) to match somewhere. Or a better question might be. What do previous applicants land on their rank list. I wonder if most applicants get their top three. Thanks guys.[/QUOTE] argentina09 08-07-2012, 11:40 AM Rejection from university of Oklahoma today. I know Tedebear, feelSame way here, only one interview and 5 rejections so far. Wondering if more interviews Will come. I guess at this point thinking of going to all the interviews to increaseThe chances of the match... All the best! Ps// where is ur interview at? Thank u happyslav 08-07-2012, 11:41 AM from VCU. I was pretty good about not applying to the programs I had absolutely no chance at. So I didn't apply to Dana Farber, UCSF, MD Anderson, Sloan Kettering, etc. Actually, I never, never thought I would get an interview at Jefferson. So, I think the reason I don't have any rejections is because I applied to more modest programs than most. hotcoffee 08-07-2012, 02:12 PM Rejection from Ohio state university whitecoatjimmy 08-07-2012, 02:18 PM UTSW ECU VCU Columbia Penn state BIDMC UCSF NCI/NIH Moffitt/USF U Chicago UC Davis UNC University of SC Fox Chase/Temple Tufts Jefferson Stanford Univ of Colorado Univ of Iowa Univ of Kentucky Univ of Michigan Univ of Tennesse Univ of Rochester St. Louis University Vanderbilt Vermont Ohio State University eastlake 08-07-2012, 03:16 PM rejection from univ of oklahoma iv from univ of SC pipes118 08-07-2012, 03:25 PM yale just sent out interviews anemic 08-07-2012, 03:45 PM Georgetown invite vinnyjch 08-07-2012, 08:39 PM IMG 1 interview from advocate lutheran. 6 rejections so far. gls5377 08-08-2012, 12:24 AM invite to VCU and Jefferson. No rejections yet but I am concerned about the slowness of this process. I suspected more action by early august given the shortened timeline. I know about VCU : great BMT program and they do about 150 transplants per year more then UNC and just less than DUKE. Great clinical program and two clinics per week one at VA and one at VCU and you own those patients. Great experience. anyways im wondering about jeffersons program. anyone out there have some insight? 4life 08-08-2012, 11:55 AM IV from UIC Rej from VCU and USF/Moffitt Hoping/praying for more. Good luck to all genecancer 08-08-2012, 12:11 PM Anyone know why some programs send out IV invites in the first week and others take several weeks? Are the processes really that different at different places? The whole process is quite random, from what I have seen so far. Even the same program can send out IVs in batches. I got an IV from a program on 24th July, and my friend got an IV from them on the 1st August. Guess what? My friend's credentials are better than mine . I still dont even know why I applied there since I did not consider myself good enough for such top tier places....till I saw the IV on the 24th. Morale of the story: like Gutonc said, as long as you do not have a rejection yet from a program, DO NOT GIVE UP. I hope I learnt a lesson from that experience. miki511cn 08-08-2012, 02:47 PM I just checked my ADTs. There is still one program have not download any of my documentations. How a bout you guys? whitecoatjimmy 08-08-2012, 02:52 PM I just checked my ADTs. There is still one program have not download any of my documentations. How a bout you guys? Emory just downloaded my letters on 8/6 (loaded a few days after my original application). They were the last one to do so. My wife is applying to Cards and one of the Texas programs still has not downloaded her app. I think the action is slowly starting to pick up, and I would imagine we'll see more movement next week. That's not speculation at all, of course ;) Successmatch 08-08-2012, 06:11 PM IV from Baylor 4life 08-09-2012, 10:56 AM Has anyone heard from University of Alabama Medical Center Program? The program hasn't downloaded my application or documents yets, applied to them with rest on Sept 2nd. Wondering if that is the same with others? Of the programs I applied to, this is the only program that hasn't downloaded my application yet. happyslav 08-09-2012, 11:07 AM Yep, same here. UAB has not downloaded my application. Actually, there are maybe 5 programs that haven't downloaded anything yet. Several New York programs. SwineLake98 08-09-2012, 12:21 PM Invite from Dana-Farber/Partners :) akoult 08-09-2012, 12:28 PM Baylor, Dallas yest. OSU today. anemic 08-10-2012, 01:39 AM Minnesota invite feelfox 08-10-2012, 06:15 AM so, question for you guys. My research adviser finally uploaded their recommendation letter yesterday; pretty big person in the field, etc. Would it be a bad idea to call programs to let them know in hopes of having the selection committee consider this rec? thnx. This is what I did. My 4th lor was finally uploaded. The attending has been so busy. He taped the letter, and his assistant typed and uploaded the letter. I updated all programs except those that rejected me. Some programs, such as UMN, required all applications should