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William Carey Osteopathic School
Hey SDN,
I was on my way to Jackson, MS today and decided to stop at William Carey University Hattiesburg campus. I have had my eye on this med school for quite some time ( at least since it opened :rolleyes: ) and asked for a tour. Since it was unscheduled, it was not very long at all but I did appreciate that the secretary of the Associate Dean took the time to give me one. Frankly, it probably would not have been any longer had it been scheduled; the Medical school is quite small, granted, I don't have anything to compare it to but it seemed small. Since class was in-session, I did not get to see all of the classrooms but I was able to see the clinical practice setting and study cubicles. The practice clinicals haven't even been touched due to the school only being in its 2nd year. All very nice and had a quality look to it but it also seemed quite mundane and bland. The campus is beautiful with an extremely laxed atmosphere and people seemed prepared to help one another but there is just this ALMOST boring atmosphere which unfortunetly seems to extend into the med school. According to my 'tour guide', there are 100 spots to be filled, I asked the number of applicants, expecting under 1K due to Mississippian preference, but I was WAY off...........2,000 people applied! I just really expected a lot less. Apparently they expect a 3.4 science gpa and a minimum 24 on the MCAT:eek: kinda blew my mind because I was under the impression that anything below a 26 was inadequate. Contrary to how this may be read, I am still content with this school and would love to be a med student here in a couple years. I just wanted to give you guys something to read and I figure some of you guys are interested in this school. If you have any questions, please feel free to post them or PM me. :) |
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How many new DO schools are opening? I haven't even heard of this one, criminey. I feel for the future students when they apply to residency. |
I am not sure of any others opening. There are only two Medical Schools in Mississippi. University of Mississippi Medical center in Jackson which has been around for quite some time and now, since 2009, William Carey School of Osteopathic Medicine.
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Glad to know that you have been in books and not on SDN that much. Please keep your feeling, as we do NOT need it!! We will be fine when it comes residency time |
After almost completing my first year at WCU-COM, I must say that I am completely happy and satisfied with the education that I have received at this point. We have a faculty that averages over 25 years of experience teaching in medical schools, including Harvard. We have clinicians who shut down their practice to join the faculty, including an orthopedic surgeon. They bring a wealth of clinical knowledge to the school. WCU-COM knows their students and cares about their performance. After a rough start in the first semester, I had numerous professors stop me in the hall and tell me how proud they were of me for making it through to the second semester. They have reached every COCA standard for accreditation as soon as they were eligible.
Out of 2000 applicants for this cycle, they may have sent out 400 secondary applications and interviewed about 200 for a class of 100. (The secondary & interview numbers are probably high.) They interview only 6 people per day. In short, they take their time and are deliberate. As far as size of the school, it was laid out differently than the other schools that I interviewed out but did not seem that much smaller, if at all. |
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Whatever helps you sleep at night. Obviously you are a bit clueless as to just how many medical schools have opened up recently and the stagnant growth of residency positions. But, whatever. |
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No, I am aware of how many are opening up, as well as, the upcoming "residency crunch" and I do share your concerns about it. I am also aware of the proposed cuts in funding of GME. However, this stagnant growth should affect the IMG's first before any US trained physicians. At least in Mississippi, where WCU is located, the state has committed in increasing the number of allopathic and osteopathic residency positions. I am sure other states are doing likewise. |
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I will be applying to this school for sure next June 1st.:xf: Sorry for the long post, sometimes when I see ignorance I just have a hard time letting it go. If you don't know any better, it's probably not so good to let that idea of yours out of your head. |
Unfortunately I believe residency spots are regulated and funded but the feds, not the states...
