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			<title>Hi every body</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 02:55:45 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi every body, 
Can some body help me about NBDE on line courses & will it available for those in Canada & finally if there are any institutions in the United state which offer NBDE on line courses? 
Thank`s a lot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi every body,<br />
Can some body help me about NBDE on line courses &amp; will it available for those in Canada &amp; finally if there are any institutions in the United state which offer NBDE on line courses?<br />
Thank`s a lot.</div>

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			<dc:creator>Kh17</dc:creator>
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			<title>AADSAS Extracurricular Question</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 02:13:51 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I volunteered for 2 summers at a camp for children with cancer. How do I put that in AADSAS?  
 
Under "Extracurricular / Volunteer / Community Service" I'd put in the total number of hours from those weeks at camp?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I volunteered for 2 summers at a camp for children with cancer. How do I put that in AADSAS? <br />
<br />
Under &quot;Extracurricular / Volunteer / Community Service&quot; I'd put in the total number of hours from those weeks at camp?</div>

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			<title>Chances of applying due to PAT</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 01:25:58 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hey there guys I know many of you are already in dental school and some have done quite a bit of research on getting in. I already know that I can't really change anything anymore since my AADSAS app is in and will be sent out in the next two weeks....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hey there guys I know many of you are already in dental school and some have done quite a bit of research on getting in. I already know that I can't really change anything anymore since my AADSAS app is in and will be sent out in the next two weeks. But I was just wondering what either dental students or those that are highly regarded on SDN think of my current position.<br />
<br />
BCP 3.67 GPA<br />
Science 3.53 <br />
Overall 3.8<br />
<br />
DAT AA 20 <br />
TS 21<br />
PAT 17<br />
<br />
URM-1st gen college student<br />
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I hope someone can give me some hopeful feedback! I applied to 15+ schools and have 1000+service hours<br />
<br />
thank you all for contributing to this great forum it's helped a lot.</div>

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			<title>Attention Waitlisted Applicants 2013 Cycle</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 01:13:06 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>By mid-June 2013, many applicants have already been accepted by at least one dental school. However, there are many applicants who are still waiting to be accepted off of multiple waitlists. These students are faced with the dilemma of deciding...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>By mid-June 2013, many applicants have already been accepted by at least one dental school. However, there are many applicants who are still waiting to be accepted off of multiple waitlists. These students are faced with the dilemma of deciding whether to apply again for 2014, or to wait it out for a positive response, hoping that any dental school will accept them.<br />
<br />
Reviewing past threads, it has been advised for such applicants to wait until July before reapplying and shelling out hundreds or even thousands of dollars in application fees. After monitoring this forum for the past month, however, waitlist movement has been slower than it has usually been observed in past years' threads. Certainly, the popularity of the dental profession has increased. Hence competition and the number of qualified dental school applicants has increased as well.<br />
<br />
It's agonizing to realize that waitlisted students such as me will be handpicked one by one by the ADCOMS, not knowing how this seemingly random process transpires, and thinking that we've been overlooked once again for a &quot;more qualified&quot; waitlister. And from my experience, &quot;more qualified&quot; does not necessarily mean better GPA or DAT score either; it actually means you are &quot;more local.&quot; In fact, I had spoken with an admissions director who had said that schools will give acceptances to students who are closer to the school because there is better chance of finding a match, especially at the end of the application cycle when schools are scrambling to fill their classes.<br />
<br />
Most of us assume that our luck is not good enough to actually believe that we will be the next in line for a shot at acceptance. Meanwhile, students who have been recently accepted off the waitlist will biasly chant the  &quot;don't give up, cause it happened to me&quot; speech; but realistically speaking, chances at this point are slim-to-none, 33% at best, if and only if a seat is open. If, however, the class is full... we can only hope that a specific chain of unpredictable events will take place, so that we can miraculously grab that last remaining seat.<br />
<br />
In the School Specific Discussions thread, recent posts have been made by new applicants already regarding the 2014 application cycle for the class of 2018. And with the exception of some schools, the official class of 2017 threads have been quiet, leaving us waitlisters in the dark as to what is going on. It surely seems like everyone else has moved on with their acceptances, but are kind enough to give us their pitying &quot;good luck&quot; speeches. <br />
<br />
Though, the truth is that nobody cares two sh*ts about us waitlisters 'cause they all got what they needed. And I don't blame them. It's the nature of the &quot;me versus you game&quot; we call life, and the reason why there is no such thing as a &quot;selfless gene.&quot;<br />
<br />
So waitlisters... I propose that we exploit each other while we still can. We can forget about each other later, but for now, we must band together and be resourceful.<br />
<br />
What can we do to alleviate our anxieties while we decide whether or not we should reapply? Maybe we should use this thread to post.....<br />
-at what schools we are placed on alternate status<br />
-at what schools we intend on attending as our number one<br />
-whether you are located in the same state as the school of interest<br />
-date of application and interview<br />
-what our GPA/DAT scores are for comparison<br />
-and plans for increasing chances for &quot;next year's&quot; cycle<br />
<br />
In the end, I'm sure doing this will not really matter; but it will give us a better understanding of the unpredictable shuffling of events that are about to unfold. Will we, or will we not be accepted? Who will go where, so I can go there?</div>