be submitted by aug 1st. I hope they will add this letter to my file. pawster 08-10-2012, 11:29 AM Hi all, Do programs officially send rejections or is it no news is bad news? Thanks! jigi0412 08-10-2012, 11:31 AM I am curious how the program is sending out the interview inviation since I am still waiting for the invitation from some program who has already started sent their invitations. I wonder whether they send out the invitation in different batches or just all together in one day. If you have any idea, please share with me. gutonc 08-10-2012, 12:37 PM I am curious how the program is sending out the interview inviation since I am still waiting for the invitation from some program who has already started sent their invitations. I wonder whether they send out the invitation in different batches or just all together in one day. If you have any idea, please share with me. There is a really excellent answer to that question posted over here (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showpost.php?p=12882333&postcount=132). gls5377 08-10-2012, 01:16 PM Very slow week for me no interviews. It's very odd to see programs like Ohio State and only one person on here state they have an invite it feels like there's still a lot more to be given I wonder if they're just giving out quick ones to home applicants and Amazing candidates. I just think that if they were giving them out program were giving out interviews in batches then more people on this website would have interviews anemic 08-10-2012, 01:27 PM Dana farber rejection as expected happygolucky1 08-10-2012, 01:46 PM they definitely give it out in batches; i think what they do is that they give applicants they like more the interview offer, then they wait for a time to see the other applicants apply vs applicants saying no, then they give out another batch. eastlake 08-10-2012, 02:42 PM Ohio State program is top 20 in the country. it is very competitive... miki511cn 08-10-2012, 03:05 PM 37 out of total 136 programs sent out inv or rej. I would say more than 37, since the number is only collected from this forum.... whitecoatjimmy 08-10-2012, 03:15 PM Invite from Washington University today...to balance out Dana Farber dropping some ProMACE-CytaBOM (read: rejection) on my @$$ this afternoon. miki511cn 08-10-2012, 04:14 PM nice ,cong! RVS 08-11-2012, 01:36 PM Just thought I would put this out there: I'm an MD/PhD who had a first author paper in Science in grad school. I went to a top 20 residency program (not Harvard affiliated), have good test scores, and good recommendations. I was not AOA or a chief resident. I just got smacked down by Dana Farber, although I see I am in good company on this forum. What does it take to get an interview there, other than coming from BWH or MGH? Also, any other ideas of which other top programs are best for someone who would like an academic career in basic research, with a smaller component of clinical work? foxp3 08-11-2012, 02:02 PM Depending on what type of research you want to do, but MSK's research is as good as DFCI. They also protect your time very well so you only need to spend minimal amount of time in clinical. It is surprising that you werent invited to DFCI but they extremely prefer inside people from MGH and BWGH so that may have contributed...Good luck. SwineLake98 08-11-2012, 07:31 PM Just thought I would put this out there: I'm an MD/PhD who had a first author paper in Science in grad school. I went to a top 20 residency program (not Harvard affiliated), have good test scores, and good recommendations. I was not AOA or a chief resident. I just got smacked down by Dana Farber, although I see I am in good company on this forum. What does it take to get an interview there, other than coming from BWH or MGH? Also, any other ideas of which other top programs are best for someone who would like an academic career in basic research, with a smaller component of clinical work? The DFCI is a tough place to get your foot in the door, even from somewhat the inside. I'm not BWH or MGH, but I'm in a Harvard program and have done clinical rotations and research there. For what it's worth, they're at least honest about the fact that they keep people they know. I'm worried about my own chances since there are so many MD/PhDs from the Brigham and MGH who apply in Onc each year. That being said, from a research standpoint, I think MD Anderson, Hopkins, the NIH, UCSF, and MSKCC are just at strong. Also, don't ignore places like BIDMC and Cornell, where you would still have access to all that Harvard or MSKCC/Rockefeller, respectively, have to offer for the non-clinical time. Good luck! It sounds like you're going to do just fine ;) tele man 08-13-2012, 12:05 PM Boston University whitecoatjimmy 08-13-2012, 12:11 PM Adding Northwestern University :thumbup: miki511cn 08-13-2012, 02:51 PM Got IV from Baylor, they called. anemic 08-13-2012, 03:16 PM Invite unc and yale:thumbup: gls5377 08-13-2012, 