Originally Posted by Unchained
Let me simplify this. Freedom to breathe clean air trumps freedom to give others cancer. Your freedom ends when you swing your fist around and it hits someone else's nose. If you are performing a "freedom" which raises the overall cost of healthcare greatly and thus raises my insurance premiums then I think you should be sin taxed, pay higher insurance premiums and be coerced into quitting said activity. You are still free to smoke in your own home if you so choose. I can't tell you how many patients I have had walk into my pharmacy tired of the cost of cigarettes, the new restrictions and the higher premiums they have paid and decided to quit with the assistance of Chantix and Nicoderm CQ. This is a net positive for everyone.
Your "freedom" argument makes absolutely no sense at all and still ignores property rights. You still have the freedom to breathe clean air -- smokers in one public establishment are hardly going to destroy the atmosphere to the point that you can't breathe clean air at an establishment that chooses
to be a non-smoking establishment. YOU can be the one to move your own nose somewhere away from the smoke if it bothers you -- let the market work. You and/or any government agency for that matter have absolutely no right to infringe on another's freedom -- and the flipside is they should have absolutely no right to insurance at a rate that is not actuarially fair for their chosen behavior in relation to those who choose not to engage in that behavior.
If you don't care about liberty and the Constitution and true freedom and all the other stuff that made our country great and differentiated from the rest of the globe -- you can look at it pragmatically this way -- more narcotics and more patients smoking means more prescriptions and more pharmacist jobs,
which just happens to be the most important point here!