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That is my understanding also. My point was simply that "the sky is not falling". The Dean at WCU-COM made the comment that doctors are smart people and that we would find a way to work around whatever comes our way. I tend to believe him on this point. |
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That was pretty much the opinion of everyone who didn't go to RVUCOM Quote:
With that said.... the AOA and LCME know what they're doing. They're rapidly increasing the nuber of medical schools to favor american graduate. Eventually it will put pressure on everyone, but an overwhelming percent of the pressure will fall on IMGs. Expanding too quickly? Depends. Do you think every american grad deserves to be an orthopedist? Then yes. Do you think every american grad deserves to be a doctor? Then no, not actually expanding too fast, given the accrediting bodies are responding to one crisis by creating a new (presumably more managable, idk if I agree) crisis. |
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Wait, a pre-med is telling me about residency matching, what a good match entails, and then proceeds to tell me that I am ignorant?? Haa ah aha h ah ah ahha ha im sorry thats really freakin funny. Get back to your mcat studying. |
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Sylvanthus, why don't you work on presenting a coherent counter argument like Docespana? p.s., I just saw PNWUCOM's match list... 66.17% primary care. Lol buddy, you of all people shouldn't be saying RVUCOM's match sucks. LOL |
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When you state ridiculous crap like the above and use obvious logical fallacies, there is no point and I won't waste my time arguing with you. Good luck with the mcat. |
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Thaks for the luck on my upcoming MCAT. You need some good luck too with the match, considering that list I saw. |
My argument got called coherant. My life is complete.
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The problem is looking at percent primary care versus specialty or percent in ROADs tells you nothing if you had mostly primary care at community hospitals, that doesn't look too impressive, however if a school is designed to send people into that, then isn't it a success? What would matter more is how well they are trained at these residencies as well as whether students matched at their top choice, both of which are impossible to determine from a match list. WCU COM I imagine will mostly send students into primary care, but that is the entire raison d'etre for the school.
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I really don't like this whole looking down on PC, FM thing.. Don't go into it if you don't want to.. Why the constant need to put it down and laugh at it?
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At this point in our educational journey, I would say over 60% of my class and the first class will go into primary care by choice, myself included. However, there will be plenty going into non primary care residencies. This is normal for DO schools in general. |
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The people that down FM doctors have no idea what they're talking about. How much money a FM doctor makes depends on a lot of things. I know of several established FM doctors in my neighboring city that are making 300-400k for the record. So laugh at them while they run you over with their Porsche.
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Wow, you seriously have some reading comprehension problems. Where in the world did I say anything like the bolded above? Logical fallacies man, google it sometime. With that, I am done, this is seriously ridiculous. |
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If anyone has questions about WCU and would like answers from a student there, then I would be happy to answer any questions. I have 3 tests within the next week so my response time may not be the best, but I will answer as promptly as I can.
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hey if they can accept an rural student native to the area with a 24 mcat
Iam all for it! a 24-30 mcat means nothing...to me...in terms of the health care needs of specific area... the mcat is a joke..on all accounts it teachs nothing and tests nothing... |
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Makesense, thank u for trying to keep this thread on track. I will PM you this evening when I'm not restricted to my phone :-)
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I hope you are not serious! If so, then please do us all a favor and retake the MCAT. I am no expect on this but they say that MCAT scores are good indicators of how a person will do on the boards. |
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Commuting
I am very interested in William Carey... and by very I mean its pretty much the only school I am considering. My question is, do you think it would be crazy of me to commute from Mobile, AL to WCU everyday? Its only 1.5 hours but that ends up being 3 hours total. I am only considering commuting because we recently bought a house in Mobile and my wife has a great job here. If I were to commute I would hope the lectures are recorded so I can at least listen to them again as I drive. I am just curious if you all think I am crazy for wanting to commute.
Also, do you think I have a competitive chance with a GPA 3.6 and a MCAT of 30? I only recently (last year) decided I wanted to go into medicine instead of Emergency Management so I just don't know if I need to boost my GPA. Any help would be appreciated. |
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Several of my classmates are from Mobile and they all moved to Hattiesburg. With all the time you will be spending at school, then you do NOT want to deal with a daily 3 hour commute. The lectures are audiorecorded, not videorecorded. Hope this helps. There are several of my classmates, myself included, that came to med school solo. One, who live in New Orleans, go home at least every other weekend. If you have any questions, then you can pm me. |
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i used to think that docespana was a very knowledgable medical student, but now that he has ties with Lord Petyr Baelish....I'm not sure if I can trust the weasel :laugh:
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3.4 minimum science GPA? :( Guess I won't get into any osteopathic school then.
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