04:02 PM Did you get UNC today. Did they call it email anemic 08-13-2012, 05:58 PM today via email whitecoatjimmy 08-14-2012, 06:05 AM Mayo Rochester this AM :thumbup: good luck to everyone today! akoult 08-14-2012, 06:24 AM Johns Hopkins/SKCCC by email. akoult 08-14-2012, 07:12 AM Advocate Lutheran Baylor, Dallas BIDMC BU Columbia DFCI ECU Fox Chase/Temple Georgetown Jefferson Johns Hopkins/SKCCC Mayo Rochester Moffitt/USF MUSC NCI/NIH Northwestern Ohio State University Penn State/Hershey Stanford St. Louis University Tufts UNC UC Davis UCSF UIC U Chicago U Colorado U Iowa U Kentucky U Michigan U Minn U Rochester U Tennesse USC UTSW VCU Vanderbilt Vermont Wash U Yale blabbyblab 08-14-2012, 08:17 AM NYU this morning! So far IV at NYU, OSU, Fox Chase, Iowa, Wash U, JHU, NCI, U Chicago Waiting for Cornell, Columbia, MSKCC, Duke, Mayo, KU, Penn Rej from Dana Farber My calender is already looking prohibitively full. tele man 08-14-2012, 11:08 AM UMass and UNC DrVanNostran 08-14-2012, 12:08 PM So a question to all you folks... 1. How many places did you apply to? 2. How many interviews do you plan on going on? Good luck! pipes118 08-14-2012, 12:29 PM applied to 24, hope to go on half. SwineLake98 08-14-2012, 03:53 PM So a question to all you folks... 1. How many places did you apply to? 2. How many interviews do you plan on going on? Good luck! I'm looking to stay at my home program or another program in town, so I honestly didn't apply to too many places. My program director recommended I go on 6-7 interviews. I applied to 10 places total. I've been invited by 4 programs so far and scheduled interviews with all of them. I'm hoping to schedule about 4 more. I'm definitely less stressed than my GI and Cards friends who applied to 30+ places! argentina09 08-14-2012, 09:55 PM invite from UMass and Mount Sinai School of Medicine Any input from these programs? Thank you! happyslav 08-14-2012, 11:13 PM Advocate Lutheran Baylor, Dallas BIDMC BU Columbia DFCI ECU Fox Chase/Temple Georgetown Johns Hopkins/SKCCC LSU-NO Mayo Rochester Moffitt/USF MUSC NCI/NIH Northwestern Ohio State University Penn State/Hershey Stanford St. Elizabeth's, Boston St. Johns / Providence St. Louis University Thomas Jefferson Tufts UNC UC Davis UCSF UIC U Chicago U Colorado U Iowa U Kentucky U Michigan U Minn U Rochester U Tennesse USC UTHSC San Antonio UTSW VCU Vanderbilt Vermont Wash U Yale Chimhalter 08-15-2012, 08:42 AM I think by "USC" above, you mean MUSC - Medical University of South Carolina. I don't recall seeing any Univ. of So. California interviews posted on this board yet.:) ukdoc74 08-15-2012, 09:51 AM Not applying this year but have been keeping a close eye on things here the last two years. It seems like there are three tiers of applicants. 1. RockStars (ala GutOnc) - these applicants receive interviews from Memorial Sloan Kettering, Farber, or MD Anderson etc. These applicants apply to 10-20 programs, CHOOSE which 6-8 interviews to go to, and match at their top three choices. 2. Middle of the Road - These applicants apply to the Farber, MD Anderson, Kettering and get no interviews from the top place. These applicants get half academic/half community hospital interviews. Apply to 20-30 programs, go to 8-10 interviews, and match at top five. 3. Bottom of the Pack - these applicants apply to 30+ programs, go to whatever number of interviews offered (less than 5). If they receive more than 5 interview invites they are considered Middle of the Road. If they get less than 5 interviews, they either match or don't match. We can add GutOnc's perspective on this, but it seems like RockStars can go wherever they want to go (ie based on the strong academics or location). Middle of the Road end up matching as long as they go on at least 5 interviews. And Bottom of the Pack, end up matching depending on whether they receive more than 5 interviews. I think this is why upperclassmen at my program keep saying that the same people show up on the interview trail because based on people's application they end up in one on these tiers. What do you guys think? Tedebear 08-15-2012, 10:12 AM Sitting on two interviews and I get an email filled with drama today. LOL Does this mean I should wait til midnight for the second email? Would have preferred an outright rejection to be honest. firstgenedoc 08-15-2012, 11:11 AM Sitting on two interviews and I get an email filled with drama today. LOL Does this mean I should wait til midnight for the second email? Would have preferred an outright rejection to be honest. Got the same email. It says we should've got the second email yesterday? (Aug 14?) :confused: eastlake 08-15-2012, 12:28 PM I got the same email and i see it as a rejection, because the iv was sent yesterday? Tedebear 08-15-2012, 12:37 PM Dont forget we are not "allowed" to email back ;) Still doesnt top Ohio States email "You dont meet our standards" whitecoatjimmy 08-15-2012, 12:43 PM I got the same email and i see it as