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Member 443034 · 04-17-2012, 09:43 PM

Druggeeks post was closed in the NP/PA forum so it looks like he's going to troll elsewhere.

Look, I get where you guys are coming from nurses are NOT doctors. The education and training are just not there. However as a pre-med coming from a nursing background mid-levels are not bad clinicians contrary to what SDN says. I am sure some of you guys are MS1/2s, when you get around some attendings in the hospital you will not see this animosity that is so insidiously present on here. Random anecdotes presented as this NP messed up here or there happens with physicians as well. Anecdote for the day: Friend presented to ER with stabbing upper epigastric pain and a distended abdomen made worse by food and laying down. The ED doc ordered a IV morphine bolus, some fluids and told him all he needed was a bowel movement and sent him on his way. Turns out he got a second opinion a week later with another doc and tested positive for H.pylori and a scope confirmed gastritis and ulcers. Anecdotes, we all got em'

The military has some of the finest medicine in the US with premiere hospitals and physicians alike. CRNAs were pretty much pioneered in military hospitals and continue to provide a large portion of the anesthesia during surgeries. When I did my rotations/clinicals at.mil hospitals a lot of the docs (surgeons and anesthesiologists) sang praises for their CRNAs.

Just saying many here fear NPs and mid levels are taking over medicine is not true. If it was why would I be trying for med school and not NP school. Mid levels do have their place (under supervision_)whether you like it or not. Don't worry your 200k+ jobs will still be around when you graduate, no need to worry....

EDIT: The DNP doesn't add much clinical knowledge over the masters right now so there will need to be some serious overhaul for it to be considered a "clinical" doctorate. I am not completely for it until they add more relevant courses.

04-17-2012, 09:43 PM	#29
Member 443034 Senior Member Status: Pre-Medical Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: West Coast Posts: 109	Druggeeks post was closed in the NP/PA forum so it looks like he's going to troll elsewhere. Look, I get where you guys are coming from nurses are NOT doctors. The education and training are just not there. However as a pre-med coming from a nursing background mid-levels are not bad clinicians contrary to what SDN says. I am sure some of you guys are MS1/2s, when you get around some attendings in the hospital you will not see this animosity that is so insidiously present on here. Random anecdotes presented as this NP messed up here or there happens with physicians as well. Anecdote for the day: Friend presented to ER with stabbing upper epigastric pain and a distended abdomen made worse by food and laying down. The ED doc ordered a IV morphine bolus, some fluids and told him all he needed was a bowel movement and sent him on his way. Turns out he got a second opinion a week later with another doc and tested positive for H.pylori and a scope confirmed gastritis and ulcers. Anecdotes, we all got em' The military has some of the finest medicine in the US with premiere hospitals and physicians alike. CRNAs were pretty much pioneered in military hospitals and continue to provide a large portion of the anesthesia during surgeries. When I did my rotations/clinicals at.mil hospitals a lot of the docs (surgeons and anesthesiologists) sang praises for their CRNAs. Just saying many here fear NPs and mid levels are taking over medicine is not true. If it was why would I be trying for med school and not NP school. Mid levels do have their place (under supervision_)whether you like it or not. Don't worry your 200k+ jobs will still be around when you graduate, no need to worry.... EDIT: The DNP doesn't add much clinical knowledge over the masters right now so there will need to be some serious overhaul for it to be considered a "clinical" doctorate. I am not completely for it until they add more relevant courses. Last edited by Dranger; 04-17-2012 at 09:50 PM.