Originally Posted by aagman01
Regarding CE - I know several in a solid program right now. There funding is decent. However, a few things I would say (a) there are people who go directly from a masters in counseling into CE doctoral program (I know multiple folks) (b) none that I know were involved in extensive research (c) all of the folks I know or have heard about are completing qualitative based research. I don't want to knock that, but at the same time, it is not the same to me as the amount of knowledge and skill that is required for good quantitative research. And several of the CE folks have specifically said they went into CE in part because they "hate stats" (and one person who was open told me they questioned their competitiveness for a counseling psych program). I don't want to bash the CE area, but I really do wonder how CE are more qualified to teach masters level counselors than counseling psychs (and I'm not in a counseling psych program, but still wonder).
That is very interesting. While I absolutely understand the merits of quantitative research (and I do not hate stats), personally I'd prefer qualitative (and love philosophical psych, therefore I'm also considering Duquesne University's Clinical Psych as it is highly qualitative and philosophical - "human science" approach.)
Anyway that's my personal preference. So if what you say is true, (for me at least) one more plus point for CE.
As for (b) CE don't involve extensive research - I came across Penn State's CE (http://www.ed.psu.edu/educ/epcse/cou...elor-education
) and it looks like they focus on scholarly publication as well as other typical CE activities. I have no direct knowledge about this program though. If anyone of you know exactly what sort of research CE folks do, qualitative or quantitative, and how that distinguishes from Counseling Psych research, it would be immensely helpful to me.
I agree with your last point, and I think it's probably a turf war between CACREP and APA like some have pointed out.