a rejection, because the iv was sent yesterday? Also got the email, but I'm not quite as pessimistic. I think it was just a simple clerical error (btw, did anyone else find it humorous that the message never specified what program it was from aside from the email address?). Since no one else has chimed in that an Emory invite has been received, I'm assuming we're all in the same boat (which may or may not be on course to violently crash into a jagged rocky shoreline lined with the remains of applicants past). :eek: gls5377 08-15-2012, 01:20 PM Rejection from UNC. I'm a little bitter feelfox 08-15-2012, 01:26 PM Rejection is better than dead science. Blackcomb 08-15-2012, 01:41 PM Also got my rejection from UNC today 4life 08-15-2012, 01:49 PM Received UNC reject as well happygolucky1 08-15-2012, 02:42 PM UNC reject firstgenedoc 08-15-2012, 02:50 PM Emory says it was a mistake. Still reviewing applications. :o vinnyjch 08-15-2012, 03:47 PM Did anyone recieve email from Wash U/Fred Hutch yesterday that they will let us know on 17th? fischer 08-15-2012, 03:55 PM First rejection today...UNC as well. Tedebear 08-15-2012, 04:01 PM UNC rejection SwineLake98 08-16-2012, 08:33 AM Did anyone recieve email from Wash U/Fred Hutch yesterday that they will let us know on 17th? Yup, I did. tag_do 08-16-2012, 10:03 AM University of Michigan is making phone calls for interviews (2nd round, I think) whitecoatjimmy 08-16-2012, 10:10 AM Univ of Wisconsin today. tag_do 08-16-2012, 01:04 PM MD Anderson today pawster 08-16-2012, 02:19 PM OHSU today. feelfox 08-16-2012, 06:16 PM University of Washington interview pipes118 08-16-2012, 06:18 PM University of Washington interview ditto!!! SwineLake98 08-16-2012, 06:58 PM ditto!!! Me three! tooquiet 08-17-2012, 03:45 AM Did anyone else get MD Anderson other than tag_do? whitecoatjimmy 08-17-2012, 03:59 AM Did anyone else get MD Anderson other than tag_do? Nothing on my end so far. Do we know if this was the MD Anderson/Univ of Texas at Houston program or the Orlando Health System/MD Anderson Florida program that offered the interview? tooquiet 08-17-2012, 05:11 AM I see your point. Thanks Jimmy. I was talking about the Houston one. Blackcomb 08-17-2012, 06:03 AM Rejection from UPenn today vinnyjch 08-17-2012, 06:14 AM Rjection from UPenn. Aplastic Crisis 08-17-2012, 07:35 AM Rjection from UPenn. Same here :thumbdown SwineLake98 08-17-2012, 08:10 AM Sorry, guys :( I got an invite from Penn. I haven't heard anything from the NYC programs (MSKCC, Cornell...). They seem to be taking their time, which is making planning hard! tele man 08-17-2012, 08:17 AM As of now, Penn has me in limbo. No invite or reject. firstgenedoc 08-17-2012, 08:54 AM University of Louisville and Albert Einstein college of medicine :thumbup: vinnyjch 08-17-2012, 09:33 AM Another rejection from Johns Hopkins:(..2 already today. Aplastic Crisis 08-17-2012, 10:48 AM Are there any D.O.'s applying? How are you guys doing with the interviews? DrVanNostran 08-17-2012, 11:18 AM applied to 24, hope to go on half. I'm looking to stay at my home program or another program in town, so I honestly didn't apply to too many places. My program director recommended I go on 6-7 interviews. I applied to 10 places total. I've been invited by 4 programs so far and scheduled interviews with all of them. I'm hoping to schedule about 4 more. I'm definitely less stressed than my GI and Cards friends who applied to 30+ places! Thanks for the info. Seems like I am hearing a lot of people apply to 25-30, go on 10. Are you guys getting a good range of dates to apply? happygolucky1 08-17-2012, 11:27 AM nope. 4 dates avg. gutonc 08-17-2012, 12:46 PM Are you guys getting a good range of dates to apply? FWIW,.we're offering 5 dates with a 6th in reserve. Planning to interview 6-8/day. We'll see how it goes. tag_do 08-17-2012, 01:19 PM Nothing on my end so far. Do we know if this was the MD Anderson/Univ of Texas at Houston program or the Orlando Health System/MD Anderson Florida program that offered the interview? it was MD Anderson, UT Houston whitecoatjimmy 08-17-2012, 03:42 PM it was MD Anderson, UT Houston Great googely moogely. I was afraid you were going to say that. Huge congrats though! :thumbup: gls5377 08-17-2012, 04:19 PM Are there any D.O.'s applying? How are you guys doing with the interviews?DOING I have two invites to Vcu and Thomas Jefferson.i have been rejected by UNC , Hopkins and UPenn. I guess the latter were to be expected. But I was aiming high. I only applied to 12 programs total because I love my home program I only applied to program Conciveay better than my own. I'm not opptumistic anymore are coming though. Anyone else ? whitecoatjimmy 08-17-2012, 05:46 PM Invite this evening from UCSF. Only 2 interview dates in September were offered, neither of which were convenient, but I won't complain too much. SwineLake98 08-17-2012, 06:41 PM Invite this evening from UCSF. Only 2 interview dates in September