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			<title>Supplemental essay questions</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 01:04:29 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>So I am about to start my supplemental essay questions for upenn and was wondering how long they should be. Do the essays have to be as longs as personal statements? Those of you who have already completed these essays, how long were your essays? 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>So I am about to start my supplemental essay questions for upenn and was wondering how long they should be. Do the essays have to be as longs as personal statements? Those of you who have already completed these essays, how long were your essays?<br />
<br />
Thanks</div>

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			<title>2-year vs. 4-year courses</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 00:54:57 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi, I am taking my final year before entering dental school, hopefully, but have come across some financial constraints. I already have a bachelor's obtained in 2010, and am simply going back for the dental prereqs. Because of finances, I am...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi, I am taking my final year before entering dental school, hopefully, but have come across some financial constraints. I already have a bachelor's obtained in 2010, and am simply going back for the dental prereqs. Because of finances, I am seriously considering taking my last pre-requisite course (physics) at a two year college instead of at the four year university I've been attending. <br />
I have heard a few things regarding dental schools being picky with junior college credits, but is it a serious barrier to take one course at a community college, or do you think it won't make a difference to my applications? <br />
Any and all advice would really be appreciated, as I am trying to get through this whole process without any serious guidance.</div>

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			<title>Complicated Situation and need some helpful advice</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 00:48:14 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hello fellow SDN members! 
 
I am in a tough situation. I have a low cum GPA (less than 3.0 :scared:) but I have strong EC (3 research experiences, 1 academic enrichment program, shadowed ~150 hours, lots of volunteer and work experiences, etc). I...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hello fellow SDN members!<br />
<br />
I am in a tough situation. I have a low cum GPA (less than 3.0 :scared:) but I have strong EC (3 research experiences, 1 academic enrichment program, shadowed ~150 hours, lots of volunteer and work experiences, etc). I will also be taking the DAT the first week of July. <br />
<br />
My original plan was to apply this cycle for 2014 admissions but reading all these threads (including the under 3.0 GPA club), I probably shouldn't anymore because I would not be considered a competitive applicant at all and I think I would be wasting my $$$/time.<br />
<br />
However, in order to bring up my GPA, I was planning to take on another year of recommended upper level bio classes through open university while finishing up a couple pre-requisites for dental school: <br />
<br />
<u>Fall 2013</u><br />
Biochemistry<br />
Cell Biology<br />
Genetics<br />
Psychology (at a cc)<br />
<br />
<u>Spring 2014</u><br />
Evolutionary Biology<br />
Molecular Biology<br />
Cell &amp; Molecular Immunology<br />
Pharmacology (at a cc)<br />
<br />
Does this seem like a valid plan to improve my GPA? I know a lot of people have recommended post-bacc programs and special masters (which I have been looking into) but what about a 2-year dental hygiene program at the local community college? How would adcoms look at that?<br />
<br />
Or I was suggested by my older sister to sign up for dental assisting courses at the cc while finishing up last pre-requisites (biochemistry at a 4-year university &amp; psychology at a cc) for this upcoming fall semester. I wouldn't be able to take the most of the upper div biology courses though because it would conflict with the dental assisting courses. I don't have any licenses/certificates so maybe the 1-year dental assisting program is getting my foot into the door with more dental experiences for the future.<br />
<br />
Thanks for taking the time to read my long post. Any constructive and resourceful advice would be greatly appreciated :)</div>

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			<dc:creator>Black Diamond</dc:creator>
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			<title>Can someone look at my school list before I submit my application</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 00:36:01 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm a Texas resident.  
Re-applicant.  
3.8 GPA 3.7 sGPA. 
21AA 21TS 20PAT. 
 
