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CedarvillePharm 05-24-2012 10:08 PM

Things you wish you knew as a P1...
 
I'm a non-traditional student recently accepted to pharmacy school - I have a biology background, but have not gone through the typical pre-pharmacy curriculum. I'm a little nervous to attend, and am wondering if those of you who have survived the first year of pharmacy school could offer insight and advice to rising P1s. Were there things that surprised you or didn't meet your expectations? Things that you wish you would have done differently? Things that you wished you would have known upon entering your first year of pharmacy school?

Thanks!

bp2313 05-24-2012 10:22 PM

Through connections, I got notes from the P2's + notes from classmates + spending hours & hours to make study guides = a big waste of time. Your school might be different from mine, but I've found out the best way to study is staring at the powerpoints until you suck them all in. And btw, keep your grades to yourself.
Good luck :)

Notecard 05-25-2012 01:23 AM

I'm only a p2 now so don't have much to say in retrospect, but I found that it's not really like anyone said it would be. Some people will say pharmacy school is hard, some won't. Some will say to manage your time even better than in undergrad. It's different for everyone and they'll give you advice based on what they personally struggled with. You already know better than anyone what your weaknesses are. Start with those and take it from there.

Whatever the case may be, I think one piece of advice is pretty much universal. Go into it with an open mind. Take advantage of every opportunity even if you are very sure you want to be a community pharmacist or you want a residency ect. There are a lot of ways to be involved and to get experience in whatever part of the field that interests you. Might as well make the most of your time in school:thumbup:

WVUPharm2007 05-25-2012 01:43 AM

I was correct in assuming that 80% of pharmacy school was useless.

Pinser555 05-25-2012 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by WVUPharm2007 (Post 12563162)
I was correct in assuming that 80% of pharmacy school was useless.

I might even say 90%

pharmaguide 05-25-2012 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinser555 (Post 12563176)
I might even say 90%

Nah.... 95% ! :laugh:

crazybob 05-25-2012 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bp2313 (Post 12562843)
And btw, keep your grades to yourself.

This.

bacillus1 05-25-2012 07:28 AM

If you're at all interested in hospital, apply for a hospital job ASAP (preferrably summer before P1 if your state allows you to be an intern then) and keep applying constantly if you can't get one. Always follow up on your applications.

joetrisman 05-25-2012 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bacillus1 (Post 12563588)
If you're at all interested in hospital, apply for a hospital job ASAP (preferrably summer before P1 if your state allows you to be an intern then) and keep applying constantly if you can't get one. Always follow up on your applications.

This is huge. Beyond getting the opportunity to develop primary literature, getting an intern spot at a hospital is one of the major rarities during pharm school (in my experience).

gsRx 05-25-2012 09:41 AM

Hit on all the cute girls BEFORE they get boyfriends.

Its Z 05-25-2012 10:17 AM

If youre a desciple of SDN RX forum then you should already have the wisdom beyond P4.

rph3664 05-25-2012 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by pharmaguide (Post 12563231)
Nah.... 95% ! :laugh:

This.

95% of your knowledge is learned on the job.

rph3664 05-25-2012 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gsRx (Post 12563974)
Hit on all the cute girls BEFORE they get boyfriends.

What if the OP is something other than a straight man?

gsRx 05-25-2012 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rph3664 (Post 12564196)
What if the OP is something other than a straight man?

The title is things you (reader) wish you knew as a P1.

rxlea 05-25-2012 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rph3664 (Post 12564196)
What if the OP is something other than a straight man?

I'm proud of your statement :D

CedarvillePharm 05-25-2012 11:01 AM

I'm female, AND married. Double whammy!

CedarvillePharm 05-25-2012 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bacillus1 (Post 12563588)
If you're at all interested in hospital, apply for a hospital job ASAP (preferrably summer before P1 if your state allows you to be an intern then) and keep applying constantly if you can't get one. Always follow up on your applications.


Thank you for this piece of advice. I am interested in hospital, so I will keep that in mind! :thumbup:

Rx MPLS 05-25-2012 11:34 AM

Balance is everything. Find a happy medium for much of your life. Get involved, but don't let it interfere with school. You don't have to take every single opportunity offered in and outside of school (there will be many opportunities); just take the best ones and commit to those. Don't work too much if it gets in the way of your learning, but having a job is good.