were offered, neither of which were convenient, but I won't complain too much. I just got it, too. We must have been their second round. Aplastic Crisis 08-17-2012, 07:18 PM DOING I have two invites to Vcu and Thomas Jefferson.i have been rejected by UNC , Hopkins and UPenn. I guess the latter were to be expected. But I was aiming high. I only applied to 12 programs total because I love my home program I only applied to program Conciveay better than my own. I'm not opptumistic anymore are coming though. Anyone else ? I have same rejections :( vinnyjch 08-17-2012, 07:45 PM 3 rejections today- U Penn,Johns Hopkins,Washington University in one day:(( happygolucky1 08-18-2012, 09:38 AM Has UCLA olive view downloaded the application? pawster 08-18-2012, 11:17 AM anyone heard from UCLA? Aplastic Crisis 08-18-2012, 11:47 AM Has UCLA olive view downloaded the application? They did couple days ago gls5377 08-18-2012, 06:14 PM There are still a lot of programs (i.e Clev clinic, Univ of Rochester NY, Univ Maryland and, UPItt) that I have not seen anything on. do you all think it will be soon or what? happygolucky1 08-19-2012, 03:46 AM I sure hope so. Its now or never. Successmatch 08-19-2012, 07:29 AM IV from U conn SwineLake98 08-20-2012, 09:27 AM FYI, for anyone else who got UCSF Friday, since I can't be in the Bay Area until October, I politely asked if they could accommodate me in oct and they found another date! anemic 08-20-2012, 09:44 AM rejection from Northwestern and upenn happyslav 08-20-2012, 10:24 AM Northwestern and NYU.... I was expecting them though It feels like there is going to be a lot of activity this week :-) Ready to just get the rejections over with akoult 08-20-2012, 10:39 AM Duke's Heme/Onc program. 9 dates. Alemtuzumab 08-20-2012, 11:17 AM It seems like a lot of programs are interviewing on the same dates and I trying to see how to prioritize scheduling. Any thoughts on the relative merits of UWash, Columbia, UPenn and NIH/NCI? I'm specifically interested in basic science research and preparation for an academic career. I'm more interested in malignant heme than in solid tumors (but not necessarily BMT), but the basic science is the most important thing for me. Any insight would be appreciated! anemic 08-20-2012, 11:54 AM Thanks for the info. Seems like I am hearing a lot of people apply to 25-30, go on 10. Are you guys getting a good range of dates to apply? I applied to 35 as wasnt sure how many i would get and how flexible they would be right now have about 10 scheduled and still waiting to hear from about half (and half of those have sent some int and rejections on this forum)... Lots of dates overlap... Seems most are thurs, fr, or monday options 4life 08-20-2012, 01:20 PM Just now, reject from University of Wisconsin Program :thumbdown opinionkitten 08-20-2012, 01:25 PM Hello All, I am waiting on 1 LOR to get uploaded. I have emailed the writer a few times but have not heard back. Should I be in panic mode/get another LOR writer ASAP or chill out and let him get around to it? I have 5 interviews in hand as of now, 2 of which are from my top choices. Thanks for your help! vinnyjch 08-20-2012, 01:44 PM IV or Rej? happygolucky1 08-20-2012, 01:50 PM Ask your PD to nudge your letter writer in the right direction, unless the letter writer is the PD ;) fischer 08-20-2012, 03:04 PM Mixed bag today. Rejection from Northwestern, invite from Wake, UMDNJ, and OSHU!! SwineLake98 08-20-2012, 03:14 PM Just got an invite from Mt. Sinai. tele man 08-20-2012, 03:33 PM Got my pretty much expected reject from Penn today. 5/7 invites so far for me with another 7 to go. anemic 08-20-2012, 03:56 PM Invite today... Seems like a great program but not nci designated... Still worth interviewing over somewhere like minnesota or colorado or yale? Same question for cornell? Im looking for good balance between heme and onc although tilting heme opinionkitten 08-20-2012, 04:24 PM Ucsd iv Bone Marrow 08-20-2012, 04:35 PM Hi all, I would like to share with you experience. I submitted my application in 7/19 I am from University Program, currently Chief resident, has done a oral presentation and a poster presentation. 4 LOR one from nationally renowned Oncologist. I am FMG on a J1 Visa. So far I got, UK, OSU, Vanderbilt, MD Anderson, and today I got Albert Einestine. Rejections from UPENN, JHK, Dana Farber, Northwestern, UW, University of Wisconsin, UNC gutonc 08-20-2012, 05:03 PM Invite today... Seems like a great program but not nci designated... Still worth interviewing over somewhere like minnesota or colorado or yale? Same question for cornell? Im looking for good balance between heme and onc although tilting heme Invite from where? Also, don't get too wrapped up in the NCI designation mishigas (apologies to "the chosen" if I misspelled that and to everyone else for what appears to be a nonsense word). It's not nearly as important as you, or your Aunt Ethel think it is. happygolucky1 