Have around 200 hours for volunteering and shadowing each. I took 1 prereq class at a community college and I AP tested out of English Comp. Those 2 things kept me from...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I'm a Texas resident. <br />
Re-applicant. <br />
3.8 GPA 3.7 sGPA.<br />
21AA 21TS 20PAT.<br />
<br />
Have around 200 hours for volunteering and shadowing each. I took 1 prereq class at a community college and I AP tested out of English Comp. Those 2 things kept me from being able to apply to quite a few schools. Let me know if I forgot any schools that I'd have a good shot at or if there's any schools on my list that I'm wasting money on. Thanks! <br />
<br />
Houston<br />
San Antonio<br />
Baylor<br />
Midwestern Arizona<br />
USC<br />
Pacific<br />
UCONN<br />
LECOM<br />
Nova<br />
Iowa<br />
Louisville<br />
Buffalo<br />
Oklahoma<br />
Temple<br />
Pittsburgh<br />
Utah<br />
Roseman<br />
VCU<br />
Marquette</div>

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			<dc:creator>HSorathia92</dc:creator>
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			<title>What time to show up for Dat?</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 22:59:08 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>My exam time is 8am.  Should i show up at 8am or sooner?  I know there is an extensive check in process. Thanks.</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>My exam time is 8am.  Should i show up at 8am or sooner?  I know there is an extensive check in process. Thanks.</div>

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			<dc:creator>Walshy</dc:creator>
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			<title>Updating Grades on AADSAS</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:46:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>So I just received my spring grades and I already submitted my application. How do I upload my new grades onto the AADSAS application because right now they are still under classes in progress.</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>So I just received my spring grades and I already submitted my application. How do I upload my new grades onto the AADSAS application because right now they are still under classes in progress.</div>

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			<dc:creator>asne0407</dc:creator>
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			<title>Secondary Apps</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:32:22 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hello, 
 
I know certain schools have already provided secondary apps (via supplemental links on AADSAS) after submitting the AADSAS primary app.  But for the majority of schools that have not, how can I start their secondary? Does SDN have any...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hello,<br />
<br />
I know certain schools have already provided secondary apps (via supplemental links on AADSAS) after submitting the AADSAS primary app.  But for the majority of schools that have not, how can I start their secondary? Does SDN have any links or posts? Tried searching but couldn't find specifics.  Thank you for your help and time!</div>

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			<title>AZ. Dental schools. ( Public or Private?)</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:11:14 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Excuse my ignorance but I have a question about AZ dental schools.  I know of two dental schools in AZ- Midwestern and AT Still.  Are both of these public school or private.  My initial guess is they are both private.  So for my follow up question,...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Excuse my ignorance but I have a question about AZ dental schools.  I know of two dental schools in AZ- Midwestern and AT Still.  Are both of these public school or private.  My initial guess is they are both private.  So for my follow up question, if my prior assumption is true, do I have a higher likelihood for Out of state schools because I don't have a &quot;public&quot; dental school in my state? Thanks for your vast wisdom on this SDN!</div>

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			<dc:creator>RespectDent</dc:creator>
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			<title>*new* under 20aa club</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:44:53 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi everyone,  
I wanted to start a new under 20AA club for this years cycle. Post your stats, interviews, acceptances throughout the cycle. Here are my stats to get the ball rolling... 
 
oGPA: 3.5 
sGPA:3.5 
AA:18 
TS:18 
PAT:19 
gchem:18 
ochem:19</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi everyone, <br />
I wanted to start a new under 20AA club for this years cycle. Post your stats, interviews, acceptances throughout the cycle. Here are my stats to get the ball rolling...<br />
<br />
oGPA: 3.5<br />
sGPA:3.5<br />
AA:18<br />
TS:18<br />
PAT:19<br />
gchem:18<br />
ochem:19<br />
bio:18<br />
qr:18<br />
rc:19<br />
PAT:19<br />
<br />
CA resident...Applying to:<br />
UCSF, UOP, UCLA, Loma Linda, Western U, USC, Midwestern, AZ, COL, UNLV, OHSU, and WASH<br />
<br />
GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!!!!</div>

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			<dc:creator>asne0407</dc:creator>
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			<title>Chances? (constructive comments only please)</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 16:41:42 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hey SDN, 
 
i know there are a ton of threads like this but i just e-submitted my AADSAS and am freaking out about it.  
 
DAT: aa/ts/pat  
        20/20/21 
BCP/GPA: 2.97/3.25 
 
biology major, IL resident</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hey SDN,<br />
<br />
i know there are a ton of threads like this but i just e-submitted my AADSAS and am freaking out about it. <br />
<br />
DAT: aa/ts/pat <br />
        20/20/21<br />
BCP/GPA: 2.97/3.25<br />
<br />
biology major, IL resident<br />
<br />
any suggestions for where else to apply? <br />
<br />
so far i've only applied to the 3 IL schools because my gpa is so low. should i try for more schools, or wait for next year once my GPA is a little higher? <br />
<br />
thanks in advance!</div>

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			<dc:creator>NothinButDa2th</dc:creator>
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			<title>Umdnj gsbs</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 16:15:43 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hey guys. Is anyone here enrolling in the 2013 umdnj gsbs dental scholars program?? Or is anyone currently doing the program?</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hey guys. Is anyone here enrolling in the 2013 umdnj gsbs dental scholars program?? Or is anyone currently doing the program?</div>

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