Rx MPLS 05-25-2012 11:37 AM

I also completely agree with the poster who said to keep your grades to yourself. There is nothing more annoying than people who complain in front of others about getting A-s when the rest of the class barely passed an exam. Additionally, if you are at the low end of the spectrum, people might assume you aren't bright if you share your grades with them. Just be classy and keep that information private, like it should be.

Member 5149 05-25-2012 12:34 PM

If you're going to a state school, you're basically sheep. Go with the flow, and DON'T get on anybody's bad side, especially the faculty. It's all politics if you don't have anything lined up after graduation, and if you criticize the wrong person, well I quote my dean who didn't appreciate some comments; "If you want to practice in this state, don't be surprised if your employer doesn't hire you."

pharmaguide 05-26-2012 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Member 5149 (Post 12564647)
If you're going to a state school, you're basically sheep. Go with the flow, and DON'T get on anybody's bad side, especially the faculty. It's all politics if you don't have anything lined up after graduation, and if you criticize the wrong person, well I quote my dean who didn't appreciate some comments; "If you want to practice in this state, don't be surprised if your employer doesn't hire you."

Care to elaborate? :eek:

dreamofdental 05-26-2012 05:22 AM

Get to know the people in the P2 class and ask them to share their notes, study guides, old exam etc. Look for an internship earlier. I have a feeling this are going to be more scarce as pharmacy schools open in every corner. Find your happy medium between personal life and school.

Member 5149 05-26-2012 12:46 PM

I'd rather not go into details, but what I've noticed from my first year of pharmacy school is that state schools employ faculty that graduated the program when the requirements to get in we're not as competitive. Those that went into teaching knew they would be taking a pay cut, so there's no guarantee they were even the brightest in their class. Some of these individuals have ego issues and it makes me wonder if they did it just to get called Doctor. So today, when you get classes that are collectively more competitive and intelligent than the previous year, it becomes difficult to control the mass when they speak up about a faculty member's incompetence; which is why you see them using threats as a means to control the situation. It's pathetic and it makes me curious as to why over half the individuals we interviewed this year were much much older than our class. These are things I've seen at my school; it's how I've interpreted them and by no means reflect other programs

pharmaguide 05-26-2012 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Member 5149 (Post 12568428)
I'd rather not go into details, but what I've noticed from my first year of pharmacy school is that state schools employ faculty that graduated the program when the requirements to get in we're not as competitive. Those that went into teaching knew they would be taking a pay cut, so there's no guarantee they were even the brightest in their class. Some of these individuals have ego issues and it makes me wonder if they did it just to get called Doctor. So today, when you get classes that are collectively more competitive and intelligent than the previous year, it becomes difficult to control the mass when they speak up about a faculty member's incompetence; which is why you see them using threats as a means to control the situation. It's pathetic and it makes me curious as to why over half the individuals we interviewed this year were much much older than our class. These are things I've seen at my school; it's how I've interpreted them and by no means reflect other programs

Ah, I see. I do knot what you mean. When it comes to any professional programs and perhaps it's more indicative in intense science/professional healthcare fields, there's always a bit of ego. :thumbdown

rxlea 05-27-2012 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Member 5149 (Post 12568428)
I'd rather not go into details, but what I've noticed from my first year of pharmacy school is that state schools employ faculty that graduated the program when the requirements to get in we're not as competitive. Those that went into teaching knew they would be taking a pay cut, so there's no guarantee they were even the brightest in their class. Some of these individuals have ego issues and it makes me wonder if they did it just to get called Doctor. So today, when you get classes that are collectively more competitive and intelligent than the previous year, it becomes difficult to control the mass when they speak up about a faculty member's incompetence; which is why you see them using threats as a means to control the situation. It's pathetic and it makes me curious as to why over half the individuals we interviewed this year were much much older than our class. These are things I've seen at my school; it's how I've interpreted them and by no means reflect other programs

Sounds school specific. Most of our faculty are from somewhere else.


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