08-20-2012, 05:12 PM Mt. Sinai anemic 08-20-2012, 05:25 PM Error anemic 08-20-2012, 05:28 PM Invite from where? Also, don't get too wrapped up in the NCI designation mishigas (apologies to "the chosen" if I misspelled that and to everyone else for what appears to be a nonsense word). It's not nearly as important as you, or your Aunt Ethel think it is. Mount sinai Isoniazid 08-20-2012, 07:21 PM I applied last application cycle and interviewed at some of these program. I think cornell is a place to definitely interview if you are leaning heme, I like the program. Required lab research 2nd year of fellowship, can be positive/negative depending on your background/future interest. Colorado is big into Phase I clinical trials, did not emphasize heme too much on interview day. Mount Sinai, interview day was a little disorganized, but I think you would see a good mix of heme and onc. I think it is reasonable to take a look at the program. Yale is a growing program, new cancer center. Some new heme faculty, but I think the solid tumor side is moreso on the upswing with several major recruitments to the faculty. Hope this helps. Iso Invite today... Seems like a great program but not nci designated... Still worth interviewing over somewhere like minnesota or colorado or yale? Same question for cornell? Im looking for good balance between heme and onc although tilting heme happyslav 08-21-2012, 06:37 AM Officially applied on 7/19. took USMLE scores a few days to get to the application. IMG, US citizen. great letters. no pubs. great USMLE scores. applied to 90 programs so far... 5 rejections 13 interviews -- half university, half community Not sure how many have already silently rejected me still hoping for a few more key university interviews Good luck to everyone! anemic 08-21-2012, 07:15 AM I applied last application cycle and interviewed at some of these program. I think cornell is a place to definitely interview if you are leaning heme, I like the program. Required lab research 2nd year of fellowship, can be positive/negative depending on your background/future interest. Colorado is big into Phase I clinical trials, did not emphasize heme too much on interview day. Mount Sinai, interview day was a little disorganized, but I think you would see a good mix of heme and onc. I think it is reasonable to take a look at the program. Yale is a growing program, new cancer center. Some new heme faculty, but I think the solid tumor side is moreso on the upswing with several major recruitments to the faculty. Hope this helps. Iso Very helpful thank u genecancer 08-21-2012, 08:37 AM Officially applied on 7/19. took USMLE scores a few days to get to the application. IMG, US citizen. great letters. no pubs. great USMLE scores. applied to 90 programs so far... 5 rejections 13 interviews -- half university, half community Not sure how many have already silently rejected me still hoping for a few more key university interviews Good luck to everyone! Thanks for the update. You are really doing great!!! Quick question for ya, if you dont mind : Which community programs did you hear from? I have not heard from any of mine and I am just curious why? I heard from University programs though ; so not sure what is happening. happyslav 08-21-2012, 09:03 AM advocate lutheran, st. elizabeth's boston, baylor dallas ... a few others I can't think of right now. genecancer 08-21-2012, 09:26 AM advocate lutheran, st. elizabeth's boston, baylor dallas ... a few others I can't think of right now. Thanks for the prompt reply. Wonder why they dont want me :(, though I didnt apply to Baylor D. Lets see what the next 2 weeks will bring. Thanks again for the info. akoult 08-21-2012, 10:20 AM Indiana U, Loyola 4life 08-21-2012, 10:52 AM Today: Loyola - IV Wake Forest - Reject Since yesterday 3 rejects from University of Wisconsin. I guess they really didn't want me there ;-). And an apology mail, for multiple rejects. LOL anemic 08-21-2012, 11:31 AM Duke rejection tele man 08-21-2012, 11:42 AM Also got my Dook rejection. feelfox 08-21-2012, 12:38 PM Received IV from MUSC. I was offered only one date. MUSC already sent out iv before my 4th LoR was available. I updated them. The PC was very kind replying me that the LoR was added to my file. I am lucky. Any information about this program. It is kind of far away from where I reside. One question, I was offered only one date. Unfortunately that date is already occupied by another IV. What should I do? gutonc 08-21-2012, 12:42 PM Received IV from MUSC. I was offered only one date. MUSC already sent out iv before my 4th LoR was available. I guess I am luck. One question, I was offered only one date. Unfortunately that date is already occupied. What should I do? Call/email and tell them that...ask for another date. I doubt they only have one date available, but it makes life much easier for the PC if they just assign you a date and you say yes or no to it. Every place I got a "this date only" invite from allowed me to adjust it if I needed to (I didn't always need to). feelfox 08-21-2012, 12:43 PM Call/email and tell them that...ask for another date. I doubt they only have one date available, but it makes life much easier for the PC if they just assign you a date and you say yes or no to it. Every place I got a "this date only" invite from allowed me to adjust it if I needed to (I didn't always need to). Thanks Gutonc. I will do. zedx 08-21-2012, 01:12 PM Montefiore and Tufts. Whew, was starting to get worried! :o genecancer 08-21-2012, 02:25 PM Hi Successmatch, I sent you a PM. Hope to hear from you soon. happygolucky1 08-21-2012, 02:54 PM has anyone heard from ucla, ucla harbor or ucla olive view? miki511cn 08-21-2012, 05:37 PM has anyone heard from ucla, ucla harbor or ucla olive view? Or UC irvine? happygolucky1 08-21-2012, 06:30 PM ucsd rejection Blackcomb 08-22-2012, 05:54 AM Anyone hear yet from UVA or U of Maryland? happyslav 08-22-2012, 07:36 AM Rejection from U Iowa anemic 08-22-2012, 08:35 AM Anyone hear yet from UVA or U of Maryland? Didnt hear from umd but didnt apply to uva 4life 08-22-2012, 10:58 AM Reject from Mayo (Rochester) fischer 08-22-2012, 02:07 PM Guys, need some help. I was worried about interviews, so applied to WAY to many programs, now need some help narrowing it down. Want to remain in academics, have background in basic science so that remains a possiblity, but my home residency doesn't have a fellowship so haven't been exposed to any clinical research yet. Leaning toward malig heme but not 100% sure.... Invites: 1. Thomas Jefferson 2. Tufts 3. UMass 4. BU 5. VCU 6. Wake 7. JHU 8. Yale 9. OHSU 10. UC Davis 11. University of Vermont 12. University of Rochester 13. UMDNJ 14. University of Wisconson 15. Washington University 16. Yale Planning on going to Yale, Wash U, U of Wis, UC Davis, OHSU, Wake, Univ of Wis, Thomas Jefferson, VCU, Univer of Tenn (know someone there). Anyone have any opinions/thoughts on the ones I haven't committed an interview to? Having a hard time deciding which ones to go on. SwineLake98 08-22-2012, 02:55 PM Guys, need some help. I was worried about interviews, so applied to WAY to many programs, now need some help narrowing it down. Want to remain in academics, have background in basic science so that remains a possiblity, but my home residency doesn't have a fellowship so haven't been exposed to any clinical research yet. Leaning toward malig heme but not 100% sure.... Invites: 1. Thomas Jefferson 2. Tufts 3. UMass 4. BU 5. VCU 6. Wake 7. JHU 8. Yale 9. OHSU 10. UC Davis 11. University of Vermont 12. University of Rochester 13. UMDNJ 14. University of Wisconson 15. Washington University 16. Yale Planning on going to Yale, Wash U, U of Wis, UC Davis, OHSU, Wake, Univ of Wis, Thomas Jefferson, VCU, Univer of Tenn (know someone there). Anyone have any opinions/thoughts on the ones I haven't committed an interview to? Having a hard time deciding which ones to go on. If you could fit it in, I might be worth checking out Rochester. There are some strong heme malignancy folks (at least in lymphoma), and it's a nice working environment (a lot of people from my med school did residency there). I would skip BU. Tufts is a respectable program, but I know someone who had trouble getting a job after trainging there, which has soured my impression of it. gutonc 08-22-2012, 03:04 PM Guys, need some help. I was worried about interviews, so applied to WAY to many programs, now need some help narrowing it down. Want to remain in academics, have background in basic science so that remains a possiblity, but my home residency doesn't have a fellowship so haven't been exposed to any clinical research yet. Leaning toward malig heme but not 100% sure.... Invites: 1. Thomas Jefferson 2. Tufts 3. UMass 4. BU 5. VCU 6. Wake 7. JHU 8. Yale 9. OHSU 10. UC Davis 11. University of Vermont 12. University of Rochester 13. UMDNJ 14. University of Wisconson 15. Washington University 16. Yale Planning on going to Yale, Wash U, U of Wis, UC Davis, OHSU, Wake, Univ of Wis, Thomas Jefferson, VCU, Univer of Tenn (know someone there). Anyone have any opinions/thoughts on the ones I haven't committed an interview to? Having a hard time deciding which ones to go on. FWIW, Davis has virtually no malignant heme. Honestly, tack on Hopkins to your current list and call it a day. Maybe swap out UMDNJ (assuming you mean RWJ) for VCU or Wake but you can keep it the way it is and be fine. fischer 08-22-2012, 03:25 PM FWIW, Davis has virtually no malignant heme. Honestly, tack on Hopkins to your current list and call it a day. Maybe swap out UMDNJ (assuming you mean RWJ) for VCU or Wake but you can keep it the way it is and be fine. Good gosh, didn't mean to forget Hopkins as I definitely plan to interview there. Thanks for the info- appreciated!! firstgenedoc 08-22-2012, 03:31 PM U of Min rejection tele man 08-22-2012, 07:35 PM Brown invite anemic 08-23-2012, 08:45 AM Current interviews scheduled- nih, georgetown, unc, jhu, mt sinai, columbia, jefferson (already attended), baylor, michigan, colorado Waiting on Cornell, msk, nyu, Bidmc, Chicago, fox chase, Md anderson, upmc, umd, emory, bu Rejected duke, dana farber, nwu, upenn and guessing some of those i havent heard from Scheduling conflicts with yale and michigan as well as sinai and minnesota... Also yale and unc... I am interested in getting good broad experience but tilting heme... Any thoughts on this list (which im pretty happy with overall and just being picky) gls5377 08-23-2012, 08:50 AM how was Jefferson? gutonc 08-23-2012, 09:14 AM Current interviews scheduled- nih, georgetown, unc, jhu, mt sinai, columbia, jefferson (already attended), baylor, michigan, colorado Waiting on Cornell, msk, nyu, Bidmc, Chicago, fox chase, Md anderson, upmc, umd, emory, bu Rejected duke, dana farber, nwu, upenn and guessing some of those i havent heard from Scheduling conflicts with yale and michigan as well as sinai and minnesota... Also yale and unc... I am interested in getting good broad experience but tilting heme... Any thoughts on this list (which im pretty happy with overall and just being picky) Your list looks good. If I were in your shoes, I'd probably do Michigan and/or UNC over Yale and MSSM. But I lean solid. If you're thinking heme mal...UMinn is the home of BMT...you don't get much more heme mal than that. The rest of those places are decently balanced although probably tending more solid. And Colorado could not get less heme mal if it tried. pipes118 08-23-2012, 09:59 AM MSKCC today! SwineLake98 08-23-2012, 10:05 AM MSKCC today! Me, too. :) tele man 08-23-2012, 10:29 AM Sloan here too. Nice selection of interview dates too. whitecoatjimmy 08-23-2012, 12:30 PM To my fellow MSK invitees, have you guys all heard from MDACC? This wouldn't be much of an issue but I'm couples matching w/ my wife (applying to cards) and she's heard from 2 programs in Houston but I've yet to hear anything from MD Anderson...just trying to determine my odds of interviewing there before she buys plane tix to HOU. Any input would be appreciated. Cheers, jimmy de chaqueta blanca opinionkitten 08-23-2012, 02:57 PM see below opinionkitten 08-23-2012, 02:59 PM has anyone heard from ucla, ucla harbor or ucla olive view? i heard from Harbor/Kaiser , got an invite that didnt include any dates. I have had a hard time getting ahold of the office regarding getting a date scheduled. pipes118 08-23-2012, 05:57 PM I think you should call MD Anderson and see if the committee can make a decision on you. No harm in trying, and they'll see that you're definitely interested in them. zedx 08-24-2012, 09:21 PM Mt. Sinai and Penn. pipes118 08-25-2012, 08:29 AM cornell KeepOnTruckin07 08-25-2012, 09:52 AM For DFCI do they only interview internal applicants? Only interview from the big big programs or interview but just not rank? They seem rather elusive.... zensatori 08-25-2012, 01:50 PM Any ideas about questions that are commonly asked in an interview? why do u prepare yourself for the whole I.V. process? SwineLake98 08-25-2012, 03:51 PM For DFCI do they only interview internal applicants? Only interview from the big big programs or interview but just not rank? They seem rather elusive.... In a typical year, they match 6 MGH, 6 BWH, and 1-2 BI or 1-2 outside (2 folks I know that trained at the DFCI and came from the outside both did residency at Cornell, for what it's worth). I remembered coming across this is one of the other threads: I don't have actual data (and DFCI does a really nice job of hiding it on their public website) but I know a few current/former DFCI fellows and they are roughly 50/50 HMS/outside residents. I don't think DFCI has a "pro-HMS" bias so much as they see so many of the HMS program residents (and that's ~120 residents between the 3 programs) and it's just a lot easier to rank a candidate that you know (and that knows you) than somebody you don't know outside of their numbers/letters/interview. There's no other program that has so much easy access to good local talent. They don't have to take people from outside, so they don't bother. That is, quite honestly, to the detriment of the program, and none of the people I know who have trained there there have wanted to stay there. zedx 08-25-2012, 05:40 PM When I was up there interviewing at BWH, had a chance to meet with one of the higher ups at DFCI; who was pretty blunt about their preference for BWH/MGH residents, given that they are the known entities vs outside candidates. avidgolfer 08-27-2012, 10:22 AM Univ of Maryland today, Colorado yesterday (weird, that the program coordinator called on a Sunday) WildcatGal 08-27-2012, 12:40 PM Univ of Maryland today, Colorado yesterday (weird, that the program coordinator called on a Sunday) Wait til you visit the program, you haven't seen anything yet. Don't forget to ask about the call and weekend work schedule. |